Division 3 teams,
Sligo,
Roscommon,
Wexford,
Fermanagh,
Louth,
Cavan,
Offaly,
Antrim.
Should be interesting, first up for us a tough away day in Belfast. I think we are better than last yr so Im optimistic for Sligo, will be disappointed if we dont get promoted. 4 home games aswell so cant complain. Cant wait.
All building up to a grand finale in Markievicz on 11th April when we cross Corr Shliabh to beard the Magpies in their den.
Seriously and realistically we are looking to at least stay in the division by avoiding relegation and if we get 4 wins and end the NFL with a reasonable settled team it will be progress.
This was the tightest of all the divisions last year with only a few points between top and bottom and I suspect we'll see a similar close finish again.
The teams with 4 home games will be at an advantage .
We face the Cyaaaavan biys on Sunday and Fergie's problem is that anything up to half his squad was not available to him during the FBD so team selection might be a shot in the dark.
Anyway the silly season is over so let it roll :D
Fermanagh favourites to win division, Roscommon strong favourites to be regelated. Bookies have got this one wrong. Look at odds today because this day week all will be changed mark my words.
Can you post the odds, cant access bookmaker websites here in uae..
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 01, 2010, 06:04:29 PM
Division 3 teams,
Sligo,
Roscommon,
Wexford,
Fermanagh,
Louth,
Cavan,
Offaly,
Antrim.
Should be interesting, first up for us a tough away day in Belfast. I think we are better than last yr so Im optimistic for Sligo, will be disappointed if we dont get promoted. 4 home games aswell so cant complain. Cant wait.
Well on paper Sligo & Fermanagh Should get Promotion but this is Division 3 & anything could happen, i wonder what's the Story with Mattie Forde? if he's fit he could fire Wexford to Promotion & as for ourself i'm expecting another mid table finish with possibly Cavan Offaly or Louth falling to Division 4
Paddy Power Odds
Fermanagh 7/2
Sligo 4/1
Wexford 4/1
Cavan 6/1
Offaly 6/1
Antrim 6/1
Louth 9/1
Roscommon 10/1
I'd be disappointed if Offaly are relegated there, even though it's a tough division and wouldn't be a complete shock. Sitting here the Monday before it starts, I'd be looking at..
Fermanagh (h) - Chance of a win here.
Wexford (a) - Very hard to get anything in Wexford Park, but if Forde is out you'd never know.
Roscommon (h) - Big game. Win and they'll be going well, but it will be tough.
Sligo (a) - Again, tough trip, I'd have preferred Sligo and Wexford in Tullamore.
Antrim (h) - Decent record against Antrim, but Antrim seem to have a bit of momentum.
Cavan (a) - Another big game, and another team I'd prefer in Tullamore.
Louth (h) - A good game to finish with. Louth will be tough, but it's good to have them at home.
All in all I'd prefer to have Sligo, Wexford and Cavan at home, but 4 home games is a good start.
I'll go for 3 wins, and maybe a draw in Sligo or Cavan.
7 points should keep you up.
No more than ourself it's sad to see offaly such a great footballing county with a Great history now so bad!
i got to see them play first hand last year, to be honest they were one of the worst team's i've seen Roscommon play & judging by the hammering the got from DCU a couple of weeks ago they haven't improved much?
But they are at Home to Roscommon which is a plus
Ah they were fairly experimental in the O'Byrne Cup. The league will give a clearer indication.
I have no idea why they regard Fermanagh as favourites.
We have 4 away game and 3 home games AGAIN FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW.
We are away to Antrim, Cavan, Wexford and first up Offaly.
If we have any chance of making the top 2 its vital we get a win in Offaly.
Cavan is a local derby and Antrim may well have the St Gall's contingent back when we play them.
Wexford have also beat us in the last 2 years and if Forde is fit, they will be in the mix.
Have a wee sneaky feeling about Antrim. They could very well be like Tipperary last year and have successive promotions.
AZ a few of us thinking of making the trip down for Sunday.
Any advice on where to stay or go for a few pints would be much appreciated.
Division 3 will be very comeptitive this year. There isn't much much between any of the teams. We did very well at the level two years ago, with promotion gained to division 2, followed by an Ulster Final appearance in July 08.
Fermanagh have had a good McKenna cup campaign. Although we were hammered by Tyrone at the semi final stage, we have been able to blood quite a few younger players. However, for this NFL campaign we are missing a number of key personnel. Barry Owens is a long term absentee, while Marty McGrath should return some time in March. Eamon Maguire is also missing and Mark Little hasn't been involved this year at all. Rory Gallagher is back, but he has club committments with St. Gall's, so it remains to be seen what involvement he has in the early stages of the league. As a result of the players we're missing, it'll be quite a young side that starts out in Tullamore this weekend.
I know the bookies have us as favourites to get promoted but Division 3 is a mine field. There really isn't any easy games. If we get off to a good start and build up some momentum then hopefully promotion will be achieveable.
Agree with Fermgael about our chances.
We're going into this without Barry Owens, Marty McGrath, Mark Little, Ryan McCluskey, Eamon Maguire, Ronan and Rory Gallagher on St Gall's duty.
Still think we should be in hunt for promotion though the fixtures situation is a f**king joke once again.
The first game is huge and I'd also have Antrim as the dark horses here.
The last I heard on Matty Forde he'd be doing well to play any football all year with his back injury.
Quote from: FermGael on February 01, 2010, 09:46:57 PM
I have no idea why they regard Fermanagh as favourites.
We have 4 away game and 3 home games AGAIN FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW.
We are away to Antrim, Cavan, Wexford and first up Offaly.
If we have any chance of making the top 2 its vital we get a win in Offaly.
Cavan is a local derby and Antrim may well have the St Gall's contingent back when we play them.
Wexford have also beat us in the last 2 years and if Forde is fit, they will be in the mix.
Have a wee sneaky feeling about Antrim. They could very well be like Tipperary last year and have successive promotions.
AZ a few of us thinking of making the trip down for Sunday.
Any advice on where to stay or go for a few pints would be much appreciated.
How many of you are heading down, FermGael? I'm disappointed I can't make the trip this weekend. Hopefully I might get down to the Wexford game later in the year
3 at the moment. you looking a lift?? Leaving from enniskillen saturday afternoon
Quote from: FermGael on February 01, 2010, 10:07:17 PM
3 at the moment. you looking a lift?? Leaving from enniskillen saturday afternoon
No thanks. Unfortunately I can't go to the match this weekend. Hopefully I'll get it on a radio
Quote from: FermPundit on February 01, 2010, 10:14:23 PM
Quote from: FermGael on February 01, 2010, 10:07:17 PM
3 at the moment. you looking a lift?? Leaving from enniskillen saturday afternoon
No thanks. Unfortunately I can't go to the match this weekend. Hopefully I'll get it on a radio
Well i would say that Q101 should be covering it as Tyrone are playing on Saturday night.
But that's no guarantee. Some Tyrone junior club might have a tidily winks final and Paddy might have to head to that.
Good luck to the Roscommon and Cavan teams as they have Declan Corcoran reffing it I see from drici's post!!!
So sad to see once great counties down with the permenant poor sides. Hope to see Cavan, Offaly , Wexford and even the Rossies escape from those mediocre Tommy Murphy fodder outfits. Too long down there and your soul changes and you get desperate. Escape towards the sunlight and away from the hell of glorified junior football.
Quote from: FermGael on February 01, 2010, 09:46:57 PM
I have no idea why they regard Fermanagh as favourites.
We have 4 away game and 3 home games AGAIN FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW.
We are away to Antrim, Cavan, Wexford and first up Offaly.
If we have any chance of making the top 2 its vital we get a win in Offaly.
Cavan is a local derby and Antrim may well have the St Gall's contingent back when we play them.
Wexford have also beat us in the last 2 years and if Forde is fit, they will be in the mix.
Have a wee sneaky feeling about Antrim. They could very well be like Tipperary last year and have successive promotions.
AZ a few of us thinking of making the trip down for Sunday.
Any advice on where to stay or go for a few pints would be much appreciated.
Sorry FermGael, just saw this now.
For accomodation, there are a couple of decent hotels, The Bridge House, which is central to town and you can walk to O'Connor Park (about a 2.5 KM walk I'd say) and the Tullamore Court, which is about another .5 KM out the Portlaoise side of town. The Days hotel is also there, but I'm not sure what that is like.
The Tullamore Court is about €65 pp, The Bridge House is €60 pp. The Days hotel is €60 for the Room, rather than PP.
For pints, there are a few decent pubs right in the centre there. The famous Brewery Tap, Brian Cowen's favourite hangout is there, as is Pat's Bar, but there are loads of pubs there all along the main street, so you should get either a seisun or a quite pint or a disco type bar, whatever floats your boat. Nightclubs in a couple of hotels as well, including the Bridge House.
Some of the Down lads stayed there in 2008 I think as well for the massacre of Tullamore. They might have a couple of tips for you too, as a dreaded Nordie :D
Quote from: Rossfan on February 01, 2010, 06:34:52 PM
All building up to a grand finale in Markievicz on 11th April when we cross Corr Shliabh to beard the Magpies in their den.
Seriously and realistically we are looking to at least stay in the division by avoiding relegation and if we get 4 wins and end the NFL with a reasonable settled team it will be progress.
This was the tightest of all the divisions last year with only a few points between top and bottom and I suspect we'll see a similar close finish again.
The teams with 4 home games will be at an advantage .
We face the Cyaaaavan biys on Sunday and Fergie's problem is that anything up to half his squad was not available to him during the FBD so team selection might be a shot in the dark.
Anyway the silly season is over so let it roll :D
Will be an interesting finale with us going for Promotion and yet needing to win to stay up ;)
Cant remember ever playing yee in the NFL, even though I wont be there its a great game to see where we stand and huge crowd hopefully.
I know this was a close fought division last yr but it has some poor teams.
this will turn out to be one of the most competitive leagues i reckon, everyone can be anyone on a given day, I think Wexford and Offaly will struggle, Cavan and Louth could be dark horses, Sligo are also rans and Antrim will miss their St Galls lads too much at the beginning, Roscommon are in fairly bad shape (as usual)
Final Table to look something like this I reckon
P Pts
Louth 7 10
Fermanagh 7 9
Antrim 7 8
Sligo 7 8
Cavan 7 5
Roscommon 7 4
Wexford 7 2
Offaly 7 0
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2010, 10:57:44 PM
Good luck to the Roscommon and Cavan teams as they have Declan Corcoran reffing it I see from drici's post!!!
Awwww for FCUK Sake ...that's all we need. >:(
All building up to a grand finale in Markievicz on 11th April when we cross Corr Shliabh to beard the Magpies in their den.
Seriously and realistically we are looking to at least stay in the division by avoiding relegation and if we get 4 wins and end the NFL with a reasonable settled team it will be progress.
This was the tightest of all the divisions last year with only a few points between top and bottom and I suspect we'll see a similar close finish again.
The teams with 4 home games will be at an advantage .
We face the Cyaaaavan biys on Sunday and Fergie's problem is that anything up to half his squad was not available to him during the FBD so team selection might be a shot in the dark.
Anyway the silly season is over so let it roll
Hilarious. ::)
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 02, 2010, 06:02:04 PM
this will turn out to be one of the most competitive leagues i reckon, everyone can be anyone on a given day, I think Wexford and Offaly will struggle, Cavan and Louth could be dark horses, Sligo are also rans and Antrim will miss their St Galls lads too much at the beginning, Roscommon are in fairly bad shape (as usual)
Final Table to look something like this I reckon
P Pts
Louth 7 10
Fermanagh 7 9
Antrim 7 8
Sligo 7 8
Cavan 7 5
Roscommon 7 4
Wexford 7 2
Offaly 7 0
Not a chance Louth will top this division.
Fermanagh to win it and one from Sligo and Antrim to go up with them.
I think Cavan will do well to stay in the division but I suppose you never know what would happen if you won a game or two early and got some momentum.
we'll do well to stay in the division without the galls boys.
i'd love to think we could get promoted but dont think we will--we cant afford to be missing half our team
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 02, 2010, 06:02:04 PM
this will turn out to be one of the most competitive leagues i reckon, everyone can be anyone on a given day, I think Wexford and Offaly will struggle, Cavan and Louth could be dark horses, Sligo are also rans and Antrim will miss their St Galls lads too much at the beginning, Roscommon are in fairly bad shape (as usual)
Final Table to look something like this I reckon
P Pts
Louth 7 10
Fermanagh 7 9
Antrim 7 8
Sligo 7 8
Cavan 7 5
Roscommon 7 4
Wexford 7 2
Offaly 7 0
:D Also rans, a team full of players in there mid to early 20s, who ran kerry close in there back garden and won div4.
Quote from: hardstation on February 02, 2010, 11:51:18 PM
BTW, I can't see Offaly doing as poorly as you reckon, sammy. 0 points my bollix.
This could be a very tight division.
Will indeed be a very tight division. I can see a team getting promoted with 8 points or relegated with 6. Or any team could win or lose all seven of their games by a point.
Will be happy enough if Antrim avoid relegation, although that will be an achievement without the milltown men. Nothing really to fear from any of those teams with a full hand, but that's something Bradley doesn't have at the minute.
nice to see the reaction from a passionate gang of division 3 county supporters! I will more than likely be way off the mark with my little league table, Louth might be relegated and Sligo could walk the league.... looking forward to seeing Fermanagh at Brewster against Roscommon next Saturday evening week, and Louth on the 14th and then Sligo which is the 2nd last game of the campaign and could be a real hum-dinger (we don't tend to play Sligo that often) and hopefully will get to see them at Breffni too.
Will hopefully be refreshing after their poor league campaign from last season which was tough to watch.
I am really looking forward to sunday heading off to the hyde.
I can see a very tight league with a few suprises in terms of results.
I fancy us to beat cavan,offaly and wexford but will find it tough against the other sides.
Cant see us beating fermanagh or louth and will find it very tough to beat antrim even at home.
Sligo in my eyes will be hard stopped and i wont have to much confidence travelling to markevicz especially if they are flying.
last year for sligo was a big step after the debacle two years ago and i expect them to continue that progress.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2010, 11:14:35 PM
I think Cavan will do well to stay in the division but I suppose you never know what would happen if you won a game or two early and got some momentum.
I really cant see Cavan going down - I know they have their problems, but they're never easily pushed over in Breffni.
Easy knowing the whole thing hasnt started yet by how nice everyone is being about everyone elses chances - I'd say will be a different story when there are a few incident filled games to mull over!! :D
I reckon we'll struggle tbh. We've lost half our team since last year, with the St Galls lads and big McKeever. I reckon we'll be lucky to have the Galls lads for 2 games, they may want a break after the club final(if they get there). On the plus side we have Magill back and looking sharp, and Doherty is a decent replacement for McClean at fullback.
Very tight division, I won't be putting any money on it as any team could win it or go down!
That table doesn't add up - it might look like that heading into the last round, but you're missing five matches off it.
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 02, 2010, 06:02:04 PM
Final Table to look something like this I reckon
P Pts
Louth 7 10
Fermanagh 7 9
Antrim 7 8
Sligo 7 8
Cavan 7 5
Roscommon 7 4
Wexford 7 2
Offaly 7 0
Quote from: Plain of the Herbs on February 03, 2010, 01:32:38 PM
That table doesn't add up - it might look like that heading into the last round, but you're missing five matches off it.
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 02, 2010, 06:02:04 PM
Final Table to look something like this I reckon
P Pts
Louth 7 10
Fermanagh 7 9
Antrim 7 8
Sligo 7 8
Cavan 7 5
Roscommon 7 4
Wexford 7 2
Offaly 7 0
ok ok sorry that i done it in 2 mins and did not do all the calculations and goals and points scored etc ::)
Just give Offaly at least two points and Plain will be happy :D
Been meaning to post my views on Div3 and by the time i do you's have louth on top!! ;D
We had a great O'bryne cup last season aswell and we scrapped by relegation....The reason for our early season form is due to majority our panel is available ..and not tied up with sigerson like majority of other counties...so i can't be wholly confident especially as we have 4 away days this year also...so i'd settle for third or fourth place....but i can see us in the dogfight at the end
I can see Antrim making a strong push especially when their St galls crew return.....Cavan are my favourites for promotion they have huge scoring potential and alot of their players are a year older and more experienced with wexford and Offaly my faves for the drop
But its very competitive and not a lot between the sides in all areas!
Cavan
Antrim
Fermanagh
Sligo
Louth
Roscommon
Wexford
Offaly
I'm quite looking forward to the league this year and think my own county have reason for optimism. This will be a very tight division and I'd be surprised if half the teams aren't in contention coming to the last weekend.
Crucial game for us this weekend. Antrim are a good outfit and they beat us up there last year. However, without the Galls lads this is a game we need to be getting something from if we're to challenge for promotion. Team named is a strong looking one: Greene, Harrison, Maguire, Donovan, Ewing, Quinn, J. Davey, Taylor, Mullen, Costello, Breheny, Marren, Coen, Sweeney, Kelly.
Is O'Hara going another year?
Yeah. He got injured last week though.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 03, 2010, 04:41:08 PM
I'm quite looking forward to the league this year and think my own county have reason for optimism. This will be a very tight division and I'd be surprised if half the teams aren't in contention coming to the last weekend.
Crucial game for us this weekend. Antrim are a good outfit and they beat us up there last year. However, without the Galls lads this is a game we need to be getting something from if we're to challenge for promotion. Team named is a strong looking one: Greene, Harrison, Maguire, Donovan, Ewing, Quinn, J. Davey, Taylor, Mullen, Costello, Breheny, Marren, Coen, Sweeney, Kelly.
Exclusive there on the team Seanie, happy enough, Sweeney and ewing are suprises but the rest not. Glad Quinn is CHB again. His NFL county debut, knowing Quinn so well all these yrs its quite an emotional feeling seeing him named in a such a pivotal position. I wish Quinny well. Best of luck to all the Sligo team and management this yr.
readin here it looks like people are tipping wexford for relegation. I don't know, we have four games at home and we are traditionally very strong in Wexford Park. Wouldn't be suprised if we won them all. Despite a good few injuries (Matty wont be around for most of the league) I reckon we should be in the mix for promotion come the end. Either way i'm headin up for the Louth game, which I ain't confident about winning at all.
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2010, 08:08:26 PM
No more than ourself it's sad to see offaly such a great footballing county with a Great history now so bad!
i got to see them play first hand last year, to be honest they were one of the worst team's i've seen Roscommon play & judging by the hammering the got from DCU a couple of weeks ago they haven't improved much?
But they are at Home to Roscommon which is a plus
If there hadn't been a change of manager after the Roscommon game last year, I'd have been surprised had Offaly won a game at all. Things were looking that bad.
7 points out of 8 collected at home kept them safe. On the road they averaged 8 or 9 point defeats though.
Quote from: mattockranger on February 03, 2010, 02:57:14 PM
Been meaning to post my views on Div3 and by the time i do you's have louth on top!! ;D
We had a great O'bryne cup last season aswell and we scrapped by relegation....The reason for our early season form is due to majority our panel is available ..and not tied up with sigerson like majority of other counties...so i can't be wholly confident especially as we have 4 away days this year also...so i'd settle for third or fourth place....but i can see us in the dogfight at the end
I can see Antrim making a strong push especially when their St galls crew return.....Cavan are my favourites for promotion they have huge scoring potential and alot of their players are a year older and more experienced with wexford and Offaly my faves for the drop
But its very competitive and not a lot between the sides in all areas!
Cavan
Antrim
Fermanagh
Sligo
Louth
Roscommon
Wexford
Offaly
Don't know where you are getting this huge scoring potential from. Apart from Seanie Johnstone we don't have much by way of scoring forwards as far as I can see. We have a young team and a lot of new faces. We also lack strength and size. I hope I'm wrong but Cavan could easily get relegated in this division although if Ros are as atrocious as they were in Breffni last year that will suit us fine on Sunday.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 03, 2010, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: mattockranger on February 03, 2010, 02:57:14 PM
Been meaning to post my views on Div3 and by the time i do you's have louth on top!! ;D
We had a great O'bryne cup last season aswell and we scrapped by relegation....The reason for our early season form is due to majority our panel is available ..and not tied up with sigerson like majority of other counties...so i can't be wholly confident especially as we have 4 away days this year also...so i'd settle for third or fourth place....but i can see us in the dogfight at the end
I can see Antrim making a strong push especially when their St galls crew return.....Cavan are my favourites for promotion they have huge scoring potential
Don't know where you are getting this huge scoring potential from. Apart from Seanie Johnstone we don't have much by way of scoring forwards as far as I can see. We have a young team and a lot of new faces. We also lack strength and size. I hope I'm wrong but Cavan could easily get relegated in this division although if Ros are as atrocious as they were in Breffni last year that will suit us fine on Sunday.
And going by the sigerson thread hes fucked now too - injured yesterday
HAHA that is a disaster ;D
i must have put the jinx on cavan.....sorry mylestheslasher !!
I think you have. From INDIANA in the Sigerson thread.
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Forgot to add . Johnson broke his elbow yesterday for DCU. Looked nasty. Out for the whole NFL and Sigerson obviously.
Big blow for Cavan. Johnson is a genius and Cavan just won't get promoted without him. He was moving well too.
Very under strength wexford team headin to Louth, especially up front. We could be trouble unless its a very low scoring game :-\
Barely arsed about the whole thing, so impoverished do I rate Cavan's chances. Carr has done nothing to indicate he has a handle on what's required or the energy and drive to implement it, there should at least be two worse teams in the division than us. If we're about our business early, we should avoid releagtion more comfortably but promotion is way too ambitious as far as I can see.
Louth are flying and will be hard beat early on until fitness levels even out, I'd make themselves and Sligo favourites for the top two spots.
From a Ross point of view I wouldnt be anyways confident of doing well.
Relegation is alot more probable than promotion for us. It could be the same as last years Div 3 where Limerick
went down on scoring averages.
It will be a case of which team hits the crowd running and builds up confidence quickly.
From that I believe the form team to be Sligo following last years league and the Kerry performance
I am having a few bob on them to win the division as I think they are shoo-ins to be in top 2.
Fermanagh should be good enough to join them and its take your pick from the rest to be relegated
with the losers of Ross V Cavan this week favs to go.
Antrim Team v Sligo tomorrow - couple of non-regulars in there. I'd imagine O'Connell will not play in the ff line and will come out as a third midfielder.
1. SEAN MC GREEVY
2. DERMOT MC CANN
3. PAUL DOHERTY
4. KEVIN O BOYLE
5 TONY SCULLION
6. JUSTIN CROZIER
7. DEAGHLAN O HAGAN
8. MICHAEL MC CANN
9. BRENDAN HERRON
10. KIERAN CLOSE
11. TOMAS MC CANN
12. JAMES LOUGHERY
13. PATRICK CUNNINGHAM
14. MICHAEL MAGILL
15. NEIL O CONNELL
16. JOHN FINNUCANE
17. KEVIN BRADY
18. PATRICK CAREY
19. AARON DOUGLAS
20. DAMIEN GAULT
21. GERARD O BOYLE
22. CONOR MAXWELL
23. CONOR MURRAY
24. MICHAEL POLLOCK
25. CHRIS LAVERY
No sign of a Ros team yet but Senan Kilbride and Brian Higgins are bth injured. A few lads were playing Sigerson during the week so I suspect Fergal will only finalise things tonight.
