Should be played in Newbridge and hard luck on all those Mayo supporters.
We know it won't though because of €€€€€€€€€€
Funny thing is, even though the majority of Mayo supporters will miss out you couldn't see them kicking up a fuss if it was played in Newbridge.
It would be a bigger ticket frenzy than the All-Ireland, imagine the hype.
What's the capacity of Newbridge?
What are you on about Dinny? Where will it be played?
I enjoyed my trip to Newbridge this year, unlike four years ago when Kevin Keane dropped one in.
I'd be worried about Kildare, ye have Mayos kryptonite, a big lad in full forward that can score goals. Luckily you don't have our secondary kryptonite, 15 lads behind the ball
My guess would be it'll be on telly and so it'll be Saturday evening
Handy one for Mayo. All the Kildare boys will be at the Derby.
A right tough one for Mayo, SOS gone and our backs all over the place, throw in the heat with a lot of fellas over 30, the persistence with Cafferkey and Coen and you've a recipe for calamity.
Capacity for Newbridge is set for approx 8k. Kildare have tried to get H&S to push this out to 10K with little success.
Mayo would bring 10K on their own.
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
As DH said the Derby is on late Saturday afternoon.
Newbridge for the football, Kildare Town for the craic afterwards, would be a great Saturday evening.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
Capacity for Newbridge is set for approx 8k. Kildare have tried to get H&S to push this out to 10K with little success.
Mayo would bring 10K on their own.
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
As DH said the Derby is on late Saturday afternoon.
Newbridge for the football, Kildare Town for the craic afterwards, would be a great Saturday evening.
Are you serious?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:32:04 AM
Should be played in Newbridge and hard luck on all those Mayo supporters.
We know it won't though because of €€€€€€€€€€
Funny thing is, even though the majority of Mayo supporters will miss out you couldn't see them kicking up a fuss if it was played in Newbridge.
It would be a bigger ticket frenzy than the All-Ireland, imagine the hype.
Is the capacity not about 8K or 9K, which should be enough? I know we bring about 9K to matches but in other sports if you are the away crowd it is tough luck and the atmoshpere would be hopping in Newbridge for the match!! I had a great time watching a league game there in 2014 then down to a great pub Dinny recommended to watch Ireland beat Scotand in the six nations!!
It would be a pain in the bollix with traffic. Not sure I've ever been to a match in Tullamore
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
Capacity for Newbridge is set for approx 8k. Kildare have tried to get H&S to push this out to 10K with little success.
Mayo would bring 10K on their own.
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
As DH said the Derby is on late Saturday afternoon.
Newbridge for the football, Kildare Town for the craic afterwards, would be a great Saturday evening.
Are you serious?
Unless they have had a spine transplant, watch how it plays out, Kildare will be incentivised to move it, probably behind close doors. The only thing the KCB care about is €€€€. Remember the Limerick game a few years ago.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 09:51:47 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:32:04 AM
Should be played in Newbridge and hard luck on all those Mayo supporters.
We know it won't though because of €€€€€€€€€€
Funny thing is, even though the majority of Mayo supporters will miss out you couldn't see them kicking up a fuss if it was played in Newbridge.
It would be a bigger ticket frenzy than the All-Ireland, imagine the hype.
Is the capacity not about 8K or 9K, which should be enough? I know we bring about 9K to matches but in other sports if you are the away crowd it is tough luck and the atmoshpere would be hopping in Newbridge for the match!! I had a great time watching a league game there in 2014 then down to a great pub Dinny recommended to watch Ireland beat Scotand in the six nations!!
How many season ticket holders are there though? More than 8/9k between both counties anyway. Season ticket holders are 'guaranteed' tickets to their counties matches, so I'd say it will have to be moved on those grounds (pardon the pun) alone.
This has Kildare ambush written all over it.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
It would be a pain in the bollix with traffic. Not sure I've ever been to a match in Tullamore
Best little stadium in the country.
QuoteHow many season ticket holders are there though?
We have 4k they have 3k
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:53:55 AM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
Capacity for Newbridge is set for approx 8k. Kildare have tried to get H&S to push this out to 10K with little success.
Mayo would bring 10K on their own.
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
As DH said the Derby is on late Saturday afternoon.
Newbridge for the football, Kildare Town for the craic afterwards, would be a great Saturday evening.
Are you serious?
Unless they have had a spine transplant, watch how it plays out, Kildare will be incentivised to move it, probably behind close doors. The only thing the KCB care about is €€€€. Remember the Limerick game a few years ago.
They should be ashamed if they agree to move it.
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 09:57:03 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:53:55 AM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
Capacity for Newbridge is set for approx 8k. Kildare have tried to get H&S to push this out to 10K with little success.
Mayo would bring 10K on their own.
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
As DH said the Derby is on late Saturday afternoon.
Newbridge for the football, Kildare Town for the craic afterwards, would be a great Saturday evening.
Are you serious?
Unless they have had a spine transplant, watch how it plays out, Kildare will be incentivised to move it, probably behind close doors. The only thing the KCB care about is €€€€. Remember the Limerick game a few years ago.
They should be ashamed if they agree to move it.
They need to show some balls like Roscommon.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
It would be a pain in the bollix with traffic. Not sure I've ever been to a match in Tullamore
You didn't attend the All Ireland U21 semi final in 2016 or All Ireland minor quarter final 2013 there? Kildare were already beaten in Tullamore this year by Carlow and will hardly be in a hurry to go back to that venue?
Who did we play in the U-21 semi?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 10:03:05 AM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 09:57:03 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:53:55 AM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
Capacity for Newbridge is set for approx 8k. Kildare have tried to get H&S to push this out to 10K with little success.
Mayo would bring 10K on their own.
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
As DH said the Derby is on late Saturday afternoon.
Newbridge for the football, Kildare Town for the craic afterwards, would be a great Saturday evening.
Are you serious?
Unless they have had a spine transplant, watch how it plays out, Kildare will be incentivised to move it, probably behind close doors. The only thing the KCB care about is €€€€. Remember the Limerick game a few years ago.
They should be ashamed if they agree to move it.
They need to show some balls like Roscommon.
Tullamore it is so.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 25, 2018, 10:09:00 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
It would be a pain in the bollix with traffic. Not sure I've ever been to a match in Tullamore
You didn't attend the All Ireland U21 semi final in 2016 or All Ireland minor quarter final 2013 there? Kildare were already beaten in Tullamore this year by Carlow and will hardly be in a hurry to go back to that venue?
That was an anomaly, our record in Tullamore is decent enough in recent years, including two good wins last years against Laois and Meath.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 10:12:04 AM
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
It would be a pain in the bollix with traffic. Not sure I've ever been to a match in Tullamore
You didn't attend the All Ireland U21 semi final in 2016 or All Ireland minor quarter final 2013 there? Kildare were already beaten in Tullamore this year by Carlow and will hardly be in a hurry to go back to that venue?
That was an anomaly, our record in Tullamore is decent enough in recent years, including two good wins last years against Laois and Meath.
:o
Kildare played Tyrone there in 2013 didn't they? Wasn't there pressure on the CB to move that qualifier to a bigger venue and they didn't. If all the season ticket holders can be accomodated then it should be in Newbridge in my opinion.
Spineless from kildare CB if they allow this to be moved
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 10:11:07 AM
Who did we play in the U-21 semi?
Dublin-DOC won it on his own that day
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 25, 2018, 10:18:18 AM
Spineless from kildare CB if they allow this to be moved
Have you been to Newbridge? ???
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 25, 2018, 10:18:18 AM
Spineless from kildare CB if they allow this to be moved
I presume the 4Cs will fix it and KCB can lump it.
it would be a mad decision to play it in newbridge . Mayo could easily bring 10-12 K on there own and thrown in a good crowd for kildare too on a hot day ive seen much smaller games played in Croke park .
poty there isn't another leinster team to share a double header,
Leitrim monaghan maybe? would eaily have 30K 35K
though newbridge is after tullamore about the closet thing to a home game as I could get
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 10:11:07 AM
Who did we play in the U-21 semi?
Dublin. I take it you have no interest in underage games so.
Should be in newbridge.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 25, 2018, 11:00:39 AM
Should be in newbridge.
I agree but they've already set the tone with moving Dublin's games the last few years.
Dublin get treated differently to everyone else. That's also the Leinster Council.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 25, 2018, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 25, 2018, 11:00:39 AM
Should be in newbridge.
I agree but they've already set the tone with moving Dublin's games the last few years.
This has nothing to do with the match next weekend.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Dry your tears. You sound like a Dublin supporter.
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Uh, this is a round three qualifier between two sides who were dumped out of their provinces at the quarter-final stage..
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Uh, this is a round three qualifier between two sides who were dumped out of their provinces at the quarter-final stage..
What and that entitles everyone to a ticket ::)
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Uh, this is a round three qualifier between two sides who were dumped out of their provinces at the quarter-final stage..
Yes one in which Kildare were drawn out first. Hence home advantage.
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Yes but it can't be played in a bigger stadium - that's the biggest there is.
This is the exact sort of game that should be played at a home venue, ie. Newbridge.
Playing it at a home venue by definition makes it a big event - it creates the narrative - Mayo going into the bear pit of Newbridge on a hot Saturday evening - it makes it a sell-out with a smashing atmosphere, it makes more people want tickets because they know it will be a sell-out with a smashing atmosphere, it creates a buzz in the media, it makes it a game that everybody wants to see.
Same as Wicklow v Dublin would have been had it been in Aughrim.
By moving it to Portlaoise or Tullamore, it becomes just another qualifier, it won't sell-out, and there isn't the same narrative or general interest.
Quote from: sid waddell on June 25, 2018, 12:11:09 PM
This is the exact sort of game that should be played at a home venue, ie. Newbridge.
Playing it at a home venue by definition makes it a big event - it creates the narrative - Mayo going into the bear pit of Newbridge on a hot Saturday evening - it makes it a sell-out with a smashing atmosphere, it makes more people want tickets because they know it will be a sell-out with a smashing atmosphere, it creates a buzz in the media, it makes it a game that everybody wants to see.
Same as Wicklow v Dublin would have been had it been in Aughrim.
By moving it to Portlaoise or Tullamore, it becomes just another qualifier, it won't sell-out, and there isn't the same narrative or general interest.
Well said Sid, make the game bigger than it is, not smaller...
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 12:04:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Uh, this is a round three qualifier between two sides who were dumped out of their provinces at the quarter-final stage..
Yes one in which Kildare were drawn out first. Hence home advantage.
You don't get home advantage if your home ground isn't adequate to host the game..
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Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Uh, this is a round three qualifier between two sides who were dumped out of their provinces at the quarter-final stage..
Yes one in which Kildare were drawn out first. Hence home advantage.
You don't get home advantage if your home ground isn't adequate to host the game..
Of course it's adequate. It has a limited capacity, same as Hyde Park for the Connacht final. It's not rocket science.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 12:15:09 PM
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Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Uh, this is a round three qualifier between two sides who were dumped out of their provinces at the quarter-final stage..
Yes one in which Kildare were drawn out first. Hence home advantage.
You don't get home advantage if your home ground isn't adequate to host the game..
You really don't understand irony do you?
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 12:15:09 PM
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Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Uh, this is a round three qualifier between two sides who were dumped out of their provinces at the quarter-final stage..
Yes one in which Kildare were drawn out first. Hence home advantage.
You don't get home advantage if your home ground isn't adequate to host the game..
Who said it's not adequate?
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Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Yes but it can't be played in a bigger stadium - that's the biggest there is.
So should we play the Munster Hurling final in Croke Park as I'm sure it'll be a sell-out?
Kildare seem to have found a bit of form by digging out two good wins on the road against Derry & Longford. We could struggle against their midfield with Parsons and Seami O'Shea out for the season and we really only have Aidan, D O'Connor and Kirby as recognised midfielders fit at the moment.Coen or Keegan can fill in but neither are out and out midfielders! Our fullback line was poor at times against Tipp's big men inside so Kildare should look for some joy with direct ball in there. James Durcan and the form of Doherty & McLouglin will cause Kildare a goof few problems too so this might turn into a bit of a shoot out with a couple of points either way bound to decide this game! At this stage I would bite your hand off if offered a scrappy one point win with no suspensions or injuries!!!
Newbridge is a tight enough pitch but I don't think Kildare are too comfortable playing a very defensive gameplan and the talent they have is better with three or four left in the forwards but O'Neill knows us well and might deploy a Tyrone type counter attack game!!
I wonder is Jason Gibbons back in with the squad at the moment?
Mayo heading to the super 8
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 12:22:31 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Why would Kildare care about any of that?
They're trying to win the game.
so every one who wants to see the game can go,
Maybe generate a bit of cash so people don't have to pay to sit in an unsafe dump, !st person in the ground will have a shit view
Not everyone who wants to go to an All Ireland gets a ticket.
Yes but it can't be played in a bigger stadium - that's the biggest there is.
So should we play the Munster Hurling final in Croke Park as I'm sure it'll be a sell-out?
You mean like the Ulster Final was for a few years?
I'm playing devil's advocate to a certain extent - in general, I don't agree with counties being forced to give up home advantage, but Newbridge capacity possibly won't even accommodate all the season ticket holder's, so that's a big problem.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
Kildare seem to have found a bit of form by digging out two good wins on the road against Derry & Longford. We could struggle against their midfield with Parsons and Seami O'Shea out for the season and we really only have Aidan, D O'Connor and Kirby as recognised midfielders fit at the moment.Coen or Keegan can fill in but neither are out and out midfielders! Our fullback line was poor at times against Tipp's big men inside so Kildare should look for some joy with direct ball in there. James Durcan and the form of Doherty & McLouglin will cause Kildare a goof few problems too so this might turn into a bit of a shoot out with a couple of points either way bound to decide this game! At this stage I would bite your hand off if offered a scrappy one point win with no suspensions or injuries!!!
Newbridge is a tight enough pitch but I don't think Kildare are too comfortable playing a very defensive gameplan and the talent they have is better with three or four left in the forwards but O'Neill knows us well and might deploy a Tyrone type counter attack game!!
I wonder is Jason Gibbons back in with the squad at the moment?
Kildare long ball into FF line caused our FB line a lot of problem's in the first half of the league game this year. They should have got more from that tactic, but woeful shooting and some good Clarke saves helped us. I have no doubt they'll be trying the same thing again this weekend.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
Kildare seem to have found a bit of form by digging out two good wins on the road against Derry & Longford. We could struggle against their midfield with Parsons and Seami O'Shea out for the season and we really only have Aidan, D O'Connor and Kirby as recognised midfielders fit at the moment.Coen or Keegan can fill in but neither are out and out midfielders! Our fullback line was poor at times against Tipp's big men inside so Kildare should look for some joy with direct ball in there. James Durcan and the form of Doherty & McLouglin will cause Kildare a goof few problems too so this might turn into a bit of a shoot out with a couple of points either way bound to decide this game! At this stage I would bite your hand off if offered a scrappy one point win with no suspensions or injuries!!!
Newbridge is a tight enough pitch but I don't think Kildare are too comfortable playing a very defensive gameplan and the talent they have is better with three or four left in the forwards but O'Neill knows us well and might deploy a Tyrone type counter attack game!!
I wonder is Jason Gibbons back in with the squad at the moment?
Kildare long ball into FF line caused our FB line a lot of problem's in the first half of the league game this year. They should have got more from that tactic, but woeful shooting and some good Clarke saves helped us. I have no doubt they'll be trying the same thing again this weekend.
I thought Kildare were well in that game that day but seemed to fall away after O'Shea's goal. Their confidence was at an all time low then but they should be alot more confident now with momentum of two away qualifier wins in the bank! We did look very sharp and ruthless after James Durcan's lucky goal which should have us feeling better going into the game this weekend.
mayogaablog saying rumours of a double header in Croker on Sat:
Cavan v Tyrone 5pm
Kildare v Mayo 7pm
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 12:59:24 PM
mayogaablog saying rumours of a double header in Croker on Sat:
Cavan v Tyrone 5pm
Kildare v Mayo 7pm
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 12:59:24 PM
mayogaablog saying rumours of a double header in Croker on Sat:
Cavan v Tyrone 5pm
Kildare v Mayo 7pm
Ah f**k off
Will be in Croker, if on the Television. Does it give the excuse to charge more for two games?
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
Kildare seem to have found a bit of form by digging out two good wins on the road against Derry & Longford. We could struggle against their midfield with Parsons and Seami O'Shea out for the season and we really only have Aidan, D O'Connor and Kirby as recognised midfielders fit at the moment.Coen or Keegan can fill in but neither are out and out midfielders! Our fullback line was poor at times against Tipp's big men inside so Kildare should look for some joy with direct ball in there. James Durcan and the form of Doherty & McLouglin will cause Kildare a goof few problems too so this might turn into a bit of a shoot out with a couple of points either way bound to decide this game! At this stage I would bite your hand off if offered a scrappy one point win with no suspensions or injuries!!!
Newbridge is a tight enough pitch but I don't think Kildare are too comfortable playing a very defensive gameplan and the talent they have is better with three or four left in the forwards but O'Neill knows us well and might deploy a Tyrone type counter attack game!!
I wonder is Jason Gibbons back in with the squad at the moment?
Kildare kept 3 sometimes 4 up against Longford, one of our problems is the two Cribben's who generally form the first line in defence can't tackle a wet paper bag. Good going forward, awful in defence. I studied very closely on Sat evening. They just bite in and are easily stepped aside, it's one of the reasons when teams run at us we are in trouble. They just need to go soft and keep the goal side of the ball.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 12:59:24 PM
mayogaablog saying rumours of a double header in Croker on Sat:
Cavan v Tyrone 5pm
Kildare v Mayo 7pm
Willie Joe might actually go to that one.
Connacht Telegraph are reporting it's in Croke Park at 7pm.
Don't think either fans wanted that but it will make things easier for Sky.
Quote from: MayoBuck on June 25, 2018, 01:19:22 PM
Connacht Telegraph are reporting it's in Croke Park at 7pm.
Don't think either fans wanted that but it will make things easier for Sky.
There will be a revolution in Kildare if this comes to pass...
FFS
Wherever it is, it can't be in Newbridge.
Revised capacity is just 6,200
That is not enough to cater even for just season ticket holders.
Quote from: MayoBuck on June 25, 2018, 01:19:22 PM
Connacht Telegraph are reporting it's in Croke Park at 7pm.
Don't think either fans wanted that but it will make things easier for Sky.
Fans not considered anymore. TV cameras and are already in Croke Park. Time is more convenient for the TV Fan or Casual TV observer.
This is the reason I abandoned my season ticket.
Quote from: blast05 on June 25, 2018, 01:28:10 PM
Wherever it is, it can't be in Newbridge.
Revised capacity is just 6,200
That is not enough to cater even for just season ticket holders.
Kildare don't have many season ticket holders, more than enough to accommodate Mayo's and plenty left over for the Kildare clubs.
It's on in Croker 7 Saturday.
Confirmed by Mayo GAA.
That's a disgrace. Tail wagging the dog way too often these days.
Very, very poor from the GAA on this, surely if Kildare couldn't host they should at least have the option of naming the alternative venue? I can't imagine they would opt for Croke Park if they had the choice. Cavan are in a likewise situation.
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
That is an absolute f*cking disgrace from the KCB and the GAA. No sense of fairness, they won't get another cent of me for the inter-county game. KCB need to f**king resign, spineless wankers.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 25, 2018, 01:39:08 PM
Very, very poor from the GAA on this, surely if Kildare couldn't host they should at least have the option of naming the alternative venue? I can't imagine they would opt for Croke Park if they had the choice. Cavan are in a likewise situation.
Tullamore would be the obvious compromise.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
Yep, poor form. I don't think Newbridge was a runner really, but KCB should have dug their heels in and at least got their next preference.
Atmosphere will be shite in a 60% empty Croke Park - suits Sky and HQ, but nobody else.
No home match in the Leinster Championship for 23 years (and counting) and now can't even play at home in the back door. >:(
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
Hyde can accommodate 28,000 , restricted by Licansonhis to 18,870.
Newbridge about 12 and seemingly 6k.
Just because Syf is a gobdaw don't lose all sense of reality.
I presume KCB still in hock to HQ?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
If ever there was a time for everyone's favourite Kildare arsehole to make some noise it's now. Ewan now is your opportunity and surely Athy's Ger Gilroy and Celbridge's Joe Molloy will give him plenty of airtime.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
I'd say Kildare would have nearly preferred it in Castlebar than CP.
That's shite on Kildare.
They get drawn first and end up with worst possible scenario
So what if 6k tickets would sell out in 10mins.
It would be on TV and anyone who wanted to see it could see it.
Kildare would have been better off if Mayo came out 1st as Mayo's record in Croker recently is better than in Castlebar
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:49:10 PM
If ever there was a time for everyone's favourite Kildare arsehole to make some noise it's now. Ewan now is your opportunity and surely Athy's Ger Gilroy and Celbridge's Joe Molloy will give him plenty of airtime.
Get up on the roof and turn on the Ewan signal, Dinny!
Because he's the hero Kildare deserves, but not the one it needs right now, so we'll hunt him.
Because he can take it, because he's not a hero.
He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 25, 2018, 01:49:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
I'd say Kildare would have nearly preferred it in Castlebar than CP.
Ironically, Mayo wouldn't. We've a shocking home record.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:49:10 PM
If ever there was a time for everyone's favourite Kildare arsehole to make some noise it's now. Ewan now is your opportunity and surely Athy's Ger Gilroy and Celbridge's Joe Molloy will give him plenty of airtime.
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have not agreed to moving it.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 01:52:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:49:10 PM
If ever there was a time for everyone's favourite Kildare arsehole to make some noise it's now. Ewan now is your opportunity and surely Athy's Ger Gilroy and Celbridge's Joe Molloy will give him plenty of airtime.
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have not agreed to moving it.
Knowing the KCB that sounds like optics.
Would have thought the home team gets to nominate the alternative venue.
There is a precedent already.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.
There's not much of a height to fall from when you're right.
The Hyde hosted a senior provincial final eight days ago, by the way, and four of the last seven Connacht finals. When's the last one Kildare hosted? You seem irrationally angry about this as if it's a total injustice - the reality is Kildare's planning and reliance on Croke Park as a home venue for years is at the root of this decision.
If the likes of Roscommon or Cavan or Monaghan with tiny populations can have grounds capable of hosting 20k crowds what excuse does one of the richest regions in Ireland have for having a glorified club ground as its home?
Kildare basically made the bet that their money was better spent elsewhere, well this is the downside of that decision.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 01:52:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:49:10 PM
If ever there was a time for everyone's favourite Kildare arsehole to make some noise it's now. Ewan now is your opportunity and surely Athy's Ger Gilroy and Celbridge's Joe Molloy will give him plenty of airtime.
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have not agreed to moving it.
Knowing the KCB that sounds like optics.
Perhaps but where does that leave Cavan? Was the decision made for them by CP, if so it's possible Kildare were told how it was going to be also. Won't be 30k at it and you'll probably be able to hear the players on the field.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
Hyde can accommodate 28,000 , restricted by Licansonhis to 18,870.
Newbridge about 12 and seemingly 6k.
Just because Syf is a gobdaw don't lose all sense of reality.
I presume KCB still in hock to HQ?
Those capacity reductions are just ridiculous though, cutting so many venues down unnecessarily. Conveniently so on occasions like this.
I don't know. I think the Kildare lads will prefer Croke Park. They did alright against the Dubs last year and were a goal miss away early in the 2 nd half to really putting pressure on them.
Hot day will suit the young Kildare team.
With our midfield gone and now a gripe to drive Kildare I think we are there for the taking.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.
There's not much of a height to fall from when you're right.
It hosted a senior provincial final eight days ago. When's the last one Kildare hosted? You seem irrationally angry about this as if it's a total injustice - the reality is Kildare's planning and reliance on Croke Park as a home venue for years is at the root of this decision.
If the likes of Roscommon or Cavan or Monaghan with tiny populations can have grounds capable of hosting 20k crowds what excuse does one of the richest regions in Ireland have for having a glorified club ground as its home?
Kildare basically made the bet that their money was better spent elsewhere, well this is the downside of that decision.
f**k off! Even in England non-league sides get to play in their small grounds against the EPL giants, that is fairness, that is what sport is suppose to be. Can you not get your head around that?
Quote from: highorlow on June 25, 2018, 01:59:24 PM
I think the Kildare lads will prefer Croke Park.
They won't. They have only beaten Offaly, Louth and Wexford in Croke Park since 2012. Shipped some miserable defeats there in recent years.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 02:01:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.
There's not much of a height to fall from when you're right.
It hosted a senior provincial final eight days ago. When's the last one Kildare hosted? You seem irrationally angry about this as if it's a total injustice - the reality is Kildare's planning and reliance on Croke Park as a home venue for years is at the root of this decision.
If the likes of Roscommon or Cavan or Monaghan with tiny populations can have grounds capable of hosting 20k crowds what excuse does one of the richest regions in Ireland have for having a glorified club ground as its home?
Kildare basically made the bet that their money was better spent elsewhere, well this is the downside of that decision.
f**k off! Even in England non-league sides get to play in their small grounds against the EPL giants, that is fairness, that is what sport is suppose to be. Can you not get your head around that?
There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches like this one? I can only imagine the court cases if the GAA tried to pull that one.
If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.
There's not much of a height to fall from when you're right.
The Hyde hosted a senior provincial final eight days ago, by the way, and four of the last seven Connacht finals. When's the last one Kildare hosted? You seem irrationally angry about this as if it's a total injustice - the reality is Kildare's planning and reliance on Croke Park as a home venue for years is at the root of this decision.
If the likes of Roscommon or Cavan or Monaghan with tiny populations can have grounds capable of hosting 20k crowds what excuse does one of the richest regions in Ireland have for having a glorified club ground as its home?
Kildare basically made the bet that their money was better spent elsewhere, well this is the downside of that decision.
Do you have an opinion on everything yea?
I suppose we could have bought a bus instead. But we're not that thick.
Competition has zero integrity. Time to stop forking out money to watch it, will be cancelling Gaa Go subscription.
Ah this is bolloxology.
Kildare should have the choice where to play it. But have they a voice at HQ? Are they still in the GAA equivalent of the IMF?
Jazses Syferus - is there any thread safe from you?
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 02:01:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.
There's not much of a height to fall from when you're right.
It hosted a senior provincial final eight days ago. When's the last one Kildare hosted? You seem irrationally angry about this as if it's a total injustice - the reality is Kildare's planning and reliance on Croke Park as a home venue for years is at the root of this decision.
If the likes of Roscommon or Cavan or Monaghan with tiny populations can have grounds capable of hosting 20k crowds what excuse does one of the richest regions in Ireland have for having a glorified club ground as its home?
Kildare basically made the bet that their money was better spent elsewhere, well this is the downside of that decision.
f**k off! Even in England non-league sides get to play in their small grounds against the EPL giants, that is fairness, that is what sport is suppose to be. Can you not get your head around that?
There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches?
If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.
Wrong!
Will be interesting to see what Sky, eh, I mean the GAA eventually decide to do.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 02:07:28 PM
Ah this is bolloxology.
Kildare should have the choice where to play it. But have they a voice at HQ? Are they still in the GAA equivalent of the IMF?
Jazses Syferus - is there any thread safe from you?
yes, the Connacht Final thread
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 02:01:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.
There's not much of a height to fall from when you're right.
It hosted a senior provincial final eight days ago. When's the last one Kildare hosted? You seem irrationally angry about this as if it's a total injustice - the reality is Kildare's planning and reliance on Croke Park as a home venue for years is at the root of this decision.
If the likes of Roscommon or Cavan or Monaghan with tiny populations can have grounds capable of hosting 20k crowds what excuse does one of the richest regions in Ireland have for having a glorified club ground as its home?
Kildare basically made the bet that their money was better spent elsewhere, well this is the downside of that decision.
f**k off! Even in England non-league sides get to play in their small grounds against the EPL giants, that is fairness, that is what sport is suppose to be. Can you not get your head around that?
There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches?
If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.
I'll bite so.
The ground is certified for over 10,000. That ridiculous 6,000 restriction was lifted after remedial works (new crush barriers on the Barracks Terrace & improvements to the access points) about four years ago. There are not over 10,000 season ticket holders to be accommodated between both counties.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 25, 2018, 02:11:17 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 02:07:28 PM
Ah this is bolloxology.
Kildare should have the choice where to play it. But have they a voice at HQ? Are they still in the GAA equivalent of the IMF?
Jazses Syferus - is there any thread safe from you?
yes, the Connacht Final thread
:) :) 8)
Quote from: JoG2 on June 25, 2018, 02:11:17 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 02:07:28 PM
Ah this is bolloxology.
Kildare should have the choice where to play it. But have they a voice at HQ? Are they still in the GAA equivalent of the IMF?
Jazses Syferus - is there any thread safe from you?
yes, the Connacht Final thread
Boom. ;D
Quote from: highorlow on June 25, 2018, 01:59:24 PM
I don't know. I think the Kildare lads will prefer Croke Park. They did alright against the Dubs last year and were a goal miss away early in the 2 nd half to really putting pressure on them.
Hot day will suit the young Kildare team.
With our midfield gone and now a gripe to drive Kildare I think we are there for the taking.
You speak purely in jest I assume? Kildare have been royally screwed here, how much that is down to the ineptitude of their own CB or the bean counters in HQ I really don't know either way.
By the accounts that I've read today, Newbridge could have accommodated all season ticket holders of both counties with about two thousand tickets to spare (if 6k capacity, even more if it could take 10k), just give those 2k out to the Kildare clubs for allocation and be done with it. The legion of Mayo fans that can't get in? Tough.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:51:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:49:10 PM
If ever there was a time for everyone's favourite Kildare arsehole to make some noise it's now. Ewan now is your opportunity and surely Athy's Ger Gilroy and Celbridge's Joe Molloy will give him plenty of airtime.
Get up on the roof and turn on the Ewan signal, Dinny!
Because he's the hero Kildare deserves, but not the one it needs right now, so we'll hunt him.
Because he can take it, because he's not a hero.
He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight.
He's awoken from his Brazilian Bat Cave.
https://twitter.com/EwanMacKenna/status/1011234407733256192 (https://twitter.com/EwanMacKenna/status/1011234407733256192)
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
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Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.
There's not much of a height to fall from when you're right.
It hosted a senior provincial final eight days ago. When's the last one Kildare hosted? You seem irrationally angry about this as if it's a total injustice - the reality is Kildare's planning and reliance on Croke Park as a home venue for years is at the root of this decision.
If the likes of Roscommon or Cavan or Monaghan with tiny populations can have grounds capable of hosting 20k crowds what excuse does one of the richest regions in Ireland have for having a glorified club ground as its home?
Kildare basically made the bet that their money was better spent elsewhere, well this is the downside of that decision.
f**k off! Even in England non-league sides get to play in their small grounds against the EPL giants, that is fairness, that is what sport is suppose to be. Can you not get your head around that?
There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches like this one? I can only imagine the court cases if the GAA tried to pull that one.
If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.
There is 3700 Mayo season ticket holders.It seems Newbridge is cleared for 8000 by H&S authority.
Rumours that Kildare CB are refusing to move game to Croke Park.
I'd be pleasantly surprised but amazed if that was true.
If you start out a competition with certain rules you have to stick to them. And the rules of this competition are that the first drawn team in this round play at home, unless they're a Div1/2 county playing a Div 3/4 county.
You can't change the rules because you want to make more cash.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
Kildare seem to have found a bit of form by digging out two good wins on the road against Derry & Longford. We could struggle against their midfield with Parsons and Seami O'Shea out for the season and we really only have Aidan, D O'Connor and Kirby as recognised midfielders fit at the moment.Coen or Keegan can fill in but neither are out and out midfielders! Our fullback line was poor at times against Tipp's big men inside so Kildare should look for some joy with direct ball in there. James Durcan and the form of Doherty & McLouglin will cause Kildare a goof few problems too so this might turn into a bit of a shoot out with a couple of points either way bound to decide this game! At this stage I would bite your hand off if offered a scrappy one point win with no suspensions or injuries!!!
Newbridge is a tight enough pitch but I don't think Kildare are too comfortable playing a very defensive gameplan and the talent they have is better with three or four left in the forwards but O'Neill knows us well and might deploy a Tyrone type counter attack game!!
I wonder is Jason Gibbons back in with the squad at the moment?
Kildare kept 3 sometimes 4 up against Longford, one of our problems is the two Cribben's who generally form the first line in defence can't tackle a wet paper bag. Good going forward, awful in defence. I studied very closely on Sat evening. They just bite in and are easily stepped aside, it's one of the reasons when teams run at us we are in trouble. They just need to go soft and keep the goal side of the ball.
So do Kildare have anyone designated to sweep in the fullback line or do they just drop in whoever is deepest? Do the Cribbens and the midfield and half backline meet the attacks at the 45 or a drop back zonally? We have a great running game when we break even in midfield but not so good if we are losing the battle there!!
Has there been an actual official announcement that the game is fixed for Croke Park?
If there has, how can that happen without the consent of the KCB?
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
I'd be pleasantly surprised but amazed if that was true.
I don't see a problem if they refuse to move to Croker, I now read Newbridge can hold 10000 so a 50/50 split will cover the Mayo season tickets with 1300 or so tickets for the clubs and Co Board. It would be a cracking atmosphere and didn't Kildare build new dressing rooms as well so the teams will be well looked after?
Tickets already on sale on tickets.ie for this, so will be a right mess if it get's switched!
On sale at €25 too, up from €10 in previous round.
Croke Park it is double header with Tyrone v Cavan. Mayo have a better recent record there than MacHale Park.
Is there a spare park in newbridge where a big screen could be set up ? Like in the tennis .
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 02:01:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
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Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.
They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.
f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.
The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.
It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.
Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.
There's not much of a height to fall from when you're right.
It hosted a senior provincial final eight days ago. When's the last one Kildare hosted? You seem irrationally angry about this as if it's a total injustice - the reality is Kildare's planning and reliance on Croke Park as a home venue for years is at the root of this decision.
If the likes of Roscommon or Cavan or Monaghan with tiny populations can have grounds capable of hosting 20k crowds what excuse does one of the richest regions in Ireland have for having a glorified club ground as its home?
Kildare basically made the bet that their money was better spent elsewhere, well this is the downside of that decision.
f**k off! Even in England non-league sides get to play in their small grounds against the EPL giants, that is fairness, that is what sport is suppose to be. Can you not get your head around that?
There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches?
If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.
I'll bite so.
The ground is certified for over 10,000. That ridiculous 6,000 restriction was lifted after remedial works (new crush barriers on the Barracks Terrace & improvements to the access points) about four years ago. There are not over 10,000 season ticket holders to be accommodated between both counties.
Ok so - that changes things. Nothing I found on Google mentioned a 10,000 capacity, only the 6,200 capacity. There were articles about planning for an expansion to around 15,000 from last year however.
How many matches has Newbridge hosted with over 6,200 people in attendance in the last seven years?
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 02:21:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
Kildare seem to have found a bit of form by digging out two good wins on the road against Derry & Longford. We could struggle against their midfield with Parsons and Seami O'Shea out for the season and we really only have Aidan, D O'Connor and Kirby as recognised midfielders fit at the moment.Coen or Keegan can fill in but neither are out and out midfielders! Our fullback line was poor at times against Tipp's big men inside so Kildare should look for some joy with direct ball in there. James Durcan and the form of Doherty & McLouglin will cause Kildare a goof few problems too so this might turn into a bit of a shoot out with a couple of points either way bound to decide this game! At this stage I would bite your hand off if offered a scrappy one point win with no suspensions or injuries!!!
Newbridge is a tight enough pitch but I don't think Kildare are too comfortable playing a very defensive gameplan and the talent they have is better with three or four left in the forwards but O'Neill knows us well and might deploy a Tyrone type counter attack game!!
I wonder is Jason Gibbons back in with the squad at the moment?
Kildare kept 3 sometimes 4 up against Longford, one of our problems is the two Cribben's who generally form the first line in defence can't tackle a wet paper bag. Good going forward, awful in defence. I studied very closely on Sat evening. They just bite in and are easily stepped aside, it's one of the reasons when teams run at us we are in trouble. They just need to go soft and keep the goal side of the ball.
So do Kildare have anyone designated to sweep in the fullback line or do they just drop in whoever is deepest? Do the Cribbens and the midfield and half backline meet the attacks at the 45 or a drop back zonally? We ave a great running game when we break even in midfield but not so good if we are losing the battle there!!
Eoin Doyle drops back to sweep and he's useless at it to be honest. We have a very poor mentality when it comes to defence. Midfield and the 2 half-forwards try to meet attacks between 45 and half-way and track, half-backs tuck in zonally. We leave plenty of space on the wings and just don't put enough pressure on shooters. Lots of shouts of "contact" from the coaches, we're just not getting a hand on the chest and when we do it's from the side and an easy free. Feeley will be the key, carrying a knock but the only midfielder last season to get the better of Fenton and the only Kildare player the opposition will put a plan in place for.
Real bad form this and you'd wonder did KCB have this sort of agreement already in place. Supporters kicked up a fuss about Mayo v Kerry replay in Limerick a few years back but the county board had already agreed to it well before then.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches?
If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.
I'll bite so.
The ground is certified for over 10,000. That ridiculous 6,000 restriction was lifted after remedial works (new crush barriers on the Barracks Terrace & improvements to the access points) about four years ago. There are not over 10,000 season ticket holders to be accommodated between both counties.
Ok so - that changes things. Nothing I found on Google mentioned a 10,000 capacity, only the 6,200 capacity. There were articles about planning for an expansion to around 15,000 from last year however.
2013:
https://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/louth-next-up-for-lilies-in-qualifiers-29386411.html (https://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/louth-next-up-for-lilies-in-qualifiers-29386411.html)
2018:
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/31701-mayo-fans-urged-to-buy-tickets-in-advance (http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/31701-mayo-fans-urged-to-buy-tickets-in-advance)
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:27:37 PM
How many matches has Newbridge hosted with over 6,200 people in attendance in the last seven years?
2013 against Tyrone and 2016 against Offaly. Mayo in the league in 2014 was a very big crowd. Dublin in two O'Byrne Cup games. All the Sarsfields/Moorefield county finals.
Quote from: Mac2 on June 25, 2018, 02:37:00 PM
Real bad form this and you'd wonder did KCB have this sort of agreement already in place. Supporters kicked up a fuss about Mayo v Kerry replay in Limerick a few years back but the county board had already agreed to it well before then.
To be fair, that game was moved from one neutral venue to another neutral venue.
Apples & oranges.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 02:21:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
Kildare seem to have found a bit of form by digging out two good wins on the road against Derry & Longford. We could struggle against their midfield with Parsons and Seami O'Shea out for the season and we really only have Aidan, D O'Connor and Kirby as recognised midfielders fit at the moment.Coen or Keegan can fill in but neither are out and out midfielders! Our fullback line was poor at times against Tipp's big men inside so Kildare should look for some joy with direct ball in there. James Durcan and the form of Doherty & McLouglin will cause Kildare a goof few problems too so this might turn into a bit of a shoot out with a couple of points either way bound to decide this game! At this stage I would bite your hand off if offered a scrappy one point win with no suspensions or injuries!!!
Newbridge is a tight enough pitch but I don't think Kildare are too comfortable playing a very defensive gameplan and the talent they have is better with three or four left in the forwards but O'Neill knows us well and might deploy a Tyrone type counter attack game!!
I wonder is Jason Gibbons back in with the squad at the moment?
Kildare kept 3 sometimes 4 up against Longford, one of our problems is the two Cribben's who generally form the first line in defence can't tackle a wet paper bag. Good going forward, awful in defence. I studied very closely on Sat evening. They just bite in and are easily stepped aside, it's one of the reasons when teams run at us we are in trouble. They just need to go soft and keep the goal side of the ball.
So do Kildare have anyone designated to sweep in the fullback line or do they just drop in whoever is deepest? Do the Cribbens and the midfield and half backline meet the attacks at the 45 or a drop back zonally? We ave a great running game when we break even in midfield but not so good if we are losing the battle there!!
Eoin Doyle drops back to sweep and he's useless at it to be honest. We have a very poor mentality when it comes to defence. Midfield and the 2 half-forwards try to meet attacks between 45 and half-way and track, half-backs tuck in zonally. We leave plenty of space on the wings and just don't put enough pressure on shooters. Lots of shouts of "contact" from the coaches, we're just not getting a hand on the chest and when we do it's from the side and an easy free. Feeley will be the key, carrying a knock but the only midfielder last season to get the better of Fenton and the only Kildare player the opposition will put a plan in place for.
Jason Doherty and Kevin McLoughlin did alot of damage from the wings against Tipp and Lee Keegan loves to burst off the shoulder on either wing as well. Your extra man Doyle will have to work hard as that player that drops back is key to stopping Andy Moran. Against Kerry both days they didn't really have anyone dropping back in front of him and same with the Dubs which is why he did so much damage one on one. He is very clever with his runs and never stops moving at all during the game. James Durcan adds something we have lacked in the inside forwards and that is genuine pace!! THis all depends on us getting a decent return from midfield and while Diarmuid and Aidan should be fine for a hour, it is when the tire we might have nothing on the bench to replace them with!! Kildare could get alot of joy from the direct ball into your big athletic full forwards if you are on top in the middle.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches?
If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.
I'll bite so.
The ground is certified for over 10,000. That ridiculous 6,000 restriction was lifted after remedial works (new crush barriers on the Barracks Terrace & improvements to the access points) about four years ago. There are not over 10,000 season ticket holders to be accommodated between both counties.
Ok so - that changes things. Nothing I found on Google mentioned a 10,000 capacity, only the 6,200 capacity. There were articles about planning for an expansion to around 15,000 from last year however.
2013:
https://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/louth-next-up-for-lilies-in-qualifiers-29386411.html (https://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/louth-next-up-for-lilies-in-qualifiers-29386411.html)
2018:
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/31701-mayo-fans-urged-to-buy-tickets-in-advance (http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/31701-mayo-fans-urged-to-buy-tickets-in-advance)
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:27:37 PM
How many matches has Newbridge hosted with over 6,200 people in attendance in the last seven years?
2013 against Tyrone and 2016 against Offaly. Mayo in the league in 2014 was a very big crowd. Dublin in two O'Byrne Cup games. All the Sarsfields/Moorefield county finals.
Then I take back most of what I said, because it was on the wrong assumption that the capacity was 6,200. It should be played in Newbridge. Did Kildare's CB originally agree to this change or not, though? It would be incredible that the tickets would go on sale without the KCB at least agreeing to it at some level, even if it was under duress from HQ.
Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.
They have a convenient excuse in that Tyrone Cavan can't be played in Breffni Park so will use this as justification for the move to a double header in Croker (they wouldn't have a standalone game in Croker at this stage of c'ship).
It's extremely unfair on Kildare.
The game is on tv so if some people miss out on being there as a result of a reduced capacity then so be it.
Tullamore, Nowlan Park or Portlaoise the obvious alternativevenues for kildare to nominate
Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.
They have a convenient excuse in that Tyrone Cavan can't be played in Breffni Park so will use this as justification for the move to a double header in Croker (they wouldn't have a standalone game in Croker at this stage of c'ship).
It's extremely unfair on Kildare.
The game is on tv so if some people miss out on being there as a result of a reduced capacity then so be it.
That game could have been played in Clones and our game with Kildare in Newbridge, two provincial grounds full or near full would be a way better atmoshpere and would look better on tv!!
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
Tullamore, Nowlan Park or Portlaoise the obvious alternativevenues for kildare to nominate
Would Tullamore not be further away from parts of Kildare than Croke Park? it's not exactly a huge distance from Kildare if it is being moved.
More walkovers in an empty croke park in July. It's what the summer is all about.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.
They have a convenient excuse in that Tyrone Cavan can't be played in Breffni Park so will use this as justification for the move to a double header in Croker (they wouldn't have a standalone game in Croker at this stage of c'ship).
It's extremely unfair on Kildare.
The game is on tv so if some people miss out on being there as a result of a reduced capacity then so be it.
That game could have been played in Clones and our game with Kildare in Newbridge, two provincial grounds full or near full would be a way better atmoshpere and would look better on tv!!
Absolutely I agree 100%.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on June 25, 2018, 02:37:00 PM
Real bad form this and you'd wonder did KCB have this sort of agreement already in place. Supporters kicked up a fuss about Mayo v Kerry replay in Limerick a few years back but the county board had already agreed to it well before then.
To be fair, that game was moved from one neutral venue to another neutral venue.
Apples & oranges.
Correct and Round 3 games are meant to have home advantage. GAA making up things as they go along.
Surely Kildare county board have agreed to this on some level? Couldn't go ahead without them giving the go ahead.... could it??
Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.
They have a convenient excuse in that Tyrone Cavan can't be played in Breffni Park so will use this as justification for the move to a double header in Croker (they wouldn't have a standalone game in Croker at this stage of c'ship).
It's extremely unfair on Kildare.
The game is on tv so if some people miss out on being there as a result of a reduced capacity then so be it.
That game could have been played in Clones and our game with Kildare in Newbridge, two provincial grounds full or near full would be a way better atmoshpere and would look better on tv!!
Absolutely I agree 100%.
Unfortunately Galwayman I would wager neither of us will ever have a say in these things apart form a vote at a club AGM and that is assuming our county delegate actually votes the way the clubs mandate them!!
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 03:03:27 PM
Surely Kildare county board have agreed to this on some level? Couldn't go ahead without them giving the go ahead.... could it??
They should threaten to not field but they don't have to agree, the CCCC or any CCC for that matter can fix games as they wish and you can't object/appeal a fixture (that is assuming of course there is a get out clause in the rules that they don't automatically get home advantage without conditions)
If you take home advantage away from a team, at the knock-out stage of the championship, surely to god you have to at least give a reason.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on June 25, 2018, 02:37:00 PM
Real bad form this and you'd wonder did KCB have this sort of agreement already in place. Supporters kicked up a fuss about Mayo v Kerry replay in Limerick a few years back but the county board had already agreed to it well before then.
To be fair, that game was moved from one neutral venue to another neutral venue.
Apples & oranges.
Not saying they're the same just that county boards can sometimes be complicit in these things.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:49:10 PM
If ever there was a time for everyone's favourite Kildare arsehole to make some noise it's now. Ewan now is your opportunity and surely Athy's Ger Gilroy and Celbridge's Joe Molloy will give him plenty of airtime.
Joe is a Mayo man at heart.
To play devils advocate, there may be a condition in the season ticket that you are allowed to bring a friend to the match, I know you can for all but the final. If this is in the contract then it would have to be adhered to and would make Celbridge untenable.
Quote from: heffo on June 25, 2018, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 03:03:27 PM
Surely Kildare county board have agreed to this on some level? Couldn't go ahead without them giving the go ahead.... could it??
They should threaten to not field but they don't have to agree, the CCCC or any CCC for that matter can fix games as they wish and you can't object/appeal a fixture (that is assuming of course there is a get out clause in the rules that they don't automatically get home advantage without conditions)
Interesting, are you aware of any clauses Heffo? Is this tied back to the bail out do you think?
Quote from: heffo on June 25, 2018, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 03:03:27 PM
Surely Kildare county board have agreed to this on some level? Couldn't go ahead without them giving the go ahead.... could it??
They should threaten to not field but they don't have to agree, the CCCC or any CCC for that matter can fix games as they wish and you can't object/appeal a fixture (that is assuming of course there is a get out clause in the rules that they don't automatically get home advantage without conditions)
Yeah, I was wondering if there is a 'provided that...' attached to the home advantage bit.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 25, 2018, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 03:03:27 PM
Surely Kildare county board have agreed to this on some level? Couldn't go ahead without them giving the go ahead.... could it??
They should threaten to not field but they don't have to agree, the CCCC or any CCC for that matter can fix games as they wish and you can't object/appeal a fixture (that is assuming of course there is a get out clause in the rules that they don't automatically get home advantage without conditions)
Interesting, are you aware of any clauses Heffo? Is this tied back to the bail out do you think?
I'd imagine any new competition being drawn up would have a rule along the lines of first team drawn out gets home advantage *Provided home ground meets certain requirements and final decision rests with CCCC*
Would be very surprised if there were still any strings around the bailout - more likely a behind doors deal was done.
KCB should stand their ground, no reason the game shouldn't go ahead in Newbridge.
Ffs the same whinging holes crying bloody murder over this would be giving out stink if they couldn't get a ticket. This is fairly standard in GAA and not comparable to what happens in a different sport in England. Either way Croke Park is a lot closer to Kildare than Mayo and the winner is going to be decided by the best team on the day (possibly aided by dodgy officiating knowing the way things go) not the patch of grass the games played on.
I think there is a provided for clause in the terms and conditions for the GAA season ticket. As far as I can see you are only guaranteed a ticket to all champinship and league games and the All Ireland if you have attended 60% of these games in total.
I don't remember the bring a friend option being available for the 2015 semi final against the Dubs on the first day anyway.
Looks like it's going ahead in Croker - mails sent out to season ticket holders with 'Bring a Friend' option etc
So I presume this means that if Kildare beat Mayo and then beat Cork or Roscommon in Round 4, which would put them in Dublin's group, Dublin would end up playing their home, neutral and away games in Croke Park. :o
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 03:23:59 PM
Ffs the same whinging holes crying bloody murder over this would be giving out stink if they couldn't get a ticket. This is fairly standard in GAA and not comparable to what happens in a different sport in England. Either way Croke Park is a lot closer to Kildare than Mayo and the winner is going to be decided by the best team on the day (possibly aided by dodgy officiating knowing the way things go) not the patch of grass the games played on.
Yeah, it's not like Mayo supporters ever moaned about the choice of venue for a match before.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 25, 2018, 03:27:38 PM
So I presume this means that if Kildare beat Mayo and then beat Cork or Roscommon in Round 4, which would put them in Dublin's group, Dublin would end up playing their home, neutral and away games in Croke Park. :o
That's one hell of a jump you made there, you should try for the Olympics.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 25, 2018, 03:27:38 PM
So I presume this means that if Kildare beat Mayo and then beat Cork or Roscommon in Round 4, which would put them in Dublin's group, Dublin would end up playing their home, neutral and away games in Croke Park. :o
Could still be the way if Mayo do that. Using the same logic if Mayo had the Dubs at home McHale park only holds 30,000 so that would leave about 40,000 left outside who would normally go to that game. Therefore GAA logic tells us you can't leave patrons outside if it can be helped so Croker is the only place for that match. If Croke park throw in the swettener of relaxing the terms of the loan they took over from Ulster Bank then I am sure oru CB would go for it and tell us this was all in the interest of the Mayo fans so they could see there team etc... (Not a shot at any Dubs by the way)
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 03:27:08 PM
Looks like it's going ahead in Croker - mails sent out to season ticket holders with 'Bring a Friend' option etc
There will be plenty of seats so. Kildare supporters won't travel. I think it's fair to say the GAA have lost the war in Kildare. Nearly 70k in CP last year, a bangwagon second only to Dublin in it's pomp, that's a lot of money to lose.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 03:30:40 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 25, 2018, 03:27:38 PM
So I presume this means that if Kildare beat Mayo and then beat Cork or Roscommon in Round 4, which would put them in Dublin's group, Dublin would end up playing their home, neutral and away games in Croke Park. :o
That's one hell of a jump you made there, you should try for the Olympics.
If Kildare do end up in Dublin's group, where do you expect a Dublin v Kildare game to be played?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 03:27:08 PM
Looks like it's going ahead in Croker - mails sent out to season ticket holders with 'Bring a Friend' option etc
There will be plenty of seats so. Kildare supporters won't travel. I think it's fair to say the GAA have lost the war in Kildare. Nearly 70k in CP last year, a bangwagon second only to Dublin in it's pomp, that's a lot of money to lose.
I wasn't joking earlier:
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 09:36:15 AM
Handy one for Mayo. All the Kildare boys will be at the Derby.
;D
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 03:28:05 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 03:23:59 PM
Ffs the same whinging holes crying bloody murder over this would be giving out stink if they couldn't get a ticket. This is fairly standard in GAA and not comparable to what happens in a different sport in England. Either way Croke Park is a lot closer to Kildare than Mayo and the winner is going to be decided by the best team on the day (possibly aided by dodgy officiating knowing the way things go) not the patch of grass the games played on.
Yeah, it's not like Mayo supporters ever moaned about the choice of venue for a match before.
You're not replying to a Mayo poster there DH.
Kildare should definitely be allowed to retain home advantage, it would have made for a great atmosphere
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 03:27:08 PM
Looks like it's going ahead in Croker - mails sent out to season ticket holders with 'Bring a Friend' option etc
There will be plenty of seats so. Kildare supporters won't travel. I think it's fair to say the GAA have lost the war in Kildare. Nearly 70k in CP last year, a bangwagon second only to Dublin in it's pomp, that's a lot of money to lose.
It is a pity cause while I still give Kildare a right good chance of catching us on Sat, the game in Newbridge would have been a great occasion that I was looking forward to. Yeah lots of Mayo fans would have missed it but this is what the season ticket is for adventures like Thurles last Sat or Ennis last year!! The best atmosphere last year at a Mayo game apart from the All Ireland was either Ennis or the second half of the Derry game in Castlebar in my opinion.
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:26:28 PM
I think there is a provided for clause in the terms and conditions for the GAA season ticket. As far as I can see you are only guaranteed a ticket to all champinship and league games and the All Ireland if you have attended 60% of these games in total.
I don't remember the bring a friend option being available for the 2015 semi final against the Dubs on the first day anyway.
That only applies to All Ireland final
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Good to see the majority of fair minded Mayo posters on the board can see why so many have a problem with it.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Why have you such a hard on for Mayo.
We didn't switch the venue.
Most travelling Mayo supporters would have preferred a packed Tullamore with a great atmosphere as opposed to a 1/3 full Croke park.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Where was that stated?
Quote from: joemamas on June 25, 2018, 03:51:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Why have you such a hard on for Mayo.
We didn't switch the venue.
Most travelling Mayo supporters would have preferred a packed Tullamore with a great atmosphere as opposed to a 1/3 full Croke park.
I know that, every group has a clown, Rosnaruin is your unfortunately.
Dinny is on one today
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Really! The whole Mayo GAA must be to blame there so. Must have missed all the RIAI awards McHale Park has received.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:52:59 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 25, 2018, 03:51:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Why have you such a hard on for Mayo.
We didn't switch the venue.
Most travelling Mayo supporters would have preferred a packed Tullamore with a great atmosphere as opposed to a 1/3 full Croke park.
I know that, every group has a clown, Rosnaruin is your unfortunately.
Ah we have a few and then we're plagued with Funny **** and Syferus who follow us round like a bad smell
Quote from: Solo_run on June 25, 2018, 03:54:33 PM
Dinny is on one today
Not really. Kildare supporters aren't looking for sympathy but empathy. This could happen to any county so zero tolerance for WUMs, trolls, high horses or arsehole's today.
FTR majority of Mayo supporters going back to Barney's day's, Muppet etc may they rest in peace have always been sound, so don't mean to dog Mayo out.
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Martin Carney anyone?
Sean Lowry anyone?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:52:59 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 25, 2018, 03:51:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Why have you such a hard on for Mayo.
We didn't switch the venue.
Most travelling Mayo supporters would have preferred a packed Tullamore with a great atmosphere as opposed to a 1/3 full Croke park.
I know that, every group has a clown, Rosnaruin is your unfortunately.
Ah we have a few and then we're plagued with Funny **** and Syferus who follow us round like a bad smell
Hardly.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Really! The whole Mayo GAA must be to blame there so. Must have missed all the RIAI awards McHale Park has received.
Second best GAA ground, behind only Croke Park
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 25, 2018, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Where was that stated?
Last years accounts, pretty standard I suppose, Coke Park are just acting like a bank, they took over the 5m loan Mayo Co Board had with Ulster bank and the deal was the period of the overall loan repayment period was extended which reduced the annual payments in reality for Mayo on the day to day running but acually Mayo will pay back more than they would have if they were able to stick to the original agreed term of the loan repayments. I would say this happens all the time in loan re-negotiations on long term debt when the bank is refusing a write down or write off. I have no problem with Croke PArk on this as it was our lot who fucked up the spending on the stand with an amazing 400,000 owed at one stage to the architects who were considering legal action!!!
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Really! The whole Mayo GAA must be to blame there so. Must have missed all the RIAI awards McHale Park has received.
We got one for each pole in the roof supports!! ;D
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on June 25, 2018, 03:54:33 PM
Dinny is on one today
Not really. Kildare supporters aren't looking for sympathy but empathy. This could happen to any county so zero tolerance for WUMs, trolls, high horses or arsehole's today.
FTR majority of Mayo supporters going back to Barney's day's, Muppet etc may they rest in peace have always been sound, so don't mean to dog Mayo out.
While a lot might not agree, I do think if Newbridge cannot be used then Kildare should be allowed to choose a venue that is a reasonable alternative. This is still a qualifiers game and I don't see the point in Tyrone and Cavan being moved there.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 04:01:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Really! The whole Mayo GAA must be to blame there so. Must have missed all the RIAI awards McHale Park has received.
Second best GAA ground, behind only Croke Park
Bullshit, The pitch is shite and the stand is twice to big.
Why is Newbridge still substandard? The crash was a decade ago
Quote from: Solo_run on June 25, 2018, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on June 25, 2018, 03:54:33 PM
Dinny is on one today
Not really. Kildare supporters aren't looking for sympathy but empathy. This could happen to any county so zero tolerance for WUMs, trolls, high horses or arsehole's today.
FTR majority of Mayo supporters going back to Barney's day's, Muppet etc may they rest in peace have always been sound, so don't mean to dog Mayo out.
While a lot might not agree, I do think if Newbridge cannot be used then Kildare should be allowed to choose a venue that is a reasonable alternative. This is still a qualifiers game and I don't see the point in Tyrone and Cavan being moved there.
100% agree.
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
Why is Newbridge still substandard? The crash was a decade ago
It's not it's actually standard, I mean I was in Pearce Park Saturday and Dr Cullen Friday evening and not much worse than Parnell Park, better access in fact. H&S certified for 10K, remedial work has taken place the last couple of years. CP claim 20K want to attend, which is a magical made up number.
Planning permission applied for a new stand as well. Will be very nice provincial ground when complete, should hold 12K comfortably. Just won't have any Kildare supporters to fill it.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 25, 2018, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Where was that stated?
Last years accounts, pretty standard I suppose, Coke Park are just acting like a bank, they took over the 5m loan Mayo Co Board had with Ulster bank and the deal was the period of the overall loan repayment period was extended which reduced the annual payments in reality for Mayo on the day to day running but acually Mayo will pay back more than they would have if they were able to stick to the original agreed term of the loan repayments. I would say this happens all the time in loan re-negotiations on long term debt when the bank is refusing a write down or write off. I have no problem with Croke PArk on this as it was our lot who fucked up the spending on the stand with an amazing 400,000 owed at one stage to the architects who were considering legal action!!!
Had a look at the accounts and I can't see anything on the interest rate?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:52:59 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 25, 2018, 03:51:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Why have you such a hard on for Mayo.
We didn't switch the venue.
Most travelling Mayo supporters would have preferred a packed Tullamore with a great atmosphere as opposed to a 1/3 full Croke park.
I know that, every group has a clown, Rosnaruin is your unfortunately.
Ah we have a few and then we're plagued with Funny **** and Syferus who follow us round like a bad smell
What did i say to upset you? please don't throw me into the same bracket as syferus as he is out on his own on here.
As some one said above Kildare should have been asked to nominate a different venue and Cavan likewise.
Tullamore and Clones well filled loads of atmosphere etc and no controversy.
25k max in Croke Park like a graveyard and a load of controversy and disgruntledment etc etc
Quote from: joemamas on June 25, 2018, 04:10:04 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 04:01:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Really! The whole Mayo GAA must be to blame there so. Must have missed all the RIAI awards McHale Park has received.
Second best GAA ground, behind only Croke Park
Bullshit, The pitch is shite and the stand is twice to big.
What stadium is better? Was in Semple Stadium on Saturday and it's a kip
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
Why is Newbridge still substandard? The crash was a decade ago
It's not it's actually standard, I mean I was in Pearce Park Saturday and Dr Cullen Friday evening and not much worse than Parnell Park, better access in fact. H&S certified for 10K, remedial work has taken place the last couple of years. CP claim 20K want to attend, which is a magical made up number.
Planning permission applied for a new stand as well. Will be very nice provincial ground when complete, should hold 12K comfortably. Just won't have any Kildare supporters to fill it.
If it's certified to hold 10k then moving this match is nothing short of a disgrace, all Mayo season ticket holders can be taken care of, if that is the capacity. Are we going to see multiple instances of home Super 8 matches for certain counties moved to another venue in the years to come purely because of the crowd Dublin and Mayo bring outside of their season ticket holders? At the very least give Kildare their choice of neutral venue if it absolutely cannot be held in Newbridge.
Cavan have their own issue as to why they cannot use Breffni Park at the moment but I have a real problem with Kildare being forced to move in this instance, particularly to a venue not of thier choice. The only people this situation suits are SKY.
If the architect was owned 400,000k i have queries with the contract as a standard consultant fee these days us 1o-12% of the contract total@
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 25, 2018, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
Why is Newbridge still substandard? The crash was a decade ago
It's not it's actually standard, I mean I was in Pearce Park Saturday and Dr Cullen Friday evening and not much worse than Parnell Park, better access in fact. H&S certified for 10K, remedial work has taken place the last couple of years. CP claim 20K want to attend, which is a magical made up number.
Planning permission applied for a new stand as well. Will be very nice provincial ground when complete, should hold 12K comfortably. Just won't have any Kildare supporters to fill it.
If it's certified to hold 10k then moving this match is nothing short of a disgrace, all Mayo season ticket holders can be taken care of, if that is the capacity. Are we going to see multiple instances of home Super 8 matches for certain counties moved to another venue in the years to come purely because of the crowd Dublin and Mayo bring outside of their season ticket holders? At the very least give Kildare their choice of neutral venue if it absolutely cannot be held in Newbridge.
Cavan have their own issue as to why they cannot use Breffni Park at the moment but I have a real problem with Kildare being forced to move in this instance, particularly to a venue not of thier choice. The only people this situation suits are SKY.
Hence the reason for the decision perhaps?
Reports coming out the Kildare County Board are to issue a statement refusing to play the game anywhere else other than Newbridge.
It's their only option, never seen so many Kildare supporters angry, it's the kind of anger normally reserved for Meath referees.
One way to galvanize a county.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:35:25 PM
Reports coming out the Kildare County Board are to issue a statement refusing to play the game anywhere else other than Newbridge.
It's their only option, never seen so many Kildare supporters angry, it's the kind of anger normally reserved for Meath referees.
One way to galvanize a county.
Fair play to Kildare holding ground on this. Another thing to take into account is if the game was played in Newbridge or Tullamore,Portlaoise the price of tickets would have been €15.00. With the game in Croke park the price of tickets will now be €25.00.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 25, 2018, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:35:25 PM
Reports coming out the Kildare County Board are to issue a statement refusing to play the game anywhere else other than Newbridge.
It's their only option, never seen so many Kildare supporters angry, it's the kind of anger normally reserved for Meath referees.
One way to galvanize a county.
Fair play to Kildare holding ground on this. Another thing to take into account is if the game was played in Newbridge or Tullamore,Portlaoise the price of tickets would have been €15.00. With the game in Croke park the price of tickets will now be €25.00.
Tickets already gone on sale
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 25, 2018, 04:20:11 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 25, 2018, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Where was that stated?
Last years accounts, pretty standard I suppose, Coke Park are just acting like a bank, they took over the 5m loan Mayo Co Board had with Ulster bank and the deal was the period of the overall loan repayment period was extended which reduced the annual payments in reality for Mayo on the day to day running but acually Mayo will pay back more than they would have if they were able to stick to the original agreed term of the loan repayments. I would say this happens all the time in loan re-negotiations on long term debt when the bank is refusing a write down or write off. I have no problem with Croke PArk on this as it was our lot who fucked up the spending on the stand with an amazing 400,000 owed at one stage to the architects who were considering legal action!!!
Had a look at the accounts and I can't see anything on the interest rate?
Sorry I just checked and it was in a circular I was sent from a CB meeting by a man who was trying to garner support for his candiancy for treasurer in 2017. Now I will admit this puts a lot less creedance in what I read from this information but I still stand by that it is not interest free loan,as in all Mayo Co Board are doing is paying back the loan over a longer period of time which leads to smaller annual payments but the full loan plus interest will have to be paid back albeit over a longer period.
Other games are €20 - Leitrim v Monaghan is anyway.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
Why is Newbridge still substandard? The crash was a decade ago
It's not it's actually standard, I mean I was in Pearce Park Saturday and Dr Cullen Friday evening and not much worse than Parnell Park, better access in fact. H&S certified for 10K, remedial work has taken place the last couple of years. CP claim 20K want to attend, which is a magical made up number.
Planning permission applied for a new stand as well. Will be very nice provincial ground when complete, should hold 12K comfortably. Just won't have any Kildare supporters to fill it.
It is cleared to hold 10,000 though and surely this is enough to accomodate Mayo & Kildare season ticket holders along with Co Board and have some tickets to the clubs or am I missing something? How many season ticket holders are there in Kildare?
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
Why is Newbridge still substandard? The crash was a decade ago
because they choose to spend their money differently which is fine , but lets not pretend then that newbridge is a worthy county ground when nthe likes offaly, monaghan derry, Kerry for instance have 2 grounds superior to it as would many others even ballina would give it a run for its money .
Kildare play their big games In Croker fulll stop maybe they don't see mayo as a big team? that's what sunday will decide
Mayo Did not spend 20Million of Mchalle park stadium or anything like it they redeveloped the whole Facilities whiich has about 5 quality pitches renovated the club house .
and comparing Martin Carney and sean lowry from about 35 years ago to some of kildare's imports ihhurling and football or even footballing hurlers laughable both came to may for work Lowry was well retired and Carney has the richest of mayo .
Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 25, 2018, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
Why is Newbridge still substandard? The crash was a decade ago
It's not it's actually standard, I mean I was in Pearce Park Saturday and Dr Cullen Friday evening and not much worse than Parnell Park, better access in fact. H&S certified for 10K, remedial work has taken place the last couple of years. CP claim 20K want to attend, which is a magical made up number.
Planning permission applied for a new stand as well. Will be very nice provincial ground when complete, should hold 12K comfortably. Just won't have any Kildare supporters to fill it.
If it's certified to hold 10k then moving this match is nothing short of a disgrace, all Mayo season ticket holders can be taken care of, if that is the capacity. Are we going to see multiple instances of home Super 8 matches for certain counties moved to another venue in the years to come purely because of the crowd Dublin and Mayo bring outside of their season ticket holders? At the very least give Kildare their choice of neutral venue if it absolutely cannot be held in Newbridge.
Cavan have their own issue as to why they cannot use Breffni Park at the moment but I have a real problem with Kildare being forced to move in this instance, particularly to a venue not of thier choice. The only people this situation suits are SKY.
Hence the reason for the decision perhaps?
It's looking like it, isn't it?
If Kildare County Board refuse to give up home advantage what happens next?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:35:25 PM
Reports coming out the Kildare County Board are to issue a statement refusing to play the game anywhere else other than Newbridge.
It's their only option, never seen so many Kildare supporters angry, it's the kind of anger normally reserved for Meath referees.
One way to galvanize a county.
Not arguing the rights or wrongs of the situation, it should be up to Kildare where the match is IMO.
No harm Dinny though but there is no way the GAA could bow to that, it would be bandit land for any county board.
On the €20 v €25, we are getting to see two games, I don't think it's out of the way
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 04:45:49 PM
If Kildare County Board refuse to give up home advantage what happens next?
The gaa will have to stick to their guns
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 25, 2018, 04:45:19 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 25, 2018, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
Why is Newbridge still substandard? The crash was a decade ago
It's not it's actually standard, I mean I was in Pearce Park Saturday and Dr Cullen Friday evening and not much worse than Parnell Park, better access in fact. H&S certified for 10K, remedial work has taken place the last couple of years. CP claim 20K want to attend, which is a magical made up number.
Planning permission applied for a new stand as well. Will be very nice provincial ground when complete, should hold 12K comfortably. Just won't have any Kildare supporters to fill it.
If it's certified to hold 10k then moving this match is nothing short of a disgrace, all Mayo season ticket holders can be taken care of, if that is the capacity. Are we going to see multiple instances of home Super 8 matches for certain counties moved to another venue in the years to come purely because of the crowd Dublin and Mayo bring outside of their season ticket holders? At the very least give Kildare their choice of neutral venue if it absolutely cannot be held in Newbridge.
Cavan have their own issue as to why they cannot use Breffni Park at the moment but I have a real problem with Kildare being forced to move in this instance, particularly to a venue not of thier choice. The only people this situation suits are SKY.
Hence the reason for the decision perhaps?
It's looking like it, isn't it?
If Sky are about optics surely packed provincial grounds would look better on tv though like the romance of the cup hype you see for the early round of the FA cup?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 04:45:49 PM
If Kildare County Board refuse to give up home advantage what happens next?
The gaa will have to stick to their guns
Do they appeal to the CCCC or DRA or something or do the GAA just tell them turn up or else?
If Kildare refuse to fulfil the fixture -will it mean all Kildare county teams suspended for 2919?
I see their hurlers don't get automatic promotion for winning the CR Cup. What's that all about?
No wonder they're pissed off.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:35:25 PM
Reports coming out the Kildare County Board are to issue a statement refusing to play the game anywhere else other than Newbridge.
It's their only option, never seen so many Kildare supporters angry, it's the kind of anger normally reserved for Meath referees.
One way to galvanize a county.
Ah jaysus have ye no auld rugby pitch you could borrow for a Saturday evening? ;)
Sure let us know how ye got on, I have to book the train tickets.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 04:39:16 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 25, 2018, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:35:25 PM
Reports coming out the Kildare County Board are to issue a statement refusing to play the game anywhere else other than Newbridge.
It's their only option, never seen so many Kildare supporters angry, it's the kind of anger normally reserved for Meath referees.
One way to galvanize a county.
Fair play to Kildare holding ground on this. Another thing to take into account is if the game was played in Newbridge or Tullamore,Portlaoise the price of tickets would have been €15.00. With the game in Croke park the price of tickets will now be €25.00.
Tickets already gone on sale
Well either Kildare GAA already gave their approval for the venue change or someone at HQ seriously jumped the gun by allowing tickets for CP to go on sale.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 04:50:12 PM
If Kildare refuse to fulfil the fixture -will it mean all Kildare county teams suspended for 2919?
We'll be back to put a halt to Dublin's march for 909 Leinster titles in a row.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
Was in Semple Stadium on Saturday and it's a kip
Have been to both. Semple Stadium is a much better stadium than MacHale Park. They don't have poles in their stand blocking your view and don't have a bottle neck under the stand when trying to make your way to the toliets and Semple Stadium has perfect playing surface.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
Was in Semple Stadium on Saturday and it's a kip
Have been to both. Semple Stadium is a much better stadium than MacHale Park. They don't have poles in their stand blocking your view and don't have a bottle neck under the stand when trying to make your way to the toliets and Semple Stadium has perfect playing surface.
Have you ever tried to get in and out of the seats in Semple Stadium? Not even a back on the seats. MacHale Park far better.
Could they not play the match at Goffs?
Sportsjoe are saying there are reports tha Kildare Co Board initially agreed to Croke Park and then did a u turn but who credible these reports are who knows?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 05:07:03 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
Was in Semple Stadium on Saturday and it's a kip
Have been to both. Semple Stadium is a much better stadium than MacHale Park. They don't have poles in their stand blocking your view and don't have a bottle neck under the stand when trying to make your way to the toliets and Semple Stadium has perfect playing surface.
Have you ever tried to get in and out of the seats in Semple Stadium? Not even a back on the seats. MacHale Park far better.
The cement benches behind both goals and terrace in MacHale park has no back on seats either. I don't see how it is better? It wasn't money well spent on MacHale Park.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 05:07:03 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
Was in Semple Stadium on Saturday and it's a kip
Have been to both. Semple Stadium is a much better stadium than MacHale Park. They don't have poles in their stand blocking your view and don't have a bottle neck under the stand when trying to make your way to the toliets and Semple Stadium has perfect playing surface.
Have you ever tried to get in and out of the seats in Semple Stadium? Not even a back on the seats. MacHale Park far better.
Have they repainted all those concrete benches in McHale?
The 'benches' opposite the stand are a disgrace. You cannot see the whole sideline and there's a walkway the whole length of field that blocks the view of people on the benches
http://www.kfmradio.com/news/25062018-1659/kildare-county-board-statement-mayo-match-expected-shortly
So, if Kildare were in Dublin's group in the Super 8s, Dublin would play all but one game in Croke Park.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 05:20:37 PM
http://www.kfmradio.com/news/25062018-1659/kildare-county-board-statement-mayo-match-expected-shortly
G'wan Kildare fair play to them it's Newbridge or nothing!!! f**k the GAA trying to screw counties over for cash the game needs to be in Newbridge!!
If the county board stick to their guns, they'll have the full support of the vast majority of GAA people.
It's time to shout stop.
Dublin are playing all but one game in Croke Park Inc as it is.
Quote from: mup on June 25, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Martin Carney anyone?
Sean Lowry anyone?
You do realise that Seán Lowry went for work reasons.
From Offaly to Mayo. With the ESB methinks. AZ would know more on that one. From the same club.
The obvious compromise is to play it in Tullamore.
Both sides save some face.
Then you have to send Cavan and Tyrone to Enniskillen or somewhere also.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
Was in Semple Stadium on Saturday and it's a kip
Have been to both. Semple Stadium is a much better stadium than MacHale Park. They don't have poles in their stand blocking your view and don't have a bottle neck under the stand when trying to make your way to the toliets and Semple Stadium has perfect playing surface.
On a point of order, there are poles blocking your view in the stand in semple. It's a better stadium that mchale park though
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 05:22:23 PM
So, if Kildare were in Dublin's group in the Super 8s, Dublin would play all but one game in Croke Park.
If Kildare qualified by beating Cork theyou would be due a home game v Dublin.
I wonder where would that be played? ???
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 25, 2018, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
Was in Semple Stadium on Saturday and it's a kip
Have been to both. Semple Stadium is a much better stadium than MacHale Park. They don't have poles in their stand blocking your view and don't have a bottle neck under the stand when trying to make your way to the toliets and Semple Stadium has perfect playing surface.
On a point of order, there are poles blocking your view in the stand in semple. It's a better stadium that mchale park though
We were packed like sardines in the stand. Uncomfortable and impossible to get in or out
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 05:32:49 PM
The obvious compromise is to play it in Tullamore.
Both sides save some face.
Then you have to send Cavan and Tyrone to Enniskillen or somewhere also.
f**k that. It's Croker or nowhere for us. We'll refuse to play if it's NOT in Croke Park. That'll put the hens among the goats.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 05:22:23 PM
So, if Kildare were in Dublin's group in the Super 8s, Dublin would play all but one game in Croke Park.
