ENGLAND for me.
It would be amazing for our domestic game if we can do it.
With Stevie and Lamps bossing the centre, Jags and Joles shutting out opposition attacks, and Roo-mania rampant, we'll be living it up in Rio like Ronnie Biggs.
I know all four home nations will be getting behind our British Isles representatives.
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Argentina or Germany.
Ze Germans for me.
Have 20 on them at 12/1 from last year. Had a great trip to Cologne last weekend and Berlin prior to Poznan last summer, sound bunch of lads.
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 10:49:55 AM
ENGLAND for me.
It would be amazing for our domestic game if we can do it.
With Stevie and Lamps bossing the centre, Jags and Joles shutting out opposition attacks, and Roo-mania rampant, we'll be living it up in Rio like Ronnie Biggs.
I know all four home nations will be getting behind our British Isles representatives.
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"our domestic game" "our British Isles representatives" and a Union Jack Smiley. You wouldn't be trolling by any chance, would ya?
England. England win = domestic tranquility. England lose = several days of thunder. Losing to Germany in the last World Cup = Hurricane Katrina.
Wobbler and I will be supporting Belgium. ;)
Belgium would be a dark horse, def worth a ew bet. Columbia and Chile I think could do well. Would have Bazil and the Germans as favs.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 17, 2013, 10:59:20 AM
"our domestic game" "our British Isles representatives" and a Union Jack Smiley. You wouldn't be trolling by any chance, would ya?
What would you class as our domestic game?
There is no league in this country. They're not my words, but the words of the man who managed the Irish international team from 2008 to 2013.
I hope Brazil win it on home soil. I like all the South American teams though. Easily the most entertaining teams to watch at every world cup. At the last world cup I couldn't get enough of watching Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay. It's refreshing to see the beautiful game as it was intended.
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 11:30:45 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 17, 2013, 10:59:20 AM
"our domestic game" "our British Isles representatives" and a Union Jack Smiley. You wouldn't be trolling by any chance, would ya?
What would you class as our domestic game?
There is no league in this country. They're not my words, but the words of the man who managed the Irish international team from 2008 to 2013.
All those League of Ireland games I've been to must have been a figment of my imagination.
I will support Engerland and hope that Woy comes out with another pseudo racist comment that the Press can brush under the carpet, if only Luis had called Evra a monkey instead of a nigger.
Quote from: OakleafCounty on October 17, 2013, 11:35:42 AM
All those League of Ireland games I've been to must have been a figment of my imagination.
That's a relief. Now I can pretend that the Blues are not crap!
Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2013, 11:44:47 AM
I will support Engerland and hope that Woy comes out with another pseudo racist comment that the Press can brush under the carpet, if only Luis had called Evra a monkey instead of a nigger.
Just as well he didn't say 'mono', then he'd really be in trouble!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2013, 11:44:47 AM
I will support Engerland and hope that Woy comes out with another pseudo racist comment that the Press can brush under the carpet, if only Luis had called Evra a monkey instead of a nigger.
Those that have a problem with Roy' Hodgson are the real racists and trivialise a problem that England, more than any other European country, has been to the forefront of dealing with.
Argentina. Engerland to flop again.
Supporting England? This is obviously a wind-up?
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
Supporting England? This is obviously a wind-up?
Why would you not support your nearest participating neighbours?
It's no different to, say, a Roscommon person supporting Mayo, or a Limerick person supporting Clare in an All-Ireland final.
I'm glad England are there. The inevitable meltdown and fallout is great entertainment....must be what it's like for other counties looking at Mayo... :P
Seriously though, England are going to get destroyed out there. I'll be on my hands and knees hoping we get drawn in same group as England on 23rd February for Euro 2016.
England,Ireland,Slovenia,Armenia,Iceland and Gibraltar(going to be in it) would be a lovely group with some cracking away trips.
Quote from: ballinaman on October 17, 2013, 12:27:31 PM
I'm glad England are there. The inevitable meltdown and fallout is great entertainment....must be what it's like for other counties looking at Mayo... :P
Seriously though, England are going to get destroyed out there. I'll be on my hands and knees hoping we get drawn in same group as England on 23rd February for Euro 2016.
England,Ireland,Slovenia,Armenia,Iceland and Gibraltar(going to be in it) would be a lovely group with some cracking away trips.
Let's hope that the Irish will be able to deal with any shots fired at them in Gibraltar in the away match, unlike in the past.
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
Supporting England? This is obviously a wind-up?
Why would you not support your nearest participating neighbours?
It's no different to, say, a Roscommon person supporting Mayo, or a Limerick person supporting Clare in an All-Ireland final.
Its very different.
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:36:30 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
Supporting England? This is obviously a wind-up?
Why would you not support your nearest participating neighbours?
It's no different to, say, a Roscommon person supporting Mayo, or a Limerick person supporting Clare in an All-Ireland final.
Its very different.
Why?
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:36:30 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
Supporting England? This is obviously a wind-up?
Why would you not support your nearest participating neighbours?
It's no different to, say, a Roscommon person supporting Mayo, or a Limerick person supporting Clare in an All-Ireland final.
Its very different.
It's the same thing - which is why no Irish person in their right mind should be cheering for England.
For want of a better work I would "support" Argentina usually in the WCs. Not too pushed who wins it as long as Holland don't. Arrogant arrogant nation.
Don't despise England like many on this island. Actually like many of their players .
If Argentina is good enough for the Pope then we should row in behind them.
Think it would be great if Argentina won in Brazil.
Usually look out for the team that the United lads are playing for so Mexico and Belgium will be of interest. England is always a soap opera though their limitations may actually be a strength (they can't really believe they'll win it this time, surely?).
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:36:30 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
Supporting England? This is obviously a wind-up?
Why would you not support your nearest participating neighbours?
It's no different to, say, a Roscommon person supporting Mayo, or a Limerick person supporting Clare in an All-Ireland final.
Its very different.
Why?
Try 800 years, dude.
As much as I dislike Tyrone, they only beat us in a few games of football. Same with any GAA rivalry. Its so much more where England are involved.
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 17, 2013, 12:59:49 PM
England is always a soap opera though their limitations may actually be a strength (they can't really believe they'll win it this time, surely?).
Slim, none, etc.
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 01:04:36 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 17, 2013, 12:27:31 PM
I'm glad England are there. The inevitable meltdown and fallout is great entertainment....must be what it's like for other counties looking at Mayo... :P
Seriously though, England are going to get destroyed out there. I'll be on my hands and knees hoping we get drawn in same group as England on 23rd February for Euro 2016.
England,Ireland,Slovenia,Armenia,Iceland and Gibraltar(going to be in it) would be a lovely group with some cracking away trips.
Let's hope that the Irish will be able to deal with any shots fired at them in Gibraltar in the away match, unlike in the past.
Fcukwit.
+1
Quote from: deiseach on October 17, 2013, 12:51:58 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:36:30 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
Supporting England? This is obviously a wind-up?
Why would you not support your nearest participating neighbours?
It's no different to, say, a Roscommon person supporting Mayo, or a Limerick person supporting Clare in an All-Ireland final.
Its very different.
It's the same thing - which is why no Irish person in their right mind should be cheering for England.
English people are usually very supportive of Ireland when England are not playing. Clare people generally cheer for Limerick if Clare are not playing, even though Limerick is trying to invade it. Surely you'd cheer for Kilkenny given that Waterford continue to try to invade Kilkenny's sovereign territory, even if out of guilt?
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 01:00:12 PM
Try 800 years, dude.
As much as I dislike Tyrone, they only beat us in a few games of football. Same with any GAA rivalry. Its so much more where England are involved.
What about Scotland and Wales?
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 01:07:49 PM
English people are usually very supportive of Ireland when England are not playing. Clare people generally cheer for Limerick if Clare are not playing, even though Limerick is trying to invade it. Surely you'd cheer for Kilkenny given that Waterford continue to try to invade Kilkenny's sovereign territory, even if out of guilt?
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Quote from: deiseach on October 17, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 01:07:49 PM
English people are usually very supportive of Ireland when England are not playing. Clare people generally cheer for Limerick if Clare are not playing, even though Limerick is trying to invade it. Surely you'd cheer for Kilkenny given that Waterford continue to try to invade Kilkenny's sovereign territory, even if out of guilt?
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Ah here, Star Trek FFS. No need for that.
Quote from: deiseach on October 17, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 01:07:49 PM
English people are usually very supportive of Ireland when England are not playing. Clare people generally cheer for Limerick if Clare are not playing, even though Limerick is trying to invade it. Surely you'd cheer for Kilkenny given that Waterford continue to try to invade Kilkenny's sovereign territory, even if out of guilt?
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Where's Olly?
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 01:12:01 PM
This probably doesn't help either...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOhQp8ENmzs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOhQp8ENmzs)
I wouldn't get too worked up over a bunch of pissed up insurance salesmen acting the yob in Dublin considering what the Irish have done in English cities.
When played in the Americas it's usually a team from there, so any betting should be placed on the locals, Brazil and Argentina being the obvious ones.
Hopefully England get put out in the second round as they normally get through the first stage, just
England can go f**k, shower of arrogant, hateful bastards. Hope they get put in Germany`s group and get mauled to pieces
I`ll be going for Argentina. They will be the best to watch with Messi and Aguero up top - frightening partnership when on form
I love the World Cup. Always have. Even when I was jaded of soccer, I still loved watching the big international tournaments, and the World Cup reminds me of summer evenings watching Rossi, Zico, Platini, Rummenige, Mattheus, Robson, Socrates, Zoff and hundreds of others.
I normally prefer when Ireland are not involved because I don't get nervous about their games, so I'll be looking forward to Brazil hugely.
As with most soccer fans, I have a soft spot for Brazil, when they are expressing themselves. During the mid 90s especially, they were turned into a dour, professional type unit and the 1994 world cup winners were very dull. I'll be hoping they do well, as the tournament will be all the better for it.
I also always have a soft spot for Italy, despite the fact that they are almost the anti-Brazil in terms of approach sometimes. I still love watching the Azzuri jerseys, that anthem and their passion for the game.
I will also hope Argentina do well, along with a lot of Irish people it seems. I hope it's not a falklands thing :D
Finally, I would love England to do well as well. I like the English players, most of them anyway, and I think their expectation level will be low this time. Of course I hate the S*n type media who will be insufferable, but most English people I know and work with are A1. I hope they have a great tournament.
Glad England qualified and that the Bogside Inn has reopened as its always decked in the colours of England's opponents which is good craic. More interest with England there, the usual build up, then balls up.
Will be interesting to see how Belgium get on. Would be surprised if the Geeeeeeeeeeemans dont win it. Usually come close with teams not near the same level as what they have at their disposal now.
Will be supporting whatever country Saurez plays for
This was some goal by Argentina in 06 WC,.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5W6vBI3mGE
Knocked out in the Quarters which was a pity. Messi has yet to score a goal in the WC asaik
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 17, 2013, 02:02:46 PM
This was some goal by Argentina in 06 WC,.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5W6vBI3mGE
Knocked out in the Quarters which was a pity. Messi has yet to score a goal in the WC asaik
Lovely goal, but should be called a 7 pass goal rather than a 25 pass goal. For the first 18 passes they went precisely nowhere.
Apart from the excitement of some Ireland games I'm still waiting on a World Cup to surpass 82 and 86.
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 17, 2013, 02:02:46 PM
This was some goal by Argentina in 06 WC,.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5W6vBI3mGE
Knocked out in the Quarters which was a pity. Messi has yet to score a goal in the WC asaik
Goal against Argentina, one pass, much better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs)
Yeah that was an unbelievable goal. Suppose the Argie goal was more about team play. The commentator didn't get to excited about the Bergkamp finish. :)
Have Uruguay qualified yet or are they likely to?
Quote from: johnneycool on October 17, 2013, 02:42:54 PM
Have Uruguay qualified yet or are they likely to?
Think they have to play Michael Jordan in a playoff.
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 17, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
Yeah that was an unbelievable goal. Suppose the Argie goal was more about team play. The commentator didn't get to excited about the Bergkamp finish. :)
If it was Giles he would have said: "I don't know too much about Bergamasco Bill, but Ireland were terrible".
Goal for Argentina, one pass, better again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfjtwxivKjc
Quote from: deiseach on October 17, 2013, 02:53:47 PM
Goal for Argentina, one pass, better again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfjtwxivKjc
Dutch goal agin West Germany, 2 passes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owguR0ITIfU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owguR0ITIfU) (bonus analysis - some giving out - by Jack Charlton)
Ah, commentary down a phone line. There's a part of me that seriously thinks all international/European games should be broadcast this way.
I love this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM_Htb3IVnE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM_Htb3IVnE)
I'll be supporting be supporting England.
I hope England do well but they usually struggle to keep the ball and the game has changed a lot since the 80's and 90's when England were serious contenders at these tournaments(could well have won in '90 and'96).
I hope the ball is better this time too. The Jabulani seemed to be a problem in South Africa and a lot of the top players flopped. The Brazuca will be unveiled soon and hopefully they won't try to be too clever with it.
Quote from: Orior on October 17, 2013, 03:40:45 PM
I'll be supporting be supporting England.
Wazza, Terry, Cashley Cole et al..how could ye support a team with those clampetts in it?
I won't really be supporting anyone but will watch it with interest. I think zee Germans will win it. I hope and indeed think England will be raped a couple of times before coming home depressed as usual. Always good fun watching them crash and burn ;D
First round matches are at 5, 8 and 11pm our time.
First match is on a Thursday.
Quote from: EC Unique on October 17, 2013, 04:43:59 PM
I won't really be supporting anyone but will watch it with interest. I think zee Germans will win it. I hope and indeed think England will be raped a couple of times before coming home depressed as usual. Always good fun watching them crash and burn ;D
Used to be a great laugh.
No European team has ever won the World cup in South American the Germans could change that.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 17, 2013, 06:06:18 PM
No European team has ever won the World cup in South American the Germans could change that.
So could any of the European teams
belgium
Like to see England get to the semis for a laugh.
Semi Finals:
Germany 0 England 0. Germany to win 9-8 on pens
Brazil 5 Argentina 4
Final
Brazil 4 Germany 1
3/4 play-off
Argentina 6 England 0
Tournament darlings: Iceland or Iran
Tournament villains: Ecuador
Tournament flops: Belgium
Top scorer: Suarez
I support Brazil as always, plus hope Holland do well, Like to see england to progress a bit to built up false hopes and the bandwagon rolling, only for it to come crumbling down round the last 8/semi on the biggest nite in fball since 1966, Am just a sadist to inflict football pain on those unsuspecting england football fans who lose the run of themselves before the world cup lol
Argentina seriously underachieved the past two tournaments (a too cautious coach in Germany, and a guy who couldn't coach last time out). If they can get their act together, they'll take it.
I thought they played super football in 06, but met the Germans in the Quarter finals and lost on pens. The last WC, they were poor. Messi has yet to shine in a World Cup, next year at 27 he should click and deliver.
I will probably go for Holland. Always liked them, for no particular reason.
Argies were unlucky in Germany, played some great stuff and narrowly lost to the Krauts. South African WC was f**king shite, a bunch of Dutch hatchet men disgracing the memory of Cruyff and VanBasten nearly won it. T'was scutter.
I used to enjoy the English falling flat on their faces, (Portugese were gas men for tumbling the Saxons back in the day) but of late I've lost my appetite for it. There is too much realism in the press that England don't have players nowadays and are miles behind the football world in terms of development. It's not as much fun seeing them crash and burn when they all see it coming. It's the Irish press that have assumed this mantle of inflated self-worth and bestowed it upon the national team.
Would like to see the Argies do well, had a real nice team in '06, Ayala, Riqueleme, and it was disappointing to see them beat by a technically inferior German side. Would also be backing the Belgians and Uruguayans.
Never cared for the Dutch and really disliked them since 2010, likewise the Italians who have always seemed to do alot with very little. I don't buy into the whole Brazil "joga bonita" thing. T'is like going to a match and supporting the band.
Argentina. Have supported them since 1974 when they had a player called Carlos Babington. Just thought it was a great name!
I wouldn't say I will be supporting them but would like Brazil or Belgium to win. Generally find it hard to get worked up about international football-all the Home nations and Ireland are absolutely brutal to watch. Personally have no great liking or disliking towards England, as a united fan find it strange when people cheer for rooney and co one week and then hope they get beat the next. Anyone know when group draw is being made?
6th December
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 17, 2013, 12:27:31 PM
I'm glad England are there. The inevitable meltdown and fallout is great entertainment....must be what it's like for other counties looking at Mayo... :P
Seriously though, England are going to get destroyed out there. I'll be on my hands and knees hoping we get drawn in same group as England on 23rd February for Euro 2016.
England,Ireland,Slovenia,Armenia,Iceland and Gibraltar(going to be in it) would be a lovely group with some cracking away trips.
Let's hope that the Irish will be able to deal with any shots fired at them in Gibraltar in the away match, unlike in the past.
Arsehole
Quote from: Corner Forward on October 17, 2013, 09:50:21 PM
I wouldn't say I will be supporting them but would like Brazil or Belgium to win. Generally find it hard to get worked up about international football-all the Home nations and Ireland are absolutely brutal to watch. Personally have no great liking or disliking towards England, as a united fan find it strange when people cheer for rooney and co one week and then hope they get beat the next. Anyone know when group draw is being made?
Why's that strange, do you not shout for your county players but when they are in action against your own club shout against them?
Quote from: Zulu on October 17, 2013, 09:59:18 PM
Quote from: Corner Forward on October 17, 2013, 09:50:21 PM
I wouldn't say I will be supporting them but would like Brazil or Belgium to win. Generally find it hard to get worked up about international football-all the Home nations and Ireland are absolutely brutal to watch. Personally have no great liking or disliking towards England, as a united fan find it strange when people cheer for rooney and co one week and then hope they get beat the next. Anyone know when group draw is being made?
Why's that strange, do you not shout for your county players but when they are in action against your own club shout against them?
But the County players are not playing against his club as they didn't qualify.
But you still might shout against county players in a game not involving your own club. What if England were playing Mexico can you not shout for one of them even though both teams would have United players? I don't see the contradiction in shouting against players from the club you support when they are playing with someone else that you have no connection to.