I expect it'll be Claffey, Seanie-Killelea and either Ormsby ro Domo, Domo or Purcell-Ian Kilbride-Rogers, Mark O'C and Finneran/Freeman, Forwards from Cregg,O'Gara,Donie,Enda K,Ger H,Gary Cox with possibly Kevin H or Terence Kelly if we have to.
Not very confident but it would be nice to trim Tommy Truck's velvet. :)
Quote from: Rossie11 on February 06, 2010, 12:42:30 PM
From a Ross point of view I wouldnt be anyways confident of doing well.
Relegation is alot more probable than promotion for us. It could be the same as last years Div 3 where Limerick
went down on scoring averages.
It will be a case of which team hits the crowd running and builds up confidence quickly.
From that I believe the form team to be Sligo following last years league and the Kerry performance
I am having a few bob on them to win the division as I think they are shoo-ins to be in top 2.
Fermanagh should be good enough to join them and its take your pick from the rest to be relegated
with the losers of Ross V Cavan this week favs to go.
I think people will find Sligo are being hyped a bit too much for this division in some quarters, I expect Antrim to beat them tomorrow.
Roscommom Team to play Cavan tomorrow announced
Date : 06/02/2010 17:00
Roscommon V Cavan
1. Geoffrey Claffey Geoffraí Mac Liathimh Caisléan Riabhach
2. Sean McDermott Seán Mac Diarmada Gaeil an Iarthair
3. Michael Killelea Mícheál Mac Giolla Léith Caisléan Riabhach
4. Peter Domican Peadar Ó Domgháin Naomh Bríd
5. Niall Carty Niall Ó Cárthaigh Na Piarsaigh
6. Ian Kilbride Eoin Mac Giolla Bhríde Naomh Bríd
7. John Rogers Seán Mac Ruairí Beal na Buillí
8. Michael Finneran Mícheál Ó Finnthírn Naomh Dominic
9. Mark O'Carroll Marcas Ó Cearúill Naomh Bríd
10. Sean Purcell Seán Ó Puirséil Mainistir na Buile
11. David O'Gara Dáithí Ó Gadhra Gaeil Ros Comáin
12. Cathal Cregg Cathal de Creag Gaeil an Iarthair
13. Ger Heneghan Gearard Ó hÉanacháin Caisléan Riabhach
14. Donal Shine Donal Ó Seighin Clann na nGael
15. Enda Kenny Éanna Ó Cionaoith Caisléan Riabhach
16. Mark Miley Marcas Ó Maolaoidh Naomh Dominic
17. Stephen Ormsby Stiofán Armas Naomh Faithleach
18. Colm Garvey Colm Ó Gairbhith Cill Mór
19. Paul Freeman Pól Mac an tSaoir Éire Óg
20. James McDermott Séamas Mac Diarmada Gaeil Ros Comáin
21. Kevin Higgins Caoimhín Ó hUiginn Gaeil an Iarthair
22. Cathal McHugh Cathal MacAodha Naomh Bríd
23. Terrance Kelly Toirleach Ó Ceallaigh Naomh Aodhán
24. Gary Cox Gearoid Mac an Choiligh Naomh Faithleach
Manager: Fergal O'Donnell
Selectors: Stephen Bohan, Mark Dowd, Declan Hoare
Hmmmm...thought Cathal McHugh would have started ...but we'll see.
Reports from the indo today....Fermanagh & Offaly
Which made me rethink Offalys credentials and status in the so called group of slow death!!
They finished last season in 3rd position 3 points off promotion considering their managerial turmoil and with star players away travelling...
They could be a force to be reckoned with alot of teams are overlooking them assisted by a very low profile going into the competition...and with 4 home ties....they could be serious Dark horses!!
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2010, 07:06:08 PM
Roscommom Team to play Cavan tomorrow announced
Date : 06/02/2010 17:00
Roscommon V Cavan
1. Geoffrey Claffey Geoffraí Mac Liathimh Caisléan Riabhach
2. Sean McDermott Seán Mac Diarmada Gaeil an Iarthair
3. Michael Killelea Mícheál Mac Giolla Léith Caisléan Riabhach
4. Peter Domican Peadar Ó Domgháin Naomh Bríd
5. Niall Carty Niall Ó Cárthaigh Na Piarsaigh
6. Ian Kilbride Eoin Mac Giolla Bhríde Naomh Bríd
7. John Rogers Seán Mac Ruairí Beal na Buillí
8. Michael Finneran Mícheál Ó Finnthírn Naomh Dominic
9. Mark O'Carroll Marcas Ó Cearúill Naomh Bríd
10. Sean Purcell Seán Ó Puirséil Mainistir na Buile
11. David O'Gara Dáithí Ó Gadhra Gaeil Ros Comáin
12. Cathal Cregg Cathal de Creag Gaeil an Iarthair
13. Ger Heneghan Gearard Ó hÉanacháin Caisléan Riabhach
14. Donal Shine Donal Ó Seighin Clann na nGael
15. Enda Kenny Éanna Ó Cionaoith Caisléan Riabhach
Is that the same lad who is playin centre back for UUJ??
That's him alright. Used to be in Sligo IT.
Quote from: mattockranger on February 06, 2010, 07:11:31 PM
Reports from the indo today....Fermanagh & Offaly
Which made me rethink Offalys credentials and status in the so called group of slow death!!
They finished last season in 3rd position 3 points off promotion considering their managerial turmoil and with star players away travelling...
They could be a force to be reckoned with alot of teams are overlooking them assisted by a very low profile going into the competition...and with 4 home ties....they could be serious Dark horses!!
Tomorrow will tell a lot. I think Fermanagh are vulnerable to be honest. I dont know enough about Offaly to know whether they'll be able to expose it, but you're right on the home advantage - its very important.
Sligo losing to Antrim by 1pt with 10mins left, poor performance so far
Antrim have won 1pt, fcking disaster
That Oceanfm commentator should be shot, "sean davey its over the bar, great score oh its taled wide," >:(
Only ourselves to blame, had the chances, workrate was good though. We arent as good as everyone thinks and I include myself in that. Congrats to Antrim.
Fermanagh down by 3 in Tullamore
Hard to say who the favourite is for Division 3.
There may not be much between top place and bottom place...
Quote from: Caid on February 07, 2010, 04:05:04 PM
Hard to say who the favourite is for Division 3.
There may not be much between top place and bottom place...
Every county has the ability to beat one another in this division
Quote from: mattockranger on February 06, 2010, 07:13:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2010, 07:06:08 PM
Roscommom Team to play Cavan tomorrow announced
Date : 06/02/2010 17:00
Roscommon V Cavan
1. Geoffrey Claffey Geoffraí Mac Liathimh Caisléan Riabhach
2. Sean McDermott Seán Mac Diarmada Gaeil an Iarthair
3. Michael Killelea Mícheál Mac Giolla Léith Caisléan Riabhach
4. Peter Domican Peadar Ó Domgháin Naomh Bríd
5. Niall Carty Niall Ó Cárthaigh Na Piarsaigh
6. Ian Kilbride Eoin Mac Giolla Bhríde Naomh Bríd
7. John Rogers Seán Mac Ruairí Beal na Buillí
8. Michael Finneran Mícheál Ó Finnthírn Naomh Dominic
9. Mark O'Carroll Marcas Ó Cearúill Naomh Bríd
10. Sean Purcell Seán Ó Puirséil Mainistir na Buile
11. David O'Gara Dáithí Ó Gadhra Gaeil Ros Comáin
12. Cathal Cregg Cathal de Creag Gaeil an Iarthair
13. Ger Heneghan Gearard Ó hÉanacháin Caisléan Riabhach
14. Donal Shine Donal Ó Seighin Clann na nGael
15. Enda Kenny Éanna Ó Cionaoith Caisléan Riabhach
Is that the same lad who is playin centre back for UUJ??
Yep, same man.
Quote from: FermPundit on February 07, 2010, 03:42:10 PM
Fermanagh down by 3 in Tullamore
Good start for Offaly. Important to pick up points at home. I think it's Wexford away next, always tough but if we can get anything there, we'd be starting to shape up. Roscommon got some beating today!
Just off the phone to my Dad, very disappointed, he said it was a game we could of won easy, but deserved nothing for our sheer stupidity.
Said Quinn did well again, was exposed when the midfielders were coming through and passed over him to his man, but not his fault. Said McGuire did ok, and J Davey played well. Marren was our main scorer 0-7 and did well but sometimes slowfrom play but not afraid to shoot. Brehony and Coen did ok. Wont comment on the players who had a bad day as Dad said they 100%.
As a team we gave away the ball the whole time, workrate was good though whch is worrying, considering Quinner said we are flying fit to me so no excuses.
This is what really pissed Dad off, and it pisses him off every week, the manager and his 3 selectors, just stand in the one spot the whole game and talk to each other, dont budge. Hes a great believer in manager and selectors a little spread out and showing some passion and the manager seperating himself. And if so many players played Bad, only 1 change Sean Davey on for Ewing. Explain that. I have to agree with him though wrecks my head aswell but if he gets the results I dont care, just different strokes, he didnt on this occasion.
My biggest fear is our age old habit. Many of ye outside Sligo may not be aware of. We beat Mayo by 14pts in u21 and lost well to Ros in final, we beat Galway in Minor and lost Leitrim in Final, we beat Mayo in 2000 and got hammered by Galway, we had great 2002 ad followed up 2003 tamely, won Connacht 2007 and disaster 2008, decent 2009 now what? Anytime we are favs or have a good yr we never kick on, what was I thinking? I'll put it this way the next day louth at home is make or break, we either show some bottle or forget about promotion.
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
Not sure they have an act!! :-[
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
At home against arguably one of the poorer teams in the division as well. A long year ahead for the rossies by the looks of things.
Should their world champion minors not be making some inroads at senior level by now? They'll only be 21/22 so it's far too early to write them off altogether, but you'd have thought at Div 3 level they'd start to have an impact.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 07, 2010, 05:38:06 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
At home against arguably one of the poorer teams in the division as well. A long year ahead for the rossies by the looks of things.
Should their world champion minors not be making some inroads at senior level by now? They'll only be 21/22 so it's far too early to write them off altogether, but you'd have thought at Div 3 level they'd start to have an impact.
I wonder what the housing stock is like in Ballaghadereen, Mayo Co. board could buy a few cheap and sell them cheaper to the great Rossie minor team lads, then they could truely get a chance to thrive at Senior Inter-county level. ;D
Alot of Class in mayo...all mouth today gmail....im not from Roscommon but hate seeing kicking someone when theyre down.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 07, 2010, 06:05:36 PM
Alot of Class in mayo...all mouth today gmail....im not from Roscommon but hate seeing kicking someone when theyre down.
O cry me a river, you're just a little touchy after Antrim today. Getting offended on other peoples behalf now are you Sligonian, thought Sligo was the centre of Your Universe. I'm not kicking Roscommon at all, feck sake, I actually genuinely disappointed that they lost and lost by so much, I would consider them part of the big 3 of Connacht football ;D . They along with Cavan are part of the aristocracy of football, so expect more from both those counties than their current lowly positions.
Good win for Offaly.
Fermanagh had their corner back Marty O'Brien sent off late in the first half for something the umpire brought to the referee's attention to.
Possibly for striking Ken Casey off the ball?
As often happens Offaly didn't always use that numerical advantage cleverly.
A second half deflected goal from Ciaran McManus proved to be the difference. Fermanagh had a couple of half changes in front of goal near to end to snatch a draw.
Its nearly 3 years since Offaly have lost a league game in Tullamore, so having 3 more home games in the league will be an advantage.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
Hardly kicking them when they're down? As for the next post, he was making a bit of a joke. Hard luck yourself against Antrim SLIGONIAN, I believe Sligo just fell short and nearly pipped them. That I heard from MWR coming home from Castlebar.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 07, 2010, 05:38:06 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
At home against arguably one of the poorer teams in the division as well. A long year ahead for the rossies by the looks of things.
Should their world champion minors not be making some inroads at senior level by now? They'll only be 21/22 so it's far too early to write them off altogether, but you'd have thought at Div 3 level they'd start to have an impact.
Ros started with four of the 2006 minors today and midway through the first half, one of them - Donie Shine - looked like he was going to beat Cavan on his own, kicking some wonderful long range frees, and an excellent goal, helping Ros to a 5 point lead. However a bit like Mayo last year (except it didn't happen in first 15 mins), once Cavan got into their stride, Roscommon offered a pityful resistance. The team unfortunately has no leaders, is too light weight, no midfield, no one to take a score other than Shine and sad to say but this is looking like another tortuorous year. That said, I think our U21s will put up a good show this year and we'll just have to wait a few years before we are any kind of force at senior level again. Well done to Cavan today. Along with ourselves they are considered favourites for the drop to Div 4 - but they will take a few more scalps yet.
Quote from: Turlough O Carolan on February 07, 2010, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 07, 2010, 05:38:06 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
At home against arguably one of the poorer teams in the division as well. A long year ahead for the rossies by the looks of things.
Should their world champion minors not be making some inroads at senior level by now? They'll only be 21/22 so it's far too early to write them off altogether, but you'd have thought at Div 3 level they'd start to have an impact.
Ros started with four of the 2006 minors today and midway through the first half, one of them - Donie Shine - looked like he was going to beat Cavan on his own, kicking some wonderful long range frees, and an excellent goal, helping Ros to a 5 point lead. However a bit like Mayo last year (except it didn't happen in first 15 mins), once Cavan got into their stride, Roscommon offered a pityful resistance. The team unfortunately has no leaders, is too light weight, no midfield, no one to take a score other than Shine and sad to say but this is looking like another tortuorous year. That said, I think our U21s will put up a good show this year and we'll just have to wait a few years before we are any kind of force at senior level again. Well done to Cavan today. Along with ourselves they are considered favourites for the drop to Div 4 - but they will take a few more scalps yet.
Fair enough, I suppose the problem is that rather than trying to blend in your young lads with the established players, you're almost trying to build a new team from scratch with them because the existing players in the 24-30 age bracket aren't good enough. We won't write off the 06 minors for another couple of years yet then.
Poor stuff today. Looks like division 4 for next year but we'll keep the faith.
Well done Cavan by the way.
That was some display
Quote from: Turlough O Carolan on February 07, 2010, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 07, 2010, 05:38:06 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
At home against arguably one of the poorer teams in the division as well. A long year ahead for the rossies by the looks of things.
Should their world champion minors not be making some inroads at senior level by now? They'll only be 21/22 so it's far too early to write them off altogether, but you'd have thought at Div 3 level they'd start to have an impact.
Ros started with four of the 2006 minors today and midway through the first half, one of them - Donie Shine - looked like he was going to beat Cavan on his own, kicking some wonderful long range frees, and an excellent goal, helping Ros to a 5 point lead. However a bit like Mayo last year (except it didn't happen in first 15 mins), once Cavan got into their stride, Roscommon offered a pityful resistance. The team unfortunately has no leaders, is too light weight, no midfield, no one to take a score other than Shine and sad to say but this is looking like another tortuorous year. That said, I think our U21s will put up a good show this year and we'll just have to wait a few years before we are any kind of force at senior level again. Well done to Cavan today. Along with ourselves they are considered favourites for the drop to Div 4 - but they will take a few more scalps yet.
Your Goalkeeper was a big problem today lads,he must have kicked it to a Cavan man 6 or 7 times today.Some of your fans were saying he was one of your best players last year so maybe an off-day for him. Overall your distribution out of defence was very poor today and made it easy for Cavan. You's aren't as bad as you's showed today. Man that Donie Shine is some act.A few more men around him and you's could still make an impact but like Cavan yas need a few midfielders.
Thought cavan were very good and even when ross were a few points up it was always cavan that looked the most dangerous.
Very disappointed with yesterday and was very disillusioned with the approach of the team as they looked disinterested and jaded.
Cavan however were very good and if they can hold their heads and not let this inflate their confidence will be very hard beat by any team ths year.
It was a very impressive preformance.
Agree claffey was off form but thought the movement for the short kick outs were very poor anyway.
Not looking forward to heading to enniskillen this saturday more in hope than expectation.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:44:10 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 07, 2010, 05:38:06 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
At home against arguably one of the poorer teams in the division as well. A long year ahead for the rossies by the looks of things.
Should their world champion minors not be making some inroads at senior level by now? They'll only be 21/22 so it's far too early to write them off altogether, but you'd have thought at Div 3 level they'd start to have an impact.
I wonder what the housing stock is like in Ballaghadereen, Mayo Co. board could buy a few cheap and sell them cheaper to the great Rossie minor team lads, then they could truely get a chance to thrive at Senior Inter-county level. ;D
The post in full and in bold the kicking them when they were down i was refering to .
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 08, 2010, 04:29:26 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:44:10 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 07, 2010, 05:38:06 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 07, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
Ros Comáin 1-10 An Cabhán 2-20 in Dr.Hyde, feck sake Roscommon would need to get their act together.
At home against arguably one of the poorer teams in the division as well. A long year ahead for the rossies by the looks of things.
Should their world champion minors not be making some inroads at senior level by now? They'll only be 21/22 so it's far too early to write them off altogether, but you'd have thought at Div 3 level they'd start to have an impact.
I wonder what the housing stock is like in Ballaghadereen, Mayo Co. board could buy a few cheap and sell them cheaper to the great Rossie minor team lads, then they could truely get a chance to thrive at Senior Inter-county level. ;D
The post in full and in bold the kicking them when they were down i was refering to .
Not one Rossie took offence, all took at as the usual Mayo-Ros banter over Ballagh, at least Parsons was on a winning team last sunday, whats the Charlestown-Bellaghy housing stock like these days? ;D
Disappointing result for Sligo. Listening to Ocean FM (as I drove past Parsons home place as it happens) it seemed we could have got a draw out of it. Unfortunately came up empty handed. Antrim are a good team and not many will beat them up there but I just thought without the Galls lads we should have done it.
As I felt at the outset this is going to be an incredibly tight league. 5 wins will put you close or maybe get you promotion. Sligo (and all the others) who lost last weekend need to get off the mark next weekend. Louth and ourselves have had some good battles in recent years. Should be a good one.
Ros for Sam 2010
Coming home from the game in drogheda yesterday...
I felt we made hard work of the win.....especially considering wexford were without their 3 top forwards
Our half Forward line is clueless...and very defensive minded and a full forward line who's idea of link play is to look up and if their mothers not there then you aint getting it....
Our defence put under pressure will creak especially our full back line although i thought hoey at CHB was a calming presence
to be honest I think the 2 teams in drogheda , along with the Rossies will be scrapping it out for safety....my hope and
The difference between us and the rest of the teams in this division is Paddy keenan....if anything happens him we become very ordinary he might keep us up single handedly
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on February 08, 2010, 07:41:54 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on February 08, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
Ros for Sam 2010
Thats the spirit ;)
Aye . We can concentrate on giving London a game and dont be worrying about th'oul League ::)
Disaster day but sure we'll improve .......................... 8)
Wont we? :o
Quote from: Rossfan on February 08, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
Aye . We can concentrate on giving London a game and dont be worrying about th'oul League ::)
Disaster day but sure we'll improve .......................... 8)
Wont we? :o
I don't know, but if this isn't a wake up call, it's time to give up. Theres a 6 page thread on Stolen Sheep outlining where Fergie's going wrong, some posters outlining what he needs to do
to win an all-ireland. :o
Honestly, like...
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 09, 2010, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 08, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
Aye . We can concentrate on giving London a game and dont be worrying about th'oul League ::)
Disaster day but sure we'll improve .......................... 8)
Wont we? :o
I don't know, but if this isn't a wake up call, it's time to give up. Theres a 6 page thread on Stolen Sheep outlining where Fergie's going wrong, some posters outlining what he needs to do to win an all-ireland.
:o
Honestly, like...
The same usual muck from rossie fans.
Start analysing where the manager is doing things wrong when in fact the simple problem lies with the players not being in the county.End of story we dont have the players at the moment.
The manager has proved his worth already and in my eyes shouldnt have taken the job in the first place because its a poisoned chalice.
He should have been given the u21 job first and then work with the same group of players all the way but no in roscommon we as usual put the cart before the horse.
The clubs in the county wont play the championship until the county is finished in the championship which is a big problem in my eyes.
Numerous motions brought to the convention have been defeated on this over the years.
Optimism is a big part of every rossie fans life and even when i was walking into the game sunday i said to the missus i have a good feeling about this year and that it good one to remember.I wont repeat what she said to me with ten minutes to go.
Alas we probably have to endure another year of pain.
I have my tickets booked for london but if the league continues on a same level as sunday i genuinely fear for that game.
Anyone from fermanagh down in tullamore sunday?
What do you fancy about youre chances on saturday?
I will be travelling but not with much expectation.
There is always hope for Roscommon. Good bunch of U21s and if there was a transfer system in GAA how much would Shine be worth?
In fairness shine was the one bright light coming from the match sunday.
The problem is 3 or 4 forwards around him and our lack of a midfield.
Our u21s should do well this year and the future looks bright but i remember saying that back in 1999 as well ::)
One of two things couls happen on saturday in enniskillen.
Ros taking the beating on sunday to heart and come out all guns blazing or fermanagh will just devour us like dogs and heap more misery on us.
I know which one ill be backing.
Quote from: rossie mad on February 09, 2010, 12:19:30 PM
In fairness shine was the one bright light coming from the match sunday.
The problem is 3 or 4 forwards around him and our lack of a midfield.
Our u21s should do well this year and the future looks bright but i remember saying that back in 1999 as well ::)
One of two things couls happen on saturday in enniskillen.
Ros taking the beating on sunday to heart and come out all guns blazing or fermanagh will just devour us like dogs and heap more misery on us.
I know which one ill be backing.
Well if yas win a Connacht title by 2012 you would have to be happy?
One thing I have noted about Ros under this management is that there seems to have been a total clearout of men in their late 20's to be replaced by lads still learning. For me, for young lads to prosper they need older hands to bring them through. Ros are in danger of throwing these young lads to the wolves and basically destroying them. There are only so many hammerings you can get before you start to question your ability and your morale slips away as does your dedication to the cause. That would be my biggest fear for Roscommon. Surely there has to be some semi experienced older lads in a county the size of roscommon that are not wasters and would be interested in playing county football?
No disrespect to Cavan as bad as Roscommon are they should not be losing By 13 points at home, but I'm afraid it's a sign of things to come this year, Quite clearly the Rossies best player's are 21/22 Year olds with only a hand full of county Games among them, to much too expect them to carry the team!
when the Rossies won their Last Connaught Title (In 2001) they had many Leaders in Grehan, Dolan, O Donnell & even a Young O' Neill & these players were replaced by leaderless Average Club Players
it's gonna take some time for the Rebuilding to be complete but i believe the Future will be brighter for Roscommon
Ya the Ross result was a shock even to Cavan people especially without Jonston. Ross is a bit of an enigma, I know a fair few rossies, and they were always worried the AI team wouldnt come through becuase there was no stars in that team and everyone was of even eonugh ability with shine and ogara the leaders...
I can only see ross improving from last weekend, first day out and all that but would expect Fermanagh to beat them.
Huge game for us on Sunday against the wee county, I was at the game in doudalls hill in dundalk in 2008, some decent players for sure unlucky not make a bigger break through a few yrs ago. We gave away 2 soft goals in quick succession but enough of the bad memories, theyre coming to our patch this time and should be worth a few points to us. Have to win.
Hope McGee makes the squad, hope to see a few changes aswell to 15 with midfield being a priority. Hope theres decent home support aswell. Best of luck to our lads.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2010, 01:52:26 PM
One thing I have noted about Ros under this management is that there seems to have been a total clearout of men in their late 20's ..... Surely there has to be some semi experienced older lads in a county the size of roscommon that are not wasters and would be interested in playing county football?