If Kildare qualified by beating Cork theyou would be due a home game v Dublin.
I wonder where would that be played? ???
Its comical, a neutral game in Croker, a home game in Croker and an away game in Croker.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 25, 2018, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 05:22:23 PM
So, if Kildare were in Dublin's group in the Super 8s, Dublin would play all but one game in Croke Park.
If Kildare qualified by beating Cork theyou would be due a home game v Dublin.
I wonder where would that be played? ???
Its comical, a neutral game in Croker, a home game in Croker and an away game in Croker.
Just set every game for Croker and be done with it!
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 05:11:54 PM
Could they not play the match at Goffs?
With commentary by Aonghus MacAnally.
"Hurricane Higgins kicks the point even though he was hampered by the top cushion. Tremendous cueing, sorry, kicking action."
"Doherty in the pocket, attempts the swerve shot, and it's a goal - that's all down to all the hours of practice back at his home club Jason's."
"And the score at the moment is Mayo one goal and one point, that's one green and one red, to Kildare's no score - a cue ball."
"A foul conceded by Kildare - the white has gone in-off, so that's four points to Mayo."
Well done Kildare, a home game is a home game, don't budge on this one. Money is the only reason for not playing in Newbridge and that should not be a good enough reason for an amateur organization to deprive a team of home field advantage.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 25, 2018, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 05:22:23 PM
So, if Kildare were in Dublin's group in the Super 8s, Dublin would play all but one game in Croke Park.
If Kildare qualified by beating Cork theyou would be due a home game v Dublin.
I wonder where would that be played? ???
Its comical, a neutral game in Croker, a home game in Croker and an away game in Croker.
Cue Zulu! ;D
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 04:39:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 25, 2018, 04:20:11 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 25, 2018, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 25, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
for the last 23 years they have been ubable to host a leinster championship game and now they are moaning and bitching about having a ga me move .
there is only one bad guy here and that the Kildare Gaa family .
seeing as wel live in la la land it is easy to accuse Kildare of financial doping by spending all their money on development and ignored theor facilities not to mention expensive imports like seanie Johnston.
knowing full well that all latge dames would be played in croke plark anyway , now its time to pay the piper
Just as well Mayo live within their means and don't go around the world scrounging and getting interest free loans for the worst €20m+ stadium in the world. Must have missed all whinging and moaning over the Limerick venue too, imagine whinging over a venue!!! And still no All-Ireland's for all their millions spent. No wonder Dublin supporters laugh at bitter Mayo supporters.
Sorry to pull you up on one fact there Dinny but we managed to get a worse deal off Croke park (lower annual payments but higher interest to pay back overall) for our cathedral to architectural design stadium redvelopment!
Where was that stated?
Last years accounts, pretty standard I suppose, Coke Park are just acting like a bank, they took over the 5m loan Mayo Co Board had with Ulster bank and the deal was the period of the overall loan repayment period was extended which reduced the annual payments in reality for Mayo on the day to day running but acually Mayo will pay back more than they would have if they were able to stick to the original agreed term of the loan repayments. I would say this happens all the time in loan re-negotiations on long term debt when the bank is refusing a write down or write off. I have no problem with Croke PArk on this as it was our lot who fucked up the spending on the stand with an amazing 400,000 owed at one stage to the architects who were considering legal action!!!
Had a look at the accounts and I can't see anything on the interest rate?
Sorry I just checked and it was in a circular I was sent from a CB meeting by a man who was trying to garner support for his candiancy for treasurer in 2017. Now I will admit this puts a lot less creedance in what I read from this information but I still stand by that it is not interest free loan,as in all Mayo Co Board are doing is paying back the loan over a longer period of time which leads to smaller annual payments but the full loan plus interest will have to be paid back albeit over a longer period.
I'd have my doubts he was telling the truth but perhaps we'll never know. I agree its certainly not an interest free loan but I'd be surprised if it wasn't a more favourable interest rate then their previous deal.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 05:17:27 PM
Sportsjoe are saying there are reports tha Kildare Co Board initially agreed to Croke Park and then did a u turn but who credible these reports are who knows?
Well something went down why the f**k didn't they come out straight away and say no.
Can't we just give Kildare CB a load of money to shut up and be done with it. That's how things get done don't ya know.
Quote from: Mac2 on June 25, 2018, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 05:17:27 PM
Sportsjoe are saying there are reports tha Kildare Co Board initially agreed to Croke Park and then did a u turn but who credible these reports are who knows?
Well something went down why the f**k didn't they come out straight away and say no.
If the tickets are already on sale, then it will be a complete cluster*uck if it is changed.
So therefore it most likely wont be, The KCB are obviously not like the KGB, who would never have agreed to this.
Will Kildare hold firm and do what is right or will they bow down when a likely carrot is dangled in front of them. Shameful decision to open up Croke Park in Saturday and I hope Kildare stick to their guns.
In fairness, they love carrots.
As much as I was looking forward to the double header I think Kildare are absolutely right. No other sporting organisation in the world would have the audacity to take pre-determined home advantage from two teams.
Sure who in their right mind in Kildare would want a game on their door-step when you can travel to Croke Park and pay €5 more and be able to sit any where in the venue. Who needs convenience? Who needs an atmosphere? Who needs cheaper tickets? We want Sky! The GAA are of the people. The People come first!
http://kildaregaa.ie/statement-all-ireland-sfc-series-round-3-fixture/
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 25, 2018, 06:41:10 PM
http://kildaregaa.ie/statement-all-ireland-sfc-series-round-3-fixture/
Could not access.
Does the statement begin with "Ta an athas orm"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgjeguSWkAAoU0n.jpg)
Well said by the county board, it would have been a disgrace otherwise. I still can't see the GAA backing down though, hopefully Mayo do the classy thing and call for the game to be played in Newbridge.
QuoteKildare GAA would like to explain the chain of events that has led to the
CCCC announcing Croke Park as the venue for the All-Ireland SFC Round 3
Qualifier between Kildare and Mayo, and to state that the team will not be
in attendance, as the game should be taking place at our county grounds, St
Conleth's Park.
It was with great delight that we greeted a home fixture in this morning's
draw, a fantastic reward for the loyal supporters who have travelled to
Owenbeg and Longford for the team's recent Qualifier successes. It is an
attractive proposition too for team management, players, sponsors, the
business people of Newbridge and surrounding areas, and all of the
stakeholders of Kildare GAA.
As soon as the draw was made, we were in contact with
Newbridge Garda Síochána immediately and they were happy with the
fixture going ahead, their only request being that it throw in at 7pm,
given the influx of people to the area due to the Irish Derby taking place
at Curragh Racecourse at 5.15pm.
Having received the backing of the Gardai, we sent an email to the
CCCC advising them that we would have no difficulty in hosting the fixture
as an all-ticket affair and were already putting plans in place to do so.
We informed the CCCC of the advice surrounding the 7pm throw-in, and
advised them that the Management Committee of Kildare GAA, on behalf of our
loyal supporters, respectfully expected that the CCCC would fix the game
for Saturday, June 30th, at St Conleth's Park for 7pm and we had no issue with adhering to the criteria for St Conleths Park as previously agreed with the National Facilities/Health & Safety committee
We were asked to provide an alternative venue, an invitation we declined
because Kildare are entitled to the home venue as per the draw, and were in the
position to do so within all criteria of health and safety, and to the
satisfaction of An Garda Síochána.
The Management Committee of Kildare GAA has been in constant contact with
Kildare Senior Football Manager Cian O'Neill. We are all on the same page,
adamant that the game take place in Newbridge as the draw dictates.
When notification arrived that the game was fixed for Croke Park, we
informed the CCC that we would not be fulfilling that fixture, because it
was a home draw for St Conleth's Park.
This decision does not make sense to us, as we have already hosted
attractive Division 1 fixtures this year.
There is also the concern as to the implications were Kildare to qualify
for the so-called Super 8s series. The major selling point of this format
was that each team would have one major home fixture. Does this now mean
that we in Kildare would be denied that right, were we to qualify?
We are not attempting to do anything that contravenes health and safety
regulations. We can cater for the
fixture St Conleth's Park and it will not cause undue congestion in Newbridge.
As the management committee of Kildare GAA, we have a responsibility to our
team management, players, supporters, sponsors, businesses and every stakeholder
in Kildare GAA to insist that we be allowed fulfil the home fixture we are
entitled to.
And we are making it clear that we will not play this game in Croke Park.
St Conleth's Park is perfectly capable of hosting the tie on an all-ticket
basis, Newbridge is perfectly capable of dealing with the number of
supporters that will attend.
The Management Committee of Kildare GAA.
Great stuff.
Now don't back down!
Well done Kildare.
So that's a walkover for the Rhubarbs then.....
No. Longford back in. Game in Pearse Park ;D
The ball is in Mayo's court now to do the sporting thing and make it known they want it played in Newbridge too.
I hope our Co Board come out and say they have no problem with the game going ahead in Newbridge although past experience leads me to believe they will keep their mouths shut unfortunately!
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 06:57:17 PM
The ball is in Mayo's court now to do the sporting thing and make it known they want it played in Newbridge too.
Is it f**k this is between Kildare and GAA HQ.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 06:57:17 PM
The ball is in Mayo's court now to do the sporting thing and make it known they want it played in Newbridge too.
Oh would you f**k off to stolen sheep for a while and stop annoying the rest of us like a buzzing bluebottle.
The ball is in HQs court - this is not a mess of Mayo's making and they should keep shtum.
Quote from: Mac2 on June 25, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 06:57:17 PM
The ball is in Mayo's court now to do the sporting thing and make it known they want it played in Newbridge too.
Is it f**k this between Kildare and GAA HQ.
This effects any county that doesn't want to be pushed around on venues by Croke Park. Limerick 2014 springs to mind..
Kildare have right on their side.
There is no way in hell Mayo will be given a walkover.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
I hope our Co Board come out and say they have no problem with the game going ahead in Newbridge although past experience leads me to believe they will keep their mouths shut unfortunately!
Why would our CB wade into it!? if we're asked to play in Newbridge, at that point we say "no problem". no point getting involved in this mess
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 06:59:45 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on June 25, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 06:57:17 PM
The ball is in Mayo's court now to do the sporting thing and make it known they want it played in Newbridge too.
Is it f**k this between Kildare and GAA HQ.
This effects any county that doesn't want to be pushed around on venues by Croke Park. Limerick 2015 springs to mind..
Whats the story with Limerick 2015?
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
I hope our Co Board come out and say they have no problem with the game going ahead in Newbridge although past experience leads me to believe they will keep their mouths shut unfortunately!
Why would our CB wade into it!? if we're asked to play in Newbridge, at that point we say "no problem". no point getting involved in this mess
Your lack of brotherhood or concern for anything outside the immediate interests of the Mayo football team is astounding.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
I hope our Co Board come out and say they have no problem with the game going ahead in Newbridge although past experience leads me to believe they will keep their mouths shut unfortunately!
Why would our CB wade into it!? if we're asked to play in Newbridge, at that point we say "no problem". no point getting involved in this mess
Your lack of brotherhood or concern for anything outside the immediate interests of the Mayo football team is astounding.
spouting more shite. I have said that Kildare are entitled to home advantage. their battle is with HQ, not Mayo. mayo didn't decide the venue.
where was your brotherhood earlier when you told Kildare to suck it up and play in Croker you clown.
Good discussion on Newstalk now.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
I hope our Co Board come out and say they have no problem with the game going ahead in Newbridge although past experience leads me to believe they will keep their mouths shut unfortunately!
Why would our CB wade into it!? if we're asked to play in Newbridge, at that point we say "no problem". no point getting involved in this mess
Your lack of brotherhood or concern for anything outside the immediate interests of the Mayo football team is astounding.
spouting more shite. I have said that Kildare are entitled to home advantage. their battle is with HQ, not Mayo. mayo didn't decide the venue.
where was your brotherhood earlier when you told Kildare to suck it up and play in Croker you clown.
Now that our caustic neighbor has fully joined the fray, I will be surprised if this does not reach 20 pages today.
Would that be a record for day one of a new topic.
So Kildare were given the option to submit an alternative ground but refused? That'll make things difficult for them
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-insists-kildare-will-forfeit-mayo-qualifier-if-they-don-t-play-at-croke-park-1.3543393
The GAA will not be budging on their decision to fix Saturday's round three All-Ireland football qualifier between Kildare and Mayo for Croke Park - despite the clear threat from Kildare that they will not be showing up.
Kildare were entitled to home advantage, having been drawn first from the bowl earlier on Monday morning, but a meeting of the GAA's Central Competitions Control Committee (CCCC) later decided that the capacity at St Conleth's Park in Newbridge was not suitable for "health and safety" reasons.
Kildare officials had already aired their discontent and have now indicated they are not willing to play the game anywhere other than at home in Newbridge.
"We are making it clear that we will not play this game in Croke Park," said a Kildare statement. "St Conleth's Park is perfectly capable of hosting the tie on an all-ticket basis, Newbridge is perfectly capable of dealing with the number of supporters that will attend."
However the GAA are no longer open to discussion on the matter, and the game will be played in Croke Park as double-header with the meeting of Cavan and Tyrone.
"The game has been fixed for 7pm in Croke Park, and that is not going to change under any circumstances", Feargal McGill, the GAA's director of games administration, told The Irish Times.
"We fully appreciate where Kildare are coming from. We don't take home venue off of a team lightly. However, health and safety has to come first. It's that simple. The last thing we wanted to do was take this out of Newbridge, but we simply had no choice. There is no room for manoeuvre, not when it comes to health and safety. If Kildare don't show up in Croke Park on Saturday at 7.0pm the game will be awarded to Mayo."
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
I hope our Co Board come out and say they have no problem with the game going ahead in Newbridge although past experience leads me to believe they will keep their mouths shut unfortunately!
Why would our CB wade into it!? if we're asked to play in Newbridge, at that point we say "no problem". no point getting involved in this mess
If anything to head off the usual suite the Gaa will come out with that we had to think of all the Mayo fans that wouldn't get a seat if the game was on in Newbridge when in fact most Mayo fans while they would prefer a bigger ground have no problem with Kildare keeping their home advantage although I can see why our CB might want to say out of this.
Reports of Kildare flags being flown tonight in Gaza
I presume Mayowestros will say nothing and turn up to play wherever the game wherever is officially fixed for.
Hard to see HQ rowing back as it would be a serious loss of authority and face.
However it looks like they fell over themselves in the rush to get some more games into Croker.
Serious mess they've created.
Anyone know why the Leitrim game is at half feckin 2 on a Saturday?
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 07:22:13 PM
Reports of Kildare flags being flown tonight in Gaza
LOL
Does anyone get the feeling that Croke Park just refixed the game thinking Kildare would say nothing and go along with it?
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 07:20:45 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-insists-kildare-will-forfeit-mayo-qualifier-if-they-don-t-play-at-croke-park-1.3543393
The GAA will not be budging on their decision to fix Saturday's round three All-Ireland football qualifier between Kildare and Mayo for Croke Park - despite the clear threat from Kildare that they will not be showing up.
Kildare were entitled to home advantage, having been drawn first from the bowl earlier on Monday morning, but a meeting of the GAA's Central Competitions Control Committee (CCCC) later decided that the capacity at St Conleth's Park in Newbridge was not suitable for "health and safety" reasons.
Kildare officials had already aired their discontent and have now indicated they are not willing to play the game anywhere other than at home in Newbridge.
"We are making it clear that we will not play this game in Croke Park," said a Kildare statement. "St Conleth's Park is perfectly capable of hosting the tie on an all-ticket basis, Newbridge is perfectly capable of dealing with the number of supporters that will attend."
However the GAA are no longer open to discussion on the matter, and the game will be played in Croke Park as double-header with the meeting of Cavan and Tyrone.
"The game has been fixed for 7pm in Croke Park, and that is not going to change under any circumstances", Feargal McGill, the GAA's director of games administration, told The Irish Times.
"We fully appreciate where Kildare are coming from. We don't take home venue off of a team lightly. However, health and safety has to come first. It's that simple. The last thing we wanted to do was take this out of Newbridge, but we simply had no choice. There is no room for manoeuvre, not when it comes to health and safety. If Kildare don't show up in Croke Park on Saturday at 7.0pm the game will be awarded to Mayo."
When all other excuses dry up..
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
I hope our Co Board come out and say they have no problem with the game going ahead in Newbridge although past experience leads me to believe they will keep their mouths shut unfortunately!
Why would our CB wade into it!? if we're asked to play in Newbridge, at that point we say "no problem". no point getting involved in this mess
Your lack of brotherhood or concern for anything outside the immediate interests of the Mayo football team is astounding.
spouting more shite. I have said that Kildare are entitled to home advantage. their battle is with HQ, not Mayo. mayo didn't decide the venue.
where was your brotherhood earlier when you told Kildare to suck it up and play in Croker you clown.
Err, there's a big difference between a Newbridge that can't acommodate all the tickets that the GAA are contractually obliged to provide and a Newbridge that has the capacity to do just that.
Don't think you're getting off the hook that easily - Mayo are the other team involved in this game and if they row in behind Kildare there's little HQ can do. If they say nothing their silence speaks volumes to their motives. The idea that it has nothing to do with ye is farcical.
Enjoy the advantage you think staying out of it gifts you but you haven't a leg to stand on the next time you try to complain about a venue choice in the future.
The view on Off The Ball is that the primary consideration for HQ here is SKY and the H&S excuse doesn't hold water.
The Gardai are happy for it to go ahead in Newbridge.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 07:18:14 PM
Good discussion on Newstalk now.
They are talking some shi*e, one of them reckon 15k Kildare supporters will show up to Croke Park.
Quote from: Mac2 on June 25, 2018, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 07:20:45 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-insists-kildare-will-forfeit-mayo-qualifier-if-they-don-t-play-at-croke-park-1.3543393
The GAA will not be budging on their decision to fix Saturday's round three All-Ireland football qualifier between Kildare and Mayo for Croke Park - despite the clear threat from Kildare that they will not be showing up.
Kildare were entitled to home advantage, having been drawn first from the bowl earlier on Monday morning, but a meeting of the GAA's Central Competitions Control Committee (CCCC) later decided that the capacity at St Conleth's Park in Newbridge was not suitable for "health and safety" reasons.
Kildare officials had already aired their discontent and have now indicated they are not willing to play the game anywhere other than at home in Newbridge.
"We are making it clear that we will not play this game in Croke Park," said a Kildare statement. "St Conleth's Park is perfectly capable of hosting the tie on an all-ticket basis, Newbridge is perfectly capable of dealing with the number of supporters that will attend."
However the GAA are no longer open to discussion on the matter, and the game will be played in Croke Park as double-header with the meeting of Cavan and Tyrone.
"The game has been fixed for 7pm in Croke Park, and that is not going to change under any circumstances", Feargal McGill, the GAA's director of games administration, told The Irish Times.
"We fully appreciate where Kildare are coming from. We don't take home venue off of a team lightly. However, health and safety has to come first. It's that simple. The last thing we wanted to do was take this out of Newbridge, but we simply had no choice. There is no room for manoeuvre, not when it comes to health and safety. If Kildare don't show up in Croke Park on Saturday at 7.0pm the game will be awarded to Mayo."
When all other excuses dry up..
Health and safety is the purest shite
That bit was daft alright. ;D
Hopefully Cavan and Tyrone will make similar statements as it stupid that they have to travel to Dublin also. Mayo nned to support Kildres decision. Fair play to Kildare about tims someone stood up to the stupidity of the business men that run the GAA
This could be the story of the summer.
Better than the Jasesing football inanyways.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 07:25:20 PM
Does anyone get the feeling that Croke Park just refixed the game thinking Kildare would say nothing and go along with it?
Of course. Fair fucks to Kildare. Don't give in.
GPA backing Kildare.
https://gaelicplayers.com/WhatsHappening/LatestNews/TabId/86/artmid/421/articleid/593/Default.aspx (https://gaelicplayers.com/WhatsHappening/LatestNews/TabId/86/artmid/421/articleid/593/Default.aspx)
This is good. Fcuk SKY TV
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 07:23:43 PM
Anyone know why the Leitrim game is at half feckin 2 on a Saturday?
You know the GAA want the 'weaker' teams out early.
If kildare dont show up in croker then Mayo should do the same. Health and safety my arshe, make it all ticket for whatever the approved crowd is.
Despicable behavior by the gaa in this instance, without players they are nothing so time to stand together and stick it to them. I hope Mayo do the right thing and stand with Kildare by refusing to play in croker....
Fair play to kildare. Cian o'neill spoke excellently on the news, they deserve a home draw. Hopefully they stick to their guns.
Fair play to Kildare. Hope they stick to their guns
A rest week would do us wonders
I think HQ will have to give in.
This is turning into an almighty shîtshow.
Houl on houl on.....
Rhubarbs turn up in Croker, Cormac Reilly throws in the ball, O'Shea catches it, balloons it up in the air, Reilly gives a free in, Cillian kicks it wide. Nobody from Kildare to kick it out, game abandoned and awarded to the Rhubarbs.
A well rested Mayowestros with their week off draw Ros.....and sure ye know the rest.
Do ye're duty Flour bags and wear them out next Saturday.
As much as Mayo have every right to keep their opinions to themselves it's something they should get out in front of rather than release a statement on Thursday or Friday - which is where this is heading.
Fair play to Kildare, Sky could come out of this badly as well.
The fact that this is giving the two fingers to SKY is a lovely bonus.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 25, 2018, 07:38:57 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 07:25:20 PM
Does anyone get the feeling that Croke Park just refixed the game thinking Kildare would say nothing and go along with it?
Of course. Fair f**ks to Kildare. Don't give in.
+1,
Just pure arrogance from GAA. We had a farce earlier in league when they refixed games postponed on a Sunday to a bank holiday without consulting counties. The GAA is taking it most important stakeholders for granted and this is the latest farce. I would preferred to play wicklow in Aughtrim rather than Portlaoise.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 25, 2018, 07:42:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 07:23:43 PM
Anyone know why the Leitrim game is at half feckin 2 on a Saturday?
You know the GAA want the 'weaker' teams out early.
There is a regatta in Carrick on Shannon.
Go legal and block the whole Championship. If the right restriction is placed on St Conleths, then H and S is not an issue. They're playing up to SKY, pure and simple. So play them at their own game and make them sweat for their 30 pieces. The GAA hierarchy have needed a good shoulder for a long time. Up Laois, but fair play to the Flourbags
The cynic in me says Mayo will keep quiet and turn up at Croker like HQ wants but I would love as a Gaa fan if we came out and said we will see you in Newbridge Sat evening.
One of the few times in my life where I can't choose one side over the other.
Much as I make Kildare right, I can't help feeling that if they had a good team and the full bandwagon behind them, Kildare's players and management would have pushed to play this in Croke to allow the masses to see them.
Also distracted players can't perform as well as focused players and if the game does happen, Mayo will win by a cricket score.
Sitting on the fence is no craic.
Very petulant statement from Fergal McGill.
HQ have painted themselves into a corner.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
A rest week would do us wonders
It would be great to make it through a round with no more injuries!
I dunno.
You'd have lads at home on Saturday clipping hedges etc.
Recipe for disaster.
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 08:01:41 PM
I dunno.
You'd have lads at home on Saturday clipping hedges etc.
Recipe for disaster.
Don't be silly. The Mayo CB is loaded. Every player is provided with someone to the hedge cutting for them!
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
As are most of GAABoard
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
How many of ye went to Longford?
I think this issue has become a bit of a lightning rod for the general level of disaffection with the direction the association is heading in.
An authoritarian Croke Park combined with the perception that SKY are calling the shots now is the perfect storm.
The powers that be need to think very carefully about their next move here.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what difference does the venue make to sky sports?
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 07:23:43 PM
I presume Mayowestros will say nothing and turn up to play wherever the game wherever is officially fixed for.
Hard to see HQ rowing back as it would be a serious loss of authority and face.
However it looks like they fell over themselves in the rush to get some more games into Croker.
Serious mess they've created.
Anyone know why the Leitrim game is at half feckin 2 on a Saturday?
Yeah the timing of the Leitrim game is ridiculous. Carrick on a Saturday afternoon is a bottleneck at the best of times without throwing a big game into the mix. Totally unnecessary.
Fair play to Kildare, about time somebody stood up to the Croke Park mandarins and refused to go along with their agenda. Dig in and give them hell.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 08:04:43 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
How many of ye went to Longford?
I was surrounded by Kildares. I'd say bout 2,000 travelled
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 08:04:43 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
How many of ye went to Longford?
Plenty. Should be more in Newbridge on Saturday night!
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 08:08:36 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what difference does the venue make to sky sports?
Easier for them to cover two games in one location, more professional presentation etc.
Plus, there is no risk of extra-time in the first game disrupting their coverage of the 2nd game.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
As are most of GAABoard
From trawling the various GAA parts of the internet it seem that the vast majority of GAA folk are behind Kildare on this apart from reservoir dubs of course.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 08:04:43 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
How many of ye went to Longford?
Plenty. Should be more in Newbridge on Saturday night!
I think we'll outnumber ye in Croke Park so.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
As are most of GAABoard
+1. Fair play to Kildare.
Wish Laois had done the same when we were made play Dublin in Nowlan Park of all feckin places...
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
If you tolerate this, then your county will be next.
Blaming Sky a complete red herring IMO. While they'd prefer the Croker double bill, they'd have no problem with the games in separate venues. The only proviso they'd ask for would be a delayed throw in for the second game if the first game went to Extra Time.
This is all about money lost for GAA for Newbridge v Croke Park.
Well done Kildare on their stance. Their Super 8 point is well made too and I think the GAA have been mistaken in not dealing with this sooner. Because this very same issue could very well come up in Super 8.
The H&S point is such BS by the GAA given Division 1 games have taken place this year already. Has something happened between then and now to make Newbridge a hazard?? Pure BS.
The one clarification required, that hasn't been addressed by either side, is the capacity for Newbridge. If all season ticket holders can be accommodated then it has to be Newbridge.
One final point is that if this game had been fixed for Newbridge from the outset, then there would have been war about the number of people in Mayo who couldnt get to it and that most of them don't have Sky! And may still go that way if season ticket holders are the only people with tickets and ordinary club members in both counties can't get tickets. May also mean that Mayo get a bigger allocation of tickets, despite being the away team, because they've more ST holders.
A mess! But fair play Cill Dara
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
I think this issue has become a bit of a lightning rod for the general level of disaffection with the direction the association is heading in.
An authoritarian Croke Park combined with the perception that SKY are calling the shots now is the perfect storm.
The powers that be need to think very carefully about their next move here.
Normally in cases like this sides are evenly split but Jinxy is right everyone around the country (bar some mayo fans) is 100% behind kildare. It's fair to say the GAA thought they could just switch the game and Kildare would suck it up. Well done Kildare co board for standing up to the GAA/sky money men and Cian O'Neill was really impressive on the news.
Disappointed in mayo county board/management. If they had any class they would have already come out and said they would happily play the game in newbridge. That would be the right thing to do and really put the pressure on the GAA.
If GAA don't back down and Mayo go to croker sat night I'll go to newbridge. To be there to offer support and also witness history.
Great stuff... They say they wont be playing and then reiterate the point. They can't be much clearer. This nonsense has been going on for far too long
It's actually funny seeing the Dubs fans back Kildare on this
Would be fantastic publicity for Mayo if they could come out and say they back Kildare with this. It's very obvious what way the public opinion is on the issue and I think it would be great for them to show some solidarity.
Not that they have to but turning up in Croker for a walk over would be bad form.
Quote from: dublin7 on June 25, 2018, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
I think this issue has become a bit of a lightning rod for the general level of disaffection with the direction the association is heading in.
An authoritarian Croke Park combined with the perception that SKY are calling the shots now is the perfect storm.
The powers that be need to think very carefully about their next move here.
Normally in cases like this sides are evenly split but Jinxy is right everyone around the country (bar some mayo fans) is 100% behind kildare. It's fair to say the GAA thought they could just switch the game and Kildare would suck it up. Well done Kildare co board for standing up to the GAA/sky money men and Cian O'Neill was really impressive on the news.
Disappointed in mayo county board/management. If they had any class they would have already come out and said they would happily play the game in newbridge. That would be the right thing to do and really put the pressure on the GAA.
If GAA don't back down and Mayo go to croker sat night I'll go to newbridge. To be there to offer support and also witness history.
Were you in Newbridge when the Dubs played Kildare in Croker when it should have been their home game? Another clown.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 08:18:47 PM
It's actually funny seeing the Dubs fans back Kildare on this
It's actually sad that you would use this to try and have a go at Dubs fans.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
I think this issue has become a bit of a lightning rod for the general level of disaffection with the direction the association is heading in.
An authoritarian Croke Park combined with the perception that SKY are calling the shots now is the perfect storm.
The powers that be need to think very carefully about their next move here.
That's it exactly.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
I think a lot of Mayo folk are behind him too! Fair play to Kildare,
Quote from: dublin7 on June 25, 2018, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
I think this issue has become a bit of a lightning rod for the general level of disaffection with the direction the association is heading in.
An authoritarian Croke Park combined with the perception that SKY are calling the shots now is the perfect storm.
The powers that be need to think very carefully about their next move here.
Normally in cases like this sides are evenly split but Jinxy is right everyone around the country (bar some mayo fans) is 100% behind kildare. It's fair to say the GAA thought they could just switch the game and Kildare would suck it up. Well done Kildare co board for standing up to the GAA/sky money men and Cian O'Neill was really impressive on the news.
Disappointed in mayo county board/management. If they had any class they would have already come out and said they would happily play the game in newbridge. That would be the right thing to do and really put the pressure on the GAA.
If GAA don't back down and Mayo go to croker sat night I'll go to newbridge. To be there to offer support and also witness history.
Did the Dublin Co Board back Laois when they were making the same case for playing the dubs in O'Moore Park or Wicklow in Aughrim? If they did fair play to them but if the didn't then you should be just as disappointed in them as you are in the Mayo Co Board!
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
Would be fantastic publicity for Mayo if they could come out and say they back Kildare with this. It's very obvious what way the public opinion is on the issue and I think it would be great for them to show some solidarity.
Not that they have to but turning up in Croker for a walk over would be bad form.
Mayo gain nothing by backing Kildare here.
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
Would be fantastic publicity for Mayo if they could come out and say they back Kildare with this. It's very obvious what way the public opinion is on the issue and I think it would be great for them to show some solidarity.
Not that they have to but turning up in Croker for a walk over would be bad form.
I doubt anyone in Kildare would hold it against them. Mayo are sort of caught in the crossfire here. It's not their fault that Croke Park just assumed KCB would roll over and have their bellies tickled as they did when they gave up home advantage in 2012 in the qualifiers and 2013 in the league.
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
Would be fantastic publicity for Mayo if they could come out and say they back Kildare with this. It's very obvious what way the public opinion is on the issue and I think it would be great for them to show some solidarity.
Not that they have to but turning up in Croker for a walk over would be bad form.
I agree and so do alot of other mayo fans I have been talking to this evening.
It seems to be the done thing to blame SKY for everything in the GAA these days.
I am sure they are well capable of broadcasting two games from two different venues and have already done this in the past and indeed even this season.
So the decision to play the games at Croke Park has nothing to do with them.
Mayo / Tyrone & Cavan have big travelling support (esp when it comes to Croke Park games)
They would pull in a crowd of about 30-35k maybe 40
So the decision is purely based on that I would say.
Plus the majority of teams in Iteland will always jump at a chance to play at Croker - that's what players always tell us.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 08:18:47 PM
It's actually funny seeing the Dubs fans back Kildare on this
Amazingly, Dubs fans or Dublin County Board don't set the fixtures.
I haven't come across a single Dublin fan who didn't think the Wicklow game shouldn't have gone ahead in Aughrim.
Kildare showing great moral courage here in standing up to Corporate HQ.
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#NewbridgeOrNowhere
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 25, 2018, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
I think this issue has become a bit of a lightning rod for the general level of disaffection with the direction the association is heading in.
An authoritarian Croke Park combined with the perception that SKY are calling the shots now is the perfect storm.
The powers that be need to think very carefully about their next move here.
Normally in cases like this sides are evenly split but Jinxy is right everyone around the country (bar some mayo fans) is 100% behind kildare. It's fair to say the GAA thought they could just switch the game and Kildare would suck it up. Well done Kildare co board for standing up to the GAA/sky money men and Cian O'Neill was really impressive on the news.
Disappointed in mayo county board/management. If they had any class they would have already come out and said they would happily play the game in newbridge. That would be the right thing to do and really put the pressure on the GAA.
If GAA don't back down and Mayo go to croker sat night I'll go to newbridge. To be there to offer support and also witness history.
Were you in Newbridge when the Dubs played Kildare in Croker when it should have been their home game? Another clown.
Comparing apples and oranges. Everyone New the rules this morning for the draw. First team out gets home advantage. The president of the GAA John Horan was the one who pulled out Kildare at home. I didn't hear the draw but I'd be certain it was announced as the tie of the round and kildare would have home advantage. Did he question the venue at any stage then.
For once the dubs can't be blamed for this despite mayo fans best efforts
The GAA leadership have form when it comes to shafting fans in order to please Sky. This wouldn't be the first time.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 25, 2018, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
Would be fantastic publicity for Mayo if they could come out and say they back Kildare with this. It's very obvious what way the public opinion is on the issue and I think it would be great for them to show some solidarity.
Not that they have to but turning up in Croker for a walk over would be bad form.
Mayo gain nothing by backing Kildare here.
Maybe not this weekend but down the road I think we do.
Quote from: dublin7 on June 25, 2018, 08:21:30 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 08:18:47 PM
It's actually funny seeing the Dubs fans back Kildare on this
It's actually sad that you would use this to try and have a go at Dubs fans.
Yes, the Dublin Clowns have joined in!
Do ye not realise ye are part of the Problem!
Why it is this way?
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
Would be fantastic publicity for Mayo if they could come out and say they back Kildare with this. It's very obvious what way the public opinion is on the issue and I think it would be great for them to show some solidarity.
Not that they have to but turning up in Croker for a walk over would be bad form.
I agree and so do alot of other mayo fans I have been talking too this evening.
When a county decides to go all hari kari on it, the last thing you need to do is be caught holding the sword.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 25, 2018, 08:24:29 PM
Mayo gain nothing by backing Kildare here.
Nothing but goodwill from the non Mayo GAA public which while nothing huge it's no harm either.
Also would strenthen their hand should the same thing happen to them in the future.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:24:43 PM
I doubt anyone in Kildare would hold it against them. Mayo are sort of caught in the crossfire here. It's not their fault that Croke Park just assumed KCB would roll over and have their bellies tickled as they did when they gave up home advantage in 2012 in the qualifiers and 2013 in the league.
No I don't think anyone could blame Mayo for anything as the fact is they're not at fault in any way and Cian O'neill articulated that very well on the news there.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 08:25:11 PM
I agree and so do alot of other mayo fans I have been talking too this evening.
Same from the Mayo fans I've spoken to today.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
Would be fantastic publicity for Mayo if they could come out and say they back Kildare with this. It's very obvious what way the public opinion is on the issue and I think it would be great for them to show some solidarity.
Not that they have to but turning up in Croker for a walk over would be bad form.
I agree and so do alot of other mayo fans I have been talking too this evening.
We really should show some moral courage on this. At least a statement that we are willing to play in Newbridge. We don't want a walkover and CP should have kept their mouths shut. But that's what you get when you allow our Association to be run by bureaucrats and money men.
An AI won and getting a walkover along the way would be devalued.
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 08:26:53 PM
The GAA leadership have form when it comes to shafting fans in order to please Sky. This wouldn't be the first time.
Blaming Sky is nonsense, and just letting GAA HQ off the hook.
This is all about ticket revenue for the GAA, Sky will cover it no matter where it's held.
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 08:18:47 PM
It's actually funny seeing the Dubs fans back Kildare on this
Amazingly, Dubs fans or Dublin County Board don't set the fixtures.
I haven't come across a single Dublin fan who didn't think the Wicklow game shouldn't have gone ahead in Aughrim.
If we backed Kildare on this maybe it might trigger a rethink from the GAA how they deal with these fixtures don't you think Hound?
Quote from: Mayo Mick on June 25, 2018, 08:30:45 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
Would be fantastic publicity for Mayo if they could come out and say they back Kildare with this. It's very obvious what way the public opinion is on the issue and I think it would be great for them to show some solidarity.
Not that they have to but turning up in Croker for a walk over would be bad form.
I agree and so do alot of other mayo fans I have been talking too this evening.
We really should show some moral courage on this. At least a statement that we are willing to play in Newbridge. We don't want a walkover and CP should have kept their mouths shut. But that's what you get when you allow our Association to be run by bureaucrats and money men.
An AI won and getting a walkover along the way would be devalued.
It would be a minor footnote tbh and nothing more. Everyone expects you to beat Kildare where-ever you play them and Mayo winning one would be so huge that this would barely get a mention.
Quote from: dublin7 on June 25, 2018, 08:26:42 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 25, 2018, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
I think this issue has become a bit of a lightning rod for the general level of disaffection with the direction the association is heading in.
An authoritarian Croke Park combined with the perception that SKY are calling the shots now is the perfect storm.
The powers that be need to think very carefully about their next move here.
Normally in cases like this sides are evenly split but Jinxy is right everyone around the country (bar some mayo fans) is 100% behind kildare. It's fair to say the GAA thought they could just switch the game and Kildare would suck it up. Well done Kildare co board for standing up to the GAA/sky money men and Cian O'Neill was really impressive on the news.
Disappointed in mayo county board/management. If they had any class they would have already come out and said they would happily play the game in newbridge. That would be the right thing to do and really put the pressure on the GAA.
If GAA don't back down and Mayo go to croker sat night I'll go to newbridge. To be there to offer support and also witness history.
Were you in Newbridge when the Dubs played Kildare in Croker when it should have been their home game? Another clown.
Comparing apples and oranges. Everyone New the rules this morning for the draw. First team out gets home advantage. The president of the GAA John Horan was the one who pulled out Kildare at home. I didn't hear the draw but I'd be certain it was announced as the tie of the round and kildare would have home advantage. Did he question the venue at any stage then.
For once the dubs can't be blamed for this despite mayo fans best efforts
who tried to blame the Dubs? You're trying to cast Mayo as the villains in this. Any opportunity... You'll find a way to blame Keegan or David Brady yet.
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 08:26:53 PM
The GAA leadership have form when it comes to shafting fans in order to please Sky. This wouldn't be the first time.
Blaming Sky is nonsense, and just letting GAA HQ off the hook.
This is all about ticket revenue for the GAA, Sky will cover it no matter where it's held.
The economics for Sky are far greater covering the game in Croker than Newbridge!
I seem to do a fair bit of defending the gaa to people who would be non-gaa over the years but f**k me this decision is beyond defence.
It's disgusting to be honest.
I really hope kildare stick to their guns whether that means them being thrown out for failing to fulfill a fixture or not. Something similar happened in tipp in 2004, this was our own county board who refused to postpone a hurling match (2 players on the football panel affected) played days before our footballers were due to meet fermanagh in a qualifier, our team made themselves unavailable for the fixture and fermanagh got a walkover....this is what nobody wanted most especially the players but they had to stand up and be counted.
One thing i really hope comes of this is kildare now stick to this and the GAA make allowances for games where venues are deemed too small for the game, the 3 dublin games on nuetral venues the last 3 years all drew small crowds, if kildare were to draw dublin in the 2nd round of the championship next year i would be disappointed if they didnt try to bring the game to newbridge aswell. This is a game that doesnt have any bearing on mayo supporters attendance records when/if it comes around to all ireland final tickets.
P.S...haha i didnt think i took that long to type this but 25 new replies since i started, id imagine this will be lost amongst the rest up here!!
HQ: "Where do you want to play your home games, lads?"
Kildare: "Newbridge"
Cavan: "Brewster Park"
HQ: "Croke Park it is!"
Tickets still for sale on tickets.ie ;D
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 08:18:47 PM
It's actually funny seeing the Dubs fans back Kildare on this
Amazingly, Dubs fans or Dublin County Board don't set the fixtures.
I haven't come across a single Dublin fan who didn't think the Wicklow game shouldn't have gone ahead in Aughrim.
If we backed Kildare on this maybe it might trigger a rethink from the GAA how they deal with these fixtures don't you think Hound?
But why?
Every fixture has to be looked at in isolation for its potential to draw a crowd.
All that will happen if mayo gets involved is a carefully worded motion from CP that prevents another county from being able to complain should it happen to them, which will be quietly ushered in this winter.
Can we all stop saying Sky is to blame?
Now that we've had outbreaks of megaphone diplomacy can either side realistically row back?
As it stands well have Cavan/ Tyrone on a near empty Croke Park, then at 7 we'll have one team on the pitch and the game will be abandoned when there's no one to kick the ball out.
That'll look good live on Sky.
Meanwhile the Kildare team will turn up in Newbridge for their last time together in 2018.
A fine mess.....
Is there a wise oul lad out there somewhere who can sort it all out?
Well done Kildare. Doing a McStay on it. Interesting to see how this plays out
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 08:26:53 PM
The GAA leadership have form when it comes to shafting fans in order to please Sky. This wouldn't be the first time.
Blaming Sky is nonsense, and just letting GAA HQ off the hook.
This is all about ticket revenue for the GAA, Sky will cover it no matter where it's held.
Exactly, sky regularly cover games from two grounds.
A lot of diplomacy went on behind the scenes after McStay's calculated outburst.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 08:18:47 PM
It's actually funny seeing the Dubs fans back Kildare on this
Amazingly, Dubs fans or Dublin County Board don't set the fixtures.
I haven't come across a single Dublin fan who didn't think the Wicklow game shouldn't have gone ahead in Aughrim.
If we backed Kildare on this maybe it might trigger a rethink from the GAA how they deal with these fixtures don't you think Hound?
I think Kildare are 100% in the right if Newbridge can hold season ticket holders.
I think the only games in Croke Park should be the Leinster final, the Super 8 games between provincial champions, any Dublin home games where Dublin choose Croke Park over Parnell Park, the AI semi finals (replays up for discussion) and the AI final.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 08:36:20 PM
Can we all stop saying Sky is to blame?
Now that we've had outbreaks of megaphone diplomacy can either side realistically row back?
As it stands well have Cavan/ Tyrone on a near empty Croke Park, then at 7 we'll have one team on the pitch and the game will be abandoned when there's no one to kick the ball out.
That'll look good live on Sky.
Meanwhile the Kildare team will turn up in Newbridge for their last time together in 2018.
A fine mess.....
Is there a wise oul lad out there somewhere who can sort it all out?
(http://www.offtheball.com/content/001/images/podcasts/000026/98791_player_podcast_series_1437768955_98790_656x500.jpg)
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 08:08:36 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what difference does the venue make to sky sports?
None. Its a red herring. Sky go "up the country" all the time.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 08:36:20 PM
Can we all stop saying Sky is to blame?
Now that we've had outbreaks of megaphone diplomacy can either side realistically row back?
As it stands well have Cavan/ Tyrone on a near empty Croke Park, then at 7 we'll have one team on the pitch and the game will be abandoned when there's no one to kick the ball out.
That'll look good live on Sky.
Meanwhile the Kildare team will turn up in Newbridge for their last time together in 2018.
A fine mess.....
Is there a wise oul lad out there somewhere who can sort it all out?
No wise ould head needed. Just a bit of humility from CP - something I know they don't have much experience of. No Mayo person wants to get into next round in this way.
;D
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
I think Kildare are 100% in the right if Newbridge can hold season ticket holders.
I think the only games in Croke Park should be the Leinster final, the Super 8 games between provincial champions, any Dublin home games where Dublin choose Croke Park over Parnell Park, the AI semi finals (replays up for discussion) and the AI final.
Newbridge can hold the season ticket holders twice over. Have heard Mayo have 3700 or 5000. Official capacity of Newbridge is either 10000 or 8500 (as reported by RTE). It was reduced at one stage to 6200 but when they played Tyrone in 2013 at that capacity there was plenty of room left and there has been more small improvements to facilities since then. Toilets are adequate now too.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 08:40:34 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 08:08:36 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what difference does the venue make to sky sports?
None. Its a red herring. Sky go "up the country" all the time.
Is it cheaper to for SKY to use the ready made facilities for two games in Croker.
Or is it cheaper to send a camera crew to Newbridge and another Camera crew to Breffini.
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 25, 2018, 08:25:17 PM
It seems to be the done thing to blame SKY for everything in the GAA these days.
I am sure they are well capable of broadcasting two games from two different venues and have already done this in the past and indeed even this season.
So the decision to play the games at Croke Park has nothing to do with them.
Mayo / Tyrone & Cavan have big travelling support (esp when it comes to Croke Park games)
They would pull in a crowd of about 30-35k maybe 40
So the decision is purely based on that I would say.
Plus the majority of teams in Iteland will always jump at a chance to play at Croker - that's what players always tell us.
Well, they are a shower of c***ts to be fair.
It sounds to me to be to do with the fact that newbridge can only host it at 7 due to the horse racing earlier? Maybe that time won't facilitate a double header.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 25, 2018, 08:46:41 PM
It sounds to me to be to do with the fact that newbridge can only host it at 7 due to the horse racing earlier? Maybe that time won't facilitate a double header.
But the double header is fixed for 5pm and 7pm
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 08:08:36 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what difference does the venue make to sky sports?
Major logistical savings in a ground set up for cameras in fixed positions in Croke Park and only attending one ground rather than two. No need to hire lifts at either end of the ground. All about the money for Sky. No need to transport the sky pod or set up a studio. All facilities are in place permanently in Croke Park.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
If we backed Kildare on this maybe it might trigger a rethink from the GAA how they deal with these fixtures don't you think Hound?
BTW, I never said Mayo should do anything on this. Would be a great gesture if they did, but it's clearly best for Mayo if this game is in Croker, so no reason for them to deliberately disadvantage themselves.
Just make the same noises Dublin make when in similar circumstances, i.e. "we'll play wherever we're told to play"
Is the capacity of Newbridge really 6200?
How can a county like Kildare only have such a stadium with such a small capacity?
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 25, 2018, 08:51:29 PM
Is the capacity of Newbridge really 6200?
How can a county like Kildare only have such a stadium with such a small capacity?
It is not 6200.
This is not just a Kildare issue, it's the people striking back against the corporate direction the GAA has taken. It could be the straw that broke the camels back and fair dues to Kildare County Board and Cian O'Neill who spoke very well on RTÉ news earlier. An unlikely hero for GAA people across the country today. I think they will find that most rational GAA people are fully behind them.
The statement released by Fergal McGill that they are not budging on the matter just shows how out of touch the hierarchy in Croke Park truly are. Supporters are increasingly being treated as commodities and it's a simple case of Croke Park trying to milk the cash cow for all its worth with no thought given to fairness.
Mayo have leverage here.
They should get onto HQ and say, "Listen, sort this out asap or we'll publicly announce we'll only fulfill the fixture if it is played in Newbridge."
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 08:18:47 PM
It's actually funny seeing the Dubs fans back Kildare on this
Amazingly, Dubs fans or Dublin County Board don't set the fixtures.
I haven't come across a single Dublin fan who didn't think the Wicklow game shouldn't have gone ahead in Aughrim.
If we backed Kildare on this maybe it might trigger a rethink from the GAA how they deal with these fixtures don't you think Hound?
I think Kildare are 100% in the right if Newbridge can hold season ticket holders.
I think the only games in Croke Park should be the Leinster final, the Super 8 games between provincial champions, any Dublin home games where Dublin choose Croke Park over Parnell Park, the AI semi finals (replays up for discussion) and the AI final.
Sorry Hound my wording was too vague I meant if we as in the Mayo Co Board backed Kildare not you and me if that makes any sense?
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:49:12 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
If we backed Kildare on this maybe it might trigger a rethink from the GAA how they deal with these fixtures don't you think Hound?
BTW, I never said Mayo should do anything on this. Would be a great gesture if they did, but it's clearly best for Mayo if this game is in Croker, so no reason for them to deliberately disadvantage themselves.
Just make the same noises Dublin make when in similar circumstances, i.e. "we'll play wherever we're told to play"
Yeah you are probably right but it feels like the thing to do is back Kildare on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWsBvmANLxg
I can't remember the official attendance at this game but am almost certain their was over 13000 at it in 2001. Probably a slight H &S concern to replicate it but 10000 would not be a problem.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0625/973158-oneill-backs-croker-boycott-well-be-in-newbridge/
Can't believe the uproar about this. If Kildare get their way and Mayo beat them in Newbridge, how stupid do they look? Its ridiculous, no-one grows up wanting to play in Newbridge. Its CP that everyone pretends is their back yard. Much ado about nothing.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 25, 2018, 08:51:29 PM
Is the capacity of Newbridge really 6200?
How can a county like Kildare only have such a stadium with such a small capacity?
Spending large sums on outside players and managers. Bought 2 Leinster titles in 1998 and 2000.Neglected pitch development
Quote from: Therealdonald on June 25, 2018, 08:57:00 PM
Can't believe the uproar about this. If Kildare get their way and Mayo beat them in Newbridge, how stupid do they look? Its ridiculous, no-one grows up wanting to play in Newbridge. Its CP that everyone pretends is their back yard. Much ado about nothing.
Poor WUM attempt. Try again
Quote from: Therealdonald on June 25, 2018, 08:57:00 PM
Can't believe the uproar about this. If Kildare get their way and Mayo beat them in Newbridge, how stupid do they look? Its ridiculous, no-one grows up wanting to play in Newbridge. Its CP that everyone pretends is their back yard. Much ado about nothing.
Are you Dublin in disguise?
Quote from: Therealdonald on June 25, 2018, 08:57:00 PM
Can't believe the uproar about this. If Kildare get their way and Mayo beat them in Newbridge, how stupid do they look? Its ridiculous, no-one grows up wanting to play in Newbridge. Its CP that everyone pretends is their back yard. Much ado about nothing.
Talk about missing the point entirely. Mayo are favorites to win the match so they won't look stupid if they lose the match, most people expect that will happen anyway. It's admirable that they are able to stick to their guns on a point of principle.
I wonder would it have been moved to Croker if Mayo had come out of the hat first?
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2018, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 25, 2018, 08:21:30 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 08:18:47 PM
It's actually funny seeing the Dubs fans back Kildare on this
It's actually sad that you would use this to try and have a go at Dubs fans.
Yes, the Dublin Clowns have joined in!
Do ye not realise ye are part of the Problem!
Why it is this way?
Well said Bunker
Don't feed the wums, lads.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 25, 2018, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 25, 2018, 08:51:29 PM
Is the capacity of Newbridge really 6200?
How can a county like Kildare only have such a stadium with such a small capacity?
It is not 6200.
Well, check this out...........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_stadiums (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_stadiums)
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 09:02:20 PM
I wonder would it have been moved to Croker if Mayo had come out of the hat first?
Well no, very unlikely given that MacHale Park can hold over 30k
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 25, 2018, 09:03:24 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 25, 2018, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 25, 2018, 08:51:29 PM
Is the capacity of Newbridge really 6200?
How can a county like Kildare only have such a stadium with such a small capacity?
It is not 6200.
Well, check this out...........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_stadiums (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_stadiums)
Irrefutable evidence. Close the thread. ::)
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 09:02:20 PM
I wonder would it have been moved to Croker if Mayo had come out of the hat first?
Ha I think we all know the answer to that!!
Seriously though does anyone know what grounds the CCCC can give apart from the vague H&S bullshit or the what about old Mayo fans who need a seat shite for not allowing Newbridge hold the game?
Irish Mirror states 9020 as capacity, RTE states 8500. I've been told by my clubs county board delegate that it is 10000. It is a lot more than 6200 anyway.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 09:05:04 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 25, 2018, 09:02:20 PM
I wonder would it have been moved to Croker if Mayo had come out of the hat first?
Well no, very unlikely given that MacHale Park can hold over 30k
That's what I thought. So FTB's argument that Sky are to blame is pure nonsense. If Mayo had been drawn at home, then the cameras would have gone to MacHale and Brewster
Presentation of the games is another factor.
Castlebar has good camera positions.
Games in Newbridge always look like the cameraman is standing on a milk-crate.
Looks like HQ saw that Cavan couldn't play in Breffni and thought "ah ha Croker double header with Kildare/Mayo €€€€€€€"
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 09:16:23 PM
Looks like HQ saw that Cavan couldn't play in Breffni and thought "ah ha Croker double header with Kildare/Mayo €€€€€€€"
Seems cavan wanted it in enniskillen but gaa said crike park double header and they agreed
The ground formerly had a capacity of 13,000, but following a health and safety audit in 2011, this was reduced to 8,000 and subsequently to 6,200
This is an embarrassment for Kildare GAA to have such a pitiful ground
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 25, 2018, 09:18:44 PM
The ground formerly had a capacity of 13,000, but following a health and safety audit in 2011, this was reduced to 8,000 and subsequently to 6,200
This is an embarrassment for Kildare GAA to have such a pitiful ground
It feels like you've made 6200 posts on this point
Did anyone see no. 47 on the list? 😁
A world-class review of Kildare's county ground
We have spoken before about the issue of Kildare's home ground in Newbridge, St Conleth's Park. The lack of facilities there have forced Kildare onto the road all summer and while it is so far, so good enough is enough for Leinster Leader writer Tommy Callaghan. He devoted a few paragraphs to the state of St Conleth's, and they make for great reading.
"The dressing rooms are about as big enough for a couple of five-a-side teams; the referee's area is overcrowded once the linesmen join the match official and as for the press box, Jesus, don't get me started ...
"For a county that boasts one of the biggest followings in the country it is nothing short of disgraceful that we cannot hold a home game that is likely to attract anything close to 8,000...
"St Conleth's Park remains, in this writer's view, an absolute ideal location in the centre of town if it can get not just a makeover but a complete and utter revamp...
"If the refusal of the CCCC to allow Kildare play Limerick in round three of the qualifiers does nothing else, it might, and I emphasise might, just help to concentrate the minds and finally put an end to the embarrassment that Kildare GAA's number one ground is. The time for a splash of paint, fresh soap and new 'smellies' in the loos to keep the natives on side is well and truly gone."
https://www.joe.ie/sport/the-best-thing-ever-written-about-a-kildare-gaa-ground-38451 (https://www.joe.ie/sport/the-best-thing-ever-written-about-a-kildare-gaa-ground-38451)
Attendance is certified for 10k as per Croke Parks own H&S guidelines.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/financial-woes-may-force-kildare-gaa-to-cut-teams-310441.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/financial-woes-may-force-kildare-gaa-to-cut-teams-310441.html)
Very proud of Cian O'Neill this evening. Spoke for the entire Kildare GAA community.
If we have to give a walkover so be it. Someone has to say enough is enough.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 25, 2018, 09:03:24 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 25, 2018, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 25, 2018, 08:51:29 PM
Is the capacity of Newbridge really 6200?
How can a county like Kildare only have such a stadium with such a small capacity?
It is not 6200.
Well, check this out...........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_stadiums (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_stadiums)
Several of those numbers are aspirational and have not been subject to any modern day H & S audits. O'Moore Park, Portleix wouldn't get certified for anything near 27k with the limited access to the terrace for example.
The Casement Park figure looks optimistic.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 25, 2018, 09:24:02 PM
A world-class review of Kildare's county ground
We have spoken before about the issue of Kildare's home ground in Newbridge, St Conleth's Park. The lack of facilities there have forced Kildare onto the road all summer and while it is so far, so good enough is enough for Leinster Leader writer Tommy Callaghan. He devoted a few paragraphs to the state of St Conleth's, and they make for great reading.
"The dressing rooms are about as big enough for a couple of five-a-side teams; the referee's area is overcrowded once the linesmen join the match official and as for the press box, Jesus, don't get me started ...
"For a county that boasts one of the biggest followings in the country it is nothing short of disgraceful that we cannot hold a home game that is likely to attract anything close to 8,000...
"St Conleth's Park remains, in this writer's view, an absolute ideal location in the centre of town if it can get not just a makeover but a complete and utter revamp...
"If the refusal of the CCCC to allow Kildare play Limerick in round three of the qualifiers does nothing else, it might, and I emphasise might, just help to concentrate the minds and finally put an end to the embarrassment that Kildare GAA's number one ground is. The time for a splash of paint, fresh soap and new 'smellies' in the loos to keep the natives on side is well and truly gone."
https://www.joe.ie/sport/the-best-thing-ever-written-about-a-kildare-gaa-ground-38451 (https://www.joe.ie/sport/the-best-thing-ever-written-about-a-kildare-gaa-ground-38451)
If it's suitable to host a Div 1 league game it's suitable to hold a qualifier game
*unless it was made clear to Kildare ahead of the championship it wasn't
The greatest display of Kildare defiance since Shackleton sailed to South Georgia.
I simply don't buy the health & safety argument, it's a red herring to deflect from the real reason which comes down to revenue and 'product' presentation.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 08:06:48 PM
I think this issue has become a bit of a lightning rod for the general level of disaffection with the direction the association is heading in.
An authoritarian Croke Park combined with the perception that SKY are calling the shots now is the perfect storm.
The powers that be need to think very carefully about their next move here.
RTE this morning said the match would be on in newbridge,
Mayo will walk all over Kildare in Croke Park. That's not fair.
The GAA leadership have had problems balancing the needs of fans, players and third parties for a while
Eg
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2014/0401/606068-oneill-denies-comments-were-insulting/
"Paraic Duffy and I are as conservative and traditional as you will get in the GAA. We are looking at a package here that will satisfy the broad group of people that we are trying to satisfy.
"If we want to concentrate on the number of games that are going to go (from free-to-air), there are five extra games that are going to be televised this year.
"Compared to last year, they are only nine games, not 14, that will be exclusively with Sky. Some people are saying they think it's time the thing was shaken up and those people are going to be happy.
"Those that want to constantly refer to those that won't get to see those games will harp on and quite frankly you couldn't please everybody anyway and that's the nature of it."
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:24:59 PM
Attendance is certified for 10k as per Croke Parks own H&S guidelines.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/financial-woes-may-force-kildare-gaa-to-cut-teams-310441.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/financial-woes-may-force-kildare-gaa-to-cut-teams-310441.html)
Very proud of Cian O'Neill this evening. Spoke for the entire Kildare GAA community.
If we have to give a walkover so be it. Someone has to say enough is enough.
+1. Dublin and the GAA heirarchy have dined out on the paying customers through Croke Park gates for long enough. We pay for Dublin players not to have to do a days proper work and the top brass to feed at the trough every year.
Quote from: under the bar on June 25, 2018, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:24:59 PM
Attendance is certified for 10k as per Croke Parks own H&S guidelines.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/financial-woes-may-force-kildare-gaa-to-cut-teams-310441.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/financial-woes-may-force-kildare-gaa-to-cut-teams-310441.html)
Very proud of Cian O'Neill this evening. Spoke for the entire Kildare GAA community.
If we have to give a walkover so be it. Someone has to say enough is enough.
+1. Dublin and the GAA heirarchy have dined out on the paying customers through Croke Park gates for long enough. We pay for Dublin players not to have to do a days proper work and the top brass to feed at the trough every year.
Seriously though I hear Dublin players don't work thing all the time but can anyone give me a specific example of this? I know Kevin McMenamin runs his own company so at least one of them must have a real job. Philly Mac has his own gym same as Andy Moran. Doesn't Cian O'Sullivan work for PWC?
Blaming sky for this is way out of line - some real morons out there....
Blame the cp moron who tried to steamroll Kildare..
I think Croke Park is a problem as well. The revamp was great but it takes an awful lot of money to feed it.
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 09:55:45 PM
I think Croke Park is a problem as well. The revamp was great but it takes an awful lot of money to feed it.
This is the problem. Its a white elephant that is unnecessary for 95% of games.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 09:55:45 PM
I think Croke Park is a problem as well. The revamp was great but it takes an awful lot of money to feed it.
This is the problem. Its a white elephant that is unnecessary for 95% of games.
The debt has already been paid off. Seafoideen behind the times as usual.
The GAA are greedy but it's got feck all to do with the one world class stadium they have.
Kildare should agree to play the game in Croker and then just carry on down North Circular road beeping the horn on the bus.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 09:55:45 PM
I think Croke Park is a problem as well. The revamp was great but it takes an awful lot of money to feed it.
This is the problem. Its a white elephant that is unnecessary for 95% of games.
The debt has already been paid off. Seafoideen behind the times as usual.
The GAA are greedy but it's got feck all to do with the one world class stadium they have.
That made me chuckle...your dreaming fella of course its got to do with Croke Park...filling her to the brim to get the few extra euro that wouldn't otherwise be got...wise up chap!
Anyone who thinks that Sky's needs weren't considered needs to take their heads out of the sand. Of course they don't ultimately set the fixtures but when they pump millions into GAA coffers it's only normal that their needs be considered when setting fixtures and scheduling.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 09:55:45 PM
I think Croke Park is a problem as well. The revamp was great but it takes an awful lot of money to feed it.
This is the problem. Its a white elephant that is unnecessary for 95% of games.
The debt has already been paid off. Seafoideen behind the times as usual.
The GAA are greedy but it's got feck all to do with the one world class stadium they have.
CP has maintenance costs. It has employees who need work. It's not about debt. It's about prestige and squeezing as much revenue as possible out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hms_GdvOKZY
Quote from: yellowcard on June 25, 2018, 10:13:55 PM
Anyone who thinks that Sky's needs weren't considered needs to take their heads out of the sand. Of course they don't ultimately set the fixtures but when they pump millions into GAA coffers it's only normal that their needs be considered when setting fixtures and scheduling.
Sad to say it but your right.
Ah kildare. Always doing right by the gaa, apart from that one time. Anyway I'm going to enjoy watching this play out. God knows I've nothing else to look forward to this week.
OTB Kildare v the GAA standoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEGRHD7wX88
Quote from: Itchy on June 25, 2018, 10:28:39 PM
Ah kildare. Always doing right by the gaa, apart from that one time. Anyway I'm going to enjoy watching this play out. God knows I've nothing else to look forward to this week.
Tyrone are no great shakes, Itchy.
Sure they needed a dodgy ref to beat us.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 09:48:06 PM
Quote from: under the bar on June 25, 2018, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:24:59 PM
Attendance is certified for 10k as per Croke Parks own H&S guidelines.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/financial-woes-may-force-kildare-gaa-to-cut-teams-310441.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/financial-woes-may-force-kildare-gaa-to-cut-teams-310441.html)
Very proud of Cian O'Neill this evening. Spoke for the entire Kildare GAA community.
If we have to give a walkover so be it. Someone has to say enough is enough.
+1. Dublin and the GAA heirarchy have dined out on the paying customers through Croke Park gates for long enough. We pay for Dublin players not to have to do a days proper work and the top brass to feed at the trough every year.
Seriously though I hear Dublin players don't work thing all the time but can anyone give me a specific example of this? I know Kevin McMenamin runs his own company so at least one of them must have a real job. Philly Mac has his own gym same as Andy Moran. Doesn't Cian O'Sullivan work for PWC?
Bernard Brogan is part owner of the Pillo Hotel in Ashbourne. (I'm told it's a family concern.) Ciaran Kilkenny, Clucko and Michael Darragh are teachers and I don't know a single one who doesn't have a job of some sort.
Ya should give credit where it's due.
Praying Kildare don't take a backhander. They'd be fond of the lucre down there... ho hum
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 09:55:45 PM
I think Croke Park is a problem as well. The revamp was great but it takes an awful lot of money to feed it.
This is the problem. Its a white elephant that is unnecessary for 95% of games.
The debt has already been paid off. Seafoideen behind the times as usual.
The GAA are greedy but it's got feck all to do with the one world class stadium they have.
CP has maintenance costs. It has employees who need work. It's not about debt. It's about prestige and squeezing as much revenue as possible out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hms_GdvOKZY
Uh, the vast majority of them are only paid and working on match days. If there's no match on Jimmy who serves the burgers isn't getting paid. Don't turn this in yet another socialist thing.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:54:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 09:55:45 PM
I think Croke Park is a problem as well. The revamp was great but it takes an awful lot of money to feed it.
This is the problem. Its a white elephant that is unnecessary for 95% of games.
The debt has already been paid off. Seafoideen behind the times as usual.
The GAA are greedy but it's got feck all to do with the one world class stadium they have.
CP has maintenance costs. It has employees who need work. It's not about debt. It's about prestige and squeezing as much revenue as possible out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hms_GdvOKZY
Uh, the vast majority of them are only paid and working on match days. If there's no match on Jimmy who serves the burgers isn't getting paid. Don't turn this in yet another socialist thing.
your unique mix of ignorance and arrogance is wearing, Syf
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/it-costs-13700-a-day-just-to-run-croke-park-26034420.html
Calling Rossfan
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:54:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 09:55:45 PM
I think Croke Park is a problem as well. The revamp was great but it takes an awful lot of money to feed it.
This is the problem. Its a white elephant that is unnecessary for 95% of games.
The debt has already been paid off. Seafoideen behind the times as usual.
The GAA are greedy but it's got feck all to do with the one world class stadium they have.
CP has maintenance costs. It has employees who need work. It's not about debt. It's about prestige and squeezing as much revenue as possible out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hms_GdvOKZY
Uh, the vast majority of them are only paid and working on match days. If there's no match on Jimmy who serves the burgers isn't getting paid. Don't turn this in yet another socialist thing.
The heats getting to you fella! Sometimes better to sleep on these things ;D
This board is precious. Some of you have managed to find a way to blame the Dublin team and players for this.
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 10:56:29 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:54:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 09:55:45 PM
I think Croke Park is a problem as well. The revamp was great but it takes an awful lot of money to feed it.
This is the problem. Its a white elephant that is unnecessary for 95% of games.
The debt has already been paid off. Seafoideen behind the times as usual.
The GAA are greedy but it's got feck all to do with the one world class stadium they have.
CP has maintenance costs. It has employees who need work. It's not about debt. It's about prestige and squeezing as much revenue as possible out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hms_GdvOKZY
Uh, the vast majority of them are only paid and working on match days. If there's no match on Jimmy who serves the burgers isn't getting paid. Don't turn this in yet another socialist thing.
your unique mix of ignorance and arrogance is wearing, Syf
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/it-costs-13700-a-day-just-to-run-croke-park-26034420.html
Calling Rossfan
You must have been Googling furiously if the best you could come up with is a barely relevant article from 16 years ago. Do you actually think it doesn't most much more to 'run' Croke Park on a match day than it does when all it's doing is bringing tourists up to the Skywalk, which was my point? Like c'mon, you didn't think you could a pull a fast one on this did you?
I wonder who will do the negotiating .
Have Kildare not given up home advantage willingly for league games against the Dubs in recent years? They can't pick & choose when it suits them to play in Croke Park.
Hard to see the GAA rowing back now, likely tickets have been distributed & printed to 4 county boards already & need to be given out to clubs 2mro night for distribution
Quote from: sambostar on June 25, 2018, 11:13:47 PM
Have Kildare not given up home advantage willingly for league games against the Dubs in recent years? They can't pick & choose when it suits them to play in Croke Park.
Hard to see the GAA rowing back now, likely tickets have been distributed & printed to 4 county boards already & need to be given out to clubs 2mro night for distribution
Why can't they pick and choose?
Quote from: sambostar on June 25, 2018, 11:13:47 PM
Have Kildare not given up home advantage willingly for league games against the Dubs in recent years? They can't pick & choose when it suits them to play in Croke Park.
Hard to see the GAA rowing back now, likely tickets have been distributed & printed to 4 county boards already & need to be given out to clubs 2mro night for distribution
Why the hell wouldn't they be able to pick and choose when they have home advantage?
Bernard Flynn not impressed with Cian.
@bernardflynn15
OK let's call a spade a spade ,and anyone who really knows down deep the way really good teams and managers work .....would ask the question tonight " WHAT IN GODs NAME WAS CIAN O NEIL DOING ON TV TONIGHT" #eyeofftheball
What's he calling a spade? Or is he digging a hole for himself?
Im fully behind Kildare here btw but Im finding this is great entertainment altogether.... when was the last DNF at county level.
The list of people to blame is hilarious
Sky
The Dubs
The suits
who else can we blame for it that I dont like...?
Brexit?
Isrealis?
Derry?
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 11:21:34 PM
Bernard Flynn not impressed with Cian.
@bernardflynn15
OK let's call a spade a spade ,and anyone who really knows down deep the way really good teams and managers work .....would ask the question tonight " WHAT IN GODs NAME WAS CIAN O NEIL DOING ON TV TONIGHT" #eyeofftheball
This can go straight in the 'Mayo aren't winning All-Irelands because Aidan O'Shea is signing too many autographs for kids after matches' category of Flynnisms.
I presume it's only a matter of time before the legal lads print out the Round 3 rules from the GAA website and slap an injunction on HQ for trying to change the rules.
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 11:25:18 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 11:21:34 PM
Bernard Flynn not impressed with Cian.
@bernardflynn15
OK let's call a spade a spade ,and anyone who really knows down deep the way really good teams and managers work .....would ask the question tonight " WHAT IN GODs NAME WAS CIAN O NEIL DOING ON TV TONIGHT" #eyeofftheball
This can go straight in the 'Mayo aren't winning All-Irelands because Aidan O'Shea is signing too many autographs for kids after matches' category of Flynnisms.
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Seems to me Kildare are biting their nose to spite their face in this whole affair ;D
Tickets still on sale for double fixture in Croke Park if anyone is interested? ;D
What happens if neither team shows up?
Have to give a bye to one of the provincial finalists into the Super 8?
Sky have washed their hands of it and hung HQ out to dry as well . . .
"Sky has absolutely no influence on the selection of venues for live televised matches"
Over to you GAA HQ!
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 25, 2018, 09:51:18 PM
Blaming sky for this is way out of line - some real morons out there....
Blame the cp moron who tried to steamroll Kildare..
Unless I'm mistaken, SKY pick the games they will cover after the draw is made.
Do you honestly think they just said, "We'll take Cavan v Tyrone and Kildare v Mayo" and hung up the phone?
Strange that the two games they picked were both moved to Croke Park.
Kildare should throw a curve ball and call for the game to be played in Castlebar, Mayo can hardly win a game there anyway 😂
Could not give a hoot if HQ have maintenance costs.
The rules of the qualifiers are clearly stated - Kildare are to have home advantage. Less than 24hrs from being given home advantage GAA turn around and try to take it away from them! There are no specified minimum number of fans that have to attend games so they should be allowed to play at home.
I don't like the idea that 4 out of the 8 teams in the draw get the advantage of playing a game at Croke Park. If Croke Park wanted the extra money then they should have thought about this beforehand.
The local communities in Cavan and Kildare will be losing out from the game moving.
Fair play to Kildare for sticking to their guns. It's doesnt sound like Kildare are going to back peddle in this and rightly so. I hope this is the end of it so Kildare can focus on preparing for their game this weekend...it is becoming an unwanted distraction.
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 25, 2018, 11:24:04 PM
Im fully behind Kildare here btw but Im finding this is great entertainment altogether.... when was the last DNF at county level.
The list of people to blame is hilarious
Sky
The Dubs
The suits
who else can we blame for it that I dont like...?
Brexit?
Isrealis?
Derry?
I'm surprised that Tyrone haven't been blamed saying as apparently every time there's something controversial in the GAA Tyrone seem to be blamed.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 11:21:34 PM
Bernard Flynn not impressed with Cian.
@bernardflynn15
OK let's call a spade a spade ,and anyone who really knows down deep the way really good teams and managers work .....would ask the question tonight " WHAT IN GODs NAME WAS CIAN O NEIL DOING ON TV TONIGHT" #eyeofftheball
I like Bernard Flynn and listened to him on 2FM earlier where his opinion seemed to flip flop about 3 or 4 times during the course of the interview. He's a sensationalist and I wouldn't take him too seriously as he sometimes goes off on tangents but I'd say he'd be good craic on a night out!
Quote from: Solo_run on June 25, 2018, 11:57:52 PM
Could not give a hoot if HQ have maintenance costs.
The rules of the qualifiers are clearly stated - Kildare are to have home advantage. Less than 24hrs from being given home advantage GAA turn around and try to take it away from them! There are no specified minimum number of fans that have to attend games so they should be allowed to play at home.
I don't like the idea that 4 out of the 8 teams in the draw get the advantage of playing a game at Croke Park. If Croke Park wanted the extra money then they should have thought about this beforehand.
The local communities in Cavan and Kildare will be losing out from the game moving.
Fair play to Kildare for sticking to their guns. It's doesnt sound like Kildare are going to back peddle in this and rightly so.
Good Post!
I see Willie Joe is making an embarrassment of himself as usual on MayoGAABlog.
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 11:59:48 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 25, 2018, 11:24:04 PM
Im fully behind Kildare here btw but Im finding this is great entertainment altogether.... when was the last DNF at county level.
The list of people to blame is hilarious
Sky
The Dubs
The suits
who else can we blame for it that I dont like...?
Brexit?
Isrealis?
Derry?
I'm surprised that Tyrone haven't been blamed saying as apparently every time there's something controversial in the GAA Tyrone seem to be blamed.
I blame them a bit.
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 25, 2018, 11:24:04 PM
Im fully behind Kildare here btw but Im finding this is great entertainment altogether.... when was the last DNF at county level.
Tipperary against Fermanagh in 2004, I'd say.
Before HQ take it down...
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The draw for Round 3 of the All-Ireland SFC Qualifiers will be broadcast live on Morning Ireland on RTE Radio 1 just after 8.30am next Monday.
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All-Ireland SFC Round 3 Qualifier draw
Friday 22 June 2018
The Round 3 qualifier draw of the 2018 All-Ireland senior football championship will take place next Monday morning.
It will be broadcast live on Morning Ireland on RTE Radio 1 just after 8.30am and also carried live on gaa.ie
The Round 3 draw involves all the winners from Round 2 draw against each other.
The first team drawn will have home advantage - exception: a Division 3 or 4 team from the current year's Allianz league drawn against a Div 1 or 2 team will have home advantage.
The draw is subject to avoidance of repeat pairings, where feasible. Possible Repeat Pairings include Monaghan v Tyrone, Tipperary v Waterford, Carlow v Kildare, Carlow v Louth.
The match venues and times will be confirmed by the CCCC on Monday afternoon with the fixtures scheduled for weekend of June 30th & July 1st. All matches will be required to finish on the day under the new Championship protocols.
Teams Involved:
* Tipperary/Mayo
* Waterford/Monaghan
* Cavan/Down
* Carlow/Tyrone
* Offaly/Clare
* Longford/Kildare
* Sligo/Armagh
* Leitrim/Louth
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Fair play to Kildare. There 100% right to try and keep there home advantage.If Newbridge can accomodate both sets of season ticket holders then Newbridge it should be.They earned it the rules are the rules.Croke park HQ are to blame for this fiasco.Using the excuse of Mayo fans that might not get a ticket is pathetic they didnt give a shite about us when we were sent packing to Limerick.A statement from the Mayo co board to support Kildare would be nice but i wont hold my breath waiting for it.