Don't really care who wins but it be nice to see someone other than the usual suspects win. Will be shouting for the underdogs like Bosnia & Herzegovina and the likes.
New Zealand were a great success story at the last World Cup even if they didn't qualify for the 2nd round they still put up a great showing.
Didn't know Iceland had qualified until I saw someone mention it on here.
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
What has "cheering for Rooney" etc got to do with anything?
When you are cheering for Rooney with Man United, you are also cheering for Robin Van Persie and loads of other nationalities. At the same time, you are cheering against Lampard, Gerrard etc.
I cheer for England because we are far more culturally similar to them than to any other country and because of the huge enjoyment the Barclays Premier League™ gives me.
Quote from: Jonah on October 17, 2013, 10:42:24 PM
Didn't know Iceland had qualified until I saw someone mention it on here.
They haven't yet.
I married into a Spanish family so I have a decent chance of a few good excuses to got to the pub at unusual hours.
I live in England and I generally don't equate their football team with any historic or nationalist issues. I don't mind how they do and for the pleasure it gives many of my English friends I am happy for them to do well.
I often get people having a go at my patriotism for not supporting the Rep. of Ireland football team. They are just a team in a sport I have little more than a passing interest in. I don't take interest in athletics or equestrian sports either but no one questions it then. I wish them well because they are Irish naturally.
As for English football. Probably by the time the world cup rolls around the media will have hung Roy Hodgeson and it didn't take long with is 'racist' non-event.
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
What has "cheering for Rooney" etc got to do with anything?
When you are cheering for Rooney with Man United, you are also cheering for Robin Van Persie and loads of other nationalities. At the same time, you are cheering against Lampard, Gerrard etc.
I cheer for England because we are far more culturally similar to them than to any other country and because of the huge enjoyment the Barclays Premier League™ gives me.
You're just a fcukwit.
Why? Do you not think they're valid reasons for supporting England?
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 11:24:44 PM
Firstly, no, I dont think those reasons are very valid.
Secondly, that's not the reason I call you a fcukwit.
Why aren't they valid?
Does your reason for hating England amount to anything more than a hatred of English people?
Quote from: thejuice on October 17, 2013, 11:21:34 PM
I married into a Spanish family so I have a decent chance of a few good excuses to got to the pub at unusual hours.
I live in England and I generally don't equate their football team with any historic or nationalist issues. I don't mind how they do and for the pleasure it gives many of my English friends I am happy for them to do well.
I often get people having a go at my patriotism for not supporting the Rep. of Ireland football team. They are just a team in a sport I have little more than a passing interest in. I don't take interest in athletics or equestrian sports either but no one questions it then. I wish them well because they are Irish naturally.
As for English football. Probably by the time the world cup rolls around the media will have hung Roy Hodgeson and it didn't take long with is 'racist' non-event.
Be careful though, I was called a hun for having a go at Celtic, sorry he posted that I was worse than a hun :-[
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
What has "cheering for Rooney" etc got to do with anything?
When you are cheering for Rooney with Man United, you are also cheering for Robin Van Persie and loads of other nationalities. At the same time, you are cheering against Lampard, Gerrard etc.
I cheer for England because we are far more culturally similar to them than to any other country and because of the huge enjoyment the Barclays Premier League™ gives me.
The English, like Protestants in the North, don't have a culture.
I dont understand why anyone from Ireland would support England.
No one talking up Spain at all? Surely they would be seen as likely to make the last 4 and should be dangerous from there.
Brazil will be good. Argentina in Brazil will be good. Germany and Italy will do what they always do and get to the latter stages. Holland won't. Belgium might cause a surprise or two but you don't come from nowhere to winning World Cup in another continent.
Last 4 Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy/Argentina.
Last 2 Brazil Spain.
Winner Brazil.
I love watching the Germans at the big tournaments.
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 11:39:44 PM
The English, like Protestants in the North, don't have a culture.
Whoah. Flesh that out a bit there.
Does Ireland have a culture?
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 11:41:51 PM
They like fish & chips and so does Sidney.
Do you like fish and chips or would you avoid them for fear of becoming culturally less pure? If you don't like them purely on the basis that you don't like the taste, would you respect the right of other Irish people to eat fish and chips?
Quote from: Sidney on October 18, 2013, 12:11:38 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 11:39:44 PM
The English, like Protestants in the North, don't have a culture.
Whoah. Flesh that out a bit there.
Does Ireland have a culture?
Yes.
Here is your national anthem in your own language
(to the air of GSTQ)
Owa tana siam
Owa tana siam
I Yamut wit
Owa Taphoo Lamai
Owa Taphoo Lamai
Owas tana siam
Owa tash height
(With apologies to Ronnie Barker)
Quote from: muppet on October 17, 2013, 11:51:13 PM
No one talking up Spain at all? Surely they would be seen as likely to make the last 4 and should be dangerous from there.
Brazil will be good. Argentina in Brazil will be good. Germany and Italy will do what they always do and get to the latter stages. Holland won't. Belgium might cause a surprise or two but you don't come from nowhere to winning World Cup in another continent.
Last 4 Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy/Argentina.
Last 2 Brazil Spain.
Winner Brazil.
Argentina are a lot better than Italy. The Argies won't have Diego dragging them back this time.
Quote from: Capt Pat on October 18, 2013, 02:01:12 AM
Quote from: muppet on October 17, 2013, 11:51:13 PM
No one talking up Spain at all? Surely they would be seen as likely to make the last 4 and should be dangerous from there.
Brazil will be good. Argentina in Brazil will be good. Germany and Italy will do what they always do and get to the latter stages. Holland won't. Belgium might cause a surprise or two but you don't come from nowhere to winning World Cup in another continent.
Last 4 Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy/Argentina.
Last 2 Brazil Spain.
Winner Brazil.
Argentina are a lot better than Italy. The Argies won't have Diego dragging them back this time.
They sent a great side in '06 and were beaten in the Q-F by a middling Kraut side. The Krauts has a great side defeated by a Italian team in serious transition at the last Euro's. Guessing the Semi-finalists on current form is piss, there'll be a outsider in there. Sure didn't Turkey and South Korea make the semi's in '02.
I would almost guarantee that the Brazilians won't win it without the help of some serious home-town refereeing. They are good enough but I expect them to shit the nest like the last time they hosted it. Nothing short of FIFA pulling some serious moves for them or the ref giving them more than the average share of winners luck will let them claim the 2nd world cup trophy as there own.
Quote from: Hound on October 17, 2013, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 17, 2013, 02:02:46 PM
This was some goal by Argentina in 06 WC,.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5W6vBI3mGE
Knocked out in the Quarters which was a pity. Messi has yet to score a goal in the WC asaik
Lovely goal, but should be called a 7 pass goal rather than a 25 pass goal. For the first 18 passes they went precisely nowhere.
Apart from the excitement of some Ireland games I'm still waiting on a World Cup to surpass 82 and 86.
They were good Hound but 70 was epic. The best finals ever.
Thirty years of hurt
Never stopped me dreaming
That was in 1996
And it never got any better, did it?
I fink it is always the sun wot loses it.
Quote from: Jonah on October 17, 2013, 10:42:24 PM
Don't really care who wins but it be nice to see someone other than the usual suspects win. Will be shouting for the underdogs like Bosnia & Herzegovina and the likes.
New Zealand were a great success story at the last World Cup even if they didn't qualify for the 2nd round they still put up a great showing.
Didn't know Iceland had qualified until I saw someone mention it on here.
They haven't qualified, in the play offs.
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 11:39:44 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
What has "cheering for Rooney" etc got to do with anything?
When you are cheering for Rooney with Man United, you are also cheering for Robin Van Persie and loads of other nationalities. At the same time, you are cheering against Lampard, Gerrard etc.
I cheer for England because we are far more culturally similar to them than to any other country and because of the huge enjoyment the Barclays Premier League™ gives me.
The English, like Protestants in the North, don't have a culture.
I dont understand why anyone from Ireland would support England.
Bitterness aside how can anyone seriously say the English don't have a culture ? Are GAA people in Ireland the only people in the world that have a "culture" ?
Quote from: AQMP on October 17, 2013, 08:44:47 PM
Argentina. Have supported them since 1974 when they had a player called Carlos Babington. Just thought it was a great name!
I remember him alright - for some reason I was fascinated by Robbie Rensenbrink in that WC.
Do folk from Argentina like being called Argies?
Quote from: J OGorman on October 18, 2013, 09:29:03 AM
Do folk from Argentina like being called Argies?
That would be a no. Asked a guy that question from Argentina that I know and he said because it was used by the Birts mostly in a derogatory way around the time of the Falklands War.
Iceland haven't qualified yet.
Quote from: ballinaman on October 18, 2013, 09:35:26 AM
Quote from: J OGorman on October 18, 2013, 09:29:03 AM
Do folk from Argentina like being called Argies?
That would be a no. Asked a guy that question from Argentina that I know and he said because it was used by the Birts mostly in a derogatory way around the time of the Falklands War.
thats what i was thinking..was wondering why so many on here were calling Argentinians, Argies...sort it out Paddys ;)
Anyone know without googling it who were the only father and son to play on the same international team. The son actually came on as a sub for his father.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
Anyone know without googling it who were the only father and son to play on the same international team. The son actually came on as a sub for his father.
Roy Keane and Robbie Keane.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on October 18, 2013, 09:53:11 AM
Iceland haven't qualified yet.
And they won't IMO, as they can only be drawn against France,Portugal,Greece or Ukraine in the playoffs. Slim chance vs Ukraine i suppose as they can be hit and miss.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
Anyone know without googling it who were the only father and son to play on the same international team. The son actually came on as a sub for his father.
Maldini? I think that happened in Milan but I'm not sure if it happened for Italy too.
In answer to the original question- since Ireland aren't there I'll support whomever my money is on.
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
Anyone know without googling it who were the only father and son to play on the same international team. The son actually came on as a sub for his father.
Gudjohnson
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
Anyone know without googling it who were the only father and son to play on the same international team. The son actually came on as a sub for his father.
Subfor Mysonson??
Ill get me coat..
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 18, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
Anyone know without googling it who were the only father and son to play on the same international team. The son actually came on as a sub for his father.
Subfor Mysonson??
Ill get me coat..
:) Gudjohnsen is right. I like the Roy and Robbie answer too though.
Quote from: ballinaman on October 18, 2013, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on October 18, 2013, 09:53:11 AM
Iceland haven't qualified yet.
And they won't IMO, as they can only be drawn against France,Portugal,Greece or Ukraine in the playoffs. Slim chance vs Ukraine i suppose as they can be hit and miss.
They wouldn't fear Greece, France can be erratic as can Portugal. Depends on those countries attitude, they would think the tie was over before it was played,
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 17, 2013, 08:40:12 PM
I will probably go for Holland. Always liked them, for no particular reason.
Maybe because the Dutch love to kick their opponents up and down a pitch like many a good Knockmore man/woman does! ;D
Oh wait a minute it's probably their total football philosophy!! 8)
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 18, 2013, 10:45:04 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 18, 2013, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on October 18, 2013, 09:53:11 AM
Iceland haven't qualified yet.
And they won't IMO, as they can only be drawn against France,Portugal,Greece or Ukraine in the playoffs. Slim chance vs Ukraine i suppose as they can be hit and miss.
They wouldn't fear Greece, France can be erratic as can Portugal. Depends on those countries attitude, they would think the tie was over before it was played,
As France are no longer managed by a madman only Greece would have much of a chance of losing to Iceland.
Quote from: Syferus on October 18, 2013, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 18, 2013, 10:45:04 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 18, 2013, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on October 18, 2013, 09:53:11 AM
Iceland haven't qualified yet.
And they won't IMO, as they can only be drawn against France,Portugal,Greece or Ukraine in the playoffs. Slim chance vs Ukraine i suppose as they can be hit and miss.
They wouldn't fear Greece, France can be erratic as can Portugal. Depends on those countries attitude, they would think the tie was over before it was played,
As France are no longer managed by a madman only Greece would have much of a chance of losing to Iceland.
France are playing some decent football recently. Ribery is the becoming the heartbeat of the team, very reliant on him going forward however. Greece missed out on goal difference to Bosnia, Athens is tough place to go and get a result. Can't see any of the unseeded teams causing an upset in the playoffs on current form.
Most team are generally tough to beat at home, if Iceland had the chance of a return leg against Greece at home for a place in the WC, they would take it.
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 18, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
Most team are generally tough to beat at home, if Iceland had the chance of a return leg against Greece at home for a place in the WC, they would take it.
Would love to see them go through, be a great story. From highlights and match reports they've done well to get as far as they have..ala Estonia a couple of years ago.
Hope we draw them for the Euros...place I'd love to visit.
Be great if they made it alright. Temperatures drop dramatically in Iceland, in November, so that could be a big bonus for them if they had home advantage for second leg.
Iceland played in the European U21 Championship last summer so there was signs of potential there. Main striker is with Ajax, Sigurdsson with Spurs and obviously Eidur Gudjohnsen still playing too.
Quote from: JimStynes on October 18, 2013, 12:04:22 AM
I love watching the Germans at the big tournaments.
You can never write off the Germans. (Can I claim to be the first to say that for the 2014 WC?)
I always support the poorest African team. I havent seen the line up yet but Im pretty sure theres one or two options.
Sad but true.
Quote from: rrhf on October 18, 2013, 03:42:28 PM
I always support the poorest African team. I havent seen the line up yet but Im pretty sure theres one or two options.
Even when Ireland are there? I think you might have taken The Commitments to heart.
Uraguay.
England for 1/4s. Beat Spain with mad deflection at the end of the game to advance to Semi.
Meet Germany in Semi's, Roony spoons peno in penalti kicks after extra time.
Germany meet Uraguay in final. Forlon and Suarez dive for peno's. Both given, both scored.
Two germans sent off for being too blonde and having "Merkel love child" tattoos.
World recession ends.
England talks about what might have been and weep.
USA invade New Zealand for no apparent reason.
Irish work sick days higher during world cup than even when Ireland are playing in it.
The Brazalian versión of that bloody irritating horn thing used during African world cup, is blamed for the death of 2 billion people, but also soothes world hunger figures.
Massive riots in Brazil due to demands for political upheaval. World press concentrates on those dives against the Germans.
Quote from: ballinaman on October 18, 2013, 02:35:15 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 18, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
Most team are generally tough to beat at home, if Iceland had the chance of a return leg against Greece at home for a place in the WC, they would take it.
Would love to see them go through, be a great story. From highlights and match reports they've done well to get as far as they have..ala Estonia a couple of years ago.
Hope we draw them for the Euros...place I'd love to visit.
Greece amassed 25 points from 10 games, scoring 12 goals and conceding 4 - we saw it ourselves in the Aviva; they are seriously defensive. They won't care whether they're home or away first or second - they'll play exactly the same way in both venues - they'll try to score on a counter-attack or from a corner and will make no attempt to build attacks through possession. I can see them being confident of beating anyone they draw in a play-off.
They are very dour, won Euro 04 playing like that. I was at that game in the Aviva, awful game for sure. Still, not like they are all out attack like Portugal or France. They have an ageing player in Karogounis who is still the main man. Samaras up front is a handful but no Ronaldo.
I like Roy Hodgson, seems a decent skin but even at that I'd not like to see England do well. Maybe Argentina or Croatia.
Like a lot of the posters on here - I love seeing the English hype and expectations crushed in these tournaments. Feel slightly different this time however as the media has realistic expectations for once! They are miles behind Spain, Germany, Italy and Holland in Europe in terms of their performances at big tournaments. They've now been passed by Belgium as well! I can't see them making the last 8 and if they do, that's as far as it'll go.
I think a European team is going to win in S American for the first time - Germany for me and they're 5/1 already with all the bookies!!
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
What has "cheering for Rooney" etc got to do with anything?
When you are cheering for Rooney with Man United, you are also cheering for Robin Van Persie and loads of other nationalities. At the same time, you are cheering against Lampard, Gerrard etc.
I cheer for England because we are far more culturally similar to them than to any other country and because of the huge enjoyment the Barclays Premier League™ gives me.
Good to know you're referring to the trademarked Barclays Premier League as opposed to the knock off one.
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2013, 08:48:07 AM
I just think it ridiculous that a common love of fish and chips (for example) would have any bearing on one supporting another national football team.
Why would it?
If any international team is associated with fish and chips, it's Ireland.
Quote from: ballinaman on October 18, 2013, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on October 18, 2013, 09:53:11 AM
Iceland haven't qualified yet.
And they won't IMO, as they can only be drawn against France,Portugal,Greece or Ukraine in the playoffs. Slim chance vs Ukraine i suppose as they can be hit and miss.
They can't draw France as France are second seeds. Croatia are first seeds instead of France.
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2013, 08:30:59 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 11:39:44 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
What has "cheering for Rooney" etc got to do with anything?
When you are cheering for Rooney with Man United, you are also cheering for Robin Van Persie and loads of other nationalities. At the same time, you are cheering against Lampard, Gerrard etc.
I cheer for England because we are far more culturally similar to them than to any other country and because of the huge enjoyment the Barclays Premier League™ gives me.
The English, like Protestants in the North, don't have a culture.
I dont understand why anyone from Ireland would support England.
Bitterness aside how can anyone seriously say the English don't have a culture ? Are GAA people in Ireland the only people in the world that have a "culture" ?
Ah, Shakespeare, Dickens, Orwell and The Beatles would hardly count as culture as far as true gaels are concerned, now.
Quote from: BennyCake on October 17, 2013, 11:39:44 PM
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
What has "cheering for Rooney" etc got to do with anything?
When you are cheering for Rooney with Man United, you are also cheering for Robin Van Persie and loads of other nationalities. At the same time, you are cheering against Lampard, Gerrard etc.
I cheer for England because we are far more culturally similar to them than to any other country and because of the huge enjoyment the Barclays Premier League™ gives me.
The English, like Protestants in the North, don't have a culture.
I dont understand why anyone from Ireland would support England.
Goggled English culture, dung!! I'd say the best they have is the literature and cheese featured heavily ::), though I've always preferred Irish writing i do like a good cheddar ;D
How could you not support England with fans like this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQO5hBLX8y4)
Camera missed the gob the bald lad did by a second you can see him getting it ready...kn**ker
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 08:42:30 PM
Goggled English culture, dung!! I'd say the best they have is the literature and cheese featured heavily ::), though I've always preferred Irish writing i do like a good cheddar ;D
You don't need to have goggles on to appreciate England's magnificent culture.