Problem is 10 or 15 years of very poor under age teams is coming home to roost.
We have damn all of Inter Co standard between 23 and 32.
On Sunday we scored 1-10 all but one point from the class of 06...Shine ,Paul Garvey and O'Gara. Donie and Paul are U 21s this year.
There is only one serious midfielder over 22 in Ros ..Seamie O'Neill who I'm told is no longer interested. The 2 lads last Sunday are not inter co footballers and neither are the 2 second choices ..James McDermott and Freeman.
Defence was over run due to total weakness in the middle third. After all 1-10 isnt a bad score in Div 3 in February .
Next Saturday in Enniskillen could be painful but I suspect we'll be going defensive in puke blanket style and hope Donie and co. can get enough scores to get something out of a terrible game of football.
Quote from: rossie mad on February 09, 2010, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on February 09, 2010, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 08, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
Aye . We can concentrate on giving London a game and dont be worrying about th'oul League ::)
Disaster day but sure we'll improve .......................... 8)
Wont we? :o
I don't know, but if this isn't a wake up call, it's time to give up. Theres a 6 page thread on Stolen Sheep outlining where Fergie's going wrong, some posters outlining what he needs to do to win an all-ireland.
:o
Honestly, like...
The same usual muck from rossie fans.
Start analysing where the manager is doing things wrong when in fact the simple problem lies with the players not being in the county.End of story we dont have the players at the moment.
The manager has proved his worth already and in my eyes shouldnt have taken the job in the first place because its a poisoned chalice.
He should have been given the u21 job first and then work with the same group of players all the way but no in roscommon we as usual put the cart before the horse.
The clubs in the county wont play the championship until the county is finished in the championship which is a big problem in my eyes.
Numerous motions brought to the convention have been defeated on this over the years.
Optimism is a big part of every rossie fans life and even when i was walking into the game sunday i said to the missus i have a good feeling about this year and that it good one to remember.I wont repeat what she said to me with ten minutes to go.
Alas we probably have to endure another year of pain.
I have my tickets booked for london but if the league continues on a same level as sunday i genuinely fear for that game.
Anyone from fermanagh down in tullamore sunday?
What do you fancy about youre chances on saturday?
I will be travelling but not with much expectation.
we will have a very experimental team on Saturday
Missing McGrath, McCluskey, E maguire, B Owens to name a few.
Ronan and Rory Gallagher played last weekend but can't see them playing this weekend because of the St Gall's game.
Of our starting 6 forwards last weekend, 4 were 23 or younger.
It will be tigher than you think. We will be happy with a win.
Quote from: boojangles on February 08, 2010, 01:25:03 AM
Your Goalkeeper was a big problem today lads,he must have kicked it to a Cavan man 6 or 7 times today.Some of your fans were saying he was one of your best players last year so maybe an off-day for him.
He had a disastrous day with his kick-outs all right, but Cavan played a clever tactic in bringing out one of their forwards to midfield for the kick-outs every time, while his man generally stayed inside in defence. Unfortunately, our kick-outs arrowed like a magnet to the free man nearly every time, until the sideline lads noticed & there was a slight improvement in the way the kick-outs were placed thereafter. To be fair to him, he's way better than that, hopefully it's just a bad day at the office. When the midfielders aren't there, it's time for a Plan B or C even.
A lack of experience & lack of leadership are at the root of our problems. Too many of the young lads were expeditiously drafted into the side for the 2008 league campaign, after the older lads had been prematurely dispensed with. Unsurprisingly, that's when we started experiencing large defeats - you have to hope it hasn't drained our lads confidence totally at this stage. We've gone over that ground before in any case, so no need to do so again. This is just the inevitable consequence of that expediency which we're seeing now.
We have to hope that another game or two will bring us on & lead to an overall general improvement, but as Rossfan sez there, it's probably back to firefighting with a defensive, possession-holding gameplan for the next few games.
Fair play to Cavan, good accurate forwards & a lively side with plenty of movement .
Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2010, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2010, 01:52:26 PM
One thing I have noted about Ros under this management is that there seems to have been a total clearout of men in their late 20's ..... Surely there has to be some semi experienced older lads in a county the size of roscommon that are not wasters and would be interested in playing county football?
Problem is 10 or 15 years of very poor under age teams is coming home to roost.
We have damn all of Inter Co standard between 23 and 32.
On Sunday we scored 1-10 all but one point from the class of 06...Shine ,Paul Garvey and O'Gara. Donie and Paul are U 21s this year.
There is only one serious midfielder over 22 in Ros ..Seamie O'Neill who I'm told is no longer interested. The 2 lads last Sunday are not inter co footballers and neither are the 2 second choices ..James McDermott and Freeman.
Defence was over run due to total weakness in the middle third. After all 1-10 isnt a bad score in Div 3 in February .
Next Saturday in Enniskillen could be painful but I suspect we'll be going defensive in puke blanket style and hope Donie and co. can get enough scores to get something out of a terrible game of football.
I wonder why you didn't get more out of the minors of 2006.
I'd say you had a few minor and u21 sides in recent years that appeared to be half-decent – at least by Connacht standards. Right now, you seem to be getting some results from the minors of 2006 but it will take another year or two before they will be able to play to their full potential.
Rossies take their football seriously; even meaningless league games will draw more supporters than any of the other Connacht sides. At least, that was the case up to 5 years ago or thereabouts when I last saw a Mayo/ Roscommon game.
What has gone wrong?
Its hard to put a finger on one specific problem without coming up with a load of conspiracy theories.
I know the experience is threadbare in terms of grinding out results but we have gary cox karol mannion and seanie mac and claffey in goals and the experience should be there with them guys.
Good footballers who have been around the block.
Even cregg and david keenan are there the last 3 or 4 years and they should be gainining experience.
The class of 06 as well as the years that follow have to play at some stage and the days of saying they are not able for it are fast running out.
The fact that we are very proud county with yearly high expectations probably doesnt help pressure wise and thats something we as supporters have to listen too but you dont want to be beat by ten points or more every 3/4 games either.
The system for nurturing talent in the county has only been in place the last 3/4 years and was as a direct result of what happened in 06 so the future looks bright but i read recently that three or four of last years minor team that should have beaten mayo and kerry are now playing with the irish u19 squad which doesnt help but thats the chioces the lads have to make for themselves and the best of luck to them which ever one they make.
I firmly believe we are not as bad as last sunday suggests but i also believe that we have alot of work to do before we start dreaming of connacht titles and runs in the championship.
The standard in the clubs isnt there in my eyes and bar a few games over the years ive been too it is fairly obvious to a neutral its not.
People are suggesting bring back the likes of grehan and dolan but whats the point.
They wouldnt bring anything to it now as they are past that standard and anyway i couldnt see them abiding by the strict regime so thats a no no.
If we can produce a performance on saturday its a start and we have a couple of home games to maybe pick up points and hopefully avoid the drop and maybe in the next year if we beat leitrim in the championship and get a good qualifier run it might bring lads on another bit and its an extra years experience but its a long road ahead
I have to say i haven't enjoyed a thread as much in a long time.... :D
I think there is a lot of similarities with roscommon in connacht with laois in Leinster.
Excellent nurturing of underage talent....gaining success and then either by players disinterest..and fans expected pressure they fail
to kick on and have the same success at senior level....limerick underage hurling is another example
The main point to take away is positive, you guys are doing good things but not following up on them i think the county is learning curve and as soon as they figure out...by taking these beatings now....will stand to you in the future
lord knows coming from louth its a nice complaint to have
QuoteI think there is a lot of similarities with roscommon in connacht with laois in Leinster.
Too early to draw any parallels. Ros won a minor AI in 2006 and before that had not won a Connacht minor title since 1992. So our under age progress is very recent and even if all was on track we would not expect any senior success yet given most of the 06 minors are still around 21. Havig said that we need to learn from the Laois and Limerick experience to ensure that the progress made at under age is not wasted.
A major factor though is the fact that young players are coming in to a team with few quality experienced players. Kerry can introduce 3 or 4 young players any year and slot them alongside vastly experienced players and they can settle and develop. This is our biggest problem and there is a huge risk that young players will not develop or else just drift away.
Don't know about other Cavan posters but I'm hoping last Sunday wasn't a false dawn. Roscomon scored 1 10 which lets face it could win a game.
A trueish reflection will be the Antrim game and I say trueish as the team should be out for payback after last year's defeat in Clones and so their intensity should be up.
We'll see.
Our trip to Wexford Park will be very interesting next weekend. We have an abysmal record down there, in both hurling and football. If we have aspirations of getting promoted, we must get something down there, and pick up our record away from home. I think BnM highlighted Offaly's good record in Tullamore in the league, but our away record has been poor apart from in Division 4. A good sign for Offaly last weekend was we managed to squeak by Fermanagh with Niall McNamee being poor. Hopefully we'll have a bigger showing from him on Sunday.
Wexford will be mad for road after losing up in Louth, but they are the games you want and want to be winning. We shall see.
Two days to go to see whether last sunday was just a freak accident or to face up to the fact we really are that bad.
No team named as yet and i would hope fergie will rejig the forwards with heneghan and kenny dropped with maybe young higgins in around the middle third and gary cox given some sort of a supporting role to shine and ogara two man full forward line.
Thats just me though and im sure fergie will do what is best.
Cant see us winning this but would be pleased with a good performance to build on for our home games.
I hear fermanagh is missing a few of their big names like owens and mcgrath which is a help but i still think that with the experience of the rest of their squad and their ability to grind out results at home will give them the points.
In the other matchs in the group i expect offaly to just pip wexford but could easily be a draw.
If cavan bring the same level of enthuasism as last sunday into their game against antrim i expect them to come out on top.
I expect sligo to be just too strong for louth and will win with 3 or four points to spare.
All games i can envisage being very tight (bar the rossie game) and the table will probably have cavan as outright leaders come sunday evening and four teams in a dog fight for the second place.
Louth will have the same line up as last week with darren Clarke coming on to the bench instead of one of the U21's
who incidently will be playin sligoU21s over the weekend aswell.....(what are they like sligonian? we reckon we've a good team this year)
Its good to have a settled team...especially this time of the year lads beginning to know their role and be confident of their place ...
We will travel well the players will travel in high spirits but the county and supporters will be wary of sligo especially at home and on the back of a tight loss....
should be tight and very interesting....
But it will be our first outing this season against a solid and competitive side....it will be a real test of character for our lads...if our full back line gets protection it desperately needs...against Coen sweeney and Kelly and if our strengths the half back line and midfield play up to par with Ronan Carroll showing some consistency after last weeks excellent performance we could sneak a win....
Elsewhere I expect antrim defence to squeeze Cavan without seanie in brefini and get a second win without the galls players to establish themselves as promotion favourites
Offaly in Wexford depends on wexfords forward line.....whether lyng starts or not he is worth at least 6 points to wexford...and i also seen Banville last week being put through his paces so he could figure also...abit similar to louth, offaly on the back of a win will face a test of character away from home..i reckon they will get the win.
Roscommon might have a show in pride after last week and shock fermanagh at home without some influential stars..could be bet of the weekend...
Fermanagh need to win this game and i expect them too. Offaly have not lost at home in 3 years so it is not such a surprise that Fermanagh lost
Now that the dust has settled I reckon Cavan's perfrormance can be summed up as follows. There was plenty of intelligent play in our fowards, i.e. not running down blind alleys and switching the play when the pass was on. The shooting was extremely accurate and the the all-round tackling was reasonably good. The problem is that we gained possession to do all the good attacking not by dominating midfield but by Roscommon's carelessness with the ball. Their passing was very poor and they also couldn't break the tackle. Our midfield is weak and we need a full-back. I think we'll probably score plenty when we get it but I doubt we'll get much. It'll be tight, too tight to call at this time of the year so I'm hopeful of a similar level of effort and performance than anything else. It's all us Breffni boys hope for these days.
I had high hopes until the manager was appointed, all to do with the politics in sligo gaa. We have serious talent, I was at the minor game a few yrs ago against Galway, Sligo were 9-3 down and leveled with 10 to go and galway were on the rack but one of players got injured who was having a stormer and we had used all our subs and ended up losing. We'd Gavin and Darren Gilsenan, N Guaghan, K Cawley, Patrick Greene, D Maye, P Clarke, etc...all top notch players and more. Look we might not win anything at underage because its the Sligo way but there are plenty of players for Sligo Seniors on this panel. I heard they lost to Donegal last weekend, the manager was appointed late and I dont rate him but sure but i still expect us to turn Galway over in Carrick in paddys weekend. Weve won plenty despite poor management in the past. Seanies right they went on to win All Ireland but certainly didnt play like champions the day they played us. We can catch them cold again and Im sure our lads are looking forward to it.
Sligo Squad to take on Louth on Sunday February 14th in Markievicz Park in the 2nd Round of the National Football League Throw in is at 2-30pm
TEAM
Philip Greene, Charlie Harrison,Noel McGuire,Ross Donavan,Neil Ewing,Mark Quinn, Johnny Davey,Eugene Mullen,Tony Taylor,Alan Costello, Mark Breheny, Adrian Marren,Stephen Coen,Francis Quinn, David Kelly.
SUBS
Jason Farrell,Conor Davey,Keelan Cawley,Brian Kennedy,Stephen Gilmartin, Sean Davey,Shane Stenson,Colm McGee , Gary Gaughan
There are passengers on that team simple as that. We are fcked against mayo if management dont wake up. I heard sweeney was injured all right.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2010, 01:52:26 PM
One thing I have noted about Ros under this management is that there seems to have been a total clearout of men in their late 20's to be replaced by lads still learning. For me, for young lads to prosper they need older hands to bring them through. Ros are in danger of throwing these young lads to the wolves and basically destroying them. There are only so many hammerings you can get before you start to question your ability and your morale slips away as does your dedication to the cause. That would be my biggest fear for Roscommon. Surely there has to be some semi experienced older lads in a county the size of roscommon that are not wasters and would be interested in playing county football?
it was mainly Maughan and Carr before him that jettisoned many of the players who should now be leading the team.
Maughan set us back years
the clubs need to get serious about the club championship and get more competitive games for players.
and there are so few clubs in Roscommon that no talented players can be lost
Quote from: hardstation on February 11, 2010, 11:46:17 PM
Antrim lads very quiet on here....
Could be fear....Cavan 2-20..........
Cute Antrim hoors HS!
Hard to know what to make of the antrim cavan game.
Question is have cavan improved or are roscommon just that bad.
Antrim did well to beat sligo. Still very depleted without the st galls boys.
Don't know what to make of the match...
Sounds like cavan have a quality free taker so better keep the discipline!
Still, optimistically, Antrim by two.
Quote from: rossie mad on February 12, 2010, 12:24:54 AM
Unfortunately we have not much in the way of the above but what we do have is youth and time and if we get a year where we stay in div 3,beat leitrim and two qualifier wins then i will be very happy.
God bless the Rossie optimism. Coming from nowhere and sets the benchmark for contentment at an All Ireland semi final appearance. :D
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2010, 11:56:15 PM
Hard to know what to make of the antrim cavan game.
Question is have cavan improved or are roscommon just that bad.
Antrim did well to beat sligo. Still very depleted without the st galls boys.
Don't know what to make of the match...
Sounds like cavan have a quality free taker so better keep the discipline!
Still, optimistically, Antrim by two.
Roscommon really were that bad..I wont be judging our boys until I see how they fare against Antrim
Me too put-it-up, although you'd have to feel that if we played at such a high tilt against an admittedly poor Roscommon team, then we will have enough to sneak a win against a much better but also much weakened Antrim who don't have the St. Galls crew.
Either way it'll tell us a bit more about where we are, what you'd fear most is a Jekyll and Hyde type slump, the sort of which we got all through last year's league. I think we can sneak it by a point or two though, when you add the chmapionship defeat into the motivation tank I think we might want it a shade more than them.
Looking forward to the game tomorrow an awful lot... Hopefully another good performance and attitude across 1 - 15 will happen and then hopefully the result will follow.
Just realised that the rugby game starts at 4.30 so I'll get to stay at home and watch it and won't have to cut it short before heading to the Home of Football!!
I think Antrim will provide a different challenge for cavan.They may be missing the St Galls crew but they will operate very much as a team unit, I expect their running to be good, their team work and work rate to be good. Roscommon fell apart against Cavan and we prospered but I think Antrim will be much tougher test and if i were a betting man I might put a few bob on the Saffrons to win unfortunatley.
Quote from: rossie mad on February 12, 2010, 12:24:54 AM
Lar the ross as a genuine connacht contender this year is very hard to see.
We may get to the final but will be very lucky not to get beat well by yourselves or galway.
Looking at it at this stage the Connacht Final has the makings of a complete massacre. Sligo, Galway or Mayo v Leitrim, Roscommon or London. Don't see how a 10 point + drubbing on a big occasion like that would do any of those three any good. A case for seeding the draw in future perhaps?
(Controversial idea, I know.)
Quote from: rossie mad on February 12, 2010, 12:24:54 AM
Unfortunately we have not much in the way of the above but what we do have is youth and time and if we get a year where we stay in div 3,beat leitrim and two qualifier wins then i will be very happy.
However next year then will be either our calling from the wilderness or another anus horriblis.
I hope a good crowd travels to enniskillen on saturday and last sunday doesnt put that many off.
Would relegation really be such a disaster for Roscommon if it comes to it? If you're not Div 3 standard at the moment there's no point being there, in Div 4 you could get some wins, build the confidence of the younger lads and improve from there.
I reckon Cavan will beat us tbh, though hope I'm wrong obviously. Looking forward to it anyway.
Not a great Wexford team named for Sunday. Very weak looking midfield but at least Ciaran Lyng is back in the forwards. For some reason the manager is keeping a few of the better lads on the bench, Wexford can't afford to be messing around like that. Badly need a win against offally, not sure we'ill get it.
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i believe the one of the Reason why Roscommon are so bad is having to play in Division three in the First place!
when Rocommon were a division 1 team Beating the likes of Dublin, Donegal Tyrone & Kerry we were then able to at least compete in connaught with Mayo & Galway!
off course today is a different story getting hammered by the likes of armagh, fermanagh & Cavan in the league & when it comes to the championship Galway beat us by 18pts & mayo by 20pts becomes no surprise
the answer to our problem's is Roscommon players need to pull themselves together somehow in the remaining fixtures & restore some pride & work from there....
Hmm interesting theory Ross4life but when Roscommon were beating these teams in the league they had the players to beat these teams.
They do not now.
I can't remember all of Ross's players granted but Grehan, O'Neill in MF, the boy who scored one of the best goals I've seen from midfield for your good club side, a wing half back and one or two others were good players. Also Frankie Dolan, when head not up backside, was a cracking player too.
You don't have those quality of players now. Your man Shine sounds good but not seen him in action.
Also those guys were experienced.
Just going to ask the Antrim posters was there any reason the Gallaghers flayed for us last weekend and
their club mates did not play for Antrim??
Milltown row would know...
I giuess maybe because some played sigerson they chose to.
You couldn't really have one st galls boy play for antrim and not all of them.
Just a theory mind as I've no idea really but I would guess they asked to.
Quote from: FermGael on February 12, 2010, 09:38:46 PM
Just going to ask the Antrim posters was there any reason the Gallaghers flayed for us last weekend and
their club mates did not play for Antrim??
Yes, Malachy O'Rourke asked them to, whereas Baker didn't.
Wrong approach by the Ernemen IMHO given that Antrim won whereas Fermanagh lost.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2010, 09:32:28 PM
Hmm interesting theory Ross4life but when Roscommon were beating these teams in the league they had the players to beat these teams.
They do not now.
I can't remember all of Ross's players granted but Grehan, O'Neill in MF, the boy who scored one of the best goals I've seen from midfield for your good club side, a wing half back and one or two others were good players. Also Frankie Dolan, when head not up backside, was a cracking player too.
You don't have those quality of players now. Your man Shine sounds good but not seen him in action.
Also those guys were experienced.
i did say one of the reasons ;)
indeed we don't have the players now but playing in division 4 won't help the better players
my belief is in a few years time we should have estabished Senior players like Cregg, Keenan, Shine, Kilbride, Ormsby, Domican & hopefully some more young players from the minor 2007/2008/2009 teams will make it at the senior grade
as the saying goes.... rome wasn't built in a day & it's gonna take a lot of PATIENCE from us Rossies before then
Come on Antrim!
Roscommon lose by a point with the goal in the last kick of the match >:( while cavan are beaten at home by 9pts
Roscommon were truely awful tonight, Fermanagh were even worst and the ref even worst than that!!!
Roscommon must have kicked over 10 wides and had 75% of the ball but done nothing with it. Fermanagh could not get a ball in midfield. With Fermanagh only fielding about 4 of last years championship team it is clear to see we need some of last years men back quick!!! We have a small playing pool and don't have the strength in depth which was clear tonight.
We robbed Roscommon tonight, but a win is a win at the end of the day. And I will try to take some positives, this list will not be long!!
1) Blobby won everything that came to him (all about 4 balls) and looked a real outlet.
2) James Sherry looked decent in midfield
3) Thats it!!!!!!
very bad game at Brewster Park tonight, both teams very poor. simple as
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on February 13, 2010, 10:14:19 PM
Roscommon were truely awful tonight, Fermanagh were even worst and the ref even worst than that!!!
Roscommon must have kicked over 10 wides and had 75% of the ball but done nothing with it. Fermanagh could not get a ball in midfield. With Fermanagh only fielding about 4 of last years championship team it is clear to see we need some of last years men back quick!!! We have a small playing pool and don't have the strength in depth which was clear tonight.
We robbed Roscommon tonight, but a win is a win at the end of the day. And I will try to take some positives, this list will not be long!!
1) Blobby won everything that came to him (all about 4 balls) and looked a real outlet.
2) James Sherry looked decent in midfield
3) Thats it!!!!!!
i'm confused Roscommon were awful yet they had 75% of the ball? i think most of those wides were in the 1st half then shine found his scoring boots again & scored 6pts
i must have overated Fermanagh cause i felt they would one of the best teams in this Div? as sadly looks like div 4 for us for the first time :(
When I said they were awful, it was not there ability to get the ball that was there problem, it was there decision making and passing when they had it. A good team would have beat fermanagh by 7/8 points tonight with the amount of ball they had, but Roscommon just couldnt put fermanagh away and never really looked that likely too, even with the amount of ball they had. Your problem will come when you only get 50% of the ball. The full forward however was excellent at his frees!!
Both teams however were awful, so many unforced errors and misplaced passes, but I suppose it is still early feb and both teams did show good commintment.
With regards Div4, I feel we could both be heading there.
A decent team would have beat Fermanagh by more than 7 or 8 points. Roscommon much the better team. Your lad Shine missed some amount of frees in the first half.
I'll be happy if Fermanagh stay up - shocking stuff.
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on February 13, 2010, 10:37:14 PM
When I said they were awful, it was not there ability to get the ball that was there problem, it was there decision making and passing when they had it. A good team would have beat fermanagh by 7/8 points tonight with the amount of ball they had, but Roscommon just couldnt put fermanagh away and never really looked that likely too, even with the amount of ball they had. Your problem will come when you only get 50% of the ball. The full forward however was excellent at his frees!!
Both teams however were awful, so many unforced errors and misplaced passes, but I suppose it is still early feb and both teams did show good commintment.
With regards Div4, I feel we could both be heading there.
Fair enough but Roscommon & ability to win the ball :o is something i have not seen since the Seamus O Neill Days!