Christy Moore is penning a song about this I reckon.
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:11:13 AM
Fair play to Kildare. There 100% right to try and keep there home advantage.If Newbridge can accomodate both sets of season ticket holders then Newbridge it should be.They earned it the rules are the rules.Croke park HQ are to blame for this fiasco.Using the excuse of Mayo fans that might not get a ticket is pathetic they didnt give a shite about us when we were sent packing to Limerick.A statement from the Mayo co board to support Kildare would be nice but i wont hold my breath waiting for it.
It's a very bad look for Mayo to remain silent on this.
Quote from: highorlow on June 26, 2018, 12:12:34 AM
Christy Moore is penning a song about this I reckon.
Im an ordinary fan nothing special nothing grand 8)
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:04:26 AM
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 11:59:48 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 25, 2018, 11:24:04 PM
Im fully behind Kildare here btw but Im finding this is great entertainment altogether.... when was the last DNF at county level.
The list of people to blame is hilarious
Sky
The Dubs
The suits
who else can we blame for it that I dont like...?
Brexit?
Isrealis?
Derry?
I'm surprised that Tyrone haven't been blamed saying as apparently every time there's something controversial in the GAA Tyrone seem to be blamed.
I blame them a bit.
Looks like your lot could be next in cross hairs of the torch wielders thanks to the Bernard the Brows
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:11:13 AM
Fair play to Kildare. There 100% right to try and keep there home advantage.If Newbridge can accomodate both sets of season ticket holders then Newbridge it should be.They earned it the rules are the rules.Croke park HQ are to blame for this fiasco.Using the excuse of Mayo fans that might not get a ticket is pathetic they didnt give a shite about us when we were sent packing to Limerick.A statement from the Mayo co board to support Kildare would be nice but i wont hold my breath waiting for it.
It's a very bad look for Mayo to remain silent on this.
What would you suggest??? Our county board are gobshites
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:14:07 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 26, 2018, 12:12:34 AM
Christy Moore is penning a song about this I reckon.
Im an ordinary fan nothing special nothing grand 8)
I could never to Croke Park no matter how I wanted to
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 11:59:48 PM
I'm surprised that Tyrone haven't been blamed saying as apparently every time there's something controversial in the GAA Tyrone seem to be blamed.
Sean Cavanagh
@SeanCavanagh14
2h2 hours ago
Playing Kildare in Rd 3 of the 2013 qualifiers in Newbridge was one of the most competitive games of my career. I truly believe common sense will prevail here. Hopefully sooner than later.
Fair play to him. Ciaran Whelan on the other hand is tweeting about socks and clothes.
#NewbridgeOrNowhere
Fair play to the horsey lads.
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 26, 2018, 12:16:39 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:14:07 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 26, 2018, 12:12:34 AM
Christy Moore is penning a song about this I reckon.
Im an ordinary fan nothing special nothing grand 8)
I could never to Croke Park no matter how I wanted to
;D ;D good one
Kildare will go the legal route, slap an injunction on Croke Park and the whole gaa schedule is up in the air, thats the only way they will be listened to, if its not solved by lunchtime tomorrow the fun starts.
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 12:21:59 AM
Kildare will go the legal route, slap an injunction on Croke Park and the whole gaa schedule is up in the air, thats the only way they will be listened to, if its not solved by lunchtime tomorrow the fun starts.
Can they do that? As Kildare CB is a unit of the GAA can they actually get an injunction against themselves?
Quote from: yellowcard on June 25, 2018, 09:37:20 PM
I simply don't buy the health & safety argument, it's a red herring to deflect from the real reason which comes down to revenue and 'product' presentation.
Kildare v Mayo in a jam-packed Newbridge would be a far superior "product" to Kildare v Mayo in a quarter-full Croke Park.
As would be Cavan v Tyrone in Enniskillen compared to playing that game in Croke Park.
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:11:13 AM
Fair play to Kildare. There 100% right to try and keep there home advantage.If Newbridge can accomodate both sets of season ticket holders then Newbridge it should be.They earned it the rules are the rules.Croke park HQ are to blame for this fiasco.Using the excuse of Mayo fans that might not get a ticket is pathetic they didnt give a shite about us when we were sent packing to Limerick.A statement from the Mayo co board to support Kildare would be nice but i wont hold my breath waiting for it.
It's a very bad look for Mayo to remain silent on this.
What would you suggest??? Our county board are gobshites
Just going to bat for what's right for a change, taking stock of the bigger picture and the shallow grave the GAA is lurching ever closer to and saying enough is enough.
Let's be real, no matter where it's played this is likely to be a straightforward win for Mayo anyways.
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:26:44 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:11:13 AM
Fair play to Kildare. There 100% right to try and keep there home advantage.If Newbridge can accomodate both sets of season ticket holders then Newbridge it should be.They earned it the rules are the rules.Croke park HQ are to blame for this fiasco.Using the excuse of Mayo fans that might not get a ticket is pathetic they didnt give a shite about us when we were sent packing to Limerick.A statement from the Mayo co board to support Kildare would be nice but i wont hold my breath waiting for it.
It's a very bad look for Mayo to remain silent on this.
What would you suggest??? Our county board are gobshites
Just going to bat for what's right for a change, taking stock of the bigger picture and the shallow grave the GAA is lurching ever closer to and saying enough is enough.
Let's be real, no matter where it's played this is likely to be a straightforward win for Mayo anyways.
We both know theres a very slim chance of that happening.The majority of mayo fans ive spoken with today are fully behind Kildare and dont want Mayo to accept a walkover if it comes to that.
Just read Willie Joe's piece on the blog. I may have read the last paragraph wrong, and apologies if I've misinterpreted, but did he actually just refer to Cian O'Neill and Kildare people as travellers?
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:26:44 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:11:13 AM
Fair play to Kildare. There 100% right to try and keep there home advantage.If Newbridge can accomodate both sets of season ticket holders then Newbridge it should be.They earned it the rules are the rules.Croke park HQ are to blame for this fiasco.Using the excuse of Mayo fans that might not get a ticket is pathetic they didnt give a shite about us when we were sent packing to Limerick.A statement from the Mayo co board to support Kildare would be nice but i wont hold my breath waiting for it.
It's a very bad look for Mayo to remain silent on this.
What would you suggest??? Our county board are gobshites
Just going to bat for what's right for a change, taking stock of the bigger picture and the shallow grave the GAA is lurching ever closer to and saying enough is enough.
Let's be real, no matter where it's played this is likely to be a straightforward win for Mayo anyways.
I don't see this as an easy win for Mayo. They have lost their starting midfield, playing 2 weeks in a row, Tipp had them on the ropes. Kildare were in div 1 don't forget. I expect a very close game.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 12:23:44 AM
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 12:21:59 AM
Kildare will go the legal route, slap an injunction on Croke Park and the whole gaa schedule is up in the air, thats the only way they will be listened to, if its not solved by lunchtime tomorrow the fun starts.
Can they do that? As Kildare CB is a unit of the GAA can they actually get an injunction against themselves?
Being part of something or a unit of a bigger entity does not disqualify you from having issues with the overall administration of that organisation especially if they break their own rules and this adversely effects the part you have responsibility for.
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:26:44 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:11:13 AM
Fair play to Kildare. There 100% right to try and keep there home advantage.If Newbridge can accomodate both sets of season ticket holders then Newbridge it should be.They earned it the rules are the rules.Croke park HQ are to blame for this fiasco.Using the excuse of Mayo fans that might not get a ticket is pathetic they didnt give a shite about us when we were sent packing to Limerick.A statement from the Mayo co board to support Kildare would be nice but i wont hold my breath waiting for it.
It's a very bad look for Mayo to remain silent on this.
What would you suggest??? Our county board are gobshites
Just going to bat for what's right for a change, taking stock of the bigger picture and the shallow grave the GAA is lurching ever closer to and saying enough is enough.
Let's be real, no matter where it's played this is likely to be a straightforward win for Mayo anyways.
Unfortunately Sy our county board tend to keep quiet even when our own team is affected so don't expect them to change anytime soon!!
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 26, 2018, 12:42:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:26:44 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: mayoman dan on June 26, 2018, 12:11:13 AM
Fair play to Kildare. There 100% right to try and keep there home advantage.If Newbridge can accomodate both sets of season ticket holders then Newbridge it should be.They earned it the rules are the rules.Croke park HQ are to blame for this fiasco.Using the excuse of Mayo fans that might not get a ticket is pathetic they didnt give a shite about us when we were sent packing to Limerick.A statement from the Mayo co board to support Kildare would be nice but i wont hold my breath waiting for it.
It's a very bad look for Mayo to remain silent on this.
What would you suggest??? Our county board are gobshites
Just going to bat for what's right for a change, taking stock of the bigger picture and the shallow grave the GAA is lurching ever closer to and saying enough is enough.
Let's be real, no matter where it's played this is likely to be a straightforward win for Mayo anyways.
I don't see this as an easy win for Mayo. They have lost their starting midfield, playing 2 weeks in a row, Tipp had them on the ropes. Kildare were in div 1 don't forget. I expect a very close game.
Carlow hammered Kildare a few weeks ago. Mayo are vulnerable in the Quailifers but not to a team short on belief, which is exactly what Kildare are. This could be tight for 55 or even 65 minutes and in the end Mayo will do their usual trick of winning it, likely by around two scores. Tipp are a better team than Kildare IMHO.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 12:41:44 AM
Just read Willie Joe's piece on the blog. I may have read the last paragraph wrong, and apologies if I've misinterpreted, but did he actually just refer to Cian O'Neill and Kildare people as travellers?
Fellow travellers, a derogatory term for people with communist sympathies.
The hot weather has helped cause this revolutionary outburst from the stricken GAA proletariat.
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 12:44:16 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 12:23:44 AM
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 12:21:59 AM
Kildare will go the legal route, slap an injunction on Croke Park and the whole gaa schedule is up in the air, thats the only way they will be listened to, if its not solved by lunchtime tomorrow the fun starts.
Can they do that? As Kildare CB is a unit of the GAA can they actually get an injunction against themselves?
Being part of something or a unit of a bigger entity does not disqualify you from having issues with the overall administration of that organisation especially if they break their own rules and this adversely effects the part you have responsibility for.
I understand that. I'm asking if legally one unit can take an injunction against another unit of the same organisation.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 26, 2018, 12:46:02 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 12:41:44 AM
Just read Willie Joe's piece on the blog. I may have read the last paragraph wrong, and apologies if I've misinterpreted, but did he actually just refer to Cian O'Neill and Kildare people as travellers?
Fellow travellers, a derogatory term for people with communist sympathies.
The hot weather has helped cause this revolutionary outburst from the stricken GAA proletariat.
Read his comments on that article. It makes anything in the OP seem tame.
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:48:09 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 26, 2018, 12:46:02 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 12:41:44 AM
Just read Willie Joe's piece on the blog. I may have read the last paragraph wrong, and apologies if I've misinterpreted, but did he actually just refer to Cian O'Neill and Kildare people as travellers?
Fellow travellers, a derogatory term for people with communist sympathies.
The hot weather has helped cause this revolutionary outburst from the stricken GAA proletariat.
Read his comments on that article. It makes anything in the OP seem tame.
Amnt seeing anything from him, what was he saying?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 12:41:44 AM
Just read Willie Joe's piece on the blog. I may have read the last paragraph wrong, and apologies if I've misinterpreted, but did he actually just refer to Cian O'Neill and Kildare people as travellers?
Jesus Christ first Cillian O'Connor and now poor Willie Joe!! Have you never heard the term fellow travellers?
Let me put it in a sentence for you, when it comes to Cillian O'Connor's status as a marquee forward yourself and say Syferus would be fellow travellers!!
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 12:53:01 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:48:09 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 26, 2018, 12:46:02 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 12:41:44 AM
Just read Willie Joe's piece on the blog. I may have read the last paragraph wrong, and apologies if I've misinterpreted, but did he actually just refer to Cian O'Neill and Kildare people as travellers?
Fellow travellers, a derogatory term for people with communist sympathies.
The hot weather has helped cause this revolutionary outburst from the stricken GAA proletariat.
Read his comments on that article. It makes anything in the OP seem tame.
Amnt seeing anything from him, what was he saying?
He's basically blaming Kildare and saying Croke Park are fully justified doing this, in the most obnoxious why possible. This was long after all the details came out. Not just a doing a Pontious Pilate on it, but actively going to bat for the money grabbers.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 26, 2018, 12:46:02 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 12:41:44 AM
Just read Willie Joe's piece on the blog. I may have read the last paragraph wrong, and apologies if I've misinterpreted, but did he actually just refer to Cian O'Neill and Kildare people as travellers?
Fellow travellers, a derogatory term for people with communist sympathies.
The hot weather has helped cause this revolutionary outburst from the stricken GAA proletariat.
Good man I like that, much better than my attempt at an explanation!!
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 01:03:06 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 26, 2018, 12:46:02 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 12:41:44 AM
Just read Willie Joe's piece on the blog. I may have read the last paragraph wrong, and apologies if I've misinterpreted, but did he actually just refer to Cian O'Neill and Kildare people as travellers?
Fellow travellers, a derogatory term for people with communist sympathies.
The hot weather has helped cause this revolutionary outburst from the stricken GAA proletariat.
Good man I like that, much better than my attempt at an explanation!!
A bit of socialism is exactly what the GAA need
No fan of the WillieJoe Blog but for anybody to say he is calling Kildare people travelers is crazy.He has an opinion on the whole shambles and thats all it is and he does make some fair points about the Kildare county board that a lot of people do not like around here.For me the game should be played in Newbridge but trying to say the Mayo county board should get involved in the mess is very unfair.Also just wondering if Syferus could take a break from this thread for the rest of the week and let the adults discuss the ins and outs of this debacle
Quote from: yellowcard on June 25, 2018, 11:59:53 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 11:21:34 PM
Bernard Flynn not impressed with Cian.
@bernardflynn15
OK let's call a spade a spade ,and anyone who really knows down deep the way really good teams and managers work .....would ask the question tonight " WHAT IN GODs NAME WAS CIAN O NEIL DOING ON TV TONIGHT" #eyeofftheball
I like Bernard Flynn and listened to him on 2FM earlier where his opinion seemed to flip flop about 3 or 4 times during the course of the interview. He's a sensationalist and I wouldn't take him too seriously as he sometimes goes off on tangents but I'd say he'd be good craic on a night out!
Sensationalist my arse, he is stupid.
The flip flopping is par for the course.
I am surprised he was able to spell o Neill's name correctly,
Oh wait he didn't ;D ;D ;D ;D shocker
It's quite late 😂 so I as I've said I probably misread it
Quote from: maigheo on June 26, 2018, 01:12:49 AM
No fan of the WillieJoe Blog but for anybody to say he is calling Kildare people travelers is crazy.He has an opinion on the whole shambles and thats all it is and he does make some fair points about the Kildare county board that a lot of people do not like around here.For me the game should be played in Newbridge but trying to say the Mayo county board should get involved in the mess is very unfair.Also just wondering if Syferus could take a break from this thread for the rest of the week and let the adults discuss the ins and outs of this debacle
You sit here and defend Willie Joe and have the neck to talk about adults discussing this debacle ::)
Syferus would you ever f-ck off and do not ruin another thread with your waffle.
Quote from: maigheo on June 26, 2018, 02:45:55 AM
Syferus would you ever f-ck off and do not ruin another thread with your waffle.
Just report the offending posts......
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 26, 2018, 05:49:56 AM
Quote from: maigheo on June 26, 2018, 02:45:55 AM
Syferus would you ever f-ck off and do not ruin another thread with your waffle.
Just report the offending posts......
Or ignore if you want.
Eoin Rochford the collateral damage in all this...trying to sort logistics for two venues !
As regards to the RTE news segment, Cian O Neills ego knows no bounds.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 26, 2018, 12:16:53 AM
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 11:59:48 PM
I'm surprised that Tyrone haven't been blamed saying as apparently every time there's something controversial in the GAA Tyrone seem to be blamed.
Sean Cavanagh
@SeanCavanagh14
2h2 hours ago
Playing Kildare in Rd 3 of the 2013 qualifiers in Newbridge was one of the most competitive games of my career. I truly believe common sense will prevail here. Hopefully sooner than later.
Fair play to him. Ciaran Whelan on the other hand is tweeting about socks and clothes.
Did he not blame Mickey Harte?
What was the reason Waterford were not allowed play home games in Munster hurling this year? Was there actually something wrong with the stadium or was it capacity related?
Is 50/50 the fair way to split ticket allocations if games are played where demand exceeds supply? Or should the home team get a bigger slice?
Fair play to Kildare for wanting to host the match
This health n safety lark is a cop out
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 01:03:06 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 26, 2018, 12:46:02 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 12:41:44 AM
Just read Willie Joe's piece on the blog. I may have read the last paragraph wrong, and apologies if I've misinterpreted, but did he actually just refer to Cian O'Neill and Kildare people as travellers?
Fellow travellers, a derogatory term for people with communist sympathies.
The hot weather has helped cause this revolutionary outburst from the stricken GAA proletariat.
Is there not a hotel in Cashelbar called the Traveller's Friend?
Maybe Willie Joe is not friendly with travellers.
Good man I like that, much better than my attempt at an explanation!!
Quote from: screenexile on June 25, 2018, 11:40:01 PM
Sky have washed their hands of it and hung HQ out to dry as well . . .
"Sky has absolutely no influence on the selection of venues for live televised matches"
Over to you GAA HQ!
Someone in HQ made a call and won't back down
Now they are on their own
Some neutral third party might come in and talk them back down. Not sure who.
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 07:45:23 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 25, 2018, 11:40:01 PM
Sky have washed their hands of it and hung HQ out to dry as well . . .
"Sky has absolutely no influence on the selection of venues for live televised matches"
Over to you GAA HQ!
Someone in HQ made a call and won't back down
Now they are on their own
Some neutral third party might come in and talk them back down. Not sure who.
Tommie Gorman ?
Mayo should just rock on up to Newbridge without saying anything to anyone.
This is really management theory.
The goal is to resolve problems at least cost.
Th'oul corporate GAA is not very good at this.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 26, 2018, 08:22:11 AM
Mayo should just rock on up to Newbridge without saying anything to anyone.
Then they will be kicked out too and one of the provincial losers will get a bye into the Super 8s. That's where this is going. Its too late for the GAA to back down and Kildare have backed themselves into a corner with their firm stance. I dont see anything being done unless its turned into an even bigger farce than it already is.
The only people capable of saving face for the GAA at this stage are the Mayo county board if they offer to play the game in Newbridge.
If the GAA can convince them to play in Newbridge then it would avoid them having to do a complete U turn and preventing egg on the face of Fergal McGill who stated that they weren't for turning on the venue. However, Mayo have no absolutely obligation to do this and they are probably correct in staying out of the dispute.
If it is not sorted out in the next 24 hours I don't see how it can be resolved at all. Also I can't imagine that too many Tyrone or Cavan fans will turn up on Saturday given the shenanigan's and we could have the prospect of watching a standalone match played in front of about 5,000 in Croke Park. It's a horror show from the GAA.
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2018, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 26, 2018, 08:22:11 AM
Mayo should just rock on up to Newbridge without saying anything to anyone.
Then they will be kicked out too and one of the provincial losers will get a bye into the Super 8s. That's where this is going. Its too late for the GAA to back down and Kildare have backed themselves into a corner with their firm stance. I dont see anything being done unless its turned into an even bigger farce than it already is.
It's only too late if they aren't entrenched, out of touch and egotistical...
Quote from: Kurtz on June 26, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
Fair play to Kildare for wanting to host the match
This health n safety lark is a cop out
The H&S statement is a complete nonsense alright. There are actual reasons why you could argue the game should be moved and it's not H&S.
As has been said, moving games to higher capacity venues has been going on for generations. Mostly good intentioned so as many people as possible can attend the game, but clearly it also means more money for the GAA in ticket receipts and that's the main driver now it would seem (also the reason Kildare County Board voted to move the Wicklow v Dublin game out of Aughrim).
It looks like around 8,500 is the actual safe capacity for Newbridge. Tickets will presumably have to be set aside for a small element of officials, players's families, etc. Are the Kildare lads happy that approx 4,000 tickets will be left for Kildare supporters, with season ticket holders given first preference? That means there'll be Kildare lads here who probably won't get tickets. Kildare have supporters who go to O'Byrne Cup games and all away league games and they may not be season ticket holders. Some of these people will not get tickets. If Kildare County Board are happy to go on that basis, then the choice should be there's to make, in conjunction with the team management.
Mayo could have a similar predicament if they replace Cork in the Super 8 and have a home game v Dublin. The county board will have the choice of holding it in Castlebar, 15k tickets to each team (as far as I'm aware the GAA has always gone for 50/50 ticket allocations where demand outstrips supply), so thousands of Mayo fans will be locked out. Or move it to, say, Limerick, where maybe an extra 10k Mayo fans can attend. The choice should be Mayo's alone though, and I'm sure they'd choose Castlebar, but there'd be a lot of Mayo non-season ticket holders feeling very hard done by. And we'd have stories of people following Mayo all around the country, 1000s of miles, 1000s of euros, and when they get a home game they can't even get it, plus all the great work they do for the club, etc. etc.
Of course the GAA should have sorted this all out from the start, so there'd be no surprises.
Quote from: yellowcard on June 26, 2018, 08:34:31 AM
The only people capable of saving face for the GAA at this stage are the Mayo county board if they offer to play the game in Newbridge.
If the GAA can convince them to play in Newbridge then it would avoid them having to do a complete U turn and preventing egg on the face of Fergal McGill who stated that they weren't for turning on the venue. However, Mayo have no absolutely obligation to do this and they are probably correct in staying out of the dispute.
If it is not sorted out in the next 24 hours I don't see how it can be resolved at all. Also I can't imagine that too many Tyrone or Cavan fans will turn up on Saturday given the shenanigan's and we could have the prospect of watching a standalone match played in front of about 5,000 in Croke Park. It's a horror show from the GAA.
If Cavan backed up Kildare, Kildare's position would be stronger.
I know their game wouldn't have been in Breffni Park anyway, but I understand their nominated venue would have been Enniskillen.
What Kildare have to their advantage, and which pretty much no other county has, is three high profile sports journalists, two of whom have a national broadcasting platform, the other who is expert at creating controversy, fighting their corner.
This has the potential to throw the whole championship schedule out of kilter and it highlights just how tight and vulnerable to disruption the schedule is.
The capacity of the ground is 9,020, according to the Slattery report, commissioned by the Gaa itself
Anyone hear Ned Quinn the Chairman of the CCCC on offtheball?
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on June 26, 2018, 08:52:28 AM
The capacity of the ground is 9,020, according to the Slattery report, commissioned by the Gaa itself
Yep, with a 10% reduction for all ticket games. No idea why!
http://www.kfmradio.com/listen-live-player.html
What's the story with season tickets? Turn up to CP for nothing and get attendance recorded or what? It doesn't affect me this weekend as I'm not able to go but there are people from Achill and Belmullet who will be wondering this.
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: Kurtz on June 26, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
Fair play to Kildare for wanting to host the match
This health n safety lark is a cop out
The H&S statement is a complete nonsense alright. There are actual reasons why you could argue the game should be moved and it's not H&S.
As has been said, moving games to higher capacity venues has been going on for generations. Mostly good intentioned so as many people as possible can attend the game, but clearly it also means more money for the GAA in ticket receipts and that's the main driver now it would seem (also the reason Kildare County Board voted to move the Wicklow v Dublin game out of Aughrim).
It looks like around 8,500 is the actual safe capacity for Newbridge. Tickets will presumably have to be set aside for a small element of officials, players's families, etc. Are the Kildare lads happy that approx 4,000 tickets will be left for Kildare supporters, with season ticket holders given first preference? That means there'll be Kildare lads here who probably won't get tickets. Kildare have supporters who go to O'Byrne Cup games and all away league games and they may not be season ticket holders. Some of these people will not get tickets. If Kildare County Board are happy to go on that basis, then the choice should be there's to make, in conjunction with the team management.
Mayo could have a similar predicament if they replace Cork in the Super 8 and have a home game v Dublin. The county board will have the choice of holding it in Castlebar, 15k tickets to each team (as far as I'm aware the GAA has always gone for 50/50 ticket allocations where demand outstrips supply), so thousands of Mayo fans will be locked out. Or move it to, say, Limerick, where maybe an extra 10k Mayo fans can attend. The choice should be Mayo's alone though, and I'm sure they'd choose Castlebar, but there'd be a lot of Mayo non-season ticket holders feeling very hard done by. And we'd have stories of people following Mayo all around the country, 1000s of miles, 1000s of euros, and when they get a home game they can't even get it, plus all the great work they do for the club, etc. etc.
Of course the GAA should have sorted this all out from the start, so there'd be no surprises.
The spread of GAA county grounds is very uneven. Not every county has a ground with the capacity to suit HQ because of decisions made in the past and priorities. And the focus of the GAA is Croke Park. And home advantage is important when the margins are thin.
It's a structural problem.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 26, 2018, 09:01:07 AM
What's the story with season tickets? Turn up to CP for nothing and get attendance recorded or what? It doesn't affect me this weekend as I'm not able to go but there are people from Achill and Belmullet who will be wondering this.
Season ticket holders are part of the problem here if you ask me
Great idea, until smaller county grounds cannot cope with the numbers
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 09:07:35 AM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: Kurtz on June 26, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
Fair play to Kildare for wanting to host the match
This health n safety lark is a cop out
The H&S statement is a complete nonsense alright. There are actual reasons why you could argue the game should be moved and it's not H&S.
As has been said, moving games to higher capacity venues has been going on for generations. Mostly good intentioned so as many people as possible can attend the game, but clearly it also means more money for the GAA in ticket receipts and that's the main driver now it would seem (also the reason Kildare County Board voted to move the Wicklow v Dublin game out of Aughrim).
It looks like around 8,500 is the actual safe capacity for Newbridge. Tickets will presumably have to be set aside for a small element of officials, players's families, etc. Are the Kildare lads happy that approx 4,000 tickets will be left for Kildare supporters, with season ticket holders given first preference? That means there'll be Kildare lads here who probably won't get tickets. Kildare have supporters who go to O'Byrne Cup games and all away league games and they may not be season ticket holders. Some of these people will not get tickets. If Kildare County Board are happy to go on that basis, then the choice should be there's to make, in conjunction with the team management.
Mayo could have a similar predicament if they replace Cork in the Super 8 and have a home game v Dublin. The county board will have the choice of holding it in Castlebar, 15k tickets to each team (as far as I'm aware the GAA has always gone for 50/50 ticket allocations where demand outstrips supply), so thousands of Mayo fans will be locked out. Or move it to, say, Limerick, where maybe an extra 10k Mayo fans can attend. The choice should be Mayo's alone though, and I'm sure they'd choose Castlebar, but there'd be a lot of Mayo non-season ticket holders feeling very hard done by. And we'd have stories of people following Mayo all around the country, 1000s of miles, 1000s of euros, and when they get a home game they can't even get it, plus all the great work they do for the club, etc. etc.
Of course the GAA should have sorted this all out from the start, so there'd be no surprises.
The spread of GAA county grounds is very uneven. Not every county has a ground with the capacity to suit HQ because of decisions made in the past and priorities. And the focus of the GAA is Croke Park. And home advantage is important when the margins are thin.
It's a structural problem.
Kildare are very picky about which ground Mayo beat them in ;)
Seriously thought, if it was to be shown on RTE would there be such a faux outrage? Games have been moved for as long as I can remember. I can barely remember Tyrone playing anywhere else in my youth other than Clones. Furthermore it's like 40 mins down the road. It's not as if they're been sent to Cork.
Kildare have in the past shown very little regard for the rules and regulations of the GAA so in my honest view and I appreciate it goes against the majority, they should suck it up and play the match in Croke Park.
A lot of people on here saying that the H&S thing is bullshit, this is without any clue as to what is actually involved. I've tried looking for that Rafferty Report thats been mentioned but no sign.
Bottom line is we don't know what the actual capacity of the park is, i've heard everything from 6,200 to 8,000 to 10,000 to 12,000. Without knowing that we're all just talking out our arses.
However, there is a section in the season ticket T&C's
In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture
Which in itself is absolute bullshit
There are enough places in Newbridge for all season ticket holders.
Most of them will have to stand, but so what.
Kildare playing in Portlaoise in the past is a red herring and irrelevant.
They're correct here.
And the GAA know it. Everybody knows it.
How many season tickets have the Rhubarbs?
I've heard 4,000 and 4,800 mentioned.
Would the current non bandwagon Kildare have 1,000?
So that plus the 2 Co Board tickets for families of players, sponsors etc would use up 6,500 to 7,000 leaving about 2-2,500 for public sale.
That would have led to some whinging but at least the game would be going ahead and the innocent victims Cavan and Tyrone would be preparing for a trip to Enniskillen or Clones.
As a compromise we should play the game at the RDS
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 26, 2018, 09:16:53 AM
A lot of people on here saying that the H&S thing is bullshit, this is without any clue as to what is actually involved. I've tried looking for that Rafferty Report thats been mentioned but no sign.
Bottom line is we don't know what the actual capacity of the park is, i've heard everything from 6,200 to 8,000 to 10,000 to 12,000. Without knowing that we're all just talking out our arses.
However, there is a section in the season ticket T&C's
In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture
Which in itself is absolute bullshit
We don't need to know the capacity, as we know that Mayo would fill it twice without need for a single Lilly to join them. Trying to be more specific than that is plain daft.
——
Somewhere in an almost parallel universe right now, the GAA have allowed Kildare home advantage, and there's a message board with hundreds of posts where people are sticking it into Kildare County Board for steadfastly refusing to play the game in the bigger venue that the crowd deserves.
——
Personally I hope a Kildare club refuses the Kildare County Board on similar grounds in the near future. This paranoid "everyone is out to get us" attitude that runs like a disease through the GAA sickens my hole. And those who imbibe deserve a full taste of the medicine.
——-
At some point this week it's going to start dawning on Kildare fans that a) they've been financing a team all year who are now refusing to play football, and b) that if the game was played in Newbridge, there'd be no chance of a ticket.
When you stop being emotional about this, it's an eminently sensible decision by CCC.
The tide will turn.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 08:52:54 AM
Anyone hear Ned Quinn the Chairman of the CCCC on offtheball?
Only caught the end of it where he was non-committal and didn't seem well prepared, definitely felt he didn't want to be on the air.
Jack Anderson though was very good. Looks like the DRA is the only solution, he feels costs will be prohibitive to Kildare and the GAA have a slightly better case
but it will delay the whole championship if Kildare apply for an injunction.That's the nuclear option right there. The GAA will not want that.
Sean Kelly's solution was to give Kildare a ton of money, straight out of the Bertie playbook.
Quote from: trailer on June 26, 2018, 09:16:13 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 09:07:35 AM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: Kurtz on June 26, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
Fair play to Kildare for wanting to host the match
This health n safety lark is a cop out
The H&S statement is a complete nonsense alright. There are actual reasons why you could argue the game should be moved and it's not H&S.
As has been said, moving games to higher capacity venues has been going on for generations. Mostly good intentioned so as many people as possible can attend the game, but clearly it also means more money for the GAA in ticket receipts and that's the main driver now it would seem (also the reason Kildare County Board voted to move the Wicklow v Dublin game out of Aughrim).
It looks like around 8,500 is the actual safe capacity for Newbridge. Tickets will presumably have to be set aside for a small element of officials, players's families, etc. Are the Kildare lads happy that approx 4,000 tickets will be left for Kildare supporters, with season ticket holders given first preference? That means there'll be Kildare lads here who probably won't get tickets. Kildare have supporters who go to O'Byrne Cup games and all away league games and they may not be season ticket holders. Some of these people will not get tickets. If Kildare County Board are happy to go on that basis, then the choice should be there's to make, in conjunction with the team management.
Mayo could have a similar predicament if they replace Cork in the Super 8 and have a home game v Dublin. The county board will have the choice of holding it in Castlebar, 15k tickets to each team (as far as I'm aware the GAA has always gone for 50/50 ticket allocations where demand outstrips supply), so thousands of Mayo fans will be locked out. Or move it to, say, Limerick, where maybe an extra 10k Mayo fans can attend. The choice should be Mayo's alone though, and I'm sure they'd choose Castlebar, but there'd be a lot of Mayo non-season ticket holders feeling very hard done by. And we'd have stories of people following Mayo all around the country, 1000s of miles, 1000s of euros, and when they get a home game they can't even get it, plus all the great work they do for the club, etc. etc.
Of course the GAA should have sorted this all out from the start, so there'd be no surprises.
The spread of GAA county grounds is very uneven. Not every county has a ground with the capacity to suit HQ because of decisions made in the past and priorities. And the focus of the GAA is Croke Park. And home advantage is important when the margins are thin.
It's a structural problem.
Kildare are very picky about which ground Mayo beat them in ;)
Seriously thought, if it was to be shown on RTE would there be such a faux outrage? Games have been moved for as long as I can remember. I can barely remember Tyrone playing anywhere else in my youth other than Clones. Furthermore it's like 40 mins down the road. It's not as if they're been sent to Cork.
Kildare have in the past shown very little regard for the rules and regulations of the GAA so in my honest view and I appreciate it goes against the majority, they should suck it up and play the match in Croke Park.
Why exactly should they 'suck it up'? At least Kildare are showing a bit of backbone here.
Well done Kildare. This Down man is behind you all.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 26, 2018, 09:33:58 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 26, 2018, 09:16:53 AM
A lot of people on here saying that the H&S thing is bullshit, this is without any clue as to what is actually involved. I've tried looking for that Rafferty Report thats been mentioned but no sign.
Bottom line is we don't know what the actual capacity of the park is, i've heard everything from 6,200 to 8,000 to 10,000 to 12,000. Without knowing that we're all just talking out our arses.
However, there is a section in the season ticket T&C's
In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture
Which in itself is absolute bullshit
We don't need to know the capacity, as we know that Mayo would fill it twice without need for a single Lilly to join them. Trying to be more specific than that is plain daft.
——
Somewhere in an almost parallel universe right now, the GAA have allowed Kildare home advantage, and there's a message board with hundreds of posts where people are sticking it into Kildare County Board for steadfastly refusing to play the game in the bigger venue that the crowd deserves.
——
Personally I hope a Kildare club refuses the Kildare County Board on similar grounds in the near future. This paranoid "everyone is out to get us" attitude that runs like a disease through the GAA sickens my hole. And those who imbibe deserve a full taste of the medicine.
——-
At some point this week it's going to start dawning on Kildare fans that a) they've been financing a team all year who are now refusing to play football, and b) that if the game was played in Newbridge, there'd be no chance of a ticket.
When you stop being emotional about this, it's an eminently sensible decision by CCC.
The tide will turn.
You couldn't be more wrong unless you were Lord Mayor Wrong of Wrongville.
I always take your point of view as an administrator, at least you are consistent.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 26, 2018, 09:36:51 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 26, 2018, 09:16:13 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 09:07:35 AM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: Kurtz on June 26, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
Fair play to Kildare for wanting to host the match
This health n safety lark is a cop out
The H&S statement is a complete nonsense alright. There are actual reasons why you could argue the game should be moved and it's not H&S.
As has been said, moving games to higher capacity venues has been going on for generations. Mostly good intentioned so as many people as possible can attend the game, but clearly it also means more money for the GAA in ticket receipts and that's the main driver now it would seem (also the reason Kildare County Board voted to move the Wicklow v Dublin game out of Aughrim).
It looks like around 8,500 is the actual safe capacity for Newbridge. Tickets will presumably have to be set aside for a small element of officials, players's families, etc. Are the Kildare lads happy that approx 4,000 tickets will be left for Kildare supporters, with season ticket holders given first preference? That means there'll be Kildare lads here who probably won't get tickets. Kildare have supporters who go to O'Byrne Cup games and all away league games and they may not be season ticket holders. Some of these people will not get tickets. If Kildare County Board are happy to go on that basis, then the choice should be there's to make, in conjunction with the team management.
Mayo could have a similar predicament if they replace Cork in the Super 8 and have a home game v Dublin. The county board will have the choice of holding it in Castlebar, 15k tickets to each team (as far as I'm aware the GAA has always gone for 50/50 ticket allocations where demand outstrips supply), so thousands of Mayo fans will be locked out. Or move it to, say, Limerick, where maybe an extra 10k Mayo fans can attend. The choice should be Mayo's alone though, and I'm sure they'd choose Castlebar, but there'd be a lot of Mayo non-season ticket holders feeling very hard done by. And we'd have stories of people following Mayo all around the country, 1000s of miles, 1000s of euros, and when they get a home game they can't even get it, plus all the great work they do for the club, etc. etc.
Of course the GAA should have sorted this all out from the start, so there'd be no surprises.
The spread of GAA county grounds is very uneven. Not every county has a ground with the capacity to suit HQ because of decisions made in the past and priorities. And the focus of the GAA is Croke Park. And home advantage is important when the margins are thin.
It's a structural problem.
Kildare are very picky about which ground Mayo beat them in ;)
Seriously thought, if it was to be shown on RTE would there be such a faux outrage? Games have been moved for as long as I can remember. I can barely remember Tyrone playing anywhere else in my youth other than Clones. Furthermore it's like 40 mins down the road. It's not as if they're been sent to Cork.
Kildare have in the past shown very little regard for the rules and regulations of the GAA so in my honest view and I appreciate it goes against the majority, they should suck it up and play the match in Croke Park.
Why exactly should they 'suck it up'? At least Kildare are showing a bit of backbone here.
They didn't have much backbone in the Seanie Johnston affair.
Games get moved.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 09:36:28 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 08:52:54 AM
Anyone hear Ned Quinn the Chairman of the CCCC on offtheball?
Only caught the end of it where he was non-committal and didn't seem well prepared, definitely felt he didn't want to be on the air.
Jack Anderson though was very good. Looks like the DRA is the only solution, he feels costs will be prohibitive to Kildare and the GAA have a slightly better case but it will delay the whole championship if Kildare apply for an injunction.
That's the nuclear option right there. The GAA will not want that.
Sean Kelly's solution was to give Kildare a ton of money, straight out of the Bertie playbook.
Personally I think it would be hilarious were the championship to be held up over this, and it would be exactly what the GAA deserve.
This is like something straight out of Father Ted from Ned Quinn. Talk about digging yourself into a hole.
https://amp.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html?__twitter_impression=true
Asked to elaborate on the safety issues, he said: "People are eager to see their own county playing championship and it was a possibility that people would turn up seeking to get admission to try and buy tickets outside the ground despite knowing that tickets weren't available.
"The risk would be that people would get involved with other spectators, that's the risk.
"I wouldn't call it crowd trouble but there could be animosity shown to people who had tickets and they couldn't get them, claiming they were regular supporters of Kildare."
I predict HQ will cave and the game will go ahead in Newbridge.
However, in revenge they'll appoint Cormac Reilly to ref it.
Quote from: trailer on June 26, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 26, 2018, 09:36:51 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 26, 2018, 09:16:13 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 09:07:35 AM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: Kurtz on June 26, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
Fair play to Kildare for wanting to host the match
This health n safety lark is a cop out
The H&S statement is a complete nonsense alright. There are actual reasons why you could argue the game should be moved and it's not H&S.
As has been said, moving games to higher capacity venues has been going on for generations. Mostly good intentioned so as many people as possible can attend the game, but clearly it also means more money for the GAA in ticket receipts and that's the main driver now it would seem (also the reason Kildare County Board voted to move the Wicklow v Dublin game out of Aughrim).
It looks like around 8,500 is the actual safe capacity for Newbridge. Tickets will presumably have to be set aside for a small element of officials, players's families, etc. Are the Kildare lads happy that approx 4,000 tickets will be left for Kildare supporters, with season ticket holders given first preference? That means there'll be Kildare lads here who probably won't get tickets. Kildare have supporters who go to O'Byrne Cup games and all away league games and they may not be season ticket holders. Some of these people will not get tickets. If Kildare County Board are happy to go on that basis, then the choice should be there's to make, in conjunction with the team management.
Mayo could have a similar predicament if they replace Cork in the Super 8 and have a home game v Dublin. The county board will have the choice of holding it in Castlebar, 15k tickets to each team (as far as I'm aware the GAA has always gone for 50/50 ticket allocations where demand outstrips supply), so thousands of Mayo fans will be locked out. Or move it to, say, Limerick, where maybe an extra 10k Mayo fans can attend. The choice should be Mayo's alone though, and I'm sure they'd choose Castlebar, but there'd be a lot of Mayo non-season ticket holders feeling very hard done by. And we'd have stories of people following Mayo all around the country, 1000s of miles, 1000s of euros, and when they get a home game they can't even get it, plus all the great work they do for the club, etc. etc.
Of course the GAA should have sorted this all out from the start, so there'd be no surprises.
The spread of GAA county grounds is very uneven. Not every county has a ground with the capacity to suit HQ because of decisions made in the past and priorities. And the focus of the GAA is Croke Park. And home advantage is important when the margins are thin.
It's a structural problem.
Kildare are very picky about which ground Mayo beat them in ;)
Seriously thought, if it was to be shown on RTE would there be such a faux outrage? Games have been moved for as long as I can remember. I can barely remember Tyrone playing anywhere else in my youth other than Clones. Furthermore it's like 40 mins down the road. It's not as if they're been sent to Cork.
Kildare have in the past shown very little regard for the rules and regulations of the GAA so in my honest view and I appreciate it goes against the majority, they should suck it up and play the match in Croke Park.
Why exactly should they 'suck it up'? At least Kildare are showing a bit of backbone here.
They didn't have much backbone in the Seanie Johnston affair.
Games get moved.
eh? Completely different situation, and didn't they, in spite of widespread condemnation show backbone and stick to their guns? Any right thinking GAA man / woman should be backing Kildare here and not using the Seanie Johnston affair as a stick to beat them with
If Kildare are getting money we deserve some too, this is awful fuckacting
It wasn't clear at the time of the draw that the GAA reserved the right to bring matches to Croke Park. I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in any discussion about the qualifiers.
And Health and Safety is a real "that's the why" explanation.
Quote from: trailer on June 26, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 26, 2018, 09:36:51 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 26, 2018, 09:16:13 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 09:07:35 AM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: Kurtz on June 26, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
Fair play to Kildare for wanting to host the match
This health n safety lark is a cop out
The H&S statement is a complete nonsense alright. There are actual reasons why you could argue the game should be moved and it's not H&S.
As has been said, moving games to higher capacity venues has been going on for generations. Mostly good intentioned so as many people as possible can attend the game, but clearly it also means more money for the GAA in ticket receipts and that's the main driver now it would seem (also the reason Kildare County Board voted to move the Wicklow v Dublin game out of Aughrim).
It looks like around 8,500 is the actual safe capacity for Newbridge. Tickets will presumably have to be set aside for a small element of officials, players's families, etc. Are the Kildare lads happy that approx 4,000 tickets will be left for Kildare supporters, with season ticket holders given first preference? That means there'll be Kildare lads here who probably won't get tickets. Kildare have supporters who go to O'Byrne Cup games and all away league games and they may not be season ticket holders. Some of these people will not get tickets. If Kildare County Board are happy to go on that basis, then the choice should be there's to make, in conjunction with the team management.
Mayo could have a similar predicament if they replace Cork in the Super 8 and have a home game v Dublin. The county board will have the choice of holding it in Castlebar, 15k tickets to each team (as far as I'm aware the GAA has always gone for 50/50 ticket allocations where demand outstrips supply), so thousands of Mayo fans will be locked out. Or move it to, say, Limerick, where maybe an extra 10k Mayo fans can attend. The choice should be Mayo's alone though, and I'm sure they'd choose Castlebar, but there'd be a lot of Mayo non-season ticket holders feeling very hard done by. And we'd have stories of people following Mayo all around the country, 1000s of miles, 1000s of euros, and when they get a home game they can't even get it, plus all the great work they do for the club, etc. etc.
Of course the GAA should have sorted this all out from the start, so there'd be no surprises.
The spread of GAA county grounds is very uneven. Not every county has a ground with the capacity to suit HQ because of decisions made in the past and priorities. And the focus of the GAA is Croke Park. And home advantage is important when the margins are thin.
It's a structural problem.
Kildare are very picky about which ground Mayo beat them in ;)
Seriously thought, if it was to be shown on RTE would there be such a faux outrage? Games have been moved for as long as I can remember. I can barely remember Tyrone playing anywhere else in my youth other than Clones. Furthermore it's like 40 mins down the road. It's not as if they're been sent to Cork.
Kildare have in the past shown very little regard for the rules and regulations of the GAA so in my honest view and I appreciate it goes against the majority, they should suck it up and play the match in Croke Park.
Why exactly should they 'suck it up'? At least Kildare are showing a bit of backbone here.
They didn't have much backbone in the Seanie Johnston affair.
Games get moved.
And what county do you hail from?
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:46:47 AM
I predict HQ will cave and the game will go ahead in Newbridge.
However, in revenge they'll appoint Cormac Reilly to ref it.
Jeez. We'll go to Croke Park so.
Cian O'Neill and Johnny Doyle are on KFM after 10
http://www.kfmradio.com/listen-live-player.html
I suppose this a good bonding exercise for the Kildare lads
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 12:00:40 AM
Quote from: Solo_run on June 25, 2018, 11:57:52 PM
Could not give a hoot if HQ have maintenance costs.
The rules of the qualifiers are clearly stated - Kildare are to have home advantage. Less than 24hrs from being given home advantage GAA turn around and try to take it away from them! There are no specified minimum number of fans that have to attend games so they should be allowed to play at home.
I don't like the idea that 4 out of the 8 teams in the draw get the advantage of playing a game at Croke Park. If Croke Park wanted the extra money then they should have thought about this beforehand.
The local communities in Cavan and Kildare will be losing out from the game moving.
Fair play to Kildare for sticking to their guns. It's doesnt sound like Kildare are going to back peddle in this and rightly so.
Good Post!
+1
Chair of the CCCC claims there could be 'animosity' among fans if Kildare-Mayo game went ahead at Newbridge
Asked to elaborate on the safety issues, he said: "People are eager to see their own county playing championship and it was a possibility that people would turn up seeking to get admission to try and buy tickets outside the ground despite knowing that tickets weren't available.
"The risk would be that people would get involved with other spectators, that's the risk.
"I wouldn't call it crowd trouble but there could be animosity shown to people who had tickets and they couldn't get them, claiming they were regular supporters of Kildare."
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html)
This is extraordinary stuff from Ned Quinn.
Surprised at him tbh.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 26, 2018, 09:47:52 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 26, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 26, 2018, 09:36:51 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 26, 2018, 09:16:13 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 09:07:35 AM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: Kurtz on June 26, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
Fair play to Kildare for wanting to host the match
This health n safety lark is a cop out
The H&S statement is a complete nonsense alright. There are actual reasons why you could argue the game should be moved and it's not H&S.
As has been said, moving games to higher capacity venues has been going on for generations. Mostly good intentioned so as many people as possible can attend the game, but clearly it also means more money for the GAA in ticket receipts and that's the main driver now it would seem (also the reason Kildare County Board voted to move the Wicklow v Dublin game out of Aughrim).
It looks like around 8,500 is the actual safe capacity for Newbridge. Tickets will presumably have to be set aside for a small element of officials, players's families, etc. Are the Kildare lads happy that approx 4,000 tickets will be left for Kildare supporters, with season ticket holders given first preference? That means there'll be Kildare lads here who probably won't get tickets. Kildare have supporters who go to O'Byrne Cup games and all away league games and they may not be season ticket holders. Some of these people will not get tickets. If Kildare County Board are happy to go on that basis, then the choice should be there's to make, in conjunction with the team management.
Mayo could have a similar predicament if they replace Cork in the Super 8 and have a home game v Dublin. The county board will have the choice of holding it in Castlebar, 15k tickets to each team (as far as I'm aware the GAA has always gone for 50/50 ticket allocations where demand outstrips supply), so thousands of Mayo fans will be locked out. Or move it to, say, Limerick, where maybe an extra 10k Mayo fans can attend. The choice should be Mayo's alone though, and I'm sure they'd choose Castlebar, but there'd be a lot of Mayo non-season ticket holders feeling very hard done by. And we'd have stories of people following Mayo all around the country, 1000s of miles, 1000s of euros, and when they get a home game they can't even get it, plus all the great work they do for the club, etc. etc.
Of course the GAA should have sorted this all out from the start, so there'd be no surprises.
The spread of GAA county grounds is very uneven. Not every county has a ground with the capacity to suit HQ because of decisions made in the past and priorities. And the focus of the GAA is Croke Park. And home advantage is important when the margins are thin.
It's a structural problem.
Kildare are very picky about which ground Mayo beat them in ;)
Seriously thought, if it was to be shown on RTE would there be such a faux outrage? Games have been moved for as long as I can remember. I can barely remember Tyrone playing anywhere else in my youth other than Clones. Furthermore it's like 40 mins down the road. It's not as if they're been sent to Cork.
Kildare have in the past shown very little regard for the rules and regulations of the GAA so in my honest view and I appreciate it goes against the majority, they should suck it up and play the match in Croke Park.
Why exactly should they 'suck it up'? At least Kildare are showing a bit of backbone here.
They didn't have much backbone in the Seanie Johnston affair.
Games get moved.
eh? Completely different situation, and didn't they, in spite of widespread condemnation show backbone and stick to their guns? Any right thinking GAA man / woman should be backing Kildare here and not using the Seanie Johnston affair as a stick to beat them with
I appreciate I'm probably in majority of 1. And to be fair I have no skin in the game as it were with either Kildare or Mayo. So that's how I feel about it. I hope common sense prevails and it gets sorted. Its a big championship game and if you want to talk about growing the game and inspiring children, wouldn't one way to do that be allowing as many patrons as possible watch the match? It's been poorly handled by the GAA and Kildare County board. Both sides have painted themselves into a corner. Something will have to give..
Regarding Seanie Johnston: Kildare were happy to bend rules and make a mockery of their own Hurling championship in that instance.
Kildare issued a statement claiming they can meet H&S requirements and have permission from the Gardai. Not one person in croke park/GAA administration has denied or refuted that claim. It's clearly about €€€€€'s
Sean Kelly and Nicky Brennan on newstalk were really disappointing this morning. Nicky Brennan thinks 15k people from Mayo will go to newbridge without tickets even though the game would be sold out and on tv as they expect to buy a ticket off a tout before the game. Ridiculous stuff. Sean Kelly did indeed take the Bertie approach. Give Kildare a few quid to stop them complaining and everybody's happy.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
Chair of the CCCC claims there could be 'animosity' among fans if Kildare-Mayo game went ahead at Newbridge
Asked to elaborate on the safety issues, he said: "People are eager to see their own county playing championship and it was a possibility that people would turn up seeking to get admission to try and buy tickets outside the ground despite knowing that tickets weren't available.
"The risk would be that people would get involved with other spectators, that's the risk.
"I wouldn't call it crowd trouble but there could be animosity shown to people who had tickets and they couldn't get them, claiming they were regular supporters of Kildare."
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html)
This is extraordinary stuff from Ned Quinn.
Surprised at him tbh.
He must have visions of Mayo Supporters looting the Whitewater...
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
Chair of the CCCC claims there could be 'animosity' among fans if Kildare-Mayo game went ahead at Newbridge
Asked to elaborate on the safety issues, he said: "People are eager to see their own county playing championship and it was a possibility that people would turn up seeking to get admission to try and buy tickets outside the ground despite knowing that tickets weren't available.
"The risk would be that people would get involved with other spectators, that's the risk.
"I wouldn't call it crowd trouble but there could be animosity shown to people who had tickets and they couldn't get them, claiming they were regular supporters of Kildare."
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html)
This is extraordinary stuff from Ned Quinn.
Surprised at him tbh.
He must have visions of Mayo Supporters looting the Whitewater...
Ned fears they'll do an Emily Davison (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/26/emily-davison-suffragette-death-derby-1913 (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/26/emily-davison-suffragette-death-derby-1913)) at the Derby if they can't get a ticket for the match down the road.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
Chair of the CCCC claims there could be 'animosity' among fans if Kildare-Mayo game went ahead at Newbridge
Asked to elaborate on the safety issues, he said: "People are eager to see their own county playing championship and it was a possibility that people would turn up seeking to get admission to try and buy tickets outside the ground despite knowing that tickets weren't available.
"The risk would be that people would get involved with other spectators, that's the risk.
"I wouldn't call it crowd trouble but there could be animosity shown to people who had tickets and they couldn't get them, claiming they were regular supporters of Kildare."
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html)
This is extraordinary stuff from Ned Quinn.
Surprised at him tbh.
What absolute bullshit! People aren't going to drive up from Mayo to Newbridge without a ticket for a game they know is sold-out - it's not the All-Ireland final, it's a round 3 qualifier.
Do Kildare fix nearly all their Club Championship games in St Conleths no matter how many pitches bith clubs in a match might pass on their way there?
What if say its Celbridge v Leixlip and they say we want to play it in Maynooth so as not to be dragging our supporters to Newbridge, promotional value of playing locally atmosphere at game etc.
They refuse to turn up in Newbridge, both teams go to Maynooth. .....
Result
KCB would feck them both out of the Championship.
Let us trust that Kildare will hold firm on this and not sell their soul.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 10:02:17 AM
Do Kildare fix nearly all their Club Championship games in St Conleths no matter how many pitches bith clubs in a match might pass on their way there?
What if say its Celbridge v Leixlip and they say we want to play it in Maynooth so as not to be dragging our supporters to Newbridge, promotional value of playing locally atmosphere at game etc.
They refuse to turn up in Newbridge, both teams go to Maynooth. .....
Result
KCB would feck them both out of the Championship.
Neither of those teams have home advantage so hardly applicable.
Great to see an issue that 99% of people can agree on. . . it'll be interesting to see what way it turns out.
The GAA hierarchy are making absolute fools of themselves with their statements "Health and Safety" and "Crowd Trouble" are ridiculous!!!
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
Chair of the CCCC claims there could be 'animosity' among fans if Kildare-Mayo game went ahead at Newbridge
Asked to elaborate on the safety issues, he said: "People are eager to see their own county playing championship and it was a possibility that people would turn up seeking to get admission to try and buy tickets outside the ground despite knowing that tickets weren't available.
"The risk would be that people would get involved with other spectators, that's the risk.
"I wouldn't call it crowd trouble but there could be animosity shown to people who had tickets and they couldn't get them, claiming they were regular supporters of Kildare."
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html)
This is extraordinary stuff from Ned Quinn.
Surprised at him tbh.
He must have visions of Mayo Supporters looting the Whitewater...
(https://cdn-03.independent.ie/incoming/article30551641.ece/a750d/AUTOCROP/w620/907180_2.jpg)
"Jesus lads, there's 20% off mens formal shirts in Debenhams!"
One thing this has highlighted is how likely it would be that the gaa will go taking home advantage of teams for super 8 games using the same excuses.
Donegal need to stand up for themselves here.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 10:02:17 AM
Do Kildare fix nearly all their Club Championship games in St Conleths no matter how many pitches bith clubs in a match might pass on their way there?
What if say its Celbridge v Leixlip and they say we want to play it in Maynooth so as not to be dragging our supporters to Newbridge, promotional value of playing locally atmosphere at game etc.
They refuse to turn up in Newbridge, both teams go to Maynooth. .....
Result
KCB would feck them both out of the Championship.
Ridiculous analogy. The issue here is that per rules of the competition Kildare are entitled to a home venue and CP are breaking their own rules. Bringing in ludicrous side issues about venues for club games shows you are missing the point - intentionally or otherwise.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
Chair of the CCCC claims there could be 'animosity' among fans if Kildare-Mayo game went ahead at Newbridge
Asked to elaborate on the safety issues, he said: "People are eager to see their own county playing championship and it was a possibility that people would turn up seeking to get admission to try and buy tickets outside the ground despite knowing that tickets weren't available.
"The risk would be that people would get involved with other spectators, that's the risk.
"I wouldn't call it crowd trouble but there could be animosity shown to people who had tickets and they couldn't get them, claiming they were regular supporters of Kildare."
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html)
This is extraordinary stuff from Ned Quinn.
Surprised at him tbh.
He must have visions of Mayo Supporters looting the Whitewater...
Ned Quinn is one of Brian Cody's honchos.
Eg
"John McIntyre is also on record as saying that in 2007 when Offaly were surprisingly neck and neck with Kilkenny at half time, Cody and Kilkenny chairman Ned Quinn cornered the ref at the interval and read him the riot act about giving too many frees to Offaly. "
He knows NOTHING about football.
Kildare need to build their media content around words such as manliness and get Eddie Keher on board.
LOL at "animosity"
Feck sake - I've never seen a Kildare man riz.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:46:47 AM
I predict HQ will cave and the game will go ahead in Newbridge.
However, in revenge they'll appoint Cormac Reilly to ref it.
Or Paddy Neilan, where one can take 11 steps in the run up to a goal.
O'Rourke: GAA cannot ignore Kildare protest
"I'm surprised Cavan agreed, even though their ground is unavailable at the moment. If the GAA were thinking of supporters for Cavan and Tyrone, then that match could be in Enniskillen to suit the supporters of both teams.
"I don't know how the GAA could run against Kildare in this case. Kildare are merely abiding by the rules the GAA have set. I don't know how the GAA could force Kildare to forfeit the game because surely on appeal, Kildare would have to win it.
"It's a right Mexican stand-off. I wonder did the GAA have proper consultation with Kildare, Cavan and Tyrone? They have got themselves on the horns of the dilemma and somebody has to back down.
"The GAA do seem to be wielding the big stick here. If right was right, Cavan v Tyrone would be in Enniskillen and Kildare would be in Newbridge."
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973250-orourke-gaa-cannot-ignore-kildare-protest/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973250-orourke-gaa-cannot-ignore-kildare-protest/)
Colm laying down the law.
"This is a football competition, not a financial report" . Cian O'Neill
If Kildare go for an injunction could we have the hurling final in September again?
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:01:10 AM
I see Willie Joe is making an embarrassment of himself as usual on MayoGAABlog.
For once I agree. The same lad was giving out spades about Mayo having to play Kerry in Limerick. Mayo should have stood up that time, but sure their white elephant of a McHale part was / is getting bailed out by headquarters.
Imagine a hypothetical scenario where Mayo went on to win the All-Ireland after getting a walkover against Kildare.
There would always be an asterisk there.
It would always be known as 'The Year of the Walkover'.
Quote from: Jayop on June 26, 2018, 10:10:40 AM
One thing this has highlighted is how likely it would be that the gaa will go taking home advantage of teams for super 8 games using the same excuses.
Super 8 has several games, not quite the same thing. However, if Louth, say, were to qualify for the super 8s (albeit unlikely) might their crap ground not be an issue?
Everyone here is backing the Kildare horse, but I think there is also a point to be made that the GAA should not be making it difficult for people to attend matches if they wish. Actual attendance is one of the strengths of the GAA vs the TV sports. This game would not be on RTÉ but only on Sky, so people could not readily see it if they are prevented from attending.
Ned Quinn has made a right bollox of himself coming out with this shite.
Animosity FFS.
So by his logic every time a fixture is announced and it looks like it could possibly be sold out we need to change the venue incase of animosity.
Will the hurling final at the weekend be sold out?? Chance of trouble no doubt
Fair play to Kildare
Ned Quinn's performance is indicative of the 'just do what you're told' attitude of HQ.
When his argument was picked apart he just started pulling stuff out of thin air in an attempt to justify his position.
They would want to get a handle on this asap.
I'm not sure they understand the depth of feeling there is out there, about this and many other issues.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 10:23:58 AM
Imagine a hypothetical scenario where Mayo went on to win the All-Ireland after getting a walkover against Kildare.
There would always be an asterisk there.
It would always be known as 'The Year of the Walkover'.
Very true but whatever happens I don't think we will get to the last four this year let alone win Sam. Anyway this doesn't really matter at this stage and is nothing more than a side issue to what is happening here.
This is lovely. The Mayo ones are fighting between themselves on this one. Divide and conquer. The daft wimmin on the Mayo blog are going to bate WJ. :)
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 10:31:06 AM
Ned Quinn's performance is indicative of the 'just do what you're told' attitude of HQ.
When his argument was picked apart he just started pulling stuff out of thin air in an attempt to justify his position.
They would want to get a handle on this asap.
I'm not sure they understand the depth of feeling there is out there, about this and many other issues.
That's the why
They changed their position without any explanation and want to force it
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 10:31:06 AM
Ned Quinn's performance is indicative of the 'just do what you're told' attitude of HQ.
When his argument was picked apart he just started pulling stuff out of thin air in an attempt to justify his position.
They would want to get a handle on this asap.
I'm not sure they understand the depth of feeling there is out there, about this and many other issues.
I get the impression they think they're right and everybody else is wrong. Clearly they expected kildare to accept croke for the game without complaint. There's a dangerous precedent set now for the super 8's.
According to the Irish independent if roscommon win their qualifier their home game is against the dubs. What are the odds that gets switched by HQ as well
The quotes from Ned Quinn and Fergal McGill just show how detached from reality a lot of the GAA top brass are these days. Nobody in hq could have forseen this when they dictated that this game would be scheduled for Croke Park. They probably genuinely believe the spiel that "sure doesn't everyone love a big day out in Croke Park" and the old reliable "all players want to play in Croke Park". They have underestimated the depth of feeling that is there among many GAA members across the land at the direction the association is heading. You can't just make up the rules as you go along and I am delighted that it is Kildare who have pulled them up on this issue.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 10:23:58 AM
Imagine a hypothetical scenario where Mayo went on to win the All-Ireland after getting a walkover against Kildare.
There would always be an asterisk there.
It would always be known as 'The Year of the Walkover'.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and wager that Mayo people wouldn't give a shite if every team we played this year had 9 players, no goalie, were made play barefoot and had weights put in their pockets if it meant winning an all-ireland
Asterisks me hole
Joseph Brolly now has the whole of the GAA onside.
Just wait to see him run with this one.
He has been going on about corporate GAA for a long time now
When you look at the reaction to this on social media, you can see that this is the straw that broke the camels back for a lot of people.
I think the GAA probably figured they could isolate Kildare if it came to that and use the tired old line about wanting as many people as possible to see the game.
The simple response to that is, why have you given the TV rights to a subscription-only channel that most of us don't have?
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 10:38:12 AM
The quotes from Ned Quinn and Fergal McGill just show how detached from reality a lot of the GAA top brass are these days. Nobody in hq could have forseen this when they dictated that this game would be scheduled for Croke Park. They probably genuinely believe the spiel that "sure doesn't everyone love a big day out in Croke Park" and the old reliable "all players want to play in Croke Park". They have underestimated the depth of feeling that is there among many GAA members across the land at the direction the association is heading. You can't just make up the rules as you go along and I am delighted that it is Kildare who have pulled them up on this issue.
I think something like this was entirely foreseeable, it's just that the GAA are very bad at having foresight over such things.
This guy knows his stuff and lays out the legal case FOR Kildare's position.
https://twitter.com/sportslawMELB/status/1011536364972605442 (https://twitter.com/sportslawMELB/status/1011536364972605442)
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 10:50:48 AM
This guy knows his stuff and lays out the legal case FOR Kildare's position.
https://twitter.com/sportslawMELB/status/1011536364972605442 (https://twitter.com/sportslawMELB/status/1011536364972605442)
#sportslaw thanks to @offtheball for having me on earlier to talk about the Kildare v Mayo fixture debacle - did some further research on this and actually think @KildareGAA may have a solid legal argument here - thread
1. Under the GAA Official Guide r3.47 (a), the Central Competitions Control Committee has overall responsibility for Competition Scheduling and Arrangements for and Control of Games under the jurisdiction of the Central Council
2.Under the GAA Offical Guide r7.11(e)(3) there is no right of appeal against a decision of the Central Competitions Control Committee or a Provincial Competitions Control Committee with regard to arrangements for the date and venue of a Game
3. There is DRA authority that in exceptional circumstances a decision of a CCC can be overturned where it is unreasonable and irrational in the circumstances - high bar but can be done e.g., DRA 21 of 2016 Kilcoo GAC v Down CCC and Ulster HC
4. Kildare can argue that CCCC is unreasonably in breach of r6.28(A) (v) (2): "Home Venues SHALL be used in Rounds 1, 2 and 3 of the All-Ireland Qualifier Series, with first Team drawn having Home Advantage" and only exception is "Venues for Rd 4 shall be determined by CCCC"
5. If there is any exception to the home venue rule in rounds 1-3 of the All-Ireland Qs (e.g., ground capacity, health and welfare, season ticket etc) GAA probably should have thought of that beforehand and expressly given the CCCC a discretion but it didn't
6. In sum, while CCCC has wide discretionary powers (that usually can't be appealed) under GAA rules, the GAA Official Guide has expressly and clearly limited the CCCC's powers in rounds 1-3 of the qualifiers and it must give Kildare home advantage.
7. If @KildareGAA go for injunctive relief in the courts, they look like they have a good arguable case and would get it on the above grounds. CCCC are not in any way willfully breaching the Guide, doing their best, just more restricted than normal by Guide & haven't realised.
8. CCCC may have to back down this time & revisit matters at end of year to give themselves greater discretion with Qs. I would recommend that they do that: ensures game is played, Kildare get what their due & from next rd of qualifiers (R4) CCCC have power to fix venues anyway
9. hope that all sides see the sense in the above and avoid legal or even DRA route - it will cost money and time and disrupt the tight fixtures schedule, possibly impacting on the Super 8
Quote from: sid waddell on June 26, 2018, 10:49:49 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 10:38:12 AM
The quotes from Ned Quinn and Fergal McGill just show how detached from reality a lot of the GAA top brass are these days. Nobody in hq could have forseen this when they dictated that this game would be scheduled for Croke Park. They probably genuinely believe the spiel that "sure doesn't everyone love a big day out in Croke Park" and the old reliable "all players want to play in Croke Park". They have underestimated the depth of feeling that is there among many GAA members across the land at the direction the association is heading. You can't just make up the rules as you go along and I am delighted that it is Kildare who have pulled them up on this issue.
I think something like this was entirely foreseeable, it's just that the GAA are very bad at having foresight over such things.
I think it's a national failing, in fairness. Born sloppy.
The debate seems to have moved on to injunctions. This is a clusterfuck
Its a f**king disaster for Mayo, we don't need this kid of distraction
Someone on KFM just said that if Mayo and Kildare both turn up in Newbridge on Saturday they will both be expelled from the competition.
The Bodach is running the GAA.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 26, 2018, 10:55:54 AM
Its a f**king disaster for Mayo, we don't need this kid of distraction
It is also a great rally call for this Kildare team to come out and lay into us. Lets face it we are in a fragile state due to injuries and lads coming back from injury at the moment!!
It may take legal action and the delaying of the Super 8's/AI series to finally make the hierarchy get their heads out of their asses and see the direction the association is taking.
Its time the people finally fought back against all of this bullshit
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 11:04:22 AM
It may take legal action and the delaying of the Super 8's/AI series to finally make the hierarchy get their heads out of their asses and see the direction the association is taking.
Its time the people finally fought back against all of this bullshit
It has been a long time coming. Won't be long until teams start protesting by not playing games
Realistically, what is the cut-off point for resolving this?
Thinking of tickets, logistics etc.
Alan Milton has just called Kildare "lily-livered cowards" on RTE Radio.
"Let them eat cake", said the GAA PRO.
"Cian O'Neill looks like he eats a hell of a lot of it."
If Dublins away game had been to Donegal; would it have been in ballybofey? Would the Donegal county board had the balls to stand upto the gaa if the game was fixed for clones as their home fixture.? What Kildare are doing foreby a benefit to themselves is standing up for venues like newry; celtic park; ballybofey; sligo; pearse park, and others with not big capacity which in years to come could find themselves in the same situation; when teams with big support roll into town! They not called the grab all association for nothing!
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:07:09 AM
Realistically, what is the cut-off point for resolving this?
Thinking of tickets, logistics etc.
It might already be too late.
The championship has been condensed in time to allow for the Super 8 eg Munster Final on a Saturday and there is zero margin.
The clown who is holding the hard line didn't think things through.
Kildare needs to come out on top here, otherwise I could easily see provincial grounds, instead of county grounds, becoming the de facto 'home' venues for a lot of counties in years to come with the Super 8s.
Milton has now warned of a Heysel-style disaster should the game go ahead in Newbridge.
"The Mayo Firm has a notorious reputation. Letting them loose on the streets of Newbridge is a recipe for death and destruction. We need to think of the children."
Jack Anderson is a DRA arbitrator and a member of the court of arbitration for sport. I'd take his legal advice in the highest regard.
I remember Dublin playing Louth in Drogheda in the championship maybe bck round 95 when they won the All-ireland! Plenty didnt get in that day but it was a home fixture for louth! Derry and Tyrone played an all ticket in celtic park many years ago; thousands couldnt get tickets but Derry at the time were not giving up home advantage! Just cause alot of people want to get into the game doesnt give them the god given right to attend!@
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 11:04:22 AM
It may take legal action and the delaying of the Super 8's/AI series to finally make the hierarchy get their heads out of their asses and see the direction the association is taking.
Its time the people finally fought back against all of this bullshit
Absolutely. All teams should boycott in support. Big wigs will shit themselves at the thought of no super 8's and beyond.
Quote from: sid waddell on June 26, 2018, 11:12:32 AM
Milton has now warned of a Heysel-style disaster should the game go ahead in Newbridge.
"The Mayo Firm has a notorious reputation. Letting them loose on the streets of Newbridge is a recipe for death and destruction. We need to think of the children."
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/3/30/1427726348243/Hunting-009.jpg?w=700&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=07c44a4893c4e13f46eb500921c4cfc3)
We're well use to crowd control in Kildare.
Quote from: Rudi on June 26, 2018, 10:23:18 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 12:01:10 AM
I see Willie Joe is making an embarrassment of himself as usual on MayoGAABlog.
For once I agree. The same lad was giving out spades about Mayo having to play Kerry in Limerick. Mayo should have stood up that time, but sure their white elephant of a McHale part was / is getting bailed out by headquarters.
He's a f**king alp.
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2018, 10:37:18 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 10:31:06 AM
Ned Quinn's performance is indicative of the 'just do what you're told' attitude of HQ.
When his argument was picked apart he just started pulling stuff out of thin air in an attempt to justify his position.
They would want to get a handle on this asap.
I'm not sure they understand the depth of feeling there is out there, about this and many other issues.
I get the impression they think they're right and everybody else is wrong. Clearly they expected kildare to accept croke for the game without complaint. There's a dangerous precedent set now for the super 8's.
According to the Irish independent if roscommon win their qualifier their home game is against the dubs. What are the odds that gets switched by HQ as well
You'd want to change your paper buck.
If we get through our game v Dublin is in Croke Park August weekend.
Regarding super 8 venues you get a home game if your ground meets the requirements of the 4 Cs.
That will rule out a good few Counties.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:49:10 PM
If ever there was a time for everyone's favourite Kildare arsehole to make some noise it's now. Ewan now is your opportunity and surely Athy's Ger Gilroy and Celbridge's Joe Molloy will give him plenty of airtime.
Joe last night and Ger this morning didn't disappoint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1554&v=IHhNtXOV2sA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1554&v=IHhNtXOV2sA)
Ewan straight in as well.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-we-needed-someone-to-say-enough-of-price-over-principles-of-money-over-morals-and-kildare-have-37050587.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-we-needed-someone-to-say-enough-of-price-over-principles-of-money-over-morals-and-kildare-have-37050587.html)
GAA have lost complete control of the narrative. Have not seen grassroots GAA across the country so united.
This is a re-run of the Curragh mutiny.
History is always sadly destined to repeat itself.
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
The great one speaks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/john-prenty-capacity-fears-led-to-croke-park-switch-472369.html
Joxer goes to Newbridge. :)
https://twitter.com/christymoore45/status/1011546357071597568 (https://twitter.com/christymoore45/status/1011546357071597568)
The Kildare CB have the support of the majority of Kildare it seems. If they back down now the fans will turn against them and GAA will know they can get what they want.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
The great one speaks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/john-prenty-capacity-fears-led-to-croke-park-switch-472369.html
Are the CCC actually mental?
How can you expect an attendance that exceeds the number of tickets you've sold by 6,000?
'obviously those two figures are not compatible.'You can sing that, John.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
The great one speaks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/john-prenty-capacity-fears-led-to-croke-park-switch-472369.html
Dear god, that logic is just bizarre. How many ticketless people do they expect to turn up to the turnstiles without tickets to get into a round 3 qualifier match, 6,000?
Trying to justify the decision on health and safety grounds is bulls**t. Will there be a crush at the turnstiles or crowd riots outside as the angry masses flock to Newbridge.
The argument that they want to allow as many people see the game as possible is also a fallacy since it is being shown live on Sky which prevents thousands from seeing the match on tv anyway. They have badly misjudged the public's mood on this and all of these bureaucrats coming out and doubling down on the original decision just shows how much they are out of touch.
David Gough appointed as ref.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
Yeah, I remember going to Croke Park in the '00's and really enjoying the experience. I probably was a lot more innocent. Now I rather going to the small town Stadiums. The craic is better outside and inside. The atmosphere is better inside and outside.
Croke Park today represents the Home ground of a hugely dominant Dublin team. A county that is heading for two decades of dominance in Leinster and a decade of Dominance in Ireland.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:07:09 AM
Realistically, what is the cut-off point for resolving this?
Thinking of tickets, logistics etc.
Season tickets being charged tomorrow. I'm assuming clubs will have their tickets by then too.
Of course general sale has been running since yesterday online too. Time is running out tick tock tick tock...
So thus far we've had McGill, Quinn and Prenty making the situation progressively worse.
Where the hell is Tom Ryan?
If he's trying to act as an honest broker behind the scenes, fair enough, but the media response in general has been embarrassing.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:32:04 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
The great one speaks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/john-prenty-capacity-fears-led-to-croke-park-switch-472369.html
Are the CCC actually mental?
How can you expect an attendance that exceeds the number of tickets you've sold by 6,000?
'obviously those two figures are not compatible.'
You can sing that, John.
John has bigger projects on his plate than annoying CCC duties, http://hoganstand.com/article/index/287022?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter.
John Prenty's finest hour. ;D
Always makes me smile.
https://twitter.com/Bazlowry/status/921104021963800576 (https://twitter.com/Bazlowry/status/921104021963800576)
Quote from: yellowcard on June 26, 2018, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
The great one speaks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/john-prenty-capacity-fears-led-to-croke-park-switch-472369.html
Dear god, that logic is just bizarre. How many ticketless people do they expect to turn up to the turnstiles without tickets to get into a round 3 qualifier match, 6,000?
Trying to justify the decision on health and safety grounds is bulls**t. Will there be a crush at the turnstiles or crowd riots outside as the angry masses flock to Newbridge.