I don't care enough about any team to get worked up about them. Anyway, it's Brazil's to lose, Neymar to hit a pb of 25 dives a game and win the Fifa golden swan award, hands down
Possibly Netherlands will do well. I voted for them at Euro 2012 and look what happened there, but they have unfinished World Cup business in South America.
England should do better than recent tournaments. And naturally I hope they do well, only in solidarity with the many GAAboard members here who see themselves as diehard fans of english clubs, it will be good to see players from their clubs, Man U/Liverpool/Arsenal do really well on the world stage.
Quote from: Billys Boots on October 18, 2013, 04:39:33 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on October 18, 2013, 02:35:15 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 18, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
Most team are generally tough to beat at home, if Iceland had the chance of a return leg against Greece at home for a place in the WC, they would take it.
Would love to see them go through, be a great story. From highlights and match reports they've done well to get as far as they have..ala Estonia a couple of years ago.
Hope we draw them for the Euros...place I'd love to visit.
Greece amassed 25 points from 10 games, scoring 12 goals and conceding 4 - we saw it ourselves in the Aviva; they are seriously defensive. They won't care whether they're home or away first or second - they'll play exactly the same way in both venues - they'll try to score on a counter-attack or from a corner and will make no attempt to build attacks through possession. I can see them being confident of beating anyone they draw in a play-off.
Greece may be all that but they would be the only team out of the 4 seeds that Iceland would have a slim chance of beating over the 2 legs. It's a question of football styles and Greece's would suit iceland better than the other 3.
Greece have fallen a bit since Karagounis has nearly hit the 40 mark, those 1 nils they have been clocking in the qualifiers, are going to be harder to hold onto.
Bruce Forsyth
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2013, 10:28:32 AM
Quote from: Sidney on October 18, 2013, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2013, 08:48:07 AM
I just think it ridiculous that a common love of fish and chips (for example) would have any bearing on one supporting another national football team.
Why would it?
If any international team is associated with fish and chips, it's Ireland.
So, is it Shakespeare, Dickens or Orwell who makes you like the English national football team?
You like the because they are culturally similar to you, what a load of bollix.
That's just one of the reasons. And they're culturally similar to you, too. Unless you don't speak English, watch their television, read their media, or listen to their music.
I also like to see the English cricket team do well, by the way.
Quote from: ONeill on October 19, 2013, 10:34:19 AM
Bruce Forsyth
You bet. Brucie's just a bonus on top of all that great culture I've already mentioned. If Roy Hodgson plays the generation game, and his young lions play their cards right, England have a great chance of bringing home the cup. It'd be nice to see it, nice.
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2013, 11:11:07 AM
"Christ, that Hey Jude is a blooming good song. Come on England, get stuck into those bleedin' Poles."
We are culturally similar to them, of course, that has never been disputed. That being the reason you support their national football team is total bollix though.
Now for some crumpets.
So, in summary, you think there are no good reasons at all for an Irish person to support England but that there are always good reasons why we should support their opponents?
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2013, 11:23:38 AM
Reasons one might like the English football team;
Tik the marbles outta yer mouth FFS. Remember where you're from.
We may be culturally similar to them, but are they culturally similar to us? After all we're an ethnic group. Are they?
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1569104 (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1569104)
Iceland got Croatia in WC play off draw, France v Ukraine, Greece v Romania, Portugal v Sweden
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12098/8983955/france-draw-ukraine-in-world-cup-qualifying-play-offs
Iceland are home for first leg, Croatia's from hasn't been good in the qualifiers but the second leg in Croatia is a big help and probably will have enough quality. Although Iceland could pull a surprise in the first leg
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 21, 2013, 01:34:49 PM
Iceland got Croatia in WC play off draw, France v Ukraine, Greece v Romania, Portugal v Sweden
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12098/8983955/france-draw-ukraine-in-world-cup-qualifying-play-offs
Iceland are home for first leg, Croatia's from hasn't been good in the qualifiers but the second leg in Croatia is a big help and probably will have enough quality. Although Iceland could pull a surprise in the first leg
Croatia(just),France and Portugal for me. Greece Romania is a toss up.
Quote from: Hardy on October 19, 2013, 12:23:32 PM
We may be culturally similar to them, but are they culturally similar to us? After all we're an ethnic group. Are they?
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1569104 (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1569104)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XQxYAO8zJ7Y/URxR_TcIqGI/AAAAAAAAAMs/71tekfpMal4/s1600/1.gif)
Sweden-Portugal should be good. Zlatan vs Ronaldo.
Would be incredible to see Iceland qualify, hope they can. Croatia nowhere near as good or entertaining without Bilic.
Croatia, France, Sweden, Greece.
that one on the right looks like the Grinch's mother...
So much for Iceland being a handy team for the seeded teams. It wasn't until the second half that Croatia took the lead and won 2-0. After a scoreless first leg in Iceland...
Sweden 2-1 up on Portugal at the min .. 2-2 on ag
Ronaldo hat trick 3-2 ,Portugal..
Something else from Ronaldo tonight, has to be one of the best individual displays at this level.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZdmnuZIUAAXeJr.jpg)
Video of it http://www.joe.ie/football/videos/video-france-up-to-their-old-tricks-again-as-they-score-in-world-cup-play-off-with-dodgy-goal/
Quote from: ballinaman on November 19, 2013, 10:02:38 PM
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C U N T S
Everybody needs to get the f**k over the Henry incident.
Ronaldo is some boy
Quote from: Minder on November 19, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
Ronaldo is some boy
(http://i.imgur.com/TE5p7fb.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/f7Qx0Uo.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/jbSFppU.gif)
An auld Sweeper would have been handy there for Sweden. The Johnny Giles of Sweedish TV will be having a right shot at that back four and how far up they were playing, not once, not twice but three times :-\
Quote from: ross4life on November 19, 2013, 09:27:51 PM
Something else from Ronaldo tonight, has to be one of the best individual displays at this level.
Great finishing from great passes. Kind of display Messi produces quotidien.
Quote from: mouview on November 19, 2013, 11:01:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 19, 2013, 09:27:51 PM
Something else from Ronaldo tonight, has to be one of the best individual displays at this level.
Great finishing from great passes. Kind of display Messi produces quotidien.
8) Going fishing are ya?
2nd goal was savage. That replay doesn't do it justice, timing of the run...touch on with the knee perfectly into his stride, quick look at the goal and then smashes it right in the bottom corner. Class
Quote from: ballinaman on November 19, 2013, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: mouview on November 19, 2013, 11:01:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 19, 2013, 09:27:51 PM
Something else from Ronaldo tonight, has to be one of the best individual displays at this level.
Great finishing from great passes. Kind of display Messi produces quotidien.
8) Going fishing are ya?
2nd goal was savage. That replay doesn't do it justice, timing of the run...touch on with the knee perfectly into his stride, quick look at the goal and then smashes it right in the bottom corner. Class
Yeah 2nd is the pick of them, touch with the knee was savage, never broke his stride.
Quote from: ballinaman on November 19, 2013, 10:02:38 PM
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In fairness, they had a perfectly good goal disallowed a few minutes before the offside goal. Ukraine offered nothing; could easily have been 4 or 5 for France.
England looked desperately poor last night. First touch of all their players seemed to let them down at some stage. Passing poor, lost count of the number of times Gerard in particular gave the ball away in the first half. Cole looked sluggish also until substituted. Wouldn't be surprised if they dont make it past the group stages.
On Ronaldo he may be a great player but he still is a show pony
Quote from: ballinaman on November 19, 2013, 10:31:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 19, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
Ronaldo is some boy
(http://i.imgur.com/TE5p7fb.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/f7Qx0Uo.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/jbSFppU.gif)
Some assists there for the goals. Who played the balls through?
João Moutinho played 1st and 3rd through...not sure the 2nd. He's been surprisingly disappointing since moving to Monaco in the summer.
Quote from: deiseach on October 17, 2013, 11:04:29 AM
England. England win = domestic tranquility. England lose = several days of thunder. Losing to Germany in the last World Cup = Hurricane Katrina.
Oh Jesus.
Portuguese commentary on the hat trick last night is gas....
Turn your speakers or headphones down if you are in work by the way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wdw56k1pqE
he's no sidebottom
Hugo Almeida got the assist for the second goal.
I will be supporting Messi in this world cup and his team Argentina.
England are pure sh1te. The last couple of games, both in wembley, showed them up badly. They will be going to Brazil purely to make up the numbers. Looking forward to the usual collapse and media meltdown.
Quote from: ballinaman on November 19, 2013, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: mouview on November 19, 2013, 11:01:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 19, 2013, 09:27:51 PM
Something else from Ronaldo tonight, has to be one of the best individual displays at this level.
Great finishing from great passes. Kind of display Messi produces quotidien.
8) Going fishing are ya?
2nd goal was savage. That replay doesn't do it justice, timing of the run...touch on with the knee perfectly into his stride, quick look at the goal and then smashes it right in the bottom corner. Class
No, not really. In fairness to Ronaldo he is a brilliant goal-scorer and last night's performance should finally bury the myth that he doesn't produce it in big games. It's just that Messi, particularly of a couple of seasons ago, was producing that kind of display practically on a game-by-game basis; e.g. the 4 goals v Arsenal in the CL 2nd leg, the performance in the 5-0 defeat of Real in the Clasico. He was so good then it was ridiculous.
Anyway, I don't think the World Cup is going to be much good to be honest;
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/zlatan-ibrahimovic-says-world-cup-worth-nothing-without-him-1.1601207
I think it will be brilliant and England will go out in the first round.
Im holding out for Qatar..Septic Blatters legacy
Iran
Come on 'Uruguay, get the teeth into them..
I honestly think they'll do well.
England are terrible! Kyle Walker can't defend for toffee... Cole is past it and their central defence is brittle as well. Midfield all they have is Townsend and possibly Wiltshire that are quality and the rest poor, then Rooney and that's it!
When you think of the German team that beat England it would make you wonder why England get so carried away!
Townsend ? Quality? Based on what exactly? Must be the most headless player ive seen in a long time, he has scored a couple of screamers but is very very wasteful
Quote from: screenexile on November 21, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
England are terrible! Kyle Walker can't defend for toffee... Cole is past it and their central defence is brittle as well. Midfield all they have is Townsend and possibly Wiltshire that are quality and the rest poor, then Rooney and that's it!
When you think of the German team that beat England it would make you wonder why England get so carried away!
Are the English getting so carried away?
My impression is that the penny has finally dropped as to acceptance of where they stand in the hierarchy. I'd have them in about 7th or 8th place of the European qualifiers, not terrible but possibly a good team in the making, in transition.
Quote from: ludermor on November 21, 2013, 02:28:23 PM
Townsend ? Quality? Based on what exactly? Must be the most headless player ive seen in a long time, he has scored a couple of screamers but is very very wasteful
Agreed. Head down all the time....
Watched back the highlights last night of the Germany game. Reus and Götze are a different class. Germany will be in the shake up next summer, the draw could be important though, if the are drawn to play in
Fortaleza or
Manaus, Arena Amazônia up the north where the heat and humidity is mad, their high tempo pressing game could have them fooked after the group stage, legs could be shot.
Quote from: ballinaman on November 21, 2013, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: ludermor on November 21, 2013, 02:28:23 PM
Townsend ? Quality? Based on what exactly? Must be the most headless player ive seen in a long time, he has scored a couple of screamers but is very very wasteful
Agreed. Head down all the time....
Watched back the highlights last night of the Germany game. Reus and Götze are a different class. Germany will be in the shake up next summer, the draw could be important though, if the are drawn to play in Fortaleza or Manaus, Arena Amazônia up the north where the heat and humidity is mad, their high tempo pressing game could have them fooked after the group stage, legs could be shot.
And his diving antics are absolutely Cat.
However, people talking about England getting carried away are off the mark I think. I've never heard the English so downbeat in terms of their chances.
Quote from: screenexile on November 21, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
England are terrible! Kyle Walker can't defend for toffee... Cole is past it and their central defence is brittle as well. Midfield all they have is Townsend and possibly Wiltshire that are quality and the rest poor, then Rooney and that's it!
When you think of the German team that beat England it would make you wonder why England get so carried away!
Don't agree with you re. Townsend. No better than Lennon or Walcott - 1 dimensional, head down and
top defenders at the WC will have him tucked in their back pocket after 5 minutes. He looked good against a couple of poor sides recently.
Totally agree re. England's back 4. They don't have top defenders - Cahill and Jagielka wouldn't get anywhere near a top international squad. The fact that their top pick back 4 come from 3 clubs (Chelsea, Liverpool and Everton) who play such different styles doesn't help them to gel and I'd say any team they meet at the WC would definitely fancy their chances of scoring a couple against them.
At least the English media and public are more realistic in their expectations than usual and this may actually play to their advantage and take the pressure off. Hope not but.
Quote from: screenexile on November 21, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
England are terrible! Kyle Walker can't defend for toffee... Cole is past it and their central defence is brittle as well. Midfield all they have is Townsend and possibly Wiltshire that are quality and the rest poor, then Rooney and that's it!
When you think of the German team that beat England it would make you wonder why England get so carried away!
They have been booed off in their last two games.
If that is getting carried away, I'd hate to see them despondent.
The Belgians have been in poor form of late beaten at home 3-2 by Japan on Tuesday and 2-0 last week by Columbia, although Columbia were very impressive in Qualifying and I would expect them to well at the WC. Japan are decent and have some quality players like Honda, Kawaga,. Would still have expected Belguim to have enough at home with the players they have.
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 21, 2013, 05:32:07 PM
The Belgians have been in poor form of late beaten at home 3-2 by Japan on Tuesday and 2-0 last week by Columbia, although Columbia were very impressive in Qualifying and I would expect them to well at the WC. Japan are decent and have some quality players like Honda, Kawaga,. Would still have expected Belguim to have enough at home with the players they have.
It might mean something then again it mightn't. They might be the just the games played after the lord mayor's show.
Colombia have a very good team, they are one of the seeds along with Belgium in the WC draw.
Quote from: Main Street on November 21, 2013, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 21, 2013, 05:32:07 PM
The Belgians have been in poor form of late beaten at home 3-2 by Japan on Tuesday and 2-0 last week by Columbia, although Columbia were very impressive in Qualifying and I would expect them to well at the WC. Japan are decent and have some quality players like Honda, Kawaga,. Would still have expected Belguim to have enough at home with the players they have.
It might mean something then again it mightn't. They might be the just the games played after the lord mayor's show.
Colombia have a very good team, they are one of the seeds along with Belgium in the WC draw.
Yeah Columbia are ranked 4th in the World, the Belgians in 5th. Nothing much in it. Suppose when they were missing a player like Kompany it didn't help matters either for the 2 games.
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 21, 2013, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 21, 2013, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: ludermor on November 21, 2013, 02:28:23 PM
Townsend ? Quality? Based on what exactly? Must be the most headless player ive seen in a long time, he has scored a couple of screamers but is very very wasteful
Agreed. Head down all the time....
Watched back the highlights last night of the Germany game. Reus and Götze are a different class. Germany will be in the shake up next summer, the draw could be important though, if the are drawn to play in Fortaleza or Manaus, Arena Amazônia up the north where the heat and humidity is mad, their high tempo pressing game could have them fooked after the group stage, legs could be shot.
And his diving antics are absolutely Cat.
However, people talking about England getting carried away are off the mark I think. I've never heard the English so downbeat in terms of their chances.
Don't worry. In the weeks leading up to the WC they will soon perk up.
With Roy Hodgson as manager its doubtful if they can perk anything up. According to Greg Dyke the target is to win the World Cup in 2022.
From what I can see pretty much all of England are agreed that their team is poor. No way they are getting "carried away ". Qualifying imo is what they wanted.
Now Ireland before the Euros in Poland WAS getting carried away.
Live draw at 4.30, bbc 2.
Great stuff. The world cup starts today!
It's a toss-up between this thread and the WTF thread for this!!
QuoteBrazil 2014: World Cup draw explained
The process of deciding who plays who at next year's World Cup is a complex one, so let's try and simplify it ahead of today's draw in Costa do Sauipe in the Brazilian state of Bahia.
The 32 qualified countries will be split into four pots, and drawn into eight groups each containing four teams.
Pot One is the top seeds: Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Uruguay, Spain, Germany, Belgium and Switzerland.
Pot Two contains the unseeded South American countries and the qualifiers from Africa: Algeria, Cameroon, Chile, Ivory Coast, Ecuador, Ghana and Nigeria.
Pot Three is the teams from North and Central America plus Asia: Australia, Costa Rica, Honduras, Iran, Japan, South Korea, Mexico, United States.
Pot Four contains the nine unseeded European teams: Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, England, France, Greece, Italy, Holland, Portugal, Russia.
At the start of the draw, one European team from Pot Four will be selected at random and added to Pot Two to make it eight countries in each pot.
The four seeded South American teams will be put into a temporary pot (Pot X) and the European team from Pot Two will be drawn in the same group as one of them.
The draw will then proceed with Pot One being emptied and the teams allocated to position one in the Groups A-H in turn.
Pots Two, Three and Four will then be emptied in order but no South American teams can be in the same group, and a maximum of two European teams are permitted per group.
Teams from Pots Two, Three and Four will have their positions in the group drawn randomly.
Live coverage of the draw for the FIFA World Cup 2014 from 1635 on RTÉ Two and RTÉ.ie (RoI only).
Uruguay and Luis Suarez all the way ;D
Well there's no 'group of death' this time.
How long before they start referring to it as the group of death. Group A and B look tasty - group E hardest to call maybe??
Lots of talking points here!
England must be in the group of serious illness. Uruguay and Italy. Ouch. The BBC commentator nearly choked on his bile when France came out in the next group :)
Is Englands game V Italy in the Amazon with 99% humidity or something like that!
Some reaction on BBC for England,
Full draw and fixture list http://t.co/On6qaZxPIk
Quote from: CD on December 06, 2013, 05:20:06 PM
How long before they start referring to it as the group of death. Group A and B look tasty - group E hardest to call maybe??
Lots of talking points here!