When Fermanagh get's their players back they should win there remaining games
As a Fermanagh man that is as poor as i have seen us play in 10 years.
The referee was one of the worst i have ever seen and gave us alot in the second half.
He should never be let near an intercounty game again.
Roscommon were robbed. Our defence looks completely clueless. Roscommon cut through us at will in the second half.
Roscommon have alot more to take from that game than us.
We were very lucky and this win is just papering over very obvious cracks.
Antrim could hammer us in 2 weeks unless things change
As noted above Fermanagh can't be happy with that win and how Ros let that one slip I'll never know. We are in big danger of going down to Div 4 now, unless we can pull three or four wins out of our next five games. On a positive note, Ros showed great spirit after the drubbing from Cavan last Sunday and after going 3 down in second half recovered well to take control of the game. Really should have been about five or six points up before Fermanagh got that injury time goal. However we badly need some scoring forwards and Senan Kilbride, Karol Mannion and David Keenan back to fitness. Very nice setup in Brewster Park under lights. The cups of tay served were very welcome too. Hate to criticise a ref but that lad must really have been dazed by the floodlights.
Cant see anyone going through this division unbeaten, wont be very much between top and bottom. Look at the two matches today, wouldn't be confident predicting either match
Quote from: hassletravel on February 14, 2010, 01:08:20 PM
Cant see anyone going through this division unbeaten, wont be very much between top and bottom. Look at the two matches today, wouldn't be confident predicting either match
Absolutely. Heading to Markievicz now - hopeful but not tremendously confident. We'll be in awful shit if we don't win today.
Quote from: hassletravel on February 14, 2010, 01:08:20 PM
Cant see anyone going through this division unbeaten, wont be very much between top and bottom. Look at the two matches today, wouldn't be confident predicting either match
Possibly Antrim.
Everyone goes on about them missing the Galls contingent, but for one reason or another, that contingent is not as big nor as crtical as people think: Antrim are well used to playing without most of them. This coming year is likely to be the first one where the majority of the Galls boys are available for their county.
Jees my heart was pumping in that 2nd half, Sligo have shown some bottle today, some heart and determination and workrate. Sligo 1-14 to Louths 2-10,
Sligo were cruising by 7 early in the 2nd half, and then got a marren sent off, and louth cameback, with a soft peno to put them a 1pt up but Sligo did fantastic and got 2 late scores with the 14 men sean davey and johnny scoring them.
Huge win.deserved win..stops the rot. Fair play to everyone. Delighted. Back in chasing pack now.
Why do Leitirim refs hate us, heard the c@@3 today did his best for Louth and radio said it was never a peno, the firs goal the louth took 10 steps at least and he they gave line balls against us clearly ours, and last but not least several of defenders got fouled and he played on.
Bradley is doing some job with Antrim at the minute. I doubted if they cold maintain the progress of last year but they seem to be a genuinely talented group of players and if they can maintain this form until the St Gals players come back they could gain 2 consecutive promotions. That would be some achievement considering where they have come from. That and the possibility of a St Galls AI title add up to heady days for Antrim football.
In the end did well to dig out a deserved win but it never should have been this close. As Sligonian said it was a complete joke decision for the penalty and overcarrying for their first goal. Now I will say that the referee did consistently allow overcarrying by both teams today, to a ridiculous extent. Also, the error that let the Louth man through and our 'keeper staying stuck to his line with a man approaching at an angle would worry me more about the first goal. Overall I don't think the ref was all that bad. Got the penalty wrong, one line ball over the stand side in the second half obviously wrong (linesman's fault) but gave us a couple of very soft frees after the sending off (it seems to be tradition!). Overall he was picky but unbiased which is as good as you can hope for these days.
We played some good stuff at times and when we let quick ball into the inside forwards we made hay. Problems remain but I think we've little room to manoeuvre personnel wise. Central diamond has issues. Backs not as tight as usual (I expect it will come). Not enough (defensive) work out of some of the forwards. Marren will be a big loss if he gets the 8 weeks I expect he'll get. He was playing really well. Good to see Cos clicking back into good form too.
Midfield is supposed to ba a disaster at present according to all my sources, Seanie whats your take? Mcgarrity and parsons coming up in the summer...
well this Division is turning into a real Dogfight Much like last year it's gonna be only 2 point's difference from Relegation or Promotion
Ref at Sligo vs Louth game was a complete joke imo. On technical fouls he was crap (pulled for some things and not for others). This applies to both teams. However an even bigger issue i have is his pulling for fouls that wernt even that physical. That Kelly lad sligo have up front is some class act. Lightening quick.
Quote from: mayo 4 eva on February 14, 2010, 08:53:54 PM
Ref at Sligo vs Louth game was a complete joke imo. On technical fouls he was crap (pulled for some things and not for others). This applies to both teams. However an even bigger issue i have is his pulling for fouls that wernt even that physical. That Kelly lad sligo have up front is some class act. Lightening quick.
Why weren't you in Omagh? Dating a Sligo girl? :P
;) ;) No Comment on that!!;D Family ties on Louth team had me in Sligo today. Reckon we're safe in the championship!
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on February 13, 2010, 10:37:14 PM
When I said they were awful, it was not there ability to get the ball that was there problem, it was there decision making and passing when they had it. A good team would have beat fermanagh by 7/8 points tonight with the amount of ball they had, but Roscommon just couldnt put fermanagh away and never really looked that likely too, even with the amount of ball they had. Your problem will come when you only get 50% of the ball. The full forward however was excellent at his frees!!
Both teams however were awful, so many unforced errors and misplaced passes, but I suppose it is still early feb and both teams did show good commintment.
With regards Div4, I feel we could both be heading there.
You could be right but it's still all to play for.
Our problem is we have no leaders in the 23 to 32 bracket, while the younger lads are still only going through the sorting out process to see who'll make it or not.
Yes we had a good spirited comeback last night but didnt make much use of possession ( as usual since .....2002) and only for Donie we'd be in some state.
ur only other scoring forward is out till May or June so it looks like a spell in OD4 before Ros can start to make any waves again.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 14, 2010, 06:12:20 PM
Midfield is supposed to ba a disaster at present according to all my sources, Seanie whats your take? Mcgarrity and parsons coming up in the summer...
Yeah, I can see why people are saying that and its a major worry. I'd always try to be positive so I'd ay "disaster" is a bit strong. There are many facets to midfield play and while we're struggling with a lot of them, some of them are getting better. Other aspects will improve as time goes on. We're fecked for alternatives personnel wise so we just have to hope that Kevin Walsh, with all his experience of this sector, can work something out. I'm hopeful that it will work out.
Today for example we didn't catch any clean kickout (Taylor caught one that another player had touched) but I think Louth only claimed 2 marks (we were probably helped by them losing Paddy Keenan before half time). We contested well in general and won a good share of breaks. Our own kickout can be a problem - dropping a kickout on J. Davey (who had gone short) and 3 Louth men just after conceding a goal a prime example. The two midfielders worked hard enough but use of ball not great at times, especially from Taylor which to be fair is unusual.
I'm probably being too positive but the way I look at it we've no other options so it HAS to work and in this situation maybe its better to hope than always point out the difficulty?
Interesting division.
Antrim - Fermanagh next up if I'm correct?
It's hard to know where it stands. If Fermanagh beat Antrim it's wide open again. We've not beat fermanagh in a while...
Wexford would have a lot of experience in their team for this level of football so I'd have to say I'd favour them for top.
Quote from: hardstation on February 14, 2010, 04:09:40 PM
Yeah just Colin Brady, Andy McClean, Sean Burke, Aodhan Gallagher, Terry O'Neill and Kevin Niblock from last year. Sean Kelly and Conor McGourty to play this year too.
Very few to return to be honest.
Five of those you name were about at the start of last years championship run - my point is thats a lot less to be missing than you'd expect when looking down a Galls teamsheet and seeing so many names recognisable from having played ic for Antrim at some stage.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2010, 10:44:52 PM
Interesting division.
Antrim - Fermanagh next up if I'm correct?
It's hard to know where it stands. If Fermanagh beat Antrim it's wide open again. We've not beat fermanagh in a while...
Wexford would have a lot of experience in their team for this level of football so I'd have to say I'd favour them for top.
I'd say yis'll not have long to wait unless theres a miraculous improvement in the Fermanagh side...
Kelly and McGourty would walk onto the team though Haranguerer so you could be missing 7 starters although with the way certain players shaping up I'm not sure Burke will get back in though by all accounts he's been on fire for st galls.
I wouldn't write off fermanagh yet - they have some good players. Are Owens and McGrath playing yet?
I thought Louth would have beat Sliigo so surprised by that result. I notice someone mentioned Paddy Keenan went off injured and also noticed it said before Louth would be in trouble without him. Did that have a big bearing in the same?
Basically almost any team could take points of any other in this division. The jury would be out on whether roscommon would be in this bracket but they were cllose against fermanagh. I'm not sure about cavan either - another game would tell where they are.
Without a doubt! Kelly in particular is a class act. I know all those HS mentioned will be coming back this year. My point was though that Antrims run last year was with 5, and later 6 of those players. I'd imagine most people count 8/9, and thus think their loss, while obviously significant, is even greater than it actually is. I make Antrim promotion favourites - I think they're good enough to get up even without the galls lads, and obviously when they do come back, the potential is there to be very good indeed.
Talk was McGrath back for Antrim game, Owens wont play in the league (at least) as far as I know. Its not just their loss though, there are a lot of other players missing, and very inexperienced replacements - Mark Little wont be about, Eamon Maguire isnt there, Shane McDermot has retired, a few others have left the panel/are only coming back. Fermanagh have been forced to blood too many players at the one time, and the inexperience (and lack of what it takes in some cases tbh) has really showed. Any less than about 5 changes to the team to face Antrim and I'll hold no hope at all.
Well well WELL....wasn't Sunday a most educational day for Louth GAA people
We learned we are not the team we think we are
The players are not what they think they are
We have a poor management.....stubborn, ignorant and clueless
As predicted we play a team of quality and purpose and we crumble....how we were so close at the end points to Sligo's failure to put us away and a dubious sending off...(I felt the ref was very whistle happy all afternoon)
Sligo won the game on a dominant half back line platform....a half forward line with purpose and as tricky a full forward line as you'll get....
Whereas alas Paddy Keenan went off and could be out for the rest of league....we are in big trouble I don't think we will win another game...and playing a strong DCU team next weekend will not be the tonic we need...Relegation is upon us.
First time at a game in Marciviecz park impressed by the layout and terracing but disappointed with the depth of the stand but all in all something to be proud of....
On a high point our U21's defeated Sligo's so maybe our futures better ;) and had a great weekend in Sligo, well Saturday night, the one way system meant we did a couple of extra laps of Sligo town....but the Garravogue do great pies and shenanigans do a lovely pint of Guinness!! Watching the boxing and the Kerry game in there as well as all the talent Sligo ladies have to offer...and I must say aint too bad at all!
Sorry Sligonian and Seanie I wasn't near a computer till last night when I got home and I feel it will be a long time before we will be playing you guys in the league again.
Glad you enjoyed Sligo, result aside. Markievicz Park has improved a good bit but I know what you mean about the stand. The problem with having a ground in a residential area. Rarely watch a match from the stand myself, nearly always behind the dugouts the far side.
Wasn't in Sligo Saturday night as it turns out but if you're over our way again give me a shout.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2010, 10:44:52 PM
Interesting division.
Antrim - Fermanagh next up if I'm correct?
It's hard to know where it stands. If Fermanagh beat Antrim it's wide open again. We've not beat fermanagh in a while...
Wexford would have a lot of experience in their team for this level of football so I'd have to say I'd favour them for top.
When was the last time we played Fermanagh though? The only meeting I can think of was the Championship one where Kevin McGourty was sent off.
Last one I remember before that was the All-Ireland B in 1999, which we won.
Quote from: hardstation on February 15, 2010, 10:24:43 PM
We should have beaten them that day in Enniskillen too. By fcuk it rained.
Kicked ourselves out of it. And yes, it rained. Hard.
Well to be honest I can remember...
- the championship the other year
- all ireland b
- clones years ago in a league play-off
- a league game in the nineties where it was effectively a game to see who was the worst in ulster. everyone thought fermanagh were until they spanked us
I think fermanagh and antrim have even avoided each other in the mckenna cup for years.
Fermanagh have 3 out of 4 but that's over nearly a 20 year period...
My jeans are still on the radiator from that day at Brewster--how many 13 yard frees did we miss that day? Although the minors won by a point
We got beat by a point in the championship around 91 in Irvinestown --1-9 to 1-8 i think
Also got bate in a Hastings Cup semi a few years ago by them.
Have missed each other and also Monaghan on the whole since.
After leaving brewster park saturday evening in the most depressing mood ive finally got the will to post.
First of all and out of the way the ref was pants plain and simple.
How a forward collects a pass in his chest and then immediately gets pushed to the ground and is awarded a free against him defies any law known to man.Blaming refs is not in my nature as it wasnt his fault ross lost but he definitily didnt help.
Anyway on the match itself thought ross were very good in terms of heart and determination and driving forward but they lacked that bit of composure to see out the game.
Fermanagh were woeful especially in the second half and i cant emphasise that enough.
They fell asleep after getting the first goal and their passing was as close to junior b as you will get.
Thats why i was so sick we lost.We were by far the better team in terms of overall play and anyone who was at the game and says ross were bad didnt watch the game.
Ross were good nothing spectacular but were good and a 110% improvement on the cavan game.
our problem is inexperience the two defenders who let the pass in for the killer goal were two young lads.An older head wouldnt have let him down the line in the first place to pass the ball across the square.No experience head to say your not getting in.
However the young lads of ogara shine (what a performance) domnican and ormsby was most gratifying and young connaughton when he came on as well.
On another point the welcome we got in brewster park was exceptional.
I think ulster people go out of their way to be accomadating to visiting fans and i had some very enjoyable chats with good characters.
Quote from: hardstation on February 15, 2010, 09:52:14 PM
Every feckin county is tipping themselves for relegation.
Its a trick they've learned from you HS.
Quote from: Gold on February 15, 2010, 11:10:01 PM
My jeans are still on the radiator from that day at Brewster--how many 13 yard frees did we miss that day? Although the minors won by a point
We got beat by a point in the championship around 91 in Irvinestown --1-9 to 1-8 i think
Also got bate in a Hastings Cup semi a few years ago by them.
Have missed each other and also Monaghan on the whole since.
Think that might have been 92?? In 91 we were hammered in Casement by Fermangh despite a first minute goal (from Chris Murphy I think)..think Fermanagh ran up about 3-12 that day...a couple of goals from Mark Gallagher of Devenish??
can someone explain the fixture structure for me?
first we have 2 games in two weeks
then a 3 week break ???
finish off with 5 games in 5 weeks
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2010, 03:21:37 PM
can someone explain the fixture structure for me?
first we have 2 games in two weeks
then a 3 week break ???
finish off with 5 games in 5 weeks
Well it's the Sigerson weekend this weekend so that's why there's none but after that I have no idea
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 14, 2010, 10:39:47 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 14, 2010, 06:12:20 PM
Midfield is supposed to ba a disaster at present according to all my sources, Seanie whats your take? Mcgarrity and parsons coming up in the summer...
Yeah, I can see why people are saying that and its a major worry. I'd always try to be positive so I'd ay "disaster" is a bit strong. There are many facets to midfield play and while we're struggling with a lot of them, some of them are getting better. Other aspects will improve as time goes on. We're fecked for alternatives personnel wise so we just have to hope that Kevin Walsh, with all his experience of this sector, can work something out. I'm hopeful that it will work out.
Today for example we didn't catch any clean kickout (Taylor caught one that another player had touched) but I think Louth only claimed 2 marks (we were probably helped by them losing Paddy Keenan before half time). We contested well in general and won a good share of breaks. Our own kickout can be a problem - dropping a kickout on J. Davey (who had gone short) and 3 Louth men just after conceding a goal a prime example. The two midfielders worked hard enough but use of ball not great at times, especially from Taylor which to be fair is unusual.
I'm probably being too positive but the way I look at it we've no other options so it HAS to work and in this situation maybe its better to hope than always point out the difficulty?
Thats quite different to what im hearing from others, but thanks for that. We are a long way from beating Mayo but alot of work before then... and hopefully like last yr mayo will be like galway.
Glad Mattock had a good time except the result ;), I like Markievicz park but I think without my architecture degree I could of done a better job of the stand. Ya I heard our u21s lost 3-17 to 1-4, but to Louth, as I say every yr with the players available its an unacceptable result but with the manager im not suprised. But mattock if your ever in Sligo again, come up to North Sligo, we have the scenery and is the best part of Ireland.
Don't get me wrong, I have serious concerns. Just think/hope it can be solved to an extent where it won't beat us.
It's the club semi-finals this weekend. The Sigerson Cup is next weekend.
And it's five games in SIX weeks by my count.
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 16, 2010, 03:29:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2010, 03:21:37 PM
can someone explain the fixture structure for me?
first we have 2 games in two weeks
then a 3 week break ???
finish off with 5 games in 5 weeks
Well it's the Sigerson weekend this weekend so that's why there's none but after that I have no idea
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 16, 2010, 05:03:57 PM
Thats quite different to what im hearing from others, but thanks for that. We are a long way from beating Mayo but alot of work before then... and hopefully like last yr mayo will be like galway.
Glad Mattock had a good time except the result ;), I like Markievicz park but I think without my architecture degree I could of done a better job of the stand. Ya I heard our u21s lost 3-17 to 1-4, but to Louth, as I say every yr with the players available its an unacceptable result but with the manager im not suprised. But mattock if your ever in Sligo again, come up to North Sligo, we have the scenery and is the best part of Ireland.
I sincerely wish you all luck with your team building plans- but not enough to beat Mayo. ;D
Has the league so far been a total downer or are there signs of better things to come?
Sligo had cruel hard luck last year, like so many others years of the past decade.
I think Mayo seldom carry their league form into the championships whereas the reverse seems to be true for Sligo.
BTW: I have no problem in wishing Sligo and Roscommon were playing better than they are at present. It would benefit football west of the Shannon if there were more genuine contenders than Mayo and Galway every year.
Lar - we're not in too bad shape players wise but we've seriously shot ourselves in the foot with our U-21 and to a lesser extent minors setups. All most people will see is the championship results for those teams and go - Sligo football is poor. Now I'm not writing those teams off just yet - I amazingly always manage to convince myself we are going to win almost every game I go to! Its just that other counties have been allowed a head start by our own ineptitude and we really cannot afford that.
On the senior - early days yet but I'd expect we'll give ye a much better game than 2 years ago at very least.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 18, 2010, 01:54:36 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 16, 2010, 05:03:57 PM
Thats quite different to what im hearing from others, but thanks for that. We are a long way from beating Mayo but alot of work before then... and hopefully like last yr mayo will be like galway.
Glad Mattock had a good time except the result ;), I like Markievicz park but I think without my architecture degree I could of done a better job of the stand. Ya I heard our u21s lost 3-17 to 1-4, but to Louth, as I say every yr with the players available its an unacceptable result but with the manager im not suprised. But mattock if your ever in Sligo again, come up to North Sligo, we have the scenery and is the best part of Ireland.
I sincerely wish you all luck with your team building plans- but not enough to beat Mayo. ;D
Has the league so far been a total downer or are there signs of better things to come?
Sligo had cruel hard luck last year, like so many others years of the past decade.
I think Mayo seldom carry their league form into the championships whereas the reverse seems to be true for Sligo.
BTW: I have no problem in wishing Sligo and Roscommon were playing better than they are at present. It would benefit football west of the Shannon if there were more genuine contenders than Mayo and Galway every year.
Cruel luck last yr, I dont think so, we were in control of or destiny against Kerry and we blew it. Against Galway again we could of won but way too loose in first 20mins which could of been because of the 11week break which wont happen this yr. We got take responsibility for our own downfalls.
Mayo and galway are no great shakes either....plenty of fluctuation of form in the next 4 months.
Seanies right about the u21s, if there is ever a game I will go to expecting us not to win its that game in carrick, I just feel we havent given ourselves a chance.
Would be very optimistic for the minors but maybe seanie knows more there?
Quote from: rossie mad on February 16, 2010, 10:17:13 AM
After leaving brewster park saturday evening in the most depressing mood ive finally got the will to post.
First of all and out of the way the ref was pants plain and simple.
How a forward collects a pass in his chest and then immediately gets pushed to the ground and is awarded a free against him defies any law known to man.Blaming refs is not in my nature as it wasnt his fault ross lost but he definitily didnt help.
Anyway on the match itself thought ross were very good in terms of heart and determination and driving forward but they lacked that bit of composure to see out the game.
Fermanagh were woeful especially in the second half and i cant emphasise that enough.
They fell asleep after getting the first goal and their passing was as close to junior b as you will get.
Thats why i was so sick we lost.We were by far the better team in terms of overall play and anyone who was at the game and says ross were bad didnt watch the game.
Ross were good nothing spectacular but were good and a 110% improvement on the cavan game.
our problem is inexperience the two defenders who let the pass in for the killer goal were two young lads.An older head wouldnt have let him down the line in the first place to pass the ball across the square.No experience head to say your not getting in.
However the young lads of ogara shine (what a performance) domnican and ormsby was most gratifying and young connaughton when he came on as well.
On another point the welcome we got in brewster park was exceptional.
I think ulster people go out of their way to be accomadating to visiting fans and i had some very enjoyable chats with good characters.
Jees never seen Sligo get a good reception in Ulster. :'(
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 18, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
Lar - we're not in too bad shape players wise but we've seriously shot ourselves in the foot with our U-21 and to a lesser extent minors setups. All most people will see is the championship results for those teams and go - Sligo football is poor. Now I'm not writing those teams off just yet - I amazingly always manage to convince myself we are going to win almost every game I go to! Its just that other counties have been allowed a head start by our own ineptitude and we really cannot afford that.
On the senior - early days yet but I'd expect we'll give ye a much better game than 2 years ago at very least.
I sincerely hope you do; it would benefit both teams immensely. I think the standard in all of Connacht is poor -and not only in Sligo. You have only to look at the number of national titles and All Star awards that came west of the Shannon in the last decade.
It may not be a case of standards actually dropping but I think other counties have surged ahead.
Possibly, when the setup at Bekan comes on stream, things will improve but that's a mighty big ask.
Time to bump the thread
Just to welcome the Sligo lads down to Wexford Park this weekend. I've a feeling who ever wins this will be line for promotion. Ye missing many for the match? We have a few long term injuries, but all in all not in too bad a state. We have a pretty good record in at home so hoping we can win by a point or two
Thanks boro, im back home so myself and Dad will be heading, we are in North Sligo so very early start. Game throws in at 13.00, wont be chancing the 96 astra though :D. Its my first county match this yr so cant wait. We will be a full strength besides our top scorer Marren and E O Hara, I presuming Mattie Forde is still out for ye, last time we Played was in Markievicz 2 yrs ago and ye won by a point, but Forde was awesome. Ye threatenend a big break through back then, so we would be very happy with a win but no guarntee. Will lyng be playing?
Looking forward to the antrim fermanagh match at the weekend as I've nto made a game yet.
On form and paper Antrim should win however fermanagh have some good footballers so wouldn't rule anything out.