The argument that they want to allow as many people see the game as possible is also a fallacy since it is being shown live on Sky which prevents thousands from seeing the match on tv anyway. They have badly misjudged the public's mood on this and all of these bureaucrats coming out and doubling down on the original decision just shows how much they are out of touch.
Where does he get thi notion that thousands are going to riot in Newbridge or even turn up for that matter. Thousands are disappointed each year when they can't get All Ireland final tickets & there are no problems at the ground on the day.
As a mark of support can we all start flying Kildare flags at games from now on. It would be far more relevant that some of the flags that are flying. I would love to see some fella being arrested for carrying one ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:28:33 AM
Joxer goes to Newbridge. :)
https://twitter.com/christymoore45/status/1011546357071597568 (https://twitter.com/christymoore45/status/1011546357071597568)
'Twas in the year '18 in the lovely month of June
When the gadflies were swarmin', and Ewan MacKenna howlin' at the moon
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:43:56 AM
So thus far we've had McGill, Quinn and Prenty making the situation progressively worse.
Where the hell is Tom Ryan?
If he's trying to act as an honest broker behind the scenes, fair enough, but the media response in general has been embarrassing.
Carry On Crisis Managing
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
I'm actually buying a kildare shirt and turning up in Newbridge on Saturday
No surrender
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
Is this a breach of my intellectual property rights?
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
Is this a breach of my intellectual property rights?
Being from Meath I would say you would have to drop the intellectual part if you went to court! ;D
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 11:59:46 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
Is this a breach of my intellectual property rights?
Being from Meath I would say you would have to drop the intellectual part if you went to court! ;D
;D
Perhaps the GAA's line about potential hooliganism in Newbridge came from a simple misunderstanding when somebody made a throwaway comment about Mayo being a shower of bottlers?
While we're on the subject of Twitter, somebody made an interesting point on it earlier, although we may be getting into conspiracy-theory territory a bit.
Cavan can't play at home because of the pitch upgrade and they're drawn at home.
Kildare can play at home (in the CCCs eyes) unless they are drawn against a team with a big travelling support and they are drawn at home against Mayo.
Now, we suddenly have a double-header in Croke Park, which would otherwise be empty this weekend.
Coincidence?
I for one am going to burn Newbridge to the ground if I'm ever forced to set foot in it
There'll be rivers of blood that'll make the battle of Kilcullen look like a tea party
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:06:44 PM
While we're on the subject of Twitter, somebody made an interesting point on it earlier, although we may be getting into conspiracy-theory territory a bit.
Cavan can't play at home because of the pitch upgrade and they're drawn at home.
Kildare can play at home (in the CCCs eyes) unless they are drawn against a team with a big travelling support and they are drawn at home against Mayo.
Now, we suddenly have a double-header in Croke Park, which would otherwise be empty this weekend.
Coincidence?
Does Jim Corr have any thoughts on who we should play midfield? 🤔
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 11:59:46 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
Is this a breach of my intellectual property rights?
Being from Meath I would say you would have to drop the intellectual part if you went to court! ;D
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zCs-OkicOWw/hqdefault.jpg)
Something was said, not good...
BS excuse by the CCCC. It is simple - 8,000 are allowed in and the rest are not.
It is quite simple really, you don't have a ticket then you do not get in.
Unfortunately it would seem that if Kildare continue with this course of action we will not be seeing them in action again next season. I would be nice to see Mayo back up the little man and call out the GAA on their constant bullshit. It isn't just about attending games but everything else that goes on with it - but that isn't going to happen.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 26, 2018, 12:08:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:06:44 PM
While we're on the subject of Twitter, somebody made an interesting point on it earlier, although we may be getting into conspiracy-theory territory a bit.
Cavan can't play at home because of the pitch upgrade and they're drawn at home.
Kildare can play at home (in the CCCs eyes) unless they are drawn against a team with a big travelling support and they are drawn at home against Mayo.
Now, we suddenly have a double-header in Croke Park, which would otherwise be empty this weekend.
Coincidence?
Does Jim Corr have any thoughts on who we should play midfield? 🤔
Andrea & Sharon.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:48:14 AM
John Prenty's finest hour. ;D
Always makes me smile.
https://twitter.com/Bazlowry/status/921104021963800576 (https://twitter.com/Bazlowry/status/921104021963800576)
>:(
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
That's very poor journalism.
Right now the board has
250 Guests, 93 Users (9 Hidden)
I wonder how many non-users are journalists
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:09:46 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 26, 2018, 12:08:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:06:44 PM
While we're on the subject of Twitter, somebody made an interesting point on it earlier, although we may be getting into conspiracy-theory territory a bit.
Cavan can't play at home because of the pitch upgrade and they're drawn at home.
Kildare can play at home (in the CCCs eyes) unless they are drawn against a team with a big travelling support and they are drawn at home against Mayo.
Now, we suddenly have a double-header in Croke Park, which would otherwise be empty this weekend.
Coincidence?
Does Jim Corr have any thoughts on who we should play midfield? 🤔
Andrea & Sharon.
They'd Runaway with it
I'll get me coat
;D
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:06:44 PM
Cavan can't play at home because of the pitch upgrade and they're drawn at home.
Kildare can play at home (in the CCCs eyes) unless they are drawn against a team with a big travelling support and they are drawn at home against Mayo.
Now, we suddenly have a double-header in Croke Park, which would otherwise be empty this weekend.
Coincidence?
Nail on head buck.
I can see the logic €€€€€ there but surely there would have been phone calls to Co Chairmen first and maybe some arm twisting attempted on the Kildare Chair before fixing the 2 games?
It seems to have been a unilateral decision by the 4Cs which has gone tits up as a result.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 26, 2018, 12:12:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:09:46 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 26, 2018, 12:08:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:06:44 PM
While we're on the subject of Twitter, somebody made an interesting point on it earlier, although we may be getting into conspiracy-theory territory a bit.
Cavan can't play at home because of the pitch upgrade and they're drawn at home.
Kildare can play at home (in the CCCs eyes) unless they are drawn against a team with a big travelling support and they are drawn at home against Mayo.
Now, we suddenly have a double-header in Croke Park, which would otherwise be empty this weekend.
Coincidence?
Does Jim Corr have any thoughts on who we should play midfield? 🤔
Andrea & Sharon.
They'd Runaway with it
I'll get me coat
The football would leave you breathless.
Quote from: sid waddell on June 26, 2018, 12:02:16 PM
Perhaps the GAA's line about potential hooliganism in Newbridge came from a simple misunderstanding when somebody made a throwaway comment about Mayo being a shower of bottlers?
The guards are well prepared for any trouble with the snackbox system to be deployed as the below video explains,
https://youtu.be/A2P8QubDT5c
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:08:39 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 11:59:46 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
Is this a breach of my intellectual property rights?
Being from Meath I would say you would have to drop the intellectual part if you went to court! ;D
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zCs-OkicOWw/hqdefault.jpg)
Something was said, not good...
;D ;D ;D
Well done so far Kildare, hold your nerve. Moving the goalposts by cccc is just wrong. Proud of the Gaels in Kildare, but ashamed of the suits at headquarters. The more they say the worse it looks for them.
Kildare press conference at 5pm.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
Is this a breach of my intellectual property rights?
Cavan got a home game. If our pitch would not have been under construction then the game would have gone ahead in Breffni. You see our small county with 70k people spent our money developing our ground so that it could hold a game of a decent size.
Kildare with 400k population spent their money elsewhere, only they can say where.
Tyrone have nothing to do with this, they are the away team and will go wherever they are told by Cavan.
In this instance Cavan took the opportunity to experience croke park again as we dont get there too often. Simple really.
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
Don't Forget Your Shovel
by Ned Quinn
Don't forget your shovel if you want to go to work
Oh don't forget your shovel if you want to go to work
Don't forget your shovel if you want to go to work
Or you'll end up where you came from like the rest of us
Digging, digging, digging. Ow di liddle do.
And don't forget your shoes and socks and shirt and tie
And all
Don't forget your shoes and socks and shirt and tie and all
Mr Milton's afraid you'll make a claim if you take a fall
How's it goin' – Not too bad – Ow di liddle do
And we want it played in Croker but we're always diggin' holes
We want it played in Croker but we're always diggin' holes
Ye want it played in Newbridge but we're always diggin' holes
Well there's one thing you can say – we don't know where we are going.
Any chance of a match – No – OK – Ow di liddle do
And if ye want to do it – we're going to take our ball
If ye want to do it – ye can raise it in the Dail
But ye won't be playin' a football match at all
There's a jacks up in the corner where they won't see you at all.
Mind your flourbags.
The Gah will give us a job, diggin' our way to Annascaul
The Gah will give us a job, diggin' our way to Annascaul
The Gah will give us a job, diggin' our way to Annascaul
And when we're finished diggin' the hole will be deeper and all
Now there's six thousand five hundred and fifty-nine Lillies over there in Newbridge all trying to see the football
and very few of them boys is going to see anything at all
– I think that's terrible.
Don't forget your shovel if you want to go to work
Don't forget your shovel if you want to go to work
Oh, don't forget your shovel if you want to go to work
Or you'll end up where you came from like the rest of us
Digging, digging, digging. Ow di liddle doooooooooooooh
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
Is this a breach of my intellectual property rights?
Cavan got a home game. If our pitch would not have been under construction then the game would have gone ahead in Breffni. You see our small county with 70k people spent our money developing our ground so that it could hold a game of a decent size.
Kildare with 400k population spent their money elsewhere, only they can say where.
Tyrone have nothing to do with this, they are the away team and will go wherever they are told by Cavan.
In this instance Cavan took the opportunity to experience croke park again as we dont get there too often. Simple really.
Close to €200m has been spent on the Curragh Racecourse, Punchestown Racecourse and Naas Racecourse in the last 10 years, horse-racing is the biggest sport in Kildare. But then we know you know very little about other sports already ;)
What kind of stupidity allows you to re-construct a stadium in peak season. Was it the cheap option?
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:19:47 PM
Kildare press conference at 5pm.
Surely the f**k they cant blink first??
Too much support behind them at this stage to back down.
Will be a watershed moment in the association if they stand their ground.
More than likely a statement that they are prepared to go down the legal route
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
(https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.HNSVZw-7x8KWHybJR7uFzwAAAA&pid=Api)
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:19:47 PM
Kildare press conference at 5pm.
Surely the f**k they cant blink first??
Too much support behind them at this stage to back down.
Will be a watershed moment in the association if they stand their ground.
More than likely a statement that they are prepared to go down the legal route
They will step down and Portlaoise will be the alternative venue they will propose!
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:19:47 PM
Kildare press conference at 5pm.
(http://www.ukulelerocks.co.uk/ukulelerocksrhymes/urimages/grandDuke.jpg)
Quote from: Unlaoised on June 26, 2018, 12:28:49 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:19:47 PM
Kildare press conference at 5pm.
Surely the f**k they cant blink first??
Too much support behind them at this stage to back down.
Will be a watershed moment in the association if they stand their ground.
More than likely a statement that they are prepared to go down the legal route
They will step down and Portlaoise will be the alternative venue they will propose!
#Newbridgeornowhere
Quote from: Unlaoised on June 26, 2018, 12:28:49 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:19:47 PM
Kildare press conference at 5pm.
Surely the f**k they cant blink first??
Too much support behind them at this stage to back down.
Will be a watershed moment in the association if they stand their ground.
More than likely a statement that they are prepared to go down the legal route
They will step down and Portlaoise will be the alternative venue they will propose!
Just checked and tickets.ie are selling tickets for Croke Park. Would someone not cop on and stop selling tickets under this mess is resolved.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 12:26:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's interesting how Cavan, and by extension Tyrone, have reacted quite happily to their game being moved to Croke Park.
I don't think people outside Leinster understand that plenty of us are sick of the sight of it and all it has come to represent in recent years.
You are being paraphrased on Twitter Jinxy. You've made it boy, you've made it, proud day for the parish.
https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416 (https://twitter.com/KCsixtyseven/status/1011563225425596416)
Is this a breach of my intellectual property rights?
Cavan got a home game. If our pitch would not have been under construction then the game would have gone ahead in Breffni. You see our small county with 70k people spent our money developing our ground so that it could hold a game of a decent size.
Kildare with 400k population spent their money elsewhere, only they can say where.
Tyrone have nothing to do with this, they are the away team and will go wherever they are told by Cavan.
In this instance Cavan took the opportunity to experience croke park again as we dont get there too often. Simple really.
Close to €200m has been spent on the Curragh Racecourse, Punchestown Racecourse and Naas Racecourse in the last 10 years, horse-racing is the biggest sport in Kildare. But then we know you know very little about other sports already ;)
What kind of stupidity allows you to re-construct a stadium in peak season. Was it the cheap option?
Youve got 400k people. Its up to Kildare GAA to get as much share of that as possible. Its your problem if you cant. Its simple.
We are re-laying our pitch and reconstructing drainage. One summer will sort it for 15 years probably. Vast majority of people in Cavan are ok with that. Your stadium is your biggest asset. Ye should have spent less money poaching players, paying for gyms and protein shakes.
Cannot see Portlaoise being offered as an alternative.
CP still has to be filled.
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:19:47 PM
Kildare press conference at 5pm.
Surely the f**k they cant blink first??
Too much support behind them at this stage to back down.
Will be a watershed moment in the association if they stand their ground.
More than likely a statement that they are prepared to go down the legal route
If they do the Super 8s won't happen on time
Clusterfuck best practice :
Own the bad news.
Make sure colleagues and partners are prepared;
Go public quickly, clearly, and completely;
Be accountable;
Be available.
Candour is a sign of respect.
CLG 0/6
"Policies in motion tend to remain in motion; to change the trajectory of a deeply-entrenched set of initiatives requires the application of political forces of equal momentum. "
Hon Kildare
Option A: Newbridge
Option B: Tullamore/Portlaoise
Option C: Croke Park
Option D: WAR!
A or D are the only acceptable options at this stage.
If they go with C, that is outright capitulation.
If they go with B, what happens to the Cavan/Tyrone game?
Mind you, that applies to A and D as well. ;D
The GAA will step down and play it in Newbridge because legally they don't have a leg to stand on if Kildare decide to go down that route.
It will be an embarassing U turn for GAA officials but I see it as the only solution.
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
Youve got 400k people. Its up to Kildare GAA to get as much share of that as possible. Its your problem if you cant. Its simple.
222,504 (Census of Ireland, 2016)
Horses don't count as people, Itchy.
Even in Kildare.
Quote from: yellowcard on June 26, 2018, 12:35:59 PM
The GAA will step down and play it in Newbridge because legally they don't have a leg to stand on if Kildare decide to go down that route.
It will be an embarassing U turn for GAA officials but I see it as the only solution.
Agree. It is the only sensible course of action. The lessons learned will be to cut out the "make it up as you go along" nonsense from the GAA
Quote from: straightred on June 26, 2018, 12:38:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 26, 2018, 12:35:59 PM
The GAA will step down and play it in Newbridge because legally they don't have a leg to stand on if Kildare decide to go down that route.
It will be an embarassing U turn for GAA officials but I see it as the only solution.
Agree. It is the only sensible course of action. The lessons learned will be to cut out the "make it up as you go along" nonsense from the GAA
And Cavan have approximately 11k
If the GAA had any sense or vision they would back down on this. Playing this game in Newbridge would ensure massive interest in this game, sky's viewership would be off the charts and everyone would want to see what happens in Newbridge, plus you have 2 teams that play open football. This could be a massive win for the GAA if they had the vision to realize this, bad news is good news if they are smart enough to understand that and forego the extra 200 grand they would get at the gate.
In my opinion, the GAA need to be careful, there are other sports competing for players and spectators, the defensive blanket has made most games unwatchable and the last thing they need now is the perception that they are a dictatorship.
A rip roaring game in front of a packed house at Newbridge might just be the tonic the championship needs.
Do the smart thing GAA before ye lose a lot of followers (myself incliuded)...
If the GAA relent and play the game in Newbridge just watch the T & C's being hastily changed for season tickets as well as qualifiers and super 8's.
They wont be caught like this again
My prediction:
GAA back down - Kildare get a boost and the crowd will add an electric atmosphere and the lilywhites will put a stuttering Mayo side out of their misery!
SKY LOSE THEIR MINES IN THE ANALYSIS
Itchy has been waiting for this day since Seanie uttered those immortal words 'I'll have a size 32 hurley please'.
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 26, 2018, 12:43:50 PM
If the GAA had any sense or vision they would back down on this. Playing this game in Newbridge would ensure massive interest in this game, sky's viewership would be off the charts and everyone would want to see what happens in Newbridge, plus you have 2 teams that play open football. This could be a massive win for the GAA if they had the vision to realize this, bad news is good news if they are smart enough to understand that and forego the extra 200 grand they would get at the gate.
In my opinion, the GAA need to be careful, there are other sports competing for players and spectators, the defensive blanket has made most games unwatchable and the last thing they need now is the perception that they are a dictatorship.
A rip roaring game in front of a packed house at Newbridge might just be the tonic the championship needs.
Do the smart thing GAA before ye lose a lot of followers (myself incliuded)...
;D ;D
Still selling tickets for Croke Park I see. They love their double headers, you pay more money to watch one match. Another reason to tell croke Park to piss off, no supporter has had to endure rip-off double headers than Kildare. FFS in 2008 we had to pay the price of AI Hurling Semi-final just to watch Kildare play Cork
Michael Duignan @DuignanMichael · 17 hil y a 17 heures
Fully support stand being taken by @KildareGAA & Cian O Neill. I have been saying it for a few years now, the GAA have lost touch with the grassroots. It's about money yes but also displays huge arrogance which is becoming more common. Players & supporters now only commodities.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 12:58:11 PM
Still selling tickets for Croke Park I see. They love their double headers, you pay more money to watch one match. Another reason to tell croke Park to piss off, no supporter has had to endure rip-off double headers than Kildare. FFS in 2008 we had to pay the price of AI Hurling Semi-final just to watch Kildare play Cork
As did we in 09 when we played Meath. Still backing KE on this one.
Say it all comes to a walk over for mayo because kildare hold their ground and gaa don't back down, is there any precedent in place as to what sanctions kildare could likely face? Expulsion from competition which wouldn't mean much?, fine? Suspensions? Although through appeals I'd be shocked at anything sticking
Quote from: tippabu on June 26, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Say it all comes to a walk over for mayo because kildare hold their ground and gaa don't back down, is there any precedent in place as to what sanctions kildare could likely face? Expulsion from competition which wouldn't mean much?, fine? Suspensions? Although through appeals I'd be shocked at anything sticking
Exclusion from 2019 league & championship.
Their participation in 2019 would be in jeopardy, I think.
How can they face sanctions when they have not broken any rules? If anyone has shown disregard for the rules it is the GAA itself.
The rule they've broken would be failing to fulfill the fixture.
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 12:46:39 PM
If the GAA relent and play the game in Newbridge just watch the T & C's being hastily changed for season tickets as well as qualifiers and super 8's.
They wont be caught like this again
Its already in the season ticket T&Cs
"In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture"
Failing to fulfil a fixture because GAA took away the home advantage they are entitled to under the rules stated.
Quote from: Solo_run on June 26, 2018, 01:08:47 PM
How can they face sanctions when they have not broken any rules? If anyone has shown disregard for the rules it is the GAA itself.
Yes but this is the GAA we are on about. They do what they want.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
Leadership from Mayo is what's needed now.
Quote from: mup on June 26, 2018, 01:12:54 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on June 26, 2018, 01:08:47 PM
How can they face sanctions when they have not broken any rules? If anyone has shown disregard for the rules it is the GAA itself.
Yes but this is the GAA we are on about. They do what they want.
The ones changing the rules need to realise the GAA is based on representatives from the 32 counties of Ireland. Not a bunch of knobheads in suits.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
Not all members of the CCCC wear suits . One wears purple pullovers.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 01:05:02 PM
Quote from: tippabu on June 26, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Say it all comes to a walk over for mayo because kildare hold their ground and gaa don't back down, is there any precedent in place as to what sanctions kildare could likely face? Expulsion from competition which wouldn't mean much?, fine? Suspensions? Although through appeals I'd be shocked at anything sticking
Exclusion from 2019 league & championship.
Really....please go ahead with it so as will help us greatly in division 2 next year!! Seriously though, it will never come to that, if it did and after appeals and what not all out strike from the players and gpa in support is the only way to hit back in support.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:34:20 PM
If they go with B, what happens to the Cavan/Tyrone game?
If the GAA had any sense, they'd play it in Clones.
No Round 4 qualifiers in Croke Park so can see why their so desperate to get the double header to Croker.
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
Before Willie Joe there was the man with a distrust of sunscreen:
http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/287059
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:42:49 AM
David Gough appointed as ref.
Will he go to Croker or Newbridge?
Surely to god common sense will prevail and Kildare retain home advantage. Cant see much wiggle room for HQ given the rules for the draw. Take it then change the rules for next year. Or will good aul Health and Safety play a part? Watch tomorrows next eposide of the GAA v Kildare
Quote from: inthrough on June 26, 2018, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 26, 2018, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
The great one speaks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/john-prenty-capacity-fears-led-to-croke-park-switch-472369.html
Dear god, that logic is just bizarre. How many ticketless people do they expect to turn up to the turnstiles without tickets to get into a round 3 qualifier match, 6,000?
Trying to justify the decision on health and safety grounds is bulls**t. Will there be a crush at the turnstiles or crowd riots outside as the angry masses flock to Newbridge.
The argument that they want to allow as many people see the game as possible is also a fallacy since it is being shown live on Sky which prevents thousands from seeing the match on tv anyway. They have badly misjudged the public's mood on this and all of these bureaucrats coming out and doubling down on the original decision just shows how much they are out of touch.
Where does he get thi notion that thousands are going to riot in Newbridge or even turn up for that matter. Thousands are disappointed each year when they can't get All Ireland final tickets & there are no problems at the ground on the day.
As a mark of support can we all start flying Kildare flags at games from now on. It would be far more relevant that some of the flags that are flying. I would love to see some fella being arrested for carrying one ;D ;D ;D ;D
We do that already, every umpire and linesman in the country is used to waving Kildare flags.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:42:49 AM
David Gough appointed as ref.
Will he go to Croker or Newbridge?
Anyone else not that sold on him? He gives so many soft frees which always appears to benefit the forward.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: inthrough on June 26, 2018, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 26, 2018, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
The great one speaks
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/john-prenty-capacity-fears-led-to-croke-park-switch-472369.html
Dear god, that logic is just bizarre. How many ticketless people do they expect to turn up to the turnstiles without tickets to get into a round 3 qualifier match, 6,000?
Trying to justify the decision on health and safety grounds is bulls**t. Will there be a crush at the turnstiles or crowd riots outside as the angry masses flock to Newbridge.
The argument that they want to allow as many people see the game as possible is also a fallacy since it is being shown live on Sky which prevents thousands from seeing the match on tv anyway. They have badly misjudged the public's mood on this and all of these bureaucrats coming out and doubling down on the original decision just shows how much they are out of touch.
Where does he get thi notion that thousands are going to riot in Newbridge or even turn up for that matter. Thousands are disappointed each year when they can't get All Ireland final tickets & there are no problems at the ground on the day.
As a mark of support can we all start flying Kildare flags at games from now on. It would be far more relevant that some of the flags that are flying. I would love to see some fella being arrested for carrying one ;D ;D ;D ;D
We do that already, every umpire and linesman in the country is used to waving Kildare flags.
Until Kildare forwards started shooting at the umpires for much of Micko's time.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:42:49 AM
David Gough appointed as ref.
Will he go to Croker or Newbridge?
He'll be revving the engine in Citywest until he gets the call on Saturday.
Quote from: Carbery on June 26, 2018, 10:03:25 AM
Let us trust that Kildare will hold firm on this and not sell their soul.
About to find out Lily Whites of Lily Livered?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 26, 2018, 01:11:41 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 12:46:39 PM
If the GAA relent and play the game in Newbridge just watch the T & C's being hastily changed for season tickets as well as qualifiers and super 8's.
They wont be caught like this again
Its already in the season ticket T&Cs
"In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture"
Well then the smallprint for qualifiers and super 8's will be hastily changed after the GAA agree to fixture in Newbridge
I'll put a gypsy curse on Kildare if they back down now.
100 pages before tomorrow?
Quickest thread to 100 pages ever!
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 01:38:26 PM
I'll put a gypsy curse on Kildare if they back down now.
Is Mother Hubbards still serving that on the menu?
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 26, 2018, 01:15:19 PM
Leadership from Mayo is what's needed now.
No, leadership from Tom Ryan is what is needed now.
The longer he remains silent the worse this situation gets. His lieutenants have spoken already to try and justify the decision and saying they are not for budging. He needs to take control of this situation so that plans can be put in place because at the moment the whole championship scheduling is in limbo.
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
Quote from: Square Ball on June 26, 2018, 01:32:25 PM
Surely to god common sense will prevail and Kildare retain home advantage. Cant see much wiggle room for HQ given the rules for the draw. Take it then change the rules for next year. Or will good aul Health and Safety play a part? Watch tomorrows next eposide of the GAA v Kildare
Surely that's the problem, that the rules of the draw did not take into account stadium capacity/H&S issues? It's a mammoth oversight on the part of the GAA, when you think about it, to think that this might not happen... If Kildare stand firm, which I think they will (and should), it's gonna look very embarrassing for HQ..
Cian O'Neill's press conference scheduled for 5pm is OFF due to "work commitments".
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 01:32:12 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
Before Willie Joe there was the man with a distrust of sunscreen:
http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/287059
Maughan makes a good point. Kildare went straight for the nuclear option, it leaves no room for manoeuvre
Quote from: spuds on June 26, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
Mayo news podcast is a really good listen, one of the better podcasts around; Thankfully WJ doesn't have a huge input it when I've listened. He has a very high opinion of himself.
Quote from: spuds on June 26, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
It's fairly straightforward to process refunds for online purchases.
Refunds for everyone and then new tickets issued through the clubs.
To Be honest, I think the most likely scenario at the moment is that the mayo are awarded the game (unless Kildare go legal before saturday!)
Quote from: sid waddell on June 26, 2018, 01:48:58 PM
Cian O'Neill's press conference scheduled for 5pm is OFF due to "work commitments".
???
The back-channel between Washington and Moscow must be open.
Tough shit if supporters miss out. Play the game in Newbridge and be done with it. Both teams are threading water in the grand scheme of things this year anyway. Axe will inevitability fall on each team sooner rather than later.
I wonder is Cian O Neill secretly delighted with the limelight he's getting, has always struck me as a man who talks the talk . Remember the occlusion goggles shite... :-[
Quote from: westbound on June 26, 2018, 01:51:01 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 26, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
It's fairly straightforward to process refunds for online purchases.
Refunds for everyone and then new tickets issued through the clubs.
To Be honest, I think the most likely scenario at the moment is that the mayo are awarded the game (unless Kildare go legal before saturday!)
from the outside looking in i'd say the following are the probabilities in this order
Walkover for Mayo - most likely
Match in Newbridge - possible
Match in Portloaise or another neutral venue - unlikely
Match in Croke Park - very unlikely
The way I see it, Kildare don't really have anything to lose here, given that they have the moral high-ground, the backing of the wider GAA community and a legitimate legal case.
What is the absolute worst-case scenario here for the GAA?
If they give Mayo the walkover, they risk disrupting the entire championship season as the DRA, courts etc. will be then brought into play.
At the moment, I would say they are looking at a compromise, i.e. Tullamore, BUT if Kildare dig their heels in, HQ will ultimately give in.
They lose face, but with modern news cycles, everyone will move onto the Super 8s and they can draw a line under the saga.
The interesting bit for me is that they will then almost certainly try and legislate to prevent this happening again, i.e. you are awarded home advantage at the pleasure of the CCC and we have the final say.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 01:35:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:42:49 AM
David Gough appointed as ref.
Will he go to Croker or Newbridge?
Anyone else not that sold on him? He gives so many soft frees which always appears to benefit the forward.
He fairly clamped down on ye're lot in Salthill last year unlike Coldrick ;)
It's such a tight schedule this year, a threat of legal action that would delay the championship is surely the only thing left that would focus the minds of the hierarchy at this point. They've comprehensively lost the PR battle, the bullshit talk of possible "animosity" between the fans outside Newbridge is - for me personally - so, so disappointing to hear, I'm disgusted with them to be very honest. That is not my experience of 99% of GAA fans.
I'm someone who would have defended the GAA strongly on many issues in the face of (sometimes warranted, other times completely unwarranted) huge criticism from other Irish people who basically wish it didn't exist. It's very hard to accept some of the rhetoric coming from the top about this and it'll be very hard to defend accusations of "Grab All Association" if Kildare are thrown out of the championship so the GAA could just make some more money off the back of one of the best supported counties in the country.
Fair fucks to Kildare GAA on this, I hope they are not forced into a climb-down, although if the press conference at 5pm has been cancelled who knows what the next development will be.
Walkover for Mayo - Unlikely
Match in Newbridge - Most likely
Match in Portloaise or another neutral venue - Likely
Match in Croke Park - very unlikely
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 01:39:20 PM
100 pages before tomorrow?
Quickest thread to 100 pages ever!
Isn't it great there's so much interest in a round 3 qualifier. And people say the championship is losing followers 😁😁😁
One way or the other, I've a feeling we will have a decision this evening.
I think O'Neill was asked to pull the press conference to facilitate this.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:02:47 PM
One way or the other, I've a feeling we will have a decision this evening.
I think O'Neill was asked to pull the press conference to facilitate this.
There has to be a decision asap given there are 4 counties involved not to mention supporters already paying out their hard earned cash for a double header that doesnt exist
I'm kind of hoping Cavan and Tyrone are sent back to Brewster back but Tyrone refuse to go and demand the game goes ahead in Croke Park.
We need to pull Tyrone into this mess somehow in order to hit DEFCON 1.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 26, 2018, 02:00:45 PM
It's such a tight schedule this year, a threat of legal action that would delay the championship is surely the only thing left that would focus the minds of the hierarchy at this point. They've comprehensively lost the PR battle, the bullshit talk of possible "animosity" between the fans outside Newbridge is - for me personally - so, so disappointing to hear, I'm disgusted with them to be very honest. That is not my experience of 99% of GAA fans.
I'm someone who would have defended the GAA strongly on many issues in the face of (sometimes warranted, other times completely unwarranted) huge criticism from other Irish people who basically wish it didn't exist. It's very hard to accept some of the rhetoric coming from the top about this and it'll be very hard to defend accusations of "Grab All Association" if Kildare are thrown out of the championship so the GAA could just make some more money off the back of one of the best supported counties in the country.
Fair f**ks to Kildare GAA on this, I hope they are not forced into a climb-down, although if the press conference at 5pm has been cancelled who knows what the next development will be.
Thats a good omen. It probably means that common sense is prevailing and people are talking to each other behind closed doors
In respect to the centenary of the 1918 final we should play the 2018 final in February next. Loadsa time for arbitration and negative GAA headlines. Everyones a winner.
1918 16 February 1919 Wexford 0–5 Tipperary 0–4 Croke Park 12,000
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 02:00:02 PM
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Quote from: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:42:49 AM
David Gough appointed as ref.
Will he go to Croker or Newbridge?
Anyone else not that sold on him? He gives so many soft frees which always appears to benefit the forward.
He fairly clamped down on ye're lot in Salthill last year unlike Coldrick ;)
You mean incorrectly awarding free's to Roscommon ;D although I didn't look at the ones Galway got.
He was at it again on Sunday, I have no idea what some free's were awarded for
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 01:35:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 11:42:49 AM
David Gough appointed as ref.
Will he go to Croker or Newbridge?
Anyone else not that sold on him? He gives so many soft frees which always appears to benefit the forward.
He fairly clamped down on ye're lot in Salthill last year unlike Coldrick ;)
You mean incorrectly awarding free's to Roscommon ;D although I didn't look at the ones Galway got.
He was at it again on Sunday, I have no idea what some free's were awarded for
Fouls off the ball are still fouls! ;)
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 01:50:18 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 26, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
Mayo news podcast is a really good listen, one of the better podcasts around; Thankfully WJ doesn't have a huge input it when I've listened. He has a very high opinion of himself.
Rob Murphy seems to be the main man behind that podcast.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 26, 2018, 02:00:45 PM
It's such a tight schedule this year, a threat of legal action that would delay the championship is surely the only thing left that would focus the minds of the hierarchy at this point. They've comprehensively lost the PR battle, the bullshit talk of possible "animosity" between the fans outside Newbridge is - for me personally - so, so disappointing to hear, I'm disgusted with them to be very honest. That is not my experience of 99% of GAA fans.
I'm someone who would have defended the GAA strongly on many issues in the face of (sometimes warranted, other times completely unwarranted) huge criticism from other Irish people who basically wish it didn't exist. It's very hard to accept some of the rhetoric coming from the top about this and it'll be very hard to defend accusations of "Grab All Association" if Kildare are thrown out of the championship so the GAA could just make some more money off the back of one of the best supported counties in the country.
Fair f**ks to Kildare GAA on this, I hope they are not forced into a climb-down, although if the press conference at 5pm has been cancelled who knows what the next development will be.
Totally agree on this. I hope they don't back down - the GAA "Civil Service" in Croke Park could do with a reminder on whose behalf they are in those paid positions. The trouble is that the GAA is a democratic organisation and I'm wondering if we as members have let it get into this state by sheer combination of failing to hold club & county delegates to account, failure to read briefings and not taking ownership of this drift away from grassroots!
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 01:50:18 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 26, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
Mayo news podcast is a really good listen, one of the better podcasts around; Thankfully WJ doesn't have a huge input it when I've listened. He has a very high opinion of himself.
Rob Murphy seems to be the main man behind that podcast.
Why did he have the bright idea to invite an internet person to be a host of the podcast? It'd be like Seamus Duke getting Rossfan on Mid-West for co-commentary or something. It seems to have only increased his ego.
The game will go ahead in Croke Park.
You can't be telling the CCCC where you will and won't play the game.
Conleth's park needs millions spent on it. Kildare get get support from the GAA to sort this and move on.
If they get beaten in Croke park at least they can blame someone.
Cavan and Tyrone very silent on the matter.
No solidarity from Tyrone.
Shameful.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 26, 2018, 02:02:12 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 01:39:20 PM
100 pages before tomorrow?
Quickest thread to 100 pages ever!
Isn't it great there's so much interest in a round 3 qualifier. And people say the championship is losing followers 😁😁😁
The problem is that we are talking about something off the field of play. We want to be talking more about what is happening on the field of play!
This only shows how far we have fallen that the only interest is in a falling out about a venue!
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 26, 2018, 02:00:45 PM
They've comprehensively lost the PR battle, the bullshit talk of possible "animosity" between the fans outside Newbridge is - for me personally - so, so disappointing to hear, I'm disgusted with them to be very honest. That is not my experience of 99% of GAA fans.
This Ned Quinn fella has come out with the most ridiculous statement re the GAA and fans I've ever read and him a chairman at the highest levels in Croke Park, the mind boggles. Not only is it a complete and utter PR disaster re this issue, but outsiders reading this absolute waffle may even believe this clown, crazy crazy stuff....indeed a PR disaster of epic proportions
Syf I'll only go on Shannonside or nowhere!!
Mid fkn west indeed.......humpf.
I believe Leitrim and Monaghan have offered to play at Croker instead so Sky still get their double header at the one venue.
Tyrone lost home advantage in 2001 and 2002 to Armagh who went on to win Sam.
Can we ask for a reply of that one now too?
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 01:50:18 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 26, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
Mayo news podcast is a really good listen, one of the better podcasts around; Thankfully WJ doesn't have a huge input it when I've listened. He has a very high opinion of himself.
Rob Murphy seems to be the main man behind that podcast.
Rob Murphy is a sound lad, knew him well back during my time in Ballinrobe CS. The Mayo News podcast is very well produced and a great resource for Mayo fans pre and post matches. I'm a Galway man but I regularly listen to it myself.
That said it was better before Gunnigan got involved as a contributor, I'm not a fan of him or some of the nonsense he comes out with.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
No solidarity from Tyrone.
Shameful.
Mickey took one look at the referendum result in Kildare and that was that.
The game will go ahead in Newbridge, lads.
Trust me.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
No solidarity from Tyrone.
Shameful.
Tyrone are cap in hand with SKY TV. They won't want to make waves. Sad but true.
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 26, 2018, 02:34:15 PM
I believe Leitrim and Monaghan have offered to play at Croker instead so Sky still get their double header at the one venue.
Tyrone lost home advantage in 2001 and 2002 to Armagh who went on to win Sam.
Can we ask for a reply of that one now too?
It is not being driven by Sky.
Quote from: longballin on June 26, 2018, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
No solidarity from Tyrone.
Shameful.
Tyrone are cap in hand with SKY TV. They won't want to make waves. Sad but true.
Lol you're a broken record at this stage.
Quote from: easytiger95 on June 26, 2018, 02:40:47 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 26, 2018, 02:34:15 PM
I believe Leitrim and Monaghan have offered to play at Croker instead so Sky still get their double header at the one venue.
Tyrone lost home advantage in 2001 and 2002 to Armagh who went on to win Sam.
Can we ask for a reply of that one now too?
It is not being driven by Sky.
maybe not, but now as a major stakeholder in our amateur association, they'll be having their say / input
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 26, 2018, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: longballin on June 26, 2018, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
No solidarity from Tyrone.
Shameful.
Tyrone are cap in hand with SKY TV. They won't want to make waves. Sad but true.
Lol you're a broken record at this stage.
The truth will set you free when the penny drops. Sad it needs repeated.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 01:50:18 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 26, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
Mayo news podcast is a really good listen, one of the better podcasts around; Thankfully WJ doesn't have a huge input it when I've listened. He has a very high opinion of himself.
Rob Murphy seems to be the main man behind that podcast.
Rob use to run a great grassroots rugby website knockon.ie I was a contributor to his podcasts, won funding from the Irish Times in a startup comp but it just couldn't work as a subscription model. Good guy.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:37:04 PM
The game will go ahead in Newbridge, lads.
Trust me.
I have that feeling myself.
Quote from: longballin on June 26, 2018, 02:48:32 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 26, 2018, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: longballin on June 26, 2018, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
No solidarity from Tyrone.
Shameful.
Tyrone are cap in hand with SKY TV. They won't want to make waves. Sad but true.
Lol you're a broken record at this stage.
The truth will set you free when the penny drops. Sad it needs repeated.
You really are hard to listen to.....
Kildare will not turn up at Croke park ! Thst much is evident! Somebody got to take a stand! Will croke park be issuing refunds all round? Gaa broke their own rules about the format first!
Christy Moore on the case now 8)
Has tweeted...
@ChristyMoore45
GAA dream quarter finals
Garth Brooks v Bruce Springsteen
Ed Sheeran v U2
The Dubs v The pope
Rihanna v Conor McGregor #NEWBRIDGEORNOWHERE
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 02:48:37 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 01:50:18 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 26, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
Mayo news podcast is a really good listen, one of the better podcasts around; Thankfully WJ doesn't have a huge input it when I've listened. He has a very high opinion of himself.
Rob Murphy seems to be the main man behind that podcast.
Rob use to run a great grassroots rugby website knockon.ie I was a contributor to his podcasts, won funding from the Irish Times in a startup comp but it just couldn't work as a subscription model. Good guy.
Didn't know that but he seems a good fella and does his part promoting and covering Connacht rugby as there always was a small but loyal rugby community in Ballinrobe.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
No solidarity from Tyrone.
Shameful.
We didnt object to going to Navan either.
Quote from: longballin on June 26, 2018, 02:56:59 PM
Christy Moore on the case now 8)
Has tweeted...
@ChristyMoore45
GAA dream quarter finals
Garth Brooks v Bruce Springsteen
Ed Sheeran v U2
The Dubs v The pope
Rihanna v Conor McGregor #NEWBRIDGEORNOWHERE
No Brush Shiels?
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 26, 2018, 02:02:12 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2018, 01:39:20 PM
100 pages before tomorrow?
Quickest thread to 100 pages ever!
Isn't it great there's so much interest in a round 3 qualifier. And people say the championship is losing followers 😁😁😁
Interestingly I'd say when the draw was made Newbridge would have been fit to hold the crowd just about. But given the way this has exploded, Croker mightn't be able to hold the crowd. ;D
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
I don't see how you've drawn that conclusion - if anything I'd say they'll be far more together.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 26, 2018, 10:55:54 AM
Its a f**king disaster for Mayo, we don't need this kid of distraction
It is also a great rally call for this Kildare team to come out and lay into us. Lets face it we are in a fragile state due to injuries and lads coming back from injury at the moment!!
I see the opposite lads. Mayo in the back ground fully focused on the game not caring where its played while too much back ground noise for Kildare and will be unable to focus on the game at all. Won't be surprised if Mayo win this game easier than the last one.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2018, 03:10:30 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 26, 2018, 10:55:54 AM
Its a f**king disaster for Mayo, we don't need this kid of distraction
It is also a great rally call for this Kildare team to come out and lay into us. Lets face it we are in a fragile state due to injuries and lads coming back from injury at the moment!!
I see the opposite lads. Mayo in the back ground fully focused on the game not caring where its played while too much back ground noise for Kildare and will be unable to focus on the game at all. Won't be surprised if Mayo win this game easier than the last one.
Or maybe it'll fire up Kildare
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
On that basis, I'm sure you'll support the proposal that Dublin should have no Super 8 matches in Croke Park.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
Missing person alert.
There is a village somewhere missing its' idiot.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
At what exact point did you turn into a troll account, because I remember years ago that you were quite a reasoned poster? Was it when people started pointing out the unfair advantages Dublin enjoyed or the money they were given?
Quote from: joemamas on June 26, 2018, 01:21:18 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 25, 2018, 11:59:53 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2018, 11:21:34 PM
Bernard Flynn not impressed with Cian.
@bernardflynn15
OK let's call a spade a spade ,and anyone who really knows down deep the way really good teams and managers work .....would ask the question tonight " WHAT IN GODs NAME WAS CIAN O NEIL DOING ON TV TONIGHT" #eyeofftheball
I like Bernard Flynn and listened to him on 2FM earlier where his opinion seemed to flip flop about 3 or 4 times during the course of the interview. He's a sensationalist and I wouldn't take him too seriously as he sometimes goes off on tangents but I'd say he'd be good craic on a night out!
Sensationalist my arse, he is stupid.
The flip flopping is par for the course.
I am surprised he was able to spell o Neill's name correctly,
Oh wait he didn't ;D ;D ;D ;D shocker
Jinxy , Juice,
Anyway you could get Bernard to moderate the 5pm conference call, I will ask Maughan.
I for one would pay for the entertainment.
Oh, in case anybody missed it.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2018, 01:50:18 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 26, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 12:22:35 PM
Mayo happy to play 'wherever we're told to go'
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973307-mayo-happy-to-play-wherever-were-told-to-go/)
Watery enough but probably wise not to add fuel to the fire.
More sense than Willie Joe has thankfully.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327 (http://mayogaablog.com/?p=23327)
The guy that runs that blog is absolutely insufferable. Thankfully the Mayo posters on here are more sensible than that gombeen.
He has his moments alright but his platform is based on being a super duper Mayo fan. If you read his posts then you are likely looking to be offended, I avoid mostly but hear him on the Mayo News podcast who have some good people on board. Read some Facebook comments by Galway fans (mostly avoidable), cringe at the 3 billboards outside Manulla (unavoidable), etc and make your choices.
Have no issue with game being played in Newbridge, better atmosphere and craic to be had. Major disadvantages for me is the poor viewing with a crowd present along with so many people who will miss out with the limited capacity but that's not reason enough to go to Croke park.
What happens now if game reverts to Newbridge to those Ticketmaster tickets if place is over subscribed?
Mayo news podcast is a really good listen, one of the better podcasts around; Thankfully WJ doesn't have a huge input it when I've listened. He has a very high opinion of himself.
Why is a common Joe like WJ allowed on a Mayo news podcast at all? and not only him on it he had his brother and young son giving their views during some podcasts.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 26, 2018, 02:51:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:37:04 PM
The game will go ahead in Newbridge, lads.
Trust me.
I have that feeling myself.
It will be made into a film after an emotional late Kildare goal
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 03:18:44 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 26, 2018, 02:51:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:37:04 PM
The game will go ahead in Newbridge, lads.
Trust me.
I have that feeling myself.
It will be made into a film after an emotional late Kildare goal
Ah no no more late drama please, if the Kildare lads are going to beat us do the decent thing and beat us comprehensively like the Kerry lads use to do in the noughties!!
Quote from: LeoMc on June 26, 2018, 03:00:21 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
No solidarity from Tyrone.
Shameful.
We didnt object to going to Navan either.
We objected to you coming though.
Anybody attending the pre-match bare knuckle brawl between the respective "firms" at Donnelly's Hollow at 4pm on Saturday?
It's going to be propah nawwwty.
I hear Danny Dyer will be there to record it for a documentary about Ireland's savage gangs of GAA hooligans.
#greenandredstreet
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 26, 2018, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: longballin on June 26, 2018, 02:48:32 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 26, 2018, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: longballin on June 26, 2018, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
No solidarity from Tyrone.
Shameful.
Tyrone are cap in hand with SKY TV. They won't want to make waves. Sad but true.
Lol you're a broken record at this stage.
The truth will set you free when the penny drops. Sad it needs repeated.
You really are hard to listen to.....
Good 8)
Ned Quinn is going to show up in a Mayo jersey looking for trouble.
#falseflag
Sky must be loving this. This game if played in Newbridge will attract record viewers for many reasons including the Mayo and Kildare fans that can't get tickets and the national attention this is getting. It's a no lose situation for Sky.
As I said earlier, I hope the gaa realize that playing this in Newbridge will resurrect interest into a so far tepid championship, they need to be very careful here, using threats is not good publicity, and whether we like it or not the gaa is in the entertainment business.
Kildare abu...
Sligoman, do you work for SKY?
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfill the fixture.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 03:24:35 PM
Ned Quinn is going to show up in a Mayo jersey looking for trouble.
#falseflag
Ned Quinn's legacy
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 26, 2018, 03:27:01 PM
Sky must be living this. This game if played in Newbridge will attract record viewers for many reasons including the Mayo and Kildare fans that can't get tickets and the national attention this is getting. It's a no lose situation for Sky, they must be loving this.
As I said earlier, I hope the gaa realize that playing this in Newbridge will resurrect interest into a so far tepid championship, they need to be very careful here, using threats is not good publicity, and whether we like it or not the gaa is in the entertainment business.
Kildare abu...
Ehh, Sky attracts maybe 40k viewers for a big, big, big match. They really don't care about viewership. The GAA rights are a way to keep Irish Sky Sports subscribers on the hook in the summer months when the EPL is out of season, nothing more. It's a means to an end for them.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfill the fixture.
Any sign at all in Kildare that HQ will do the sensible thing and put the game on in Newbridge?
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 03:27:53 PM
Sligoman, do you work for SKY?
No, but have an iCloud account.
Seriously, no I don't, I live in New York but just stating the facts as I see them. The more debate and controversy, the more viewers, they must be licking their chops..
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfill the fixture.
Nuclear button pressed.
QuoteA press conference scheduled by Kildare GAA manager, Cian O'Neill, for this evening at the Manguard Centre of Excellence in Hawkfield, has been cancelled, with the manager citing 'work commitments.'
However the Leinster Leader understands that Kildare Co. Board has officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfil the Round 3 Qualifier in Croke Park against Mayo on Saturday.
According to GAA Rules a team not fulfilling a fixture must inform Croke Park 48 hours prior to the fixture and while the Co. Board has already informed the authorities they will not be travelling on Saturday, they must do so again 48 hours out from the time of the game.
Assuming that the Croke Park authorities then award the game to Mayo the appeal process will then kick in.
Kildare's next option will be to appeal to the Central Hearings Committee.
If that fails, the next step is to appeal to the Croke Park Appeals Committee.
If that committee rejects the appeal then it would no doubt head to the DRA (Disputes Resolution Authority). This is a committee made up of legal experts, independent of the GAA and is usually the final appeal process but going to the High Court can never be ruled out either.
We await developments, but one thing is for sure if Croke Park did not think Kildare were serious in this entire mess they are certainly fully aware at this stage they are.
Ball in Croke Park's court. They are getting slaughtered PR wise.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfill the fixture.
Nuclear button pressed.
QuoteA press conference scheduled by Kildare GAA manager, Cian O'Neill, for this evening at the Manguard Centre of Excellence in Hawkfield, has been cancelled, with the manager citing 'work commitments.'
However the Leinster Leader understands that Kildare Co. Board has officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfil the Round 3 Qualifier in Croke Park against Mayo on Saturday.
According to GAA Rules a team not fulfilling a fixture must inform Croke Park 48 hours prior to the fixture and while the Co. Board has already informed the authorities they will not be travelling on Saturday, they must do so again 48 hours out from the time of the game.
Assuming that the Croke Park authorities then award the game to Mayo the appeal process will then kick in.
Kildare's next option will be to appeal to the Central Hearings Committee.
If that fails, the next step is to appeal to the Croke Park Appeals Committee.
If that committee rejects the appeal then it would no doubt head to the DRA (Disputes Resolution Authority). This is a committee made up of legal experts, independent of the GAA and is usually the final appeal process but going to the High Court can never be ruled out either.
We await developments, but one thing is for sure if Croke Park did not think Kildare were serious in this entire mess they are certainly fully aware at this stage they are.
Ball in Croke Park's court. They are getting slaughtered PR wise.
Best now for KCB, CO'N and the players to shut up shop and keep their counsel. Let Croke Park continue to bungle and lose credibility with each talking head they put in front of the media. Turn up in Newbridge on Saturday. If there is a match v Mayo then great. If not, play Moorefield in a challenge. Everyone in attendance can make a donation to pay off whatever fine they impose on us. I've never seen the county as energised on an issue.
Quote from: mup on June 26, 2018, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
Missing person alert.
There is a village somewhere missing its' idiot.
In fairness, Kildare wouldn't be doing this if they had a winnable fixture and realistic ambitions of a prolonged championship campaign.
So they've not much to lose by pulling the tent down.
Can anybody name the members that make up the CCCC committee.
All joking aside, this is snowballing into a complete shit-show.
Needs to be resolved one way or the other.
The H&C need to explain their rational, by dropping the attendance levels so low.
It is not like every person attending is 6.6 and 200 lbs.
If Kildare were half as aggressive on the field as over the media they'd be racking up Sam Maguires by the dozens
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:41:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfill the fixture.
Nuclear button pressed.
QuoteA press conference scheduled by Kildare GAA manager, Cian O'Neill, for this evening at the Manguard Centre of Excellence in Hawkfield, has been cancelled, with the manager citing 'work commitments.'
However the Leinster Leader understands that Kildare Co. Board has officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfil the Round 3 Qualifier in Croke Park against Mayo on Saturday.
According to GAA Rules a team not fulfilling a fixture must inform Croke Park 48 hours prior to the fixture and while the Co. Board has already informed the authorities they will not be travelling on Saturday, they must do so again 48 hours out from the time of the game.
Assuming that the Croke Park authorities then award the game to Mayo the appeal process will then kick in.
Kildare's next option will be to appeal to the Central Hearings Committee.
If that fails, the next step is to appeal to the Croke Park Appeals Committee.
If that committee rejects the appeal then it would no doubt head to the DRA (Disputes Resolution Authority). This is a committee made up of legal experts, independent of the GAA and is usually the final appeal process but going to the High Court can never be ruled out either.
We await developments, but one thing is for sure if Croke Park did not think Kildare were serious in this entire mess they are certainly fully aware at this stage they are.
Ball in Croke Park's court. They are getting slaughtered PR wise.
Best now for KCB, CO'N and the players to shut up shop and keep their counsel. Let Croke Park continue to bungle and lose credibility with each talking head they put in front of the media. Turn up in Newbridge on Saturday. If there is a match v Mayo then great. If not, play Moorefield in a challenge. Everyone in attendance can make a donation to pay off whatever fine they impose on us. I've never seen the county as energised on an issue.
Dinny and Donnellys Hollow - do ye think it's likely Kildare will go down the legal route if the game is awarded to Mayo?
I saw somewhere online earlier on that if they go as far as the DRA - on purely legal terms - they would have a very good case.
Now this of course would impact on the super 8 as I assume it's unlikely any such action would be resolved this week?
Quote from: joemamas on June 26, 2018, 03:44:04 PM
Can anybody name the members that make up the CCCC committee.
All joking aside, this is snowballing into a complete shit-show.
Needs to be resolved one way or the other.
The H&C need to explain their rational, by dropping the attendance levels so low.
It is not like every person attending is 6.6 and 200 lbs.
John Prenty is one of them anyway
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:41:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfill the fixture.
Nuclear button pressed.
QuoteA press conference scheduled by Kildare GAA manager, Cian O'Neill, for this evening at the Manguard Centre of Excellence in Hawkfield, has been cancelled, with the manager citing 'work commitments.'
However the Leinster Leader understands that Kildare Co. Board has officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfil the Round 3 Qualifier in Croke Park against Mayo on Saturday.
According to GAA Rules a team not fulfilling a fixture must inform Croke Park 48 hours prior to the fixture and while the Co. Board has already informed the authorities they will not be travelling on Saturday, they must do so again 48 hours out from the time of the game.
Assuming that the Croke Park authorities then award the game to Mayo the appeal process will then kick in.
Kildare's next option will be to appeal to the Central Hearings Committee.
If that fails, the next step is to appeal to the Croke Park Appeals Committee.
If that committee rejects the appeal then it would no doubt head to the DRA (Disputes Resolution Authority). This is a committee made up of legal experts, independent of the GAA and is usually the final appeal process but going to the High Court can never be ruled out either.
We await developments, but one thing is for sure if Croke Park did not think Kildare were serious in this entire mess they are certainly fully aware at this stage they are.
Ball in Croke Park's court. They are getting slaughtered PR wise.
Best now for KCB, CO'N and the players to shut up shop and keep their counsel. Let Croke Park continue to bungle and lose credibility with each talking head they put in front of the media. Turn up in Newbridge on Saturday. If there is a match v Mayo then great. If not, play Moorefield in a challenge. Everyone in attendance can make a donation to pay off whatever fine they impose on us. I've never seen the county as energised on an issue.
Dinny and Donnellys Hollow - do ye think it's likely Kildare will go down the legal route if the game is awarded to Mayo?
I saw somewhere online earlier on that if they go as far as the DRA - on purely legal terms - they would have a very good case.
Now this of course would impact on the super 8 as I assume it's unlikely any such action would be resolved this week?
surely the furthest this goes is the DRA and those legal eagles will find on behalf of Kildare??
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfill the fixture.
Nuclear button pressed.
QuoteA press conference scheduled by Kildare GAA manager, Cian O’Neill, for this evening at the Manguard Centre of Excellence in Hawkfield, has been cancelled, with the manager citing ‘work commitments.’
However the Leinster Leader understands that Kildare Co. Board has officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfil the Round 3 Qualifier in Croke Park against Mayo on Saturday.
According to GAA Rules a team not fulfilling a fixture must inform Croke Park 48 hours prior to the fixture and while the Co. Board has already informed the authorities they will not be travelling on Saturday, they must do so again 48 hours out from the time of the game.
Assuming that the Croke Park authorities then award the game to Mayo the appeal process will then kick in.
Kildare’s next option will be to appeal to the Central Hearings Committee.
If that fails, the next step is to appeal to the Croke Park Appeals Committee.
If that committee rejects the appeal then it would no doubt head to the DRA (Disputes Resolution Authority). This is a committee made up of legal experts, independent of the GAA and is usually the final appeal process but going to the High Court can never be ruled out either.
We await developments, but one thing is for sure if Croke Park did not think Kildare were serious in this entire mess they are certainly fully aware at this stage they are.
Ball in Croke Park's court. They are getting slaughtered PR wise.
Croke Park have made an absolute hames of this situation which has become a lightening rod for other issues and complaints that people outside of Kildare have with the direction the association is taking, Kildare have put themselves into the firing line and held firm, I don't know anyone who is taking HQ's side on this issue.
The high handed approach which they assumed would result in the match going ahead as planned hasn't worked and they have only made the GAA look bad.
While it remains to all fully play out - and without jumping the gun - this is potentially a watershed moment outside of the immediate issue to hand.
Quote from: heffo on June 26, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
I don't see how you've drawn that conclusion - if anything I'd say they'll be far more together.
Kildare need to be very careful what they wish for. If the game were to be switched to Newbridge now the Kildare football team would face enormous pressure from their supporters to deliver on their perceived home advantage. I believe it would be far better for them to go to Croker with a sense of grievance and do their talking on the field of play. I honestly feel that the Kildare county board have done their team no favours.
I remember the Dublin v Cork semi-final of 1983 when Dublin scraped a draw with the last kick of the game and Cork were awarded the replay in Pairc Ui Chaoimh. There was jubilation in Cork because after their display in the drawn game they thought that home advantage was all they needed to clinch the replay. Of course we know what happened - they were hammered.
Quote from: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:41:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfill the fixture.
Nuclear button pressed.
QuoteA press conference scheduled by Kildare GAA manager, Cian O'Neill, for this evening at the Manguard Centre of Excellence in Hawkfield, has been cancelled, with the manager citing 'work commitments.'
However the Leinster Leader understands that Kildare Co. Board has officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfil the Round 3 Qualifier in Croke Park against Mayo on Saturday.
According to GAA Rules a team not fulfilling a fixture must inform Croke Park 48 hours prior to the fixture and while the Co. Board has already informed the authorities they will not be travelling on Saturday, they must do so again 48 hours out from the time of the game.
Assuming that the Croke Park authorities then award the game to Mayo the appeal process will then kick in.
Kildare's next option will be to appeal to the Central Hearings Committee.
If that fails, the next step is to appeal to the Croke Park Appeals Committee.
If that committee rejects the appeal then it would no doubt head to the DRA (Disputes Resolution Authority). This is a committee made up of legal experts, independent of the GAA and is usually the final appeal process but going to the High Court can never be ruled out either.
We await developments, but one thing is for sure if Croke Park did not think Kildare were serious in this entire mess they are certainly fully aware at this stage they are.
Ball in Croke Park's court. They are getting slaughtered PR wise.
Best now for KCB, CO'N and the players to shut up shop and keep their counsel. Let Croke Park continue to bungle and lose credibility with each talking head they put in front of the media. Turn up in Newbridge on Saturday. If there is a match v Mayo then great. If not, play Moorefield in a challenge. Everyone in attendance can make a donation to pay off whatever fine they impose on us. I've never seen the county as energised on an issue.
Dinny and Donnellys Hollow - do ye think it's likely Kildare will go down the legal route if the game is awarded to Mayo?
I saw somewhere online earlier on that if they go as far as the DRA - on purely legal terms - they would have a very good case.
Now this of course would impact on the super 8 as I assume it's unlikely any such action would be resolved this week?
Will come down to cost, Kildare wouldn't have the resources to go High Court, unless someone will do the work pro-Bono (feasible). As DH says the county is galvanised which us unusual for Kildare, our nature is quite passive, the last couple of days though we're more like our ignorant neighbours in 98, they will definitely bring it to the DRA, feel sorry for the players but they know their is a bigger issue here at play.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 26, 2018, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 03:24:35 PM
Ned Quinn is going to show up in a Mayo jersey looking for trouble.
#falseflag
Ned Quinn's legacy
Poor Ned should have stayed in KK and looked after the hurlers there.
There's no manners or law abiders in these footballing places, looking for loopholes every cut and turn.
;)
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 26, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
I don't see how you've drawn that conclusion - if anything I'd say they'll be far more together.
Kildare need to be very careful what they wish for. If the game were to be switched to Newbridge now the Kildare football team would face enormous pressure from their supporters to deliver on their perceived home advantage. I believe it would be far better for them to go to Croker with a sense of grievance and do their talking on the field of play. I honestly feel that the Kildare county board have done their team no favours.
I remember the Dublin v Cork semi-final of 1983 when Dublin scraped a draw with the last kick of the game and Cork were awarded the replay in Pairc Ui Chaoimh. There was jubilation in Cork because after their display in the drawn game they thought that home advantage was all they needed to clinch the replay. Of course we know what happened - they were hammered.
It will become precedent if they don't stand up to it now.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:57:20 PM
I honestly feel that the Kildare county board have done their team no favours.
It's the management and players who are taking this stance. That much is clear from Cian O'Neill's interview on KFM this morning.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:41:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Tommy Callaghan reporting that KCB have officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfill the fixture.
Nuclear button pressed.
QuoteA press conference scheduled by Kildare GAA manager, Cian O'Neill, for this evening at the Manguard Centre of Excellence in Hawkfield, has been cancelled, with the manager citing 'work commitments.'
However the Leinster Leader understands that Kildare Co. Board has officially informed Croke Park that they will not fulfil the Round 3 Qualifier in Croke Park against Mayo on Saturday.
According to GAA Rules a team not fulfilling a fixture must inform Croke Park 48 hours prior to the fixture and while the Co. Board has already informed the authorities they will not be travelling on Saturday, they must do so again 48 hours out from the time of the game.
Assuming that the Croke Park authorities then award the game to Mayo the appeal process will then kick in.
Kildare's next option will be to appeal to the Central Hearings Committee.
If that fails, the next step is to appeal to the Croke Park Appeals Committee.
If that committee rejects the appeal then it would no doubt head to the DRA (Disputes Resolution Authority). This is a committee made up of legal experts, independent of the GAA and is usually the final appeal process but going to the High Court can never be ruled out either.
We await developments, but one thing is for sure if Croke Park did not think Kildare were serious in this entire mess they are certainly fully aware at this stage they are.
Ball in Croke Park's court. They are getting slaughtered PR wise.
Best now for KCB, CO'N and the players to shut up shop and keep their counsel. Let Croke Park continue to bungle and lose credibility with each talking head they put in front of the media. Turn up in Newbridge on Saturday. If there is a match v Mayo then great. If not, play Moorefield in a challenge. Everyone in attendance can make a donation to pay off whatever fine they impose on us. I've never seen the county as energised on an issue.
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Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 26, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
I don't see how you've drawn that conclusion - if anything I'd say they'll be far more together.
Kildare need to be very careful what they wish for. If the game were to be switched to Newbridge now the Kildare football team would face enormous pressure from their supporters to deliver on their perceived home advantage. I believe it would be far better for them to go to Croker with a sense of grievance and do their talking on the field of play. I honestly feel that the Kildare county board have done their team no favours.
I remember the Dublin v Cork semi-final of 1983 when Dublin scraped a draw with the last kick of the game and Cork were awarded the replay in Pairc Ui Chaoimh. There was jubilation in Cork because after their display in the drawn game they thought that home advantage was all they needed to clinch the replay. Of course we know what happened - they were hammered.
We don't need the likes of you telling us we need to be careful.
Quote from: mup on June 26, 2018, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 26, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
I don't see how you've drawn that conclusion - if anything I'd say they'll be far more together.
Kildare need to be very careful what they wish for. If the game were to be switched to Newbridge now the Kildare football team would face enormous pressure from their supporters to deliver on their perceived home advantage. I believe it would be far better for them to go to Croker with a sense of grievance and do their talking on the field of play. I honestly feel that the Kildare county board have done their team no favours.
I remember the Dublin v Cork semi-final of 1983 when Dublin scraped a draw with the last kick of the game and Cork were awarded the replay in Pairc Ui Chaoimh. There was jubilation in Cork because after their display in the drawn game they thought that home advantage was all they needed to clinch the replay. Of course we know what happened - they were hammered.
We don't need the likes of you telling us we need to be careful.
Yes their idea of protest is to avoid Croke Park's bars & shops. Radical bastards.
This is Corporate GAA/SKY V genuine Gaels. For all our sakes I hope Kildare don't capitulate.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 04:09:04 PM
Quote from: mup on June 26, 2018, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 26, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
I don't see how you've drawn that conclusion - if anything I'd say they'll be far more together.
Kildare need to be very careful what they wish for. If the game were to be switched to Newbridge now the Kildare football team would face enormous pressure from their supporters to deliver on their perceived home advantage. I believe it would be far better for them to go to Croker with a sense of grievance and do their talking on the field of play. I honestly feel that the Kildare county board have done their team no favours.
I remember the Dublin v Cork semi-final of 1983 when Dublin scraped a draw with the last kick of the game and Cork were awarded the replay in Pairc Ui Chaoimh. There was jubilation in Cork because after their display in the drawn game they thought that home advantage was all they needed to clinch the replay. Of course we know what happened - they were hammered.
We don't need the likes of you telling us we need to be careful.
Yes their idea of protest is to avoid Croke Park's bars & shops. Radical b**tards.
:) :) :)
Anyway, enough of this sideshow and back to the game.
Who will Mayo play at midfield?
Tyrone need to show their support here to the CCCC, they've righted more than a few wrongs for us over the years. Teirnan McCann, Ricey...etc
This is the their hour of need so we should be organising buses trains to Croke Park and mobilising the support to get out. A statement from the county board would also help denouncing the actions of Kildare.
We cant let the CCCC be undermined and bullied in this way by an impulsive mob.
Why is everyone adding an extra 'C' to 'CCC'?
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 04:17:09 PM
Why is everyone adding an extra 'C' to 'CCC'?
Central Competitions Control Committee
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 04:17:09 PM
Why is everyone adding an extra 'C' to 'CCC'?
Why are you taking off a C?
Central
Competitions
Control
Committee
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 04:17:09 PM
Why is everyone adding an extra 'C' to 'CCC'?
C above.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 04:17:09 PM
Why is everyone adding an extra 'C' to 'CCC'?
Cian Controls Central Committee
That was a test and you all passed.
Good work, guys.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 26, 2018, 03:41:41 PM
Quote from: mup on June 26, 2018, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Kildare have really hoisted the white flag on this one. What a message to give your players - we know you have no chance of beating Mayo in Croke Park, your only hope would be to play them in Newbridge. With that sort of leadership this Kildare team will never win anything.
Missing person alert.
There is a village somewhere missing its' idiot.
In fairness, Kildare wouldn't be doing this if they had a winnable fixture and realistic ambitions of a prolonged championship campaign.
So they've not much to lose by pulling the tent down.
Weird take to say the least.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 03:57:20 PM
Kildare need to be very careful what they wish for. If the game were to be switched to Newbridge now the Kildare football team would face enormous pressure from their supporters to deliver on their perceived home advantage. I believe it would be far better for them to go to Croker with a sense of grievance and do their talking on the field of play. I honestly feel that the Kildare county board have done their team no favours.
The result is irrelevant now. A victory over HQ is more important than a victory over Mayo.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 26, 2018, 04:14:16 PM
Anyway, enough of this sideshow and back to the game.
Who will Mayo play at midfield?
They'll sign Scott Brady, and he'll hit a goal at the death.
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 26, 2018, 04:14:16 PM
Anyway, enough of this sideshow and back to the game.
Who will Mayo play at midfield?
A combination of Diarmuid , Aidan and Keegan or Coen with Barry Moran, Kirby and Vaughan to provide cover for them. I would personally like to see Diarmuid and Aidan there with Keegan in the half back line and Cillian on the forty.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 26, 2018, 04:14:16 PM
Anyway, enough of this sideshow and back to the game.
Who will Mayo play at midfield?
A combination of Diarmuid , Aidan and Keegan or Coen with Barry Moran, Kirby and Vaughan to provide cover for them. I would personally like to see Diarmuid and Aidan there with Keegan in the half back line and Cillian on the forty.
Coen is very pedestrian. I think asking AOS to have the work-rate the roles his brother and Parsons had is asking for trouble too.
Quote from: the_daddy on June 26, 2018, 04:36:46 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Really? He was a goner after the Carlow result but now O'Neill can't get the road if he goes down in a blaze of glory or fighting the good fight.
In that case it's just a benefit to himself and not his team but I suppose most manager's are like that
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 26, 2018, 04:14:16 PM
Anyway, enough of this sideshow and back to the game.
Who will Mayo play at midfield?
A combination of Diarmuid , Aidan and Keegan or Coen with Barry Moran, Kirby and Vaughan to provide cover for them. I would personally like to see Diarmuid and Aidan there with Keegan in the half back line and Cillian on the forty.
Coen is very pedestrian. I think asking AOS to have the work-rate the roles his brother and Parsons had is asking for trouble too.
Coen is best a center back if he is to start at all, I think Rochford will have D. O'Connor plus one of Keegan or Vaughan to try and cover the work of Parsons and Seami along with Aidan in there.
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Conversely you could argue that 90% of Mayo's good performances over the past 5 years have come at Croke Park. It's everywhere else where they have looked vulnerable. Even at home in Castlebar.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 04:45:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 26, 2018, 04:14:16 PM
Anyway, enough of this sideshow and back to the game.
Who will Mayo play at midfield?
A combination of Diarmuid , Aidan and Keegan or Coen with Barry Moran, Kirby and Vaughan to provide cover for them. I would personally like to see Diarmuid and Aidan there with Keegan in the half back line and Cillian on the forty.
Coen is very pedestrian. I think asking AOS to have the work-rate the roles his brother and Parsons had is asking for trouble too.
Coen is best a center back if he is to start at all, I think Rochford will have D. O'Connor plus one of Keegan or Vaughan to try and cover the work of Parsons and Seami along with Aidan in there.
It's just my opinion, but I just don't think Coen is good enough at this level. I think that solution could actually work very well if it comes off.
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Sometimes a thing like this can change the direction of a team.
It happened with Offaly hurlers in 1998. Mr B Keating told them they were useless. They won the all Ireland
And in 2010 Mr B Keating launched an attack on the Tipp hurlers
"Former manager Michael 'Babs' Keating has written off Tipperary's All-Ireland prospects° for this season and launched another blistering attack on the current players, many of whom he managed prior to Liam Sheedy's appointment.
"If Tipp are to come through, they could have to meet Waterford, Galway and Kilkenny along the way," said Keating yesterday. "I don't think the players that have failed Tipperary over the last number of years will relish meeting them all and beating them all. Having to face a couple of them will make life very tough for Tipperary. "Denis Walsh has a history of winning All-Irelands – he has that advantage over Liam Sheedy."
Tipp won the All Ireland
Kildare probably don't have that quality and Mr B Keating is not involved but "f**k You" can be worth 5 or 6 points
Quote from: the_daddy on June 26, 2018, 04:41:21 PM
Quote from: longballin on June 26, 2018, 04:10:13 PM
This is Corporate GAA/SKY V genuine Gaels. For all our sakes I hope Kildare don't capitulate.
Wow, disciples of Brolly throwing around terms like "genuine gaels" like they have a monopoly on it. What's the criteria for it?
Be prepared to question the 'group think' that is growing among the decision makers in the association
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Conversely you could argue that 90% of Mayo's good performances over the past 5 years have come at Croke Park. It's everywhere else where they have looked vulnerable. Even at home in Castlebar.
Especially at home, terrible record there. I'd genuinely have our home game played in croker
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Sometimes a thing like this can change the direction of a team.
It happened with Offaly hurlers in 1998. Mr B Keating told them they were useless. They won the all Ireland
And in 2010 Mr B Keating launched an attack on the Tipp hurlers
"Former manager Michael 'Babs' Keating has written off Tipperary's All-Ireland prospects° for this season and launched another blistering attack on the current players, many of whom he managed prior to Liam Sheedy's appointment.
"If Tipp are to come through, they could have to meet Waterford, Galway and Kilkenny along the way," said Keating yesterday. "I don't think the players that have failed Tipperary over the last number of years will relish meeting them all and beating them all. Having to face a couple of them will make life very tough for Tipperary. "Denis Walsh has a history of winning All-Irelands – he has that advantage over Liam Sheedy."
Tipp won the All Ireland
Kildare probably don't have that quality and Mr B Keating is not involved but "f**k You" can be worth 5 or 6 points
i dont think anyone in the country pays any attention to the ramblings of babs
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Conversely you could argue that 90% of Mayo's good performances over the past 5 years have come at Croke Park. It's everywhere else where they have looked vulnerable. Even at home in Castlebar.
Maybe they only play well in Leinster. I saw them in Newbridge this year and they played well but then i was in Castlebar against Tyrone and they were abysmal.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Conversely you could argue that 90% of Mayo's good performances over the past 5 years have come at Croke Park. It's everywhere else where they have looked vulnerable. Even at home in Castlebar.
Bingo
They are very comfortable in croker
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Sometimes a thing like this can change the direction of a team.
It happened with Offaly hurlers in 1998. Mr B Keating told them they were useless. They won the all Ireland
And in 2010 Mr B Keating launched an attack on the Tipp hurlers
"Former manager Michael 'Babs' Keating has written off Tipperary's All-Ireland prospects° for this season and launched another blistering attack on the current players, many of whom he managed prior to Liam Sheedy's appointment.
"If Tipp are to come through, they could have to meet Waterford, Galway and Kilkenny along the way," said Keating yesterday. "I don't think the players that have failed Tipperary over the last number of years will relish meeting them all and beating them all. Having to face a couple of them will make life very tough for Tipperary. "Denis Walsh has a history of winning All-Irelands – he has that advantage over Liam Sheedy."
Tipp won the All Ireland
Kildare probably don't have that quality and Mr B Keating is not involved but "f**k You" can be worth 5 or 6 points
Babs was and still is a complete bollox, isn't he?
Who are the "genuine gaels"?
Are they people who don't subscribe to Sky sports?
Or do you have to have a surname descended from the Gael?
If this goes to appeals etc etc it will fck up Round 4 for 2 teams and also the last 8 fixtures.
It's like a throwback to the 1920s or was it 1910 Kerry lost an AI because they refused to travel as the Railway Co. put up prices.
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
In fairness this is a very good point. Mayo have a superb travelling support. If capacity is 8k I would expect contractually the GAA will have to honour around 3.5k of seats for Mayo. 5k Tickets now left. I am sure Kildare probably have 2-3k season tickets too.
So on general release you are down to only 2-3k available. After all this messing demand will probably be around 15k. Is your average Kildare fan going to be happy they dont have a chance to even see the game? Is it even possible at this stage to arrange an all ticket match?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 04:49:16 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Conversely you could argue that 90% of Mayo's good performances over the past 5 years have come at Croke Park. It's everywhere else where they have looked vulnerable. Even at home in Castlebar.
Especially at home, terrible record there. I'd genuinely have our home game played in croker
I wonder if any team would take the Croke Park option if GAA formally announced that Super 8 teams can move their home games to Croke Park if they wish. When Meath were in the Top2/3 in the country they may well have if Super 8 existed back then. Probably Mayo the only ones outside Dublin who'd even consider it at the moment, but probably wouldnt on account of extra travel and expense for fans.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 04:56:57 PM
Who are the "genuine gaels"?
Are they people who don't subscribe to Sky sports?
Or do you have to have a surname descended from the Gael?
If this goes to appeals etc etc it will fck up Round 4 for 2 teams and also the last 8 fixtures.
It's like a throwback to the 1920s or was it 1910 Kerry lost an AI because they refused to travel as the Railway Co. put up prices.