Well it took us around 20 minutes!!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/group-of-death-awaits-england-616436.html
http://www.independent.ie/sport/england-drawn-in-world-cup-group-of-death-29816696.html
Quote from: Bingo on December 06, 2013, 05:22:52 PM
Is Englands game V Italy in the Amazon with 99% humidity or something like that!
Yep. Brasilans go there for their winter holidays.
Quote from: Zulu on December 06, 2013, 05:50:09 PM
Quote from: CD on December 06, 2013, 05:20:06 PM
How long before they start referring to it as the group of death. Group A and B look tasty - group E hardest to call maybe??
Lots of talking points here!
Well it took us around 20 minutes!!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/group-of-death-awaits-england-616436.html
http://www.independent.ie/sport/england-drawn-in-world-cup-group-of-death-29816696.html
Brilliant!!
Group of Death?? I'd say Group B - Spain, Netherlands, Chile and Australia was a far tougher group than Englerlund's
Group E, France, Switz, Honduras, Ecuador is the Group of Dearth.
France got lucky again with the draw.
The Germans got Portugal, Ghana and the USA. Another group to be called the group of death Ghana got to the quarter final last time before losing on penalties I think against Uruguay. The Boateng brothers will be playing against each other in the Germany v Ghana match.
Quote from: Bingo on December 06, 2013, 05:15:59 PM
Uruguay and Luis Suarez all the way ;D
There is a high chance he will have played his last game for Liverpool by that stage.
Mixed group for us.
Argentina
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Iran
Nigeria
Tough draw for the chaps in this Moy Park Chickens World Cup 2014 tournament but I'm sure we can come out of the group without too much fuss, although having to deal with the world's finest player in Luis Suarez (the jewel in the Barclays Premier League™ crown) is certainly something to think about.
Particularly looking forward to us setting the record straight in Belo Horizone-ch in the final group match against Costa Roca, after that infamous 1-0 defeat there to the USA in 1950. Newspapers in England mistakenlly thought that result to be 10-1 to England, which was perfectly understandable given that we were by far the best team in the world.
Then it's onwards and upwards with an easy second round draw against one of the minnows of Colombia, Greece, some African team and I can't remember who.
All in all the expeditition is already shaping up to be just as successful as the British Loins' famous civilising mission to South Africa in 1974.
Quote from: Sidney on December 06, 2013, 11:36:58 PM
Tough draw for the chaps in this Moy Park Chickens World Cup 2014 tournament but I'm sure we can come out of the group without too much fuss, although having to deal with the world's finest player in Luis Suarez (the jewel in the Barclays Premier League™ crown) is certainly something to think about.
Particularly looking forward to us setting the record straight in Belo Horizone-ch in the final group match against Costa Roca, after that infamous 1-0 defeat there to the USA in 1950. Newspapers in England mistakenlly thought that result to be 10-1 to England, which was perfectly understandable given that we were by far the best team in the world.
Then it's onwards and upwards with an easy second round draw against one of the minnows of Colombia, Greece, some African team and I can't remember who.
All in all the expeditition is already shaping up to be just as successful as the British Loins' famous civilising mission to South Africa in 1974.
In all seriousness, why do you do that?
Blow for the Colombians ahead of the WC with Falcao needing surgery http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11816/9129965/world-cup-radamel-falcao-could-miss-brazil-tournament-as-he-needs-surgery
Quote from: Sidney on December 06, 2013, 11:36:58 PM
Tough draw for the chaps in this Moy Park Chickens World Cup 2014 tournament but I'm sure we can come out of the group without too much fuss, although having to deal with the world's finest player in Luis Suarez (the jewel in the Barclays Premier League™ crown) is certainly something to think about.
There will be a glut of tickets in Dungannon Sidney !!
http://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/tyrone-news/dungannon-company-secure-world-cup-deal-1-5882304
Quote from: give her dixie on February 18, 2014, 10:27:38 AM
Quote from: Sidney on December 06, 2013, 11:36:58 PM
Tough draw for the chaps in this Moy Park Chickens World Cup 2014 tournament but I'm sure we can come out of the group without too much fuss, although having to deal with the world's finest player in Luis Suarez (the jewel in the Barclays Premier League™ crown) is certainly something to think about.
There will be a glut of tickets in Dungannon Sidney !!
http://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/tyrone-news/dungannon-company-secure-world-cup-deal-1-5882304
There aren't enough free World Cup tickets in the world that would make me consider going to Dungannon.
Iran
See there's a few 'polls' online for England's World Cup squad. Jaysus it's a fairly thin selection...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10497297/World-Cup-2014-England-Squad-Selector-pick-your-23-then-compare-to-our-choices.html
Who d buck are Clyne and Jenkinson?
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 30, 2014, 03:00:42 PM
See there's a few 'polls' online for England's World Cup squad. Jaysus it's a fairly thin selection...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10497297/World-Cup-2014-England-Squad-Selector-pick-your-23-then-compare-to-our-choices.html
I think it's a comfortably better selection than last time and arguably as good and better as most of the squads since 1990. Loads of good, young players there.
I don't believe the right man is in charge, however.
I don't really mind who wins as long as it's not England. I'm confident it won't be though. I think Brazil will win it.
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 30, 2014, 10:33:58 PM
Who d buck are Clyne and Jenkinson?
I thought Jenkinson had declared for Finland; apparently not.
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 01, 2014, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 30, 2014, 10:33:58 PM
Who d buck are Clyne and Jenkinson?
I thought Jenkinson had declared for Finland; apparently not.
I think he played U21 for Finland but then declared for England
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 30, 2014, 10:33:58 PM
Who d buck are Clyne and Jenkinson?
Clyne is the southampton right back and Jenkinson is at Arsenal.
I cant see either of them making the squad
Definitely Argentina. As always. Then Japan and France.
Brazil, then Japan. I would be interested to see how a few of the upcoming teams like Chile or Belgium do. Also hope the USA do well just for the popularity of the sport to improve a little over there.
That wee Neymar tube is putting me off Brasil the year.
Never liked the Brazilian soccer team. Always seemed to lack a bit of balls. Maybe it's the Nordie in me that wants to see them hauling the player down by his shorts in the last-man tackle.
Argentina however, there was a side with a bit of steel to go with the flair. I'd say a fair few could hold their own in a pub brawl.
Uruguay for that sort of stuff.
100 World Cup moments http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26455673
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 02, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
Uruguay for that sort of stuff.
I am not gay for that sort of stuff!! ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNIYob8nC7o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNIYob8nC7o)
Belgium. Seem to have a good bunch of players at the minute,whatever they've been doing at underage level. They are due a bit of success.
Might have to support Holland now. ;)
Argentina, the more matches we see the little genius in the better.
Quote from: yellowcard on May 03, 2014, 12:13:02 AM
Argentina, the more matches we see the little genius in the better.
Nah, I'd rather watch big Ronaldo.
Expected Chile to do well as one of the South American teams, but hearing Vidal could be ruled out through knee surgery, which would be a huge loss for them. Still have Sanchez
World Cup Fact: In 31 games between them at the World Cup Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney and Ibrahimovic have amassed a total of 3 goals! In 11 games at World Cups Landon Donovan has scored 5 goals
Brazil Squad announced, no place for Coutinho or Kaka http://t.co/UlaHzR33XQ
Goalkeepers: Júlio César (Toronto FC), Jéfferson (Botafogo), Victor (Grêmio).
Defenders: Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Roma), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Maxwell (Paris Saint-Germain), David Luiz (Chelsea), Thiago Silva (Paris Saint-Germain), Dante (Bayern Munich), Henrique (Napoli).
Midfielders: Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburg), Paulinho (Tottenham), Ramires (Chelsea), Fernandinho (Manchester City), Oscar (Chelsea), Willian (Chelsea), Hernanes (Internazionale), Bernard (Shakhtar Donetsk).
Forwards: Fred (Fluminense), Neymar (Barcelona), Hulk (Zenit St Petersburg), Jô (Atlético Mineiro).
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 07, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
Brazil Squad announced
Goalkeepers: Júlio César (Toronto FC).
This still amuses me ;D
Brasil has some serious talent.
50 most shocking moments in WC history http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5AbVK-bpwU
England's 23 man squad plus 7 stand-by players to be announced at 2pm today. No Ashley Cole at all and apparently no Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverly or Ashley Young (though these 3 may be on stand-by).
its only when you look through the possible England squad that you see how shit England are.
Quote from: AQMP on May 12, 2014, 12:16:56 PM
England's 23 man squad plus 7 stand-by players to be announced at 2pm today. No Ashley Cole at all and apparently no Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverly or Ashley Young (though these 3 may be on stand-by).
None of them deserve to be in the squad. England are not great but have better options than those guys the way they have played this season.
Quote from: Megaman on May 12, 2014, 12:18:42 PM
its only when you look through the possible England squad that you see how shit England are.
In fairness you will meet very few people in England who will disagree with you. From what I can see anyway there is a realization there that this WC is more to give the younger players a "blooding" with the hope of better to come in the future.
Guaranteed you will still have some posters here harping on about the mythical "hype"/ unrealistic expectatoins etc etc.
My guess at England squad:
Hart, Foster, Forster;
Walker, Johnson, Jones, Smalling, Jagielka, Cahill, Shaw, Baines;
Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gerrard, Lallana, Lampard, Sterling, Barkley, Henderson, Wilshere;
Welbeck, Rooney, Lambert, Sturridge.
They're mad not to take Terry... he's had a better season the Jagielka, Jones and Smalling!
There's no legislating for Uncle Roy. He might bring Jamie Carragher yet! England need to decide what they are doing at this World Cup. If they are trying to win it (I know, I know) then lads like Terry are still the best available at their positions. Ashley Cole would also deserve a spot in the squad you'd imagine on that basis. If not, and they are trying to build for the future, then the likes of Shaw, Walker, Sterling, Wilshere, Sturridge and Llalana should all be starting. By the way, if Llalana signs for Liverpool, I expect the BBC to rename themselves LBC.
A World Cup comes around once every 4 years, the notion that you would use such a tournament to 'build' for the future is nonsensical, you have to take your best squad to go as far as possible.
I suppose what I meant was if they feel their 'best' squad hasn't a hope (which it hasn't) then why not use it to give experience for the Euros and future WCs to the fair few 19,20 and 21 year olds that are on the fringes. You can't beat the experience of playing in a World Cup tournament, apparently, so why 'waste' that experience on older bucks that have no chance?
(Not saying that's what I think, I'd be inclined to bring your strongest squad right now, but that's what I meant by the argument).
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 12, 2014, 01:30:34 PM
I suppose what I meant was if they feel their 'best' squad hasn't a hope (which it hasn't) then why not use it to give experience for the Euros and future WCs to the fair few 19,20 and 21 year olds that are on the fringes. You can't beat the experience of playing in a World Cup tournament, apparently, so why 'waste' that experience on older bucks that have no chance?
(Not saying that's what I think, I'd be inclined to bring your strongest squad right now, but that's what I meant by the argument).
So you're arguing against your own argument....
It wasn't my argument :) I was saying they need to decide either a) or b).
Quote from: Megaman on May 12, 2014, 12:18:42 PM
its only when you look through the possible England squad that you see how shit England are.
Dunno about that. I would go 4-3-3
Hart
Johnson
Cahill
Jagikella
Baines
Milner
Gerrard
Henderson
Sterling
Sturridge
Rooney
Subs (mentionable)
Wilshire
Lalana
Barley
Welbeck
Shaw
Fraser Foster
Ben Foster
Joe Hart
Leighton Baines
Gary Cahill
Phil Jagielka
Glen Johnson
Phil Jones
Luke Shaw
Chris Smalling
Ross Barkley
Steven Gerrard
Jordan Henderson
Adam Lallana
Frank Lampard
James Milner
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
Jack Wilshere
Rickie Lambert
Wayne Rooney
Daniel Sturridge
Raheem Sterling
Danny Welbeck
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 12, 2014, 02:05:13 PM
Fraser Foster
Ben Foster
Joe Hart
Leighton Baines
Gary Cahill
Phil Jagielka
Glen Johnson
Phil Jones
Luke Shaw
Chris Smalling
Ross Barkley
Steven Gerrard
Jordan Henderson
Adam Lallana
Frank Lampard
James Milner
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
Jack Wilshere
Rickie Lambert
Wayne Rooney
Daniel Sturridge
Raheem Sterling
Danny Welbeck
Surprises?? Well Smalling...Lampard.
This squad looks weak at the back and may find itself exploited by any half decent players it comes up against :P. Hart hasn't been at his best either.
To be fair to Hodgson he does seem to have gone mostly for form players, Cahill, Lallana, Henderson, Sterling, Sturridge though he has still picked Rooney and Welbeck ;). Oxlade and Wilshere have both been injured recently.
On the plus side I think Barkley is going to be a really good player and Shaw has a lot of potential though you would think he'll be understudy to Baines at the WC.
In other news Pepe Mel gets the heave-ho from WBA
I missed out on Milner. He goes and Kyle Walker doesn't. Only 7 defenders though I suppose Milner could fill in at right back in an emergency.
AQMP obviously was hoping for no United players to be picked (I'd be happy enough if they got the summer off too) but the 4 picked are well worth their places. People think Smalling is useless because his use of the ball is not so good, especially out wide, but he is an excellent defender with unreal pace.
With Walkers injury and Johnsons form, RB is a problem area for them.
Johnson very lucky to make it, has had a very average season.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 12, 2014, 03:07:42 PM
I missed out on Milner. He goes and Kyle Walker doesn't. Only 7 defenders though I suppose Milner could fill in at right back in an emergency.
AQMP obviously was hoping for no United players to be picked (I'd be happy enough if they got the summer off too) but the 4 picked are well worth their places. People think Smalling is useless because his use of the ball is not so good, especially out wide, but he is an excellent defender with unreal pace.
Man Utd finished 7th in an average League. Rooney was way off his best, Welbeck is a bona fide tube, Smalling is worse than Welbeck and Jones can do everything except defend.
On the other hand you would be justified in countering "Who else will he pick?". I think that shows that this England squad is pretty thin. I'd also include Lampard as a player who shouldn't be anywhere near the World Cup on current form.
For once the British media are down playing this, rightly so.
Trivia note: The first England World Cup squad since 1954 not to contain a Tottenham Hotspur player
They won the same average league by 11 points a year ago. Rooney clearly had a better season than last season and is England's best player. To suggest he shouldn't be picked is laughable. If the WC was last year should Gerrard have been dropped?
In a funny way the perceived lack of talent in the England squad and the consequent drop in expectations should help them. I think they still have a decent enough squad and with good managment could do ok. Hodgson has got teams well organised in the past and if he can do this there's always a chance they'll score from a set piece (Rooney, Gerrard direct or via good delivery) or a breakaway (Welbeck, Sterling, Sturridge, Ox - serious pace on the break). Just wonder can he get them solid enough defensively. As always it will be interesting.
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
Sturridge will be shown up at the WC I think... playing alongside Suarez made him look much better than he is in my opinion!
Quote from: screenexile on May 12, 2014, 04:22:22 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
Sturridge will be shown up at the WC I think... playing alongside Suarez made him look much better than he is in my opinion!
True I just wouldnt go with Rooney. Over hyped tube. Perhaps Henderson beside Gerrard and Barkley for Lallana. Barkley could be very dangerous closer to goal.
I see the winning 'slogans' that will be painted on the team buses at the world cup have been announced. (How did Roscommon miss that trick?) It's the usual sort of stuff, but Germany's made me double take. Was it on purpose I wonder?
EIN LAND, EINE MANNSCHAFT, EIN TRAUM
Quote from: screenexile on May 12, 2014, 04:22:22 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
Sturridge will be shown up at the WC I think... playing alongside Suarez made him look much better than he is in my opinion!
yeah, he was floundering at the start of the season alright during Suarez's suspension.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
No way will Roy set out that team, he should, as he has nothing to lose. He can play down expectations in a tough group and say he is focused on the future and building a team.
The media will likely buy it as its an English manager and they'll call them Englands Lions or the like.
But I'll expect him to struggle to get a team, even of that set-up, to play off the cuff football with pace and invention. He loves a straight line.
Pretty much nail on the head there Bingo.
Hodgson really must be rueing (sic) the injuries to Walcott and Walker.
Reckon that most of England wouldn't have been too fussed if he had decided to leave Rooney at home.
Have never seen a poorer "on paper" England WC squad than the one chosen tbh.
Quote from: Canalman on May 12, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
Pretty much nail on the head there Bingo.
Hodgson really must be rueing (sic) the injuries to Walcott and Walker.
Reckon that most of England wouldn't have been too fussed if he had decided to leave Rooney at home.
Have never seen a poorer "on paper" England WC squad than the one chosen tbh.
People mightn't like him but he is still England's best player by a distance. He is their 5th highest goalscorer of all time (2 behind Michael Owen with same number of games played) and was instrumental in them qualifying (top scorer in qualifiers with 7). People are clearly on the wind up here but to suggest England do not start Rooney is plain ridiculous, never mind not bring him!!!! Give it up lads.
Walcott is a big loss alright, given the type of game England should play. There is a strong case too than Terry should have been picked but I can see why he was not.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 12, 2014, 05:11:01 PM
Quote from: Canalman on May 12, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
Pretty much nail on the head there Bingo.
Hodgson really must be rueing (sic) the injuries to Walcott and Walker.
Reckon that most of England wouldn't have been too fussed if he had decided to leave Rooney at home.
Have never seen a poorer "on paper" England WC squad than the one chosen tbh.
People mightn't like him but he is still England's best player by a distance. He is their 5th highest goalscorer of all time (2 behind Michael Owen with same number of games played) and was instrumental in them qualifying (top scorer in qualifiers with 7). People are clearly on the wind up here but to suggest England do not start Rooney is plain ridiculous, never mind not bring him!!!! Give it up lads.
Walcott is a big loss alright, given the type of game England should play. There is a strong case too than Terry should have been picked but I can see why he was not.
I'd largely agree on Rooney. When on form and fit, he is a huge player and will score goals. The worry is that, once again going into a tournament, he isn't fully fit. He has time to get ready and I don't think his fitness is a major concern, if United had off been playing for something in last 3 games, he'd likely have played. Apparently he taking a physio on holidays with him before they meet up.