I'd also expect the winner of sligo-wexford to get promoted. It's really a must win for sligo as they couldn't guarantee with two defeats they'd go up. Wexford could beat antrim and everyone else yet. Having played in the AISF the other year I'd expect their experience to win it for them.
big Weekend for the Rossies Away to Offaly if we lose 3 in a row division 4 beckons & just playing for Pride after
but if the Roscommon boys show the same Passion as the last day you'll never know what would happen on Sunday
Sure to be a great following as ever from the Rossies looking forward to game...
looks like the Aertel boys are having problems spelling Sligo :D
(http://www.rte.ie/aertel/images/211-02.gif)
The joys of cut and paste :D
sure they had cavan and donegal in the mckenna cup fixed for tralee,them boyos dont have a notion.
It's all "diwowin the cooooonthry" to them lads in RTE.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 02, 2010, 01:25:30 PM
Thanks boro, im back home so myself and Dad will be heading, we are in North Sligo so very early start. Game throws in at 13.00, wont be chancing the 96 astra though :D. Its my first county match this yr so cant wait. We will be a full strength besides our top scorer Marren and E O Hara, I presuming Mattie Forde is still out for ye, last time we Played was in Markievicz 2 yrs ago and ye won by a point, but Forde was awesome. Ye threatenend a big break through back then, so we would be very happy with a win but no guarntee. Will lyng be playing?
No Mattie as yet but hes back training with the club, so see we might see him on the bench before the league is out. Lyng will be playing alright, he was very good against offaly, so he will take a bit of markin. Really looking forward to this now, hoping for a dry day and our forwards to have their kickin boots on. Would be worried about our midfield though.
Quote from: hardstation on March 02, 2010, 10:13:02 PM
Really looking forward to Saturday night against Fermanagh. We're on a bit of a high at the minute. A win would be fantastic. I never dreamt we'd be on 6 points after the first 3 games. That would leave us with a decent chance of making the top 2. We're going well but you never know how we would deal with a set back.
Fermanagh haven't exactly been flying thus far. (fair enough but the game v Rocomoon should be the kick up the arse those guys need to raise their games) home advantage may make the difference for you
jumping the gun a little hardstation... should be a good game at the weekend! ;)
Position Team Played Won Lost Drawn For Against Points
1 Aontroim 2 2 0 0 34 25 4
2 An Cabhán 2 1 1 0 37 32 2
3 Uibh Fhaili 2 1 1 0 32 30 2
4 An Lú 2 1 1 0 29 28 2
5 Sligeach 2 1 1 0 31 31 2
6 Loch Gar 2 1 1 0 28 29 2
7 Fear Man 2 1 1 0 25 27 2
8 Ros Comáin 2 0 2 0 24 38 0
Big game for Offaly on Sunday. A win at home versus Roscommon would be attainable, and is needed to just reinforce the win over Fermanagh. It also will help in the promotion/relegation stakes because this division is so tight that I'd expect probably 5-6 points to separate second from second last.
Roscommon have a decent record here, they relegated us a couple of years ago, and beat us well last year too.
Roscommon look in bad shape, but they'll surely improve. We're not pulling up any trees ourselves, and first of all we need to make sure we don't go down. We could really do with winning this...
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
Big game for Offaly on Sunday. A win at home versus Roscommon would be attainable, and is needed to just reinforce the win over Fermanagh. It also will help in the promotion/relegation stakes because this division is so tight that I'd expect probably 5-6 points to separate second from second last.
Roscommon have a decent record here, they relegated us a couple of years ago, and beat us well last year too.
Roscommon look in bad shape, but they'll surely improve. We're not pulling up any trees ourselves, and first of all we need to make sure we don't go down. We could really do with winning this...
Since the last time we played it seems roles reversed.
I wouldnt play on last years game too much as i think you will agree offaly football was probably at its lowest ever point at the week of that game.
i was at that game and it was obvious very few offaly players wanted to be there but ye seem to have sorted that out so things are different this time around.
I will be travelling in hope like enniskillen but with a bit more optimism because of enniskillen.
We have a good record against yourselves in tullamore but that will count for nothing as both sides are very different from the last game in tullamore.
I would like to think we could get our first win and hopefully start the climb to obtaining DIV 3 status for next season.
however this offaly team seem to have turned tullamore into a bit of fortress and on this reason i think we will be narrowly beaten.
Still havent heard any team but i would think we should be around the same as the fermanagh game.
On the other games in the div i am going for sligo to beat wexford by two points,Louth to beat cavan and my banker of the weekend antrim to beat fermanagh.
I am going to lump a sizable amount on the saffrons as i just cant see them being beat for the simple reason i have seen fermanagh up close and i just cant see them beating anyone else in this div.
Quote from: rossie mad on March 03, 2010, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
Since the last time we played it seems roles reversed.
I wouldnt play on last years game too much as i think you will agree offaly football was probably at its lowest ever point at the week of that game.
i was at that game and it was obvious very few offaly players wanted to be there but ye seem to have sorted that out so things are different this time around.
I will be travelling in hope like enniskillen but with a bit more optimism because of enniskillen.
We have a good record against yourselves in tullamore but that will count for nothing as both sides are very different from the last game in tullamore.
I would like to think we could get our first win and hopefully start the climb to obtaining DIV 3 status for next season.
however this offaly team seem to have turned tullamore into a bit of fortress and on this reason i think we will be narrowly beaten.
Still havent heard any team but i would think we should be around the same as the fermanagh game.
On the other games in the div i am going for sligo to beat wexford by two points, Louth to beat cavan and my banker of the weekend antrim to beat fermanagh.
I am going to lump a sizable amount on the saffrons as i just cant see them being beat for the simple reason i have seen fermanagh up close and i just cant see them beating anyone else in this div.
Although we have cavan at home and we defeated them in Drogheda last year in a tight game I can't see it happening this year!!
Nicholas walsh is out but i think our 2 first choice midfielders will not make it
We're a average side with poor management....
Wheres the Antrim game this wkend?
Brewster I think but is it Sat or Sun?
Paddy Power Weekend matches odds
Wexford v Sligo 10/11 Draw 15/2 11/10
Offaly v Roscommon 4/7 Draw 15/2 7/4
Louth v Cavan 5/6 Draw 15/2 6/5
Antrim v Fermanagh 8/13 Draw 15/2 6/4
We want Antrim and naturally Ros to win and definite results in the other 2 games to tighten the whole Division up.
Two points very badly needed and i'm half hopeful....but no more.
By the way I see Gary Cox has retired from Inter County suffering ongoing injury and a rumour of arthritis taking hold,which I hope isnt true.
Farewell Gary and despite me not always being complimentary ::) of your efforts we could have done with your experience for another year.
Seeing as it is casement, have a look and see what the weather is doing there.
http://www.met.ie/latest/reports.asp
How much are they charging in for these Div 3 games? Might jump on the Antrim bandwagon this weekend.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 03, 2010, 07:35:16 PM
We want Antrim and naturally Ros to win and definite results in the other 2 games to tighten the whole Division up.
Two points very badly needed and i'm half hopeful....but no more.
By the way I see Gary Cox has retired from Inter County suffering ongoing injury and a rumour of arthritis taking hold,which I hope isnt true.
Farewell Gary and despite me not always being complimentary ::) of your efforts we could have done with your experience for another year.
yep has been discussed over on the Stolensheep forum with plenty of good wishes for Gary
Cox never let the Rossies down, he'll be missed i wish him well on his Retirement
Yeah, Gary Cox was a good one. Best of luck to him.
Minder, I think its €12/£10 for league games.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 03, 2010, 09:40:51 PM
Yeah, Gary Cox was a good one. Best of luck to him.
Minder, I think its €12/£10 for league games.
Cheers, was €12/£10 into the Antrim v Carlow Div 2 hurling so the prices must be uniform across the divisions.
Heard that the smokers will be happy as long as there are more people in Casement than can be contained in the stand.
Quote from: hardstation on March 03, 2010, 10:24:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2010, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 03, 2010, 09:40:51 PM
Yeah, Gary Cox was a good one. Best of luck to him.
Minder, I think its €12/£10 for league games.
Cheers, was €12/£10 into the Antrim v Carlow Div 2 hurling so the prices must be uniform across the divisions.
I would say you'd get better value for money on Saturday night.
If the two teams just did their warm up on Saturday night and then went home i would say it would be better value.
Quote from: drici on March 03, 2010, 10:27:20 PM
Heard that the smokers will be happy as long as there are more people in Casement than can be contained in the stand.
That really gets on my nuts the way you are forced to sit in the stand, you cannot even stand below the stand.
I'm not sure I get what you're saying unless it's that Sean Kelly will be a straight swap for O'Hagan??
Good enough line up. Will be interested to see how O'Boyle does. Haven't seen much of corner back McCann either.
Probably a weak enough bench - especially in defense. Still - Kelly , McLean and Brady to come back so not too bad.
Loughrey has played a lot more at half forwards than defense for St Brigids from anything I've seen.
I think it will be a good move. We're weak in the HF line and Loughrey is a player with a prefect engine for HF. Also Sean Kelly is the best footballer in Antrim and has to be accomodated.
Brady is maybe lacking a wee bit in pace for HF. We were poor in that area last year. Loughrey, McCann(Tomas) and AN other (Close is excellent but think he will be a bit short of c'ship team) . Personally I hope Herron works out at MF and him and Gallagher can play there then Michael McCann can go CHF. Tomas is good but he isn't a CHF.
Haven't seen much of O'Hagan - good backup if Scullion goes into headless chicken mode anyway.
Antrim seem head and shoulders above anyone at this level.....
Wwouldn't say that. Poor fermanagh team tonight and woeful ref.
Antrim looked good in parts but in truth a good few of the fermanagh boys would be a bit short of this level. Would be different come summer.
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 06, 2010, 09:43:47 PM
Wwouldn't say that. Poor fermanagh team tonight and woeful ref.
Antrim looked good in parts but in truth a good few of the fermanagh boys would be a bit short of this level. Would be different come summer.
The referee was woeful. The sending off did change the game but in truth we never looked like winning. Paddy Cunningham was very impressive this evening. If only we had a player of his ability
Only three of the Fermanagh team started in the championship last year. We really are down to the bare bones. I really hope we get Marty McGrath and Eamon Maguire back soon because we're in depth relegation trouble. Heading down to division 4 is unthinkable
Fermanagh were not good tonight--they have a completely different team than previously and that cant be easy--they're simply missing too many main players in Owens, McCluskey, McGrath, Little, Maguire etc and are bound to struggle.
In saying that, Antrim were very good in spells and could have won by more if they had have not fallen asleep a few times. The glory days for the Saffrons are a world away from losing in Ardfinnan and to Waterford on the last day in Div 4 2 years ago. It's magic!
Quote from: Gold on March 06, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
Fermanagh were not good tonight--they have a completely different team than previously and that cant be easy--they're simply missing too many main players in Owens, McCluskey, McGrath, Little, Maguire etc and are bound to struggle.
In saying that, Antrim were very good in spells and could have won by more if they had have not fallen asleep a few times. The glory days for the Saffrons are a world away from losing in Ardfinnan and to Waterford on the last day in Div 4 2 years ago. It's magic!
My only concern would be if Paddy Cunnigham has an off day then Antrim might struggle, but Baker has done a superb job with them. We always knew there were good footballers in Antrim, it was just a question of getting the required committment and everyone moving in the same direction. Antrim remind me of Fermanagh before about 10 years ago when we were at the start of some very successful years.
Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2010, 07:41:12 PM
How much are they charging in for these Div 3 games? Might jump on the Antrim bandwagon this weekend.
A change of mind, did the price put you off?
Quote from: FermPundit on March 06, 2010, 10:25:57 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 06, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
Fermanagh were not good tonight--they have a completely different team than previously and that cant be easy--they're simply missing too many main players in Owens, McCluskey, McGrath, Little, Maguire etc and are bound to struggle.
In saying that, Antrim were very good in spells and could have won by more if they had have not fallen asleep a few times. The glory days for the Saffrons are a world away from losing in Ardfinnan and to Waterford on the last day in Div 4 2 years ago. It's magic!
My only concern would be if Paddy Cunnigham has an off day then Antrim might struggle, but Baker has done a superb job with them. We always knew there were good footballers in Antrim, it was just a question of getting the required committment and everyone moving in the same direction. Antrim remind me of Fermanagh before about 10 years ago when we were at the start of some very successful years.
I dont think Antrim are over reliant on him at all, and will be even less so when CJ is back. Magill was also very good tonight, Egon should have been on earlier, better match size wise, and Loughrey also caught the eye.
Fermanagh are in deep trouble. Tommy McElroy scored two nice points, and Kevin Cosgrove did better than expected, but they're well off the pace. It was an improvement on the Roscomon game though, that gives you an idea how bad that was, and also how hard you have to look for a 'positive'
Quote from: ross4life on March 06, 2010, 10:45:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 03, 2010, 07:41:12 PM
How much are they charging in for these Div 3 games? Might jump on the Antrim bandwagon this weekend.
A change of mind, did the price put you off?
Nah boss, was down at my wifes cousins today and wasn't back up to Belfast in time.
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I dont think Antrim are over reliant on him at all, and will be even less so when CJ is back.
will he be back?!
Quote from: FermPundit on March 06, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
The referee was woeful. The sending off did change the game but in truth we never looked like winning. Paddy Cunningham was very impressive this evening. If only we had a player of his ability
Only three of the Fermanagh team started in the championship last year. We really are down to the bare bones. I really hope we get Marty McGrath and Eamon Maguire back soon because we're in depth relegation trouble. Heading down to division 4 is unthinkable
You look to be down to th bare bones alright but McGrath, Maguire, Little, Owens etc are all good players so will help a lot.
What was impressive about Cunningham tonight was that he scored some great points with his right foot. I still thought Magill was man of the match. Loughrey was good also. Quiet enough night from Michael McCann but I thought Close was good tonight. Tony Scullion is brilliant one minute and does the stupidest thing in the world the next - frustrating player at times!
I wold still think there's a few of the boys on the antrim team who won't be there c'ship time. Also I'd like to see a lot more from Crozier - I thought he was poor enough.
Wexford 2-06 Sligo 0-06
20 minutes gone - 2nd Half.
Wexford down to 14.
Wexford 3-06 Sligo 0-06
Wexford 3-07 Sligo 1-06
Good result for Wexford today, but Sligo were awful poor. Some terrible shooting by both sides, which wasn't helped by a swirling breeze. I thought Wexford always looked in control, despite being a man down for the last 15 minutes, and in truth could have won by more. Hopefully we will push on for promotion now, still have two games left to play at home so we should be in with a good chance.
Offaly 2-14 Roscommon 2-13 Crazy game, one which the Rossies could have got hammered or even won :o
Shine's missed frees & Niall McNamee scoring everything he got was the difference between the sides!
3 defeats in a Row for us now can't see any way back now :(
Just home from drogheda and not proud to say...that i witnessed the worst game ever played
we're brutal and Cavan are a shade worse.....
Only for Brian White's expertise at dead ball situations he was the difference...
OMG i feel sick after it :o
Quote from: mattockranger on March 07, 2010, 05:01:51 PM
Just home from drogheda and not proud to say...that i witnessed the worst game ever played
we're brutal and Cavan are a shade worse.....
Only for Brian White's expertise at dead ball situations he was the difference...
OMG i feel sick after it :o
dont know about you lads MR
But we are headed for Division 4,
Carr done something i didnt think possible,hes actually gone beyond rock bottom and makes Keoghan look like Micko.
Id love it if we were managerless come next weekend.
We wont be so lucky though.
Feck's sake lads, ye can't all get relegated!
After this weekend Results
1 Antrim pts 6
2 Louth pts 4
3 Offaly pts 4
4 Wexford pts 4
5 Sligo pts 2
6 Cavan pts 2
7 Fermanagh pts 2
8 Roscommon pts 0
Antrim will be on 8pts next weekend & are sure for promotion as for the rest.......... there all as bad as each other!
Fermanagh were brutal and Antrim reasonably good last night. The ref was a clown and hopefully we will never see him at a fermanagh game again!!! As has being said before we are just missing too many and have too small of a pick to have the cover, but hopefully when a few return we can pick up enough wins to stay up.
Antrim despite always looking like winning, should have destroyed a 14 man fermanagh but didnt really. Fermanagh got alot of the breaking ball at midfield so if I was an Antrim man this would worry me. Fermanaghs midfield is not good and has being destroyed in every game so far, so if Antrim want to improve this is one area they should work at!!! But overall I really hope Antrim continue to improve and do well again the year, because they do have the players.
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2010, 05:46:22 PM
Who came down from Div 2 last year? Cavan and Wexford?
Fermanagh and Wexford were the teams relegated from Division 2 last year and Down and Tipperary were promoted from Div. 3.
Just back from that farce, we were embarrasing, if theres one thing that fcking annoys me more than any other its lack of effort not giving 100%, well if some of our players gave 40% today id be shocked and tell him to give up football.
The money spent on sending this team the day before was the biggest waste of money ever. To think that all the commitment these players give to just turn up and basically wilt at any physical assertion is a mental block of which I cant explain. Why bother commiting to a county set up if your going to go through the motions on game day.
In the first half alone in my head i was thinking well our lads dont want to win this game. In the 2nd half it was rubber stamped. I wasnt disappointed we lost, i was seething with anger, wexford were awful poor aswell and only for that we would of been annilated early on.
Honestly if any of players want to know about effort watch summerhill defensive front from the forwards to defence last saturday. I cant wait to hear walshs opinion on the game. Will he take responsibilty for the inept stupidity on the line aswell or just blame the players. To me both are to blame.
With that display today its hard to know what to think. Are we that shite, and why in Sligo are the fans not guarnteed 100% effort everyday, every so often there is freakish bad performance mainly due to lack of effort and atitude most things always guarnteed in other counties. Pisses me off.
well fair play to you sligonian for making the long trip down to wexford Park, i was surprised by that result sounds like if the players gave as much commitment as that Fan's it would have be different?
The Rossies still have to play both Wexford & Sligo yet & they will be expecting 2pts over our lot ::)
If our lads put in the effort they did today the Rossies have nothing to worry about. I was never as angry today as a long time. Jees even my Dad said the player and managment should apologise for the lack of effort today to those that travelled wasting our time. I just couldnt believe the half heartedness.
The balance has kind of shifted. From the outside looking in there are a few teams in division 3 who have been in freefall since just after the leagues went to 4 straight divisions. They've not had time to drop all divisions yet and so division 3 is where they're currently at.
Sligo seemed to dip a bit a few years ago but are better than they showed so division 4 was kind of a false reflection of where they were at and antrim would be playing a lot better under baker.
Basically it seems to be a league for teams who have gone from being half decent to shite and teams who are kind of half on the up at the minute so the teams on the up maybe look better than they are!
I'm naming no names...
Hardstation, if Down and Tipp can get promotion from div3 then was it any different last yr. Offaly, Cavan, Louth, Roscommon, poor showing in last yrs championship and wouldnt put the fear into anyone. Until today i had next 2 home games as bankers but not now.
Div3 is poor. I honestly dont rate alot of teams in it. If we put a bit effort into we'd have got promotion but we wont now.
Our only saving grace is we should improve dramatically in the summer like last yr. Only london or KK would of lost to us today, any other div4 team would of beaten us.
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2010, 11:20:52 PM
Our run in:
Roscommon (away) - Haven't won a match but unlucky not to beat Fermanagh and hit 2-13 against Offaly. I'll show my cards and say that we should get a win but we'll need to play well. No mugs.
Offaly (away) - This is going to be tough. We could beat them. They could beat us. It might be a draw. No idea how this will go. A massive game. I think I'm heading down so hopefully the hardstation roar will spur them on.
Louth (home) - Another big game, depending on how the other two matches go. It'll be tough but I'd hope to beat them at Casement.
Wexford (away) - I would hope that we're not depending on a win here to get us up. Another hard game.
We have tight matches coming up. I'd hope that 2 wins out of 4 will be enough. I'd also hope that we can get 2 wins out of 4.
I'd hope.
IMO u'll beat Roscommon, Offaly & Louth but lose to wexford when Promotion will be already sealed!
Very important win for Offaly on Sunday, although by all accounts it was skin of the teeth stuff at the end. 4 points from 6 with a defeat in Wexford Park is about as good as could be expected at this stage, so I'd be hopeful another win or two would keep us up, given the travails so far of Fermanagh and Roscommon especially.
On the other hand, another couple of wins at home and you could be edging towards the promotion end of things, especially if we can get over Antrim in Tullamore.
It was a high scoring game in Tullamore but the overall standard was poor enough. Some of the basic handling and passing skills on show was terrible.Even though we could of snatched a draw at the end, that was more to do with poor Offaly defending that anything else. We only lost by a point in the end that should not mask the poor performance by our lads.
I didn't see any real positives from a Ros point of view other than Shine's freetaking that is, in general play he didn't offer much and seems very slow to decide what to do when in possession of the ball. Our defense was poor enough too, any high balls caused a bit of panic. Cregg, who I have great time for, is not a centre back, surely we have a more suited player in the couty for this position? Our midfielders dont inspire confidence either and we still haven't player who can anticipate and win breaking ball around the middle. All and all I left Tullamore very dissapointed yesterday and can't see much hope for the year ahead.
Neither do I regretfully.
At least 7 of our players yesterday are not Inter Co footballers.
That added to nonsensical defending, headless chicken stuff for 25 minutes in the second half, awful attempts at passing, indecision at all times when on the ball, and at frees and always looking to go sideways instead of firing the ball forward.
More years of misery and hard knocks to look forward to I'm afraid before we even begin to think of challenging anyone for anything at a serious or even middlin level.
Rossfan...
i think majority of teams from this division could copy and paste your last comment and apply to their own team
with the exception of Antrim
I wouldn't get too carried away about antrim just yet mattock. There are a couple of boys on that team who won't be there come championship. St Galls still being in the club though is a good thing as everyone has to be on their toes toretain their places.
I would say quite a number of teams are in "transition". I wouldn't put Sligo or Wexford in that bracket. Offaly I'm not sure about. Ros, Fermanagh and Cavan definitely are and I don't know much about Louth football so can't possibly comment on them. A lot of tehse teams seem to have players in one age bracket who pretty much need replaced in one foul swoop.
Antrim are playing with confidence but they would be very weak defensively just yet. Pretty much half the defense are missing. It's just that any teams they've played haven't had the ability to expose that. Whether any of the remaining teams do remains to be seen. They also would have maybe 4 decent forwards but not 6 so still a good bit to build on.
The way I would see it is that Offaly and Wexford are teams who could put us back in our box. Comments on Louth football seem to suggest they are poor enough. (Louth comments). Niall McNamee from Offaly could kill us ion a good day but hopefully we've galls boys back by then.
Quote from: mattockranger on March 08, 2010, 06:26:00 PM
Rossfan...
i think majority of teams from this division could copy and paste your last comment and apply to their own team
with the exception of Antrim
At least the rest of ye managed to win a game anyways.
:-\
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 08, 2010, 06:33:37 PM
I wouldn't get too carried away about antrim just yet mattock. There are a couple of boys on that team who won't be there come championship. St Galls still being in the club though is a good thing as everyone has to be on their toes toretain their places.
I would say quite a number of teams are in "transition". I wouldn't put Sligo or Wexford in that bracket. Offaly I'm not sure about. Ros, Fermanagh and Cavan definitely are and I don't know much about Louth football so can't possibly comment on them. A lot of tehse teams seem to have players in one age bracket who pretty much need replaced in one foul swoop.
Antrim are playing with confidence but they would be very weak defensively just yet. Pretty much half the defense are missing. It's just that any teams they've played haven't had the ability to expose that. Whether any of the remaining teams do remains to be seen. They also would have maybe 4 decent forwards but not 6 so still a good bit to build on.