People like Michael Duignans 170year old great great grandfather who missed out on a backdoor game even though it wouldn't have been televised anyway unless sky picked it up.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 04:56:57 PM
Who are the "genuine gaels"?
Are they people who don't subscribe to Sky sports?
Or do you have to have a surname descended from the Gael?
If this goes to appeals etc etc it will fck up Round 4 for 2 teams and also the last 8 fixtures.
It's like a throwback to the 1920s or was it 1910 Kerry lost an AI because they refused to travel as the Railway Co. put up prices.
Good. I hope it does.
Reports are Croke Park have stirred and are requesting a meeting with KCB.
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2018, 05:01:49 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
In fairness this is a very good point. Mayo have a superb travelling support. If capacity is 5k I would expect contractually the GAA will have to honour around 3.5k of seats for Mayo. 5k Tickets now left. I am sure Kildare probably have 2-3k season tickets too.
So on general release you are down to only 2-3k available. After all this messing demand will probably be around 15k. Is your average Kildare fan going to be happy they dont have a chance to even see the game? Is it even possible at this stage to arrange an all ticket match?
I've already booked tickets at Croke for my 3 sons and 2 nephews - no point even looking for 6 tickets if the game is in Newbridge. My nephews are not brought to games by their parents so this was a good opportunity for them to get to a big match with their county involved. You have no hope in getting them interested if you can't get kids in to watch their county.
Quote from: LooseCannon on June 26, 2018, 04:56:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Sometimes a thing like this can change the direction of a team.
It happened with Offaly hurlers in 1998. Mr B Keating told them they were useless. They won the all Ireland
And in 2010 Mr B Keating launched an attack on the Tipp hurlers
"Former manager Michael 'Babs' Keating has written off Tipperary's All-Ireland prospects° for this season and launched another blistering attack on the current players, many of whom he managed prior to Liam Sheedy's appointment.
"If Tipp are to come through, they could have to meet Waterford, Galway and Kilkenny along the way," said Keating yesterday. "I don't think the players that have failed Tipperary over the last number of years will relish meeting them all and beating them all. Having to face a couple of them will make life very tough for Tipperary. "Denis Walsh has a history of winning All-Irelands – he has that advantage over Liam Sheedy."
Tipp won the All Ireland
Kildare probably don't have that quality and Mr B Keating is not involved but "f**k You" can be worth 5 or 6 points
Babs was and still is a complete bollox, isn't he?
The purest.
Very complex character
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 04:49:16 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 26, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
Conversely you could argue that 90% of Mayo's good performances over the past 5 years have come at Croke Park. It's everywhere else where they have looked vulnerable. Even at home in Castlebar.
Especially at home, terrible record there. I'd genuinely have our home game played in croker
Beat Kildare by 9 points in Machale park two years ago don't forget.
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 26, 2018, 05:02:42 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 04:56:57 PM
Who are the "genuine gaels"?
Are they people who don't subscribe to Sky sports?
Or do you have to have a surname descended from the Gael?
If this goes to appeals etc etc it will fck up Round 4 for 2 teams and also the last 8 fixtures.
It's like a throwback to the 1920s or was it 1910 Kerry lost an AI because they refused to travel as the Railway Co. put up prices.
People like Michael Duignans 170year old great great grandfather who missed out on a backdoor game even though it wouldn't have been televised anyway unless sky picked it up.
His elderly father actually. Lives on Cuba Avenue, Banagher.
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 05:11:04 PM
I've already booked tickets at Croke for my 3 sons and 2 nephews - no point even looking for 6 tickets if the game is in Newbridge. My nephews are not brought to games by their parents so this was a good opportunity for them to get to a big match with their county involved. You have no hope in getting them interested if you can't get kids in to watch their county.
Even die hard Kildare fans won't get tickets if the game is in Newbridge. Nobody seems to care about this. The value of a home game is more important than satisfying ticket demand.
If the game had been fixed for Newbridge, there would absolutely have been a social media outcry about the 5,000 or 10,000 extra Mayo fans who would have wanted to attend the game!
Especially with the Super 8, the GAA as a whole are going to have to decide what's more important, letting as many people attend as possible, or honouring home advantage even if there is small capacity. And should ticket allocation be the fair 50/50 as in prior years, or should home teams get a bigger slice?
It seems there's a large contingent in favour of home advantage being more important than extra spectators attending. If Kildare were contenders and had tens of thousands of fans attending games like in the O'Dwyer and even McGeeney years, would they them be demanding Newbridge this weekend? A very difficult question to answer.
The Wizard of Ballygawley has spoken
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0626/973305-pr-disaster-may-force-gaa-climbdown-on-newbridge/
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 05:11:04 PM
I've already booked tickets at Croke for my 3 sons and 2 nephews - no point even looking for 6 tickets if the game is in Newbridge. My nephews are not brought to games by their parents so this was a good opportunity for them to get to a big match with their county involved. You have no hope in getting them interested if you can't get kids in to watch their county.
Even die hard Kildare fans won't get tickets if the game is in Newbridge. Nobody seems to care about this. The value of a home game is more important than satisfying ticket demand.
If the game had been fixed for Newbridge, there would absolutely have been a social media outcry about the 5,000 or 10,000 extra Mayo fans who would have wanted to attend the game!
Especially with the Super 8, the GAA as a whole are going to have to decide what's more important, letting as many people attend as possible, or honouring home advantage even if there is small capacity. And should ticket allocation be the fair 50/50 as in prior years, or should home teams get a bigger slice?
It seems there's a large contingent in favour of home advantage being more important than extra spectators attending. If Kildare were contenders and had tens of thousands of fans attending games like in the O'Dwyer and even McGeeney years, would they them be demanding Newbridge this weekend? A very difficult question to answer.
Ah the Dub has spoken! Lets think about the Children!
Quote from: LooseCannon on June 26, 2018, 05:19:57 PM
His elderly father actually. Lives on Cuba Avenue, Banagher.
A sound man too by all accounts - the mate and his wife wanted to visit Cuba a few years ago before Castro would die and it "all would change." Anyway, there was a bit of a mix up and they ended up n a Bed and Breakfast a couple of doors away from him. One of the best holidays ever, they still say.
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 05:31:08 PM
It seems there's a large contingent in favour of home advantage being more important than extra spectators attending. If Kildare were contenders and had tens of thousands of fans attending games like in the O'Dwyer and even McGeeney years, would they them be demanding Newbridge this weekend? A very difficult question to answer.
Probably not, what has that got to do with the current situation though? It's Kildare's home advantage to decide what they want to do, if they get home advantage in a qualifier draw or the Super 8s and they decide to play it in Croke Park then fine, they don't want to do that right now.
All season ticket holders can be accommodated, there are no H&S issues and it has Garda approval, I don't see the relevance of supporters who can't get in, that's Kildare GAA's call, they have no obligation to accommodate Mayo supporters who don't have a season ticket.
Please Kildare don't back down or be bought off. Is time $KY/GAA was stood up to.
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 05:11:04 PM
I've already booked tickets at Croke for my 3 sons and 2 nephews - no point even looking for 6 tickets if the game is in Newbridge. My nephews are not brought to games by their parents so this was a good opportunity for them to get to a big match with their county involved. You have no hope in getting them interested if you can't get kids in to watch their county.
Even die hard Kildare fans won't get tickets if the game is in Newbridge. Nobody seems to care about this. The value of a home game is more important than satisfying ticket demand.
If the game had been fixed for Newbridge, there would absolutely have been a social media outcry about the 5,000 or 10,000 extra Mayo fans who would have wanted to attend the game!
Especially with the Super 8, the GAA as a whole are going to have to decide what's more important, letting as many people attend as possible, or honouring home advantage even if there is small capacity. And should ticket allocation be the fair 50/50 as in prior years, or should home teams get a bigger slice?
It seems there's a large contingent in favour of home advantage being more important than extra spectators attending. If Kildare were contenders and had tens of thousands of fans attending games like in the O'Dwyer and even McGeeney years, would they them be demanding Newbridge this weekend? A very difficult question to answer.
It's actually not.
They'd play it in Croke Park.
However, it's the year 2018 not 1998 and they're not contenders, and they don't have tens of thousands of fans attending games, so Newbridge makes perfect sense.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 26, 2018, 05:41:23 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 05:31:08 PM
It seems there's a large contingent in favour of home advantage being more important than extra spectators attending. If Kildare were contenders and had tens of thousands of fans attending games like in the O'Dwyer and even McGeeney years, would they them be demanding Newbridge this weekend? A very difficult question to answer.
Probably not, what has that got to do with the current situation though? It's Kildare's home advantage to decide what they want to do, if they get home advantage in a qualifier draw or the Super 8s and they decide to play it in Croke Park then fine, they don't want to do that right now.
All season ticket holders can be accommodated, there are no H&S issues and it has Garda approval, I don't see the relevance of supporters who can't get in, that's Kildare GAA's call, they have no obligation to accommodate Mayo supporters who don't have a season ticket.
Under the current rules I 100% agree it should be Kildare GAA's call. I've said that a number of times already
I think its an absolute disgrace the way the Ivory Towers in Croke are acting.
1. All super 8 teams will get a home fixture. Honest.
2. Teams drawn first in 3rd round of qualifiers will get a home fixture (seeding allowing).
3. Oh wait, we could make a good few €€€ here. Health and Safety means we have to move the game.
4. No? But, if we don't move the game there will be crowd trouble (thats the latest from Ned Kelly).
Just a constant stream of lies. All they care about now is the €uro. If they gave more than 2 f**ks about the average club member, they'd be reducing the number of county games to stabilise the club fixture schedule. Instead they are wanting to inc£eas€ them to ca$h in.
Yes, it means that there will be a reduced crowd at it compared to Croke*. But it'll be a white hot atmosphere and Kildare can feed off it. Absolutely right to stand their ground and insist on playing it in Newbridge.
People miss out on games due to limited capacity all the time. Its a part of sport.
You have to realise that it is hard for Dublin supporters to understand Kildares situation. To be fair it's hard for Dublin to understand any situation! They never have any situation outside their norm. There have been a few token gesture games outside of Croke Park in the Leinster Championship. And in nearly all these cases the venue has been neutral. They are in their comfort zone Croke Park Bubble from one year to the next, picking off teams that come to visit over the summer.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 05:11:04 PM
I've already booked tickets at Croke for my 3 sons and 2 nephews - no point even looking for 6 tickets if the game is in Newbridge. My nephews are not brought to games by their parents so this was a good opportunity for them to get to a big match with their county involved. You have no hope in getting them interested if you can't get kids in to watch their county.
Even die hard Kildare fans won't get tickets if the game is in Newbridge. Nobody seems to care about this. The value of a home game is more important than satisfying ticket demand.
If the game had been fixed for Newbridge, there would absolutely have been a social media outcry about the 5,000 or 10,000 extra Mayo fans who would have wanted to attend the game!
Especially with the Super 8, the GAA as a whole are going to have to decide what's more important, letting as many people attend as possible, or honouring home advantage even if there is small capacity. And should ticket allocation be the fair 50/50 as in prior years, or should home teams get a bigger slice?
It seems there's a large contingent in favour of home advantage being more important than extra spectators attending. If Kildare were contenders and had tens of thousands of fans attending games like in the O'Dwyer and even McGeeney years, would they them be demanding Newbridge this weekend? A very difficult question to answer.
Ah the Dub has spoken! Lets think about the Children!
That's unfair. It was a Mayo man (presumably tc manchester is Mayo?) who brought in the fact that children will be among the ones to lose out.
I've said from the start I support Kildare's position.
But there are (unintended, perhaps) consequences as outlined by tc.
I think the Mayo v Dublin Super 8 hypothetical one is a good one. Under current rules, the ticket allocation split will be 50/50, therefore, 15,000 tickets to each side.
Demand in Mayo would way outstrip that. Do they move to Limerick to get an extra 10,000 Mayo tickets (approx 50k capacity I think).
That's not an easy question to answer. Would the Mayo team really be better off playing in Castlebar with 15,000 Dubs there too?
I think they'd clearly stick with Castlebar and suffer the fact that lots of Mayo supporters will lose out (a lot of children I'd guess!! ;) ) but home advantage is much much less pronounced when support is 50/50
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 05:57:51 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 05:11:04 PM
I've already booked tickets at Croke for my 3 sons and 2 nephews - no point even looking for 6 tickets if the game is in Newbridge. My nephews are not brought to games by their parents so this was a good opportunity for them to get to a big match with their county involved. You have no hope in getting them interested if you can't get kids in to watch their county.
Even die hard Kildare fans won't get tickets if the game is in Newbridge. Nobody seems to care about this. The value of a home game is more important than satisfying ticket demand.
If the game had been fixed for Newbridge, there would absolutely have been a social media outcry about the 5,000 or 10,000 extra Mayo fans who would have wanted to attend the game!
Especially with the Super 8, the GAA as a whole are going to have to decide what's more important, letting as many people attend as possible, or honouring home advantage even if there is small capacity. And should ticket allocation be the fair 50/50 as in prior years, or should home teams get a bigger slice?
It seems there's a large contingent in favour of home advantage being more important than extra spectators attending. If Kildare were contenders and had tens of thousands of fans attending games like in the O'Dwyer and even McGeeney years, would they them be demanding Newbridge this weekend? A very difficult question to answer.
Ah the Dub has spoken! Lets think about the Children!
That's unfair. It was a Mayo man (presumably tc manchester is Mayo?) who brought in the fact that children will be among the ones to lose out.
I've said from the start I support Kildare's position.
But there are (unintended, perhaps) consequences as outlined by tc.
I think the Mayo v Dublin Super 8 hypothetical one is a good one. Under current rules, the ticket allocation split will be 50/50, therefore, 15,000 tickets to each side.
Demand in Mayo would way outstrip that. Do they move to Limerick to get an extra 10,000 Mayo tickets (approx 50k capacity I think).
That's not an easy question to answer. Would the Mayo team really be better off playing in Castlebar with 15,000 Dubs there too?
I think they'd clearly stick with Castlebar and suffer the fact that lots of Mayo supporters will lose out (a lot of children I'd guess!! ;) ) but home advantage is much much less pronounced when support is 50/50
Especially when your home record is pretty bad as ours is
The only time Dublin have been disgruntled by a fixture was in 2001 when Maurice floated that free over the bar in Thurles and a lot Dubs got lost on the way down and home
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 26, 2018, 06:03:23 PM
The only time Dublin have been disgruntled by a fixture was in 2001 when Maurice floated that free over the bar in Thurles and a lot Dubs got lost on the way down and home
Ros 2016.
Has anyone asked the Kildare team what they think?
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 05:11:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2018, 05:01:49 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I just don't understand why the management team want to play the game in Newbridge
1. They haven't won there for a year
2. I was at the Kildare Mayo league match and it was pretty full. If Mayo use their full complement of season tickets then there is no point even looking for a ticket because they'll be like Hen's teeth
3. Kildare's only chance of winning this game is by running the legs off an ageing Mayo team but instead they want to play it in a smaller pitch than Croke. I would have said Yes to croke park but we want to play the game at 3 in the heat of the day. An evening match will suit Mayo even more.
In fairness this is a very good point. Mayo have a superb travelling support. If capacity is 5k I would expect contractually the GAA will have to honour around 3.5k of seats for Mayo. 5k Tickets now left. I am sure Kildare probably have 2-3k season tickets too.
So on general release you are down to only 2-3k available. After all this messing demand will probably be around 15k. Is your average Kildare fan going to be happy they dont have a chance to even see the game? Is it even possible at this stage to arrange an all ticket match?
I've already booked tickets at Croke for my 3 sons and 2 nephews - no point even looking for 6 tickets if the game is in Newbridge. My nephews are not brought to games by their parents so this was a good opportunity for them to get to a big match with their county involved. You have no hope in getting them interested if you can't get kids in to watch their county.
Should we move the AI final to the Rungrado First of May Stadium in Pyongyang? A lot of years you could probably sell more tickets than the capacity of Croker and sure you wouldn't want anyone to miss out.
Quote from: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 06:09:18 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 26, 2018, 06:03:23 PM
The only time Dublin have been disgruntled by a fixture was in 2001 when Maurice floated that free over the bar in Thurles and a lot Dubs got lost on the way down and home
Ros 2016.
Roscommon played that nicely.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 05:10:11 PM
Reports are Croke Park have stirred and are requesting a meeting with KCB.
KCB better be careful.
Last time rebellious leaders from Kildare went to Dublin they met some grisly end. ;D
How many tickets are Kildare obliged to make available to Mayo season ticket holders?
Is there a rule that can be quoted?
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Has anyone asked the Kildare team what they think?
O'Neill did via the captain.
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Has anyone asked the Kildare team what they think?
O'Neill did via the captain.
Do we know what their response was?
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
You have to realise that it is hard for Dublin supporters to understand Kildares situation. To be fair it's hard for Dublin to understand any situation! They never have any situation outside their norm. There have been a few token gesture games outside of Croke Park in the Leinster Championship. And in nearly all these cases the venue has been neutral. They are in their comfort zone Croke Park Bubble from one year to the next, picking off teams that come to visit over the summer.
The vast majority of Dublin GAA fans are backing Kildare over this. It seems that besides the big wigs at HQ that the only ones who want Kildare to step into line on this matter are a lot of Mayo fans who are acting like every Mayo man who wants to attend has a divine right to a match ticket.
Best value odds?
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Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 06:39:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Has anyone asked the Kildare team what they think?
O'Neill did via the captain.
Do we know what their response was?
QuoteCian O'Neill:
"I could not make a decision on behalf of the players unless I knew that the players had full buy-in."
"To a man, every single player agreed that this is not right, this is not on. We are in Newbridge or nowhere."
"We would not have proceeded either with the county board statement or my own statement last night unless we had the backing of the players."
http://kfmradio.com/news/26062018-1259/lunch-update-listen-kildare-manager-tells-kfm-newbridgeornowhere (http://kfmradio.com/news/26062018-1259/lunch-update-listen-kildare-manager-tells-kfm-newbridgeornowhere)
KFM have been very supportive as well. It is a full county effort.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 26, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
You have to realise that it is hard for Dublin supporters to understand Kildares situation. To be fair it's hard for Dublin to understand any situation! They never have any situation outside their norm. There have been a few token gesture games outside of Croke Park in the Leinster Championship. And in nearly all these cases the venue has been neutral. They are in their comfort zone Croke Park Bubble from one year to the next, picking off teams that come to visit over the summer.
The vast majority of Dublin GAA fans are backing Kildare over this. It seems that besides the big wigs at HQ that the only ones who want Kildare to step into line on this matter are a lot of Mayo fans who are acting like every Mayo man who wants to attend has a divine right to a match ticket.
Crock of sh*t.
Most Mayo people feel Kildare should have their home advantage, however, at the same time, the Kildare county board must bear some of the responsibility for not developing their primary ground for the past decade or more, and having a totally inadequate attendance of 8-10k.
You mean that the Thousands of Mayo supporters(not fans)that attend every national league game and the 8k that drove to Limerick or the 10k+
that travelled to Thurles.
Last Q, what do you think will happen if Kildare are drawn with home advantage V Dublin in super 8?
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 26, 2018, 06:54:46 PM
Best value odds?
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GAA to award walkover to Mayo
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Auguste_Ledru-Rollin
The following well-known quote, or some variation of it, is often attributed to Ledru-Rollin: "There go the people. I must follow them, for I am their leader."
Cropark have to listen now
Jesus, Nicky Brennan is like a boulder rolling down a hill on Off the Ball.
They can't stop him talking.
Cian O'Neill went from being the most hated man in Kildare a few weeks ago when they lost to Carlow to a national treasure who will appear on an episode of Reeling In the Years in years to come
Courtesy of Paul Cashin on Twitter.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 07:27:25 PM
Jesus, Nicky Brennan is like a boulder rolling down a hill on Off the Ball.
They can't stop him talking.
The hurling lads like Nicky and Ned must be laughing. You need to.master 170 skills to be a hurler. Fuball is a lot less and doesn't include crisis management
Quote from: joemamas on June 26, 2018, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 26, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
You have to realise that it is hard for Dublin supporters to understand Kildares situation. To be fair it's hard for Dublin to understand any situation! They never have any situation outside their norm. There have been a few token gesture games outside of Croke Park in the Leinster Championship. And in nearly all these cases the venue has been neutral. They are in their comfort zone Croke Park Bubble from one year to the next, picking off teams that come to visit over the summer.
The vast majority of Dublin GAA fans are backing Kildare over this. It seems that besides the big wigs at HQ that the only ones who want Kildare to step into line on this matter are a lot of Mayo fans who are acting like every Mayo man who wants to attend has a divine right to a match ticket.
Crock of sh*t.
Most Mayo people feel Kildare should have their home advantage, however, at the same time, the Kildare county board must bear some of the responsibility for not developing their primary ground for the past decade or more, and having a totally inadequate attendance of 8-10k.
You mean that the Thousands of Mayo supporters(not fans)that attend every national league game and the 8k that drove to Limerick or the 10k+
that travelled to Thurles.
Last Q, what do you think will happen if Kildare are drawn with home advantage V Dublin in super 8?
At the same time nothing. Kildare were drew out first and therefore have home advantage as the rules state. If the GAA had an issue with the Kildare county ground regarding holding matches they should have made it known long prior to now.
According to GAA Rules a team not fulfilling a fixture must inform Croke Park 48 hours prior to the fixture and while the Co. Board has already informed the authorities they will not be travelling on Saturday, they must do so again 48 hours out from the time of the game.
Assuming that the Croke Park authorities then award the game to Mayo the appeal process will then kick in.
Kildare's next option will be to appeal to the Central Hearings Committee.
If that fails, the next step is to appeal to the Croke Park Appeals Committee.i
If that committee rejects the appeal then it would no doubt head to the DRA (Disputes Resolution Authority). This is a committee made up of legal experts, independent of the GAA and is usually the final appeal process but going to the High Court can never be ruled out either.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 26, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 06:39:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on June 26, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Has anyone asked the Kildare team what they think?
O'Neill did via the captain.
Do we know what their response was?
QuoteCian O'Neill:
"I could not make a decision on behalf of the players unless I knew that the players had full buy-in."
"To a man, every single player agreed that this is not right, this is not on. We are in Newbridge or nowhere."
"We would not have proceeded either with the county board statement or my own statement last night unless we had the backing of the players."
http://kfmradio.com/news/26062018-1259/lunch-update-listen-kildare-manager-tells-kfm-newbridgeornowhere (http://kfmradio.com/news/26062018-1259/lunch-update-listen-kildare-manager-tells-kfm-newbridgeornowhere)
Go raibh míle maith agat ;)
If the CCCC give Mayo the walkover then Kildare should burn the whole championship to the ground.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 26, 2018, 06:03:23 PM
The only time Dublin have been disgruntled by a fixture was in 2001 when Maurice floated that free over the bar in Thurles and a lot Dubs got lost on the way down and home
That was for a draw. Replay was played in Thurles also. Kerry were raging hot favourites and a much better team, big surprise Dubs got a draw first day out.
Dubs weren't provincial champions, Kerry were, no complaints at all from Dublin re the venue.
Dubs hurlers got done last year, drawn at home for a qualifier game, but it was moved to Thurles as part of double bill on basis Parnell couldn't hold anticipated crowd.
Quote from: thebar on June 26, 2018, 07:37:15 PM
At the same time nothing. Kildare were drew out first and therefore have home advantage as the rules state. If the GAA had an issue with the Kildare county ground regarding holding matches they should have made it known long prior to now.
Yep, if it was Kildare v Leitrim, the game would be on in Newbridge, no questions asked. The GAA were giving Mayo an advantage because they are so well supported. Similar to the Wicklow v any other Leinster team bar the Dubs would have gone ahead in Aughrim.
This should all be set out by the GAA prior to the draw, instead of hoping for the best. Likewise the super 8 should be set in stone.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
If the CCCC give Mayo the walkover then Kildare should burn the whole championship to the ground.
With petrol.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
If the CCCC give Mayo the walkover then Kildare should burn the whole championship to the ground.
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Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: thebar on June 26, 2018, 07:37:15 PM
At the same time nothing. Kildare were drew out first and therefore have home advantage as the rules state. If the GAA had an issue with the Kildare county ground regarding holding matches they should have made it known long prior to now.
Yep, if it was Kildare v Leitrim, the game would be on in Newbridge, no questions asked. The GAA were giving Mayo an advantage because they are so well supported. Similar to the Wicklow v any other Leinster team bar the Dubs would have gone ahead in Aughrim.
This should all be set out by the GAA prior to the draw, instead of hoping for the best. Likewise the super 8 should be set in stone.
''Hoping for the best'' done the trick up to now! But counties are getting fed up of being second class citizens to the Chosen Dubs. Super 8 has been put in place to accommodate bored Dublin supporters and their media.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
If the CCCC give Mayo the walkover then Kildare should burn the whole championship to the ground.
Surely more a case of
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Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: thebar on June 26, 2018, 07:37:15 PM
At the same time nothing. Kildare were drew out first and therefore have home advantage as the rules state. If the GAA had an issue with the Kildare county ground regarding holding matches they should have made it known long prior to now.
Yep, if it was Kildare v Leitrim, the game would be on in Newbridge, no questions asked. The GAA were giving Mayo an advantage because they are so well supported. Similar to the Wicklow v any other Leinster team bar the Dubs would have gone ahead in Aughrim.
This should all be set out by the GAA prior to the draw, instead of hoping for the best. Likewise the super 8 should be set in stone.
''Hoping for the best'' done the trick up to now! But counties are getting fed up of being second class citizens to the Chosen Dubs. Super 8 has been put in place to accommodate bored Dublin supporters and their media.
The word obsession comes to mind
Mayo should be delighted to play in Newbridge, its the nearest they will get to silverware this year.
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 07:52:08 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 26, 2018, 06:03:23 PM
The only time Dublin have been disgruntled by a fixture was in 2001 when Maurice floated that free over the bar in Thurles and a lot Dubs got lost on the way down and home
That was for a draw. Replay was played in Thurles also. Kerry were raging hot favourites and a much better team, big surprise Dubs got a draw first day out.
Dubs weren't provincial champions, Kerry were, no complaints at all from Dublin re the venue.
Dubs hurlers got done last year, drawn at home for a qualifier game, but it was moved to Thurles as part of double bill on basis Parnell couldn't hold anticipated crowd.
Parnell isn't really yer home ground anymore
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 08:47:44 PM
Mayo should be delighted to play in Newbridge, its the nearest they will get to silverware this year.
Very good, too obscure for most of them but very good all the same.
https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2018/0626/973315-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-to-visit-croke-park/
But they will.not be going to Newbridge
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 08:47:44 PM
Mayo should be delighted to play in Newbridge, its the nearest they will get to silverware this year.
Good one
Quote from: inthrough on June 26, 2018, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 08:47:44 PM
Mayo should be delighted to play in Newbridge, its the nearest they will get to silverware this year.
Very good, too obscure for most of them but very good all the same.
I've read the same thing in Twitter about a dozen times today. Was funny the first time.
I saw the great Willie McCreery being interviewed in his yard earlier.
Himself and the horses were fully behind Kildare.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/sooner-or-later-gaa-people-are-going-to-say-f-this-joe-brolly-gives-his-verdict-on-kildare-controversy-37053267.html
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 08:47:44 PM
Mayo should be delighted to play in Newbridge, its the nearest they will get to silverware this year.
Funny but not as funny as your username or the fact you don't realise how funny your username is! ;)
Im delighted Im keeping you entertained crete boom, or is it annoyed.Its good to have a laugh. ;D 8)
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 09:34:56 PM
Im delighted Im keeping you entertained crete boom, or is it annoyed.Its good to have a laugh. ;D 8)
Entertained definitely GBB, there is enough lads on here that are annoyed at the drop of a hat!! ;D
If there's no agreement by tonight, you'd have to imagine we've gone beyond the point of no return and this is heading to the DRA once Kildare get thrown out.
Complete balls up by the GAA, well done kildare for standing up to them
I have sympathy with Mayo and completely understand why they are keeping quiet. But seriously the other counties should be more vocal and represent the thoughts of gaels in their county.
If you don't mind what's happening to Kildare and would happily see it done to your own county then fair enough. But if you wouldn't want it done to you County then act like it is your own county. You could be next
The odds of the game being switched to Newbridge have been slashed to 1/5. Do Paddy Power know something?
Quote from: MayoBuck on June 26, 2018, 09:58:35 PM
The odds of the game being switched to Newbridge have been slashed to 1/5. Do Paddy Power know something?
If it is Newbridge this Saturday they will need to announce it very soon for logistical reasons.
Have many Rhubarbs bought tickets?
I presume ye're 4,000 season ticket holders will be allocated seats and charged tomorrow?
If as looks likely the 2nd game doesn't happen will the Cavans and Tyrones get a fiver back?
Quote from: MayoBuck on June 26, 2018, 09:58:35 PM
The odds of the game being switched to Newbridge have been slashed to 1/5. Do Paddy Power know something?
Maybe the GAA have changed their mind and decided to fulfil the original fixture.
How many season ticket holders do the 2 counties have combined? A ballot??
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 26, 2018, 09:14:44 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 26, 2018, 08:47:44 PM
Mayo should be delighted to play in Newbridge, its the nearest they will get to silverware this year.
Funny but not as funny as your username or the fact you don't realise how funny your username is! ;)
Ah, give him a break. After all, he is from Roscommon, the land of Syferus, so a bit of latitude should be allowed. ;D
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: thebar on June 26, 2018, 07:37:15 PM
At the same time nothing. Kildare were drew out first and therefore have home advantage as the rules state. If the GAA had an issue with the Kildare county ground regarding holding matches they should have made it known long prior to now.
Yep, if it was Kildare v Leitrim, the game would be on in Newbridge, no questions asked. The GAA were giving Mayo an advantage because they are so well supported. Similar to the Wicklow v any other Leinster team bar the Dubs would have gone ahead in Aughrim.
This should all be set out by the GAA prior to the draw, instead of hoping for the best. Likewise the super 8 should be set in stone.
And if Mayo have an advantage then it is merely as a by-product of the GAA striving to maximise revenue to invest back into coaching and infrastructure. Trying to maximise money is not a bad thing given where we know it ends up. All that needs to happen is a small change in mindset of trying to strike the balance between what is good for the game versus what is good for the players and supporters. Some balance also needed in the media & public when debating all this..... i don't recall seeing anyone ranting and raving about the hurling round robin format being elitist (Brolly and co) compared to the commentary on the Super 8's.
Quote from: MayoBuck on June 26, 2018, 09:58:35 PM
The odds of the game being switched to Newbridge have been slashed to 1/5. Do Paddy Power know something?
And 4/1 for the game to be played in Croke park now.
Tweet from @KevinConnor1
5:30pm: Mayo team bus arrives to Newbridge. It pulls into Conleths. The gates are locked behind. Newbridge is barricaded "because of the racing or something."
6:40pm: Kildare warm up in Croke Park.
Cian O'Neill with the greatest managerial stroke of all time.
Quote from: Jayop on June 26, 2018, 10:20:29 PM
Tweet from @KevinConnor1
5:30pm: Mayo team bus arrives to Newbridge. It pulls into Conleths. The gates are locked behind. Newbridge is barricaded "because of the racing or something."
6:40pm: Kildare warm up in Croke Park.
Cian O'Neill with the greatest managerial stroke of all time.
Did think about this but Mayo are following Croke Parks directives
There is one county that solves this. They are in the West of Ireland.
The gaa won't like the idea of being seen to back down here but if they don't...
The whole season schedule is potentially fucked if Kildare - as is their right - choose to appeal.
It's a mess of their own making so let them clean it up now before it's too late!
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 26, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
There is one county that solves this. They are in the West of Ireland.
Leave Leitrim out of this
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 26, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
There is one county that solves this. They are in the West of Ireland.
To be fair to Mayo - they can't get involved in this & why would they.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 26, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
You have to realise that it is hard for Dublin supporters to understand Kildares situation. To be fair it's hard for Dublin to understand any situation! They never have any situation outside their norm. There have been a few token gesture games outside of Croke Park in the Leinster Championship. And in nearly all these cases the venue has been neutral. They are in their comfort zone Croke Park Bubble from one year to the next, picking off teams that come to visit over the summer.
The vast majority of Dublin GAA fans are backing Kildare over this. It seems that besides the big wigs at HQ that the only ones who want Kildare to step into line on this matter are a lot of Mayo fans who are acting like every Mayo man who wants to attend has a divine right to a match ticket.
Cop yourself on.The vast majority of mayo fans are with Kildare on this.
Whose necks on the line here.... tom ryans or fergal mcgills? it will go down as a very bad week for both if this continues?
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 26, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
There is one county that solves this. They are in the West of Ireland.
I never knew Gaa HQ was a county in the west of Ireland?
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 26, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
There is one county that solves this. They are in the West of Ireland.
You're f**king nuts.
There is absolutely no benefit for any county to jump in behind Kildare here.
In an office situation, when a middle manager decides to take a swipe at senior management, why would he expect his colleagues to jump in?
In a GAA situation what in f**k's name can Mayo gain from showing they're willing to play in an unsanctioned match, apart from being disciplined?
Mayo have not indicated a willingness or a preference for where this game is played. Because doing so, they are taking sides, and become part of the problem.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:09:19 PM
I saw the great Willie McCreery being interviewed in his yard earlier.
Himself and the horses were fully behind Kildare.
What about Charlie McCreevy?
Does anyone thing this is very convienent for Cian O'Neill?
It would remind you of Thatcher and the Fauklands.
Things are going badly, I presume he's under huge pressure, was it 10 losses on the bounce, lost to Carlow. Now they'll be building statues to him, he's safe for another year
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 26, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
You have to realise that it is hard for Dublin supporters to understand Kildares situation. To be fair it's hard for Dublin to understand any situation! They never have any situation outside their norm. There have been a few token gesture games outside of Croke Park in the Leinster Championship. And in nearly all these cases the venue has been neutral. They are in their comfort zone Croke Park Bubble from one year to the next, picking off teams that come to visit over the summer.
The vast majority of Dublin GAA fans are backing Kildare over this. It seems that besides the big wigs at HQ that the only ones who want Kildare to step into line on this matter are a lot of Mayo fans who are acting like every Mayo man who wants to attend has a divine right to a match ticket.
Luckily Dublin have none of the same issues for the Leinster Championship! Oh, the f***ing Irony!
Anyone watching the tonight show. Big dick must have his eye on a job in croker!!! Hes out of touch so would fit in well.
I hope the GAA don't back down. It's ridiculous that Kildare are trying to dictate where or when a match is played. Kildare have played in CP more than enough times. It is no disadvantage to them. Complete BS this whole thing is.
On a side note, is Cian O'Neill not a fully fledged GAA paid coach?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 26, 2018, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:09:19 PM
I saw the great Willie McCreery being interviewed in his yard earlier.
Himself and the horses were fully behind Kildare.
What about Charlie McCreevy?
Does anyone thing this is very convienent for Cian O'Neill?
It would remind you of Thatcher and the Fauklands.
Things are going badly, I presume he's under huge pressure, was it 10 losses on the bounce, lost to Carlow. Now they'll be building statues to him, he's safe for another year
He is almost certainly leaving for Munster rugby anyway, this has helped his standing regardless.
Dick Clerkin is the ultimate company man. Must have his eye on a cushy job at HQ.
Quote from: Therealdonald on June 26, 2018, 11:55:06 PM
I hope the GAA don't back down. It's ridiculous that Kildare are trying to dictate where or when a match is played. Kildare have played in CP more than enough times. It is no disadvantage to them. Complete BS this whole thing is.
On a side note, is Cian O'Neill not a fully fledged GAA paid coach?
You have it arseways Donald. Rules states first team out of the bowl are at home and Kildare are rightly looking for the set rules to stick. CP are the ones doing the dictating.
Quote from: WT4E on June 26, 2018, 11:52:09 PM
Anyone watching the tonight show. Big dick must have his eye on a job in croker!!! Hes out of touch so would fit in well.
Still peddling the line that the CCCC have the right to change the venue. This has been disproved all day but poor Dick obviously hasn't heard that. The CCCC thought they had the right but it turns out they don't. Please keep up Dick
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 27, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: Therealdonald on June 26, 2018, 11:55:06 PM
I hope the GAA don't back down. It's ridiculous that Kildare are trying to dictate where or when a match is played. Kildare have played in CP more than enough times. It is no disadvantage to them. Complete BS this whole thing is.
On a side note, is Cian O'Neill not a fully fledged GAA paid coach?
You have it arseways Donald. Rules states first team out of the bowl are at home and Kildare are rightly looking for the set rules to stick. CP are the ones doing the dictating.
Boys seriously what advantage is to be gained from playing it in Newbridge as opposed to CP? Someone said earlier it's just Cian O'Neill saving his job for next year. For me I hope they move it to Newbridge and Kildare get slaughtered. We talk about players having it too easy now etc. The tail is wagging the dog.
Before anyone starts, I know what the rules were, but Christ of almighty, we're not talking about playing the game in some sheep grazed field with the boundaries marked out with barbed wire. Its the best stadium in Ireland. If you can't win there then why bother playing?
It's a tad ironic when Monaghan go to lowly div 4 Leitrim, they will be playing in a modern tidy stadium by GAA standards, built after great efforts by local GAA and Range Rover Kildare have Newbridge and are now occupying the place of the downtrodden, the proletariat of the GAA world. Nevertheless I support Kildare 100% to play the game at home as the rules of the competition dictate, and 'as the competition rules' dictate is the germane phrase.
It is quite astounding that the association thinks they can play loose and fancy with the rules of the competition, obviously blinded by lure rather than competition.
Wherever this game is played now the good is gone from it.
Sad days indeed for our national sports.
Rugby World Cup next year for me.
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 01:13:01 AM
Wherever this game is played now the good is gone from it.
Sad days indeed for our national sports.
Rugby World Cup next year for me.
That last comment is bizarre from the point of view it is so far removed from what is being discussed. Never mind the fact that rugby in this country is so money orientated and removed from the grass roots with total focus on four professional teams.
Leinster regularly move games from their home venue to generate extra money and allow more people to see their games.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 26, 2018, 08:45:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 26, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: thebar on June 26, 2018, 07:37:15 PM
At the same time nothing. Kildare were drew out first and therefore have home advantage as the rules state. If the GAA had an issue with the Kildare county ground regarding holding matches they should have made it known long prior to now.
Yep, if it was Kildare v Leitrim, the game would be on in Newbridge, no questions asked. The GAA were giving Mayo an advantage because they are so well supported. Similar to the Wicklow v any other Leinster team bar the Dubs would have gone ahead in Aughrim.
This should all be set out by the GAA prior to the draw, instead of hoping for the best. Likewise the super 8 should be set in stone.
''Hoping for the best'' done the trick up to now! But counties are getting fed up of being second class citizens to the Chosen Dubs. Super 8 has been put in place to accommodate bored Dublin supporters and their media.
The word obsession comes to mind
The Bunker's a gas man. His first good few posts on this thread were all about blaming Sky. That turned out to be nonsense, so he switched his attention to the Dubs!
Quote from: Therealdonald on June 27, 2018, 12:56:13 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 27, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: Therealdonald on June 26, 2018, 11:55:06 PM
I hope the GAA don't back down. It's ridiculous that Kildare are trying to dictate where or when a match is played. Kildare have played in CP more than enough times. It is no disadvantage to them. Complete BS this whole thing is.
On a side note, is Cian O'Neill not a fully fledged GAA paid coach?
You have it arseways Donald. Rules states first team out of the bowl are at home and Kildare are rightly looking for the set rules to stick. CP are the ones doing the dictating.
Boys seriously what advantage is to be gained from playing it in Newbridge as opposed to CP? Someone said earlier it's just Cian O'Neill saving his job for next year. For me I hope they move it to Newbridge and Kildare get slaughtered. We talk about players having it too easy now etc. The tail is wagging the dog.
Before anyone starts, I know what the rules were, but Christ of almighty, we're not talking about playing the game in some sheep grazed field with the boundaries marked out with barbed wire. Its the best stadium in Ireland. If you can't win there then why bother playing?
Frankly we don't care what you hope or don't hope.
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Quote from: Main Street on June 27, 2018, 01:12:27 AM
It's a tad ironic when Monaghan go to lowly div 4 Leitrim, they will be playing in a modern tidy stadium by GAA standards, built after great efforts by local GAA and Range Rover Kildare have Newbridge and are now occupying the place of the downtrodden, the proletariat of the GAA world. Nevertheless I support Kildare 100% to play the game at home as the rules of the competition dictate, and 'as the competition rules' dictate is the germane phrase.
It is quite astounding that the association thinks they can play loose and fancy with the rules of the competition, obviously blinded by lure rather than competition.
You do of course. After the sly dig. ::)
it's Wedneday morning now - this would want to come to a conclusion one or the way other very soon.
Is there a provision for putting it back to Sunday.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 11:48:27 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 26, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
You have to realise that it is hard for Dublin supporters to understand Kildares situation. To be fair it's hard for Dublin to understand any situation! They never have any situation outside their norm. There have been a few token gesture games outside of Croke Park in the Leinster Championship. And in nearly all these cases the venue has been neutral. They are in their comfort zone Croke Park Bubble from one year to the next, picking off teams that come to visit over the summer.
The vast majority of Dublin GAA fans are backing Kildare over this. It seems that besides the big wigs at HQ that the only ones who want Kildare to step into line on this matter are a lot of Mayo fans who are acting like every Mayo man who wants to attend has a divine right to a match ticket.
Wasn't that one of the big selling points with the season ticket though??
Quote from: Tubberman on June 27, 2018, 07:59:18 AM
it's Wedneday morning now - this would want to come to a conclusion one or the way other very soon.
What do you mean?
The conculsion has already been made, both parties, Kildare and the GAA, have made their position clear.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/10-key-questions-as-kildare-venue-row-rumbles-on-37054026.html
Kildare have painted themselves into a corner and cannot back down. What could change things is a player revolt. If they come out and say they'll play in CP. Cian O'Neill would be nothing more than a zombie manager at that stage.
The best result Kildare can hope for is that Mayo are given a walk over. They're a beaten docket regardless if the game goes ahead in Newbridge or not.
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Enjoy your Saffas, Kiwis etc in the team of us.
Quote from: ardtole on June 27, 2018, 08:01:59 AM
Is there a provision for putting it back to Sunday.
Round of Junior championship games in Mayo on Sunday.
Quote from: trailer on June 27, 2018, 08:19:24 AM
Kildare have painted themselves into a corner and cannot back down. What could change things is a player revolt. If they come out and say they'll play in CP. Cian O'Neill would be nothing more than a zombie manager at that stage.
The best result Kildare can hope for is that Mayo are given a walk over. They're a beaten docket regardless if the game goes ahead in Newbridge or not.
Thanks for your input.
I'll be sure to let Cian and the Kildare players know.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 27, 2018, 08:29:06 AM
Quote from: ardtole on June 27, 2018, 08:01:59 AM
Is there a provision for putting it back to Sunday.
Round of Junior championship games in Mayo on Sunday.
And your point is?
Kildare deserve the game at home
They broke no rules
The Mayo CB could have sorted this with a simple 'we'll see you in newbridge' message.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 27, 2018, 08:40:24 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 27, 2018, 08:29:06 AM
Quote from: ardtole on June 27, 2018, 08:01:59 AM
Is there a provision for putting it back to Sunday.
Round of Junior championship games in Mayo on Sunday.
And your point is?
Kildare deserve the game at home
They broke no rules
The Mayo CB could have sorted this with a simple 'we'll see you in newbridge' message.
Mayo have broken no rules either.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 27, 2018, 08:40:24 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 27, 2018, 08:29:06 AM
Quote from: ardtole on June 27, 2018, 08:01:59 AM
Is there a provision for putting it back to Sunday.
Round of Junior championship games in Mayo on Sunday.
And your point is?
Kildare deserve the game at home
They broke no rules
The Mayo CB could have sorted this with a simple 'we'll see you in newbridge' message.
Mayo put alot of effort into the all Ireland championship. They are planning from before Christmas. Do you really think they should throw away another year because of something that really is nothing to do with them??
Quote from: trailer on June 27, 2018, 08:19:24 AM
Kildare have painted themselves into a corner and cannot back down. What could change things is a player revolt. If they come out and say they'll play in CP. Cian O'Neill would be nothing more than a zombie manager at that stage.
The best result Kildare can hope for is that Mayo are given a walk over. They're a beaten docket regardless if the game goes ahead in Newbridge or not.
That is very Tyrone.
It is also deluded.
Quote from: trailer on June 27, 2018, 08:19:24 AM
Kildare have painted themselves into a corner and cannot back down. What could change things is a player revolt. If they come out and say they'll play in CP. Cian O'Neill would be nothing more than a zombie manager at that stage.
The best result Kildare can hope for is that Mayo are given a walk over. They're a beaten docket regardless if the game goes ahead in Newbridge or not.
You don't seriously think the Kildare board & manager took this stand without consulting the players. That's the kind of statement I'd expect from the GAA officials this week as they seem to be totally out of touch with the ordinary GAA fan.
Home advantage makes a difference in every sport. There's a reason Man Utd for example play all their home games in Manchester rather than Wembley even though they could get bigger crowds in Wembley.
With the planned announcement from Kildare yesterday being cancelled it would allude to some discussions going on in the background.
CP will be looking to offer €€€ to KCB to get Newbridge revamped. Will they take it??
So it was Nicky Brennan's turn last night on OFB, 'I haven't looked at the rule book but I know the GAA are in the right'
They'd do well to keep to keep their mouths shut going forward. Sean Kelly too yesterday morning completely missing the point when stating additional payments to Kildare would solve the problem.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 09:01:04 AM
So it was Nicky Brennan's turn last night on OFB, 'I haven't looked at the rule book but I know the GAA are in the right'
They'd do well to keep to keep their mouths shut going forward. Sean Kelly too yesterday morning completely missing the point when stating additional payments to Kildare would solve the problem.
Nicky Brennan is a joke. If Kilkenny were aggrieved back in the Cody pomp and the GAA fobbed them off with that's the why /H&S, Brennan would be livid.
Someone should have asked Nickey about Kilkenny football
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Go and look at the ireland, New Zealand or England team sheets and the players place of birth and come back about integrity of sport.
At least the money made by the gaa will be reinvested in the sport including the redevelopment of newbridge and coaches etc.
I do believe this game should be in Kildare but the reaction is totally over the top. Kildare county board getting of lightly given they don't have a ground fit enough to hold big games given amount they've spent on outside managers. The gaa have always tried to maximise attendances and to me that should always be a priority. Looking at the results home advantage isn't as big a factor as is being made out. Croke Park is also one of the best stadiums in Europe, 45 minutes from Kildare and they've played there plenty so it shouldn't be that big a disadvantage.
Quote from: Redhand Santa on June 27, 2018, 09:14:46 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Go and look at the ireland, New Zealand or England team sheets and the players place of birth and come back about integrity of sport.
At least the money made by the gaa will be reinvested in the sport including the redevelopment of newbridge and coaches etc.
I do believe this game should be in Kildare but the reaction is totally over the top. Kildare county board getting of lightly given they don't have a ground fit enough to hold big games given amount they've spent on outside managers. The gaa have always tried to maximise attendances and to me that should always be a priority. Looking at the results home advantage isn't as big a factor as is being made out. Croke Park is also one of the best stadiums in Europe, 45 minutes from Kildare and they've played there plenty so it shouldn't be that big a disadvantage.
They shouldn't have a disadvantage at all regarding the venue
Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 08:26:04 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Enjoy your Saffas, Kiwis etc in the team of us.
From the county starting a Roscommon forward and a Sligo midfielder this has to go down as a bit of a clanger of a reposte, spuds.
None of this would have happened if Aidan O Shea hadn't spent so much time signing autographs. Mayo wouldn't even be in qfs. Kildare would have drawn Clare and Newbridge would have been grand even at 5.15 in parallel with the derby.
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
Ok Nicky.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 09:01:04 AM
So it was Nicky Brennan's turn last night on OFB, 'I haven't looked at the rule book but I know the GAA are in the right'
They'd do well to keep to keep their mouths shut going forward. Sean Kelly too yesterday morning completely missing the point when stating additional payments to Kildare would solve the problem.
You're right. Sean Kelly summed up all that's wrong with the thinking from the head honchos in Croke Park. He didn't even have to think when asked for a solution, just said pay off Kildare co board and they'll be happy.
They don't seem able to grasp that it's not about money and that if Kildare board accept a pay off now they might as well hand in their resignations as well. They would be dead to everyone connected in Kildare GAA from the ordinary gaa member in the county up to the Cian O'Neill and the county panel.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 27, 2018, 09:11:46 AM
Someone should have asked Nickey about Kilkenny football
Would you believe he actually managed the KK footballers years ago?
Quote from: dublin7 on June 27, 2018, 09:33:10 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 09:01:04 AM
So it was Nicky Brennan's turn last night on OFB, 'I haven't looked at the rule book but I know the GAA are in the right'
They'd do well to keep to keep their mouths shut going forward. Sean Kelly too yesterday morning completely missing the point when stating additional payments to Kildare would solve the problem.
You're right. Sean Kelly summed up all that's wrong with the thinking from the head honchos in Croke Park. He didn't even have to think when asked for a solution, just said pay off Kildare co board and they'll be happy.
They don't seem able to grasp that it's not about money and that if Kildare board accept a pay off now they might as well hand in their resignations as well. They would be dead to everyone connected in Kildare GAA from the ordinary gaa member in the county up to the Cian O'Neill and the county panel.
For it not to be about the Money, Kildare and other Leinster teams do some moaning about the money Dublin get.
But it's not about the money. It's about doing what is right, well this time at least, not the time with the Seanie Johnston fiasco, that wasn't about doing what is right, that was different.
Quote from: trailer on June 27, 2018, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 27, 2018, 09:33:10 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 09:01:04 AM
So it was Nicky Brennan's turn last night on OFB, 'I haven't looked at the rule book but I know the GAA are in the right'
They'd do well to keep to keep their mouths shut going forward. Sean Kelly too yesterday morning completely missing the point when stating additional payments to Kildare would solve the problem.
You're right. Sean Kelly summed up all that's wrong with the thinking from the head honchos in Croke Park. He didn't even have to think when asked for a solution, just said pay off Kildare co board and they'll be happy.
They don't seem able to grasp that it's not about money and that if Kildare board accept a pay off now they might as well hand in their resignations as well. They would be dead to everyone connected in Kildare GAA from the ordinary gaa member in the county up to the Cian O'Neill and the county panel.
For it not to be about the Money, Kildare and other Leinster teams do some moaning about the money Dublin get.
But it's not about the money. It's about doing what is right, well this time at least, not the time with the Seanie Johnston fiasco, that wasn't about doing what is right, that was different.
Some one needs to contact your village.
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
No . . . that is all bullshit!
This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #
With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?
Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Quote from: trailer on June 27, 2018, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 27, 2018, 09:33:10 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 09:01:04 AM
So it was Nicky Brennan's turn last night on OFB, 'I haven't looked at the rule book but I know the GAA are in the right'
They'd do well to keep to keep their mouths shut going forward. Sean Kelly too yesterday morning completely missing the point when stating additional payments to Kildare would solve the problem.
You're right. Sean Kelly summed up all that's wrong with the thinking from the head honchos in Croke Park. He didn't even have to think when asked for a solution, just said pay off Kildare co board and they'll be happy.
They don't seem able to grasp that it's not about money and that if Kildare board accept a pay off now they might as well hand in their resignations as well. They would be dead to everyone connected in Kildare GAA from the ordinary gaa member in the county up to the Cian O'Neill and the county panel.
For it not to be about the Money, Kildare and other Leinster teams do some moaning about the money Dublin get.
But it's not about the money. It's about doing what is right, well this time at least, not the time with the Seanie Johnston fiasco, that wasn't about doing what is right, that was different.
Did Seanie take your place on that hurling team?
We've now reached page 60 and we're nearly all still in group think that Kildare is right and the GAA ( and Mayo with some )is wrong.
Why didn't KCB fight their case with the 4Cs/HQ on Monday morning after they were asked to nominate amother venue?
Instead it appears they refused to engage and then went into the public domain and painted themselves into a corner from which there's no retreat?
Not much leadership or negotiation skills there.
As it stands they're going to refuse to fulfil an official fixture, get thrown out of the competition then presumably start a long drawn out appeals process and fûck up the Summer for 11 other Counties and their supporters and of course all the club players in those Counties.
All because they have a dump of a County ground.
I expect loads of abuse for this post
https://twitter.com/electionlit/status/1011890221296816129
If Mayo are given a walkover, I presume it will be too late to stop the other Round 3 games going ahead but I'm guessing Kildare could look for an injunction to stop the Round 4 games going ahead.
I wonder if HQ are banking on public sentiment turning against Kildare if they are seen to be delaying/disrupting the rest of the championship, in which case everyone needs to be very vocal in their support.
This is the most positive I have ever been about the county & people of Kildare.
Don't make me regret this, flourbags.
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
In case you missed it I'll remind you that there is no entitlement to getting a ticket for a match and just because Mayo have lots of fans doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Furthermore even if you have a season ticket it STILL doesn't automatically entitle you to a ticket. Here is section 42 of the current season ticket Ts&Cs
"In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture"
Capacity in Newbridge is a red herring.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
We've now reached page 60 and we're nearly all still in group think that Kildare is right and the GAA ( and Mayo with some )is wrong.
Why didn't KCB fight their case with the 4Cs/HQ on Monday morning after they were asked to nominate amother venue?
Instead it appears they refused to engage and then went into the public domain and painted themselves into a corner from which there's no retreat?
Not much leadership or negotiation skills there.
As it stands they're going to refuse to fulfil an official fixture, get thrown out of the competition then presumably start a long drawn out appeals process and fûck up the Summer for 11 other Counties and their supporters and of course all the club players in those Counties.
All because they have a dump of a County ground.
I expect loads of abuse for this post
Why would you get abuse for not understanding the rules? Kildare have broken no rules, the GAA are the ones who have. It's not rocket science. It's quite black and white really.
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Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
No . . . that is all bullshit!
This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #
With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?
Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.
Seán Moran: GAA correct not to respond to Kildare ultimatum
The one imperative in the whole sorry episode from Croke Park's perspective is that they can't have a county wantonly refusing to abide by its directives in relation to fixtures. Setting such a precedent would lead to anarchy.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/se%C3%A1n-moran-gaa-correct-not-to-respond-to-kildare-ultimatum-1.3544935?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/se%C3%A1n-moran-gaa-correct-not-to-respond-to-kildare-ultimatum-1.3544935?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
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Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
We've now reached page 60 and we're nearly all still in group think that Kildare is right and the GAA ( and Mayo with some )is wrong.
Why didn't KCB fight their case with the 4Cs/HQ on Monday morning after they were asked to nominate amother venue?
Instead it appears they refused to engage and then went into the public domain and painted themselves into a corner from which there's no retreat?
Not much leadership or negotiation skills there.
As it stands they're going to refuse to fulfil an official fixture, get thrown out of the competition then presumably start a long drawn out appeals process and fûck up the Summer for 11 other Counties and their supporters and of course all the club players in those Counties.
All because they have a dump of a County ground.
I expect loads of abuse for this post
Nail on head.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
We've now reached page 60 and we're nearly all still in group think that Kildare is right and the GAA ( and Mayo with some )is wrong.
Why didn't KCB fight their case with the 4Cs/HQ on Monday morning after they were asked to nominate amother venue?
Instead it appears they refused to engage and then went into the public domain and painted themselves into a corner from which there's no retreat?
Not much leadership or negotiation skills there.
As it stands they're going to refuse to fulfil an official fixture, get thrown out of the competition then presumably start a long drawn out appeals process and fûck up the Summer for 11 other Counties and their supporters and of course all the club players in those Counties.
All because they have a dump of a County ground.
I expect loads of abuse for this post
Maybe they did ? Maybe they simply looked at the rules and decided that they were doing nothing wrong and that common sense would prevail. The GAA then tried to bounce them into something and they are refusing to comply. Good on them.
Quote from: straightred on June 27, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
In case you missed it I'll remind you that there is no entitlement to getting a ticket for a match and just because Mayo have lots of fans doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Furthermore even if you have a season ticket it STILL doesn't automatically entitle you to a ticket. Here is section 42 of the current season ticket Ts&Cs
"In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture"
Capacity in Newbridge is a red herring.
Its not a red herring it is relevant and fans put money into the GAA. What always strikes me about us in the GAA we always gice off, about the CB, Croke Park, the GPA etc... but it is a democratic organisation, it can be changed by a majority vote. You just have to want the change enough to persuade the CB, PC and Congress.
Quote from: straightred on June 27, 2018, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
We've now reached page 60 and we're nearly all still in group think that Kildare is right and the GAA ( and Mayo with some )is wrong.
Why didn't KCB fight their case with the 4Cs/HQ on Monday morning after they were asked to nominate amother venue?
Instead it appears they refused to engage and then went into the public domain and painted themselves into a corner from which there's no retreat?
Not much leadership or negotiation skills there.
As it stands they're going to refuse to fulfil an official fixture, get thrown out of the competition then presumably start a long drawn out appeals process and fûck up the Summer for 11 other Counties and their supporters and of course all the club players in those Counties.
All because they have a dump of a County ground.
I expect loads of abuse for this post
Maybe they did ? Maybe they simply looked at the rules and decided that they were doing nothing wrong and that common sense would prevail. The GAA then tried to bounce them into something and they are refusing to comply. Good on them.
But there's no maybe, they didn't. They were asked to nominate an alternate venue, they refused so the game was fixed for croker
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
We've now reached page 60 and we're nearly all still in group think that Kildare is right and the GAA ( and Mayo with some )is wrong.
Why didn't KCB fight their case with the 4Cs/HQ on Monday morning after they were asked to nominate amother venue?
Instead it appears they refused to engage and then went into the public domain and painted themselves into a corner from which there's no retreat?
Not much leadership or negotiation skills there.
As it stands they're going to refuse to fulfil an official fixture, get thrown out of the competition then presumably start a long drawn out appeals process and fûck up the Summer for 11 other Counties and their supporters and of course all the club players in those Counties.
All because they have a dump of a County ground.
I expect loads of abuse for this post
Off the Ball am interviewed Ned Quinn the chairman of the CCCC yesterday morning (it's on youtube). Car crash performance by Ned.
Based on his interview Kildare told them they wanted to play in newbridge. CCCC asked Kildare to name an alternative venue. Kidare didn't as they wanted newbridge. Bear in imnd they had permission from the gardai for 7pm throw in and ground meets H&S requirements. It seems Kildare only found out it was in croke park when they seen the GAA's press release. When Ned was asked did anyone from the CCCC ring the kildare board to tell them they were switching the game to croker he couldn't get a straight answer. In other word they didn't and arrogantly thought Kildare would just accept it and say nothing
It was in the year of eighteen, in the lovely month of Jan
The Lily whites were promoted and the excitement it was grand
But seven games on the trot they were f**king traumatic ,
and relegation when it came sure it was automatic
The championship start was not ideal, Kildare fragile you know
And who came out of the draw itself but WTF Carlow
And Horse Lawlor he did get the ball and had loads of time to choose
And once he set his sights on goal sure the Lilies could only lose
And KCR they lost the plot, sure the Carlow boys went mad
While on KFM across the county the mood was very sad
The rasta midgets had had their day, their victory was tremenjus
But the Flourbags had to lick their wounds and start praying the Angelus.
This was worse than an embarrassment it was biblical in scope
And on the board Kuwabate and Donnellys had surrendered all their hope
O'Neill was f**king hopeless and his tactics were so poor
What was he doing managing the Lilies, the useless clueless hoor
And outsiders they did shake the head and ask all the questions
All that money in Kildare and the team is only messin'
And Newbridge it is still a kip with no corporate suites to offer
And Meath are just as bad and the 2 counties have nothing in the coffer
But life is about soldiering on and the qualifiers offer redemption
Even if the Lilies were only looking at a losing series extension
At least it's not the Leinster championship with the Dubs , that awful load
You can win a few matches with a bit of luck and go further down the road
In Derry the opposition was hard enough to beat
The backs and forwards had to work together in the heat
This was a novelty after all the losing- it was hard to stay on task
But they kept the engine running and that's all anyone could ever ask.
Next up the Larries in their home place- the fans had to shell out
They had beaten Meath you see and were in with a good shout
But the flourbags got the oul mojo going it was a decent oul feeling
An open road and enough horsepower to leave the Larries reeling
So now onto Round 3 and hopefully deeper into July
A draw like Clare at home it would be surely worth a try
A three game winning streak is better than playing cat
And a Saturday evening in the town with pints you could well get used to that
Ah well some of the lads and lassies had never been arsed watching the Lilies at home before.
It would be the first time Geraldine would have seen the forwards score.
And before they heard the draw, they knew they'd play the same
So they all agreed that Newbridge was the place to play the game.
But the hoors above in Dublin they had a fella called McGill
And he f**king ordered the Lilies to play in Dublin
The county it was outraged ONeill would take no crap
And Kildare defied the HQ and all attempts at a bitchslap.
So CP rolled out some big guns and the biggest , Health and Safety
They wanted all the Kildare fans to be drinking in the Big Tree
But Kildare decided otherwise, they had the gander going
And Croke Park ran out of ammunition and the public started groaning
And the Super 8s are the golden goose and the timing is essential
But if Kildare go down the legal route delays will be unmissable
The CLG head are in a bind they don't know what to do
The clock is ticking as we speak this is a huge issue
So Kildare have had a change of fate even if they lose on Sat
Because the energy unleashed you cannot defend against that
And CLG, the useless hoors, they really need some insight
You cannot force the Lilies into something that is shite.
So Horse Lawlor's goal was not the end, it was not the end at all
The Kildare lads got time to fight both on and off the ball
They discovered balls they had all over the county of Kildare
And they united around a great oul line- Newbridge or nowhere
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 10:07:18 AM
Seán Moran: GAA correct not to respond to Kildare ultimatum
The one imperative in the whole sorry episode from Croke Park's perspective is that they can't have a county wantonly refusing to abide by its directives in relation to fixtures. Setting such a precedent would lead to anarchy.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/se%C3%A1n-moran-gaa-correct-not-to-respond-to-kildare-ultimatum-1.3544935?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/se%C3%A1n-moran-gaa-correct-not-to-respond-to-kildare-ultimatum-1.3544935?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
???
Not surprising from him but the GAA has a bigger interest in the form of the Super 8 to defend and Kildare can blow up the timing.
So the GAA has to protect that and it can't by putting the foot down
This is all about expectation management. And the GAA did not tell any county that CP could be used if HQ fancied it.
It is exactly the same with kids. You canot discipline them properly if you don't manage expectations
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 10:12:35 AM
Quote from: straightred on June 27, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
In case you missed it I'll remind you that there is no entitlement to getting a ticket for a match and just because Mayo have lots of fans doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Furthermore even if you have a season ticket it STILL doesn't automatically entitle you to a ticket. Here is section 42 of the current season ticket Ts&Cs
"In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture"
Capacity in Newbridge is a red herring.
Its not a red herring it is relevant and fans put money into the GAA. What always strikes me about us in the GAA we always gice off, about the CB, Croke Park, the GPA etc... but it is a democratic organisation, it can be changed by a majority vote. You just have to want the change enough to persuade the CB, PC and Congress.
You actually believe that? The rejection of the transparency regarding votes at Congress blew that out of the water. So many hurdles to jump and then at the end HQ only need to manipulate 150 or so delegates, a mixture of the ambitious, the easily led and those who just want to keep their cosy existence intact and will do the powers-that-be's bidding.
Someone told me today that if Kildare don't show up in Croke Park then they will also be expelled from the championship next year. Is that true?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 10:12:40 AM
Quote from: straightred on June 27, 2018, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
We've now reached page 60 and we're nearly all still in group think that Kildare is right and the GAA ( and Mayo with some )is wrong.
Why didn't KCB fight their case with the 4Cs/HQ on Monday morning after they were asked to nominate amother venue?
Instead it appears they refused to engage and then went into the public domain and painted themselves into a corner from which there's no retreat?
Not much leadership or negotiation skills there.
As it stands they're going to refuse to fulfil an official fixture, get thrown out of the competition then presumably start a long drawn out appeals process and fûck up the Summer for 11 other Counties and their supporters and of course all the club players in those Counties.
All because they have a dump of a County ground.
I expect loads of abuse for this post
Maybe they did ? Maybe they simply looked at the rules and decided that they were doing nothing wrong and that common sense would prevail. The GAA then tried to bounce them into something and they are refusing to comply. Good on them.
But there's no maybe, they didn't. They were asked to nominate an alternate venue, they refused so the game was fixed for croker
Now you're going around in circles. They've already explained why they didn't. As far as they are concerned they didn't need to. I've seen nothing concrete to lead me to believe they are wrong in this regard. We've had lots of hearsay and opinions but when it comes down to the actually reality my belief is that the GAA have actually broken their own rules. I also believe they did it unwittingly and that its not about the money etc but in many ways that doesn't matter any more. Kildare had home advantage and it was taken off them. For me the deal breaker is that the guards agreed to them hosting the match. As far as I'm concerned their H&S concerns trump the GAAs H&S concerns.
The capacity doesn't come into it either. events are oversubscribed all the time and the GAA have actually catered for that in their season ticket conditions. Understandably they want to accommodate them but they don't have to.
The GAA messed up here and this stable door will be well and truly bolted in the future to stop this happening again. The rules should have been written in a way that gave the GAA the authority to do what they did. Had this been the case Kildare would have moved the match because they had to.
I think Sean Moran is 100% right about HQ's primary concern here being the precedent Kildare might set and the effect this could have on the CCCC.
Not in the context of counties just randomly deciding not to turn up for scheduled fixtures, but in the sense that smaller counties will decide they won't be pushed around to fit in with external demands such as accommodating travelling support, TV coverage etc.
Quote from: Itchy on June 27, 2018, 10:23:29 AM
Someone told me today that if Kildare don't show up in Croke Park then they will also be expelled from the championship next year. Is that true?
Would this rule them out of the O'Byrne Cup?
Quote from: straightred on June 27, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
In case you missed it I'll remind you that there is no entitlement to getting a ticket for a match and just because Mayo have lots of fans doesn't make a blind bit of difference.
Why on earth would the GAA want to stop people going to games to pander to showboating? Smallish counties like Fermanagh and Sligo have decent grounds and even when Armagh didn't have the Athletic grounds we were able to host a qualifier with Donegal in Crossmaglen. Being able to go to games is an important part of the GAA, not being allowed go and being forced to pay for Sky to watch a game is not good for the GAA.
Kildare seem to be using tactics drawn from the British Brexit negotiators.
However the GAA should perhaps have set out this in the rules more clearly, so that it would be discussed before the draw.
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
No . . . that is all bullshit!
This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #
With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?
Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.
If fans are so important then are Kildare fans not entitled to go to a game in our own county? I've travelled to grounds outside our own county for our last three games. I travelled to Mayo for a third round qualifier two years ago for a 7 o'clock throw in when Mayo were drawn at home. It was outlined before the draw that the first county drawn out were entitled to a home game unless the fixture was Div 1/Div 2 vs Div 3/Div 4. That's not the case here.
Kildare were drawn out first.
The ground can comfortably cater for the numbers of those entitled to a ticket (as it did in the league when the same number of season ticket holders existed).
This game should be in Newbridge.
The GAA thought Kildare would just piss and moan about going to Croke Park but ultimately relent. They were wrong and now they're up shit creek without a paddle.
Quote from: Itchy on June 27, 2018, 10:23:29 AM
Someone told me today that if Kildare don't show up in Croke Park then they will also be expelled from the championship next year. Is that true?
I am calling it now - Dublin to get any bye in the Leinster Championship if Kildare are expelled.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 27, 2018, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: straightred on June 27, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
In case you missed it I'll remind you that there is no entitlement to getting a ticket for a match and just because Mayo have lots of fans doesn't make a blind bit of difference.
Why on earth would the GAA want to stop people going to games to pander to showboating? Smallish counties like Fermanagh and Sligo have decent grounds and even when Armagh didn't have the Athletic grounds we were able to host a qualifier with Donegal in Crossmaglen. Being able to go to games is an important part of the GAA, not being allowed go and being forced to pay for Sky to watch a game is not good for the GAA.
Kildare seem to be using tactics drawn from the British Brexit negotiators.
However the GAA should perhaps have set out this in the rules more clearly, so that it would be discussed before the draw.
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm simply pointing out that the GAA have covered the angle of season tickets and capacity. Your last line is the nub of the issue. Had this been done properly we wouldn't have this debacle.
Quote from: seafoid on June 27, 2018, 10:16:21 AM
It was in the year of eighteen, in the lovely month of Jan
The Lily whites were promoted and the excitement it was grand
But seven games on the trot they were f**king traumatic ,
and relegation when it came sure it was automatic
The championship start was not ideal, Kildare fragile you know
And who came out of the draw itself but WTF Carlow
And Horse Lawlor he did get the ball and had loads of time to choose
And once he set his sights on goal sure the Lilies could only lose
And KCR they lost the plot, sure the Carlow boys went mad
While on KFM across the county the mood was very sad
The rasta midgets had had their day, their victory was tremenjus
But the Flourbags had to lick their wounds and start praying the Angelus.
This was worse than an embarrassment it was biblical in scope
And on the board Kuwabate and Donnellys had surrendered all their hope
O'Neill was f**king hopeless and his tactics were so poor
What was he doing managing the Lilies, the useless clueless hoor
And outsiders they did shake the head and ask all the questions
All that money in Kildare and the team is only messin'
And Newbridge it is still a kip with no corporate suites to offer
And Meath are just as bad and the 2 counties have nothing in the coffer
But life is about soldiering on and the qualifiers offer redemption
Even if the Lilies were only looking at a losing series extension
At least it's not the Leinster championship with the Dubs , that awful load
You can win a few matches with a bit of luck and go further down the road
In Derry the opposition was hard enough to beat
The backs and forwards had to work together in the heat
This was a novelty after all the losing- it was hard to stay on task
But they kept the engine running and that's all anyone could ever ask.
Next up the Larries in their home place- the fans had to shell out
They had beaten Meath you see and were in with a good shout
But the flourbags got the oul mojo going it was a decent oul feeling
An open road and enough horsepower to leave the Larries reeling
So now onto Round 3 and hopefully deeper into July
A draw like Clare at home it would be surely worth a try
A three game winning streak is better than playing cat
And a Saturday evening in the town with pints you could well get used to that
Ah well some of the lads and lassies had never been arsed watching the Lilies at home before.
It would be the first time Geraldine would have seen the forwards score.
And before they heard the draw, they knew they'd play the same
So they all agreed that Newbridge was the place to play the game.
But the hoors above in Dublin they had a fella called McGill
And he f**king ordered the Lilies to play in Dublin
The county it was outraged ONeill would take no crap
And Kildare defied the HQ and all attempts at a bitchslap.
So CP rolled out some big guns and the biggest , Health and Safety
They wanted all the Kildare fans to be drinking in the Big Tree
But Kildare decided otherwise, they had the gander going
And Croke Park ran out of ammunition and the public started groaning
And the Super 8s are the golden goose and the timing is essential
But if Kildare go down the legal route delays will be unmissable
The CLG head are in a bind they don't know what to do
The clock is ticking as we speak this is a huge issue
So Kildare have had a change of fate even if they lose on Sat
Because the energy unleashed you cannot defend against that
And CLG, the useless hoors, they really need some insight
You cannot force the Lilies into something that is shite.
So Horse Lawlor's goal was not the end, it was not the end at all
The Kildare lads got time to fight both on and off the ball
They discovered balls they had all over the county of Kildare
And they united around a great oul line- Newbridge or nowhere
Any music to the great lyrics ?
Kildare's call.
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
We've now reached page 60 and we're nearly all still in group think that Kildare is right and the GAA ( and Mayo with some )is wrong.
Why didn't KCB fight their case with the 4Cs/HQ on Monday morning after they were asked to nominate amother venue?
Instead it appears they refused to engage and then went into the public domain and painted themselves into a corner from which there's no retreat?
Not much leadership or negotiation skills there.
As it stands they're going to refuse to fulfil an official fixture, get thrown out of the competition then presumably start a long drawn out appeals process and fûck up the Summer for 11 other Counties and their supporters and of course all the club players in those Counties.
All because they have a dump of a County ground.
I expect loads of abuse for this post
Nail on head.
Correct.
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Someone told me today that if Kildare don't show up in Croke Park then they will also be expelled from the championship next year. Is that true?
I am calling it now - Dublin to get any bye in the Leinster Championship if Kildare are expelled.
They badly need it.
Ah now, this is ultimately a GAA f**k up. Changing goalposts (literally) AFTER draw was made. Then selling tickets online for Croker without Kildare consent. (Arrogance of that). Then that clown Feargal McGill releases statement about forfeiture which just forced entrenched positions .They should have been sorting this out in the background rather than picking a row. It was a GAA f**k up. Not a hint of an apology either. Why haven't we built a bigger stadium? Well when you get one home provincial game in 30 years, why the f**k would you bother?
I really don't think there is any pressure on Mayo to do what some people are calling "the right thing" and turn up in Newbridge with Kildare.
Mayo are one of the top teams in the country and began championship preparations 6 months ago. Does anyone really expect them to throw that away for something that is really nothing to do with them? If I was a mayo fan and they did that id be furious.
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Quote from: RedHand88 on June 27, 2018, 10:34:11 AM
I really don't think there is any pressure on Mayo to do what some people are calling "the right thing" and turn up in Newbridge with Kildare.
Mayo are one of the top teams in the country and began championship preparations 6 months ago. Does anyone really expect them to throw that away for something that is really nothing to do with them? If I was a mayo fan and they did that id be furious.
Agreed - its not their fight and they are right to keep the heads down and stay out of it.
Nobody has asked Mayo to do anything.Cian O Neill made this very clear. A lot of people assuming Kildare will go legal route too if thrown out. If we are throwing out, I'd like to see a few people in GAA HQ having their positions reviewed. It's clear they can't manage the association adequately. It's clear grassroots are cheesed off with them over how they are running the association generally.
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Sold out?
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Sold out?
Are they f*ck? Those tickets are selling for Croke Park so it's hardly sold out. Haven't taken money for the season tickets today either.
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The GAA PR brigade have rounded the wagons today with the help of their friends in the press. They tell you this is for everyone's good. Fairness of competition is forgotten as it's not part of the argument. Public will shift. Game will be in Croke Park. Why do we bother?
2:03 AM - 27 Jun 2018
I agree with the sentiment above.
Even this morning on here you can feel there is a shift towards the HQ position.
Outrage has a shelf-life, so I would expect to see more of this 'lets be reasonable here' stuff in the following days from the established GAA hacks.
If the game was on the following weekend I would bet the house it would be switched to Croke Park, but time is on Kildare's side here.
Either the GAA concede defeat today or we're looking at a walkover.