For England, he needs to have a role and that should be closer to the goals. Don't think he needs to be tearing round the field and cover 15km a match for England, as they should have players to do that. If he is fit and plays in the final third, controlling his energy, he should have a decent world cup.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
Interesting selection Walter and not one I'd disagree with too much but there's no way in the world that Hodgson will leave out Rooney. Primary reason is if he sent that team out and they get chinned 3-0 by Italy the media would have him on a spit within 24 hrs!
Can't see England going far. the heat alone will test them - first game against Italy in Manaus , middle of the Amazon. Pirlo to pull the strings again. Giuseppe Rossi is back fit again, after a long spell out, very talented player.
Ghana name a 26 man squad:
Goalkeepers: Adam Kwarasey, Fatau Dauda, Stephen Adams
Defenders: Samuel Inkoom, Daniel Opare, Harrison Afful, Jeffrey Schullp, John Boye, Jonathan Mensah, Jerry Akaminko, Rashid Sumaila
Midfielders: Michael Essien, Rabiu Mohammed, Agyemang Badu, Kwadwo Asamoah, Sulley Muntari, Albert Adomah, Wakasu Mubarak, Christian Atsu, David Accam, André Ayew, Afriyie Acquah
Strikers: Asamoah Gyan, Kevin Prince Boateng, Abdul Majeed Waris, Jordan Ayew
Quote from: AQMP on May 12, 2014, 05:35:41 PM
Ghana name a 26 man squad:
Goalkeepers: Adam Kwarasey, Fatau Dauda, Stephen Adams
Defenders: Samuel Inkoom, Daniel Opare, Harrison Afful, Jeffrey Schullp, John Boye, Jonathan Mensah, Jerry Akaminko, Rashid Sumaila
Midfielders: Michael Essien, Rabiu Mohammed, Agyemang Badu, Kwadwo Asamoah, Sulley Muntari, Albert Adomah, Wakasu Mubarak, Christian Atsu, David Accam, André Ayew, Afriyie Acquah
Strikers: Asamoah Gyan, Kevin Prince Boateng, Abdul Majeed Waris, Jordan Ayew
Love it. I wonder do they say " 'Night john Boye'"
Thats the provisional Ghana Squad
Mexico 23 man Squad named yesterday
Mexico squad
Goalkeepers: Jesus Corona (Cruz Azul), Alfredo Talavera (Toluca), Guillermo Ochoa (AC Ajaccio/FRA)
Defenders: Paul Aguilar, Miguel Layun (both Club America), Hector Moreno (Espanyol/ESP), Diego Reyes (FC Porto/POR), Francisco Rodriguez (Club America), Rafael Marquez (Leon), Carlos Salcido (Tigres)
Midfielders: Hector Herrera (FC Porto/POR), Jose Juan Vazquez (Leon), Juan Carlos Medina (Club America), Carlos Pena (Leon), Isaac Brizuela (Toluca), Luis Montes (Leon), Marco Fabian (Cruz Azul), Andres Guardado (Bayer Leverkusen/GER)
Forwards: Oribe Peralta (Santos Laguna), Javier Hernandez (Manchester United/ENG), Raul Jimenez (Club America), Alan Pulido (Tigres), Giovani dos Santos (Villarreal/ESP)
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 12, 2014, 05:39:08 PM
Thats the provisional Ghana Squad
Mexico 23 man Squad named yesterday
Mexico squad
Goalkeepers: Jesus Corona (Cruz Azul), Alfredo Talavera (Toluca), Guillermo Ochoa (AC Ajaccio/FRA)
Defenders: Paul Aguilar, Miguel Layun (both Club America), Hector Moreno (Espanyol/ESP), Diego Reyes (FC Porto/POR), Francisco Rodriguez (Club America), Rafael Marquez (Leon), Carlos Salcido (Tigres)
Midfielders: Hector Herrera (FC Porto/POR), Jose Juan Vazquez (Leon), Juan Carlos Medina (Club America), Carlos Pena (Leon), Isaac Brizuela (Toluca), Luis Montes (Leon), Marco Fabian (Cruz Azul), Andres Guardado (Bayer Leverkusen/GER)
Forwards: Oribe Peralta (Santos Laguna), Javier Hernandez (Manchester United/ENG), Raul Jimenez (Club America), Alan Pulido (Tigres), Giovani dos Santos (Villarreal/ESP)
Yes, three of them will have to go away, you know ;)
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
barkley as a holding midfielder and no Rooney
On your computer may ey, not a snowballs chance on real life!
Quote from: AQMP on May 12, 2014, 06:13:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 12, 2014, 05:39:08 PM
Thats the provisional Ghana Squad
Mexico 23 man Squad named yesterday
Mexico squad
Goalkeepers: Jesus Corona (Cruz Azul), Alfredo Talavera (Toluca), Guillermo Ochoa (AC Ajaccio/FRA)
Defenders: Paul Aguilar, Miguel Layun (both Club America), Hector Moreno (Espanyol/ESP), Diego Reyes (FC Porto/POR), Francisco Rodriguez (Club America), Rafael Marquez (Leon), Carlos Salcido (Tigres)
Midfielders: Hector Herrera (FC Porto/POR), Jose Juan Vazquez (Leon), Juan Carlos Medina (Club America), Carlos Pena (Leon), Isaac Brizuela (Toluca), Luis Montes (Leon), Marco Fabian (Cruz Azul), Andres Guardado (Bayer Leverkusen/GER)
Forwards: Oribe Peralta (Santos Laguna), Javier Hernandez (Manchester United/ENG), Raul Jimenez (Club America), Alan Pulido (Tigres), Giovani dos Santos (Villarreal/ESP)
Yes, three of them will have to go away, you know ;)
I do, was making sure you did too ;)
Uruguay (in England's group) name an initial 25 man squad:
Goalkeepers: Fernando Muslera (Galatasaray), Martin Silva (Vasco da Gama), Rodrigo Munoz (Libertad)
Defenders: Maximiliano Pereira (Benfica), Diego Lugano (West Bromwich Albion), Diego Godin, Jose Maria Gimenez (both Atletico Madrid), Sebastian Coates (Nacional), Martin Caceres (Juventus), Jorge Fucile (Porto)
Midfielders: Alejandro Silva (Lanus), Alvaro Gonzalez (Lazio), Alvaro Pereira (Sao Paulo), Walter Gargano (Parma), Egidio Arevalo Rios (Morelia), Diego Perez (Bologna), Sebastian Eguren (Palmeiras), Cristian Rodriguez (Atletico Madrid), Gaston Ramirez (Southampton), Nicolas Lodeiro (Botafogo)
Forwards: Luis Suarez (Liverpool), Edinson Cavani (Paris St Germain), Abel Hernandez (Palermo), Diego Forlan (Cerezo Osaka), Christian Stuani (Espanyol)
Lugano is their captain I think, and struggles to get a game at West Brom.
Quote from: AQMP on May 13, 2014, 09:16:44 AM
Uruguay (in England's group) name an initial 25 man squad:
Goalkeepers: Fernando Muslera (Galatasaray), Martin Silva (Vasco da Gama), Rodrigo Munoz (Libertad)
Defenders: Maximiliano Pereira (Benfica), Diego Lugano (West Bromwich Albion), Diego Godin, Jose Maria Gimenez (both Atletico Madrid), Sebastian Coates (Nacional), Martin Caceres (Juventus), Jorge Fucile (Porto)
Midfielders: Alejandro Silva (Lanus), Alvaro Gonzalez (Lazio), Alvaro Pereira (Sao Paulo), Walter Gargano (Parma), Egidio Arevalo Rios (Morelia), Diego Perez (Bologna), Sebastian Eguren (Palmeiras), Cristian Rodriguez (Atletico Madrid), Gaston Ramirez (Southampton), Nicolas Lodeiro (Botafogo)
Forwards: Luis Suarez (Liverpool), Edinson Cavani (Paris St Germain), Abel Hernandez (Palermo), Diego Forlan (Cerezo Osaka), Christian Stuani (Espanyol)
Well well. Hopefully a star in the world cup.
Should that not be Sebastien Coates (Liverpool)? Surely his loan period ends at the end of the season?
Looking at the squads been announced, is England the only country that will have all its players playing in their own domestic league. I'd say Germany not be far off it but they would have a few in England and Spain.
Surely this is another negative for England, and Ireland as well at International level.
The players experience of playing at a different paced game and against different styles would be limited. When they need to make the changes to adapt on the international stage, they are often caught out.
Its amazing really now few England Internationals spread the wings.
The Russian squad just has 1 lad abroad as far as I can make out. And he's from Reading!!
Quote from: Bingo on May 13, 2014, 10:26:04 AM
Looking at the squads been announced, is England the only country that will have all its players playing in their own domestic league. I'd say Germany not be far off it but they would have a few in England and Spain.
Surely this is another negative for England, and Ireland as well at International level.
The players experience of playing at a different paced game and against different styles would be limited. When they need to make the changes to adapt on the international stage, they are often caught out.
Its amazing really now few England Internationals spread the wings.
Maybe because they played in the Greatest League in the Worlddddddddddd and don't feel the need to step down to the lower level leagues...
or maybe because they just are not good enough! But sure it's not like it has helped Wales much over the years!!!!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 13, 2014, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: Bingo on May 13, 2014, 10:26:04 AM
Looking at the squads been announced, is England the only country that will have all its players playing in their own domestic league. I'd say Germany not be far off it but they would have a few in England and Spain.
Surely this is another negative for England, and Ireland as well at International level.
The players experience of playing at a different paced game and against different styles would be limited. When they need to make the changes to adapt on the international stage, they are often caught out.
Its amazing really now few England Internationals spread the wings.
Maybe because they played in the Greatest League in the Worlddddddddddd and don't feel the need to step down to the lower level leagues...or maybe because they just are not good enough! But sure it's not like it has helped Wales much over the years!!!!
At least it isn't for the money that they stay in England ;)
Ince, Owen, Woodgate, Beckham are the most recent and hardly set the world alight. Ince had a decent spell, while Beckham was much the same for his stint in Real.
Hargreaves learned the trade over in Germany and was a good player, only for injuries.
Steve McManaman had a spell with Madrid too
Cameroon named their initial 28 man Squad, to be cut to 23..
Goalkeepers: Charles Itandje (Konyaspor/TUR), Ndy Assembe (Guingamp/FRA), Sammy Ndjock (Fetihespor/TUR), Loic Feudjou (Coton Sport)
Defenders: Allan Nyom (Granada/ESP), Dany Nounkeu (Besiktas/TUR), Cedric Djeugoue (Coton Sport), Aurelien Chedjou (Galatasaray/TUR), Nicolas Nkoulou (Marseille/FRA), Armel Kana-Biyik (Rennes/FRA), Henri Bedimo (Lyon/FRA), Benoit Assou-Ekotto (QPR/ENG), Gaetang Bong (Olympiakos/GRE)
Midfielders: Eyong Enoh (Antalyaspor/TUR), Jean II Makoun (Rennes/FRA), Joel Matip (Schalke 04/GER), Stephane Mbia (Sevilla/ESP), Landry Nguemo (Bordeaux/FRA), Alexandre Song (Barcelona/ESP), Cedric Loe (Osasuna/ESP), Edgar Sally (Lens/FRA)
Forwards: Samuel Eto'o (Chelsea/ENG), Eric Choupo Moting (Mainz/GER), Benjamin Moukandjo (Nancy/FRA), Vincent Aboubakar (Lorient/FRA), Achille Webo (Fenerbahce/TUR), Mohamadou Idrissou (Kaiserslautern/GER), Fabrice Olinga (Zulte-Waregem/BEL)
Quote from: Bingo on May 13, 2014, 10:26:04 AM
Looking at the squads been announced, is England the only country that will have all its players playing in their own domestic league. I'd say Germany not be far off it but they would have a few in England and Spain.
Surely this is another negative for England, and Ireland as well at International level.
The players experience of playing at a different paced game and against different styles would be limited. When they need to make the changes to adapt on the international stage, they are often caught out.
Its amazing really now few England Internationals spread the wings.
Not all their players are "home based" Fraser Forster plays in Scotland.
Spain's Provisional 30 man squad (I reckon Torres got in at no 30!). Maybe a wee bit light in the forwards??
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, David de Gea.
Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Raul Albiol, Juanfran, Jordi Alba, Daniel Carvajal, Alberto Moreno, Cesar Azpilicueta, Javi Martinez.
Midfielders: Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Iniesta, Koke, Busquets, Cazorla, Iturraspe, Fabregas, Thiago, Mata, Silva.
Forwards: Pedro, Navas, Diego Costa, Villa, Torres, Negredo, Llorente.
Some Quality, the clubs they all play for
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Pepe Reina (Napoli), David De Gea (Manchester United)
Defenders: Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea), Gerard Pique (Barcelona), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid) Jordi Alba (Barcelona), Alberto Moreno (Sevilla), Javi Martinez (Bayern Munich), Raul Albiol (Napoli), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid), Dani Carvajal (Real Madrid)
Midfielders: Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), Koke (Atletico Madrid), Ander Iturraspe (Athletic Bilbao), Xavi (Barcelona), Thiago Alcantara (Bayern Munich), Pedro (Barcelona), Jesus Navas (Manchester City), David Silva (Manchester City), Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona), Juan Mata (Manchester United), Santi Cazorla (Arsenal), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona)
Forwards: Diego Costa (Atletico Madrid), David Villa (Atletico Madrid), Alvaro Negredo (Manchester City), Fernando Torres (Chelsea), Fernando Llorente (Juventus)
Quote from: AQMP on May 13, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
Spain's Provisional 30 man squad (I reckon Torres got in at no 30!). Maybe a wee bit light in the forwards??
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, David de Gea.
Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Raul Albiol, Juanfran, Jordi Alba, Daniel Carvajal, Alberto Moreno, Cesar Azpilicueta, Javi Martinez.
Midfielders: Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Iniesta, Koke, Busquets, Cazorla, Iturraspe, Fabregas, Thiago, Mata, Silva.
Forwards: Pedro, Navas, Diego Costa, Villa, Torres, Negredo, Llorente.
The folks in italics are my guesses as to who'll be left at home - any views?
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 13, 2014, 12:22:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 13, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
Spain's Provisional 30 man squad (I reckon Torres got in at no 30!). Maybe a wee bit light in the forwards??
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, David de Gea.
Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Raul Albiol, Juanfran, Jordi Alba, Daniel Carvajal, Alberto Moreno, Cesar Azpilicueta, Javi Martinez.
Midfielders: Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Iniesta, Koke, Busquets, Cazorla, Iturraspe, Fabregas, Thiago, Mata, Silva.
Forwards: Pedro, Navas, Diego Costa, Villa, Torres, Negredo, Llorente.
The folks in italics are my guesses as to who'll be left at home - any views?
I'd say that's pretty close Billy though Azpilicueta may be on the edge.
Feckin embarrassment of riches the Spanish have. Don't think they'll win it though.
I'd be gobsmacked if azpilicueta didn't make the squad,I'd expect him to be 1st choice right back. They could struggle up front,Costa will need to get used to the system of play very quickly,he looked average at Best against Italy. Then you've negredo who's had a quiet 2nd half of the season and villa who's a shadow of his former self.could be a tough tournament for them. Big question is has del bosque the balls to not have xavi in his starting 11?
That's a serious squad they have, they'd fill another squad with players to give many of the other nations a game.
Hard to know how they will gel on this occasion, hard to keep it going tournament year after year. You'd expect them to be better equip than others to play in South American conditions, sure they even have a local striker playing for them!
Quote from: beer baron on May 13, 2014, 12:55:13 PM
I'd be gobsmacked if azpilicueta didn't make the squad,I'd expect him to be 1st choice right back. They could struggle up front,Costa will need to get used to the system of play very quickly,he looked average at Best against Italy. Then you've negredo who's had a quiet 2nd half of the season and villa who's a shadow of his former self.could be a tough tournament for them. Big question is has del bosque the balls to not have xavi in his starting 11?
Agree with this fully. Koke actually needs to be replace him.
I'm gonna put my neck on the line and predict Spain not to get out of the group. It's a tough group. Chile will take them by surprise and Holland will be no pushovers.
Not convinced by Costa. Lot of hype about him but I think he could implode in the land of his father.
Quote from: AQMP on May 12, 2014, 05:24:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
Interesting selection Walter and not one I'd disagree with too much but there's no way in the world that Hodgson will leave out Rooney. Primary reason is if he sent that team out and they get chinned 3-0 by Italy the media would have him on a spit within 24 hrs!
Yeah just went for this for a bit of craic and as you say there is no way he'll not select Rooney for fear of reprisals in the media.
I just think you have to go the Liverpool way if they are to have any chance. England cant retain posession, they dont even play the long ball well but one thing they have in abundance is pace. I'd pick a side to go flat out for 60 mins and replace pace with more pace!!
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 13, 2014, 01:07:55 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 12, 2014, 05:24:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
Interesting selection Walter and not one I'd disagree with too much but there's no way in the world that Hodgson will leave out Rooney. Primary reason is if he sent that team out and they get chinned 3-0 by Italy the media would have him on a spit within 24 hrs!
Yeah just went for this for a bit of craic and as you say there is no way he'll not select Rooney for fear of reprisals in the media.
I just think you have to go the Liverpool way if they are to have any chance. England cant retain posession, they dont even play the long ball well but one thing they have in abundance is pace. I'd pick a side to go flat out for 60 mins and replace pace with more pace!!
I remember when that was "pass and move"
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 13, 2014, 01:12:31 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 13, 2014, 01:07:55 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 12, 2014, 05:24:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
Interesting selection Walter and not one I'd disagree with too much but there's no way in the world that Hodgson will leave out Rooney. Primary reason is if he sent that team out and they get chinned 3-0 by Italy the media would have him on a spit within 24 hrs!
Yeah just went for this for a bit of craic and as you say there is no way he'll not select Rooney for fear of reprisals in the media.
I just think you have to go the Liverpool way if they are to have any chance. England cant retain posession, they dont even play the long ball well but one thing they have in abundance is pace. I'd pick a side to go flat out for 60 mins and replace pace with more pace!!
I remember when that was "pass and move"
I'm not a scouser btw. I mean high intensity pressing playing on the counter.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 13, 2014, 01:12:31 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 13, 2014, 01:07:55 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 12, 2014, 05:24:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Thats what I'd go for although I'd probably have went for Flanagan at RB. Rate him and he can defend.