The way I would see it is that Offaly and Wexford are teams who could put us back in our box. Comments on Louth football seem to suggest they are poor enough. (Louth comments). Niall McNamee from Offaly could kill us ion a good day but hopefully we've galls boys back by then.
yous handled a Sligo Forward line that I would rate highly in this division....i think everyone one of their forwards scored against us!
A sidenote:
John Coughlan the dublin underage star made his Offaly debut....supposed to have been impressive great addition to Offaly
Any reports?/
Don't worry Rossfan you still have to play us!!
Quote from: mattockranger on March 08, 2010, 06:45:46 PM
A sidenote:
John Coughlan the dublin underage star made his Offaly debut....supposed to have been impressive great addition to Offaly
Any reports?/
A good debut. He started well, fielded balls under pressure, including a couple of marks and looked useful around the field.
In the second half, Offaly fell very deep when playing into the wind. The match turned really scrappy and error-ridden and Coughlan wasn't as prominent.
Midfield is a traditional problem area for Offaly. The only decent fielder, Niall Smith is off the panel, as is Alan McNamee who was middling 4 or 5 years ago. Ciaran McManus is no longer a viable midfield option.
Coughlan and U21 midfielder Brian Connor look like potentially improving things here.
A good debut. He started well, fielded balls under pressure, including a couple of marks and looked useful around the field.
In the second half, Offaly fell very deep when playing into the wind. The match turned really scrappy and error-ridden and Coughlan wasn't as prominent.
Midfield is a traditional problem area for Offaly. The only decent fielder, Niall Smith is off the panel, as is Alan McNamee who was middling 4 or 5 years ago. Ciaran McManus is no longer a viable midfield option.
Coughlan and U21 midfielder Brian Connor look like potentially improving things here.
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I would have thought alan Mcnamee was a consistent midfielder on his day....
Coughlan is a great influx of talent anyway...has his brother joined the panel aswell? how is he faring??
We have Fermanagh next and from all reports they aren't going too well along with players missing either through injury, suspension or unavailability....We could nabb another win ...and suprisingly one away from home....and put us into contention for promotion!!
In the words of Christy Dignam....this is a crazy world!!!
Roscommon worth a few quid this weekend?
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 12, 2010, 09:08:26 AM
Roscommon worth a few quid this weekend?
What price SS2??
What Now?
It is hard to see Roscommon avoiding the drop to Division Four after this defeat.
The last four games must be won if there is to be any hope of surviving in Division Three.
Next Sunday table toppers Antrim come to Hyde Park and it will take a mighty effort from the Rossies to take the points in this one. Antrim have a very fast team and their forwards put moves together at lightning speed.
That does not bode well for the Roscommon backs who aren't exactly gifted with speed. I have a feeling that Roscommon could produce a winning display on Sunday and cause an upset.
The last two games have been lost by a single point, so the luck might change on Sunday with Roscommon on the right side of the final score.
This was a game that Roscommon could have lost heavily and like mentioned at the top of this report could even have won. However, the bottom line is that too many scores were given away and with the in form Antrim coming to Hyde Park next Sunday.
Roscommon will have to be at their best if they are to get their first points of the 2010 national league campaign and avoid the dreaded drop to division four of the league. This game on Sunday now has the element of knock out about it
7/4 two days ago the last time i looked.
Going out to 9/4 is a possibility by the time the match starts.
wont be heading up which is a pity as i think we might just sneak this.
Roscommon are always dangerous when least is expected of them and at home they will be a different proposition than the cavan game.
We held offaly to three point the whole of the 2nd half and if we can get the midfiel motoring we have a chance.
Antrim though are flying high at the moment and will be a very difficult propostion.
Roscommon by 1.
No disrespect, but I think you're mad. Home advantage is very important, but Antrim top the table for good reason. One of those one point defeats was versus Fermanagh, who went on to play a lot better against Antrim, but still got beat by double scores. Everyone is dangerous when the least is expected of them, but I think the bookies have it right on this one.
As for ourselves v louth, like rossie, I'm clinging onto home advantage, and lack of expectations. I fully understand, and couldnt disagree with him, if he were to similarly diss our chances this weekend as I have theirs, for at best I dont know what way it'll go, at worst, I've a fair idea...
Roscommon are 13/8 with Paddy Power
Quote from: haranguerer on March 12, 2010, 11:13:27 AM
No disrespect, but I think you're mad. Home advantage is very important, but Antrim top the table for good reason. One of those one point defeats was versus Fermanagh, who went on to play a lot better against Antrim, but still got beat by double scores. Everyone is dangerous when the least is expected of them, but I think the bookies have it right on this one.
As for ourselves v louth, like rossie, I'm clinging onto home advantage, and lack of expectations. I fully understand, and couldnt disagree with him, if he were to similarly diss our chances this weekend as I have theirs, for at best I dont know what way it'll go, at worst, I've a fair idea...
No disrespect taken.Its called the rossie optimism which has become more prevalent in the last ten years with shots in the arm every so often just to keep the optimism dangling and the beleif in a ticofaidh ar la moment just around the corner.
My tiocfaidh ar la moment would be to beat mayo by ten points in the hyde in a connacht final however for now im sticking to the hope that we beat antrim by a point on sunday.
Quote from: Minder on March 12, 2010, 11:38:42 AM
Roscommon are 13/8 with Paddy Power
that price must have come down when i put a score double on them and duinguib ;)
Know all about optimism for no good reason rossie! :D
Actually starting to feel a bit of it for this weekend - few players back, red card in with a chance of being rescinded,home advantage - we're not easily beat there, no matter what way we're playing, as rossie can testify :P, no expectatations.
Dunno about saying bet on us, but will say be cautious if you're betting on Louth...
Good man Rossie Mad, I'd say you could be waiting a while yet for a 10 point victory over Mayo but sure we will come good yet :)
I don't know much about this Antrim team to be honest but they are obviously a team on the rise. I have seen nothing this year to have any optimism going into this one but if there is any fascinating thing about the Rossies is that you never quiet know what your going to get from them. A good end to the league would be invaluable for confidence within the team so hopefully it will start on Sunday.
Will Antrim bring many supporters to the hyde?
How are Cavan set for the Wexford game lads? We have a few injuries up front and the bench is fairly threadbare at the minute so I wouldn't be overly confident. Still we've had two good results on the trot now so hopefully the lads can keep up th momentum and get a result up north. A win would put us in good sted for promotion, while losing would put us right back in the dogfight.
Lookin at the other games from a Wexford perspective i'd be hoping for Sigo, Fermanagh and the Rossies to win.
Quote from: boro on March 12, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
How are Cavan set for the Wexford game lads? We have a few injuries up front and the bench is fairly threadbare at the minute so I wouldn't be overly confident. Still we've had two good results on the trot now so hopefully the lads can keep up th momentum and get a result up north. A win would put us in good sted for promotion, while losing would put us right back in the dogfight.
Lookin at the other games from a Wexford perspective i'd be hoping for Sigo, Fermanagh and the Rossies to win.
In short, not great!
Quote from: haranguerer on March 12, 2010, 01:33:20 PM
Know all about optimism for no good reason rossie! :D
Actually starting to feel a bit of it for this weekend - few players back, red card in with a chance of being rescinded
Red card not rescinded. Balls.
Antrim are a perfect example to the other Teams in this Division!
this time last year Antrim were a Division 4 team that hadn't won a championship game for 6 years but they beat the odds & got themselves to a ulster final & were unlucky v kerry
& now they find themselves on their way to Division 2 & one of the best teams in the Ulster ...... fair play to them
Thery're not just a flash in the pan though, this group of players have been developing for a while. They have numerous players who've been outstanding at Sigerson level for years and the St Gall's boys have proven themselves against the best many times, especially in the 7s.
As much as it's down to attitude, belief, discipline and organisation, they've a group of seriously talented players there.
Quote from: ross4life on March 12, 2010, 05:37:49 PM
& now they find themselves on their way to Division 2 & one of the best teams in the Ulster ...... fair play to them
Indeed but the odd loss will be good for them for tis always said you learn more when you lose!! A loss on Sunday would do them the world of good in the long term! :)
Quote from: Tatler Jack on March 12, 2010, 06:06:53 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 12, 2010, 05:37:49 PM
& now they find themselves on their way to Division 2 & one of the best teams in the Ulster ...... fair play to them
Indeed but the odd loss will be good for them for tis always said you learn more when you lose!! A loss on Sunday would do them the world of good in the long term! :)
:D I hope not! Won't be an easy game so hopefully our lads aren't complacent. Would have preferred a Saturday evening game but hopefully we'll do the business Sunday. If we do, then 1 more win should be enough. Lot of its and buts though!
Cant see many Saffrons travelling to the Hyde, we havent travelled in numbers in my memory to any game bar the championship games last year (bar the Donegal opener when not many went)
I'd defo go myself only for club commitments--theres club games on from Div 3 to 6 at same time and many clubs if not all in Divs 1 and 2 will be playing challenge games prior to start of league
I'd love another win but being an Antrim fan i would never say we are going to win a game.
The Rossies love their football and have serious history with Clann na Gael, all ireland wins at senior and minor etc and will be hurting with how they are playin and may very well stop are bandwagon rolling
Same boat with the club commitments. Not sure I'd have went anyway, not the greatest road. But at the same time those are the good trips!
Away to Roscommon, Have to be there when St Galls bring home the bacon on Wednesday, and then Tullamore next weekend.
A good test for the genuine supporter!
As single definitely, a double likely, a treble touch and go.
Anyone on here up for the three? A round trip of approx 1200 miles!!
Hoping to get up to the Louth game tommorrow under the guise of bringing the good lady up to Asda for a big shop ;D Never been to Brewster Park, can anyone please direct me from Asda??
Quote from: ExiledGael on March 12, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
They're not just a flash in the pan though, this group of players have been developing for a while. They have numerous players who've been outstanding at Sigerson level for years and the St Gall's boys have proven themselves against the best many times, especially in the 7s.As much as it's down to attitude, belief, discipline and organisation, they've a group of seriously talented players there.
What has 7's got to do with competing at the top its a completely different game. 7's football is dominated by mediocre Down teams who have won fcuk all for years. Antrim are heading in the right direction but have a long way to go.
Quote from: Louth Exile on March 13, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Hoping to get up to the Louth game tommorrow under the guise of bringing the good lady up to Asda for a big shop ;D Never been to Brewster Park, can anyone please direct me from Asda??
There is probably a better way than this but it will work. Come out of Asda, turn left, go past bus station, when you come to the bridge go right (left is for sligo), go right immediately across the 2nd bridge. Take the next left go down there a wee bit and take another left (at this stage you should be seeing parked cars etc). Now there is a right turn up there and the pitch is on your right. The boys from Fermanagh would tell you better but just in case they don't that should do the trick for you.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2010, 10:12:04 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on March 13, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Hoping to get up to the Louth game tommorrow under the guise of bringing the good lady up to Asda for a big shop ;D Never been to Brewster Park, can anyone please direct me from Asda??
There is probably a better way than this but it will work. Come out of Asda, turn left, go past bus station, when you come to the bridge go right (left is for sligo), go right immediately across the 2nd bridge. Take the next left go down there a wee bit and take another left (at this stage you should be seeing parked cars etc). Now there is a right turn up there and the pitch is on your right. The boys from Fermanagh would tell you better but just in case they don't that should do the trick for you.
Take the left out of asda, take the next right after McDonalds, drive up that road 100 yards and Brewster is in to the left--will be signposted and cars will be there.
Myles thats some directions you gave, the whole way round the town and back to get to the pitch!
Quote from: Gold on March 13, 2010, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2010, 10:12:04 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on March 13, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Hoping to get up to the Louth game tommorrow under the guise of bringing the good lady up to Asda for a big shop ;D Never been to Brewster Park, can anyone please direct me from Asda??
There is probably a better way than this but it will work. Come out of Asda, turn left, go past bus station, when you come to the bridge go right (left is for sligo), go right immediately across the 2nd bridge. Take the next left go down there a wee bit and take another left (at this stage you should be seeing parked cars etc). Now there is a right turn up there and the pitch is on your right. The boys from Fermanagh would tell you better but just in case they don't that should do the trick for you.
Take the left out of asda, take the next right after McDonalds, drive up that road 100 yards and Brewster is in to the left--will be signposted and cars will be there.
Myles thats some directions you gave, the whole way round the town and back to get to the pitch!
I knew it was round the house but wasn't sure of the other route but sure didn't want the lad ending up in Lisnaskea.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 14, 2010, 09:53:39 AM
Quote from: Gold on March 13, 2010, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2010, 10:12:04 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on March 13, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Hoping to get up to the Louth game tommorrow under the guise of bringing the good lady up to Asda for a big shop ;D Never been to Brewster Park, can anyone please direct me from Asda??
There is probably a better way than this but it will work. Come out of Asda, turn left, go past bus station, when you come to the bridge go right (left is for sligo), go right immediately across the 2nd bridge. Take the next left go down there a wee bit and take another left (at this stage you should be seeing parked cars etc). Now there is a right turn up there and the pitch is on your right. The boys from Fermanagh would tell you better but just in case they don't that should do the trick for you.
Take the left out of asda, take the next right after McDonalds, drive up that road 100 yards and Brewster is in to the left--will be signposted and cars will be there.
Myles thats some directions you gave, the whole way round the town and back to get to the pitch!
I knew it was round the house but wasn't sure of the other route but sure didn't want the lad ending up in Lisnaskea.
Cheers lads, now I just need to convince the mother or my children that mothers day would be a great day to go shopping! Its alright Myles. we might go through Lisnaskeagh on the way back :D
Quote from: Gold on March 13, 2010, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2010, 10:12:04 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on March 13, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Hoping to get up to the Louth game tommorrow under the guise of bringing the good lady up to Asda for a big shop ;D Never been to Brewster Park, can anyone please direct me from Asda??
There is probably a better way than this but it will work. Come out of Asda, turn left, go past bus station, when you come to the bridge go right (left is for sligo), go right immediately across the 2nd bridge. Take the next left go down there a wee bit and take another left (at this stage you should be seeing parked cars etc). Now there is a right turn up there and the pitch is on your right. The boys from Fermanagh would tell you better but just in case they don't that should do the trick for you.
Take the left out of asda, take the next right after McDonalds, drive up that road 100 yards and Brewster is in to the left--will be signposted and cars will be there.
Myles thats some directions you gave, the whole way round the town and back to get to the pitch!
I think he'll probably be coming out of asda at the park entrance beside the tech?
In which case, turn right, then left at the top of that road, then right again, from there park up anywhere you can after 500 yards and follow the traffic (actually, just remembered how we're going, take the first left on that road, you should be able to park at the pitch...) We outnumber the huns in our part of the world anyway, so just ask anyone, they'll be gaa ppl, unless they're rare lookin....and/or wearing a rangers (or tyrone) top
Roscommon 0-14 Antrim 0-16
the Fat lady is well singing on Roscommon now!
the Awful Start 5pts to 0 lost it for us, playing catch up the whole match, the extra man & wind advance in the 2nd half didn't make much Difference!
one plus point at least where not getting hammered so we have improved in the last 3 games
Big result for cavan opens things up. Big result for sligo too. With wexford getting beat then if antrim were to beat wexford they'd be right back in there.
Very tight division. Should be antrim's last game without the st galls game. They'll be needed against Offaly and Wexford.
An antrim man sent off ross4life? Who was it?
Quote from: ross4life on March 14, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
Roscommon 0-14 Antrim 0-16
the Fat lady is well singing on Roscommon now!
the Awful Start 5pts to 0 lost it for us, playing catch up the whole match, the extra man & wind advance in the 2nd half didn't make much Difference!
one plus point at least where not getting hammered so we have improved in the last 3 games
Feck, from a purely selfish point of view this cannot be good for Connacht football. Really is a shame that Roscommon will probably be Division 4 bound, when the lowest they should ever be is Division 2.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on March 14, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 14, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
Roscommon 0-14 Antrim 0-16
the Fat lady is well singing on Roscommon now!
the Awful Start 5pts to 0 lost it for us, playing catch up the whole match, the extra man & wind advance in the 2nd half didn't make much Difference!
one plus point at least where not getting hammered so we have improved in the last 3 games
Feck, from a purely selfish point of view this cannot be good for Connacht football. Really is a shame that Roscommon will probably be Division 4 bound, when the lowest they should ever be is Division 2.
Sligo were a Division 4 team when they won the Connacht championship 2007 But Roscommon can't win a game in this poor Division which doesn't have good reading for the championship
Quote from: ross4life on March 14, 2010, 04:48:11 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on March 14, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 14, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
Roscommon 0-14 Antrim 0-16
the Fat lady is well singing on Roscommon now!
the Awful Start 5pts to 0 lost it for us, playing catch up the whole match, the extra man & wind advance in the 2nd half didn't make much Difference!
one plus point at least where not getting hammered so we have improved in the last 3 games
Feck, from a purely selfish point of view this cannot be good for Connacht football. Really is a shame that Roscommon will probably be Division 4 bound, when the lowest they should ever be is Division 2.
Sligo were a Division 4 team when they won the Connacht championship 2007 But Roscommon can't win a game in this poor Division which doesn't have good reading for the championship
No insult to Sligo but that has to be the worse Connacht Championship since the early 1990's.
At least the last time Roscommon won in 2001, they had to beat the National League Champions - Mayo and the eventual All-Ireland Champions - Galway. That years League Semi-Finalists where Mayo, Galway, Roscommon & Sligo.
looking at the Table it's relegation for us! :'( at least we'll win games next year v london & kilkenny
Div 3 P W D L Dif Pts
Antrim 4 4 0 0 20 8
Louth 4 3 0 1 14 6
Cavan 4 2 0 2 6 4
Offaly 4 2 0 2 2 4
Wexford 4 2 0 2 1 4
Sligo 4 2 0 2 -6 4
Fermanagh 4 1 0 3 -20 2
Roscommon 4 0 0 4 -17 0
Looks very much as though the current bottom two will end up being the bottom two at the end. Fermanagh are missing too many players and Roscommon just don't have the stuff to be competitive in Division 3 at this point in time.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 14, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Looks very much as though the current bottom two will end up being the bottom two at the end. Fermanagh are missing too many players and Roscommon just don't have the stuff to be competitive in Division 3 at this point in time.
Roscommon been competitive is not the problem, last three game proves that! but lack of confidence, leaders & experience is why where heading to Div 4
We need others to lose 3 games & us to win 3 that's not going to happen
Quote from: ross4life on March 14, 2010, 05:19:18 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 14, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Looks very much as though the current bottom two will end up being the bottom two at the end. Fermanagh are missing too many players and Roscommon just don't have the stuff to be competitive in Division 3 at this point in time.
Roscommon been competitive is not the problem, last three game proves that! but lack of confidence, leaders & experience is why where heading to Div 4
...and is why you're not competitive in Division 3. I mean over the course of a season rather than individual games - you have to win a few to be classed as competitive within the division.
Sligo 0-12 Offaly 0-11
Poor game, poor ref, right result.
Honestly Kevin Walsh is not the manager the galway lads think he is. His naivity and blindness will handicap us big time this yr. Several players not good enough for intercounty on 15 and subs are poor and I blame Walsh for that. Theres alot more in Sligo but alot of work still to be done. We should of been a few points more ahead at the end but poor wides let us down.
Home against Cavan next. I would say Sligo not good enough to get promotion but probably just about stay in the division.
Your right the Connacht championship is poor this yr with none of us going to make much an impact outside the province. Mayo and Galway being in div1 makes no difference, both will be poor enough come championship.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 14, 2010, 05:28:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 14, 2010, 05:19:18 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 14, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Looks very much as though the current bottom two will end up being the bottom two at the end. Fermanagh are missing too many players and Roscommon just don't have the stuff to be competitive in Division 3 at this point in time.
Roscommon been competitive is not the problem, last three game proves that! but lack of confidence, leaders & experience is why where heading to Div 4
...and is why you're not competitive in Division 3. I mean over the course of a season rather than individual games - you have to win a few to be classed as competitive within the division.
You don't necessasrily have to win games to be competitiive
i think Ross4life means their competitive in this division but they lack that little more to pull out a win
just ask fermanagh Cavan and Antrim today whether they were competitive in the games they played
Just like us last season......we just could not win the tight games but we were competitive, we got through it and stayed up
Thats why i think Roscommon will do it
yup spot on Mattockranger but one look at the Table & you can see the Rossies are already doomed!
Have Louth played Wexford yet?
Antrim look favourites at the minute but could be the 3 hardest games to come in Louth, Offaly and Wexford. Louth not being talked about much but could still get promoted.
Very tight division - anyone's guess who'll take the promotion spots at the minute.
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 14, 2010, 08:36:08 PM
Have Louth played Wexford yet?
Antrim look favourites at the minute but could be the 3 hardest games to come in Louth, Offaly and Wexford. Louth not being talked about much but could still get promoted.
Very tight division - anyone's guess who'll take the promotion spots at the minute.
Beat them in round 1.
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 14, 2010, 08:36:08 PM
Have Louth played Wexford yet?
Antrim look favourites at the minute but could be the 3 hardest games to come in Louth, Offaly and Wexford. Louth not being talked about much but could still get promoted.
Very tight division - anyone's guess who'll take the promotion spots at the minute.
Louth beat Wexford in Drogheda in the first round and nearly blew it!!
Brewster park is a very nice ground and easy to get to (cheers lads) but they don't have a team to grace it at the moment. In a game that lacked intensity and saw Louth lose two top players to injury in the first half it wasn't until Fermanagh went down to 14 in the second half that we really pushed on. In fairness there was some good displays and we were full value for the win. It was a real division 3 match (standard of football) and Fermanagh seem to be struggling badly at the moment. IF we can beat a struggling Rossies side in Drogheda next week we have a real chance of picking up that second place in the division (Antrim should be nailed on for top spot)
A certain internet tipster got his bet on Fermanagh badly wrong, good thing it was only a 1 pt recommendation :D
Delighted with Cavan last night,Tommy Carr has to get credit,as hes taken a battering on the Cavan thread by all, in the last few weeks.
It would be interesting to k now what Cavan team will emerge in Sligo,Last nights/Rosscommon game one or the one against Antrim/Louth.
it would save me petrol money and the 10 Euros in to know!!!
Quote from: hardstation on March 14, 2010, 09:46:44 PM
http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/league-tables/football-league-tables/roinn-3/ (http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/league-tables/football-league-tables/roinn-3/)
:D
I think the admin on gaa.ie is a Rossie ;D
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 14, 2010, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 14, 2010, 09:46:44 PM
http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/league-tables/football-league-tables/roinn-3/ (http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/league-tables/football-league-tables/roinn-3/)
:D
I think the admin on gaa.ie is a Rossie ;D
Youd think the lad would of put them top if he was to do it at all :D
if it wasn't for that last second Fermanagh goal it would have been them & not us bottom now
but hey looks like we'll have them in the hyde next year
Quote from: Louth Exile on March 14, 2010, 09:20:55 PM
A certain internet tipster got his bet on Fermanagh badly wrong, good thing it was only a 1 pt recommendation :D
I'll grant you that one, but in fairness if you were following this weekend you'd have done okay. Had a good cut off Tipp myself so managed to still emerge in the black despite backing Fermanagh and the Galway hurlers.