There is no time for anything else.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 10:26:30 AM
I think Sean Moran is 100% right about HQ's primary concern here being the precedent Kildare might set and the effect this could have on the CCCC.
Not in the context of counties just randomly deciding not to turn up for scheduled fixtures, but in the sense that smaller counties will decide they won't be pushed around to fit in with external demands such as accommodating travelling support, TV coverage etc.
It appears the GAA are wheeling out their yes men, ex players who are in their pocket and journalists who are favoured. Big Dick was an embarrassment yesterday.
Dick is a GAA/SKY company man.
Yah I noticed that change in sentiment. Not sure why. Nothing has changed. Except time is running out for Croke Park. In more ways than one for the ones who created this message when they should have been managing it. In other organisations , a f**k up like this would mean they'd be updating their CVs next week.
Be some craic when they try to force a 'B' championship among us
Twice on national airwaves Big Dick plucked a Kildare v Limerick fixture from 2012 as example when Kildare wanted the game moved from Newbridge . He couldn't have been further wrong. That was another stunt from Croke Park to get a few extra quid in.
Quote from: LilySavage on June 27, 2018, 10:59:19 AM
Twice on national airwaves Big Dick plucked a Kildare v Limerick fixture from 2012 as example when Kildare wanted the game moved from Newbridge . He couldn't have been further wrong. That was another stunt from Croke Park to get a few extra quid in.
Kildare were also aware of the H&S stipulations in advance of that game. It was flagged early. The KCB were also hammered over having to move that game by Kildare supporters. Once bitten twice shy.
Hold firm. It's a Class Action Suit for all of the Gaa.
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Sold out?
Are they f*ck? Those tickets are selling for Croke Park so it's hardly sold out. Haven't taken money for the season tickets today either.
Right. Sorry. I'm new and this has happened a few times. How do you convey sarcasm on a message board?
No tickets on sale on gaa website for Saturday.
Rumour game will be in Newbridge after all!!!!
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Sold out?
Are they f*ck? Those tickets are selling for Croke Park so it's hardly sold out. Haven't taken money for the season tickets today either.
Right. Sorry. I'm new and this has happened a few times. How do you convey sarcasm on a message board?
Some people use "/s". It's a bit hit or miss alright.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
No tickets on sale on gaa website for Saturday.
Rumour game will be in Newbridge after all!!!!
Or maybe there's going to be no game at all
KFM the bestest radio station in the land reporting game to be fixed in Newbridge either Sat or Sun.
I suspect Sunday.
Hon Kildare!!
Could the face-saving compromise simply be moving it to Sunday to avoid clashing with the Derby, thereby addressing some health & safety 'concerns'?
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:11:15 AM
Could the face-saving compromise simply be moving it to Sunday to avoid clashing with the Derby, thereby addressing some health & safety 'concerns'?
There is racing on Sunday as well!
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 10:50:51 AM
Dick is a GAA/SKY company man.
In the words of placebo "just another nancy boy"
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Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:11:15 AM
Could the face-saving compromise simply be moving it to Sunday to avoid clashing with the Derby, thereby addressing some health & safety 'concerns'?
There is racing on Sunday as well!
Of course there is... ye need to get over this obsession with horses!
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Could the face-saving compromise simply be moving it to Sunday to avoid clashing with the Derby, thereby addressing some health & safety 'concerns'?
There is racing on Sunday as well!
Of course there is... ye need to get over this obsession with horses!
Friday night as well! Horse Racing Ireland have moved all racing to the Curragh and Punchestown.
Saturday at 7pm.
Newbridge
Confirmed
Fair play to the Lily Whites.
All the ex players/pundits who came out in support should hang their head in shame.
Cue Mayo hammering them
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:11:15 AM
Could the face-saving compromise simply be moving it to Sunday to avoid clashing with the Derby, thereby addressing some health & safety 'concerns'?
Health and Safety concerns was a red herring by GAA as Garda said it was manageable but true they could do that as a face saver.
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Quote from: Taylor on June 27, 2018, 11:20:53 AM
Fair play to the Lily Whites.
All the ex players/pundits who came out in support should hang their head in shame.
Cue Mayo hammering them
I predict a refereeing performance on a par with what Mayo got in Limerick. Don't cross the Cosa Nostra.
Newbridge as announced by Sean O'Rouke on RTE Radio.
Common sense prevails.
https://rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0627/973579-kildare-mayo-set-for-newbridge-at-7pm-on-saturday/
Well done Kildare a victory for real Gaa people.
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Newbridge as announced by Sean O'Rouke on RTE Radio.
Common sense prevails.
Great stuff. Of course the rules will be rewritten now, but good to see that a groundswell of support can still sway money decisions.
Well done Kildare but Jesus it was hard work to get to the correct decision!!
Surely Feargal McGill's position is now untenable.
Cross the picket line!
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Well done to Kildare
What is the story with Cavan v Tyrone?? Single match in Croker or is more common sense needed??
bow for all the bitching and moaning about no tickets
This is a great day for the GAA.
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Friday evening:
Any one have a ticket?
Any one a spare ticket?
Anyone selling a ticket?
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John Prenty, Fergal McGill, Nicky Brennan, Rossfan, Ned Quinn, Dick Clerkin... can you hear me Dick Clerkin! Your boys took one hell of a beating!!!!
So who are Meath playing this weekend ;D
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:35:55 AM
John Prenty, Fergal McGill, Nicky Brennan, Rossfan, Ned Quinn, Dick Clerkin... can you hear me Dick Clerkin! Your boys took one hell of a beating!!!!
I cant understand how there hasn't been uproar over those comments from quinn about the fans on the streets of Newbridge.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:35:55 AM
John Prenty, Fergal McGill, Nicky Brennan, Rossfan, Ned Quinn, Dick Clerkin... can you hear me Dick Clerkin! Your boys took one hell of a beating!!!!
You'd have to include Tom Ryan in this.
Was a really big opportunity to show he is a strong leader and he never uttered a word.... I'd be worried about the future if there's someone who buried the head in the sand at the first sign of controversy in charge.
Kildare are gonna get hosed out the gate.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:35:55 AM
John Prenty, Fergal McGill, Nicky Brennan, Rossfan, Ned Quinn, Dick Clerkin... can you hear me Dick Clerkin! Your boys took one hell of a beating!!!!
Yep now all Kildare have to do is beat Mayo
So what are Mayo going to do for midfield? Pull AoS out there?
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It was in the year of eighteen, in the lovely month of Jan
The Lily whites were promoted and the excitement it was grand
But seven games on the trot they were f**king traumatic ,
and relegation when it came sure it was automatic
The championship start was not ideal, Kildare fragile you know
And who came out of the draw itself but WTF Carlow
And Horse Lawlor he did get the ball and had loads of time to choose
And once he set his sights on goal sure the Lilies could only lose
And KCR they lost the plot, sure the Carlow boys went mad
While on KFM across the county the mood was very sad
The rasta midgets had had their day, their victory was tremenjus
But the Flourbags had to lick their wounds and start praying the Angelus.
This was worse than an embarrassment it was biblical in scope
And on the board Kuwabate and Donnellys had surrendered all their hope
O'Neill was f**king hopeless and his tactics were so poor
What was he doing managing the Lilies, the useless clueless hoor
And outsiders they did shake the head and ask all the questions
All that money in Kildare and the team is only messin'
And Newbridge it is still a kip with no corporate suites to offer
And Meath are just as bad and the 2 counties have nothing in the coffer
But life is about soldiering on and the qualifiers offer redemption
Even if the Lilies were only looking at a losing series extension
At least it's not the Leinster championship with the Dubs , that awful load
You can win a few matches with a bit of luck and go further down the road
In Derry the opposition was hard enough to beat
The backs and forwards had to work together in the heat
This was a novelty after all the losing- it was hard to stay on task
But they kept the engine running and that's all anyone could ever ask.
Next up the Larries in their home place- the fans had to shell out
They had beaten Meath you see and were in with a good shout
But the flourbags got the oul mojo going it was a decent oul feeling
An open road and enough horsepower to leave the Larries reeling
So now onto Round 3 and hopefully deeper into July
A draw like Clare at home it would be surely worth a try
A three game winning streak is better than playing cat
And a Saturday evening in the town with pints you could well get used to that
Ah well some of the lads and lassies had never been arsed watching the Lilies at home before.
It would be the first time Geraldine would have seen the forwards score.
And before they heard the draw, they knew they'd play the same
So they all agreed that Newbridge was the place to play the game.
But the hoors above in Dublin they had a fella called McGill
And he f**king ordered the Lilies to play in Dublin
The county it was outraged ONeill would take no crap
And Kildare defied the HQ and all attempts at a bitchslap.
So CP rolled out some big guns and the biggest , Health and Safety
They wanted all the Kildare fans to be drinking in the Big Tree
But Kildare decided otherwise, they had the gander going
And Croke Park ran out of ammunition and the public started groaning
And the Super 8s are the golden goose and the timing is essential
But if Kildare go down the legal route delays will be unmissable
The CLG head are in a bind they don't know what to do
The clock is ticking as we speak this is a huge issue
So Kildare have had a change of fate even if they lose on Sat
Because the energy unleashed you cannot defend against that
And CLG, the useless hoors, they really need some insight
You cannot force the Lilies into something that is shite.
So Horse Lawlor's goal was not the end, it was not the end at all
The Kildare lads got time to fight both on and off the ball
They discovered balls they had all over the county of Kildare
And they united around a great oul line- Newbridge or nowhere
Any music to the great lyrics ?
Kildare's call.
I was thinking of Joxer goes to Stuttgart
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Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:35:55 AM
John Prenty, Fergal McGill, Nicky Brennan, Rossfan, Ned Quinn, Dick Clerkin... can you hear me Dick Clerkin! Your boys took one hell of a beating!!!!
I cant understand how there hasn't been uproar over those comments from quinn about the fans on the streets of Newbridge.
They were appalling comments and an affront to all GAA members.
The lack of comprehension by the hierarchy of how wrong they were and of the zero support for their stance from the members is something that should be very worrying for them.
I wonder how the season tickets will shake out. If the give tickets to all the Gaa & Cairde Mhaigh Eo tickets there will be more Mayo people than Kildare in the ground which would be a bit of a farce!! Should we be even entitled to a 50/50 split? Would a 60/40 split or less not be fair since after all Kildare are the Home team and we are the away team?
Quote from: trailer on June 27, 2018, 08:19:24 AM
Kildare have painted themselves into a corner and cannot back down. What could change things is a player revolt. If they come out and say they'll play in CP. Cian O'Neill would be nothing more than a zombie manager at that stage.
The best result Kildare can hope for is that Mayo are given a walk over. They're a beaten docket regardless if the game goes ahead in Newbridge or not.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0627/973579-kildare-mayo-set-for-newbridge-at-7pm-on-saturday/
Jaysus
For the first 10 minutes or so, this will be some game to be at.
I'm expecting the most obnoxious and outspoken Kildare fans from the nineties & noughties to resurface for this. ;D
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Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:35:55 AM
John Prenty, Fergal McGill, Nicky Brennan, Rossfan, Ned Quinn, Dick Clerkin... can you hear me Dick Clerkin! Your boys took one hell of a beating!!!!
You'd have to include Tom Ryan in this.
Was a really big opportunity to show he is a strong leader and he never uttered a word.... I'd be worried about the future if there's someone who buried the head in the sand at the first sign of controversy in charge.
Perhaps he was the one who maybe with John Horan quietly called people together and reversed the 4 Cs decision?
Quote from: Jayop on June 27, 2018, 11:44:08 AM
So what are Mayo going to do for midfield? Pull AoS out there?
I would say you might see Keegan and D. O'Connor there with AOS dropping in for kickouts form 11
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
So who are Meath playing this weekend ;D
Unusually poor and limp response Rosfan - an opportunity to say nothing missed. You clearly misread the mood on this issue and where right lay. You were with the CP group thinkers who now clearly need a rethink. In fairness to Jinxy he read this well from the start.
So thankfully common sense prevailed. It will be interesting to listen to the GAA's explanation following initial concerns over health and safety and their insistence that 'under no circumstances' would the match be changed.
Meanwhile An Garda Siochana will have their resources stretched to the hilt as they gather up all avalable police horses, baton's, shields, water cannons, tear gas etc in anticipation of the ensuing riot between hordes of disgruntled rival fans on Saturday evening.
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Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:35:55 AM
John Prenty, Fergal McGill, Nicky Brennan, Rossfan, Ned Quinn, Dick Clerkin... can you hear me Dick Clerkin! Your boys took one hell of a beating!!!!
You'd have to include Tom Ryan in this.
Was a really big opportunity to show he is a strong leader and he never uttered a word.... I'd be worried about the future if there's someone who buried the head in the sand at the first sign of controversy in charge.
I dunno.
My gut feeling is that he was the one working away behind the scenes in a more conciliatory way than the firebrands from the CCCC.
Maybe he felt Kildare were in the right?
Then you're pitting the DG against the CCCC and he's completely undermined them in public.
The GAA is a strange beast at official level but I don't think this is a case of Tom Ryan running for cover.
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Quote from: WT4E on June 27, 2018, 11:42:34 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:35:55 AM
John Prenty, Fergal McGill, Nicky Brennan, Rossfan, Ned Quinn, Dick Clerkin... can you hear me Dick Clerkin! Your boys took one hell of a beating!!!!
You'd have to include Tom Ryan in this.
Was a really big opportunity to show he is a strong leader and he never uttered a word.... I'd be worried about the future if there's someone who buried the head in the sand at the first sign of controversy in charge.
Perhaps he was the one who maybe with John Horan quietly called people together and reversed the 4 Cs decision?
Perhaps - But being so early in I'd have been making a statement to say - listen lads i'll sort this/I've sorted this. To show I'm the man in charge and I'll do whats right or if he wanted to be hardline say listen i'm in charge the game will be in croke park.
All we know now is he was silent which suggests he did nothing in most peoples minds I imagine.
Hope there's no animosity as Hq warned between the supporters. You'd be worried a best dressed lady from the races could take off her Phillip Treacy hat and take a swing at a Mayoman and he'll do likewise with his Western People paper hat that up to then has been protecting him from the 30 degree sun all day.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:46:17 AM
For the first 10 minutes or so, this will be some game to be at.
I'm expecting the most obnoxious and outspoken Kildare fans from the nineties & noughties to resurface for this. ;D
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I will be there....
Mayo fans would be well-advised not to start any trouble.
Their infantry is no match for Kildare cavalry.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:57:06 AM
Mayo fans would be well-advised not to start any trouble.
Their infantry is no match for Kildare cavalry.
Ha their cavalry hasn't a hope of stopping the bull unless they throw a few snackboxes at him! ;)
Kildare fans, I am genuinely happy for you. Kildare CB, we will never forget the day you shafted us and sat back as we played Dublin in Nowlan Park. If it was right now, it was right then. A good day for the GAA. Up Laois
When the dust settles on this and people reflect in the cold light of day, I'm sure someone will ask the question 'why, when you look at most other County grounds and the facilities that are available, is Newbridge such a shit hole, why has it been allowed to get into this state, what plans have Kildare got to improve it and where will they go to for the money'
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You're dead right, Moylsie.
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Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:46:17 AM
For the first 10 minutes or so, this will be some game to be at.
I'm expecting the most obnoxious and outspoken Kildare fans from the nineties & noughties to resurface for this. ;D
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I will be there....
Sean Brady is definitely goin in to this. ;D
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If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
No . . . that is all bullshit!
This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #
With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?
Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.
If fans are so important then are Kildare fans not entitled to go to a game in our own county? I've travelled to grounds outside our own county for our last three games. I travelled to Mayo for a third round qualifier two years ago for a 7 o'clock throw in when Mayo were drawn at home. It was outlined before the draw that the first county drawn out were entitled to a home game unless the fixture was Div 1/Div 2 vs Div 3/Div 4. That's not the case here.
Kildare were drawn out first.
The ground can comfortably cater for the numbers of those entitled to a ticket (as it did in the league when the same number of season ticket holders existed).
This game should be in Newbridge.
The GAA thought Kildare would just piss and moan about going to Croke Park but ultimately relent. They were wrong and now they're up shit creek without a paddle.
Well - i live in Newbridge and was going to bring 5 kids to see Kildare play - I might as well go and reserve a table in Con Cummins and watch it there with the kids
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
When the dust settles on this and people reflect in the cold light of day, I'm sure someone will ask the question 'why, when you look at most other County grounds and the facilities that are available, is Newbridge such a shit hole, why has it been allowed to get into this state, what plans have Kildare got to improve it and where will they go to for the money'
The lodged a planning application already according to this, http://kildaregaa.ie/st-conleths-park-re-development-project-kildare-2020-vision/.
Plans for the stadium look good to me.
Will it still be on Sky? I'd say probably not, so people will be pissed off at not being able to see it. Be interesting to see
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Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
No . . . that is all bullshit!
This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #
With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?
Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.
If fans are so important then are Kildare fans not entitled to go to a game in our own county? I've travelled to grounds outside our own county for our last three games. I travelled to Mayo for a third round qualifier two years ago for a 7 o'clock throw in when Mayo were drawn at home. It was outlined before the draw that the first county drawn out were entitled to a home game unless the fixture was Div 1/Div 2 vs Div 3/Div 4. That's not the case here.
Kildare were drawn out first.
The ground can comfortably cater for the numbers of those entitled to a ticket (as it did in the league when the same number of season ticket holders existed).
This game should be in Newbridge.
The GAA thought Kildare would just piss and moan about going to Croke Park but ultimately relent. They were wrong and now they're up shit creek without a paddle.
Well - i live in Newbridge and was going to bring 5 kids to see Kildare play - I might as well go and reserve a table in Con Cummins and watch it there with the kids
Am sure you have had plenty and will have plenty of opportunities to watch them in the future in that case.
Not everyone will get a ticket to every game. Thats the way of the world and not just the GAA
Quote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2018, 12:09:32 PM
Will it still be on Sky? I'd say probably not, so people will be pissed off at not being able to see it. Be interesting to see
I'd imagine it will be on Sky. No bother to them to send 2 OB units. Barring another game is moved into Croker, they have 2 slots to fill so they'll surely toddle down the M7 as well.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
When the dust settles on this and people reflect in the cold light of day, I'm sure someone will ask the question 'why, when you look at most other County grounds and the facilities that are available, is Newbridge such a shit hole, why has it been allowed to get into this state, what plans have Kildare got to improve it and where will they go to for the money'
That is all in place. It's going through the planning stage, back and forth currently between KCB and KCC.
It will be a 12500 capacity when complete. It doesn't need to be any bigger and would comfortable host any Leinster Championship game.
(https://img.resized.co/kildarenow/eyJkYXRhIjoie1widXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczMtZXUtd2VzdC0xLmFtYXpvbmF3cy5jb21cXFwvc3RvcmFnZS5wdWJsaXNoZXJwbHVzLmllXFxcL21lZGlhLnJpdmVybWVkaWEuaWVcXFwvdXBsb2Fkc1xcXC8yMDE2XFxcLzA5XFxcLzIxMTQxOTM0XFxcL1N0LUNvbmxldGhzLVBhcmstcmVkZXZlbG9wbWVudC5qcGdcIixcIndpZHRoXCI6NjQ3LFwiaGVpZ2h0XCI6MzQwLFwiZGVmYXVsdFwiOlwiaHR0cHM6XFxcL1xcXC93d3cua2lsZGFyZW5vdy5jb21cXFwvYXNzZXRzXFxcL2lcXFwvcGxhY2Vob2xkZXIucG5nXCJ9IiwiaGFzaCI6IjUyNTQ4NTY0NjZjNWYyNWZkZDY0ODlkNTJjMDg5ZDk2ZDY5MWZjMDcifQ==/st-conleths-park-redevelopment.jpg)
https://www.kildarenow.com/gaa/kildare-gaa-announce-plans-for-the-redevelopment-of-st-conleths-park-in-newbridge/118357 (https://www.kildarenow.com/gaa/kildare-gaa-announce-plans-for-the-redevelopment-of-st-conleths-park-in-newbridge/118357)
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:46:17 AM
For the first 10 minutes or so, this will be some game to be at.
I'm expecting the most obnoxious and outspoken Kildare fans from the nineties & noughties to resurface for this. ;D
Sean Brady will surely be there.
Quote from: Taylor on June 27, 2018, 12:10:10 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 12:06:42 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 27, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
No . . . that is all bullshit!
This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #
With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?
Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.
If fans are so important then are Kildare fans not entitled to go to a game in our own county? I've travelled to grounds outside our own county for our last three games. I travelled to Mayo for a third round qualifier two years ago for a 7 o'clock throw in when Mayo were drawn at home. It was outlined before the draw that the first county drawn out were entitled to a home game unless the fixture was Div 1/Div 2 vs Div 3/Div 4. That's not the case here.
Kildare were drawn out first.
The ground can comfortably cater for the numbers of those entitled to a ticket (as it did in the league when the same number of season ticket holders existed).
This game should be in Newbridge.
The GAA thought Kildare would just piss and moan about going to Croke Park but ultimately relent. They were wrong and now they're up shit creek without a paddle.
Well - i live in Newbridge and was going to bring 5 kids to see Kildare play - I might as well go and reserve a table in Con Cummins and watch it there with the kids
Am sure you have had plenty and will have plenty of opportunities to watch them in the future in that case.
Not everyone will get a ticket to every game. Thats the way of the world and not just the GAA
Totally Agree. Wouldn't bring a home Premiership match for Arsenal Vs Man United from The Emirates Stadium to Wembley just so a few more thousand people could go.
Brilliant by Kildare, and the sensible decision by the GAA (even though they had no other choice)
Quote from: seafoid on June 27, 2018, 10:16:21 AM
It was in the year of eighteen, in the lovely month of Jan
The Lily whites were promoted and the excitement it was grand
But seven games on the trot they were f**king traumatic ,
and relegation when it came sure it was automatic
The championship start was not ideal, Kildare fragile you know
And who came out of the draw itself but WTF Carlow
And Horse Lawlor he did get the ball and had loads of time to choose
And once he set his sights on goal sure the Lilies could only lose
And KCR they lost the plot, sure the Carlow boys went mad
While on KFM across the county the mood was very sad
The rasta midgets had had their day, their victory was tremenjus
But the Flourbags had to lick their wounds and start praying the Angelus.
This was worse than an embarrassment it was biblical in scope
And on the board Kuwabate and Donnellys had surrendered all their hope
O'Neill was f**king hopeless and his tactics were so poor
What was he doing managing the Lilies, the useless clueless hoor
And outsiders they did shake the head and ask all the questions
All that money in Kildare and the team is only messin'
And Newbridge it is still a kip with no corporate suites to offer
And Meath are just as bad and the 2 counties have nothing in the coffer
But life is about soldiering on and the qualifiers offer redemption
Even if the Lilies were only looking at a losing series extension
At least it's not the Leinster championship with the Dubs , that awful load
You can win a few matches with a bit of luck and go further down the road
In Derry the opposition was hard enough to beat
The backs and forwards had to work together in the heat
This was a novelty after all the losing- it was hard to stay on task
But they kept the engine running and that's all anyone could ever ask.
Next up the Larries in their home place- the fans had to shell out
They had beaten Meath you see and were in with a good shout
But the flourbags got the oul mojo going it was a decent oul feeling
An open road and enough horsepower to leave the Larries reeling
So now onto Round 3 and hopefully deeper into July
A draw like Clare at home it would be surely worth a try
A three game winning streak is better than playing cat
And a Saturday evening in the town with pints you could well get used to that
Ah well some of the lads and lassies had never been arsed watching the Lilies at home before.
It would be the first time Geraldine would have seen the forwards score.
And before they heard the draw, they knew they'd play the same
So they all agreed that Newbridge was the place to play the game.
But the hoors above in Dublin they had a fella called McGill
And he f**king ordered the Lilies to play in Dublin
The county it was outraged ONeill would take no crap
And Kildare defied the HQ and all attempts at a bitchslap.
So CP rolled out some big guns and the biggest , Health and Safety
They wanted all the Kildare fans to be drinking in the Big Tree
But Kildare decided otherwise, they had the gander going
And Croke Park ran out of ammunition and the public started groaning
And the Super 8s are the golden goose and the timing is essential
But if Kildare go down the legal route delays will be unmissable
The CLG head are in a bind they don't know what to do
The clock is ticking as we speak this is a huge issue
So Kildare have had a change of fate even if they lose on Sat
Because the energy unleashed you cannot defend against that
And CLG, the useless hoors, they really need some insight
You cannot force the Lilies into something that is shite.
So Horse Lawlor's goal was not the end, it was not the end at all
The Kildare lads got time to fight both on and off the ball
They discovered balls they had all over the county of Kildare
And they united around a great oul line- Newbridge or nowhere
Brilliant Seafoid...
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
So what happens to us season ticket holders?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
When the dust settles on this and people reflect in the cold light of day, I'm sure someone will ask the question 'why, when you look at most other County grounds and the facilities that are available, is Newbridge such a shit hole, why has it been allowed to get into this state, what plans have Kildare got to improve it and where will they go to for the money'
That is all in place. It's going through the planning stage, back and forth currently between KCB and KCC.
It will be a 12500 capacity when complete. It doesn't need to be any bigger and would comfortable host any Leinster Championship game.
(https://img.resized.co/kildarenow/eyJkYXRhIjoie1widXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczMtZXUtd2VzdC0xLmFtYXpvbmF3cy5jb21cXFwvc3RvcmFnZS5wdWJsaXNoZXJwbHVzLmllXFxcL21lZGlhLnJpdmVybWVkaWEuaWVcXFwvdXBsb2Fkc1xcXC8yMDE2XFxcLzA5XFxcLzIxMTQxOTM0XFxcL1N0LUNvbmxldGhzLVBhcmstcmVkZXZlbG9wbWVudC5qcGdcIixcIndpZHRoXCI6NjQ3LFwiaGVpZ2h0XCI6MzQwLFwiZGVmYXVsdFwiOlwiaHR0cHM6XFxcL1xcXC93d3cua2lsZGFyZW5vdy5jb21cXFwvYXNzZXRzXFxcL2lcXFwvcGxhY2Vob2xkZXIucG5nXCJ9IiwiaGFzaCI6IjUyNTQ4NTY0NjZjNWYyNWZkZDY0ODlkNTJjMDg5ZDk2ZDY5MWZjMDcifQ==/st-conleths-park-redevelopment.jpg)
https://www.kildarenow.com/gaa/kildare-gaa-announce-plans-for-the-redevelopment-of-st-conleths-park-in-newbridge/118357 (https://www.kildarenow.com/gaa/kildare-gaa-announce-plans-for-the-redevelopment-of-st-conleths-park-in-newbridge/118357)
These plans were announced in 2016 and still nothing has happened. I think you deserve everything you get in fairness and can reflect on it all over the months ahead when you're sent packing this weekend
Regarding ticket sales, the sensible thing would be to shut everything down today and tomorrow in order to deal with refunds (I have my doubts about Cavan/Tyrone staying in CP) and avoid confusion/overlap.
Then put the general tickets on sale on Friday morning.
There's only going to be 3000/4000 of them anyway.
Mind you, the whole system could collapse in a heap.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2018, 12:09:32 PM
Will it still be on Sky? I'd say probably not, so people will be pissed off at not being able to see it. Be interesting to see
I'd imagine it will be on Sky. No bother to them to send 2 OB units. Barring another game is moved into Croker, they have 2 slots to fill so they'll surely toddle down the M7 as well.
I was thinking more of 'teaching us a lesson' rather than logistics tbh.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 12:24:57 PM
Regarding ticket sales, the sensible thing would be to shut everything down today and tomorrow in order to deal with refunds (I have my doubts about Cavan/Tyrone staying in CP) and avoid confusion/overlap.
Then put the general tickets on sale on Friday morning.
There's only going to be 3000/4000 of them anyway.
Mind you, the whole system could collapse in a heap.
Sounds a lot like the Cavan and Tyrone match will be at Brewster!
Quote from: toby47 on June 27, 2018, 12:14:30 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 27, 2018, 12:10:10 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 12:06:42 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 27, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
No . . . that is all bullshit!
This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #
With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?
Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.
If fans are so important then are Kildare fans not entitled to go to a game in our own county? I've travelled to grounds outside our own county for our last three games. I travelled to Mayo for a third round qualifier two years ago for a 7 o'clock throw in when Mayo were drawn at home. It was outlined before the draw that the first county drawn out were entitled to a home game unless the fixture was Div 1/Div 2 vs Div 3/Div 4. That's not the case here.
Kildare were drawn out first.
The ground can comfortably cater for the numbers of those entitled to a ticket (as it did in the league when the same number of season ticket holders existed).
This game should be in Newbridge.
The GAA thought Kildare would just piss and moan about going to Croke Park but ultimately relent. They were wrong and now they're up shit creek without a paddle.
Well - i live in Newbridge and was going to bring 5 kids to see Kildare play - I might as well go and reserve a table in Con Cummins and watch it there with the kids
Am sure you have had plenty and will have plenty of opportunities to watch them in the future in that case.
Not everyone will get a ticket to every game. Thats the way of the world and not just the GAA
Totally Agree. Wouldn't bring a home Premiership match for Arsenal Vs Man United from The Emirates Stadium to Wembley just so a few more thousand people could go.
Brilliant by Kildare, and the sensible decision by the GAA (even though they had no other choice)
The comparison should be between Wimbledon FCs old ground and Wembley
Interesting to see how the ticket allocation goes - Will Mayo's season tickets allocation be fully filled or will it be 3000 on a first come first served basis. Also wait for the reports of those who went to Derry and Longford and who cannot now get tickets but that will be alright since Kildare will be playing a match at home where their fans will be in the minority.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
When the dust settles on this and people reflect in the cold light of day, I'm sure someone will ask the question 'why, when you look at most other County grounds and the facilities that are available, is Newbridge such a shit hole, why has it been allowed to get into this state, what plans have Kildare got to improve it and where will they go to for the money'
That is all in place. It's going through the planning stage, back and forth currently between KCB and KCC.
It will be a 12500 capacity when complete. It doesn't need to be any bigger and would comfortable host any Leinster Championship game.
(https://img.resized.co/kildarenow/eyJkYXRhIjoie1widXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczMtZXUtd2VzdC0xLmFtYXpvbmF3cy5jb21cXFwvc3RvcmFnZS5wdWJsaXNoZXJwbHVzLmllXFxcL21lZGlhLnJpdmVybWVkaWEuaWVcXFwvdXBsb2Fkc1xcXC8yMDE2XFxcLzA5XFxcLzIxMTQxOTM0XFxcL1N0LUNvbmxldGhzLVBhcmstcmVkZXZlbG9wbWVudC5qcGdcIixcIndpZHRoXCI6NjQ3LFwiaGVpZ2h0XCI6MzQwLFwiZGVmYXVsdFwiOlwiaHR0cHM6XFxcL1xcXC93d3cua2lsZGFyZW5vdy5jb21cXFwvYXNzZXRzXFxcL2lcXFwvcGxhY2Vob2xkZXIucG5nXCJ9IiwiaGFzaCI6IjUyNTQ4NTY0NjZjNWYyNWZkZDY0ODlkNTJjMDg5ZDk2ZDY5MWZjMDcifQ==/st-conleths-park-redevelopment.jpg)
https://www.kildarenow.com/gaa/kildare-gaa-announce-plans-for-the-redevelopment-of-st-conleths-park-in-newbridge/118357 (https://www.kildarenow.com/gaa/kildare-gaa-announce-plans-for-the-redevelopment-of-st-conleths-park-in-newbridge/118357)
These plans were announced in 2016 and still nothing has happened. I think you deserve everything you get in fairness and can reflect on it all over the months ahead when you're sent packing this weekend
Thanks Ned.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly attended croke park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out .
well done a stunning victory
Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2018, 12:28:59 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 12:24:57 PM
Regarding ticket sales, the sensible thing would be to shut everything down today and tomorrow in order to deal with refunds (I have my doubts about Cavan/Tyrone staying in CP) and avoid confusion/overlap.
Then put the general tickets on sale on Friday morning.
There's only going to be 3000/4000 of them anyway.
Mind you, the whole system could collapse in a heap.
Sounds a lot like the Cavan and Tyrone match will be at Brewster!
Hopefully.
It would be seriously depressing watching them in Croke Park.
It would be marginally less depressing watching them in Brewster Park.
Will there be resignations at Croke Park over this? They either lied about health and safety or are putting thousands of lives at risk. Neither shows that they are capable of their roles.
On the paid employees in Croke Park, who are they accountable to. Im guessing those on the CCCC are elected and can be replaced or a motion put through to remove them, but what about the others who are paid employees. Who disciplines them when they step out of line? Bringing the GAA into disrupt.
P.S. Well done Kildare, held your nerve well.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on June 27, 2018, 12:34:14 PM
Will there be resignations at Croke Park over this? They either lied about health and safety or are putting thousands of lives at risk. Neither shows that they are capable of their roles.
On the paid employees in Croke Park, who are they accountable to. Im guessing those on the CCCC are elected and can be replaced or a motion out through to remove them, but what the others who are paid employees. Who disciplines them when they step out of line? Bringing the GAA into disrupt.
P.S. Well done Kildare, held your nerve well.
No they're all appointed by the President.
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly attended croke park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out .
well done a stunning victory
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Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly attended croke park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out .
well done a stunning victory
Like who? Being anti-GAA and anti-Croke Park hierarchy are two very different things.
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly attended croke park a well filled Brewster park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out .
well done a stunning victory
If they cant fill Newbridge they have no errand bringing it to Croke park.
Really looking forward to seeing this game now. I think it will be close and as I said earlier, it might spice up a championship which has been relatively tepid to this point. Thank god the GAA did the right thing and gave the public what they wanted. Hopefully they will think twice before making ad hoc decisions and issuing ultimatums.
Hopefully lesson learned, it's not nothing it's NEWBRIDGE....
Quote from: Owenmoresider on June 27, 2018, 12:35:48 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on June 27, 2018, 12:34:14 PM
Will there be resignations at Croke Park over this? They either lied about health and safety or are putting thousands of lives at risk. Neither shows that they are capable of their roles.
On the paid employees in Croke Park, who are they accountable to. Im guessing those on the CCCC are elected and can be replaced or a motion out through to remove them, but what the others who are paid employees. Who disciplines them when they step out of line? Bringing the GAA into disrupt.
P.S. Well done Kildare, held your nerve well.
No they're all appointed by the President.
Thanks Owenmoresider, wasn't sure. Clearly members on CCCC stepped out of line. Be interesting to see what the president does or doesn't do.
Well done Kildare. Hopefully Mayo will win now. This has bound to unite all Kildare people and players alike. Very, very difficult for us now considering the injuries.
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly attended croke park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out .
well done a stunning victory
Dinny will get you a ticket for the Ireland New Zealand game in November to make up for this and then you can meet up with all your old tea drinking protestant team mates from your Ballina RFC days! ;D
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 12:40:40 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly attended croke park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out .
well done a stunning victory
Dinny will get you a ticket for the Ireland New Zealand game in November to make up for this and then you can meet up with all your old tea drinking protestant team mates from your Ballina RFC days! ;D
;D
Just has to ask, I would never take opinions on this personally.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 27, 2018, 12:40:34 PM
Well done Kildare. Hopefully Mayo will win now. This has bound to unite all Kildare people and players alike. Very, very difficult for us now considering the injuries.
We are getting down to the bare bones at this stage and Kildare could have that spark that they have been missing for the last couple of years after the GAA backing down.
A win for Kildare could be the start of a great journey for them whereas if we manage a win it feels like we are postponing the inevitable just for another week!
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
No Kildare drawn out first decided.
Who will likely be the inside two or three in the fullforward line for Kildare the next day? Will Niall Kelly be on the 40 for Kildare as he destroyed us in a league game from CHF in 2013.
He will now.
Well done Kildare.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 27, 2018, 12:40:34 PM
Well done Kildare. Hopefully Mayo will win now. This has bound to unite all Kildare people and players alike. Very, very difficult for us now considering the injuries.
Mayo are a far better team than Kildare and should win this without too much trouble.
Kildare are under pressure to perform now after all of this.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 12:58:17 PM
Who will likely be the inside two or three in the fullforward line for Kildare the next day? Will Niall Kelly be on the 40 for Kildare as he destroyed us in a league game from CHF in 2013.
Niall is not playing well and if Kevin Feeley is fit to start Niall could be under pressure. Kildare will play Neil Flynn, horrid 18 months with injury but returning to his best, 12 points in 1 1/2 games and Dan Flynn inside. Paddy Brophy also looked better than has since his return from Oz, he will be allowed to roam I suspect. Paul Cribben and Fergal Conway will be in the half-forward line. Kelly might get the nod ahead of Keith Cribben who was very poor against Longford but he is an O'Neill favourite.
Who will pick up Dan Flynn, he wasn't at his best Saturday still scored 0-1, won a few frees and should have had a couple more, big man syndrome with refs and also set up the goal.
Good men, Kildare.
Congrats to Kildare got their home game like they deserve to and didn't allow GAA HQ money men dictate things.
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
Kildare in their right mind chose Newbridge.
Mayo were hoping they had a bye and a rest/ looks like they could have a bye bye now, ;D ::)
Quote from: galwayman on June 27, 2018, 01:06:28 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 27, 2018, 12:40:34 PM
Well done Kildare. Hopefully Mayo will win now. This has bound to unite all Kildare people and players alike. Very, very difficult for us now considering the injuries.
Mayo are a far better team than Kildare and should win this without too much trouble.
Kildare are under pressure to perform now after all of this.
But it's Mayo in the qualifiers so I'd be suprised if it's straightforward. Plus I'm not sure Kildare are
that bad a side. Had a poor 12 months definitely but like Donegal they were a bit unlucky to lose a few of their league games. They are at home. If the whole week wasn't a massive distraction to them I'd be surprised if the game isn't fairly tight. Depends if they can dominate midfield in the absence of Parsons and S O'Shea.
Congratulations to Kildare.
Cavan will play when and wherever the CCCC tells them, shame!
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 27, 2018, 01:18:40 PM
Mayo were hoping they had a bye and a rest/ looke like they could have a bye bye now, ;D ::)
Ah now as sure as night follows day, Mayo will win and then draw Ros, big day out for us all in Croke Park, and GAA to make up for lost revenues.
Cavan actually did Kildare a favour by rolling over for the CCCC.
If Cavan stick with their original choice and play in Brewster Park, then more than likely Kildare would have been sent to Tullamore or Portlaoise.
The optics would have been very different and, in my opinion, there wouldn't have been anything like the same level of public support.
The Battle of Newbridge it was always going to be a tough match for either team,I think it will galvanise kildare, with the off field shenanigans they have the moral victory,definitely give them the motivation for the on field victory as well.will they be good enough?on the carlow showing it will be a cakewalk for mayo but I have a sneaky feeling the week turnaround,
age profile,injurys and the weather will have a big impact on mayo.
On that basis in my face the ball prediction I am going for a kildare 2pts win.
Seems there's concert activity in Croker next week ( now you see why they were going for a double header this week) so we'd likely be off to Páirc na Gaoithe if Mayowestros v rest of Ros fixture comes to pass.
lol @ gaa
SKY said they would show these games wherever they were played.......hopefully they do as the start (at least) of this game will be very interesting......
Overall this is the week that the championship came to life without a ball being kicked.........not a PR disaster at all!
If Mayo are playing Ros its a home game for Rossies, last time we played in the qualifiers the counties tossed for home advantage with the agreement the loser of the toss would have home advantage, its 15 or 16 years ago but it will be the Hyde or another war. ;)
I remember that now you mention it.
Has anyone got it on paper I wonder or is the shredder going goodo in Bekan?
After season ticket holders, sponsors and teams only 1500 tickets each for Mayo and Kildare to distribute.
Kildare will be outnumbered. f**k it, fair price.
http://www.gaa.ie/football/news/kildare-v-mayo-round-3-sfc-qualifier-to-take-place-in-newbridge/
The GAA statement would annoy you a bit. They've clawed back a bit of respect by doing the right thing, why could they not say 'We apologise for the situation this week. We genuinely misread the situation and had hoped to have a big occasion in Croke Park. We accept that the rules of the competition allow Kildare to have a home game at this stage, and we will endeavour to consult with the relevant counties in the future when considering making such fixture decisions'.
Now it looks like they are scrabbling for some sort of face saving exercise, all they need to do is accept they made a mistake and move on.
Was never going to happen AZ.
My feeling is that the DG and President probably went against the CCCC on this.
If you apologise, then someone has to own the mistake.
I'd imagine when the fuss dies down we'll find out what really happened and there will be a 'lessons have been learned' type statement from the DG, probably as part of a broader print-media piece.
This was a tricky one for Ryan, he's only settling in to his new office and this lands on his lap.
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here as we've ended up with the right outcome, despite some extremely belligerent language from the CCCC over the last couple of days.
Now that we have the match venue sorted, who's gonna foot the bill for the riot police in Newbridge, Croke PArk or Kildare CB?? :)
I cant wait to see the thread about the fecking GAA and how you cant get tickets and Biddy that never goes to a game has one and poor auld Mickey that hasnt missed a game since 1798 cant get a feckin ticket.
Give the army a run out.
They're only down the road and they've nothin else to do anyway.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 12:58:17 PM
Who will likely be the inside two or three in the fullforward line for Kildare the next day? Will Niall Kelly be on the 40 for Kildare as he destroyed us in a league game from CHF in 2013.
Niall is not playing well and if Kevin Feeley is fit to start Niall could be under pressure. Kildare will play Neil Flynn, horrid 18 months with injury but returning to his best, 12 points in 1 1/2 games and Dan Flynn inside. Paddy Brophy also looked better than has since his return from Oz, he will be allowed to roam I suspect. Paul Cribben and Fergal Conway will be in the half-forward line. Kelly might get the nod ahead of Keith Cribben who was very poor against Longford but he is an O'Neill favourite.
Who will pick up Dan Flynn, he wasn't at his best Saturday still scored 0-1, won a few frees and should have had a couple more, big man syndrome with refs and also set up the goal.
Good question Dinny, the last day out Ger Caff marked Sweeney and Paddy Durcan marked Quinlivan.Caff did well on Sweeney but Paddy Durcan struggled badly on Quinlivan in the first half and did much better in the second. Keegan would normally be considered for a job back there but he will be needed in midfield. Harrision is only just back in full training so I doubt he well be ready for a starting berth on Sat. I think it will be more of a case of stopping the ball coming in at source as we probably don't have anybody to shut down the two Flynns if good ball is coming in!
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 02:03:06 PM
Give the army a run out.
They're only down the road and they've nothin else to do anyway.
Are they any good at gaelic football, though?
Well not a total disaster. Some tickets went online and I was able to get 4. They're now sold out
Common sense prevailed in the end but unfortunately for Kildare they didn't need all this drama over a venue that should have been set for Newbridge on Monday morning. A few at the top should be forced to step down over this now.
All Bring a Friend purchases will be cancelled and refunded in full.
Any tickets issued for Croke Park on June 30th will not be valid for St Conleth's Park on Saturday June 30th.
There is no Bring a Friend option for St Conleth's Park.
E-tickets will not be accepted St Conleth's Park.
Once payments have been processed you will simply be required to present your GAA Season Ticket card at the designated turnstiles on the day. Unreserved seating will be in operation.
Looks like season ticket holders from Mayo are getting in anyway
Quote from: weareros on June 27, 2018, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 27, 2018, 01:18:40 PM
Mayo were hoping they had a bye and a rest/ looke like they could have a bye bye now, ;D ::)
Ah now as sure as night follows day, Mayo will win and then draw Ros, big day out for us all in Croke Park, and GAA to make up for lost revenues.
Mayo will get their walkover afterall ;D
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 12:58:17 PM
Who will likely be the inside two or three in the fullforward line for Kildare the next day? Will Niall Kelly be on the 40 for Kildare as he destroyed us in a league game from CHF in 2013.
Niall is not playing well and if Kevin Feeley is fit to start Niall could be under pressure. Kildare will play Neil Flynn, horrid 18 months with injury but returning to his best, 12 points in 1 1/2 games and Dan Flynn inside. Paddy Brophy also looked better than has since his return from Oz, he will be allowed to roam I suspect. Paul Cribben and Fergal Conway will be in the half-forward line. Kelly might get the nod ahead of Keith Cribben who was very poor against Longford but he is an O'Neill favourite.
Who will pick up Dan Flynn, he wasn't at his best Saturday still scored 0-1, won a few frees and should have had a couple more, big man syndrome with refs and also set up the goal.
Good question Dinny, the last day out Ger Caff marked Sweeney and Paddy Durcan marked Quinlivan.Caff did well on Sweeney but Paddy Durcan struggled badly on Quinlivan in the first half and did much better in the second. Keegan would normally be considered for a job back there but he will be needed in midfield. Harrision is only just back in full training so I doubt he well be ready for a starting berth on Sat. I think it will be more of a case of stopping the ball coming in at source as we probably don't have anybody to shut down the two Flynns if good ball is coming in!
Arah will ye go away with your football talk, who wants to listen to that shite!
Quote from: Tubberman on June 27, 2018, 02:24:28 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 12:58:17 PM
Who will likely be the inside two or three in the fullforward line for Kildare the next day? Will Niall Kelly be on the 40 for Kildare as he destroyed us in a league game from CHF in 2013.
Niall is not playing well and if Kevin Feeley is fit to start Niall could be under pressure. Kildare will play Neil Flynn, horrid 18 months with injury but returning to his best, 12 points in 1 1/2 games and Dan Flynn inside. Paddy Brophy also looked better than has since his return from Oz, he will be allowed to roam I suspect. Paul Cribben and Fergal Conway will be in the half-forward line. Kelly might get the nod ahead of Keith Cribben who was very poor against Longford but he is an O'Neill favourite.
Who will pick up Dan Flynn, he wasn't at his best Saturday still scored 0-1, won a few frees and should have had a couple more, big man syndrome with refs and also set up the goal.
Good question Dinny, the last day out Ger Caff marked Sweeney and Paddy Durcan marked Quinlivan.Caff did well on Sweeney but Paddy Durcan struggled badly on Quinlivan in the first half and did much better in the second. Keegan would normally be considered for a job back there but he will be needed in midfield. Harrision is only just back in full training so I doubt he well be ready for a starting berth on Sat. I think it will be more of a case of stopping the ball coming in at source as we probably don't have anybody to shut down the two Flynns if good ball is coming in!
Arah will ye go away with your football talk, who wants to listen to that shite!
Fair enough so my mistake!! ;D Which county board and/or media company are we at war with now just so I can get back in the swing of things?
It may be a sweeping generalisation, but looking at some of the online reaction, if there is an imbalance in terms of people being annoyed that the game is now in Newbridge, it is among the 'casual' fans.
What I mean by that is the people who go to watch county games in the summer when the team is doing well, but otherwise don't seem to have much to do with the GAA year round in terms of playing, volunteering etc.
Also, the majority of people slagging Kildare for not having a better stadium seem to fall into this bracket.
I don't particularly like categorising people, but there is an acceptance among the vast majority of genuine GAA people (from Mayo & elsewhere), as opposed to 'fans', that this was the only right & proper outcome.
Maybe the association needs to worry more about accommodating the genuine GAA people, and less about accommodating the casual fans.
Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 02:03:06 PM
Give the army a run out.
They're only down the road and they've nothin else to do anyway.
Are they any good at gaelic football, though?
Probably not as strong as when Kevin McStay and Jim Gavin were their wing forwards.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
People who give a sh*t about the wider implications of the decisions made by HQ and how they affect all of us.
http://www.hotpress.com/GAA/Why-Kildare-Have-Done-the-Whole-GAA-a-Massive-Service/22642624.html (http://www.hotpress.com/GAA/Why-Kildare-Have-Done-the-Whole-GAA-a-Massive-Service/22642624.html)
Why Kildare Have Done the Whole GAA a Massive Service
With the Kildare-Mayo game finally being fixed for Newbridge, Hot Press contributing editor – and lifelong Kildare fan – Paul Nolan outlines why this is about more than just a single game.
Throughout this decade, I and other Kildare fans have watched as a succession of decisions regarding fixtures, financing and other issues have gone against us.
Our neighbours and historic rivals Dublin have become a runaway train and we have been all-too accomodating when it has come to giving up home league fixtures against them – as well as happily complying with their more-or-less permanent residence in Croke Park during the Leinster championship. It was a sickly relationship that had become symbolic of our – and other counties' – meek towing of the GAA establishment line.
Well, the Mayo game was when we shouted stop. The shocking arrogance the GAA showed before, during and after this sorry debacle has revealed the extent to which commercialism and elitism rules the roost in GAA HQ. A succession of prominent figures in the association – ex-presidents Sean Kelly and Nicky Brennan among them – have completely misjudged the intensity of feeling around this issue.
Unfortunately, it's not an attitude that is confined to GAA officialdom either. On the very day the match was moved to Newbridge, the Irish Times published an article, headlined 'GAA Correct Not To Respond To Kildare Ultimatum', which backed the GAA establishment to the hilt.
Despite all this, the resolve of the Kildare team, management, county board and supporters ultimately prevailed.
The likelihood is that this is a moment which will lead to more counties taking a stand against commercial-led decisions which are blatantly unjust.
I have been following this group of Kildare players since they were minors in 2010, when a thrilling double victory over Dublin heralded the arrival of hugely gifted players like Kevin Feely and Niall Kelly. I have enjoyed some thrilling moments following them since, including an U21 Leinster title, promotion to Div 1 and a journey to last year's Leinster final.
A shot at one of the finest GAA teams of the 21st century is another important moment in their development. It is only right that it is played in their home ground – and my home town.
Newbridge Or Nowhere. Cill Dara Abu.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 02:32:28 PM
It may be a sweeping generalisation, but looking at some of the online reaction, if there is an imbalance in terms of people being annoyed that the game is now in Newbridge, it is among the 'casual' fans.
What I mean by that is the people who go to watch county games in the summer when the team is doing well, but otherwise don't seem to have much to do with the GAA year round in terms of playing, volunteering etc.
Also, the majority of people slagging Kildare for not having a better stadium seem to fall into this bracket.
I don't particularly like categorising people, but there is an acceptance among the vast majority of genuine GAA people (from Mayo & elsewhere), as opposed to 'fans', that this was the only right & proper outcome.
Maybe the association needs to worry more about accommodating the genuine GAA people, and less about accommodating the casual fans.
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Preach it.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
People who give a sh*t about the wider implications of the decisions made by HQ and how they affect all of us.
You can be a "Genuine" GAA person and disagree about how Kildare handled this. What Croke Park did was not without precedent since they already moved Wicklow's home game this year. I would have thought that moving the game to a venue which could cater for the expected attendance made perfect sense - be it Portlaoise or Croke park. Kildare stood up to "Big Bad Croke Park" - no - they held Croke Park to ransom by threatening to not field. Maybe Kildare will now refuse access to SKY cameras because that's what the "genuine" GAA person wants.
Hopefully Donegal kick up a fuss about Dublin having two home games in the super 8s
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
People who give a sh*t about the wider implications of the decisions made by HQ and how they affect all of us.
You can be a "Genuine" GAA person and disagree about how Kildare handled this. What Croke Park did was not without precedent since they already moved Wicklow's home game this year. I would have thought that moving the game to a venue which could cater for the expected attendance made perfect sense - be it Portlaoise or Croke park. Kildare stood up to "Big Bad Croke Park" - no - they held Croke Park to ransom by threatening to not field. Maybe Kildare will now refuse access to SKY cameras because that's what the "genuine" GAA person wants.
It's not all about you.
That Wicklow Dublin game was fixed by the Leinster Council who I would expect are all "genuine GAA people".
Look, your side lost today.
As the Americans would say, "Take the L" and move on.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:13:04 PM
Look, your side lost today.
As the Americans would say, "Take the L" and move on.
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Don't know where you get that silly idea that they're "my side".
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 03:11:42 PM
That Wicklow Dublin game was fixed by the Leinster Council who I would expect are all "genuine GAA people".
No, they are not. They are self serving. Provincial councils are a dinosaur, and utterly pointless in this age. The type of individual who gets involved at this level is the individual their own clubs wouldn't let run a bake sale. The best run arms of the organisation are clubs, and there is a reason for that. Genuine GAA people putting in hard work for the love of it, and nothing else.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 03:15:24 PM
Don't know where you get that silly idea that they're "my side".
Ballaghadereen... we know you're really a Mayo man deep down
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
People who give a sh*t about the wider implications of the decisions made by HQ and how they affect all of us.
You can be a "Genuine" GAA person and disagree about how Kildare handled this. What Croke Park did was not without precedent since they already moved Wicklow's home game this year. I would have thought that moving the game to a venue which could cater for the expected attendance made perfect sense - be it Portlaoise or Croke park. Kildare stood up to "Big Bad Croke Park" - no - they held Croke Park to ransom by threatening to not field. Maybe Kildare will now refuse access to SKY cameras because that's what the "genuine" GAA person wants.
It's not all about you.
Christ Jinxy - I thought you were better than that
Quote from: Under Lights on June 27, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Hopefully Donegal kick up a fuss about Dublin having two home games in the super 8s
I agree with that. I don't know why it hasn't been addressed already
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
People who give a sh*t about the wider implications of the decisions made by HQ and how they affect all of us.
You can be a "Genuine" GAA person and disagree about how Kildare handled this. What Croke Park did was not without precedent since they already moved Wicklow's home game this year. I would have thought that moving the game to a venue which could cater for the expected attendance made perfect sense - be it Portlaoise or Croke park. Kildare stood up to "Big Bad Croke Park" - no - they held Croke Park to ransom by threatening to not field. Maybe Kildare will now refuse access to SKY cameras because that's what the "genuine" GAA person wants.
It's not all about you.
Christ Jinxy - I thought you were better than that
Your one and only concern in all of this was your ability to bring a few kids to the game.
Can you genuinely not see that this a much bigger issue than that?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 03:15:24 PM
Don't know where you get that silly idea that they're "my side".
Ballaghadereen... we know you're really a Mayo man deep down
Not from Ballagh :D
The heat must be affecting Jinx today - he's normally a good humoured oul buck.
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
People who give a sh*t about the wider implications of the decisions made by HQ and how they affect all of us.
You can be a "Genuine" GAA person and disagree about how Kildare handled this. What Croke Park did was not without precedent since they already moved Wicklow's home game this year. I would have thought that moving the game to a venue which could cater for the expected attendance made perfect sense - be it Portlaoise or Croke park. Kildare stood up to "Big Bad Croke Park" - no - they held Croke Park to ransom by threatening to not field. Maybe Kildare will now refuse access to SKY cameras because that's what the "genuine" GAA person wants.
Not accurate. That game was moved as they were able to move it. They had no grounds (pardon the pun) to move this and moving it contravened their own rules (different rules that those that were applicable to the wicklow game). They decided to bulldoze ahead regardless and ended up causing this debacle. Kildare didn't hold anyone to ransom. If anything they held the GAA accountable to their own rules. The fact that it is now changed back proves this beyond any doubt. If the GAA had been in the right so to speak there is no way they would have reversed the decision.
Quote from: Under Lights on June 27, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Hopefully Donegal kick up a fuss about Dublin having two home games in the super 8s
http://www.the42.ie/mcguinness-mcbrearty-injury-4093945-Jun2018/
They're way ahead of you. Not surprising really - calling Croke Park a neutral venue for a Dublin game against Donegal is a real abuse of the English language.
Surprised Kevin hasn't come out and said anything on Roscommon's behalf.
McCarthy for Cork is probably afraid to even mention anything to the press about the Super 8 for fear they start laughing uncontrollably.
Don't be shocked if some of the other managers of the teams in the qualifiers say something about this before long, especially if they end up in Dublin's group.
The easier Dublin's route out of the group, the harder it makes things for the other 3 in that group to progress out of the group.
There must be something in the water in Roscommon.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:24:12 PM
There must be something in the water in Roscommon.
Oh there is.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptosporidium
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
People who give a sh*t about the wider implications of the decisions made by HQ and how they affect all of us.
You can be a "Genuine" GAA person and disagree about how Kildare handled this. What Croke Park did was not without precedent since they already moved Wicklow's home game this year. I would have thought that moving the game to a venue which could cater for the expected attendance made perfect sense - be it Portlaoise or Croke park. Kildare stood up to "Big Bad Croke Park" - no - they held Croke Park to ransom by threatening to not field. Maybe Kildare will now refuse access to SKY cameras because that's what the "genuine" GAA person wants.
You're coming at this from a selfish pov (which is 100% your right)...you thought yourself and some family would miss out, so CP would have suited better, hence your standing. Kildare did the right thing here, the vast vast majority of people involved in the GAA through club / County activities were behind them.
Kildare have held no one to ransom. They followed the rules, then correct procedure in informing CP 48 hrs prior to throwin that would not be fulfilling the fixture in CP.. These are the rules penned by CP, not Kildare. Kildare
Funny you mention Sky too. Again, those who already had a Sky subscription were happy the GAA sold its soul to Murdoch, as they were OK and jack those who don't have Sky. At this stage, the way Kildare united to face down this decision, the wider GAA community should have done the same with Sky (I know some CBs did follow correct procedure, but not enough, should have been a United front). The disconnect between the offices at CP and grass routes is huge and needs tightened a bit. Has the director general uttered a word about the Newbridge fiasco?? Head in the sand stuff
Quote from: Owenmoresider on June 27, 2018, 10:20:44 AM
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Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!
In case you missed it I'll remind you that there is no entitlement to getting a ticket for a match and just because Mayo have lots of fans doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Furthermore even if you have a season ticket it STILL doesn't automatically entitle you to a ticket. Here is section 42 of the current season ticket Ts&Cs
"In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture"
Capacity in Newbridge is a red herring.
Its not a red herring it is relevant and fans put money into the GAA. What always strikes me about us in the GAA we always gice off, about the CB, Croke Park, the GPA etc... but it is a democratic organisation, it can be changed by a majority vote. You just have to want the change enough to persuade the CB, PC and Congress.
You actually believe that? The rejection of the transparency regarding votes at Congress blew that out of the water. So many hurdles to jump and then at the end HQ only need to manipulate 150 or so delegates, a mixture of the ambitious, the easily led and those who just want to keep their cosy existence intact and will do the powers-that-be's bidding.
I didn't say it was an easy process, but you can change things with support.
I would expect that one of two things will now happen, either congress will change the rules to empower the CCC to choose all venues in the AI series or a minimum spec for grounds to host qualifiers will be introduced.
Kildare were probably told they'd get their wish to keep the game in Newbridge as long they agreed to move their super 8 game should they get their.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 03:45:04 PM
Kildare were probably told they'd get their wish to keep the game in Newbridge as long they agreed to move their super 8 game should they get their.
It's already in the set rules that the cccc will deem if a home venue is capable of hosting a super 8 game no such rule in place however for a round 3 game.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 27, 2018, 03:37:37 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
People who give a sh*t about the wider implications of the decisions made by HQ and how they affect all of us.
You can be a "Genuine" GAA person and disagree about how Kildare handled this. What Croke Park did was not without precedent since they already moved Wicklow's home game this year. I would have thought that moving the game to a venue which could cater for the expected attendance made perfect sense - be it Portlaoise or Croke park. Kildare stood up to "Big Bad Croke Park" - no - they held Croke Park to ransom by threatening to not field. Maybe Kildare will now refuse access to SKY cameras because that's what the "genuine" GAA person wants.
You're coming at this from a selfish pov (which is 100% your right)...you thought yourself and some family would miss out, so CP would have suited better, hence your standing. Kildare did the right thing here, the vast vast majority of people involved in the GAA through club / County activities were behind them.
Kildare have held no one to ransom. They followed the rules, then correct procedure in informing CP 48 hrs prior to throwin that would not be fulfilling the fixture in CP.. These are the rules penned by CP, not Kildare. Kildare
Funny you mention Sky too. Again, those who already had a Sky subscription were happy the GAA sold its soul to Murdoch, as they were OK and jack those who don't have Sky. At this stage, the way Kildare united to face down this decision, the wider GAA community should have done the same with Sky (I know some CBs did follow correct procedure, but not enough, should have been a United front). The disconnect between the offices at CP and grass routes is huge and needs tightened a bit. Has the director general uttered a word about the Newbridge fiasco?? Head in the sand stuff
Fair enough - in reflection you're probably right about where my motivation was coming from. It'll be interesting to see if any new by-laws come in stating that the CCCC will make the final decisions on inter-county fixtures and whether any of the counties kick up a fuss about it.
Sorry to interrupt the real discussion with some football talk but what team would people like to see put out? Assuming the players expected back are fit I'd go
Clarke
Barrett
Harrison
O'Donoghue
Keegan
Higgins
Durcan
Vaughan
O'Connor
McLoughlin
O'Shea
Durcan
Doherty
O'Connor
Loftus
****
Hennelly
Crowe
Cafferkey
Boyle
Coen
Kirby
Hanley
Regan
Nally
Douglas
Moran
Have you Moran on the bench to save his energy for the business end of the game?
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
Have you Moran on the bench to save his energy for the business end of the game?
Ya, he hasn't seen a lot of it during the last couple of games, no harm to give Loftus a run and bring Moran on later on
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
Sorry to interrupt the real discussion with some football talk but what team would people like to see put out? Assuming the players expected back are fit I'd go
Clarke
Barrett
Harrison
O'Donoghue
Keegan
Higgins
Durcan
Vaughan
O'Connor
McLoughlin
O'Shea
Durcan
Doherty
O'Connor
Loftus
****
Hennelly
Crowe
Cafferkey
Boyle
Coen
Kirby
Hanley
Regan
Nally
Douglas
Moran
Two players to start that weren't on the bench last Saturday and two of Mayos best and most experienced players dropped. Are you having a laugh?
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2018, 03:51:05 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 03:45:04 PM
Kildare were probably told they'd get their wish to keep the game in Newbridge as long they agreed to move their super 8 game should they get their.
It's already in the set rules that the cccc will deem if a home venue is capable of hosting a super 8 game no such rule in place however for a round 3 game.
exactly - all that is needed here is a tiny tweak and the stable door is closed.
I always thought Diarmuid O'Connor was a good midfield option (on paper).
Will be interesting to see how he goes.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
Sorry to interrupt the real discussion with some football talk but what team would people like to see put out? Assuming the players expected back are fit I'd go
Clarke
Barrett
Harrison
O'Donoghue
Keegan
Higgins
Durcan
Vaughan
O'Connor
McLoughlin
O'Shea
Durcan
Doherty
O'Connor
Loftus
****
Hennelly
Crowe
Cafferkey
Boyle
Coen
Kirby
Hanley
Regan
Nally
Douglas
Moran
Two players to start that weren't on the bench last Saturday and two of Mayos best and most experienced players dropped. Are you having a laugh?
Admittedly I'm only going by the highlights but Boyle looked bushed any time I saw him chasing back against Tipp.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
Have you Moran on the bench to save his energy for the business end of the game?
Would love to be able to do that but we need Andy from the start. The team is in survival mode at the moment any heavy hitters left standing have to start to even make the next round as was the case against Tipp last time out.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
Sorry to interrupt the real discussion with some football talk but what team would people like to see put out? Assuming the players expected back are fit I'd go
Clarke
Barrett
Harrison
O'Donoghue
Keegan
Higgins
Durcan
Vaughan
O'Connor
McLoughlin
O'Shea
Durcan
Doherty
O'Connor
Loftus
****
Hennelly
Crowe
Cafferkey
Boyle
Coen
Kirby
Hanley
Regan
Nally
Douglas
Moran
Two players to start that weren't on the bench last Saturday and two of Mayos best and most experienced players dropped. Are you having a laugh?
They were injured...
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
Sorry to interrupt the real discussion with some football talk but what team would people like to see put out? Assuming the players expected back are fit I'd go
Clarke
Barrett
Harrison
O'Donoghue
Keegan
Higgins
Durcan
Vaughan
O'Connor
McLoughlin
O'Shea
Durcan
Doherty
O'Connor
Loftus
****
Hennelly
Crowe
Cafferkey
Boyle
Coen
Kirby
Hanley
Regan
Nally
Douglas
Moran
Two players to start that weren't on the bench last Saturday and two of Mayos best and most experienced players dropped. Are you having a laugh?
Admittedly I'm only going by the highlights but Boyle looked bushed any time I saw him chasing back against Tipp.
Was at the game, he was absolutely knackered and didn't play very well
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
Have you Moran on the bench to save his energy for the business end of the game?
Would love to be able to do that but we need Andy from the start. The team is in survival mode at the moment any heavy hitters left standing have to start to even make the next round as was the case against Tipp last time out.
It's also important to note we're hoping to have a lot of games in a relatively short space and Moran's no spring chicken
https://twitter.com/TConlonthecouch/status/1011961950316658688 (https://twitter.com/TConlonthecouch/status/1011961950316658688)
https://twitter.com/KieranShannon7/status/1011921968281595905 (https://twitter.com/KieranShannon7/status/1011921968281595905)
https://twitter.com/HeaneyPaddy/status/1011910747734110208 (https://twitter.com/HeaneyPaddy/status/1011910747734110208)
???
The use of terms like 'fake news', 'hysteria' and 'sock-it-to-the-man populists' is completely inappropriate in this context.
There's a pretty arrogant streak running through a few of these guys.
Disappointing from Kieran Shannon, he referenced the Limerick game and Kildare were happy to move.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgtIdzNW0AARH_w.jpg)
Really Kieran?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 04:24:26 PM
Disappointing from Kieran Shannon, he referenced the Limerick game and Kildare were happy to move.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgtIdzNW0AARH_w.jpg)
Really Kieran?
When was the last time you played a 'home' qualifier away from Newbridge?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
Have you Moran on the bench to save his energy for the business end of the game?
Would love to be able to do that but we need Andy from the start. The team is in survival mode at the moment any heavy hitters left standing have to start to even make the next round as was the case against Tipp last time out.
It's also important to note we're hoping to have a lot of games in a relatively short space and Moran's no spring chicken
No point in resting Moran if we are dumped out on Sat evening. That is the way it is with the qualifiers, it's do or die.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
Have you Moran on the bench to save his energy for the business end of the game?
Would love to be able to do that but we need Andy from the start. The team is in survival mode at the moment any heavy hitters left standing have to start to even make the next round as was the case against Tipp last time out.
It's also important to note we're hoping to have a lot of games in a relatively short space and Moran's no spring chicken
No point in resting Moran if we are dumped out on Sat evening. That is the way it is with the qualifiers, it's do or die.
He was v quiet against Tipp
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
https://twitter.com/TConlonthecouch/status/1011961950316658688 (https://twitter.com/TConlonthecouch/status/1011961950316658688)
https://twitter.com/KieranShannon7/status/1011921968281595905 (https://twitter.com/KieranShannon7/status/1011921968281595905)
https://twitter.com/HeaneyPaddy/status/1011910747734110208 (https://twitter.com/HeaneyPaddy/status/1011910747734110208)
???
The use of terms like 'fake news', 'hysteria' and 'sock-it-to-the-man populists' is completely inappropriate in this context.
There's a pretty arrogant streak running through a few of these guys.
Those lads are just making themselves look worse. Even the most arrogant people have the common sense to keep their mouths shut.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 04:24:26 PM
Disappointing from Kieran Shannon, he referenced the Limerick game and Kildare were happy to move.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgtIdzNW0AARH_w.jpg)
Really Kieran?
When was the last time you played a 'home' qualifier away from Newbridge?
That Limerick game was the one and only time. It caused uproar at the time but the KCB had been warned in advance it could occur.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 04:48:45 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
Have you Moran on the bench to save his energy for the business end of the game?
Would love to be able to do that but we need Andy from the start. The team is in survival mode at the moment any heavy hitters left standing have to start to even make the next round as was the case against Tipp last time out.
It's also important to note we're hoping to have a lot of games in a relatively short space and Moran's no spring chicken
No point in resting Moran if we are dumped out on Sat evening. That is the way it is with the qualifiers, it's do or die.
He was v quiet against Tipp
Yeah but he never stopped working and showing for the ball and he made oceans of space for James Durcan and Jason Doc. Kildare will double up on Cillian and Andy whereas they would probably go man for man against Loftus and why wouldn't they Loftus has been good from frees but poor form play this year! In an ideal world you would have Andy coming on with 20 mins to go but in an ideal world we would be in the super 8's as Connacht champions!
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 04:08:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
Sorry to interrupt the real discussion with some football talk but what team would people like to see put out? Assuming the players expected back are fit I'd go
Clarke
Barrett
Harrison
O'Donoghue
Keegan
Higgins
Durcan
Vaughan
O'Connor
McLoughlin
O'Shea
Durcan
Doherty
O'Connor
Loftus
****
Hennelly
Crowe
Cafferkey
Boyle
Coen
Kirby
Hanley
Regan
Nally
Douglas
Moran
Two players to start that weren't on the bench last Saturday and two of Mayos best and most experienced players dropped. Are you having a laugh?
Admittedly I'm only going by the highlights but Boyle looked bushed any time I saw him chasing back against Tipp.
Was at the game, he was absolutely knackered and didn't play very well
Same here I thought he wasn't much of a loss being black carded they way he was playing. It really felt like the end in the stand 10 mins into the second half v Tipp!!
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 05:16:54 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 04:08:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
Sorry to interrupt the real discussion with some football talk but what team would people like to see put out? Assuming the players expected back are fit I'd go
Clarke
Barrett
Harrison
O'Donoghue
Keegan
Higgins
Durcan
Vaughan
O'Connor
McLoughlin
O'Shea
Durcan
Doherty
O'Connor
Loftus
****
Hennelly
Crowe
Cafferkey
Boyle
Coen
Kirby
Hanley
Regan
Nally
Douglas
Moran
Two players to start that weren't on the bench last Saturday and two of Mayos best and most experienced players dropped. Are you having a laugh?
Admittedly I'm only going by the highlights but Boyle looked bushed any time I saw him chasing back against Tipp.
Was at the game, he was absolutely knackered and didn't play very well
Same here I thought he wasn't much of a loss being black carded they way he was playing. It really felt like the end in the stand 10 mins into the second half v Tipp!!
I think he could use a rest
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 05:16:54 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 04:08:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
Sorry to interrupt the real discussion with some football talk but what team would people like to see put out? Assuming the players expected back are fit I'd go
Clarke
Barrett
Harrison
O'Donoghue
Keegan
Higgins
Durcan
Vaughan
O'Connor
McLoughlin
O'Shea
Durcan
Doherty
O'Connor
Loftus
****
Hennelly
Crowe
Cafferkey
Boyle
Coen
Kirby
Hanley
Regan
Nally
Douglas
Moran
Two players to start that weren't on the bench last Saturday and two of Mayos best and most experienced players dropped. Are you having a laugh?
Admittedly I'm only going by the highlights but Boyle looked bushed any time I saw him chasing back against Tipp.
Was at the game, he was absolutely knackered and didn't play very well
Same here I thought he wasn't much of a loss being black carded they way he was playing. It really felt like the end in the stand 10 mins into the second half v Tipp!!
I think he could use a rest
Yeah probably but Vaughan and Harrison are only back but maybe you could move Barrett out to wingback and bring in O'Donoghue to cornerback. What happened to Micheal Hall as I thought he was good during the league especially against Donegal and Galway?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 04:24:26 PM
Disappointing from Kieran Shannon, he referenced the Limerick game and Kildare were happy to move.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgtIdzNW0AARH_w.jpg)
Really Kieran?
When was the last time you played a 'home' qualifier away from Newbridge?
That Limerick game was the one and only time. It caused uproar at the time but the KCB had been warned in advance it could occur.
Cheers, you'd think it happened every year judging by what I've seen on social media.
Quote from: Solo_run on June 27, 2018, 10:29:02 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 27, 2018, 10:23:29 AM
Someone told me today that if Kildare don't show up in Croke Park then they will also be expelled from the championship next year. Is that true?
I am calling it now - Dublin to get any bye in the Leinster Championship if Kildare are expelled.
Itchy, while this is totally irrelevant now, the rules are that once Kildare gave 48 hour notice (which they did) then they can't be punished for any other competition. Only if they didn't give 48 hours notice that they wouldn't turn up could they be expelled from next year's competition.
FFS, Solo run you're a complete clown. If you knew anything about Leinster, you'd know that Dublin, Laois, Longford and Carlow (as the prev years semi finalists) couldnt possibly benefit from Kildare or anyone else not playing. It would be one of the other teams getting a bonus bye into the QFs.
Quote from: High Fielder on June 27, 2018, 11:59:33 AM
Kildare fans, I am genuinely happy for you. Kildare CB, we will never forget the day you shafted us and sat back as we played Dublin in Nowlan Park. If it was right now, it was right then. A good day for the GAA. Up Laois
That wasn't Kildare's fault. Horan and Ned Quinn did a deal that if Dublin were playing a game outside Croker, the first one would be in Nowlan Park no matter who they drew, and they managed to bully everyone into agreeing.
Wicklow fans might have more to complain about as KCB did vote against Aughrim.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 01:42:40 PM
After season ticket holders, sponsors and teams only 1500 tickets each for Mayo and Kildare to distribute.
Kildare will be outnumbered. f**k it, fair price.
I was expecting a 50/50 split and then season tickets to come out of each side's proportion, rather than take season tickets first and split the remainder 50/50. Advantage Mayo in that regard, as you say.
Anyone know if all the Mayo Cairde (I think that's the name) holders are all getting tickets?
Quote from: Under Lights on June 27, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
Hopefully Donegal kick up a fuss about Dublin having two home games in the super 8s
This will be interesting. But the rules are on Dublin's side in this case. People quoting "neutral venue" are completely in the wrong. Rules say, 1 home, 1 away, 1 Croke Park. No mention whatsoever of neutral venues for games between provincial champions.
Of course, rules can be changed and probably should. Donegal should have the choice as to whether they want to play in Croke Park (this would be their only game in Croke Park in Super 8) or that its moved to a neutral venue of CCCC's choice.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2018, 03:51:05 PM
It's already in the set rules that the cccc will deem if a home venue is capable of hosting a super 8 game no such rule in place however for a round 3 game.
I think the rules are the very same. CCCC were entitled to move the Kildare game if Newbridge didnt meet H&S standards or the guards had a problem. But there's no mention of a capacity quota. So Newbridge did meet all the requirements.
Congress should certainly debate this. Decide what's more important, home venue allowed no matter what capacity is (assuming ground meets H&S) or choose venues that allow more fans to attend. Given the financial aspect, I can only see one result from the vote - although maybe this will change perspectives.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
That Limerick game was the one and only time. It caused uproar at the time but the KCB had been warned in advance it could occur.
Dinny, am I right in saying that the Dublin league game was completely different?
Maybe I'm wrong, so happy to be corrected, but my recollection is that Newbridge was in far worse state than it is now, and everyone agreed it wasn't fit to house the game. Kildare were given the choice of hosting it in a neutral venue (can't remember if it was Tullamore or Portlaoise) or the play it in Croker as part of the "Spring Series". The latter choice (only) came with a wedge of cash, so it wasn't really a choice at all, so I don't think you could blame the KCB for it. But maybe my recollection is wrong!