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Ox Lallana Sterling
Sturridge
They have to go with pace and youth.
Interesting selection Walter and not one I'd disagree with too much but there's no way in the world that Hodgson will leave out Rooney. Primary reason is if he sent that team out and they get chinned 3-0 by Italy the media would have him on a spit within 24 hrs!
Yeah just went for this for a bit of craic and as you say there is no way he'll not select Rooney for fear of reprisals in the media.
I just think you have to go the Liverpool way if they are to have any chance. England cant retain posession, they dont even play the long ball well but one thing they have in abundance is pace. I'd pick a side to go flat out for 60 mins and replace pace with more pace!!
I remember when that was "pass and move"
Now its "slip and slide"
Quote from: AQMP on May 13, 2014, 12:24:54 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 13, 2014, 12:22:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 13, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
Spain's Provisional 30 man squad (I reckon Torres got in at no 30!). Maybe a wee bit light in the forwards??
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, David de Gea.
Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Raul Albiol, Juanfran, Jordi Alba, Daniel Carvajal, Alberto Moreno, Cesar Azpilicueta, Javi Martinez.
Midfielders: Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Iniesta, Koke, Busquets, Cazorla, Iturraspe, Fabregas, Thiago, Mata, Silva.
Forwards: Pedro, Navas, Diego Costa, Villa, Torres, Negredo, Llorente.
The folks in italics are my guesses as to who'll be left at home - any views?
I'd say that's pretty close Billy though Azpilicueta may be on the edge.
I'd think that leaving Azpilicueta at home would be a bad move as he can play in both full-back positions. Looks like Martinez is being brought as a centre-half - unless the distinctions are being made by journalists. Otherwise they've not much choice in that position. Hmmm.
Adnan Januzaj makes the final Belgium squad.
The English media will fall out of love with him now. Did he turn down England officially?
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 13, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
The English media will fall out of love with him now. Did he turn down England officially?
He wasn't eligible to play for England for 5 years anyway
Usa named a 30 man provisional Squad
The 30-man roster
Goalkeepers: Brad Guzan (Aston Villa), Tim Howard (Everton), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake)
Defenders: DaMarcus Beasley (Puebla), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), John Brooks (Hertha Berlin), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Timmy Chandler (Nürnberg), Brad Evans (Seattle Sounders FC), Omar Gonzalez (LA Galaxy), Clarence Goodson (San Jose Earthquakes), Fabian Johnson (Hoffenheim), Michael Parkhurst (Columbus Crew), DeAndre Yedlin (Seattle Sounders FC)
Midfielders: Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Alejandro Bedoya (Nantes), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Joe Corona (Club Tijuana), Brad Davis (Houston Dynamo), Mix Diskerud (Rosenborg), Maurice Edu (Philadelphia Union), Julian Green (Bayern Munich), Jermaine Jones (Besiktas), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City)
Forwards: Jozy Altidore (Sunderland), Terrence Boyd (Rapid Vienna), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders FC), Landon Donovan (LA Galaxy), Aron Johannsson (AZ Alkmaar), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes)
Belguim 24 man Squad
Goalkeepers: Thibaut Courtois (Atletico Madrid, on loan from Chelsea), Simon Mignolet (Liverpool), Koen Casteels (Hoffenheim), Silvio Proto (Anderlecht).
Defenders: Toby Alderweireld (Atletico Madrid), Laurent Ciman (Standard Liege), Nicolas Lombaerts (Zenit St Petersburg), Vincent Kompany (Manchester City), Daniel Van Buyten (Bayern Munich), Anthony Vanden Borre (Anderlecht), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham).
Midfielders: Nacer Chadli, Mousa Dembele (both Tottenham), Steven Defour (Porto), Kevin De Bruyne (Wolfsburg), Marouane Fellaini, Adnan Januzaj (both Manchester United), Eden Hazard (Chelsea), Kevin Mirallas (Everton), Divock Origi (Lille), Axel Witsel (Zenit St Petersburg).
Forwards: Romelu Lukaku (Everton, on loan from Chelsea), Dries Mertens (Napoli).
Standby: Sebastien Pocognoli (Hannover), Radia Nainggolan (Roma), Thorgan Hazard (Zulte Waregem, on loan from Chelsea), Guillaume Gillet (Anderlecht), Michy Batshuayi, Jelle Van Damme (both Standard Liege
Germany play Poland tonight in a friendly but all the main men are missing because of the German cup final. Is there any decent attackers in the squad? I'd only recognise 2 or 3 defenders. I've Germany backed to win it out and wouldn't mind another striker to step up with Gomez not around and klose unlikely to be fit for 90 minutes in any games.
Quote from: beer baron on May 13, 2014, 03:23:21 PM
Germany play Poland tonight in a friendly but all the main men are missing because of the German cup final. Is there any decent attackers in the squad? I'd only recognise 2 or 3 defenders. I've Germany backed to win it out and wouldn't mind another striker to step up with Gomez not around and klose unlikely to be fit for 90 minutes in any games.
A top striker will probably between Germany reaching their customary 1/2 final and winning the thing. Despite being foolish to write off Klose I'd imagine you'll see Schurrle played much closer to goal along with Goetze and Muller. Their style is counter attacking in numbers so doesnt really rely on an out and out striker.
Ivory Coast 28 man Squad,
The squad
Goalkeepers Copa Barry (Lokeren), Gbohouo Sylvain (Sewe Sport), Sayouba Mandé (Stabaek), Badra Ali (ASEC Mimosas).
Defenders Kolo Touré (Liverpool), Bamba Souleyman (Trabzonspor), Jean Daniel Akpa Akpro (Toulouse), Arthur Boka (Stuttgart), Serge Aurier (Toulouse), Brice Dja Djédjé (Marseille), Didier Zokora (Trabzonspor), Benjamin Angoua Brou (Valenciennes), Ousman Vieira (Caykur Rizespor).
Midfielders Cheik Tioté (Newcastle), Yaya Touré (Manchester City), Romaric (Bastia), Max-Alain Gradel (St-Etienne), Ismaël Diomandé (St-Etienne), Didier Ya Konan (Hannover), Constant Djakpa (Eintracht Frankfurt), Geoffroy Serey Dié (Basel).
Strikers Wilfried Bony (Swansea), Didier Drogba (Galatasaray), Gervinho (Roma), Giovanni Sio (Basel), Seydou Doumbia (CSKA Moscow), Lacina Traoré (Monaco), Salomon Kalou (Lille).
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 13, 2014, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 13, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
The English media will fall out of love with him now. Did he turn down England officially?
He wasn't eligible to play for England for 5 years anyway
Usa named a 30 man provisional Squad
The 30-man roster
Goalkeepers: Brad Guzan (Aston Villa), Tim Howard (Everton), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake)
Defenders: DaMarcus Beasley (Puebla), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), John Brooks (Hertha Berlin), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Timmy Chandler (Nürnberg), Brad Evans (Seattle Sounders FC), Omar Gonzalez (LA Galaxy), Clarence Goodson (San Jose Earthquakes), Fabian Johnson (Hoffenheim), Michael Parkhurst (Columbus Crew), DeAndre Yedlin (Seattle Sounders FC)
Midfielders: Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Alejandro Bedoya (Nantes), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Joe Corona (Club Tijuana), Brad Davis (Houston Dynamo), Mix Diskerud (Rosenborg), Maurice Edu (Philadelphia Union), Julian Green (Bayern Munich), Jermaine Jones (Besiktas), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City)
Forwards: Jozy Altidore (Sunderland), Terrence Boyd (Rapid Vienna), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders FC), Landon Donovan (LA Galaxy), Aron Johannsson (AZ Alkmaar), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes)
Belguim 24 man Squad
Goalkeepers: Thibaut Courtois (Atletico Madrid, on loan from Chelsea), Simon Mignolet (Liverpool), Koen Casteels (Hoffenheim), Silvio Proto (Anderlecht).
Defenders: Toby Alderweireld (Atletico Madrid), Laurent Ciman (Standard Liege), Nicolas Lombaerts (Zenit St Petersburg), Vincent Kompany (Manchester City), Daniel Van Buyten (Bayern Munich), Anthony Vanden Borre (Anderlecht), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham).
Midfielders: Nacer Chadli, Mousa Dembele (both Tottenham), Steven Defour (Porto), Kevin De Bruyne (Wolfsburg), Marouane Fellaini, Adnan Januzaj (both Manchester United), Eden Hazard (Chelsea), Kevin Mirallas (Everton), Divock Origi (Lille), Axel Witsel (Zenit St Petersburg).
Forwards: Romelu Lukaku (Everton, on loan from Chelsea), Dries Mertens (Napoli).
Standby: Sebastien Pocognoli (Hannover), Radia Nainggolan (Roma), Thorgan Hazard (Zulte Waregem, on loan from Chelsea), Guillaume Gillet (Anderlecht), Michy Batshuayi, Jelle Van Damme (both Standard Liege
Is Thorgan Hazard related to Eden Hazard?
Yeah brother. He is at chelsea as well, although i think he might be out on loan
Younger brother.
Italians named their provisional 30 man Squad
Goalkeepers: Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris Saint Germain), *Mirante (Parma);
Defenders: Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Maggio (Napoli), Paletta (Parma), Pasqual (Fiorentina), Ranocchia (Inter);
Midfield: Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Montolivo (Milan), Motta (Paris Saint Germain), Parolo (Parma), Pirlo (Juventus), Romulo (Verona), Verratti (Paris Saint Germain);
Strikers: Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Destro (Roma), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli), Rossi (Fiorentina);
No place for Totti after a great season with Roma or another oldie Luca Toni, good to see Rossi back to fitness, class act
Portugal 30 man Provisional Squad
Goalkeeprs - Anthony Lopes (Lyon), Beto (Sevilha), Eduardo (SC Braga) e Rui Patrício (Sporting)
Defence - André Almeida (Benfica), Antunes (Málaga), Bruno Alves (Fenerbahçe), Fábio Coentrão (Real Madrid), João Pereira (Valência), Neto (Zenit), Pepe (Real Madrid), Ricardo Costa (Valência) e Rolando (Inter)
Midfield - André Gomes (Benfica), João Mário (Vitória FC), João Moutinho (Mónaco), Miguel Veloso (D. Kiev), Raul Meireles (Fenerbahçe), Rúben Amorim (Benfica) e William Carvalho (Sporting)
Strikers - Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid), Éder (SC Braga), Hélder Postiga (Lazio), Hugo Almeida (Besiktas), Ivan Cavaleiro (Benfica), Nani (Manchester United), Rafa (SC Braga), Ricardo Quaresma (FC Porto), Varela (FC Porto) e Vieirinha (Wolfsburgo)
France 23 Man Squad
Goalkeepers: Hugo Lloris (Tottenham Hotspur), Steve Mandanda (Olympique Marseille), Mickael Landreau (Bastia)
Defenders: Mathieu Debuchy (Newcastle United), Lucas Digne (Paris St Germain) Patrice Evra (Manchester United), Laurent Koscielny (Arsenal), Eliaquim Mangala (Porto), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal), Mamadou Sakho (Liverpool), Raphael Varane (Real Madrid)
Midfielders: Yohan Cabaye (Paris St Germain), Clement Grenier (Olympique Lyon), Blaise Matuidi (Paris St Germain), Rio Mavuba (Lille), Paul Pogba (Juventus), Moussa Sissoko (Newcastle United), Mathieu Valbuena (Olympique Marseille)
Forwards: Karim Benzema (Real Madrid), Olivier Giroud (Arsenal), Antoine Griezmann (Real Sociedad), Loic Remy (Newcaste United), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich)
No Nasri or Glichy, Decshamps on Nasri.. Nasri was a top player but when he doesn't start, he is not happy and it shows. And it affects the squad.
Falcao named in the Colombia squad
Goalkeepers: David Ospina (Nice), Faryd Mondragón (Deportivo Cali), Camilo Vargas (Santa Fe).
Defenders: Mario Yepes (Atalanta), Aquivaldo Mosquera (América de México), Cristian Zapata (Milan), Carlos Valdes (San Lorenzo), Amaranto Perea (Cruz Azul), Eder Álvarez Balanta (River Plate), Santiago Arias (PSV Eindhoven), Camilo Zúñiga (Napoli), Pablo Armero (West Ham).
Midfielders: Carlos Sánchez (Elche), Fredy Guarín (Inter), Abel Aguilar (Toulouse), Aldo Leao Ramirez (Morelia), Juan Fernando Quintero (Porto), Víctor Ibarbo (Cagliari), Edwin Valencia (Fluminense), Alexander Mejía (Nacional), James Rodríguez (Monaco), Macnelly Torres (Al Shabab) Juan Guillermo Cuadrado (Fiorentina).
Forwards: Luis Fernando Muriel (Udinese), Teófilo Gutiérrez (River Plate), Radamel Falcao (Monaco), Carlos Bacca (Sevilla), Adrián Ramos (Hertha Berlín), Jackson Martínez (Porto).
Croatia Provisional Squad..
Provisional Croatia World Cup squad
Goalkeepers: Stipe Pletikosa (Rostov), Danijel Subasic (Monaco), Dario Kresic (Lokomotiv)
Defenders: Darijo Srna (Shakhtar), Domagoj Vida (Dynamo Kijev), Vedran Corluka (Lokomotiv), Dejan Lovren (Southampton), Josip Pivaric (Dinamo), Ivan Strinic (Dnipro), Gordon Schildenfeld (Panathinaikos), Sime Vrsaljko (Genoa), Igor Bubnjic (Udinese)
Midfielders: Ivan Rakitic (Sevilla), Luka Modric (Real Madrid), Ivan Perisic (Wolfsburg), Mateo Kovacic (Inter), Ognjen Vukojevic (Dynamo Kijev), Niko Kranjcar (QPR), Arijan Ademi (Dinamo), Alen Halilovic (Dinamo)
Forwards: Mario Mandzukic (Bayern), Ivica Olic (Wolfsburg), Eduardo (Shakhtar), Jelavic (Everton), Nikola Kalinic (Dnipro), Rebic (Fiorentina)
Australia Provisional..
Goalkeepers: Mark Birighitti, (Newcastle Jets), Eugene Galekovic (Adelaide United), Mitchell Langerak (Borussia Dortmund), Mat Ryan (Club Brugge).
Defenders: Jason Davidson (Heracles Almelo), Ivan Franjic (Brisbane Roar), Curtis Good (Newcastle United), Ryan McGowan (Shandong Luneng), Matthew Spiranovic, (Western Sydney Wanderers), Alex Wilkinson (Jeonbuk Hyundai), Luke Wilkshire (Dynamo Moscow), Bailey Wright (Preston North End)
Midfielders: Oliver Bozanic (Luzern), Mark Bresciano (Al Gharafa), Joshua Brilliante (Newcastle Jets), James Holland (Austria Wien), Mile Jedinak (Crystal Palace), Massimo Luongo (Swindon Town), Matthew McKay (Brisbane Roar), Mark Milligan (Melbourne Victory), Tommy Oar (Utrecht), Tommy Rogic (Melbourne Victory), Adam Sarota (Utrecht), James Troisi (Melbourne Victory), Dario Vidosic (Sion).
Forwards: Tim Cahill (New York Red Bulls), Ben Halloran (Fortuna Dusseldorf), Josh Kennedy (Nagoya Grampus), Matthew Leckie (FSV Frankfurt), Adam Taggart (Newcastle Jets)
Dutch Squad:
Goalkeepers: Jasper Cillessen (Ajax), Tim Krul (Newcastle), Michel Vorm (Swansea), Jeroen Zoet (PSV Eindhoven).
Defenders: Daley Blind, Joel Veltman (both Ajax), Stefan de Vrij, Daryl Janmaat, Terence Kongolo, Bruno Martins Indi, Tonny Vilhena (all Feyenoord), Karim Rekik (PSV Eindhoven - on loan from Manchester City), Patrick van Aanholt (Vitesse Arnhem), Paul Verhaegh (FC Augsburg), Ron Vlaar (Aston Villa).
Midfielders: Jordy Clasie (Feyenoord), Jonathan de Guzman (Swansea), Nigel de Jong (AC Milan), Leroy Fer (Norwich), Arjen Robben (Bayern Munich), Wesley Sneijder (Galatasaray), Rafael van der Vaart (Hamburg), Georginio Wijnaldum (PSV Eindhoven).
Forwards: Jean-Paul Boetius (Feyenoord), Memphis Depay (PSV Eindhoven), Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (Schalke 04), Dirk Kuyt (Fenerbahce), Jeremain Lens (Dynamo Kiev), Quincy Promes (Twente), Robin van Persie (Manchester United).
Reminds me of the old gag about world cup squads in 2006.
BRAZILIAN SQUAD FOR WORLD CUP 2006
Pinnochio
Libero
Vimto
Memento
Borneo
Tango
Cheerio
Subbuteo
Scenario
Fellatio
Portfolio
Placebo
Porno
Polio
Banjo
Brasso
Stereo (L)
Stereo (R)
Hydrochlorofluoro
Aristotle
Computersezno
YUGOSLAVIAN SQUAD FOR WORLD CUP 2006
Itch
Annoyingitch
Hardtoreachitch
Scratchanitch
Hic
Sic
Spic
Pric
Digaditch
Fallinaditch
Horseraditch
Mowapitch
Letsgetrich
Shagabitch
RUSSIAN SQUAD FOR WORLD CUP 2006
Whodyanicabolicov
Ticlycov
Chesticov
Nasticov
Slalomsky
Downhillsky
Risky
Swedishshev
Mastershev
Fuckov
Ufuckov
Rubitov
Gechakitov
Sodov
Pastryshev
Najinsky
Ivorripabollockov
Taykitov
ROMANIAN SQUAD FOR WORLD CUP 2006
Chatanoogaciouciou
Atishiou
Blessiou
Thankyiou
Busqueue
Snookercu
Pennyciou
Twoapennyciou
Fourapennyciou
I'llgetciou
Youandwhosarmi
U
NonU
ManU
Stuffyiou
Lee Kwan Yu
DANISH SQUAD FOR WORLD CUP 2006
Toomanigoalssen
Tryandstopussen
Crapdefenssen
Haveagossen
Firstsson
Seccondsson
Thirdsson
Legshurtssen
Notroubleseeingussen
Wherestheballssen
Getthebeerssen
Howmanygoalsisthatssen
Finallygaveupcountinssen
Hurryupandblowthewhistlessen
Yourelatedtoalexfergusonssen
ITALIAN SQUAD FOR WORLD CUP 2006
Baloni
Potbelli
Beerbelli
Giveitsumwelli
Wotsontelli
Yrarseissmelli
Onetoomani
Legslikejelli
Havabenni
Wobblijelli
Spendapenni
Cantthinkofani!!!