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 15, 2010, 05:51:52 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on March 14, 2010, 09:20:55 PM
A certain internet tipster got his bet on Fermanagh badly wrong, good thing it was only a 1 pt recommendation :D
I'll grant you that one, but in fairness if you were following this weekend you'd have done okay. Had a good cut off Tipp myself so managed to still emerge in the black despite backing Fermanagh and the Galway hurlers.
I agreed 100% with the Tipp recommendation, as I said, at least it was only 1 point recommendation. I said it last year and this year is no different, the standard in general is so poor in Div 3 and there are so many teams evenly matched, it can be a minefield for trying to pick winners. Mind you, my choice of the weekend in a last man standing competition was Derry ::) So what do I know :(
Brutally average Wexford team named for the Fermanagh game :(. Due to suspensions and injuries the middle third of the field looks particularly weak. Despite being normally very good at home, I wouldn't be at all confident for Sunday now.
Quote from: boro on March 19, 2010, 11:15:40 AM
Brutally average Wexford team named for the Fermanagh game :(. Due to suspensions and injuries the middle third of the field looks particularly weak. Despite being normally very good at home, I wouldn't be at all confident for Sunday now.
you'll still beat us, we are muck at the minute, looking at Div 4 football once again... :-[
Quote from: boro on March 19, 2010, 11:15:40 AM
Brutally average Wexford team named for the Fermanagh game :(. Due to suspensions and injuries the middle third of the field looks particularly weak. Despite being normally very good at home, I wouldn't be at all confident for Sunday now.
Dont be worrying yourself - yis'll be grand...
I don't know/ hear the louth team for the weekend...
but we're short 5 due to injuries but i'm sure a number of Rossies were playin U21 during the week....
Both teams desperate for points for oppisite reasons...I think rossies desperation could be enough
i have a feeling the Rossies will win on Sunday in a low scoring game! but it will be too late for relegation :(
just playing for Pride now & it's important we get some type of form for the Championship
Offaly Antrim will be a big one this weekend. Antrim, without their best forward so far, will be weakened somewhat. Could be the one they slip...
Quote from: ross4life on March 19, 2010, 05:42:45 PM
i have a feeling the Rossies will win on Sunday in a low scoring game! but it will be too late for relegation :(
just playing for Pride now & it's important we get some type of form for the Championship
Well I'm putting Ros down in my weekend multiple anyway so I hope you're right. They've been steadily improving, giving Antrim a game last weekend, and I think Louth have actually been rickety enough in of late according to all reports, despite the results.
I'm probably mental but sure what's money to a Cavan man, right?
Woke up this morning with renewed hope that fermanagh would win this weekend and stay up, am I mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: hardstation on March 13, 2010, 11:49:27 PM
Will be in Tullamore.
(http://www.rte.ie/aertel/images/211-03.gif)
hardstation doesn't read Aertel
maybe a future neutral venue for the league 2 final!!
But Drogheda aint in Offaly !!!
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on March 20, 2010, 02:05:36 PM
Woke up this morning with renewed hope that fermanagh would win this weekend and stay up, am I mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am the same!! Oh its tough being a Fermanagh fan. This is by far our best starting 15 of the year so fingers crossed a performance will follow
I havent seen the starting 15, fancy sticking it up?They cant have got a lot of match time even so.
5/2 though, i'll throw them in the accumulator sure, f**k it!
Theres the team that was announced, if it actually starts is a completely different story
Fermanagh: Ronan Gallagher, N Bogue, S Lyons, M O'Brien, B Mulrone, R McCluskey, T McElroy, J Sherry, M McGrath, R Jones, M Keenan, C Flaherty, R Keenan, Rory Gallagher, E Maguire.
big win today for us - we're back in the hunt.
Still a lot of work to do but the team showed great heart in the last 10 minutes. Sweeney had a great game, Colm Mcgee was also impressive and Johny Davey as usual had a very strong outing.
We've got a chance at promotion but will have to stop giving the ball away if we are to stay in the hunt.
Cavan were ahead for most of the second half but seemed to run out of steam, also two of their forwards got injured by Philip Greene coming out for the ball.
Hard luck to Cavan.
Division 3 table from GAA.ie
Pos Team P W L D F A Points
1 Aontroim 5 4 1 0 78 59 8
2 An Lú 5 3 2 0 71 60 6
3 Loch Garman 5 3 2 0 68 64 6
4 Uibh Fhaili 5 3 2 0 75 72 6
5 Sligeach 5 3 2 0 69 72 6
6 An Cabhán 5 2 3 0 77 74 4
7 Fear Manach 5 1 4 0 52 73 2
8 Ros Comáin 5 1 4 0 70 86 2
That table looks wrong.
Well Done Sligo today, very promising performance, im delighted today. The level of performance Cavan put up against us was far superior to wexford and offaly so for our lads to out match them credit to us. Some great stuff played today and its in us, we just got to keep it going.
Remaining NFL – Division Three Fixtures
Saturday 27 March (7.30)
Antrim v Louth (Casement Park) – Referee: Con Reynolds
Cavan v Offaly (Kingspan Breffni Park) – Referee: Paul Kneel
Sunday 28 March (2.30)
Fermanagh v Sligo (Brewster Park) – Referee: Ciaran Branagan
Roscommon v Wexford (Dr Hyde Park) – Referee: Michael Duffy)
Sunday 11 April (2.30)
Wexford v Antrim (Wexford Park) – Referee: TBA
Offaly v Louth (Tullamore) – Referee: TBA
Cavan v Fermanagh (Kingspan Breffni Park) – Referee: TBA
Sligo v Roscommon (Markieviez Park) – Referee: TBA
Quote from: Carbery on March 21, 2010, 05:21:49 PM
Remaining NFL – Division Three Fixtures
Saturday 27 March (7.30)
Antrim v Louth (Casement Park) – Referee: Con Reynolds
Cavan v Offaly (Kingspan Breffni Park) – Referee: Paul Kneel
Sunday 28 March (2.30)
Fermanagh v Sligo (Brewster Park) – Referee: Ciaran Branagan
Roscommon v Wexford (Dr Hyde Park) – Referee: Michael Duffy)
Sunday 11 April (2.30)
Wexford v Antrim (Wexford Park) – Referee: TBA
Offaly v Louth (Tullamore) – Referee: TBA
Cavan v Fermanagh (Kingspan Breffni Park) – Referee: TBA
Sligo v Roscommon (Markieviez Park) – Referee: TBA
We need to beat Sligo to have any chance. Apparently our defence played quite well today but the same old problems up front. We just can't score. I can't remember the last time we put up a big score. We have a shocking record in Breffni Park so we're really up against it now.
How many points would keep a team up? Would 6 points even be enough?
Disappointing day today
We are poor side....in all areas....
forward movement-team selection-tactics-defensively-breaking ball-support play
enjoyed looking at Roscommon they done all of the above well.....
but missed a lot in score-able positions due to lack of confidence...they could and should have won by more!
Quote from: FermPundit on March 21, 2010, 05:26:17 PM
Quote from: Carbery on March 21, 2010, 05:21:49 PM
Remaining NFL – Division Three Fixtures
Saturday 27 March (7.30)
Antrim v Louth (Casement Park) – Referee: Con Reynolds
Cavan v Offaly (Kingspan Breffni Park) – Referee: Paul Kneel
Sunday 28 March (2.30)
Fermanagh v Sligo (Brewster Park) – Referee: Ciaran Branagan
Roscommon v Wexford (Dr Hyde Park) – Referee: Michael Duffy)
Sunday 11 April (2.30)
Wexford v Antrim (Wexford Park) – Referee: TBA
Offaly v Louth (Tullamore) – Referee: TBA
Cavan v Fermanagh (Kingspan Breffni Park) – Referee: TBA
Sligo v Roscommon (Markieviez Park) – Referee: TBA
We need to beat Sligo to have any chance. Apparently our defence played quite well today but the same old problems up front. We just can't score. I can't remember the last time we put up a big score. We have a shocking record in Breffni Park so we're really up against it now.
How many points would keep a team up? Would 6 points even be enough?
6 could..............
we will definitely not win away to Antrim with all the galls men back....and Offaly in Fortress Tullamore
so could be us, Fermanagh, Cavan, Roscommon and maybe wexford all on 6
Score difference??
look's like the fermanagh game will get us relegated :( & to think all that was needed was for the ball to be kicked out of play ::)
but i'm hoping & expecting us to finish the league with 3 wins
Just great to get some points on the table at last, badly needed for confidence. Still reckon we will be playing division 4 next year but say ye will be ok mattockranger, my own opinion is Cavan may be in trouble as well.
Two massive games ahead of us now.
Antrim 5 4 0 1 19 8
Louth 5 3 0 2 11 6
Wexford 5 3 0 2 4 6
Offaly 5 3 0 2 3 6
Sligo 5 3 0 2 -3 6
Cavan 5 2 0 3 3 4
Roscommon 5 1 0 4 -16 2
fermanagh 5 1 0 4 -19 2
I reckon Wexford will finish on 8 points and will be depending on other results to go our way to get promoted. Not confident of beating the Rossies next week but think we will get a result against Antrim at home. Tis going to be an exciting few weeks anyway :)
We managed a win at last but by God did we do our best to maintain our losing streak with awful wide after awful wide.
Thankfully Claffey earned his free lunch anyway just like he did last March at the same venue with vital saves.
Unfortunately it's hard to see us stay up even if we win our last 2 games as our score difference is awful thanks to that second half shocker against Tommy Truck's lot.
Not much support for the Louth team as even ye're little standeen wasnt full and there were nearly as many of us in it as Louth folk.
Big result for Offaly that one. Tullamore has been good to us in the last few years. If we could pick up a win in Cavan next week, we'd have a good chance of promotion, which would be a huge thing for this team.
I'm delighted it was a tight one that we won with almost the last kick of the game, too often we've been blowing the tight ones, and Wexford and Sligo away were another two, but Fermanagh, Roscommon and Antrim were all close games, so it's great to start winning our fair shar of them.
Hopefully this is the start of a decent year for Offaly, with a proper approach to the Qualifiers if and when we land in them, but if we continue winning these games, notwithstanding the fact that it is division 3, we'll quietly fancy ourselves against Meath.
God I feel for Cavan, having to go to places like Sligo and Roscommon must kill a blue blood county like that. Down with the domestiques of Gaelic football and only Offaly to keep them company. Hopefully both will escape the hell of division three football and get up amid the class they really belong to. Next year Ros and Sligo will be travelling to far away places like London and Kilkenny.
Quote from: southsidejohnny on March 23, 2010, 08:43:46 AM
God I feel for Cavan, having to go to places like Sligo and Roscommon must kill a blue blood county like that. Down with the domestiques of Gaelic football and only Offaly to keep them company. Hopefully both will escape the hell of division three football and get up amid the class they really belong to. Next year Ros and Sligo will be travelling to far away places like London and Kilkenny.
lads lets not bite the bait....
Quote from: southsidejohnny on March 23, 2010, 08:43:46 AM
God I feel for Cavan, having to go to places like Sligo and Roscommon must kill a blue blood county like that. Down with the domestiques of Gaelic football and only Offaly to keep them company. Hopefully both will escape the hell of division three football and get up amid the class they really belong to. Next year Ros and Sligo will be travelling to far away places like London and Kilkenny.
Whats wrong with that?
Get a bit of a break in london long weekend with the lads and a win followed by bringing the missus for a another long weekend in the marble city after the previous weeks debauchery and another win.
Four points on the table and two great weekends i couldnt think of better to be honest.
Its called supporting your county something id say is lost on you ;D
Quote from: rossie mad on March 23, 2010, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: southsidejohnny on March 23, 2010, 08:43:46 AM
God I feel for Cavan, having to go to places like Sligo and Roscommon must kill a blue blood county like that. Down with the domestiques of Gaelic football and only Offaly to keep them company. Hopefully both will escape the hell of division three football and get up amid the class they really belong to. Next year Ros and Sligo will be travelling to far away places like London and Kilkenny.
Whats wrong with that?
Get a bit of a break in london long weekend with the lads and a win followed by bringing the missus for a another long weekend in the marble city after the previous weeks debauchery and another win.
Four points on the table and two great weekends i couldnt think of better to be honest.
Its called supporting your county something id say is lost on you ;D
With Cavan's luck we definitely get the pair of them at home!!!
Quote from: southsidejohnny on March 23, 2010, 08:43:46 AM
God I feel for Cavan, having to go to places like Sligo and Roscommon must kill a blue blood county like that. Down with the domestiques of Gaelic football and only Offaly to keep them company. Hopefully both will escape the hell of division three football and get up amid the class they really belong to. Next year Ros and Sligo will be travelling to far away places like London and Kilkenny.
Load of nonsense, if you look at our results in the late couple of years, division 3 is about right for us.... would love to say we were division 1 standard but....
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 23, 2010, 11:56:55 AM
Quote from: southsidejohnny on March 23, 2010, 08:43:46 AM
God I feel for Cavan, having to go to places like Sligo and Roscommon must kill a blue blood county like that. Down with the domestiques of Gaelic football and only Offaly to keep them company. Hopefully both will escape the hell of division three football and get up amid the class they really belong to. Next year Ros and Sligo will be travelling to far away places like London and Kilkenny.
Load of nonsense, if you look at our results in the late couple of years, division 3 is about right for us.... would love to say we were division 1 standard but....
I think johnny boy is more concerned at having a pop at Ros/Sligo more than anything else Celt_Man. I hope he makes it to the U-21 Connaught final to see some quality under age players from both sides on display ;) :D
Southsidejohnny's surname must be Prenty!
Gall's forwards Niblock and McGourty have been approached about togging out on Saturday evening.
Defenders and forwards given at least another week off.
Allegedly.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 23, 2010, 01:53:39 PM
Gall's forwards Niblock and McGourty have been approached about togging out on Saturday evening.
Defenders and forwards given at least another week off.
Allegedly.
Does this tell us where Baker sees weaknesses in the squad??
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 23, 2010, 02:53:28 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 23, 2010, 01:53:39 PM
Gall's forwards Niblock and McGourty have been approached about togging out on Saturday evening.
Defenders and forwards given at least another week off.
Allegedly.
Does this tell us where Baker sees weaknesses in the squad??
I was thinking it's more because of Magill's injury.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 23, 2010, 01:53:39 PM
Gall's forwards Niblock and McGourty have been approached about togging out on Saturday evening.
Defenders and forwards given at least another week off.
Allegedly.
ah Baker sould give them another week off.....player burn-out and all that ;D
Big game for Offaly this Saturday. Away form has been poor again this year (albeit with narrow defeats), but losses to Sligo and Wexford away have been compensated for by wins at home to Fermanagh, Roscommon and Antrim. If Offaly could get a win up in Cavan, then promotion becomes a distinct possibility, with Louth coming to Tullamore.
Defeat away again, and I'd say that'll be all she wrote.
We need to win our two last games and hope Cavan and Fermanagh lose theirs to stay up.
Cavan and Fermanagh play each other in the last game
We need Fermanagh to win that one then ;)
Fermanagh to turn the tide this weekend. This team have had a lot of set backs but have proven in the past that they have good players and are hard working
QuoteWe need to win our two last games and hope Cavan and Fermanagh lose theirs to stay up.
Disagree with you Rossfan. Think we need Fermanagh to beat Sligo this weekend in order to give us a chance.
Barring a hammering for some team we havent a hope of catching majority of teams on points difference.
The only way possible for us to stay up in my book would be the following.
Beat wexford by 5points (minimum requirement) to bring our scoring diff to -11.
Sligo to lose to fermanagh by 1 leaving them on -4.
In that case a 4pt win in Sligo in the last game would more than likely keep Ross up.
Its a huge/impossible scenario.. :(
We have to get it right in the middle"- boss
AS THE Wexford footballers get back into the promotion mix in the National League, manager Jason Ryan reckons his side's patchy performances in Division 3 can be remedied by some basic improvements around the general midfield area.
Even in the victories over Offaly, Sligo and Fermanagh they have struggled in that zone, although Jason is not placing the finger of blame on just those in shirts 8 and 9 but the half-backs and half-forwards too.
When it is ventured that Wexford's failure to put Fermanagh to the sword last Sunday was largely down to the tendency of Wexford players to launch aimless deliveries inside, the manger initially agreed before stating: "Our efforts were blighted above all by the fact that we were not winning kick-outs, and that is not all down to the midfielders – it is about the wingbacks and wing-forwards picking up the breaks too.
But not one of our players managed to do that today. In the modern game individual genius is disappearing and instead it is becoming about all round efficiency.
So we have to get it right in the middle by being quicker in terms of picking up the breaks and being more efficient with the ball once we get into the opposition's '45."
He steered away from cribbing too much about the quality of Wexford's overall play against Fermanagh as instead Jason opted to praise the effort of an injury and suspensionhit squad.
"Never mind the win," he cried before quickly enthusing: "...that was the most significant performance since 2008 if you look at the size of the squad we had, which is something that we have been playing down for the last few weeks.
But, while we had Daithí Waters, PJ Banville and David Fogarty in the squad, we were never going to be able to risk them because they are only just coming back from injury.
On top of that we are without Ben Brosnan (serving a month's suspension) and Brian Malone (missed the Fermanagh game having been dismissed for two yellow-cards twice within a 48-week period). So really we only had 20 players to work with today.
"I am just delighted we got through the game okay, and what made the result most pleasing is that while we did not play well the lads still fought so hard."
Even still, Jason accepts a repeat performance will hardly suffice next Sunday away to Roscommon. "No, but getting the win gives our lads a new confidence that hopefully they can feed off.
We already had plenty of motivation for the Roscommon match after what they did to us in last year's championship (beating Wexford in a replayed Qualifier), but with our win over Fermanagh and the way the other results fell at the weekend we know that if we can win in Roscommon and at home to Antrim that we could still get promotion," he points out.
Fitzpatrick will not rush back injured stars for top of the table Antrim clash
"It's do or bust next Saturday. If we want to get promotion to Division Two we have to beat Antrim. Before this, we were hoping to get four points out of the last six. Now we are looking to get four out of four."
PeteR Fitzpatrick
Louth Manager
By Gary McLaughlin
Louth boss Peter Fitzpatrick was extremely disappointed following Louth's shock loss to Roscommon.
The defeat seriously dented the promotion push to Division Two, but rather than blame the players, Fitzpatrick thought it was just "one of those days."
Now, with everything to play for in Casement Park on Saturday, Fitzpatrick said he will not rush back his injured stars, such as Paddy Keenan and Ray Finnegan.
Speaking after the game, a dejected Fitzpatrick said: "We just did not play well for the whole 70 minutes which is very disappointing.
"I think the difference was and in fairness to Roscommon, they were more hungry than us today, they were first to the ball. I just thought it was a bad day at the office.
"We got two opportunities there at the very end, Shane Lennon went straight for goal and missed a goal and Adrian Reid had an opportunity for a goal aswell, but it was one of those days when nothing went well for us. I thought we could have sneaked a draw in the end but it wasn't our day and that's it."
After last week's result against Fermanagh, Fitzpatrick's men were expected to continue their rich vein of form against Roscommon, but it just did not happen on the day, something the Louth manager put down to Roscommon's perilous position.
"I knew this was going to be a hard, physical game of football. Roscommon have been unlucky in their last three games, losing the games by a total of four points, and I knew today if Roscommon were beat today, they would be relegated and in typical Roscommon style, they came and they fought and they bet us in our back garden.
"It is a set-back. We are very disappointed. I'm disappointed for the lads as they put fantastic effort into it. I cannot have any complaints at all. I know we might not have played well but they the one thing that showed is that they never stopped trying and that's the most important thing at the moment."
Throughout the week, Fitzpatrick and his backroom staff will look at the defensive frailties which were exposed again, but one thing he will not do is rush back injured players for the top of the table clash with Antrim.
It's do or bust next Saturday. If we want to get promotion to Division Two we have to beat Antrim. Before this, we were hoping to get four points out of the last six. Now we are looking to get four out of four.
I do not think it is looking good for a lot of the lads coming back. If they are not right, I am not going to play them. The most important game at the moment is the Antrim game and I cannot take a chance.
All I asked when I took this job was that the lads gave me 100% and today, we didn't play well, but we kept the heads held up high, we kept chasing, we kept hassling. Roscommon are not a bad team, they are a physical team so all I can hope is that we can bounce back against Antrim and if we bounce back, we are back in the race and if not, that is it.
Quote from: drici on March 26, 2010, 11:21:25 AM
Fitzpatrick will not rush back injured stars for top of the table Antrim clash
“It's do or bust next Saturday. If we want to get promotion to Division Two we have to beat Antrim. Before this, we were hoping to get four points out of the last six. Now we are looking to get four out of four.”
PeteR Fitzpatrick
Louth Manager
By Gary McLaughlin
Louth boss Peter Fitzpatrick was extremely disappointed following Louth's shock loss to Roscommon.
The defeat seriously dented the promotion push to Division Two, but rather than blame the players, Fitzpatrick thought it was just "one of those days."
Now, with everything to play for in Casement Park on Saturday, Fitzpatrick said he will not rush back his injured stars, such as Paddy Keenan and Ray Finnegan.
Speaking after the game, a dejected Fitzpatrick said: "We just did not play well for the whole 70 minutes which is very disappointing.
"I think the difference was and in fairness to Roscommon, they were more hungry than us today, they were first to the ball. I just thought it was a bad day at the office.
"We got two opportunities there at the very end, Shane Lennon went straight for goal and missed a goal and Adrian Reid had an opportunity for a goal aswell, but it was one of those days when nothing went well for us. I thought we could have sneaked a draw in the end but it wasn't our day and that's it."
After last week's result against Fermanagh, Fitzpatrick's men were expected to continue their rich vein of form against Roscommon, but it just did not happen on the day, something the Louth manager put down to Roscommon's perilous position.
"I knew this was going to be a hard, physical game of football. Roscommon have been unlucky in their last three games, losing the games by a total of four points, and I knew today if Roscommon were beat today, they would be relegated and in typical Roscommon style, they came and they fought and they bet us in our back garden.
"It is a set-back. We are very disappointed. I'm disappointed for the lads as they put fantastic effort into it. I cannot have any complaints at all. I know we might not have played well but they the one thing that showed is that they never stopped trying and that's the most important thing at the moment."
Throughout the week, Fitzpatrick and his backroom staff will look at the defensive frailties which were exposed again, but one thing he will not do is rush back injured players for the top of the table clash with Antrim.
It's do or bust next Saturday. If we want to get promotion to Division Two we have to beat Antrim. Before this, we were hoping to get four points out of the last six. Now we are looking to get four out of four.
I do not think it is looking good for a lot of the lads coming back. If they are not right, I am not going to play them. The most important game at the moment is the Antrim game and I cannot take a chance.
All I asked when I took this job was that the lads gave me 100% and today, we didn't play well, but we kept the heads held up high, we kept chasing, we kept hassling. Roscommon are not a bad team, they are a physical team so all I can hope is that we can bounce back against Antrim and if we bounce back, we are back in the race and if not, that is it.
Sure ive being saying that all along ;D
We still have a chance of going up and also getting relegated! Playing Fermanagh and Roscommon at a bad time with them well improved from their early season form but I think we've kicked on a bit in recent weeks to.
Yeah Seanie I had ye down as bankers for promotion at start of the year.
I still think you have more of a chance of going up than down.
Would fancy ye to beat Fermanagh this weekend and get right back in hunt to go up.
Think both Sligo and Ross have gained a bit of confidence from the U21s.
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2010, 08:10:53 PM
Which McGourty? All 3 would be welcome into our forward line. Even the da could make the bench which was very light on Sunday.
On that point, what's the deal with Kevin Brady? He's been on the bench but hasn't got a run.