Riail 6.28. (iii) specifies "Croke Park" for game 1 not "Neutral venue".
Time for folks to start getting motions prepared.
I'd expect a few housekeeping tightening up motions from Árd Comhairle regarding venues for Qualifiers after this week's shenanigans.
Quote from: Hound on June 27, 2018, 05:33:40 PM
I think the rules are the very same. CCCC were entitled to move the Kildare game if Newbridge didnt meet H&S standards or the guards had a problem. But there's no mention of a capacity quota. So Newbridge did meet all the requirements.
Congress should certainly debate this. Decide what's more important, home venue allowed no matter what capacity is (assuming ground meets H&S) or choose venues that allow more fans to attend. Given the financial aspect, I can only see one result from the vote - although maybe this will change perspectives.
No those rules aren't in place for round 3 games yet... and Kildare were entitled to bring this to court if they didn't get their due home game. Its within the set rules for the Super 8s games and CCCC will and can decide if venues such as Newbridge are capable of hosing a last eight game those rules were brought in by congress last year.
Newbridge will be some craic on Saturday night
Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 05:41:06 PM
Riail 6.28. (iii) specifies "Croke Park" for game 1 not "Neutral venue".
Time for folks to start getting motions prepared.
I'd expect a few housekeeping tightening up motions from Árd Comhairle regarding venues for Qualifiers after this week's shenanigans.
Also Dublin's home pitch is meant to be Parnell Park and if Parnell is not seen fit to host their home Super 8 game it should be moved to neutral venue...
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Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 05:41:06 PM
Riail 6.28. (iii) specifies "Croke Park" for game 1 not "Neutral venue".
Time for folks to start getting motions prepared.
I'd expect a few housekeeping tightening up motions from Árd Comhairle regarding venues for Qualifiers after this week's shenanigans.
Also Dublin's home pitch is meant to be Parnell Park and if Parnell is not seen fit to host their home Super 8 game it should be moved to neutral venue...
Poor Dublin haven't had a home game in ages
#ParnellOrNowhere
Imagine how much more interesting this competition would be if the Dubs were not allowed to take part of maybe they could just play the goal game the Wed after the All Ireland as the amateurs v the Profs.
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 27, 2018, 06:48:13 PM
Imagine how much more interesting this competition would be if the Dubs were not allowed to take part of maybe they could just play the goal game the Wed after the All Ireland as the amateurs v the Profs.
No team is unbeatable
https://youtu.be/RztFiCl_r20
https://youtu.be/Wxgju-2xbfQ
Also Kerry 03-08
Alan Milton's tone is all wrong on Off the Ball for me.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 27, 2018, 05:22:10 PM
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
Sorry to interrupt the real discussion with some football talk but what team would people like to see put out? Assuming the players expected back are fit I'd go
Clarke
Barrett
Harrison
O'Donoghue
Keegan
Higgins
Durcan
Vaughan
O'Connor
McLoughlin
O'Shea
Durcan
Doherty
O'Connor
Loftus
****
Hennelly
Crowe
Cafferkey
Boyle
Coen
Kirby
Hanley
Regan
Nally
Douglas
Moran
Two players to start that weren't on the bench last Saturday and two of Mayos best and most experienced players dropped. Are you having a laugh?
Admittedly I'm only going by the highlights but Boyle looked bushed any time I saw him chasing back against Tipp.
Was at the game, he was absolutely knackered and didn't play very well
Same here I thought he wasn't much of a loss being black carded they way he was playing. It really felt like the end in the stand 10 mins into the second half v Tipp!!
I think he could use a rest
Yeah probably but Vaughan and Harrison are only back but maybe you could move Barrett out to wingback and bring in O'Donoghue to cornerback. What happened to Micheal Hall as I thought he was good during the league especially against Donegal and Galway?
That's true but are we going to get a better time than now to reintroduce them than now?
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
No point complaining about tickets! I everybody has a chance to get a season ticket at the start of the year!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2018, 07:53:34 PM
No point complaining about tickets! I everybody has a chance to get a season ticket at the start of the year!
They don't. Mayo and Dublin have been sold out for years and only allowing someone new to purchase if a holder doesn't renew
Anyway the actual game.
Newbridge is a tighter pitch than most and ironically doesn;t bring out the best in a lot of our runners.
The key man for Kildare will be Kevin Feely in terms of his leadership on top of his talents. Mayo are after losing some key men there, so it could be a place to make hay.
Donnellan's kickouts were dodgy against Longford but there was noone demanding the ball either. If in doubt landing it long to Feely is a great option.
Mayo must surely be jaded but their better bet could be less running and get O Shea in or around the FF line, or drifting in at least as we are ropey under that ball.
I actually think Andy and Cillian might not make as much hay as usual against Hyland or O'Grady...
We are terribly open down the middle of our defence so that needs tightening for a long time. Murray at 6 with Doyle on the wing?
This should be a cracking game and I feckin can't wait. Ticket in the bag as of a few mins ago. It feels like real championship action is back for Kildare fans.
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Who are these "genuine GAA people"?
Will we only let fully paid up members into games any more?
People who give a sh*t about the wider implications of the decisions made by HQ and how they affect all of us.
You can be a "Genuine" GAA person and disagree about how Kildare handled this. What Croke Park did was not without precedent since they already moved Wicklow's home game this year. I would have thought that moving the game to a venue which could cater for the expected attendance made perfect sense - be it Portlaoise or Croke park. Kildare stood up to "Big Bad Croke Park" - no - they held Croke Park to ransom by threatening to not field. Maybe Kildare will now refuse access to SKY cameras because that's what the "genuine" GAA person wants.
It's not all about you.
Christ Jinxy - I thought you were better than that
Meath men are NEVER better than anything. Remember that
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 09:19:59 AM
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Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Enjoy your Saffas, Kiwis etc in the team of us.
From the county starting a Roscommon forward and a Sligo midfielder this has to go down as a bit of a clanger of a reposte, spuds.
When Andy kisses the Mayo crest and has green & red jersey on his baby you fail to see the stupidity of your covetous ways.
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Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 08:26:04 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Enjoy your Saffas, Kiwis etc in the team of us.
From the county starting a Roscommon forward and a Sligo midfielder this has to go down as a bit of a clanger of a reposte, spuds.
When Andy kisses the Mayo crest and has green & red jersey on his baby you fail to see the stupidity of your covetous ways.
They're from Mayo strongholds of Ballagh and Charlestown respectively, Mayo through and throufh
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 09:19:59 AM
Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 08:26:04 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Enjoy your Saffas, Kiwis etc in the team of us.
From the county starting a Roscommon forward and a Sligo midfielder this has to go down as a bit of a clanger of a reposte, spuds.
When Andy kisses the Mayo crest and has green & red jersey on his baby you fail to see the stupidity of your covetous ways.
They're from Mayo strongholds of Ballagh and Charlestown respectively, Mayo through and throufh
Tom Parsons was born and bred in Bellaghy. And Andy's home is nearer Lisacul than Ballagh..
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
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Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Not very impressive from a director of communications. Several times he mentioned how experienced the CCCC were and how all the staff within HQ were GAA fanatics and weren't out of touch with reality. Its odd that everyone they've wheeled out in the last 48 hours has made a complete tit of themselves including the Chairman of the CCCC who couldn't have made a bigger fool of himself if he tried which was quickly followed up by two ex presidents who didn't take long to show how out out of touch with reality they both were.
I'm astounded at the arrogance of HQ and how complacent they are, they think they can do and say as they please and anyone who disagrees is only a nuisance.
Well done Kildare, good to see someone standing up for themselves. Hopefully all Leinster counties will follow suit for Leinster championship games.
When we do up Pairc Tailteann we're never leaving the place.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 09:55:39 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Not very impressive from a director of communications. Several times he mentioned how experienced the CCCC were and how all the staff within HQ were GAA fanatics and weren't out of touch with reality. Its odd that everyone they've wheeled out in the last 48 hours has made a complete tit of themselves including the Chairman of the CCCC who couldn't have made a bigger fool of himself if he tried which was quickly followed up by two ex presidents who didn't take long to show how out out of touch with reality they both were.
I'm astounded at the arrogance of HQ and how complacent they are, they think they can do and say as they please and anyone who disagrees is only a nuisance.
"The conventional wisdom" gives way not so much to new ideas as to "the massive onslaught of circumstances with which it cannot contend" - J. K. Galbraith
"One way of looking at the history of the human group is that it has been a continuing struggle against the veneration of "crap."―Neil Postman
A very bad week for GAA admin wallahs
Quote from: seafoid on June 27, 2018, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 27, 2018, 09:55:39 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Not very impressive from a director of communications. Several times he mentioned how experienced the CCCC were and how all the staff within HQ were GAA fanatics and weren't out of touch with reality. Its odd that everyone they've wheeled out in the last 48 hours has made a complete tit of themselves including the Chairman of the CCCC who couldn't have made a bigger fool of himself if he tried which was quickly followed up by two ex presidents who didn't take long to show how out out of touch with reality they both were.
I'm astounded at the arrogance of HQ and how complacent they are, they think they can do and say as they please and anyone who disagrees is only a nuisance.
"The conventional wisdom" gives way not so much to new ideas as to "the massive onslaught of circumstances with which it cannot contend" - J. K. Galbraith
"One way of looking at the history of the human group is that it has been a continuing struggle against the veneration of "crap."―Neil Postman
A very bad week for GAA admin wallahs
Harsh on ziggy
Kildare 5/2, Mayo 4/9
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2018, 07:53:34 PM
No point complaining about tickets! I everybody has a chance to get a season ticket at the start of the year!
What ?!
There is a waiting list for a waiting list to get a season ticket in Mayo.
- Parents have started writing them into their wills.
- There was 2 season tickets included in a dowry by the parents of a girl from Belmullet when she got married last summer.
- The Novena in Knock this year is listing the most popular special intention as a a hope to one day be allowed buy a season ticket
- The only reason Enda Kenny resigned as Taoiseach is that he wouldn't have been able to make enough games and get his ticket 'stamped' with all the Brexit negotiations that he knew were on the horizon.
- There was a motion at last years Mayo GAA AGM to give the Rossie back Ballagh if the 2 tickets that Syrefus holds could be re-issued (he only bought years ago to deliberately not use them thus reducing Mayo crowd at big games by 2). It only lost by 1 vote once after Andy Moran said he would give it 1 more year.
- The only reason the Pope agreed to travel to Knock.....
..... ah, you get the picture.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Comical Alan, kept speaking over Joe, very unprofessional. Bad couple of days PR wise for the GAA. They are still getting hammered on Twitter.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 27, 2018, 11:00:51 PM
Kildare 5/2, Mayo 4/9
Mayo at 4/9 is buying money, it has been decades since Kildare last beat a top team.
I still believe we can do it though.
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Quote from: macdanger2 on June 27, 2018, 11:00:51 PM
Kildare 5/2, Mayo 4/9
Mayo at 4/9 is buying money, it has been decades since Kildare last beat a top team.
I still believe we can do it though.
I'd agree although this whole fiasco may have galvanised Kildare and we'll be weakened at MF. Kildare are a team that seems to have the talent but haven't yet produced consistently
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 09:19:59 AM
Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 08:26:04 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Enjoy your Saffas, Kiwis etc in the team of us.
From the county starting a Roscommon forward and a Sligo midfielder this has to go down as a bit of a clanger of a reposte, spuds.
When Andy kisses the Mayo crest and has green & red jersey on his baby you fail to see the stupidity of your covetous ways.
They're from Mayo strongholds of Ballagh and Charlestown respectively, Mayo through and throufh
Tom Parsons was born and bred in Bellaghy. And Andy's home is nearer Lisacul than Ballagh..
Sy....your profile picture is that of a man who was also born in a county different to the one he ended up llaying for. But for a twist of fate, and his father took a job a mile over the border in Rossie Land the great Dermot Earley would have also worn the Red and Green as did many of his immediate family members
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Comical Alan, kept speaking over Joe, very unprofessional. Bad couple of days PR wise for the GAA. They are still getting hammered on Twitter.
He was talking shite
If you have a PR crisis you have to be honest with the people.
https://youtu.be/MrYVn7A6mBA
And he said the goalposts were moved. They must be in Kilcullen.
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 07:43:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Comical Alan, kept speaking over Joe, very unprofessional. Bad couple of days PR wise for the GAA. They are still getting hammered on Twitter.
He was talking shite
If you have a PR crisis you have to be honest with the people.
https://youtu.be/MrYVn7A6mBA
And he said the goalposts were moved. They must be in Kilcullen.
Won't go down as Milton's finest hour - For a communications director he wasn't much interested in a two way communication - not listening - talking over Molloy - telling him to move on! ::)
I do have some sympathy for him though because one of the big problems with Croke Park - Go against the establishment and your finished as grudges will be held!
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 07:43:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Comical Alan, kept speaking over Joe, very unprofessional. Bad couple of days PR wise for the GAA. They are still getting hammered on Twitter.
He was talking shite
If you have a PR crisis you have to be honest with the people.
https://youtu.be/MrYVn7A6mBA
And he said the goalposts were moved. They must be in Kilcullen.
That's one poor interview. Alan constantly talking over him and trying to steer the debate about from the substantive questions. A simple " we got it wrong and we'll take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again" would have done the job
Quote from: straightred on June 28, 2018, 08:47:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 07:43:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Comical Alan, kept speaking over Joe, very unprofessional. Bad couple of days PR wise for the GAA. They are still getting hammered on Twitter.
He was talking shite
If you have a PR crisis you have to be honest with the people.
https://youtu.be/MrYVn7A6mBA
And he said the goalposts were moved. They must be in Kilcullen.
That's one poor interview. Alan constantly talking over him and trying to steer the debate about from the substantive questions. A simple " we got it wrong and we'll take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again" would have done the job
It's completely pointless interviewing anybody from the GAA to explain this one.
The reason they gave in is purely due to the championship hold-up that would have occurred once Kildare entered the appeals process.
They simply couldn't allow that to happen.
But there is no way in the world anybody involved in HQ would publicly admit that so a party line will be trotted out.End of.
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Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 09:49:20 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 09:19:59 AM
Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 08:26:04 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Enjoy your Saffas, Kiwis etc in the team of us.
From the county starting a Roscommon forward and a Sligo midfielder this has to go down as a bit of a clanger of a reposte, spuds.
When Andy kisses the Mayo crest and has green & red jersey on his baby you fail to see the stupidity of your covetous ways.
They're from Mayo strongholds of Ballagh and Charlestown respectively, Mayo through and throufh
Tom Parsons was born and bred in Bellaghy. And Andy's home is nearer Lisacul than Ballagh..
Sy....your profile picture is that of a man who was also born in a county different to the one he ended up llaying for. But for a twist of fate, and his father took a job a mile over the border in Rossie Land the great Dermot Earley would have also worn the Red and Green as did many of his immediate family members
He did wear the green and red in a trial match for the Mayo minors.
Quote from: galwayman on June 28, 2018, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: straightred on June 28, 2018, 08:47:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 07:43:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Comical Alan, kept speaking over Joe, very unprofessional. Bad couple of days PR wise for the GAA. They are still getting hammered on Twitter.
He was talking shite
If you have a PR crisis you have to be honest with the people.
https://youtu.be/MrYVn7A6mBA
And he said the goalposts were moved. They must be in Kilcullen.
That's one poor interview. Alan constantly talking over him and trying to steer the debate about from the substantive questions. A simple " we got it wrong and we'll take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again" would have done the job
It's completely pointless interviewing anybody from the GAA to explain this one.
The reason they gave in is purely due to the championship hold-up that would have occurred once Kildare entered the appeals process.
They simply couldn't allow that to happen.
But there is no way in the world anybody involved in HQ would publicly admit that so a party line will be trotted out.End of.
I was reading about the Portuguese football management. They have a policy of excellence. La machine a gagner. The winning machine.
The President is VP of UEFA and an economist. The commercial director is Irish. He worked for the FA before, Diarmuid Crowley. And he speaks Portuguese.
They went for expats too. To Qatar for the physio. The lawyer worked at UEFA.
The GAA does not have a policy of excellence. It runs on complacency.
Milton is mediocre. Even if he wanted to defend the indefensible there are classier ways to do it. And in the age of twitter spoofers get lambasted.
Quote from: straightred on June 28, 2018, 08:47:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 07:43:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Comical Alan, kept speaking over Joe, very unprofessional. Bad couple of days PR wise for the GAA. They are still getting hammered on Twitter.
He was talking shite
If you have a PR crisis you have to be honest with the people.
https://youtu.be/MrYVn7A6mBA
And he said the goalposts were moved. They must be in Kilcullen.
That's one poor interview. Alan constantly talking over him and trying to steer the debate about from the substantive questions. A simple " we got it wrong and we'll take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again" would have done the job
That's a horrendous interview and another PR own goal from the GAA in a week of own goals.
The arrogance of modern day corporate GAA personified
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 28, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
Quote from: straightred on June 28, 2018, 08:47:46 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 07:43:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Comical Alan, kept speaking over Joe, very unprofessional. Bad couple of days PR wise for the GAA. They are still getting hammered on Twitter.
He was talking shite
If you have a PR crisis you have to be honest with the people.
https://youtu.be/MrYVn7A6mBA
And he said the goalposts were moved. They must be in Kilcullen.
That's one poor interview. Alan constantly talking over him and trying to steer the debate about from the substantive questions. A simple " we got it wrong and we'll take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again" would have done the job
That's a horrendous interview and another PR own goal from the GAA in a week of own goals.
The arrogance of modern day corporate GAA personified
There is such a contrast between the excellence on the pitch and the mediocrity in the boardroom
It will be 3:1 Mayo fans. It will be like a home game for them.
Quote from: TheGreatest on June 28, 2018, 09:46:46 AM
It will be 3:1 Mayo fans. It will be like a home game for them.
It would have been 5:1 in Croke Park.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 28, 2018, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 28, 2018, 02:15:14 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 09:49:20 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 27, 2018, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 09:19:59 AM
Quote from: spuds on June 27, 2018, 08:26:04 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 27, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'll spend me money on the RWC next year.
No integrity left in our games anymore at inter county level.
This fiasco is about €'s, not the sport. At least rugby is a bit transparent on the money side of things.
Enjoy your Saffas, Kiwis etc in the team of us.
From the county starting a Roscommon forward and a Sligo midfielder this has to go down as a bit of a clanger of a reposte, spuds.
When Andy kisses the Mayo crest and has green & red jersey on his baby you fail to see the stupidity of your covetous ways.
They're from Mayo strongholds of Ballagh and Charlestown respectively, Mayo through and throufh
Tom Parsons was born and bred in Bellaghy. And Andy's home is nearer Lisacul than Ballagh..
Sy....your profile picture is that of a man who was also born in a county different to the one he ended up llaying for. But for a twist of fate, and his father took a job a mile over the border in Rossie Land the great Dermot Earley would have also worn the Red and Green as did many of his immediate family members
He did wear the green and red in a trial match for the Mayo minors.
Ah, Jaysus, the oul' shite is starting all over again. ;D ;D
I'd had thought that even Syferus would have enough cop on at this stage to give us all a break and stop whining about Andy Moran, Cian Hanley and the rest from Balllagh who play for Mayo.
If I was a Rossie, the last thing I'd do is go about moaning that some amatuer GAA players prefer to play with another county. I'd be too embarrassed to admit that they opted to do this rather than play for their own county. Doesn't say much about their opinion of Roscommon football.
BTW, Mayo never took Ballagh away from anywhere so they can't give back what they never took. When the border was changed over 120 years ago and Ballagh became part of Roscommon, the GAA club ent to affiliate with the Ross county board but were told to feck off back to Mayo, which they did and there they remain.
Seems they were too good for the local opposition at the time and that probably remains the same to this day.
Milton lost his cool, which you should never do as an official spokesman.
Dave McIntyre actually stepped in to try and calm him down.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 10:09:25 AM
Milton lost his cool, which you should never do as an official spokesman.
Dave McIntyre actually stepped in to try and calm him down.
Yeah very high handed and almost angry type of interview with direct questions ignored by giving the same old tired cliches about being kids being lifted over the turnstyles etc...
Interesting interview with Seamus Hickey with his GPA cap on in the GAA hour podcast with Colm Parkinson.
There is undoubtedly a disconnect between the people employed to run the association, and the people who make up the association. Sometimes I think the lads above in Croke Park see us as a massive herd of cash endowed county jersey wearing Fresians, and their job is to, in the most efficient way possible, set up the games so that they can milk as much of that cash out of us as they can.
Of course the cash is reinvested in nice barnyards and coaching of young calves, but it has become the raison d'etre, rather than letting the cows do what cows do best, even if that means a little less cash in the milking buckets.
And the disconnect rears its head when they are so surprised that the cows give out about this approach.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
There is undoubtedly a disconnect between the people employed to run the association, and the people who make up the association. Sometimes I think the lads above in Croke Park see us as a massive herd of cash endowed county jersey wearing Fresians, and their job is to, in the most efficient way possible, set up the games so that they can milk as much of that cash out of us as they can.
Of course the cash is reinvested in nice barnyards and coaching of young calves, but it has become the raison d'etre, rather than letting the cows do what cows do best, even if that means a little less cash in the milking buckets.
And the disconnect rears its head when they are so surprised that the cows give out about this approach.
(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2013/09/calf.png)
Dairy me.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
There is undoubtedly a disconnect between the people employed to run the association, and the people who make up the association. Sometimes I think the lads above in Croke Park see us as a massive herd of cash endowed county jersey wearing Fresians, and their job is to, in the most efficient way possible, set up the games so that they can milk as much of that cash out of us as they can.
Of course the cash is reinvested in nice barnyards and coaching of young calves, but it has become the raison d'etre, rather than letting the cows do what cows do best, even if that means a little less cash in the milking buckets.
And the disconnect rears its head when they are so surprised that the cows give out about this approach.
Season ticket is another one that they are getting away with. It makes no financial sense to have one so they are depending on the lure of an AI ticket to get people to pay more they otherwise would. Take the super 8s which adds 2 more games to the calendar in July/August. There is no way i'll be able to get to all 3 and I've already used my opt out so I'll end up paying for and then giving those tickets away. Would it kill them to allow another opt out on the back of the Super 8s ?
Quote from: straightred on June 28, 2018, 10:32:41 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
There is undoubtedly a disconnect between the people employed to run the association, and the people who make up the association. Sometimes I think the lads above in Croke Park see us as a massive herd of cash endowed county jersey wearing Fresians, and their job is to, in the most efficient way possible, set up the games so that they can milk as much of that cash out of us as they can.
Of course the cash is reinvested in nice barnyards and coaching of young calves, but it has become the raison d'etre, rather than letting the cows do what cows do best, even if that means a little less cash in the milking buckets.
And the disconnect rears its head when they are so surprised that the cows give out about this approach.
Season ticket is another one that they are getting away with. It makes no financial sense to have one so they are depending on the lure of an AI ticket to get people to pay more they otherwise would. Take the super 8s which adds 2 more games to the calendar in July/August. There is no way i'll be able to get to all 3 and I've already used my opt out so I'll end up paying for and then giving those tickets away. Would it kill them to allow another opt out on the back of the Super 8s ?
(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5650824960/hC06FD667/)
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
There is undoubtedly a disconnect between the people employed to run the association, and the people who make up the association. Sometimes I think the lads above in Croke Park see us as a massive herd of cash endowed county jersey wearing Fresians, and their job is to, in the most efficient way possible, set up the games so that they can milk as much of that cash out of us as they can.
Of course the cash is reinvested in nice barnyards and coaching of young calves, but it has become the raison d'etre, rather than letting the cows do what cows do best, even if that means a little less cash in the milking buckets.
And the disconnect rears its head when they are so surprised that the cows give out about this approach.
(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2013/09/calf.png)
(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2013/08/corkcalf.jpg)
The two boys are ready for Thurles!
Jesus maybe they are right!
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Training has intensified in Kilkenny too...
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on June 28, 2018, 09:46:46 AM
It will be 3:1 Mayo fans. It will be like a home game for them.
It would have been 5:1 in Croke Park.
Surely not Ewan..
Quote from: TheGreatest on June 28, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on June 28, 2018, 09:46:46 AM
It will be 3:1 Mayo fans. It will be like a home game for them.
It would have been 5:1 in Croke Park.
Surely not Ewan..
Ha! I don't think Dinny is Ewan, that's for sure :)
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 10:39:11 AM
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Training has intensified in Kilkenny too...
Is that Seanie making a come back to the Hurling?
;D :D ;D
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 10:39:11 AM
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Training has intensified in Kilkenny too...
;D ;D ;D
Someone put up a formal home advantage analysis re US basketball a few weeks ago.
As far as I remember, it said that players' performance was not impacted at all whether they were home or away. They did find that home teams won more, and found that was most probably a result of referee's being influenced when one team had a big advantage in terms of crowd numbers.
I think Thomond Park is a great example of that where the crowd are super at bringing incidents to the attention of the ref! Some Mayo fans think Keegan wouldn't have got his AI final black card if the incident has happened at the Davin End rather than Hill 16 end (although Mayo are the best at putting big numbers on the Hill when playing the Dubs).
So going on that analysis Kildare footballers will have no real home advantage this weekend. Although as Dinny said it'll be far less pronounced that Croke Park would have been. I think it'll be about 60/40 Mayo, rather than more like 80/20 or worse.
Of course, home advantage is a big advantage for home fans in terms of time and money.
Also I think the controversy is bound to mean Kildare put in some kind of a performance this week. Especially if Feely is back 100%.
While losing O'Shea on top of Parsons is of course bad news for Mayo, I think a more running type midfield might not be such a bad thing overall.
Mayo more dry stock herd so is it too late to line out a pitch inside the rail at the Curragh to play the game at half time in the Derby game there?
Could have big Barry running in the 2:40 as a sort of fitness test.
Quote from: TheGreatest on June 28, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on June 28, 2018, 09:46:46 AM
It will be 3:1 Mayo fans. It will be like a home game for them.
It would have been 5:1 in Croke Park.
Surely not Ewan..
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Ffs, I like his mother don't even follow him on twitter. He wrote a great article this week though ;D
Who's his mother?
Shouldn't the tickets really have been divided 70-30 In favour of the home supporters ie kildare
And then let Mayo sort out their ticket holders from their allocation?
Why does a season ticket give you the right to a ticket for an away game in the championship?
Quote from: Hound on June 28, 2018, 11:11:18 AM
Someone put up a formal home advantage analysis re US basketball a few weeks ago.
As far as I remember, it said that players' performance was not impacted at all whether they were home or away. They did find that home teams won more, and found that was most probably a result of referee's being influenced when one team had a big advantage in terms of crowd numbers.
I think Thomond Park is a great example of that where the crowd are super at bringing incidents to the attention of the ref! Some Mayo fans think Keegan wouldn't have got his AI final black card if the incident has happened at the Davin End rather than Hill 16 end (although Mayo are the best at putting big numbers on the Hill when playing the Dubs).
So going on that analysis Kildare footballers will have no real home advantage this weekend. Although as Dinny said it'll be far less pronounced that Croke Park would have been. I think it'll be about 60/40 Mayo, rather than more like 80/20 or worse.
Of course, home advantage is a big advantage for home fans in terms of time and money.
Also I think the controversy is bound to mean Kildare put in some kind of a performance this week. Especially if Feely is back 100%.
While losing O'Shea on top of Parsons is of course bad news for Mayo, I think a more running type midfield might not be such a bad thing overall.
Surely home/away is dependent on the sport.
Mayo wouldn't have recorded many wins in Tuam, for example. They are well able to beat Galway at home
Sport is in large part emotional/psychological, all other things being equal. And GAA is especially so.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
There is undoubtedly a disconnect between the people employed to run the association, and the people who make up the association. Sometimes I think the lads above in Croke Park see us as a massive herd of cash endowed county jersey wearing Fresians, and their job is to, in the most efficient way possible, set up the games so that they can milk as much of that cash out of us as they can.
Of course the cash is reinvested in nice barnyards and coaching of young calves, but it has become the raison d'etre, rather than letting the cows do what cows do best, even if that means a little less cash in the milking buckets.
And the disconnect rears its head when they are so surprised that the cows give out about this approach.
(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2013/09/calf.png)
That calf is a bit old not to have an ear tag in it. Department will be visiting that Farmer.
Quote from: trailer on June 28, 2018, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
There is undoubtedly a disconnect between the people employed to run the association, and the people who make up the association. Sometimes I think the lads above in Croke Park see us as a massive herd of cash endowed county jersey wearing Fresians, and their job is to, in the most efficient way possible, set up the games so that they can milk as much of that cash out of us as they can.
Of course the cash is reinvested in nice barnyards and coaching of young calves, but it has become the raison d'etre, rather than letting the cows do what cows do best, even if that means a little less cash in the milking buckets.
And the disconnect rears its head when they are so surprised that the cows give out about this approach.
(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2013/09/calf.png)
That calf is a bit old not to have an ear tag in it. Department will be visiting that Farmer.
In Clare? They have the clip on earrings for the animals out there!
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 11:17:49 AM
Who's his mother?
No idea, but he's so unloved not even his mother would follow him on twitter.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 28, 2018, 11:19:51 AM
Shouldn't the tickets really have been divided 70-30 In favour of the home supporters ie kildare
And then let Mayo sort out their ticket holders from their allocation?
Why does a season ticket give you the right to a ticket for an away game in the championship?
Said this a number of times, if Mayo play Dublin in Castlebar it'll be 15,000 fans each so no real home advantage (apart from the few fans who still live in Mayo ;) )
Just like when we play Mayo in AI semis and finals, there's no real advantage to Dublin as it's 50/50 tickets!
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 28, 2018, 11:19:51 AM
Shouldn't the tickets really have been divided 70-30 In favour of the home supporters ie kildare
And then let Mayo sort out their ticket holders from their allocation?
Why does a season ticket give you the right to a ticket for an away game in the championship?
Agreed 50:50 maybe even. However, Kildare got the venue and there's no way they have got anything else
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 10:39:11 AM
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Training has intensified in Kilkenny too...
Cody's taking fairly desperate measures to try and match up with Galway physically.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 28, 2018, 11:19:51 AM
Shouldn't the tickets really have been divided 70-30 In favour of the home supporters ie kildare
And then let Mayo sort out their ticket holders from their allocation?
Why does a season ticket give you the right to a ticket for an away game in the championship?
Because it does.
T&C.
It's a sign you're a true Gael.
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
I think the more athletic midfield approach with AOS dropping in to provide height could work out well for us though
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
Are this Kildare team actually a tall team? Their kit is brilliant for making them look tall. A single colour, on jersey, togs and socks, always makes you look taller. Bill Shankly did the same think with Liverpool when he went to all red, rather than white togs. I always seem to think Kildare are tall, and then when you stand beside them, they're just normal. Tall lads, short lads and medium lads.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
Are this Kildare team actually a tall team? Their kit is brilliant for making them look tall. A single colour, on jersey, togs and socks, always makes you look taller. Bill Shankly did the same think with Liverpool when he went to all red, rather than white togs. I always seem to think Kildare are tall, and then when you stand beside them, they're just normal. Tall lads, short lads and medium lads.
Nearly a constant about Kildare down the years is that they are nearly always described as being very big and fit looking. I have wondered is this actually true or just an optical illusion from the all white kit.
Yeah, I've always thought of them as 'rangy' but it might just be the jersies, which somehow make the players look either tall & wiry or short & stocky.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 28, 2018, 12:47:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
Are this Kildare team actually a tall team? Their kit is brilliant for making them look tall. A single colour, on jersey, togs and socks, always makes you look taller. Bill Shankly did the same think with Liverpool when he went to all red, rather than white togs. I always seem to think Kildare are tall, and then when you stand beside them, they're just normal. Tall lads, short lads and medium lads.
Nearly a constant about Kildare down the years is that they are nearly always described as being very big and fit looking. I have wondered is this actually true or just an optical illusion from the all white kit.
In my experience a lot of times it is the latter. Yes they have tall players, but so does every other county. Side by side comparisons rarely mark Kildare out as being 'unusually' taller or bigger. Except Willie Heffernan.
Athletic and physical is more important than height nowadays.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 28, 2018, 12:56:47 PM
Athletic and physical is more important than height nowadays.
True. Irrelevant, but true :)
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
Are this Kildare team actually a tall team? Their kit is brilliant for making them look tall. A single colour, on jersey, togs and socks, always makes you look taller. Bill Shankly did the same think with Liverpool when he went to all red, rather than white togs. I always seem to think Kildare are tall, and then when you stand beside them, they're just normal. Tall lads, short lads and medium lads.
Our middle 8 players
Moolick 6'5
Feeley 6'3
P Cribben 6'3
Conway 6'2
K Cribben 6'0
J Murray 6'2
K Flynn 6'0
Brophy 6'2 will drop out as well while N Kelly 5'8 will push in
Dan Flynn, Hyland, Kelly, Donellan and O'Grady all 6 foot plus
just checked even Neil Flynn is marked as 6'0
So not a small team not Galway Hurlers big though, just not playing well enough to win this.
A Kildare jersey makes everyone look taller, just a beautiful jersey.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Milton being pretty antagonistic.
Reinforcing everything I believe about the attitude of HQ.
Comical Alan, kept speaking over Joe, very unprofessional. Bad couple of days PR wise for the GAA. They are still getting hammered on Twitter.
The two appearances on Off the Ball from Comical Alan and Ned in the know were car crash stuff.
I hope noone from a professional PR background was listening in and assuming these two were typical of the GAA
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
Are this Kildare team actually a tall team? Their kit is brilliant for making them look tall. A single colour, on jersey, togs and socks, always makes you look taller. Bill Shankly did the same think with Liverpool when he went to all red, rather than white togs. I always seem to think Kildare are tall, and then when you stand beside them, they're just normal. Tall lads, short lads and medium lads.
Our middle 8 players
Moolick 6'5
Feeley 6'3
P Cribben 6'3
Conway 6'2
K Cribben 6'0
J Murray 6'2
K Flynn 6'0
Brophy 6'2 will drop out as well while N Kelly 5'8 will push in
Dan Flynn, Hyland, Kelly, Donellan and O'Grady all 6 foot plus
just checked even Neil Flynn is marked as 6'0
So not a small team not Galway Hurlers big though, just not playing well enough to win this.
A Kildare jersey makes everyone look taller, just a beautiful jersey.
Again in my experience, a lot of those heights are a bit inflated as well. It doesn't take a lot for a 5'10'' guy to get tagged as a 6' 0'' in the program :) Paudie Maher is tagged at 6' 1''. I'm a genuine 6' 1'', and I'm taller than him.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 10:09:25 AM
Milton lost his cool, which you should never do as an official spokesman.
Dave McIntyre actually stepped in to try and calm him down.
Paradise lost. Certainly coherence lost.
Will Bradys be firing out the ham sandwiches Saturday evening, Dinny?
Great marketing opportunity in front of a global audience.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
Are this Kildare team actually a tall team? Their kit is brilliant for making them look tall. A single colour, on jersey, togs and socks, always makes you look taller. Bill Shankly did the same think with Liverpool when he went to all red, rather than white togs. I always seem to think Kildare are tall, and then when you stand beside them, they're just normal. Tall lads, short lads and medium lads.
Our middle 8 players
Moolick 6'5
Feeley 6'3
P Cribben 6'3
Conway 6'2
K Cribben 6'0
J Murray 6'2
K Flynn 6'0
Brophy 6'2 will drop out as well while N Kelly 5'8 will push in
Dan Flynn, Hyland, Kelly, Donellan and O'Grady all 6 foot plus
just checked even Neil Flynn is marked as 6'0
So not a small team not Galway Hurlers big though, just not playing well enough to win this.
A Kildare jersey makes everyone look taller, just a beautiful jersey.
Again in my experience, a lot of those heights are a bit inflated as well. It doesn't take a lot for a 5'10'' guy to get tagged as a 6' 0'' in the program :) Paudie Maher is tagged at 6' 1''. I'm a genuine 6' 1'', and I'm taller than him.
I watched them play against Derry, not much inflated about it (though in general there is a lot of 5ft 10's listed as 6ft in programs). They are a big side, especially in the forwards, bar Niall Kelly.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
Will Bradys be firing out the ham sandwiches Saturday evening, Dinny?
Great marketing opportunity in front of a global audience.
(https://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF454/1035505.jpg)
I'd say Micko went back to Waterville with a boot full of ham that day.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
Are this Kildare team actually a tall team? Their kit is brilliant for making them look tall. A single colour, on jersey, togs and socks, always makes you look taller. Bill Shankly did the same think with Liverpool when he went to all red, rather than white togs. I always seem to think Kildare are tall, and then when you stand beside them, they're just normal. Tall lads, short lads and medium lads.
Our middle 8 players
Moolick 6'5
Feeley 6'3
P Cribben 6'3
Conway 6'2
K Cribben 6'0
J Murray 6'2
K Flynn 6'0
Brophy 6'2 will drop out as well while N Kelly 5'8 will push in
Dan Flynn, Hyland, Kelly, Donellan and O'Grady all 6 foot plus
just checked even Neil Flynn is marked as 6'0
So not a small team not Galway Hurlers big though, just not playing well enough to win this.
A Kildare jersey makes everyone look taller, just a beautiful jersey.
Again in my experience, a lot of those heights are a bit inflated as well. It doesn't take a lot for a 5'10'' guy to get tagged as a 6' 0'' in the program :) Paudie Maher is tagged at 6' 1''. I'm a genuine 6' 1'', and I'm taller than him.
Even so they'll be a fair bit taller than Mayo whether they can use that to their advantage is another discussion.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
Our middle 8 players
Moolick 6'5
Feeley 6'3
P Cribben 6'3
Conway 6'2
K Cribben 6'0
J Murray 6'2
K Flynn 6'0
Brophy 6'2 will drop out as well while N Kelly 5'8 will push in
Dan Flynn, Hyland, Kelly, Donellan and O'Grady all 6 foot plus
just checked even Neil Flynn is marked as 6'0
So not a small team not Galway Hurlers big though, just not playing well enough to win this.
A Kildare jersey makes everyone look taller, just a beautiful jersey.
That won't do. Time to recall big Willie Heff and Jason Phillips. Roli might as well tog out too given the amount of time he is spending on the field these days. Is that Broughal guy from Towers still around?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
What a mad week
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
The smaller pitch is probably worth a few points to Kildare and has certainly appeared to hinder Mayo in recent years.
Kildare are a tall team and with Mayo missing SOS & Parsons you'd imagine Kildare will press the Mayo kickout, having a quick think I can't imagine any of the top teams will have a smaller middle 8 then Mayo will have this summer after been one of the tallest for the last 3 or 4 years;I know they might play Coen in their or in the half back line but I just don't think he should be anywhere near a team thats been so close to winning an AI.
Are this Kildare team actually a tall team? Their kit is brilliant for making them look tall. A single colour, on jersey, togs and socks, always makes you look taller. Bill Shankly did the same think with Liverpool when he went to all red, rather than white togs. I always seem to think Kildare are tall, and then when you stand beside them, they're just normal. Tall lads, short lads and medium lads.
Our middle 8 players
Moolick 6'5
Feeley 6'3
P Cribben 6'3
Conway 6'2
K Cribben 6'0
J Murray 6'2
K Flynn 6'0
Brophy 6'2 will drop out as well while N Kelly 5'8 will push in
Dan Flynn, Hyland, Kelly, Donellan and O'Grady all 6 foot plus
just checked even Neil Flynn is marked as 6'0
So not a small team not Galway Hurlers big though, just not playing well enough to win this.
A Kildare jersey makes everyone look taller, just a beautiful jersey.
Measurements no doubt, supplied by the players themselves.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
Will Bradys be firing out the ham sandwiches Saturday evening, Dinny?
Great marketing opportunity in front of a global audience.
They do it every game, might pacify the thousands locked out knowing at least they will get fed.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 28, 2018, 01:07:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 12:58:41 PM
Our middle 8 players
Moolick 6'5
Feeley 6'3
P Cribben 6'3
Conway 6'2
K Cribben 6'0
J Murray 6'2
K Flynn 6'0
Brophy 6'2 will drop out as well while N Kelly 5'8 will push in
Dan Flynn, Hyland, Kelly, Donellan and O'Grady all 6 foot plus
just checked even Neil Flynn is marked as 6'0
So not a small team not Galway Hurlers big though, just not playing well enough to win this.
A Kildare jersey makes everyone look taller, just a beautiful jersey.
That won't do. Time to recall big Willie Heff and Jason Phillips. Roli might as well tog out too given the amount of time he is spending on the field these days. Is that Broughal guy from Towers still around?
Jesus Brough, Moorefields favourite player, happily retired and coaching underage girls out in Kildangan, still tipping away at the odd game of rugby.
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
What a mad week
Make no mistake, management and player driven with the full support of the county.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 01:08:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
Will Bradys be firing out the ham sandwiches Saturday evening, Dinny?
Great marketing opportunity in front of a global audience.
They do it every game, might pacify the thousands locked out knowing at least they will get fed.
(https://img.maximummedia.ie/joe_ie/eyJkYXRhIjoie1widXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvbWVkaWEtam9lLm1heGltdW1tZWRpYS5pZS5zMy5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tXFxcL3dwLWNvbnRlbnRcXFwvdXBsb2Fkc1xcXC8yMDE2XFxcLzA5XFxcLzE2MTY1MjE3XFxcL21heW9taWNrLmpwZ1wiLFwid2lkdGhcIjo3NjcsXCJoZWlnaHRcIjo0MzEsXCJkZWZhdWx0XCI6XCJodHRwczpcXFwvXFxcL3d3dy5qb2UuaWVcXFwvYXNzZXRzXFxcL2ltYWdlc1xcXC9qb2VcXFwvbm8taW1hZ2UucG5nP3Y9NVwifSIsImhhc2giOiIzMmE1NjMzMTA2YzVmZjRhMTc0YWZmYzVlOWFiN2I3MzQxMmY1ZDdmIn0=/mayomick.jpg)
"Sir, please! The ham is all gone!!"
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 01:05:54 PM
I'd say Micko went back to Waterville with a boot full of ham that day.
And the knives and forks.
;D
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 01:13:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 01:08:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
Will Bradys be firing out the ham sandwiches Saturday evening, Dinny?
Great marketing opportunity in front of a global audience.
They do it every game, might pacify the thousands locked out knowing at least they will get fed.
(https://img.maximummedia.ie/joe_ie/eyJkYXRhIjoie1widXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvbWVkaWEtam9lLm1heGltdW1tZWRpYS5pZS5zMy5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tXFxcL3dwLWNvbnRlbnRcXFwvdXBsb2Fkc1xcXC8yMDE2XFxcLzA5XFxcLzE2MTY1MjE3XFxcL21heW9taWNrLmpwZ1wiLFwid2lkdGhcIjo3NjcsXCJoZWlnaHRcIjo0MzEsXCJkZWZhdWx0XCI6XCJodHRwczpcXFwvXFxcL3d3dy5qb2UuaWVcXFwvYXNzZXRzXFxcL2ltYWdlc1xcXC9qb2VcXFwvbm8taW1hZ2UucG5nP3Y9NVwifSIsImhhc2giOiIzMmE1NjMzMTA2YzVmZjRhMTc0YWZmYzVlOWFiN2I3MzQxMmY1ZDdmIn0=/mayomick.jpg)
"Sir, please! The ham is all gone!!"
Check out the reaction of the young fella in the Mayo jersey on the top right.
Classic "Oh Jesus!" response from the Irish mammy in the sunglasses.
Quote from: joemamas on June 28, 2018, 01:29:57 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 01:13:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 01:08:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
Will Bradys be firing out the ham sandwiches Saturday evening, Dinny?
Great marketing opportunity in front of a global audience.
They do it every game, might pacify the thousands locked out knowing at least they will get fed.
(https://img.maximummedia.ie/joe_ie/eyJkYXRhIjoie1widXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvbWVkaWEtam9lLm1heGltdW1tZWRpYS5pZS5zMy5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tXFxcL3dwLWNvbnRlbnRcXFwvdXBsb2Fkc1xcXC8yMDE2XFxcLzA5XFxcLzE2MTY1MjE3XFxcL21heW9taWNrLmpwZ1wiLFwid2lkdGhcIjo3NjcsXCJoZWlnaHRcIjo0MzEsXCJkZWZhdWx0XCI6XCJodHRwczpcXFwvXFxcL3d3dy5qb2UuaWVcXFwvYXNzZXRzXFxcL2ltYWdlc1xcXC9qb2VcXFwvbm8taW1hZ2UucG5nP3Y9NVwifSIsImhhc2giOiIzMmE1NjMzMTA2YzVmZjRhMTc0YWZmYzVlOWFiN2I3MzQxMmY1ZDdmIn0=/mayomick.jpg)
"Sir, please! The ham is all gone!!"
Check out the reaction of the young fella in the Mayo jersey on the top right.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/9wQgSJmBhgaRi/giphy.gif)
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
What a mad week
Make no mistake, management and player driven with the full support of the county.
Solidarity is unbeatable
L'unité fait la force.
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 02:19:16 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
The GAA will try and move this to Portlaoise or Tullamore. The Kildare CB are jellyfish so it will be moved.
What a mad week
Make no mistake, management and player driven with the full support of the county.
Solidarity is unbeatable
L'unité fait la force.
I don't think you'll live to see the day of a Red Ireland, seafoid.
He'll settle for a maroon Ireland.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 02:28:14 PM
He'll settle for a maroon Ireland.
I'd be happy with a 3 in a row, Jinxy.
Christy Moore having his say
https://twitter.com/christymoore45/status/1011546357071597568
GAA dream quarter finals
Garth Brooks v Bruce Springsteen
Ed Sheeran v U2
The Dubs v The pope
Rihanna v Conor McGregor
#NEWBRIDGEORNOWHERE
Will the game be televised and if so, will it be RTE or Sky that will carry it?
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 28, 2018, 10:46:13 PM
Will the game be televised and if so, will it be RTE or Sky that will carry it?
Sky
#RTEorNowhere
#whenwillthisornowhereshitestop
Today's media narrative basically seems to be, 'The county board screwed Kildare fans because none of them can get tickets now. Hah!'
Eh, we all knew it would pan out like this, people were willing to forego attending the game if it meant retaining home advantage.
The GAA hacks haven't covered themselves in glory this week.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 29, 2018, 09:36:40 AM
Today's media narrative basically seems to be, 'The county board screwed Kildare fans because none of them can get tickets now. Hah!'
Eh, we all knew it would pan out like this, people were willing to forego attending the game if it meant retaining home advantage.
The GAA hacks haven't covered themselves in glory this week.
I bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future. The fact that it is so run down is a weakness for the GAA suits. And with the Super 8 around Kildare could be in it regularly
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
Any team news?
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
The GAA has an attendances problem. It doesn't make sense to shaft Kildare given the state of Leinster football.
Just looking at the Super 8s how many of the last 4 will be any good ?
QuoteIt doesn't make sense to shaft Kildare
That word doesn't apply in HQ
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
The GAA has an attendances problem. It doesn't make sense to shaft Kildare given the state of Leinster football.
Just looking at the Super 8s how many of the last 4 will be any good ?
It *always* makes sense to shaft Kildare.
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
If only the gardai in Kildare had the experience of Punchestown Races, Oxygen, Ryder Cups, Irish Open, Curragh Races, Motor Racing etc etc to call upon.
It's not Kildare's first rodeo. Newbridge could hold over 15K before H&$ kicked in.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 10:13:35 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
If only the gardai in Kildare had the experience of Punchestown Races, Oxygen, Ryder Cups, Irish Open, Curragh Races, Motor Racing etc etc to call upon.
It's not Kildare's first rodeo. Newbridge could hold over 15K before H&$ kicked in.
You just had to throw in a horse analogy.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 10:13:35 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
If only the gardai in Kildare had the experience of Punchestown Races, Oxygen, Ryder Cups, Irish Open, Curragh Races, Motor Racing etc etc to call upon.
It's not Kildare's first rodeo. Newbridge could hold over 15K before H&$ kicked in.
It could to be fair, but the stand is shite.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
The GAA has an attendances problem. It doesn't make sense to shaft Kildare given the state of Leinster football.
Just looking at the Super 8s how many of the last 4 will be any good ?
It *always* makes sense to shaft Kildare.
Sure tis a county of blow-ins.
(http://whatson.ae/dubai/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/sheikh-mohammed-dubai-963x412.jpg)
"Well lads, any winners? Nah, no luck either, I'll be in trouble with the wives! We're headin down to Conleths so we might see ye after. Up the lilies!"
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 10:13:35 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
If only the gardai in Kildare had the experience of Punchestown Races, Oxygen, Ryder Cups, Irish Open, Curragh Races, Motor Racing etc etc to call upon.
It's not Kildare's first rodeo. Newbridge could hold over 15K before H&$ kicked in.
You just had to throw in a horse analogy.
Horses good except for one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4axZz2TpZE
Not feeling the love anymore.
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
One of the conditions for holding the Connacht Final in Hyde Park was , "The event controller, safety officer, chairperson, secretary and treasurer of Roscommon GAA shall be ultimately responsible for the safety if persons on this occasion".
So it's you got your match now take care of it and don't come running to us if there's any problem.
Ironically one of those gents is on the 4Cs.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 29, 2018, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
QuoteI bet Newbridge gets decent development money in the near future.
?
I would have thought the opposite. I'm sure they were offered a large wedge earlier this week already by HQ to move or stick with Croke Park.
I hear that Kildare County board are now on their own with this match insurance wise, organization wise and the rest.
One of the conditions for holding the Connacht Final in Hyde Park was , "The event controller, safety officer, chairperson, secretary and treasurer of Roscommon GAA shall be ultimately responsible for the safety if persons on this occasion".
So it's you got your match now take care of it and don't come running to us if there's any problem.
Ironically one of those gents is on the 4Cs.
The GAA can put in whatever terms or disclaimers they want, but the law is quite clear, once money is exchanged between the patron and the organising body, all responsibility to take "reasonable care" is down to the organsining body. Its the same with all events, no disclaimer is worth the paper its written on, if the necessary precautions aren't taken.
Can't imagine any trouble to be fair.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 11:18:57 AM
Not feeling the love anymore.
Are you going to the match, Dinny ?
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 11:18:57 AM
Not feeling the love anymore.
Are you going to the match, Dinny ?
Sadly, Dinny and Clan are flying to France in the morning. So hopefully the campsite has good wi-fi and GAAGO will be the man for me.
Was offered a ticket too, like hens teeth in Kildare but small price to pay.
This week should be a watershed moment in Kildare, last time the county was this united was Micko's days, McGeeney's antics and departure fairly divided the county.
Wonder how his water business is going in this weather?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 29, 2018, 11:57:35 AM
Can't imagine any trouble to be fair.
The only trouble in Newbridge will be the scramble to get a pint after the game.
you could put twenty thousand in and there still would not be any trouble.
One of the great aspects of Gaelic games.
Can't believe Dinny is taking the horse to France on this of all weekends.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 29, 2018, 02:27:25 PM
Can't believe Dinny is taking the horse to France on this of all weekends.
It was this or miss the Super 8.
In fairness I can understand why the Kildare County Board and its patrons think GAA HQ is shite. After all you just have to look at the mess of the GAA in general, compared with the beacon of excellence that Kildare is, to realise where they're coming from. What they've got is a pyrrhic victory and the sad thing is they don't even realise it. But hopefully they'll have the rest of the summer to reflect on a season the high point of which was when they denied thousands of their supporters the opportunity to watch them play a qualifier against the second best team in the country and I'm sure this will more than erase the memories of O'Connor park on 27 May
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
In fairness I can understand why the Kildare County Board and its patrons think GAA HQ is shite. After all you just have to look at the mess of the GAA in general, compared with the beacon of excellence that Kildare is, to realise where they're coming from. What they've got is a pyrrhic victory and the sad thing is they don't even realise it. But hopefully they'll have the rest of the summer to reflect on a season the high point of which was when they denied thousands of their supporters the opportunity to watch them play a qualifier against the second best team in the country and I'm sure this will more than erase the memories of O'Connor park on 27 May
Thanks Ned. Must be hard being you.
I'm hoping for Kildare to win this but i think they've put a we bit of extra pressure on themselves for this game, they basically have to back this stance up. It would be embarassing if Mayo were to come down there and tear them a new arseh0*e, genuinely would like to see Kildare win this...
@ShaneSaint
Jun 3
"Tipp 2018 are the Mayo of 2017. Shambling and stumbling along, about to be killed off or about to take off."
Tipp were killed off.
Mayo 2018 are a year older and have lost their midfield.
Kildare will have to put in a massive shift to win but it may be possible.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 29, 2018, 11:57:35 AM
Can't imagine any trouble to be fair.
No Mayo builders going? ;D
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
In fairness I can understand why the Kildare County Board and its patrons think GAA HQ is shite. After all you just have to look at the mess of the GAA in general, compared with the beacon of excellence that Kildare is, to realise where they're coming from. What they've got is a pyrrhic victory and the sad thing is they don't even realise it. But hopefully they'll have the rest of the summer to reflect on a season the high point of which was when they denied thousands of their supporters the opportunity to watch them play a qualifier against the second best team in the country and I'm sure this will more than erase the memories of O'Connor park on 27 May
Thanks Ned. Must be hard being you.
So you don't see any element of truth in this?
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
In fairness I can understand why the Kildare County Board and its patrons think GAA HQ is shite. After all you just have to look at the mess of the GAA in general, compared with the beacon of excellence that Kildare is, to realise where they're coming from. What they've got is a pyrrhic victory and the sad thing is they don't even realise it. But hopefully they'll have the rest of the summer to reflect on a season the high point of which was when they denied thousands of their supporters the opportunity to watch them play a qualifier against the second best team in the country and I'm sure this will more than erase the memories of O'Connor park on 27 May
Thanks Ned. Must be hard being you.
So you don't see any element of truth in this?
No I don't Ned because what you fail to understand every Kildare supporter knew the price. It was about more than a match, it was about principle and this Kildare team connecting with their supporters again. You won't hear one Kildare fan complain that we were outnumbered 2:1 at home. Win or lose Kildare supporters will be very proud of the stance they took.
Quote
It is always easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them - Alfred Alder
QuoteIn matters of style, swim with the current; In matters of principle, stand like a rock. - Thomas Jefferson
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
In fairness I can understand why the Kildare County Board and its patrons think GAA HQ is shite. After all you just have to look at the mess of the GAA in general, compared with the beacon of excellence that Kildare is, to realise where they're coming from. What they've got is a pyrrhic victory and the sad thing is they don't even realise it. But hopefully they'll have the rest of the summer to reflect on a season the high point of which was when they denied thousands of their supporters the opportunity to watch them play a qualifier against the second best team in the country and I'm sure this will more than erase the memories of O'Connor park on 27 May
Thanks Ned. Must be hard being you.
So you don't see any element of truth in this?
No I don't Ned because what you fail to understand every Kildare supporter knew the price. It was about more than a match, it was about principle and this Kildare team connecting with their supporters again. You won't hear one Kildare fan complain that we were outnumbered 2:1 at home. Win or lose Kildare supporters will be very proud of the stance they took.
Quote
It is always easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them - Alfred Alder
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Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
In fairness I can understand why the Kildare County Board and its patrons think GAA HQ is shite. After all you just have to look at the mess of the GAA in general, compared with the beacon of excellence that Kildare is, to realise where they're coming from. What they've got is a pyrrhic victory and the sad thing is they don't even realise it. But hopefully they'll have the rest of the summer to reflect on a season the high point of which was when they denied thousands of their supporters the opportunity to watch them play a qualifier against the second best team in the country and I'm sure this will more than erase the memories of O'Connor park on 27 May
Thanks Ned. Must be hard being you.
So you don't see any element of truth in this?
No I don't Ned because what you fail to understand every Kildare supporter knew the price. It was about more than a match, it was about principle and this Kildare team connecting with their supporters again. You won't hear one Kildare fan complain that we were outnumbered 2:1 at home. Win or lose Kildare supporters will be very proud of the stance they took.
Quote
It is always easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them - Alfred Alder
QuoteIn matters of style, swim with the current; In matters of principle, stand like a rock. - Thomas Jefferson
I still fail to see what you achieved to be honest. It's akin to a rebellious teenager getting one over his parents. As a matter of interest, and excuse my ignorance, why was the Carlw match played at Tullamore? Were you supposed to be at home or was if always going to be a neutral venue?
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
In fairness I can understand why the Kildare County Board and its patrons think GAA HQ is shite. After all you just have to look at the mess of the GAA in general, compared with the beacon of excellence that Kildare is, to realise where they're coming from. What they've got is a pyrrhic victory and the sad thing is they don't even realise it. But hopefully they'll have the rest of the summer to reflect on a season the high point of which was when they denied thousands of their supporters the opportunity to watch them play a qualifier against the second best team in the country and I'm sure this will more than erase the memories of O'Connor park on 27 May
Thanks Ned. Must be hard being you.
So you don't see any element of truth in this?
No I don't Ned because what you fail to understand every Kildare supporter knew the price. It was about more than a match, it was about principle and this Kildare team connecting with their supporters again. You won't hear one Kildare fan complain that we were outnumbered 2:1 at home. Win or lose Kildare supporters will be very proud of the stance they took.
Quote
It is always easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them - Alfred Alder
QuoteIn matters of style, swim with the current; In matters of principle, stand like a rock. - Thomas Jefferson
I still fail to see what you achieved to be honest. It's akin to a rebellious teenager getting one over his parents. As a matter of interest, and excuse my ignorance, why was the Carlw match played at Tullamore? Were you supposed to be at home or was if always going to be a neutral venue?
Leinster Championship has many vagaries
1. A certain number games have to be played in Croke Park.
2. Dublin Footballers can only play in Nowlan Park, Portlaoise or CP
3. Some counties have home & away arrangements
4. If no H&A all games are played at a neutral venue.
Kildare have no H&A arrangements. Hence they have played qualifiers at home but haven't had a home Leinster Championship game in 23 years.
All games are fixed by the CCCC based on the above.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 04:55:02 PM
Where are you going to in France
Le pont neuf I imagine
https://www.campingdupontneuf.com
#newbridgeornowherequoi
Actually I removed that post. Was just trying to be polite but if he can't be bothered to respond then he's the one with the problem
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 05:27:23 PM
Actually I removed that post. Was just trying to be polite but if he can't be bothered to respond then he's the one with the problem
There wasn't much wrong with what you said. I'm delighted Kildare got home advantage but I'm sad for the fans who cant go now. Always liked Kildare, best of luck on Saturday.
Mayo team named.
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber(Captain)
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg10wGmXUAEKZU_.jpg)
Surprised Niall Kelly has been dropped, you would expect he would be fresh after getting a 3rd minute black card last week. Anyway hope for the best regardless.
James Murray being dropped is disappointing, he has proven to be a player for the big games at club level and did well in his first 2 games. Hopefully he will come on and make a difference at some stage.
If there isn't the variously strewn broken bones of the Cill Dara players all over the St Conleth's pitch by the full-time whistle, I won't help but think that this was something of an ultimately futile and fallen token of resistance, where when it came right down to brass tacks the Lilywhites were simply incapable of rising to the contrived feverish intimacy of the Newbridge citadel.
Having said all that, if there's a shock to be had in this round of the Qualifiers tomorrow, look no further -- the Mayo boyos aren't accustomed to such slumming it, even at this relatively early stage of the All-Ireland proceedings. :)
QuoteHaving said all that, if there's a shock to be had in this round of the Qualifiers tomorrow, look no further -
It won't be a shock. Everything now points to a Kildare win. Even the bookies have trimmed back the lillies to 5/2. Tomorrow will be the end of an era I'm afraid.
We can only do 15 minute or less bursts to get over the line these days and that includes against Kildare in the league (a brief spell at the end and start of each half won the league game). It was the same last week against Tipp. I fear tomorrow this burst won't happen and Kildare will get enough to creep past us.
Kildare by 1 or 2 points. Fuckit anyhow, these lads gave us a good run over the years.
Im going to make a prediction now.
If Mayo get past Kildare they draw Roscommon.
This is a nice R4 draw for the GAA but it also gives them Mayo v Dublin in Croke Park as well as leaving the Mayo v Dublin All Ireland final possibility open. Mayo v Dublin in Croker is the game they want to see happen.
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 11:21:45 PM
QuoteHaving said all that, if there's a shock to be had in this round of the Qualifiers tomorrow, look no further -
It won't be a shock. Everything now points to a Kildare win. Even the bookies have trimmed back the lillies to 5/2. Tomorrow will be the end of an era I'm afraid.
We can only do 15 minute or less bursts to get over the line these days and that includes against Kildare in the league (a brief spell at the end and start of each half won the league game). It was the same last week against Tipp. I fear tomorrow this burst won't happen and Kildare will get enough to creep past us.
Kildare by 1 or 2 points. Fuckit anyhow, these lads gave us a good run over the years.
If we lose, I'm holding those cccc f*ckers responsible for galvanising a previously average kildare side
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 11:21:45 PM
QuoteHaving said all that, if there's a shock to be had in this round of the Qualifiers tomorrow, look no further -
It won't be a shock. Everything now points to a Kildare win. Even the bookies have trimmed back the lillies to 5/2. Tomorrow will be the end of an era I'm afraid.
We can only do 15 minute or less bursts to get over the line these days and that includes against Kildare in the league (a brief spell at the end and start of each half won the league game). It was the same last week against Tipp. I fear tomorrow this burst won't happen and Kildare will get enough to creep past us.
Kildare by 1 or 2 points. Fuckit anyhow, these lads gave us a good run over the years.
Kildare who lost to Carlow by 7 points then going on to knock Mayo out of the championship would be the shock of the summer.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 29, 2018, 11:26:20 PM
Im going to make a prediction now.
If Mayo get past Kildare they draw Roscommon.
This is a nice R4 draw for the GAA but it also gives them Mayo v Dublin in Croke Park as well as leaving the Mayo v Dublin All Ireland final possibility open. Mayo v Dublin in Croker is the game they want to see happen.
I hate these references to the GAA as them. It's our organisation. Okay there has to be some people running it but in the main are they not nominated by County Boards? And if Mayo draw Roscommon and that generates big income, it's not like these guys are going to drink the takings (in fairness they're probably Pioneers) but they invest it back into the game. And it's to the 'GAA' that those in Kildare who are running them down, will be coming to get the money to upgrade their unfit for purpose unsafe ground. I was in it during the Feile 9 years ago, it was a dump then and I'm sure it still is
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 29, 2018, 11:31:29 PM
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 11:21:45 PM
QuoteHaving said all that, if there's a shock to be had in this round of the Qualifiers tomorrow, look no further -
It won't be a shock. Everything now points to a Kildare win. Even the bookies have trimmed back the lillies to 5/2. Tomorrow will be the end of an era I'm afraid.
We can only do 15 minute or less bursts to get over the line these days and that includes against Kildare in the league (a brief spell at the end and start of each half won the league game). It was the same last week against Tipp. I fear tomorrow this burst won't happen and Kildare will get enough to creep past us.
Kildare by 1 or 2 points. Fuckit anyhow, these lads gave us a good run over the years.
Kildare who lost to Carlow by 7 points then going on to knock Mayo out of the championship would be the shock of the summer.
Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Why would you do up a stadium for one Leinster Championship game in 30 years ? Ground is ideal for league and club championship. When Kildare ran up that debt, the team were playing week in, week out in qualifiers and over that 5 year period we had more televised games than anyone. We cleared the 'debt' very quickly. There were 15000 in Conleths in 2001 v Donegal. Nobody had an issue then. The ground redevelopment was stalled a couple of times. Once by Leinster Council when they were considering a hair brained M50 share with Meath, a long standing planning obijection by the Doc whose practice is behind where the terrace breaks and again during boom when Conleths was going to be sold for redevelopment as it is located in centre of town. The arse fell out of that like manly there. KCB took bull by horns and are redeveloping the ground for 2020. Thankfully they are staying put in the heart of the town. And if you think we were wrong to challenge an arrogantly, greedy CP, who make it up to suit themselves, we'll leave you to it.
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 29, 2018, 11:31:29 PM
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 11:21:45 PM
QuoteHaving said all that, if there's a shock to be had in this round of the Qualifiers tomorrow, look no further -
It won't be a shock. Everything now points to a Kildare win. Even the bookies have trimmed back the lillies to 5/2. Tomorrow will be the end of an era I'm afraid.
We can only do 15 minute or less bursts to get over the line these days and that includes against Kildare in the league (a brief spell at the end and start of each half won the league game). It was the same last week against Tipp. I fear tomorrow this burst won't happen and Kildare will get enough to creep past us.
Kildare by 1 or 2 points. Fuckit anyhow, these lads gave us a good run over the years.
Kildare who lost to Carlow by 7 points then going on to knock Mayo out of the championship would be the shock of the summer.
Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer
performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Fermanagh had system of play to cause a shock and this was a Monaghan side that lost to Down last year. Ropey and not losing will not be shock for Mayo tomorrow however losing certainly will be a shock against Kildare side that are poor defensively.
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
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Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Why do you invariably demolish your very own contributions with wildly hyperbolic shite (rhetorical)? TWO POINTs can never be a fecking hammering, numpty.
Quote from: LilySavage on June 29, 2018, 11:57:48 PM
Why would you do up a stadium for one Leinster Championship game in 30 years ? Ground is ideal for league and club championship. When Kildare ran up that debt, the team were playing week in, week out in qualifiers and over that 5 year period we had more televised games than anyone. We cleared the 'debt' very quickly. There were 15000 in Conleths in 2001 v Donegal. Nobody had an issue then. The ground redevelopment was stalled a couple of times. Once by Leinster Council when they were considering a hair brained M50 share with Meath, a long standing planning obijection by the Doc whose practice is behind where the terrace breaks and again during boom when Conleths was going to be sold for redevelopment as it is located in centre of town. The arse fell out of that like manly there. KCB took bull by horns and are redeveloping the ground for 2020. Thankfully they are staying put in the heart of the town. And if you think we were wrong to challenge an arrogantly, greedy CP, who make it up to suit themselves, we'll leave you to it.
Personally chief I couldn't care less. I'm an Armagh man and we've got a lovely, modern, fit for purpose stadium that holds County games and lots of Club championship games for players of all ages. We're proud of it. If you're happy with what you've got, then good luck to you. I just find it hard to understand that it takes a row with the GAA administration to generate some degree of animation within the County. In most other counties a good run in the championship and a chance of a match in Croker does that. I still am unclear as to who has won here and what they have won, apart from the Kildare manager who has cleverly managed to use this issue as a ruse to deflect attention from how useless he appears to be.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
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Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Why do you invariably demolish your very own contributions with wildly hyperbolic shite (rhetorical)? TWO POINTs can never be a fecking hammering, numpty.
Jesus Fear, you're in bad oul twist tonight!! Hope all is well with you. Are you going to the Horslips event in Belfast in November? If so, I look forward to seeing you again
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 30, 2018, 12:15:56 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
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Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Why do you invariably demolish your very own contributions with wildly hyperbolic shite (rhetorical)? TWO POINTs can never be a fecking hammering, numpty.
Jesus Fear, you're in bad oul twist tonight!! Hope all is well with you. Are you going to the Horslips event in Belfast in November? If so, I look forward to seeing you again
Ah jeez Dougal, no bad oul twist, just a usual canker with that oul syphilis hoor! ;) Thanks for that heads-up, will make it my business bud, and hope all's the best with your good self. See you then, le cúnamh Dé, or whoever!
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
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Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Why do you invariably demolish your very own contributions with wildly hyperbolic shite (rhetorical)? TWO POINTs can never be a fecking hammering, numpty.
Chill out. If you make it through the next round you might have the pleasure of losing to us as well.
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 12:23:52 AM
Chill out. If you make it through the next round you might have the pleasure of losing to us as well.
That Ros side that lost by a cliff-hanger of 4 points in the Connacht Final, right?
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:21:13 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 30, 2018, 12:15:56 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
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Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Why do you invariably demolish your very own contributions with wildly hyperbolic shite (rhetorical)? TWO POINTs can never be a fecking hammering, numpty.
Jesus Fear, you're in bad oul twist tonight!! Hope all is well with you. Are you going to the Horslips event in Belfast in November? If so, I look forward to seeing you again
Ah jeez Dougal, no bad oul twist, just a usual canker with that oul syphilis hoor! ;) Thanks for that heads-up, will make it my business bud, and hope all's the best with your good self. See you then, le cúnamh Dé, or whoever!
Holy God man, don't let him get to you. As a man from your own county said of him ' At a stag weekend, you'd be the one trying to arrange a game of mini golf'.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:26:34 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 12:23:52 AM
Chill out. If you make it through the next round you might have the pleasure of losing to us as well.
That Ros side that lost by a cliff-hanger of 4 points in the Connacht Final, right?
How does one lose 'by a cliff-hanger'? :o
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 12:48:00 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:26:34 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 12:23:52 AM
Chill out. If you make it through the next round you might have the pleasure of losing to us as well.
That Ros side that lost by a cliff-hanger of 4 points in the Connacht Final, right?
How does one lose 'by a cliff-hanger'? :o
Fair dues, evidently, I've unearthed a sense of humour within that irony-proof exterior -- 2 points is a "hammering", so 4 points is a... ;D
Anyway, this is a thread about the Kildare & Mayo game, let's leave it at that.
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 11:21:45 PM
QuoteHaving said all that, if there's a shock to be had in this round of the Qualifiers tomorrow, look no further -
It won't be a shock. Everything now points to a Kildare win. Even the bookies have trimmed back the lillies to 5/2. Tomorrow will be the end of an era I'm afraid.
We can only do 15 minute or less bursts to get over the line these days and that includes against Kildare in the league (a brief spell at the end and start of each half won the league game). It was the same last week against Tipp. I fear tomorrow this burst won't happen and Kildare will get enough to creep past us.
Kildare by 1 or 2 points. Fuckit anyhow, these lads gave us a good run over the years.
And Coen midfield!
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 29, 2018, 11:31:29 PM
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 11:21:45 PM
QuoteHaving said all that, if there's a shock to be had in this round of the Qualifiers tomorrow, look no further -
It won't be a shock. Everything now points to a Kildare win. Even the bookies have trimmed back the lillies to 5/2. Tomorrow will be the end of an era I'm afraid.
We can only do 15 minute or less bursts to get over the line these days and that includes against Kildare in the league (a brief spell at the end and start of each half won the league game). It was the same last week against Tipp. I fear tomorrow this burst won't happen and Kildare will get enough to creep past us.
Kildare by 1 or 2 points. Fuckit anyhow, these lads gave us a good run over the years.
Kildare who lost to Carlow by 7 points then going on to knock Mayo out of the championship would be the shock of the summer.
The Kildare county board growing a set of balls was truly shocking imo
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
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Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Why do you invariably demolish your very own contributions with wildly hyperbolic shite (rhetorical)? TWO POINTs can never be a fecking hammering, numpty.
Fear, losing is losing.
Syf reminds me of the Bodach.
Quote from: highorlow on June 29, 2018, 11:21:45 PM
QuoteHaving said all that, if there's a shock to be had in this round of the Qualifiers tomorrow, look no further -
It won't be a shock. Everything now points to a Kildare win. Even the bookies have trimmed back the lillies to 5/2. Tomorrow will be the end of an era I'm afraid.
We can only do 15 minute or less bursts to get over the line these days and that includes against Kildare in the league (a brief spell at the end and start of each half won the league game). It was the same last week against Tipp. I fear tomorrow this burst won't happen and Kildare will get enough to creep past us.
Kildare by 1 or 2 points. Fuckit anyhow, these lads gave us a good run over the years.
There will be no shock. Kildare had their big win earlier in the week but that's as good as it gets for them. We are talking here about a top 3 team meeting a team well down the pecking order with little form. Expect a good start for the Flour Bags and maybe an early goal and even possibly lead by a point or two at h/t. Then the pace and intensity will be upped and we will pull away - expect a 7+ win. The same will happen next week regardless of who we draw. Our championship starts with the quarterfinals group games. No neeed to pretend the end will come anytime before then.
Now I better go out and make the most of this great weather.
Mentioned earlier that I feel this is a bit of a nothing game in grand scheme of things. We are threading water but the absolute grit of our lads will probably be enough...that being said, it's inevitable that grit at some stage won't be enough.
Kildare on the back of a horrendous league (results wise ) and Leinster championship, should give a decent kick and are strong in positions where we are nortiously vulnerable (big full forward ) and now midfield due to injuries.
Sure results on the field mean nothing. Kildare have done their talking off the field and that seems to mean more to them than anything. As things go, therefore, they've had a brilliant season. Hope you boys absolutely tank them
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 30, 2018, 09:30:34 AM
Sure results on the field mean nothing. Kildare have done their talking off the field and that seems to mean more to them than anything. As things go, therefore, they've had a brilliant season. Hope you boys absolutely tank them
Thanks Ned. We love you too. Must be great in your ivory tower.
On a scorcher of a day like that, white jersies are worth 4 points to a team.
The Lillies will be nice and cool while the Mayo lads are slowly roasting in their own juices.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 30, 2018, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: LilySavage on June 29, 2018, 11:57:48 PM
Why would you do up a stadium for one Leinster Championship game in 30 years ? Ground is ideal for league and club championship. When Kildare ran up that debt, the team were playing week in, week out in qualifiers and over that 5 year period we had more televised games than anyone. We cleared the 'debt' very quickly. There were 15000 in Conleths in 2001 v Donegal. Nobody had an issue then. The ground redevelopment was stalled a couple of times. Once by Leinster Council when they were considering a hair brained M50 share with Meath, a long standing planning obijection by the Doc whose practice is behind where the terrace breaks and again during boom when Conleths was going to be sold for redevelopment as it is located in centre of town. The arse fell out of that like manly there. KCB took bull by horns and are redeveloping the ground for 2020. Thankfully they are staying put in the heart of the town. And if you think we were wrong to challenge an arrogantly, greedy CP, who make it up to suit themselves, we'll leave you to it.
Personally chief I couldn't care less. I'm an Armagh man and we've got a lovely, modern, fit for purpose stadium that holds County games and lots of Club championship games for players of all ages. We're proud of it. If you're happy with what you've got, then good luck to you. I just find it hard to understand that it takes a row with the GAA administration to generate some degree of animation within the County. In most other counties a good run in the championship and a chance of a match in Croker does that. I still am unclear as to who has won here and what they have won, apart from the Kildare manager who has cleverly managed to use this issue as a ruse to deflect attention from how useless he appears to be.
Just trying to educate you sir on reasons why you didn't find your one Feile experience there to your lofty standards. I hope the hundreds in attendance had enough room and the kids were not too traumatised by not playing on a stage comparable to the Athletic Grounds. Best of luck against The Banner. Be tricky one as they've been playing at a consistently higher level than you for a few years now .