Buggermi
MEXICAN SQUAD FOR WORLD CUP 2006
San Francisco
Costa Brava
Hopelez
Juan Andonly
Manuel Gearbox
Don Criformi-Argentina
Skrewdigalz
Luis Canon
Sombrero
Chihuahua
Jose
Jesus Maria Don Key
Burrito
Speedy Gonzalez
Tequila
Caramba
DUTCH SQUAD FOR WORLD CUP 2006
Kenning van Hire
Van Diemansland
Van der Valk
Van Gard
Van Erealdizeez
Ad van Tagus
Hertz van Rental
Transit van Dors
Van Coova
Van Sprokendown
Aye van Hoe
Van Iller
Van Ishincreme
Van Morrison
Two players who are not included are Russian hard-man Sendimov, who will be serving a three-month suspension, and the hard-working Mexican midfielder, Manuel Labor.
There is no place in the Dutch squad for lesbian tranny, Dick van Dyke. The young Dutch star Per Vert has been excluded from the squad, after he was discovered in the back streets of Amsterdam with his finger in a d*ke.
Ah, simpler times ...
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 14, 2014, 11:37:49 AM
The young Dutch star Per Vert has been excluded from the squad, after he was discovered in the back streets of Amsterdam with his finger in a d*ke.
Pere Vert has been named as chaplain to the French team. What they don't know is that he's an Irish priest on the run who used to go by the name of Father Greene.
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 14, 2014, 11:55:12 AM
Ah, simpler times ...
Indeed, when there was only Yugoslavia...
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 13, 2014, 12:22:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 13, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
Spain's Provisional 30 man squad (I reckon Torres got in at no 30!). Maybe a wee bit light in the forwards??
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, David de Gea.
Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Raul Albiol, Juanfran, Jordi Alba, Daniel Carvajal, Alberto Moreno, Cesar Azpilicueta, Javi Martinez.
Midfielders: Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Iniesta, Koke, Busquets, Cazorla, Iturraspe, Fabregas, Thiago, Mata, Silva.
Forwards: Pedro, Navas, Diego Costa, Villa, Torres, Negredo, Llorente.
The folks in italics are my guesses as to who'll be left at home - any views?
Thiago out of squad. injured Thursday. I think Villa has a chance to go ahead of llorente who is probably too similar to Costa.
France playing Norway on btsports at the moment. Looking good so far, 1-0 up through Pogba who looks very good. Sahko is playing.
Looking through the odds for the world cup, brazil at 3/1 is very short but I'm thinking Sergio Aguero top goalscorer and Brazil to win it at 66/1 is surely worth a couple of quid.
What price are les bleus? 4-0 up and looking quite good.
England at 100/1 on paddy power
Anyone believe in omens
1966.
Eurovision- Austria. -
La liga- athletics Madrid.
Champions league-Real Madrid
Fulham realagated
The last time a team came from 2-0 down to win fa cup
World Cup-England
5 out of six have happened already this year
They are 22/1 outright.. Should make it out of the group for a start anyways
Group A: Brazil, Croatia, Mexico, Cameroon
Group B: Spain, Netherlands, Chile, Australia
Group C: Colombia, Greece, Côte d'Ivoire, Japan
Group D: Uruguay, Costa Rica, England, Italy
Group E: Switzerland, Ecuador, France, Honduras
Group F: Argentina, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Iran, Nigeria
Group G: Germany, Portugal, Ghana, USA
Group H: Belgium, Algeria, Russia, Korea Republic
Scotland beating Nigeria 2-1 at the moment on BBC 1 Scotland. They should be penalised a couple of goals for wearing the worst kit I've seen in years. Nigeria not looking great.
The Spain squad for World Cup 2014 - Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Pepe Reina (Liverpool), David De Gea (Manchester United)
Defenders: Juanfran (Atletico Madrid), Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea), Gerard Pique (Barcelona), Javi Martinez (Bayern Munich) Raul Albiol (Napoli), Sergio Ramos (Madrid), Jordi Alba (Barcelona)
Midfielders: Koke (Atletico), Xabi Alonso (Madrid), Santi Cazorla (Arsenal), David Silva (Manchester City), Juan Mata (Man Utd)Xavi Hernandez, Andres Iniesta, Cesc Fabregas, Sergio Busquets, Pedro Rodriguez (all Barcelona
Forwards: Fernando Torres (Chelsea), David Villa, Diego Costa (Atletico)
Holland Squad
Goalkeepers: Jasper Cillessen (Ajax), Tim Krul (Newcastle), Michel Vorm (Swansea)
Defenders: Daley Blind (Ajax), Daryl Janmaat (Feyenoord), Terence Kongolo (Feyenoord), Bruno Martins Indi (Feyenoord), Joel Veltman (Ajax), Paul Verhaegh (Augsburg), Ron Vlaar (Aston Villa), Stefan de Vrij (Feyenoord)
Midfielders: Jordy Clasie (Feyenoord), Leroy Fer (Norwich), Jonathan De Guzman (Swansea), Nigel de Jong (AC Milan), Wesley Sneijder (Galatasaray), Georginio Wijnaldum (PSV Eindhoven)
Forwards: Memphis Depay (PSV), Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (Schalke 04), Dirk Kuijt (Fenerbahce), Jeremain Lens (Dynamo Kiev), Robin van Persie (Manchester United), Arjen Robben (Bayern Munich).
Van der Vaart ruled out through injury
I'm always interested in how the USA are coming along.
Considering how their team in the Italia 90 WC were half amateur they have come on quite a bit.
They have Jurgen Klinsmann managing them now. He's brought in a few German born players like Julian Green and dropping Landon Donovan.
They certainly approach the game much differently than European or South Americans. Probably wont happen this year as they are in a very tough group but you get the feeling they'll eventually have a major breakthrough.
And of course they made a movie about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TGOKG2KjBA
Massive question marks over the 3 Spanish forwards. Pretty handy midfield though.
Quote from: thejuice on May 31, 2014, 03:53:12 PM
I'm always interested in how the USA are coming along.
Considering how their team in the Italia 90 WC were half amateur they have come on quite a bit.
They have Jurgen Klinsmann managing them now. He's brought in a few German born players like Julian Green and dropping Landon Donovan.
They certainly approach the game much differently than European or South Americans. Probably wont happen this year as they are in a very tough group but you get the feeling they'll eventually have a major breakthrough.
And of course they made a movie about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TGOKG2KjBA
Haven't they made the QFs before? Beyond being extremely fortunate that's probably the extent of their potential this year or in any year.
Quote from: Sidney on October 17, 2013, 10:49:55 AM
ENGLAND for me.
It would be amazing for our domestic game if we can do it.
With Stevie and Lamps bossing the centre, Jags and Joles shutting out opposition attacks, and Roo-mania rampant, we'll be living it up in Rio like Ronnie Biggs.
I know all four home nations will be getting behind our British Isles representatives.
(http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/public/style_emoticons/default/UnionJackSmiley.gif)
A true Brit should be protesting for one UK team just like a true Ulsterman shouldn't be loyal to any lands other than Ulster, not England or the other parts of Ireland :) cough 'plastic Ulsterman' cough
Frank Ribery out of the World Cup http://t.co/iSN9m5rCES#
Italian Squad named
Goalkeepers: Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris St. Germain)...
Defence: Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Paletta (Parma)
Midfield: Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Thiago Motta (Paris St. Germain), Parolo (Parma) Pirlo (Juventus), Verratti (Paris St. Germain)
Forwards: Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli)
No place for Giuseppe Rossi
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 01, 2014, 07:25:15 PM
Frank Ribery out of the World Cup http://t.co/iSN9m5rCES#
Italian Squad named
Goalkeepers: Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris St. Germain)...
Defence: Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Paletta (Parma)
Midfield: Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Thiago Motta (Paris St. Germain), Parolo (Parma) Pirlo (Juventus), Verratti (Paris St. Germain)
Forwards: Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli)
No place for Giuseppe Rossi
Shows how much I'm out of touch with the soccer these days. I only recognise two names on that squad. Balotelli and Pirlo. In 90 and 94 I would have know them all.
Quote from: 5 Sams on June 01, 2014, 07:42:53 PM
Shows how much I'm out of touch with the soccer these days. I only recognise two names on that squad. Balotelli and Pirlo. In 90 and 94 I would have know them all.
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Salvatore-Schillaci-Argentina-Italy-World-Cup_2383380.jpg)
Quote from: thejuice on June 01, 2014, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on June 01, 2014, 07:42:53 PM
Shows how much I'm out of touch with the soccer these days. I only recognise two names on that squad. Balotelli and Pirlo. In 90 and 94 I would have know them all.
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Salvatore-Schillaci-Argentina-Italy-World-Cup_2383380.jpg)
As they say in Cross....Count...
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 01, 2014, 07:25:15 PM
Frank Ribery out of the World Cup http://t.co/iSN9m5rCES#
Italian Squad named
Goalkeepers: Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris St. Germain)...
Defence: Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Paletta (Parma)
Midfield: Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Thiago Motta (Paris St. Germain), Parolo (Parma) Pirlo (Juventus), Verratti (Paris St. Germain)
Forwards: Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli)
No place for Giuseppe Rossi
Would Immobile be a big lumbering centre forward??
Quote from: AQMP on June 02, 2014, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 01, 2014, 07:25:15 PM
Frank Ribery out of the World Cup http://t.co/iSN9m5rCES#
Italian Squad named
Goalkeepers: Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris St. Germain)...
Defence: Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Paletta (Parma)
Midfield: Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Thiago Motta (Paris St. Germain), Parolo (Parma) Pirlo (Juventus), Verratti (Paris St. Germain)
Forwards: Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli)
No place for Giuseppe Rossi
Would Immobile be a big lumbering centre forward??
Ha he is fairly mobile, joining Dortmund next season.
Really like Veratti. Think he'll be a top player in a few years
Russia squad:
Goalkeepers: Igor Akinfeev (CSKA Moscow), Yury Lodygin (Zenit St Petersburg), Sergei Ryzhikov (Rubin Kazan)
Defenders: Vasily Berezutsky, Sergei Ignashevich, Georgy Shchennikov (all CSKA Moscow), Vladimir Granat, Alexei Kozlov (both Dynamo Moscow), Andrei Yeshchenko (Anzhi Makhachkala), Dmitry Kombarov (Spartak Moscow), Andrei Semenov (Terek Grozny)
Midfielders: Igor Denisov, Yury Zhirkov (both Dynamo Moscow), Alan Dzagoev (CSKA Moscow), Roman Shirokov (FC Krasnodar), Denis Glushakov (Spartak Moscow), Viktor Faizulin, Oleg Shatov (both Zenit St Petersburg)
Forwards: Alexander Kerzhakov (Zenit St Petersburg), Alexei Ionov, Alexander Kokorin (both Dynamo Moscow), Maxim Kanunnikov (Amkar Perm), Alexander Samedov (Lokomotiv Moscow)
Germany squad:
Goalkeepers: Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Roman Weidenfeller (Borussia Dortmund), Ron-Robert Zieler (Hannover)
Defenders: Jerome Boateng (Bayern Munich), Erik Durm (Borussia Dortmund), Kevin Grosskreutz (Borussia Dortmund), Benedikt Howedes (FC Schalke), Mats Hummels (Borussia Dortmund), Philipp Lahm (Bayern Munich), Per Mertesacker (Arsenal)
Midfielders: Julian Draxler (Schalke), Matthias Ginter (Freiburg), Mario Gotze (Bayern Munich), Christoph Kramer (Borussia Monchengladbach), Sami Khedira (Real Madrid), Toni Kroos (Bayern Munich), Thomas Muller (Bayern Munich), Mesut Ozil (Arsenal), Lukas Podolski (Arsenal), Marco Reus (Borussia Dortmund), Andre Schurrle (Chelsea), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich)
Forward: Miroslav Klose (Lazio).
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2014, 10:17:43 AM
Quote from: AQMP on June 02, 2014, 08:54:06 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 01, 2014, 07:25:15 PM
Frank Ribery out of the World Cup http://t.co/iSN9m5rCES#
Italian Squad named
Goalkeepers: Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris St. Germain)...
Defence: Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Paletta (Parma)
Midfield: Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Thiago Motta (Paris St. Germain), Parolo (Parma) Pirlo (Juventus), Verratti (Paris St. Germain)
Forwards: Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli)
No place for Giuseppe Rossi
Would Immobile be a big lumbering centre forward??
Ha he is fairly mobile, joining Dortmund next season.
Sounds like a failed car name- The Immobile Torino
know 9 of the italian squad, again your right, there was a time i would have knew them all in previous world cups
on the plus side am good for 14 of the German team, Russian team, not a one am afraid
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2014, 06:42:15 PM
Russia squad:
Goalkeepers: Igor Akinfeev (CSKA Moscow), Yury Lodygin (Zenit St Petersburg), Sergei Ryzhikov (Rubin Kazan)
Defenders: Vasily Berezutsky, Sergei Ignashevich, Georgy Shchennikov (all CSKA Moscow), Vladimir Granat, Alexei Kozlov (both Dynamo Moscow), Andrei Yeshchenko (Anzhi Makhachkala), Dmitry Kombarov (Spartak Moscow), Andrei Semenov (Terek Grozny)
Midfielders: Igor Denisov, Yury Zhirkov (both Dynamo Moscow), Alan Dzagoev (CSKA Moscow), Roman Shirokov (FC Krasnodar), Denis Glushakov (Spartak Moscow), Viktor Faizulin, Oleg Shatov (both Zenit St Petersburg)
Forwards: Alexander Kerzhakov (Zenit St Petersburg), Alexei Ionov, Alexander Kokorin (both Dynamo Moscow), Maxim Kanunnikov (Amkar Perm), Alexander Samedov (Lokomotiv Moscow)
Germany squad:
Goalkeepers: Manuel Neuer (Bayern Munich), Roman Weidenfeller (Borussia Dortmund), Ron-Robert Zieler (Hannover)
Defenders: Jerome Boateng (Bayern Munich), Erik Durm (Borussia Dortmund), Kevin Grosskreutz (Borussia Dortmund), Benedikt Howedes (FC Schalke), Mats Hummels (Borussia Dortmund), Philipp Lahm (Bayern Munich), Per Mertesacker (Arsenal)
Midfielders: Julian Draxler (Schalke), Matthias Ginter (Freiburg), Mario Gotze (Bayern Munich), Christoph Kramer (Borussia Monchengladbach), Sami Khedira (Real Madrid), Toni Kroos (Bayern Munich), Thomas Muller (Bayern Munich), Mesut Ozil (Arsenal), Lukas Podolski (Arsenal), Marco Reus (Borussia Dortmund), Andre Schurrle (Chelsea), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich)
Forward: Miroslav Klose (Lazio).
1 35 year old forward!
Even Spain brought 3 even if they might play with none.
Yeah, I suppose Podolski, Draxler, Schurrle, Gotze can play as a second striker if needed. Klose been around a long time, remember him playing against Ireland in 2002 WC. One of my earlier World Cup momemts
Falcao officially out of WC.
Was anyone watching Germany and Cameroon on Sunday night? Good open game in fairness. Cameroon look like they will be dire at the back and good going forward. Liverpool-esque. Anyway, I had to laugh at the BT Sports commentator. He said 'The influence of the French league is very strong on this Cameroon team, in fact I know some of them even speak to each other in French!'. :D
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 03, 2014, 09:35:51 AM
Was anyone watching Germany and Cameroon on Sunday night? Good open game in fairness. Cameroon look like they will be dire at the back and good going forward. Liverpool-esque. Anyway, I had to laugh at the BT Sports commentator. He said 'The influence of the French league is very strong on this Cameroon team, in fact I know some of them even speak to each other in French!'. :D
Bring back Eurosports - all is forgiven. :P
Quote from: Rossie11 on June 03, 2014, 12:20:35 AM
Falcao officially out of WC.
A great name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu_RQIMWSiY
There was a Brazilian called Josimar playing in 86 - I thought it sounded like the name of a Tipp hurler
Quote from: seafoid on June 03, 2014, 10:01:32 AM
Quote from: Rossie11 on June 03, 2014, 12:20:35 AM
Falcao officially out of WC.
A great name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu_RQIMWSiY
There was a Brazilian called Josimar playing in 86 - I thought it sounded like the name of a Tipp hurler
Ah jaysus, they all got out of his way - was it his birthday or something? In fairness, that was probably the best game I ever watched - the triumph of patience and cynicism over style and flair; all of Armagh must have been watching. ;)
Without looking at the link, is that Italy v Brazil 1982 or France v Brazil 1986? They're the two best games that stick out in my memory.
The film of the 1982 world cup final was on last night on BTSports. That was a great World Cup. I forgot Italy missed a penalty in the final as well. Schumacher's 'foul' on Battiston was unbelievable. It's jail he should have got, never mind escaping a free, red card or penalty. Jean Tigana was a great player, and Platini.
Chile squad
Goalkeepers: Claudio Bravo (Real Sociedad), Johnny Herrera (Universidad de Chile), Cristopher Toselli (Universidad Catolica)
Defenders: Gary Medel (Cardiff City), Jose Rojas (Universidad de Chile), Eugenio Mena (Santos), Gonzalo Jara (Nottingham Forest)
Midfielders: Arturo Vidal (Juventus), Mauricio Isla (Juventus), Marcelo Diaz (Basel), Francisco Silva (Osasuna), Felipe Gutierrez (FC Twente), Jose Pedro Fuenzalida (Colo Colo), Carlos Carmona (Atalanta), Jean Beausejour (Wigan Athletic), Charles Aranguiz (Internacional), Miiko Albornoz (Malmo)
Forwards: Alexis Sanchez (Barcelona), Eduardo Vargas (Valencia), Jorge Valdivia (Palmeiras), Mauricio Pinilla (Cagliari), Esteban Paredes (Colo Colo), Fabian Orellana (Celta Vigo)
Colombia World Cup squad:
Goalkeepers: David Ospina (Nice/France), Faryd Mondragon (Deportivo Cali), Camilo Vargas (Santa Fe)
Defenders: Camilo Zuniga (Napoli/Italy), Pablo Armero (Napoli/Italy), Cristian Zapata (AC Milan/Italy), Mario Yepes (Atalanta/Italy), Carlos Valdes (Philadelphia Union/USA - on loan to San Lorenzo/Argentina), Santiago Arias (PSV Eindhoven/Netherlands), Eder Alvarez-Balanta (River Plate/Argentina)
Midfielders: James Rodriguez (Monaco/France), Abel Aguilar (Toulouse/France), Carlos Sanchez (Elche/Spain), Fredy Guarin (Inter Milan/Italy), Juan Fernando Quintero (Porto/Portugal), Aldo Ramirez (Morelia/Mexico), Alexander Mejia (Atletico Nacional), Victor Ibarbo (Cagliari/Italy), Juan Guillermo Cuadrado (Fiorentina/Italy)
Forwards: Jackson Martinez (Porto/Portugal), Teofilo Gutierrez (River Plate/Argentina), Carlos Bacca (Sevilla/Spain), Adrian Ramos (Borussia Dortmund/Germany)
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 03, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
Without looking at the link, is that Italy v Brazil 1982 or France v Brazil 1986? They're the two best games that stick out in my memory.
The film of the 1982 world cup final was on last night on BTSports. That was a great World Cup. I forgot Italy missed a penalty in the final as well. Schumacher's 'foul' on Battiston was unbelievable. It's jail he should have got, never mind escaping a free, red card or penalty. Jean Tigana was a great player, and Platini.
Italy-Brazil '82. France weren't cynical in '86!
Sorry, I misread your clash of styles comment. I watched Italy v Brazil with my Grandfather. He died a couple of months later, and it sticks out in my head. Rossi and Socrates.
Just bought a dodgy Italy top from Vietnam (I think) I'll be a Guido for the next month!
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 03, 2014, 11:45:13 AM
Sorry, I misread your clash of styles comment. I watched Italy v Brazil with my Grandfather. He died a couple of months later, and it sticks out in my head. Rossi and Socrates.
Socrates, possibly the coolest dude ever to wear football boots - he was a doctor (medical) wasn't he?
Yes. He studied for a bit at the Royal College of Surgeons in Dublin too I think. But NO he did NOT win a Sigerson :)
I knew that, and I knew that. ::)
That wasn't directed at you. Usually whenever Socrates is mentioned someone pops up with the Sigerson myth.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 03, 2014, 11:57:21 AM
That wasn't directed at you. Usually whenever Socrates is mentioned someone pops up with the Sigerson myth.
But he did play junior B hurling for the Crokes. 8)
Colombia have some great talent in their Squad its a pity Falcao is out though
Chile won't be bad. Belgium are the sexy dark horses.
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 03, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
Colombia have some great talent in their Squad its a pity Falcao is out though
Anyone listen to the world football phone in? Its a podcast on BBC. Excellent coverage by BBC Brazilian journalist Tim Vickery.
Anyway I thought Colombia could be an outside bet to do well, but Vickery feels they peaked two years ago. The Falcao injury and a centre back partnership who are in mid 30's will leave them vulnerable!
Handy enough group though you'd think. Greece and Japan should be beatable for them, in South America, while the Ivory Coast should be the main competition for top spot. If Colombia do come out of it, they'll play someone in England's group. I'd fancy them, in South America, against Italy or England. Uruguay would be a tougher one for them I'd think.
I think this is from 1998
BRAZILIAN SQUAD for World Cup
Goalkeeper: Pinocchio
Sweeper: Libero
Defenders: Vimto Memento Borneo Tango
Midfield: Cheerio Subbuteo Scenario Fellatio
Forwards: Portfolio
Substitutes: Placebo, Porno, Polio, Banjo, Brasso, Stereo (L), Stereo (R), Hydrochlorofluoro, Aristotle
SERBIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Itch
Defenders: Annoyingitch, Hardtoreachitch, Scratchanditch
Midfielders: Hic, Sic, Spic, Pric
Wingers: Digaditch, Fallinaditch
Forwards: Horseraditch
Substitutes: Mowapitch, Letsgetrich, Shagabitch
RUSSIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Whodyanicabolicov
Wing Backs: Ticlycov, Chesticov, Nasticov
Defenders: Slalomsky, Downhilsky
Midfielders: Risky, Swedishskev, Mastershev
Forwards: Fuckov, Taykitov
Substitutes: Rubitov, Gechakitov, Sodov, Pastryshev, Najinsky, Desert Orchid
ROMANIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Chatanoogaciouciou
Wing Backs: Atishiou, Blessiou, Thankyou
Defenders: Busqueue, Snookercu
Midfielders: Pennyciou, Twoapennyciou, Fourapennyciou
Forwards: I'llgetciou, Youandwhosarmi
Substitutes: U, NonU, ManU, Stuffyiou, Lee Kwan Yu
DANISH SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Toomanigoalssen
Defenders: Tryandstopussen, Crapdefenssen, Haveagossen
Midfielders: Firstsson, Secondsson, Thirdsson
Wingers: Legshurtssen, Notroubleseeingussen
Forwards: Wherestheballssen, Getthebeerssen
Substitutes: Howmanygoalsisthatssen, Finallygaveupcountinssen, Hurryupandblowthewhistlessen, YourelatedtoAlexFergusonssen
ITALIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Baloni
Defenders: Potbelli, Beerbelli, Giveitsumwelli
Midfielders: Wotsontelli, Toonsgotkenni, Onetoomani
Wingers: Legslikejelli, Havabenni
Forwards: Wobblijelli, Spendapenni
Substitutes: Cantthinkofani, Buggermi
MEXICAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: San Francisco
Defenders: Costa Brava, Hopelez, Juan Andonly, Manual Gearbox
Midfielders: Don Criformi-Argentina, Bodegas, Luis Canon, Sombrero
Forwards: Chihuahua, Jose
Substitutes: Jesus Maria Don Key, Burrito, Speedy Gonzalez, Tequila, Caramba
DUTCH SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Kenning Van Hire
Defenders: Van Diemansland, Van der Valk, Van Gard, Van Erealdizeez
Midfielders: Ad Van Tagus, Van Sprokendown, Aye van Hoe
Forwards: Van Coova, Hertz Van Rental, Transit Van Dors
Substitutes: Van Iller, Van Ishincreme, Van Morrison
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 03, 2014, 12:54:21 PM
Handy enough group though you'd think. Greece and Japan should be beatable for them, in South America, while the Ivory Coast should be the main competition for top spot. If Colombia do come out of it, they'll play someone in England's group. I'd fancy them, in South America, against Italy or England. Uruguay would be a tougher one for them I'd think.
I'd say every team in that group will fancy themselves. Especially with Falcao out Columbia are very beatable. I could see any two of those four qualifying. Both Japan (qualified for the Last 16 in two of the last three World Cups) and Greece have shown themselves to be exactly the sorts of un-fancied teams that thrive at the big tournaments.
Normally i'd agree, but in South America Colombia have to have an advantage.
Brazil playing Panama tonight on BTSports. 8pm.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 03, 2014, 01:27:39 PM
Normally i'd agree, but in South America Colombia have to have an advantage.
Euro teams always have it less easy in South America
Belgium Squad
Goalkeepers: Sammy Bossut (Zulte Waregem, Belgium), Thibaut Courtois (Atlético Madrid, Spain), Simon Mignolet (Liverpool, England)
Defenders: Toby Alderweireld (Atlético Madrid, Spain), Laurent Ciman (Standard Liege, Belgium), Vincent Kompany (Manchester City, England), Nicolas Lombaerts (Zenit, Russia), Daniel Van Buyten (Bayern Munich, Germany), Anthony Vanden Borre (Anderlecht, Belgium), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal, England), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham, England).
Midfielders: Nacer Chadli (Tottenham, England), Steven Defour (Porto, Portugal), Moussa Dembélé (Tottenham, England), Marouane Fellaini (Manchester United, England), Axel Witsel (Zenit, Russia).
Forwards: Kevin De Bruyne (Wolfsburg, Germany), Eden Hazard (Chelsea, England), Adnan Januzaj (Manchester United, England), Romelu Lukaku (Everton, England), Dries Mertens (Napoli), Kevin Mirallas (Everton, England), Divock Origi (Lille, France).
They should be alright without the injured Benteke, lots of Quality.
Ronaldo in a bit of bother http://t.co/iYvu2ypOaP
Is that the World Cup ball they are using in the England game? Awful looking!
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 04, 2014, 05:08:09 PM
Ronaldo in a bit of bother http://t.co/iYvu2ypOaP
"This injury can never be cured by any medic, they can never see what is causing the injury because it is spiritual. Today, it is his knee, tomorrow it is his thigh, next day it is something else."
Arrogance. It's such a curse.
Ecuador looking the better side
rush of blood from Valencia,
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 03, 2014, 11:47:44 AM
Yes. He studied for a bit at the Royal College of Surgeons in Dublin too I think.
He did not.
Sterling goes in with an over the ball leg breaker on Valencia who quite right tears into him for a trampish act. Medal envy probably!
Rubbish.
Quote from: StGallsGAA on June 04, 2014, 10:05:33 PM
Sterling goes in with an over the ball leg breaker on Valencia who quite right tears into him for a trampish act. Medal envy probably!
Still hurting after this season super fan ?
QuoteStill hurting after this season super fan ?
Make no mistake it was a disappointing season kiddo but like most fans of other teams I finished it pissing myself laughing at Liverpool's collapse thinking they'd already won it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oBLqayQa47M
It was either 2 reds or no reds.both by the letter of the law are probably reds and i reckon definitely would be during the World cup. It's things like the ITV lads response that pisses me off,only Hoddle would dare say Sterlings challenge deserved a red and he's usually as much of an arse licker as the rest.
Where was there criticism of some of the performances out there this evening? The wonderkid Shaw was average at best,same with rest of the defence,Lampard was dung,Rooney was dung,Wilshere was his petulent self,Foster was dung. The only ones to come out of it with much credit were Barkley,Ox and Lambert
QuoteWhere was there criticism of some of the performances out there this evening? The wonderkid Shaw was average at best,same with rest of the defence,Lampard was dung,Rooney was dung,Wilshere was his petulent self,Foster was dung. The only ones to come out of it with much credit were Barkley,Ox and Lambert[/quote
Agreed. £30M my @r$e. In fairness the England shirt has a habit of turning great club players to complete dung on the WC front though!
Oxlade Chamerlain picked up an injury which won't help them.
2 of the Spanish Squad joining Chelsea next season , Diego Costa and Fabregas. They are doing some swift business
Quote from: beer baron on June 04, 2014, 10:44:00 PM
It was either 2 reds or no reds.both by the letter of the law are probably reds and i reckon definitely would be during the World cup. It's things like the ITV lads response that pisses me off,only Hoddle would dare say Sterlings challenge deserved a red and he's usually as much of an arse licker as the rest.
Where was there criticism of some of the performances out there this evening? The wonderkid Shaw was average at best,same with rest of the defence,Lampard was dung,Rooney was dung,Wilshere was his petulent self,Foster was dung. The only ones to come out of it with much credit were Barkley,Ox and Lambert
How could Valencias reaction possibly not have been a red???!
I thought the sterling challenge was probably a yellow, although its one of those that depending on the match and the referee could well get a red due to the pace he flew in at.
Quote from: StGallsGAA on June 04, 2014, 10:39:43 PM
QuoteStill hurting after this season super fan ?
Make no mistake it was a disappointing season kiddo but like most fans of other teams I finished it pissing myself laughing at Liverpool's collapse thinking they'd already won it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oBLqayQa47M
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Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 05, 2014, 09:04:03 AM
Quote from: beer baron on June 04, 2014, 10:44:00 PM
It was either 2 reds or no reds.both by the letter of the law are probably reds and i reckon definitely would be during the World cup. It's things like the ITV lads response that pisses me off,only Hoddle would dare say Sterlings challenge deserved a red and he's usually as much of an arse licker as the rest.
Where was there criticism of some of the performances out there this evening? The wonderkid Shaw was average at best,same with rest of the defence,Lampard was dung,Rooney was dung,Wilshere was his petulent self,Foster was dung. The only ones to come out of it with much credit were Barkley,Ox and Lambert
Valencia never struck out just grabbed him by the throat so the ref could've decided as it was a friendly he'd let valencia off as its a pretty understandable response to a possible leg breaker from his blindside the week before a world cup. He was prob right to put them both off though because the next challenge between the 2 would probably have been the same or worse.
How could Valencias reaction possibly not have been a red???!
I thought the sterling challenge was probably a yellow, although its one of those that depending on the match and the referee could well get a red due to the pace he flew in at.
Few great goals from previous World Cups https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftDRtGO-B-g
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 05, 2014, 10:16:03 AM
Few great goals from previous World Cups https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftDRtGO-B-g
Great video. The World Cup isn't quite as magical as it used to be with so much football on TV now but still can't wait for it to get started.
Confirmed that Ribery is out for les Bleus http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27739174
Full list of each Countries Squads http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27388351
Marco Reus could be another big name ruled out, looks like ligament damage .http://t.co/nLSOwsJCah
Dropping like flies.. shirokov gone for Russia
Players out of the WC so far with injury :
Shirokov - Russia
Marco Reus - Germany
Frane Ribery - France
Falcao - Colombia
Luis Montes - Mexico
Victor Valdes - Portugal
Thiago Alacantra - Spain
Gundogan - Germany
El Shaarawy - Italy
Walcott - England
Giuseppe Rossi - Italy
Montolivo - Itay
Kevin Strootman - Holland
Rafael Van Der Vaart - Holland
Christian Benteke - Belgium
Some decent talent in that mix.
Im a very unhappy baron this morning. Ive been backing the Germans since this time last year. If you asked me to name 1 player i didn't want to see get injured it almost certainly would've been reus. They've plenty of cover in the position but he's a special talent
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 07, 2014, 11:26:21 AM
Players out of the WC so far with injury :
Shirokov - Russia
Marco Reus - Germany
Frane Ribery - France
Falcao - Colombia
Luis Montes - Mexico
Victor Valdes - Portugal
Thiago Alacantra - Spain
Gundogan - Germany
El Shaarawy - Italy
Walcott - England
Giuseppe Rossi - Italy
Montolivo - Itay
Kevin Strootman - Holland
Rafael Van Der Vaart - Holland
Christian Benteke - Belgium
Some decent talent in that mix.
Mario Gomez? Same boat as El Shaarawy, physically fit after a long injury absence but not deemed fit enough for the WC.
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2014, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 07, 2014, 11:26:21 AM
Players out of the WC so far with injury :
Shirokov - Russia
Marco Reus - Germany
Frane Ribery - France
Falcao - Colombia
Luis Montes - Mexico
Victor Valdes - Portugal
Thiago Alacantra - Spain
Gundogan - Germany
El Shaarawy - Italy
Walcott - England
Giuseppe Rossi - Italy
Montolivo - Itay
Kevin Strootman - Holland
Rafael Van Der Vaart - Holland
Christian Benteke - Belgium
Some decent talent in that mix.
Mario Gomez? Same boat as El Shaarawy, physically fit after a long injury absence but not deemed fit enough for the WC.
Yeah, when he hadn't played much all season it was going to be against him
Other players to miss out are Badstubber,Niko Kranjcar, Andros Townsend, wouldn't call Townsend a loss but he is missing out nonetheless.
My good lady, having just watched a show on TV, unintentionally let it run onto the England V Honduras game. Having smugly identified the pundit on screen as Glen Hoddle (I don't know how the hell she knew that) she then went on to ask if he was Chris Waddle's brother ::) (i presume because their names rhyme) I'm still laughing. :o :P
Quote from: CD on June 07, 2014, 10:10:12 PM
My good lady, having just watched a show on TV, unintentionally let it run onto the England V Honduras game. Having smugly identified the pundit on screen as Glen Hoddle (I don't know how the hell she knew that) she then went on to ask if he was Chris Waddle's brother ::) (i presume because their names rhyme) I'm still laughing. :o :P
That is brilliant.
Joey Barton on Twitter.. If there is a God. If you do exist. Prove yourself. Take out either Chiles or Townsend with a stray bolt of lightening. The nation awaits.
Quote from: CD on June 07, 2014, 10:10:12 PM
My good lady, having just watched a show on TV, unintentionally let it run onto the England V Honduras game. Having smugly identified the pundit on screen as Glen Hoddle (I don't know how the hell she knew that) she then went on to ask if he was Chris Waddle's brother ::) (i presume because their names rhyme) I'm still laughing. :o :P
Diamond Lights?
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 07, 2014, 10:27:47 PM
Joey Barton on Twitter.. If there is a God. If you do exist. Prove yourself. Take out either Chiles or Townsend with a stray bolt oflightening. The nation awaits.
Struck by lightening? Have they been to the tanning salon? Although it's probably the tanning saloon to Joey.
England are very boring to watch, can't see them getting out of the group
African side causing a storm again https://t.co/V9gBmMeVIH
Oh My God, no-one would have seen this morning a couple of weeks ago.
Oh.
Quote from: Under Lights on May 13, 2014, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: beer baron on May 13, 2014, 12:55:13 PM
I'd be gobsmacked if azpilicueta didn't make the squad,I'd expect him to be 1st choice right back. They could struggle up front,Costa will need to get used to the system of play very quickly,he looked average at Best against Italy. Then you've negredo who's had a quiet 2nd half of the season and villa who's a shadow of his former self.could be a tough tournament for them. Big question is has del bosque the balls to not have xavi in his starting 11?
Agree with this fully. Koke actually needs to be replace him.
I'm gonna put my neck on the line and predict Spain not to get out of the group. It's a tough group. Chile will take them by surprise and Holland will be no pushovers.
Not convinced by Costa. Lot of hype about him but I think he could implode in the land of his father.
8)
And modest to top it all off ;D
Quote from: beer baron on June 18, 2014, 10:34:50 PM
And modest to top it all off ;D
Modest with money in my wallet as I backed it.