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 30, 2018, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: LilySavage on June 29, 2018, 11:57:48 PM
Why would you do up a stadium for one Leinster Championship game in 30 years ? Ground is ideal for league and club championship. When Kildare ran up that debt, the team were playing week in, week out in qualifiers and over that 5 year period we had more televised games than anyone. We cleared the 'debt' very quickly. There were 15000 in Conleths in 2001 v Donegal. Nobody had an issue then. The ground redevelopment was stalled a couple of times. Once by Leinster Council when they were considering a hair brained M50 share with Meath, a long standing
planning obijection by the Doc whose practice is behind where the terrace breaks and again during boom when Conleths was going to be sold for redevelopment as it is located in centre of town. The arse fell out of that like manly there. KCB took bull by horns and are redeveloping the ground for 2020. Thankfully they are staying put in the heart of the town. And if you think we were wrong to challenge an arrogantly, greedy CP, who make it up to suit themselves, we'll leave you to it.
Personally chief I couldn't care less. I'm an Armagh man and we've got a lovely, modern, fit for purpose stadium that holds County games and lots of Club championship games for players of all ages. We're proud of it. If you're happy with what you've got, then good luck to you. I just find it hard to understand that it takes a row with the GAA administration to generate some degree of animation within the County. In most other counties a good run in the championship and a chance of a match in Croker does that. I still am unclear as to who has won here and what they have won, apart from the Kildare manager who has cleverly managed to use this issue as a ruse to deflect attention from how useless he appears to be.
So you say you are an Armagh man dougal yet you havent posted once on the Armagh v Clare thread, you have a lot to say here including you hope kildare get tanked, not very nice, why dont you feck off back to yere own match thread.
I don't really have anything to say on the Armagh v Clare match to be honest only that I hope they win. I'm not comfortable with our county set up and the way the county management rides roughshod over the Club scene but I don't feel strongly enough about it to kick up a scene. I just think the Kildare stuff is bizarre to be honest and if I was a Kildare person I'd be more concerned about how poor my team is and the fact that our county ground is so poor, rather than getting a bee in my bonnet about where our last match in the 2018 Championship is going to be played. I'm intrigued as to who is this Ned that Dinny Breen thinks I am
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 30, 2018, 10:49:17 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 30, 2018, 09:30:34 AM
Sure results on the field mean nothing. Kildare have done their talking off the field and that seems to mean more to them than anything. As things go, therefore, they've had a brilliant season. Hope you boys absolutely tank them
Thanks Ned. We love you too. Must be great in your ivory tower.
I thought you were on the 'Teacher's Boat' to France. Who is this Ned that you keep referring to
Quote from: seafoid on June 30, 2018, 07:27:19 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
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Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Why do you invariably demolish your very own contributions with wildly hyperbolic shite (rhetorical)? TWO POINTs can never be a fecking hammering, numpty.
Fear, losing is losing.
Syf reminds me of the Bodach.
Are you sure you didn't mean the Bod (Mór)?
Quote from: seafoid on June 30, 2018, 07:27:19 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
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Fermanagh beating a hyped up Monaghan side coming off the back of hammering Tyrone would still remain the shock of the summer, C'pn. Mayo's ropey Quailifer performances are part of folklore at this stage.
Why do you invariably demolish your very own contributions with wildly hyperbolic shite (rhetorical)? TWO POINTs can never be a fecking hammering, numpty.
Fear, losing is losing.
Syf reminds me of the Bodach.
And you remind me of a fresher in college who read a leaflet from the Socialism Society.
The Mayo 26 today. Vaughan back but still no Harrison and B Moran.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg7Q0tLWkAAdl_c.jpg)
Balls, I was hoping big Barry would get some game time
Mayo starting as selected is that a first for a Rochford team?
Good start for Kildare 7 mins played Kildare 0-3 Mayo 0-1.
Any you tube links?
Kildare much the better team could be further ahead. 17 mins gone Kildare 0-7 Mayo 0-2
Two very soft frees given to Mayo there. Just a one score game now.
Gough absolutely loves his off the ball frees.
Paul Earley cannot stand Mayo.
Gough savagely harsh on Kildare here. Very soft frees to Mayo and Kildare having to work hard for theirs.
HT Kildare 0-9 Mayo 0-9. Good enjoyable game. Kildare after a bright start have lost their way, discipline in the tackle a big problem for them.
Gough taking his instructions from HQ to give Kildare nothing. That was always going to happen.
About to say that, has he got his orders to give these lilywhite FA
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 30, 2018, 07:20:10 PM
Gough absolutely loves his off the ball frees.
If defenders hold a forward trying to make a run its foul play.
Except in Galway and with Coldrick.
Kildare needed to have scored more when on top.
At least it's a watchable entertaining game unlike the earlier one.
Quote from: joemamas on June 30, 2018, 07:21:32 PM
Paul Earley cannot stand Mayo.
I though ye like to claim the Earleys as Mayonen. Gough has definitely given some soft ones to settle Mayo back into match.
Quote from: pbat on June 30, 2018, 07:39:00 PM
Gough taking his instructions from HQ to give Kildare nothing. That was always going to happen.
They were up by 0-7 to 0-2, hardly Goughs fault.
In this day and age I am sure umpires clue ref into holding and dragging off the ball.
Odds on discipline letting Mayo down again in the second half ?
Soft frees for Mayo a big help but Kildare look out of gas since the 20th minute.
Only one winner. Kildare have ran out of steam. Mayo should win well. They win and that 10k won. On accumulator. Mayo should use bench and rest some bodies for next weekend and super 8s.Would love see Jack o'connor take kildare job next season
Gough refereeing it well apart from one extremely soft free given to Andy Moran. The other off the ball free it never showed a replay to figure out whether it was a correct decision. Mayo have slowly began to dominate after Kildare bullied them physically for first 15 minutes, can only see one result from here.
41 mins gone the side still level. Kildare 0-11 Mayo 0-11. Last Mayo score looked wide.
That COC Free was wide as a gate.
It would be some laugh if there's just a point in it in the end and lack of Hawkeye became the determining factor
49 mins gone sides level again 14 each
Be some craic if that COC wrongly awarded free turns out to be the difference between the sides.
Paul Cribbin has been great for Kildare.
Had it been in croke you could had hawk eye lpl
55 mins gone still level 15 each.
No pen?
60 mins gone Kildare 0-17 Mayo 0-16
Anyone think they'd be within 6 if it were in Croke Park?
Cill Dara 2 up
The Newbridge script is not the croke park script
63 mins gone sides level again 17 each.
The last two Kildare frees have gone as wide as a gate.
67 mins gone Kildare 0-19 Mayo 0-17
69 mins gone Kildare 0-19 Mayo 0-18
Behind one of the goals is not even half full! Tickets for here go walkies or sthing
7 minutes? Did I miss an injury?
74 mins played Kildare 0-20 Mayo 0-18
kildare 2 up well worth the lead.
Good man BlowitUp. Following this from a taxi in Roma.
76 mins gone Kildare 0-21 Mayo 0-18
Will take a miracle at this stage.
Hard to overlook the input seamus osheas and tom parsons have on this mayo team
Well done Kildare. Two major battles won in a week!
FT Kildare 0-21 Mayo 0-19 Fully deserved win.
Entirely justifies the Kildare management and county board digging in and not rolling over to the Ivory towers.
Well done Kildare some effort.
Totally vindicated well done Kildare!!
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 30, 2018, 08:37:36 PM
FT Kildare 0-21 Mayo 0-20 Fully deserved win.
Mayo only had 0-19
AOS was sent off there as well
The end. Some people thought 2014 was it but it wasn't.
Greatest ever Mayo team maybe.
https://youtu.be/JSUIQgEVDM4
Well done Kildare
Well done to Kildare, that was an exceptional sustained effort and good old fashioned drama at the end.
Am sure Mayo mick enjoyed the game saying Mayo only had turn up! Dougal maguire will enjoy that one too! The gaa be praying Kildars are beat nxt week as surely the super 8 home game be in newbridge?
I hope Dinny had the wifi.
What a result for the Lilies. Cian O'Neill had some week. All sins are forgiven.
They must be odds on now for the Super 8.
Delighted for Kildare. The shock of the summer without question but it was no fluke as I thought Kildare were 4 or 5 points the better team today. Great on field celebrations now.
A lot of spare season tickets suddenly available
Cian O'Neill just thanked Tom Ryan for the role he played in resolving the impasse during the week.
Lads, ye need to start listening to me, I'm never wrong about anything. ;D
UP THE LILLIES!!!!
YYYYEEEEESSSSSSSSS
f**k it, the "golden generation" is done and no Celtic Cross to show for it. A sad way to go out.
I'd say the poor divils staying beside Dinny at the campsite have been on to the gendarmes several times. ;D
Congratulations Kildare. Well won
Great game, great win for Kildare best team won as the years caught up with our neighbours.
Genuinely sorry ye didn't win Sam over the years.
But there you go.
Ros v Kildare next week in Portlaoise.
Gutted. f**king gutted. It was always going to end sometime but f**k it it's not nice when it did. Well done Kildare deserved but I'm gutted for the Mayo players.
I take back a lot of the things I said. Fair play to Kildare, their decision to press for home advantage has been proven to be justified. Good luck to them going forward. They still need to do something quickly about the state of their ground and hopefully this will generate an impetus to get things moving in that regard
Unbelievable scenes on the pitch afterwards with players management and fans unified as one, I doubt if we will see scenes like it for the rest of the year even on AI final day.
Kildare deserved it in what was a physically bruising encounter, they played like savages at times and particularly in the last 10-15 minutes when the game was in the melting pot.
You would have to have sympathy for a great Mayo side and Diarmuid O'Connor (MOTM I thought) and Paddy Durcan did not deserve to be on a losing side tonight
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 30, 2018, 08:45:34 PM
Gutted. f**king gutted. It was always going to end sometime but f**k it it's not nice when it did. Well done Kildare deserved but I'm gutted for the Mayo players.
I think people will look back and marvel at how Mayo made the last two AI finals, they looked out of gas this time two years ago but somehow found enough left in the well. The chase for an AI that started in 2011 for most of these lads is now over. Despite their heroics they weren't destined to be the ones to change Mayo's story.
As refreshing as it is to see a Leinster team other than Dublin taking on the big guns, the realisation that I won't get to see Mayo in Croke Park is sinking in.
Always great to watch, play the game the right way and bring massive entertainment and colour to the championship.
Don't think this is 'the end' for them by any stretch.
Crippled with injuries, if they come back fresh next year they'll be right back in the mix.
Wish we could've at least gone out to a proper team with actual aspirations going forward. Kildare probably f**king bend over again to whoever they get in the next round and if not then then in the super 8s
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2018, 08:50:57 PM
As refreshing as it is to see a Leinster team other than Dublin taking on the big guns, the realisation that I won't get to see Mayo in Croke Park is sinking in.
Always great to watch, play the game the right way and bring massive entertainment and colour to the championship.
Don't think this is 'the end' for them by any stretch.
Crippled with injuries, if they come back fresh next year they'll be right back in the mix.
We're a much better watch in fairness.
Kildare v Cork now so the winners have the Dubs at home.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2018, 08:50:57 PM
As refreshing as it is to see a Leinster team other than Dublin taking on the big guns, the realisation that I won't get to see Mayo in Croke Park is sinking in.
Always great to watch, play the game the right way and bring massive entertainment and colour to the championship.
Don't think this is 'the end' for them by any stretch.
Crippled with injuries, if they come back fresh next year they'll be right back in the mix.
They have an awful lot of miles on the clock and they are no longer #1 in Connacht.
I don't think anyone could ask more of the players. They gave everything to the cause.
And it puts a different spin on how the Dubs behaved at the end of last year's final.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 30, 2018, 08:52:38 PM
Wish we could've at least gone out to a proper team with actual aspirations going forward. Kildare probably f**king bend over again to whoever they get in the next round and if not then then in the super 8s
Wise up you twat. They beat you fair and square. You lot had your chance and blew it more times than a €25 hooker.
Congratulations Kildare and to Mup and Dinny, well done. If we could choose a team to end our era it would be ye guys.
Best of luck from now on. Kildare Abu.
Will Willie Joe survive this at all??
Well done Kildare. Two major victories in one week. Both well deserved. Best of luck with the rest of the Championship.
Well done Kildare and hard luck Mayo. This win should bring Kildare on. It's been a long road for this brave Mayo team and unfortunately like many great Mayo teams before them this group seems destined to fall short.
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 27, 2018, 12:39:48 PM
Really looking forward to seeing this game now. I think it will be close and as I said earlier, it might spice up a championship which has been relatively tepid to this point. Thank god the GAA did the right thing and gave the public what they wanted. Hopefully they will think twice before making ad hoc decisions and issuing ultimatums.
Hopefully lesson learned, it's not nothing it's NEWBRIDGE....
Just as I predicted. Well done Kildare on both the game and your correct stance on newbridge.
Kildare subs put enough air in their wheels to get them over the line. I was impressed with the Irish Maradona thought he ran his heart out.
Your heart would go out to the Mayo posters. It has been an incredible journey .
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The worst in my lifetime for disappointment , i dont think ill ever get over the sheer agony of Limerick . I know ill get slated in here for being what looks like pathetic but it is my true feelings, its now October and i still think about it , i have kicked stones in anger when i have random flashbacks.Its not all about the blaming of venue and ref either, things like if Hennelly had of just given it another bit of wellie i believe we'd be all Ireland champions now.It's sickening beyond belief. My worrry is now we might have to bury another generation without Sam and im getting closer to the muck too.
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Truly amazed at the resilience of our bucks. I truly believed we were a spent force after the galway game , i was upset as a supporter in mchale park that evening , for this team to end such a gallant era to an average fancy dan team in our own home didnt sit right but they did us proud again despite what neutrals say, tbh they dont have a friggin clue about this team , you really have to be a Mayo supporter to understand how they just fill you with pride and at this point now i think we are in a healthy position for 17.
What did the championship give us in general? It told us you have to be an absolute gladiator of a man to be part of a top team . I think youre kidding yourself if you think the likes of Galway, Cork ,Ros etc are anywhere near the level of top four/five . Its a different world , when you look at Mayo v dublin /kerry/tyrone/donegal these last few years in the latter stage of championship and compare it to earlier rounds against teams not in that group you really see a difference .
Sidney
It might not feel like it to a Mayo person but there has to be something, as you say, almost spiritual about following a team like that. It's something bigger than just following a team, and as a Dublin supporter, I almost envy Mayo supporters.
We have all the advantages. Population, money, we play all our championship matches and now, it seems, most of our league matches too, at home. It's a pleasure to watch this Dublin team, but given those advantages and now that we've won two All-Irelands and will probably come back for a good few more, I find myself becoming much less partisan. The thrill of winning has gone. There is no desperation to win. We should be winning.
When Dublin won in 2011, it was great. We were underdogs, we hadn't won it for 16 years, we hadn't been in a final for 16 years, and they way we won it coming from behind and winning with almost the last kick was thrilling. Every one of those 16 years was worth it for that moment.
Now it just isn't the same, and it probably never again will be. Dublin have had dark days, but they were nothing compared to what it must be like for a county that hasn't won for 62 years and has lost seven finals. We may have been underdogs in 2011, but we will never be real underdogs. The feelings of disappointment must be magnified by ten when Mayo lose compared to what Dublin fans feel, the feeling of winning will be magnified by a similar amount should they win it. I find myself being reminded of Kilkenny people, who used to go on about the disappointment they felt in 1999 as if it was the most devastating thing that had happened to any county in history. Sorry lads, but you haven't a clue. You will never know disappointment or joy like Mayo.
I read in some paper that the other day that the Boston Red Sox failing to win a World Series for 86 years almost defined who Bostonians were as a people. There's a certain similarity alright, but they were professional players, most of whom weren't even from Boston. They might have been playing for the Yankees the next year. The Mayo team is the Mayo people, and everybody in Mayo is a part of your team in some small way.
Mayo's continuing quest to win Sam is a heartbreaking yet beautiful odyessy. We in Dublin will never know anything like it. In a strange way it's great for football in Mayo. Every year without Sam reinforces that hunger and reinforces the obsession. Mayo are always there or thereabouts at underage level, and few counties have reached more senior finals over the last 25 years. As long as the odyessy keeps going football in Mayo will never decline, it will only get stronger - it's as true a football county as there is. When Mayo finally win the All-Ireland, yes, you will regret that certain players didn't win All-Ireland medals, but every Mayo person will look back at every year and every defeat and realise that it was worth the journey. Until then, you have no choice but to keep enduring, keep working and keep hoping.
Sure look it you can only ride your luck for so long, this result could easily have come at any stage in the last two or three years
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2018, 08:50:57 PM
As refreshing as 3it is to see a Leinster team other than Dublin taking on the big guns, the realisation that I won't get to see Mayo in Croke Park is sinking in.
Always great to watch, play the game the right way and bring massive entertainment and colour to the championship.
Don't think this is 'the end' for them by any stretch.
Crippled with injuries, if they come back fresh next year they'll be right back in the mix.
Thanks Jinxy. Rough going at the moment but I'll survive as will Mayo. Well done Kildare. Better team won.
Who will possibly pack it in with Mayo after this year? Moran came back to earth this year after his amazing Indian summer last year. I thought Boyle has looked like he's been struggling all year. Even Higgins has begun to look human. Obviously Parsons is facing into a long road back.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 30, 2018, 09:36:08 PM
Who will possibly pack it in with Mayo after this year? Moran came back to earth this year after his amazing Indian summer last year. I thought Boyle has looked like he's been struggling all year. Even Higgins has begun to look human. Obviously Parsons is facing into a long road back.
S OShea
No one aside from Andy Moran should be making any snap decisions anyway.
Well done Kildare.
Sad day for Mayo fans but we've had some great days. Too gutted to say anymore
It's all neutral venues for Round 4, is that correct?
I know the CCCC are back in control now.
That was the 100-page week that was.
92 pages in 5 days is some going.
93 now
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2018, 09:38:24 PM
No one aside from Andy Moran should be making any snap decisions anyway.
I hope Andy stays on
He still has it so why should he stop?
Glad the Lads will get a well earned break this year. Super 8 would have been a disaster physically on this group after coming in the back door. the financial demand on Mayo supporters will get a badly needed rest as well. Let there not be a bad word about the Mayo players, they owe nothing to anybody.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2018, 09:46:54 PM
It's all neutral venues for Round 4, is that correct?
I know the CCCC are back in control now.
Yes Jinx and Croker has a concert so Provincial venues.
Cork v Kildare in Killarney
Ros v Armagh in Portlaoise
Laois v Monaghan Hyde
Fermanagh v Tyrone Clones
Congrats to Kildare, better team on the day. Hunger shown by Kildare in the last 10-15 mins the big difference for me. They won 4 big 50/50 balls in the period that really drove them on. As for us, not enough got from our big game players on the day. I actually looked over the pitch at one point in the second half and wondered if Keegan was still on the pitch. Said it all really, a lot of guys looked well gassed before the end. Disappointed but not as much as I thought I'd be. Maybe the sense that this was coming at some point. Sorry for the guys who've brought us so close so many times the last few years and possibly may not get another chance.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 30, 2018, 09:57:38 PM
Glad the Lads will get a well earned break this year. Super 8 would have been a disaster physically on this group after coming in the back door. the financial demand on Mayo supporters will get a badly needed rest as well. Let there not be a bad word about the Mayo players, they owe nothing to anybody.
They owe Noel Connelly and Pat Holmes an apology.
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Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2018, 08:50:57 PM
As refreshing as 3it is to see a Leinster team other than Dublin taking on the big guns, the realisation that I won't get to see Mayo in Croke Park is sinking in.
Always great to watch, play the game the right way and bring massive entertainment and colour to the championship.
Don't think this is 'the end' for them by any stretch.
Crippled with injuries, if they come back fresh next year they'll be right back in the mix.
Thanks Jinxy. Rough going at the moment but I'll survive as will Mayo. Well done Kildare. Better team won.
Thanks also. They have given us eight glorious years, a lot of very proud moments and heartbreak along the way.
They should all hold thier heads up high. they are all heros in my mind.
Congrats to kildare
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Quote from: From the Bunker on June 30, 2018, 09:57:38 PM
Glad the Lads will get a well earned break this year. Super 8 would have been a disaster physically on this group after coming in the back door. the financial demand on Mayo supporters will get a badly needed rest as well. Let there not be a bad word about the Mayo players, they owe nothing to anybody.
They owe Noel Connelly and Pat Holmes an apology.
Feeble effort even from you
The game itself lived up to the hype. Sweltering heat on a balmy summers evening with all the pent up emotion from events off the field very evident on the pitch after the match. Mayo died with their boots on and I just hope Kildare can refocus and channel the same energy into producing a performance close to what we seen tonight for next week. They will have gained an awful lot of goodwill from neutrals around the country this week.
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Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 10:06:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 30, 2018, 09:57:38 PM
Glad the Lads will get a well earned break this year. Super 8 would have been a disaster physically on this group after coming in the back door. the financial demand on Mayo supporters will get a badly needed rest as well. Let there not be a bad word about the Mayo players, they owe nothing to anybody.
They owe Noel Connelly and Pat Holmes an apology.
Feeble effort even from you
It's the damn truth.
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It comes to all teams this, Mayo have given us all a good 8 years and you can only go the well so many times. I wouldn't say they're finished as a long break this year and back next year for one last go at it...I'd say they've one possibly two (max) more years left in that team. Unlucky Mayo and well done Kildare...
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That horse looks like Donald Trump
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 10:06:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 30, 2018, 09:57:38 PM
Glad the Lads will get a well earned break this year. Super 8 would have been a disaster physically on this group after coming in the back door. the financial demand on Mayo supporters will get a badly needed rest as well. Let there not be a bad word about the Mayo players, they owe nothing to anybody.
They owe Noel Connelly and Pat Holmes an apology.
Why were you involved in that team and this to justify your attempt at a troll.
Quote from: illdecide on June 30, 2018, 11:01:20 PM
It comes to all teams this, Mayo have given us all a good 8 years and you can only go the well so many times. I wouldn't say they're finished as a long break this year and back next year for one last go at it...I'd say they've one possibly two (max) more years left in that team. Unlucky Mayo and well done Kildare...
6 good years. 2011 well beaten by Kerry and less than great in Connacht which included an extra time struggle v London. Can't call this year great either lucky to stay up in Div 1 and out of the championship by June. Aren't finish i'd agree they will be back for more next year but probably under new management.
Tonight is all about Kildare though, a mighty win for them totally against the odds well done to them and should be interesting to see how far they go after that win tonight
Current mayo management in job 3 years I believe and have no silverware. Will they be allowed continue?
Quote from: Itchy on June 30, 2018, 11:21:23 PM
Current mayo management in job 3 years I believe and have no silverware. Will they be allowed continue?
Don't think they will want to. Nobody in Mayo cared about Connacht title other than it being an easier route to an AI final
Quote from: yellowcard on June 30, 2018, 08:48:28 PM
Unbelievable scenes on the pitch afterwards with players management and fans unified as one, I doubt if we will see scenes like it for the rest of the year even on AI final day.
Kildare deserved it in what was a physically bruising encounter, they played like savages at times and particularly in the last 10-15 minutes when the game was in the melting pot.
You would have to have sympathy for a great Mayo side and Diarmuid O'Connor (MOTM I thought) and Paddy Durcan did not deserve to be on a losing side tonight
Agree 100% with this. Bizarre as it sounds, these are my two favourite teams to watch, outside of my own.
Diarmuid O'Connor was an absolute trojan and did not deserve to lose. Definitely the best player on the pitch. Himself and Parsons next year at midfield with Seamie to come in for the last 20.
Paddy Durcan is now there/thereabouts the best wing back in the country. Has it all, plus an abundance of bottle.
I think Keith Higgins is the best Mayo player of this generation and most likely to retire. Hopefully he doesn't.
Probably there's a good reason it didnt happen, but would have liked to see him have a consistent run of games closer to the opposition goal (I know he had a short run at half forward, but his primary job always seemed to be defence).
I thought "home advantage" was going to screw things up for Kildare. With Mayo having a good majority of fans in attendance there were 2 clearly wrong decisions (IMO!) in the latter part of the first half, crowd influenced I believe, that brought momentum to Mayo that helped bring them from 5 points down to level, despite Kildare being the better team.
But what a second half performance from Kildare. When the shit hit the fan, they all stood up. STOOD UP. That's the huge benefit of this week. These lads are far better than they've been playing. They were superb. The number 2 epitomised the workrate and ability of the team. Bench played its part as well, so have to give credit to O'Neill. But above all, it was the players themselves that brought it home. Well done and congrats Kildare.
It's the end of Mayo for 2018, but it's not the end of Mayo as AI contenders in future years.
Congrats Kildare found their 2nd wind when they looked gassed after 20 minutes. They were the best team on the day no doubt.
Good game and would have been an even better second half if Mayo had a kick in them for the last ten minutes but they had nothing really which is very surprising. The Parsons and S O Shea injuries was a big hit for Mayo although I think and D O Connor and A O Shea played really well filling in. C O Connor seemed to disappear from play today? I know Kildare are fit but the Mayo legs were shot last 10 minutes and lack of game changers on the bench didn't help either.
Cian O Neill gets a lot of criticism but this week for first getting that game in Newbridge and then pulling off the win will now have hero status. Kildare nearly should have won pulling up in the end. Mayo players looked shell shocked by the intensity of some Kildare players. Only one Mayo point (Andy Moran Free) in the last 10 minutes I was disappointed with that Mayo capitulation at the end so unusual for this group of players maybe just maybe it is an end of era and the mileage on the clock has caught up with them against a younger and fresher team.
If Kildare draw Cork next weekend & beat them they will play Donegal in the Super 8's in......Newbridge ;D ;D ;D
Donegal are away to Ros/R4 winner.
Cork/R4 winner home to Dublin.
I couldn't believe the number of people who bought into the idea that Kildare were in a worse spot by going to bat for the home game. A team in horrid form joining together for a shared cause must have been mana from heaven for O'Neill, win or lose.
Congrats Kildare. Deserved their win and hope you push on from here, celebrations at final whistle will live long with me. Feels like the end of something our side.
Quote from: Hound on June 30, 2018, 11:47:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 30, 2018, 08:48:28 PM
Unbelievable scenes on the pitch afterwards with players management and fans unified as one, I doubt if we will see scenes like it for the rest of the year even on AI final day.
Kildare deserved it in what was a physically bruising encounter, they played like savages at times and particularly in the last 10-15 minutes when the game was in the melting pot.
You would have to have sympathy for a great Mayo side and Diarmuid O'Connor (MOTM I thought) and Paddy Durcan did not deserve to be on a losing side tonight
Agree 100% with this. Bizarre as it sounds, these are my two favourite teams to watch, outside of my own.
Diarmuid O'Connor was an absolute trojan and did not deserve to lose. Definitely the best player on the pitch. Himself and Parsons next year at midfield with Seamie to come in for the last 20.
Paddy Durcan is now there/thereabouts the best wing back in the country. Has it all, plus an abundance of bottle.
I think Keith Higgins is the best Mayo player of this generation and most likely to retire. Hopefully he doesn't.
Probably there's a good reason it didnt happen, but would have liked to see him have a consistent run of games closer to the opposition goal (I know he had a short run at half forward, but his primary job always seemed to be defence).
I thought "home advantage" was going to screw things up for Kildare. With Mayo having a good majority of fans in attendance there were 2 clearly wrong decisions (IMO!) in the latter part of the first half, crowd influenced I believe, that brought momentum to Mayo that helped bring them from 5 points down to level, despite Kildare being the better team.
But what a second half performance from Kildare. When the shit hit the fan, they all stood up. STOOD UP. That's the huge benefit of this week. These lads are far better than they've been playing. They were superb. The number 2 epitomised the workrate and ability of the team. Bench played its part as well, so have to give credit to O'Neill. But above all, it was the players themselves that brought it home. Well done and congrats Kildare.
It's the end of Mayo for 2018, but it's not the end of Mayo as AI contenders in future years.
I always said that about Kildare this year. They lost a few close games in Division One and then got shocked by Carlow. When they went up to Owenbeg they got their mojo back and have been on an upward trajectory ever since. The whole location thing seemed to galvanise them even further but I think they would still have beat Mayo in Croke Park.
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Quote from: yellowcard on June 30, 2018, 08:48:28 PM
Unbelievable scenes on the pitch afterwards with players management and fans unified as one, I doubt if we will see scenes like it for the rest of the year even on AI final day.
Kildare deserved it in what was a physically bruising encounter, they played like savages at times and particularly in the last 10-15 minutes when the game was in the melting pot.
You would have to have sympathy for a great Mayo side and Diarmuid O'Connor (MOTM I thought) and Paddy Durcan did not deserve to be on a losing side tonight
Agree 100% with this. Bizarre as it sounds, these are my two favourite teams to watch, outside of my own.
Diarmuid O'Connor was an absolute trojan and did not deserve to lose. Definitely the best player on the pitch. Himself and Parsons next year at midfield with Seamie to come in for the last 20.
Paddy Durcan is now there/thereabouts the best wing back in the country. Has it all, plus an abundance of bottle.
I think Keith Higgins is the best Mayo player of this generation and most likely to retire. Hopefully he doesn't.
Probably there's a good reason it didnt happen, but would have liked to see him have a consistent run of games closer to the opposition goal (I know he had a short run at half forward, but his primary job always seemed to be defence).
I thought "home advantage" was going to screw things up for Kildare. With Mayo having a good majority of fans in attendance there were 2 clearly wrong decisions (IMO!) in the latter part of the first half, crowd influenced I believe, that brought momentum to Mayo that helped bring them from 5 points down to level, despite Kildare being the better team.
But what a second half performance from Kildare. When the shit hit the fan, they all stood up. STOOD UP. That's the huge benefit of this week. These lads are far better than they've been playing. They were superb. The number 2 epitomised the workrate and ability of the team. Bench played its part as well, so have to give credit to O'Neill. But above all, it was the players themselves that brought it home. Well done and congrats Kildare.
It's the end of Mayo for 2018, but it's not the end of Mayo as AI contenders in future years.
I always said that about Kildare this year. They lost a few close games in Division One and then got shocked by Carlow. When they went up to Owenbeg they got their mojo back and have been on an upward trajectory ever since. The whole location thing seemed to galvanise them even further but I think they would still have beat Mayo in Croke Park.
Let's get real, Kildare could very easily be out themselves in six days time. Mayo have been waiting for a team to beat them in the Quailifiers for three years now so it didn't need to be the highest level performance to beat them, just a team with the nerve to follow through.
Are you a Parish Priest by any chance?
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 29, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
In fairness I can understand why the Kildare County Board and its patrons think GAA HQ is shite. After all you just have to look at the mess of the GAA in general, compared with the beacon of excellence that Kildare is, to realise where they're coming from. What they've got is a pyrrhic victory and the sad thing is they don't even realise it. But hopefully they'll have the rest of the summer to reflect on a season the high point of which was when they denied thousands of their supporters the opportunity to watch them play a qualifier against the second best team in the country and I'm sure this will more than erase the memories of O'Connor park on 27 May
Lol.
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Glad the Lads will get a well earned break this year. Super 8 would have been a disaster physically on this group after coming in the back door. the financial demand on Mayo supporters will get a badly needed rest as well. Let there not be a bad word about the Mayo players, they owe nothing to anybody.
They owe Noel Connelly and Pat Holmes an apology.
Agreed - aidan o'sheas revolt has lead them to nothing and i have no sympathy for this lot after that whole thing. Congrats kildare!
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In fairness I can understand why the Kildare County Board and its patrons think GAA HQ is shite. After all you just have to look at the mess of the GAA in general, compared with the beacon of excellence that Kildare is, to realise where they're coming from. What they've got is a pyrrhic victory and the sad thing is they don't even realise it. But hopefully they'll have the rest of the summer to reflect on a season the high point of which was when they denied thousands of their supporters the opportunity to watch them play a qualifier against the second best team in the country and I'm sure this will more than erase the memories of O'Connor park on 27 May
You didn't answer my question
Lol.
Great result for the people of Kildare after the board, players and management showed courage all week Joe Brolly (@JoeBrolly1993) June 30, 2018
The trick is to play for something bigger than yourself and Kildare found that place todayJoe Brolly (@JoeBrolly1993) June 30, 2018
Kildare. Justified. Took on the establishment & won. Full of respect for them. Deserve their success Thomas Niblock (@thomasniblock) June 30, 2018
Some win for Kildare. Fully deserved. They're a very good footballing team. Home advantage counts, imagine administrators tried to take that off themColm Parkinson (@Woolberto) June 30, 2018
Kildare's greatest win since 2000. Amazing, and it proves why democracy matters. Incredible performance from a team that deserves endless respect. WOO HOO Ger Gilroy (@gergilroy) June 30, 2018
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees. Feargal McGill. Alan Milton. Nickey Brennan. Tom Ryan. Neddy Quinn. Neddy Quinn. You boys took one hell of a beatingd— Ewan MacKenna (@EwanMacKenna) June 30, 2018
Another point, hope this isn't end of great Mayo side. Break might help them. But this was about more than Kildare or them. About disgraceful week. Home advantage worth four in football statistically so venue a form of fixing. Needs to be start, not end of GAA being taken back.end— Ewan MacKenna (@EwanMacKenna) June 30, 2018
Fair play Kildare. Drove it home when it was in the pot. Some cracking points under pressure.
Inevitable Mayo would get clipped the way things have been going , could have easily been last week were it not for fluke goal. Break mentally and physically will see us be a bit more competitive next year hopefully!
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Current mayo management in job 3 years I believe and have no silverware. Will they be allowed continue?
Don't think they will want to. Nobody in Mayo cared about Connacht title other than it being an easier route to an AI final
Well in reality this mayo team have been in decline for the last 3 years and hence no connacht title,there demise has been written about the last 3 yrs as well so it is no surprise it has come to pass.mayo never trained as hard for this year's connacht encounter with and just came up short had they won ther connacht title they would be still a serious outfit in the super 8s.
Age profile has finally caught up and the end for Clarke,Higgins,Boyle,and Andy Moran.All hard people to replace.
But as mayo posters say they owe nothing, and have plenty of connacht titles to show for it.
Indo
it's a measure of the team's longevity that seven of last night's starters, David Clarke, Chris Barrett, Ger Cafferkey, Keith Higgins, Kevin McLoughlin, Aidan O'Shea and Andy Moran played on the side last beaten in an All-Ireland qualifier – a round one fixture against Longford in 2010.
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it's a measure of the team's longevity that seven of last night's starters, David Clarke, Chris Barrett, Ger Cafferkey, Keith Higgins, Kevin McLoughlin, Aidan O'Shea and Andy Moran played on the side last beaten in an All-Ireland qualifier – a round one fixture against Longford in 2010.
Seamus o shea had he not been injured last weekend would have been another to that list. Similar to tipp hurlers who even though we did manage to get over the line twice in that time both were 2nd best teams the last 10 years and both look like it could be end of era's for two very good teams this year
Is that the end of this Mayo team?
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Is that the end of this Mayo team?
It feels like it.
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Is that the end of this Mayo team?
It is for a core of players hanging on for that elusive dream of winning an AI. Plenty of other talent to develop and remain a force for years to come.
However, it shows the importance of winning a provincial championship. Mayo's weakness has been the inability to win and being forced down the route of the qualifiers at the mercy of the draw.
No surprise in being beaten this year as they should have gone last year in the Fermanagh game. Mayo has been surviving on the edge for the last few years but has had the resources that other teams lack to survive a long campaign through the qualifiers.
Interesting to watch how the qualifying teams do if any reach the Super 8s especially those without the depth of squads required to play virtually every week for a couple of months.
The hardest thing about losing is realising that certain players are not good enough. Mayo went far beyond the call of duty but there still was something missing. They were also unlucky time wise. 5 years earlier pre Dubs they could have won at least 2.
Another aspect is the culture of winning. Maybe in a few years a new group will emerge from Mayo with it. And win the shaggin' thing.
That team will owe an awful lot to this group.
Hard to believe that Kildare football was the laughing stock of the country only five weeks ago. I posted after the Carlow match that it needed to be a watershed moment and it certainly looks that way. The attitude since that day has been faultless.
To a man these Kildare players came of age last night. Peter Kelly typified the stubborness and defiance. It's a pity his career has been so interrupted by injury. Speaking of injuries, I doubt the plan was to leave Kevin Feely on for the full match but he was immense when we needed cool head on the ball even though he was clearly not at full steam.
O'Neill, Roli and Enda Murphy deserve great credit and fair play to O'Neill for taking a stand on Monday and uniting the county behind them. The old place was rocking last night and the scenes at the end have not been seen since '98. We have had some lean times over those 20 years and it was fitting that Leper kicked the final point having soldiered through most of that period.
Will the white bandwagon be rolling again next week?
No Stadium will be big enough to cope!
Meanwhile Mayowestros will be rebuilding as the old warriors will be retiring en masse - Higgins, Boyle,Vaughan, Keegan and one or 2 more.
End of an era as Galway take over the mantle.
Plot twist : Mayo win Sam 2019
What can one say? From the low of the Carlow result to the game yesterday it has certainly been a rollercoaster week for us Kildare fans. The furore all week over the venue looks to have united the team and county and was probably a factor in Kildares victory yesterday. I'd be the first to admit that I wasn't a fan of this Kildare team and management. They certainly shoved that down my throat yesterday.
On Monday I didn't think I could be more proud over the stance that Kildare took over the venue. Well I was even more proud yesterday.
It would be remiss of me not to mention this Mayo team. They have been a wonderful side over the past 7/8 years. They have give us all some great moments and I'm sure most would have felt their pain after all their near misses. Unfortunately for them Dublin were in the way these past few years. Hopefully they will be back.
It's hard to admit how empty I feel this morning but not for us supporters for them players moreso.
The battles they took part in since 2011 have been amazing , it's been a journey that must be very difficult for anyone who isn't Mayo hard to understand.
Cork 2011 , Dublin 2012, Donegal 13, the epic battle in Limerick in 2014 and so many more memories , they gave every fooking they had to the cause . It's a sad tale I suppose but I love them warriors , thank you for everything ye gave .
Mayo will be missed even by the haters albeit they don't realise that just yet.
Good luck to Kildare too , couldn't of picked a better team to bow out to eventually.
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Hard to believe that Kildare football was the laughing stock of the country only five weeks ago. I posted after the Carlow match that it needed to be a watershed moment and it certainly looks that way. The attitude since that day has been faultless.
To a man these Kildare players came of age last night. Peter Kelly typified the stubborness and defiance. It's a pity his career has been so interrupted by injury. Speaking of injuries, I doubt the plan was to leave Kevin Feely on for the full match but he was immense when we needed cool head on the ball even though he was clearly not at full steam.
O'Neill, Roli and Enda Murphy deserve great credit and fair play to O'Neill for taking a stand on Monday and uniting the county behind them. The old place was rocking last night and the scenes at the end have not been seen since '98. We have had some lean times over those 20 years and it was fitting that Leper kicked the final point having soldiered through most of that period.
The psychological impact of #Newbridgeorrnowhere was massive. The whole county was behind the lads.
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Will the white bandwagon be rolling again next week?
No Stadium will be big enough to cope!
Meanwhile Mayowestros will be rebuilding as the old warriors will be retiring en masse - Higgins, Boyle,Vaughan, Keegan and one or 2 more.
End of an era as Galway take over the mantle.
The last few years of this team gave the language new words such as Mayowestros and Rhubarbs as well as bringing the issue of Ballagh to national prominence.
Fair play to Kildare and O Neill. From losing all league games to losing to Carlow to beating the second best team in the country. Big win for Kildare. As for Mayo without question the best team never to win an All Ireland. In years to come people will rave about Higgins Keggan and Boyle. Very unlucky not to win the big one, they came up against a machine in 3 of those finals, not to mention Jimmys outfit another year. I have always had issues with their supporters, some of them are fine, some are pure animals. All of them however are passionate about their team and rarely you would see a game where only a couple turn up. They will be hurting this morning, but I feel a proud county like Mayo will always come back, with a bit of tweaking they will be contenders again in the coming years.
Football, bloody hell. Magical stuff and memories that will last forever.
If ever there was a week that defined what the gaa is all about it has been this week. There has been a separation between croke park and the ordinary gaa supporter, the cp ethos has evolved into a mini dictatorship and the same can be said of the provincial councils. Over the last several years fixtures and decisions have been made that made no sense, no fairness, no consultation, ride rough shod over the minions. The county boards fell into line for fear of repercussions down the line, that grant might not be as easy to access if we make noise so roll over.The first to make a stand was our manager Kevin McStay and that war is far from over.
This week Kildare took back power and showed what the real gaa is all about. Its about club, its about parish, its about county but above all else its about community, our own people representing us and what we are. A movement to take our organisation back has been started and a precedent has been set, 31 counties should be forever grateful to Kildare for that.
Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
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Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Meanwhile his brother was nowhere to be seen when we needed someone to stand up and take a score. I think the scene at the end summed up Diarmuids performance when he was injured but kept going and the physio tried to treat him on the pitch but he struggled away from and kind of bounced off the pitch to not waste time
O'Neill fully vindicated, and fair dues to those Flourbags, though it'll be a rather weird denouément to this year's Championship without the active participation of those mad passionate hoors from the Wesht! ;)
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Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
Congrats to Kildare - worthy winners yesterday and very sound supporters after, a Kildare man stopped me on his out to the pitch to commiserate and remind me of the great days we had and that half of Kildare supported us over the past few years.
There was nothing left in the tank when the battle came to boiling point in last few mins, Kildare were ravenous, it reminded me of Mayo a few years ago.
It's been such a joy to follow this Mayo team since 2011, we never won the ultimate prize but we had so many great days that I will always remember with pride and joy.
Some players may bow out but we're not giving up football. Mayo will be back.
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Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
He's a fantastic player but he's not the son of God Syf
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Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
His performance yesterday was just off the charts, he was incredible.
btw, why are you always such a tool
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Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
His performance yesterday was just off the charts, he was incredible.
btw, why are you always such a tool
The irony.
DOC played well but what I quoted is incredible hyperbole. For how well he played, Mayo's midfield collapsed for much of the final 15 minutes yesterday.
Well. I got the whole thing wrong. I thought that kildare could beat Mayo but I didn't think they could do it in Newbridge. It was a cracking atmosphere and kildare didn't hide when the pressure came on. My lads were absolutely buzzing after the match. I've been dragging them to league matches and there was always little enthusiasm from them but I think they've now caught the same bug I caught from going to matches with my dad ;D
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Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
His performance yesterday was just off the charts, he was incredible.
btw, why are you always such a tool
The irony.
DOC played well but what I quoted is incredible hyperbole. For how well he played, Mayo's midfield collapsed for much of the final 15 minutes yesterday.
"one of the greatest in defeat in recent years". Where's the hyperbole? Name a half dozen more that you can think of and I might reassess my post.
Until then, your disagreement, as usual, only strengthens the point.
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Quote from: Esmarelda on July 01, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
His performance yesterday was just off the charts, he was incredible.
btw, why are you always such a tool
The irony.
DOC played well but what I quoted is incredible hyperbole. For how well he played, Mayo's midfield collapsed for much of the final 15 minutes yesterday.
"one of the greatest in defeat in recent years". Where's the hyperbole? Name a half dozen more that you can think of and I might reassess my post.
Until then, your disagreement, as usual, only strengthens the point.
He thought using the word 'hyperbole' would win the argument, regardless of whether it was appropriate or not.
DOC was outstanding for Mayo yesterday i was one of those that had my doubts based on underage level that DOC wouldn't cut it in midfield at senior level. No doubts anymore after that performance yesterday and the Mayo midfield next year should be built around DOC.
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Quote from: Esmarelda on July 01, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
His performance yesterday was just off the charts, he was incredible.
btw, why are you always such a tool
The irony.
DOC played well but what I quoted is incredible hyperbole. For how well he played, Mayo's midfield collapsed for much of the final 15 minutes yesterday.
"one of the greatest in defeat in recent years". Where's the hyperbole? Name a half dozen more that you can think of and I might reassess my post.
Until then, your disagreement, as usual, only strengthens the point.
You're not as good at ripostes as you seem to think you are. A bit like Tubberman. But that level of silly, bad-faith discussion is common here.
I can think of plenty of fantastic performances in defeat the last 12 months alone. Tom Parsons in the Galway match. Diarmuid Murtagh in the Connacht final. Andy Moran in the AI final. Sean Powter against Mayo. Paul Geaney against Mayo, both times. Ffs, Graham Brody against Dublin last week. I could name more if I was bothered.
DOC's performance fits comfortably with those performances but it doesn't comfortably outshine most of them. Invariably in a halfways tight game there is someone on the losing side who has put in an excellent performance so the list is always going to be long.
What you said was hyperbole. It's that simple. You'd be better served just putting your hands up and saying you went overboard than doubling down and running after the poster with an ad hominem attack.
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Quote from: Esmarelda on July 01, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
His performance yesterday was just off the charts, he was incredible.
btw, why are you always such a tool
The irony.
DOC played well but what I quoted is incredible hyperbole. For how well he played, Mayo's midfield collapsed for much of the final 15 minutes yesterday.
"one of the greatest in defeat in recent years". Where's the hyperbole? Name a half dozen more that you can think of and I might reassess my post.
Until then, your disagreement, as usual, only strengthens the point.
You're not as good at ripostes as you seem to think you are. A bit like Tubberman. But that level of silly, bad-faith discussion is common here.
I can think of plenty of fantastic performances in defeat the last 12 months alone. Tom Parsons in the Galway match. Diarmuid Murtagh in the Connacht final. Andy Moran in the AI final. Sean Powter against Mayo. Paul Geaney against Mayo, both times. Ffs, Graham Brody against Dublin last week. I could name more if I was bothered.
DOC's performance fits comfortably with those performances but it doesn't comfortably outshine most of them. Invariably in a halfways tight game there is someone on the losing side who has put in an excellent performance so the list is always going to be long.
What you said was hyperbole. It's that simple. You'd be better served just putting your hands up and saying you went overboard than doubling down and running after the poster with an ad hominem attack.
He said it was
one of the greatest performances in defeat, which you've just agreed with in your last post
"DOC's performance fits comfortably with those performances".
But I applaud the inclusion of "ad hominem", very good :D
You can't feel sorry for DOC.
Was it not for his idiotic elbow on Conroy Mayo would be in the Super 8s
fully rested up and ready to give the big one another crack.
Running himself into the ground yesterday doesn't wash over that stupidity.
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Quote from: Esmarelda on July 01, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
His performance yesterday was just off the charts, he was incredible.
btw, why are you always such a tool
The irony.
DOC played well but what I quoted is incredible hyperbole. For how well he played, Mayo's midfield collapsed for much of the final 15 minutes yesterday.
"one of the greatest in defeat in recent years". Where's the hyperbole? Name a half dozen more that you can think of and I might reassess my post.
Until then, your disagreement, as usual, only strengthens the point.
You're not as good at ripostes as you seem to think you are. A bit like Tubberman. But that level of silly, bad-faith discussion is common here.
I can think of plenty of fantastic performances in defeat the last 12 months alone. Tom Parsons in the Galway match. Diarmuid Murtagh in the Connacht final. Andy Moran in the AI final. Sean Powter against Mayo. Paul Geaney against Mayo, both times. Ffs, Graham Brody against Dublin last week. I could name more if I was bothered.
DOC's performance fits comfortably with those performances but it doesn't comfortably outshine most of them. Invariably in a halfways tight game there is someone on the losing side who has put in an excellent performance so the list is always going to be long.
What you said was hyperbole. It's that simple. You'd be better served just putting your hands up and saying you went overboard than doubling down and running after the poster with an ad hominem attack.
Diarmuid Murtagh in the Connacht final? He disappeared in the second half as his side failed to score from play, collapsed and lost.
Lolzers.
To be fair to Diarmuid O'Connor yesterday, he ran himself into the ground, a performance of real leadership.
Love watching Mayo. They'll be missed by most.
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Quote from: Esmarelda on July 01, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
Diarmuid O'Connor's performance yesterday was one of the greatest in defeat in recent years.
Christ.
His performance yesterday was just off the charts, he was incredible.
btw, why are you always such a tool
The irony.
DOC played well but what I quoted is incredible hyperbole. For how well he played, Mayo's midfield collapsed for much of the final 15 minutes yesterday.
"one of the greatest in defeat in recent years". Where's the hyperbole? Name a half dozen more that you can think of and I might reassess my post.
Until then, your disagreement, as usual, only strengthens the point.
You're not as good at ripostes as you seem to think you are. A bit like Tubberman. But that level of silly, bad-faith discussion is common here.
I can think of plenty of fantastic performances in defeat the last 12 months alone. Tom Parsons in the Galway match. Diarmuid Murtagh in the Connacht final. Andy Moran in the AI final. Sean Powter against Mayo. Paul Geaney against Mayo, both times. Ffs, Graham Brody against Dublin last week. I could name more if I was bothered.
DOC's performance fits comfortably with those performances but it doesn't comfortably outshine most of them. Invariably in a halfways tight game there is someone on the losing side who has put in an excellent performance so the list is always going to be long.
What you said was hyperbole. It's that simple. You'd be better served just putting your hands up and saying you went overboard than doubling down and running after the poster with an ad hominem attack.
You reply to my comment (my opinion) with a one-word reply "Christ" and you criticise me for running after the poster. Why didn't you post your second reply to my initial post?
And as Tubberman has mentioned, I said "one of" not "thee greatest", although I admit I should have said "that I've witnessed".
As for hyperbole, Parsons got injured after 48 minutes of Galway game and you mention him first. You might as well assess Murtagh's performance over the same period.
I think you need to apply the last paragraph of your post to yourself.
Generous and heartfelt goodwill towards the flourbags runs out at midnight.
A lovely tribute from Colm O'Rourke
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-this-is-the-end-of-mayo-as-we-have-known-them-37068850.html
Mayo, as always, died with their boots on. No All-Ireland for some of their greatest players who will carry that burden to the grave. Of course football is not that important but try telling that to Keith Higgins, Andy Moran, Colm Boyle, Lee Keegan and a few others in the weeks, months and years ahead. The O'Sheas will surely stick around but this is the end of Mayo as we have known them for a decade and in truth I feel a certain sadness in that. They are heroes who kept going to the well and found water every time.
Well done Kildare in knocking out the peoples champions. The fawning over the Mayo team is quite frankly embarrassing. Entertaining yes, however failed at the big one and one of the dirtiest teams in history, However people need to chill out, they will be back next year, lots of talent waiting to come through. and still there.
I was listening to John Horan on the radio before the draw this morning.
The language he used to describe the Newbridge affair was very interesting.
It was very much the Kildare county board vs. 'one of our committees'.
He also asserted that St Conleth's is Kildare's home venue and should they make the Super 8s, that's where they will be playing.
Think the CCCC bit off more than they could chew in this instance.
Horan also wants to put a stop to concerts being held in Croke Park at the height of summer.
That montage the Sunday Game did was very harsh, this Mayo team have given the Mayo fans so many great memories but only focused on the heartbreaks.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was few retirements, Boyle looks like the player closest to retirement in terms of performance but Higgins & Moran have still performed well in the last month. I know SOS works in Dublin and think Barrett might be their too, commuting every week isn't easy when their the wrong side of 30.
Durcan & DOC were brilliant, Durcan's scores kept them in it but some of the old problems cane back to haunt them; No impact at all from the bench i've not checked but think they only made 3 subs which in that weather is ridiculous.
Well that was a cracking match in the flesh anyway and while it was heartbreaking to lose I felt we gave every last bit of of ourselves out on the pitch but it just wasn't enough against and excellent Kildare on the the day.
Fair play to Kildare it was a throwback win that reminded me of some of their big wins in the late 90's and early 2000's as I felt the performance we gave would have beaten a lot of other teams who would be considered in the same bracket as Kildare before the match!
Kildare fans afterwards were very gracious in victory (much like the Dubs the last few years) and I just think we have been a tiny bit lethargic and stale all year.
A lot of obituaries (all very kind in fairness) coming from all quarters for us at the moment but I am not too down as I don't think there will be as many retirements as expected but I also expect a good few changes (some are happening or have happened already) and we will be back sooner than you might expect.Probably there is a lot more space to initiate the changes needed than if we were recovering from an All Ireland final loss or semi final loss and there is plenty of potential to work with in the county.
I think the break will do the players, management, the fans and probably the wider Gaa fans good for the summer and we in Mayo can settle back into a cracking Club championship and enjoy with the rest of ye the likes of Kerry, Donegal, Galway, Monaghan and Tyrone taking on the Dubs in the weeks ahead!!
Don't worry lads and lassies we will be back wrecking your heads with terrible wides, ridiculous extra time matches and helter sketler games before you know it!! ;D
Always hard to take when you go out of the championship, its still a sad feeling this morning. Well done to Kildare, a great game and we can have absolutely no complaints, the better team won. I was hoping ye wouldn't draw Fermanagh, I'm not sure playing them will suit you but I hope ye win.
Myself and McDanger were standing beside Cribbens sister and you could see what it meant.
Even up to 70 minutes I expected us to pull it out of the bag, thats just what this team does. Looking at it now, how could we have won when so many under performed, they just looked like a tired team.
Clarke - way too many poor kickouts, i've been saying for while I think Hennelly, even with giving away a goal a game is a better option when you throw in his 45s
Higgins, Barrett, Boyler - all looked tired and got cleaned out - we missed harrison
Keegan - something was wrong there, illness of injury but just not leeroy
Durcan - absolutely outstanding, ridiculously so
Likewise Diarmuid - we've found his best position
Coen - actually provided something going forward, he needs to improve on this next year
Kevin Mc, DOC - both played ok but faded towards the back stretch
AOS - Was very good, won a savage amount of ball - was dead on his feet at the death - needs to be better managed in game, he can't do what he does for 70 minutes - rotate him into full forward or full back but somewhere to give him a breather
Andy/Cillian - nothing stuck, poor from both but they've stood up on other days. Cillian did kick a great point towards the end
James Durcan - poor but he's done well for his first year
Rochford - I've been a long time defender, I think he's done some great things for mayo but what the f**k was he at on Saturday evening, even if he has zero faith in his bench, all six subs need to be used, it was scorching. Andy was dead for 20 minutes, you could have taken off half the team. The biggest criticism has to be that he hasn't won a connacht title in three years. We've been the best team and lost of Galway three years running. Its hastened the end of this team.
Looking round at who can come in, would the likes of McGuinness take it? I don't think so, age profile is wrong.
So it leaves Sloane was the obvious option, he's a man that knows the youth in the county and would probably do a lot to bring in the All ireland U-21 winning team and this years batch of U-20s which would be no bad thing.
There is one other option. McStay bows out to Armagh and calls it a day. I'm not sure he'd even take the job considering how he was fucked over before but he'd do a great job.
I'm sorry to the other sound rossies but I made the mistake of revealing some of Syferus's comments here, what a pathetic excuse for a human being, I hope for your sake Roscommon get hammered next week, or if not next week that ye get embarrassed in Croke Park like ye did last year.
Its been a great few years, some of the most memorable days out. I don't think its finished but we've been a mess at underage for a few years so it'll take a lot to pull it together. But looking at the players under 30 you still have some of the finest talents in the country: Harrison, O'Donoghue, Keegan, Durcan, Diarmuid, Cillian, DOC, Kevin McL, AOS - thats some spine of a team. Give James Durcan and Hanley another year and I think they'll improve immensely.
Its not all doom and gloom.
Maigh Eo abú
I told ye last year to stick DOC in midfield!
If the board had a proper search function I'd find the exact post, but it doesn't so you'll just have to take my word for it.
Now, do the other thing I suggested and convert at least two of your 126 inter-county standard half-backs into forwards.
Quote from: Jinxy on July 02, 2018, 11:52:40 AM
I told ye last year to stick DOC in midfield!
If the board had a proper search function I'd find the exact post, but it doesn't so you'll just have to take my word for it.
Now, do the other thing I suggested and convert at least two of your 126 inter-county standard half-backs into forwards.
And our reply to your insightful analysis is something like this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93D2Pt3a2mc ;)
Was there any animosity outside the ground on Saturday evening ?
Congrats to Kildare and to both teams for what was a thrilling, indeed epic, game of football. I'm sure the next few Connacht championships will prove that rumours of Mayo's demise are being greatly exaggerated and we could have done without the goltraigh music and images of despair from the Sunday Game. I do wonder if Mayo county board missed a beat by not putting out some sort of statement supporting home advantage for Kildare instead of letting yer man from the Mayo blog and the Mayo News podcast express a sentiment which I believe was contrary to what normal Mayo supporters were thinking, and squarely put Mayo in there with the evil empire. Last thing a tired and injury stricken Mayo team needed in that white heat of battle was such a riled up Kildare team, although they were going to be riled up anyway. But some of that sting should have been dampened in advance. It looked for a while that Kildare had expended all their energy in that first twenty minutes or so when they went 7 points to 2 ahead, only to be reeled in rather quickly when Mayo got going. We had Senan Connell telling us on Sky at half time (if I heard correctly) that the most significant thing in the first half was Kildare's warm-up which was overly strenuous in the heat and they had drained themselves compared to Mayo's more gingerly efforts. In other words, Kildare were fecked. James Horan too was looking calm; then again he was calm and professional at the end too (unlike Martin "ah it's cruel, ah it's tragic" Carney). In the second half Kildare finally started doing what Tipperary somehow never thought to do the previous week when they ceded every kickout to Mayo. Kildare pushed up and while Aidan O'Shea in particular pulled off some marvelous catches, in a game of small margins all you needed was the odd ropey one from David Clark to swing things. Some marvelous points kicked by both teams, but it felt Mayo needed backs like Paddy Durkan and Eoin O'Donaghue to kick inspirational scores from well out, whereas Kildare were starting to cut through the Mayo backs and could have had a couple of goals. In the end Kildare deserved their victory, and kicking 21 points against that Mayo team (19 I believe from play) was some going. However, Mayo have NY to ease them into the Connacht championship next year, unlikely to be on the same side of the draw as Galway and I full expect Mayo in the Super 8s in 2019. Some of them may head off to the sunset and while they never secured that All-Ireland medal, they have been marvelous ambassadors for Connacht football and brought great joy to their supporters and great entertainment to the rest of us. Would love to see the back of them but know enough about Connacht football to know that's not how things work out.
Quote from: seafoid on July 02, 2018, 01:42:43 PM
Was there any animosity outside the ground on Saturday evening ?
Somebody in Coffeys called Otemendi a **** for doing this
https://youtu.be/vt2xlLAsxRU
That was about the height of it
Any amount of tickets for sale before the game
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 02, 2018, 11:46:55 AM
Always hard to take when you go out of the championship, its still a sad feeling this morning. Well done to Kildare, a great game and we can have absolutely no complaints, the better team won. I was hoping ye wouldn't draw Fermanagh, I'm not sure playing them will suit you but I hope ye win.
Myself and McDanger were standing beside Cribbens sister and you could see what it meant.
Even up to 70 minutes I expected us to pull it out of the bag, thats just what this team does. Looking at it now, how could we have won when so many under performed, they just looked like a tired team.
Clarke - way too many poor kickouts, i've been saying for while I think Hennelly, even with giving away a goal a game is a better option when you throw in his 45s
Higgins, Barrett, Boyler - all looked tired and got cleaned out - we missed harrison
Keegan - something was wrong there, illness of injury but just not leeroy
Durcan - absolutely outstanding, ridiculously so
Likewise Diarmuid - we've found his best position
Coen - actually provided something going forward, he needs to improve on this next year
Kevin Mc, DOC - both played ok but faded towards the back stretch
AOS - Was very good, won a savage amount of ball - was dead on his feet at the death - needs to be better managed in game, he can't do what he does for 70 minutes - rotate him into full forward or full back but somewhere to give him a breather
Andy/Cillian - nothing stuck, poor from both but they've stood up on other days. Cillian did kick a great point towards the end
James Durcan - poor but he's done well for his first year
Rochford - I've been a long time defender, I think he's done some great things for mayo but what the f**k was he at on Saturday evening, even if he has zero faith in his bench, all six subs need to be used, it was scorching. Andy was dead for 20 minutes, you could have taken off half the team. The biggest criticism has to be that he hasn't won a connacht title in three years. We've been the best team and lost of Galway three years running. Its hastened the end of this team.
Looking round at who can come in, would the likes of McGuinness take it? I don't think so, age profile is wrong.
So it leaves Sloane was the obvious option, he's a man that knows the youth in the county and would probably do a lot to bring in the All ireland U-21 winning team and this years batch of U-20s which would be no bad thing.
There is one other option. McStay bows out to Armagh and calls it a day. I'm not sure he'd even take the job considering how he was fucked over before but he'd do a great job.
I'm sorry to the other sound rossies but I made the mistake of revealing some of Syferus's comments here, what a pathetic excuse for a human being, I hope for your sake Roscommon get hammered next week, or if not next week that ye get embarrassed in Croke Park like ye did last year.
Its been a great few years, some of the most memorable days out. I don't think its finished but we've been a mess at underage for a few years so it'll take a lot to pull it together. But looking at the players under 30 you still have some of the finest talents in the country: Harrison, O'Donoghue, Keegan, Durcan, Diarmuid, Cillian, DOC, Kevin McL, AOS - thats some spine of a team. Give James Durcan and Hanley another year and I think they'll improve immensely.
Its not all doom and gloom.
Maigh Eo abú
I also have defended Rochford, Donie Buckley and McEntee, over three years tactically they have gotten a lot more right than wrong, we are the only team that came within a score of beating Dublin, the Connacht championship void, not their fault, 2016 a shitty kick out followed by a Galway goal, changed that game, 2017 and 2018, you cannot win playing for 3/4 of a game with 14. So they get a pass from me.
On the negative, putting on Loftus with two minutes left, not giving Regan. O Donohue or even Hanley more time, questionable for sure,
that coupled with the fact that we really have the same forward line as we had three years ago.
I hope they all stay on and blood two or three per year for three more years. If the do that they will have had a successful tenure,
Most of us realize that there does appear to be a dearth of talent at the moment.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, these guys have given us some wonderful days over eight years 2011-2018.
the sacrifices they have made have been truly immense, they are all winners in my mind.
They have made a lot of us proud Mayo men especially with their displays in Croke Park.
Hopefully we have the brains, and common sense behind the scenes to build on this.
Quote from: joemamas on July 02, 2018, 02:21:03 PM
I also have defended Rochford, Donie Buckley and McEntee, over three years tactically they have gotten a lot more right than wrong, we are the only team that came within a score of beating Dublin, the Connacht championship void, not their fault, 2016 a shitty kick out followed by a Galway goal, changed that game, 2017 and 2018, you cannot win playing for 3/4 of a game with 14. So they get a pass from me.
On the negative, putting on Loftus with two minutes left, not giving Regan. O Donohue or even Hanley more time, questionable for sure,
that coupled with the fact that we really have the same forward line as we had three years ago.
I hope they all stay on and blood two or three per year for three more years. If the do that they will have had a successful tenure,
Most of us realize that there does appear to be a dearth of talent at the moment.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, these guys have given us some wonderful days over eight years 2011-2018.
the sacrifices they have made have been truly immense, they are all winners in my mind.
They have made a lot of us proud Mayo men especially with their displays in Croke Park.
Hopefully we have the brains, and common sense behind the scenes to build on this.
This has to come down to management too, we've lost three big games in two years due to lack of discipline, it didn't happen under Horan, Leeroys 2014 red against Kerry being the only big game where we played with 14 men as far as I can remember
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 02, 2018, 02:29:00 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 02, 2018, 02:21:03 PM
I also have defended Rochford, Donie Buckley and McEntee, over three years tactically they have gotten a lot more right than wrong, we are the only team that came within a score of beating Dublin, the Connacht championship void, not their fault, 2016 a shitty kick out followed by a Galway goal, changed that game, 2017 and 2018, you cannot win playing for 3/4 of a game with 14. So they get a pass from me.
On the negative, putting on Loftus with two minutes left, not giving Regan. O Donohue or even Hanley more time, questionable for sure,
that coupled with the fact that we really have the same forward line as we had three years ago.
I hope they all stay on and blood two or three per year for three more years. If the do that they will have had a successful tenure,
Most of us realize that there does appear to be a dearth of talent at the moment.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, these guys have given us some wonderful days over eight years 2011-2018.
the sacrifices they have made have been truly immense, they are all winners in my mind.
They have made a lot of us proud Mayo men especially with their displays in Croke Park.
Hopefully we have the brains, and common sense behind the scenes to build on this.
This has to come down to management too, we've lost three big games in two years due to lack of discipline, it didn't happen under Horan, Leeroys 2014 red against Kerry being the only big game where we played with 14 men as far as I can remember
COC sent off late in the replay
Last year with Andy the exception Mayo haven't had the firepower to get the job done. With coc so frequently coming up short in the big games would it not make sense to bring him out the field?
Quote from: Paudi Meehan on July 02, 2018, 05:33:00 PM
Last year with Andy the exception Mayo haven't had the firepower to get the job done. With coc so frequently coming up short in the big games would it not make sense to bring him out the field?
He's played out the field regularly over the years. He's just slow and can't manufacture a yard of space like Andy can to make up for that fact.
coc never struck me as that slow - he's given various Galway markers serious bother in the last five years and i'd love to have him but he seems to have gone stale inside
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0702/975746-mayo-must-revise-high-octane-style-or-face-burnout/
In short, Mayo are shite
Quote from: Paudi Meehan on July 02, 2018, 07:10:23 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0702/975746-mayo-must-revise-high-octane-style-or-face-burnout/
In short, Mayo are shite
Did you actually read the article?
Loftus & DOC off to the states for the summer
http://www.the42.ie/mayo-kildare-analysis-4107060-Jul2018/?utm_source=twitter_short
The stats from the game are in that link above.
Those kick out stats have surprised me, didn't think Mayo were that dominant on them; If before the game you'd shown me that stats I'd have said Mayo would have won comfortably.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 04, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
http://www.the42.ie/mayo-kildare-analysis-4107060-Jul2018/?utm_source=twitter_short
The stats from the game are in that link above.
Those kick out stats have surprised me, didn't think Mayo were that dominant on them; If before the game you'd shown me that stats I'd have said Mayo would have won comfortably.
Lost a few key knockouts near the end though
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 04, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
http://www.the42.ie/mayo-kildare-analysis-4107060-Jul2018/?utm_source=twitter_short
The stats from the game are in that link above.
Those kick out stats have surprised me, didn't think Mayo were that dominant on them; If before the game you'd shown me that stats I'd have said Mayo would have won comfortably.
Not that surprising when you consider some of Mayos best players in that match was their midfielders. I was very surprised however at how loose marking Mayo was in defence. Good defenders Boyle,Keegan,Barrett,Higgins looked well off the pace.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 04, 2018, 04:19:15 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 04, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
http://www.the42.ie/mayo-kildare-analysis-4107060-Jul2018/?utm_source=twitter_short
The stats from the game are in that link above.
Those kick out stats have surprised me, didn't think Mayo were that dominant on them; If before the game you'd shown me that stats I'd have said Mayo would have won comfortably.
Not that surprising when you consider some of Mayos best players in that match was their midfielders. I was very surprised however at how loose marking Mayo was in defence. Good defenders Boyle,Keegan,Barrett,Higgins looked well off the pace.
Those four struggled alright and they're usually among our top few players, a mixture of injuries and age I'd say
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 04, 2018, 01:22:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 04, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
http://www.the42.ie/mayo-kildare-analysis-4107060-Jul2018/?utm_source=twitter_short
The stats from the game are in that link above.
Those kick out stats have surprised me, didn't think Mayo were that dominant on them; If before the game you'd shown me that stats I'd have said Mayo would have won comfortably.
Lost a few key knockouts near the end though
Once AOS tired after about 50-55 minutes Mayo's midfield seriously struggled. In the final ten minutes they lost a lot of breaks around the middle. The sort this Mayo team at their peak lived on.
QuoteUntil then Kildare had only won one of David Clarke's kickouts, but the physical toll of this game was starting to catch up on Mayo and Kildare finished the game winning a total of seven Mayo kickouts, six of these coming in the final quarter.
Not exactly surprising given the Parsons and SoS being on the injured list.
On Kildare's kickouts Donnellan froze for the 1st 50 minutes and couldn't get the quick ones off when players were available. He improved towards the end thankfully.
In the first half Mayo won a good few out on the wings with DO'C and Coen getting to them but they generally ended up under pressure out there due to lack of support. Towards the end they didn't have the legs to get out wide or maybe Kildare adjusted a bit. Feely probably could have had a couple of more frees when fielding too as Mayo did their best to put him off on his jump.
Totm2y.
A backdoor nothing game set by the boards favourite blatherer(Din himself)and just shy of the quota 1st count(100 at T.I).Nearly sure that was more than last years AI final or year befores!
Ominous I thought.It meant media maelstrom and with us involved,never a good ending for us.Disapointed with us not backing up the lillies once the game was TV guarenteed,money's I suppose?
Cribben and Co roped and branded the Men of the Heather all day,shades of Rainbow,Buckley and the Short Grass a '98'.Hope this the efforts of great minors and u21s of last 8/9 years coming through for ye.Anyway as the 'Boss said to Sully' with last words in the Road to Perdition, "I'm glad it was you Micheal".Most of mine are of same towards Cill Dara and tip our hat so accordingly.Glad it was.(except Dinny,7daysof stale croissants for him ;) abandoning ship and Mayo comp) ;D. Besides us Westies have still got the Connies and Donnies.
Props to of all things Sky :o (gasp)a live game from Newbridge when those fkn alps national broadcasters not once in their lazy arsed freeloading history!
Quote from: cuconnacht on July 06, 2018, 10:38:48 AM
Totm2y.
A backdoor nothing game set by the boards favourite blatherer(Din himself)and just shy of the quota 1st count(100 at T.I).Nearly sure that was more than last years AI final or year befores!
Ominous I thought.It meant media maelstrom and with us involved,never a good ending for us.Disapointed with us not backing up the lillies once the game was TV guarenteed,money's I suppose?
Cribben and Co roped and branded the Men of the Heather all day,shades of Rainbow,Buckley and the Short Grass a '98'.Hope this the efforts of great minors and u21s of last 8/9 years coming through for ye.Anyway as the 'Boss said to Sully' with last words in the Road to Perdition, "I'm glad it was you Micheal".Most of mine are of same towards Cill Dara and tip our hat so accordingly.Glad it was.(except Dinny,7daysof stale croissants for him ;) abandoning ship and Mayo comp) ;D. Besides us Westies have still got the Connies and Donnies.
Props to of all things Sky :o (gasp)a live game from Newbridge when those fkn alps national broadcasters not once in their lazy arsed freeloading history!
f**k me the board is getting worse. Has seafoid's illness become contagious?
Quote from: trileacman on July 06, 2018, 10:53:37 AM
Quote from: cuconnacht on July 06, 2018, 10:38:48 AM
Totm2y.
A backdoor nothing game set by the boards favourite blatherer(Din himself)and just shy of the quota 1st count(100 at T.I).Nearly sure that was more than last years AI final or year befores!
Ominous I thought.It meant media maelstrom and with us involved,never a good ending for us.Disapointed with us not backing up the lillies once the game was TV guarenteed,money's I suppose?
Cribben and Co roped and branded the Men of the Heather all day,shades of Rainbow,Buckley and the Short Grass a '98'.Hope this the efforts of great minors and u21s of last 8/9 years coming through for ye.Anyway as the 'Boss said to Sully' with last words in the Road to Perdition, "I'm glad it was you Micheal".Most of mine are of same towards Cill Dara and tip our hat so accordingly.Glad it was.(except Dinny,7daysof stale croissants for him ;) abandoning ship and Mayo comp) ;D. Besides us Westies have still got the Connies and Donnies.
Props to of all things Sky :o (gasp)a live game from Newbridge when those fkn alps national broadcasters not once in their lazy arsed freeloading history!
f**k me the board is getting worse. Has seafoid's illness become contagious?
What do you add to the board anyway?
Need more posts on this match
Quote from: seafoid on July 06, 2018, 11:10:06 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 06, 2018, 10:53:37 AM
Quote from: cuconnacht on July 06, 2018, 10:38:48 AM
Totm2y.
A backdoor nothing game set by the boards favourite blatherer(Din himself)and just shy of the quota 1st count(100 at T.I).Nearly sure that was more than last years AI final or year befores!
Ominous I thought.It meant media maelstrom and with us involved,never a good ending for us.Disapointed with us not backing up the lillies once the game was TV guarenteed,money's I suppose?
Cribben and Co roped and branded the Men of the Heather all day,shades of Rainbow,Buckley and the Short Grass a '98'.Hope this the efforts of great minors and u21s of last 8/9 years coming through for ye.Anyway as the 'Boss said to Sully' with last words in the Road to Perdition, "I'm glad it was you Micheal".Most of mine are of same towards Cill Dara and tip our hat so accordingly.Glad it was.(except Dinny,7daysof stale croissants for him ;) abandoning ship and Mayo comp) ;D. Besides us Westies have still got the Connies and Donnies.
Props to of all things Sky :o (gasp)a live game from Newbridge when those fkn alps national broadcasters not once in their lazy arsed freeloading history!
f**k me the board is getting worse. Has seafoid's illness become contagious?
What do you add to the board anyway?
Nothing, the same as everyone else. It's a bit precious to consider yourself so enlightened that you "add" something to the echo chamber that is gaaboard. It's largely a collection of individuals giving there unqulified opinion but I would prefer if those opinions were at least manufactured into intelligible sentences.
It will make the 100 pages yet, a great obituary to the rhubarbs.
Quote from: cuconnacht on July 06, 2018, 10:38:48 AM
Totm2y.
A backdoor nothing game set by the boards favourite blatherer(Din himself)and just shy of the quota 1st count(100 at T.I).Nearly sure that was more than last years AI final or year befores!
Ominous I thought.It meant media maelstrom and with us involved,never a good ending for us.Disapointed with us not backing up the lillies once the game was TV guarenteed,money's I suppose?
Cribben and Co roped and branded the Men of the Heather all day,shades of Rainbow,Buckley and the Short Grass a '98'.Hope this the efforts of great minors and u21s of last 8/9 years coming through for ye.Anyway as the 'Boss said to Sully' with last words in the Road to Perdition, "I'm glad it was you Micheal".Most of mine are of same towards Cill Dara and tip our hat so accordingly.Glad it was.(except Dinny,7daysof stale croissants for him ;) abandoning ship and Mayo comp) ;D. Besides us Westies have still got the Connies and Donnies.
Props to of all things Sky :o (gasp)a live game from Newbridge when those fkn alps national broadcasters not once in their lazy arsed freeloading history!
What did I do to upset this native? FFS my grandmother was an O'Malley from Tubber Hill in Westport. No pleasing some people.
Are we there yet?
Are we there yet?
Are we there yet?
Yeeeeeeaaaaaassss 100 pages.
Quote from: LooseCannon on July 07, 2018, 12:35:29 AM
Are we there yet?
Yeeeeeeaaaaaassss 100 pages.
;D :D ;D
The midnight Faithful deliver.
+1.
Catharsis !
Good luck to all today.