Exactly that, he just hasn't got a run. Probably should have been on last week, or at least came on to steady the ship when we were ahead.
So potentially with 2 games left any of the teams bar Antrim could be relegated, is that right?
Still reckon Ros and perhaps Cavan might go down.
Correct. Cavan have 2 homes games left and a +3 pts difference so its in their own hands really.
Na, Antrim are safe
Will be an interesting few weeks so, some achievement for Antrim if they go from Div 4 to Div 2 in 2 years.
Quote from: rossie mad on March 26, 2010, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: drici on March 26, 2010, 11:21:25 AM
Fitzpatrick will not rush back injured stars for top of the table Antrim clash
"It's do or bust next Saturday. If we want to get promotion to Division Two we have to beat Antrim. Before this, we were hoping to get four points out of the last six. Now we are looking to get four out of four."
PeteR Fitzpatrick
Louth Manager
By Gary McLaughlin
Louth boss Peter Fitzpatrick was extremely disappointed following Louth's shock loss to Roscommon.
The defeat seriously dented the promotion push to Division Two, but rather than blame the players, Fitzpatrick thought it was just "one of those days."
Now, with everything to play for in Casement Park on Saturday, Fitzpatrick said he will not rush back his injured stars, such as Paddy Keenan and Ray Finnegan.
Speaking after the game, a dejected Fitzpatrick said: "We just did not play well for the whole 70 minutes which is very disappointing.
"I think the difference was and in fairness to Roscommon, they were more hungry than us today, they were first to the ball. I just thought it was a bad day at the office.
"We got two opportunities there at the very end, Shane Lennon went straight for goal and missed a goal and Adrian Reid had an opportunity for a goal aswell, but it was one of those days when nothing went well for us. I thought we could have sneaked a draw in the end but it wasn't our day and that's it."
After last week's result against Fermanagh, Fitzpatrick's men were expected to continue their rich vein of form against Roscommon, but it just did not happen on the day, something the Louth manager put down to Roscommon's perilous position.
"I knew this was going to be a hard, physical game of football. Roscommon have been unlucky in their last three games, losing the games by a total of four points, and I knew today if Roscommon were beat today, they would be relegated and in typical Roscommon style, they came and they fought and they bet us in our back garden.
"It is a set-back. We are very disappointed. I'm disappointed for the lads as they put fantastic effort into it. I cannot have any complaints at all. I know we might not have played well but they the one thing that showed is that they never stopped trying and that's the most important thing at the moment."
Throughout the week, Fitzpatrick and his backroom staff will look at the defensive frailties which were exposed again, but one thing he will not do is rush back injured players for the top of the table clash with Antrim.
It's do or bust next Saturday. If we want to get promotion to Division Two we have to beat Antrim. Before this, we were hoping to get four points out of the last six. Now we are looking to get four out of four.
I do not think it is looking good for a lot of the lads coming back. If they are not right, I am not going to play them. The most important game at the moment is the Antrim game and I cannot take a chance.
All I asked when I took this job was that the lads gave me 100% and today, we didn't play well, but we kept the heads held up high, we kept chasing, we kept hassling. Roscommon are not a bad team, they are a physical team so all I can hope is that we can bounce back against Antrim and if we bounce back, we are back in the race and if not, that is it.
Sure ive being saying that all along ;D
Reminds me of a quote by another Louth man...
"San Marino are going to be a handful as the group goes on" ;)
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on March 26, 2010, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: rossie mad on March 26, 2010, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: drici on March 26, 2010, 11:21:25 AM
Fitzpatrick will not rush back injured stars for top of the table Antrim clash
"It's do or bust next Saturday. If we want to get promotion to Division Two we have to beat Antrim. Before this, we were hoping to get four points out of the last six. Now we are looking to get four out of four."
PeteR Fitzpatrick
Louth Manager
By Gary McLaughlin
Louth boss Peter Fitzpatrick was extremely disappointed following Louth's shock loss to Roscommon.
The defeat seriously dented the promotion push to Division Two, but rather than blame the players, Fitzpatrick thought it was just "one of those days."
Now, with everything to play for in Casement Park on Saturday, Fitzpatrick said he will not rush back his injured stars, such as Paddy Keenan and Ray Finnegan.
Speaking after the game, a dejected Fitzpatrick said: "We just did not play well for the whole 70 minutes which is very disappointing.
"I think the difference was and in fairness to Roscommon, they were more hungry than us today, they were first to the ball. I just thought it was a bad day at the office.
"We got two opportunities there at the very end, Shane Lennon went straight for goal and missed a goal and Adrian Reid had an opportunity for a goal aswell, but it was one of those days when nothing went well for us. I thought we could have sneaked a draw in the end but it wasn't our day and that's it."
After last week's result against Fermanagh, Fitzpatrick's men were expected to continue their rich vein of form against Roscommon, but it just did not happen on the day, something the Louth manager put down to Roscommon's perilous position.
"I knew this was going to be a hard, physical game of football. Roscommon have been unlucky in their last three games, losing the games by a total of four points, and I knew today if Roscommon were beat today, they would be relegated and in typical Roscommon style, they came and they fought and they bet us in our back garden.
"It is a set-back. We are very disappointed. I'm disappointed for the lads as they put fantastic effort into it. I cannot have any complaints at all. I know we might not have played well but they the one thing that showed is that they never stopped trying and that's the most important thing at the moment."
Throughout the week, Fitzpatrick and his backroom staff will look at the defensive frailties which were exposed again, but one thing he will not do is rush back injured players for the top of the table clash with Antrim.
It's do or bust next Saturday. If we want to get promotion to Division Two we have to beat Antrim. Before this, we were hoping to get four points out of the last six. Now we are looking to get four out of four.
I do not think it is looking good for a lot of the lads coming back. If they are not right, I am not going to play them. The most important game at the moment is the Antrim game and I cannot take a chance.
All I asked when I took this job was that the lads gave me 100% and today, we didn't play well, but we kept the heads held up high, we kept chasing, we kept hassling. Roscommon are not a bad team, they are a physical team so all I can hope is that we can bounce back against Antrim and if we bounce back, we are back in the race and if not, that is it.
Sure ive being saying that all along ;D
Reminds me of a quote by another Louth man...
"San Marino are going to be a handful as the group goes on" ;)
Ha great analogy!!
Maybe Dundalk people just don't make good managers....
Have a feeling that Fermanagh may get a win on Sunday.
The defence has a better look to it and with McEllroy in a WHF he will be playing the sweeper role he has played so effectively over the last few years.
Gallagher and Maguire should give us a cutting edge up front as well and McGrath has had 2 games now and should be returning to near full fitness.
Have a feeling it will not be pretty but we will emerge with the 2 points.
Quote from: FermGael on March 26, 2010, 09:00:02 PM
Have a feeling that Fermanagh may get a win on Sunday.
The defence has a better look to it and with McEllroy in a WHF he will be playing the sweeper role he has played so effectively over the last few years.
Gallagher and Maguire should give us a cutting edge up front as well and McGrath has had 2 games now and should be returning to near full fitness.
Have a feeling it will not be pretty but we will emerge with the 2 points.
I am hopeful myself of a victory this Sunday. Apparently Fermanagh played well last Sunday and really should have had Wexford dead and buried 10 minutes into the 2nd half as they missed at least a goal and 3 points.
Good to see Gallagher back to add an extra dimension in the forward dept and Eamon back too should be a serious threat to any defence. 2 games should have brought McGrath on a good bit too. From what I gather from chatting to few people down at the game last week in Wexford I heard McElroy was acting as sweeper again and doing a good job by all accounts and when plenty of break ball.
A victory on Sunday and the final game V Cavan could save fermanagh from the drop! fingers crossed
Hmmm, this is of a very similar vein to myself and a few of the other fermanagh lads reasoning before the last game. We were wrong....Hope yous aren't!
well lads Antrim versus Louth tonight just decided I'm not gonna bother heading up to Casement feck it
I'll listen to the game on the wireless and get a few updates here and watch the GAA on Setanta....!!
I'll preview tonights game from a louth perspective
....Any word on the Antrim team?
I reckon the louth team will start roughly the same as the last day with a few possible changes Ray finnegan, PK and Colm Judge may come into the side if they are fit enough...even if they are not Our manager will throw them on and take them off!!
1>Neil Gallagher
2>Ronan Greene
3>Dessie Finnegan
4>John O'Brien
5>Stephen Fitzpatrick
6>Mick Fanning
7>Liam Shevlin...............Ray Finnegan
8>Brian White
9>Derek Crilly..................Paddy Keenan
10>andy McDonell
11>Mark Brennan
12>Derek maguire
13>Shane lennon
14>JP Rooney
15>Aaron Hoey...............Colm Judge
Our full back and forward lines are competitive and in fact our strengths the problem is the middle sector the we fail to deliver a quality ball into our inside line and our full back line is over worked and highly exposed.
Winning breaking ball has not been our greatest downfall and Brian white does win his fair amount of marks....
But the big problem with this Louth side is the use of the ball in the middle sector and support play....
The movement in our forward line is non existent making it impossible for our defence to find an outlet so what we tend to do is congest the middle with hand passes and build a horribly slow lateral attack
I'm not sure how antrim match up to louth in these areas....but Our halfback in my opinion is nowhere near inter county Standard without ray finnegan and I expect Tomas Mccann to have a field day tonight....
Although louth would have no fear going into this game, Antrim with there Galls men back will have just enough to win.
From radio reports big crowd in Casement tonight!
Antrim team
1-McGreevy
2-Healy
3-douglas
4-O'Boyle
5-Scullion
6-Crozier
7-S kelly
8-McCann
9-Herron
10-Terry O'Neill
11-K niblock
12-j Loughrey
13-p Cunningham
14-G O'boyle
15-TMcCann
louth have named Pk and ray finnegan but not 100% they're starting
game not started yet wee delay
1wide antrim
1point M McCann
louth wide
1-7 to 1 to Antrim.....
we're pathetic!
Bad to worse
2-7 to 1-0
all over the shop!
2-8 to a goal
1 Aontroim 6 5 1 0 97 71 10
2 An Cabhán 6 3 3 0 97 88 6
3 Loch Garman 5 3 2 0 68 64 6
4 An Lú 6 3 3 0 83 80 6
5 Sligeach 5 3 2 0 69 72 6
6 Uibh Fhaili 6 3 3 0 89 92 6
7 Fear Manach 5 1 4 0 52 72 2
8 Ros Comáin 5 1 4 0 70 86 2
Promoted: Antrim + 1 other
Relegated: Fermanagh and Roscommon must win both remaining fixtures to have any chance of staying up.
Well from a Fermanagh point of view it's do or die tomorrow.
2 wins from 2 is what is needed to have any chance of staying up
Glory days for us at present --great win tonight!
It's not looking for us. We need to hammer Sligo tomorrow and then have to go to Cavan and win, but as they showed tonight they're very strong at home. Our chances of staying up look remote as it goes down to scoring difference if there are more than two teams on 6 points.
I still hope we put in decent performances in our last two games to gain some confidence for the championship.
Quote from: FermGael on March 27, 2010, 09:42:46 PM
Well from a Fermanagh point of view it's do or die tomorrow.
2 wins from 2 is what is needed to have any chance of staying up
Unfortunately it doesn't look like two wins will be enough
I'm afraid the likelihood is it's us and Fermanagh :'( :-\ :(
If fermanagh and Ros were to win their home games tomorrow it would unbelievably leave Cavan in 2nd place on score difference with a home game to Fermanagh remaining. Saying that, we would probably get bet by Fermanagh if it came down to that
delighted with tonights result. was listening to it on northern all light no sound up to half time and it seemed like the same old story. fast start reined in so i headed to the hurling territory boozer. if we were to win next weekend against fermanagh and stay where we are i wouldn't be too unhappy. we have finally pensioned off forde, dermot, jason, larry and tonight were without sheridan, galligan, givney and johnston. as much as we can expect.
myles, at one level those results tomorrow would be great but do you think there is some small chance our under 21's could get distracted. i can't look beyond the chance of giving the mushroom pickers a one point seeing to come wednesday.
happy and cant be bothered to be upper case based.
do we hope for that though? AC
Remember its not scoring difference now,which those fuckin arseholes in the GAA ruling body have discarded with >:(,but head to head that these things are now decided on. As we would have been fine after tonights win under the previous rules,barring something unlikely from Fermanagh over the last two weeks. Now Fermanagh winning tommorow and beating us in the last league game could potentially relegate us???
???
I dont know what to hope for.
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 27, 2010, 10:31:29 PM
delighted with tonights result. was listening to it on northern all light no sound up to half time and it seemed like the same old story. fast start reined in so i headed to the hurling territory boozer. if we were to win next weekend against fermanagh and stay where we are i wouldn't be too unhappy. we have finally pensioned off forde, dermot, jason, larry and tonight were without sheridan, galligan, givney and johnston. as much as we can expect.
myles, at one level those results tomorrow would be great but do you think there is some small chance our under 21's could get distracted. i can't look beyond the chance of giving the mushroom pickers a one point seeing to come wednesday.
happy and cant be bothered to be upper case based.
I doubt it. There is only Givney involved in both camps isn't there and he played no part tonight. Hyland seems to be doing a good job with U21's so you'd have to hope he'll keep the lads motivated and sure you don't need much of that when your up against Monaghan. Hope to make that match, working on sign off from the missus as we speak :D
Wexford and Sligo win. Antrim not home and dry just yet.
Who do Sligo play in the last game? Probably be hoping for an antrim win.
Quote from: hardstation on March 28, 2010, 04:21:49 PM
Hold on, we are officially promoted!
Wexford and Sligo are the only teams who can draw level with us on points.
We beat Sligo, so, on the 'head to head' rule we stay ahead of them.
Is that right?
Not if three teams finish on the same points. In that case its score difference.
1 Aontroim 6 5 1 0 97 71 10
2 Loch Garman 6 4 2 0 83 76 8
3 Sligeach 6 4 2 0 93 86 8
4 An Cabhán 6 3 3 0 97 88 6
5 An Lú 6 3 3 0 83 80 6
6 Uibh Fhaili 6 3 3 0 89 92 6
7 Fear Manach 6 1 5 0 66 96 2
8 Ros Comáin 6 1 5 0 82 101 2
With that points difference its done and dusted for Antrim. Wexford/Sligo could come down to the head to head, which would favour Wexford, but as they're playing Antrim it could tie them all level, and then points diff would decide.
Roscommon relegated, just not good enough for Division 3 according to Seamus Duke on Mid West.
Shows the improvements made by both counties though.
We'll need to watch out in the Connacht quarter final. It's a seriously awkward opener for us against Sligo.
Quote from: hardstation on March 28, 2010, 04:42:11 PM
Wexford.
If we beat Wexford and Sligo get anything next week, the Div 3 final will be last year's Div 4 final. Unreal scenario.
are we up or not?
If Wexford beat us and Sligo win and we are all on 10 points do we go up as we beat Sligo? or is it points diff then? We've +26 while Wexford are +7 so you'd hope we wouldnt lose by that much next week
Happy enough today, 1st half was very good, disappointing to let Fermanagh back to 3pts, but that was down to a useless ref, and then kicked on again to finish strong.
We were decent today but fermanagh were dire.
If Antrim win or draw and we win were up. If Wexford win, all we have to do is beat Roscommon by more than whatever wexford win by and we will be up. So to be honest very confident of going up but when Sligo are favourites usually we collapse but just cant see it happening with Marren and O Hara back.
Congrats to our players and management though, momentum and great reaction to wexford game.
Good man Sligonian. Yeah - super result as I thought Fermanagh would be hard beaten up there. When you only have the Ocean FM commentary to rely on its hard to know much about the game so if you had a chance it would be good to know who did well etc.
So two big games against Roscommon in the next two weeks and both in Markievicz Park. Looking forward to them.
I'm a little unclear on the new rules. If wexford beat Antrim and we beat Roscommon does it mean we don't get promoted as we have lost to both of those teams?
Quote from: hardstation on March 28, 2010, 11:06:42 PM
I have a feeling Roscommon could cause a surprise. Don't know why, just a feeling.
I think we'll beat Wexford too.
That means a Cavan win will see them go up.
Weve won all our home games HS, Roscommon already relegated, Sligo momentum going in and as I said marren and ohara back, jees i will be shocked if we mess this up.
Not so sure if Ros are better than the results, think division 4 is exactly where we we should be now. Not much to look forward to next year :-[
I would expect Sligo to beat us the next day but I suppose from a Ros point of view the U-21 encounter on Easter saturday will be much more important now.
If Antrim get within 10 points of Wexford, the Saffrons gain a second consecutive promotion.
Am I right?
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 29, 2010, 10:48:09 AM
If Antrim get within 10 points of Wexford, the Saffrons gain a second consecutive promotion.
Am I right?
Yes ss2...For Antrim to miss out I think the scenario is that Wexford have to beat Antrim by at least 10 points or more
and Sligo have to beat Roscommon by 10 or more (or a greater combination that would leave Sligo ahead of Antrim on points diff. e.g. Antrim lose by 15, then Sligo would only need to win by 5). Current points difference is Antrim +26, Wexford +7, Sligo +7.
Antrim played some great football at times on Sat night and if they continue this sort of form should get the result they need at Wexford.
Hopefully Antrim go up, out of the teams I have seen in this division they are the best side.
Is there no NFL Division 4 thread on this website? I was gonna check in and see what the craic was with the footballing strongholds of Carlow, Kilkenny, Leitrim, Limerick and Longford. No Ulster derbies for us lads next season to worry about which is a relief.
Its looking like Wexford could beat both Sligo and Antrim and still go out on points difference despite the head to head rule being introduced to prevent this happening.
Still we may beat Antrim first.....
Quote from: sammymaguire on March 29, 2010, 12:34:07 PM
Is there no NFL Division 4 thread on this website? I was gonna check in and see what the craic was with the footballing strongholds of Carlow, Kilkenny, Leitrim, Limerick and Longford. No Ulster derbies for us lads next season to worry about which is a relief.
I knew I'd seen one.
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15350.0
Or alternatively look at the bottom of this main page
Quote from: boro on March 29, 2010, 03:04:11 PM
Its looking like Wexford could beat both Sligo and Antrim and still go out on points difference despite the head to head rule being introduced to prevent this happening.
Still we may beat Antrim first.....
I would be shocked if Wexford beat Antrim, id be even more shocked if we lose. But then again I thought Ireland would walk the scots game. Look sport is strange no one knows the future, it'll be an exciting nervous last day and may the best team go up with Antrim.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 29, 2010, 10:35:06 PM
Quote from: boro on March 29, 2010, 03:04:11 PM
Its looking like Wexford could beat both Sligo and Antrim and still go out on points difference despite the head to head rule being introduced to prevent this happening.
Still we may beat Antrim first.....
I would be shocked if Wexford beat Antrim, id be even more shocked if we lose. But then again I thought Ireland would walk the scots game. Look sport is strange no one knows the future, it'll be an exciting nervous last day and may the best team go up with Antrim.
Where are Wexford playing Antrim? If it's down in Wexford then I wouldn't be surprised if Wexford get a narrow win. They are hard to beat down there.
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 30, 2010, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on March 29, 2010, 10:35:06 PM
Quote from: boro on March 29, 2010, 03:04:11 PM
Its looking like Wexford could beat both Sligo and Antrim and still go out on points difference despite the head to head rule being introduced to prevent this happening.
Still we may beat Antrim first.....
I would be shocked if Wexford beat Antrim, id be even more shocked if we lose. But then again I thought Ireland would walk the scots game. Look sport is strange no one knows the future, it'll be an exciting nervous last day and may the best team go up with Antrim.
Where are Wexford playing Antrim? If it's down in Wexford then I wouldn't be surprised if Wexford get a narrow win. They are hard to beat down there.
Yes Antrim play Wexford in Wexford
Matty is back....
Jeez, aren't you the sporting one ::)
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2010, 01:22:16 PM
Quote from: boro on March 31, 2010, 10:45:34 AM
Matty is back....
Great to see. Super player.
Sure is, probaly wont be playing against Antrim as he wouldn't have match fitness yet, but will be a godsend for us come championship.
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2010, 01:33:51 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on March 31, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
Jeez, aren't you the sporting one ::)
Eh? I don't follow.
might have been a remark following the stuff you were on about on the Fermanagh thread
Am I right in saying, if the following results happen Cavan will be promoted...
Antrim beat Wexford
Roscommon beat Sligo
Offaly v Louth, doesn't matter as long as Louth don't win by 7 pts more than Cavan win or Offaly don't win by 13pts more than Cavan
Cavan beat Fermanagh
Am I right, current table is below
Antrim 10pts +26
Wexford 8pts +7
Sligo 8pts +7
Cavan 6pts +9
Louth 6ts +3
Offaly 6pt -3
Fermanagh 2pts -30
Roscommon 2pts -19
Edited by Mod3. Eastern Pride gets a 5 day ban for flagrant rule 1. Completely OTT.
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on April 07, 2010, 07:15:10 AM
Edited by Mod3. Eastern Pride gets a 5 day ban for flagrant rule 1. Completely OTT.
missed that one, must have been controversial :D Cavan will beat Fermanagh so will be in the reckoning for sure
I'd be quietly confident of beating Antrim as we are normally strong on home turf. After that it will be in the lap of the Gods re other results and scoring difference. At least we are there or there abouts come the business end of the league.
From our point of view i'd be hoping for Louth, Cavan, and Sligo all to lose. ;) Whats the chances....
Antrim and Sligo to be promoted ;D
Good luck to our lads.
Quote from: sammymaguire on April 07, 2010, 09:11:02 AM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on April 07, 2010, 07:15:10 AM
Edited by Mod3. Eastern Pride gets a 5 day ban for flagrant rule 1. Completely OTT.
missed that one, must have been controversial :D Cavan will beat Fermanagh so will be in the reckoning for sure
He could get off on a technicality though - just had a look at rule 1, 5 day ban isn't an available punishment... :o
I was one of the "lucky" ones that got to read it before it was pulled. The post was of such high intellect I think we should organise a protest to get him back on. His contribution is necessary ::)
Quote from: hardstation on April 07, 2010, 01:52:41 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2010, 01:45:29 PM
I was one of the "lucky" ones that got to read it before it was pulled. The post was of such high intellect I think we should organise a protest to get him back on. His contribution is necessary ::)
What was the jist of it? Strange for a Wicklow man to come on to this thread and have a rant at 7 in the morning.
It was quite a rant, aimed at you and whilst it was only a matter of time before it was deleted it was as spectacular a rant as I've ever seen. 'Twas kind of gibberish
I'm still laughing at it though
if Wexford beat Antrim then both get promoted?
Quote from: hardstation on April 07, 2010, 02:17:38 PM
Excellent. Put it back up mods.
In fairness it had the look of someone mischief making at the poster's expense. Sort of Bard of Aughrim jobby.
Quote from: hardstation on April 07, 2010, 02:31:35 PM
Quote from: passedit on April 07, 2010, 02:28:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 07, 2010, 02:17:38 PM
Excellent. Put it back up mods.
In fairness it had the look of someone mischief making at the poster's expense. Sort of Bard of Aughrim jobby.
You mean there is someone out there with no gaaboard account, who is out to get me? Scary stuff this internet.
It's not all about you HS. ;) I'd say it was more an attempt to embarrass the account holder. Or maybe he is an incoherant nutjob. Would his previous posts suggest as much?
Quote from: hardstation on April 07, 2010, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2010, 02:23:49 PM
if Wexford beat Antrim then both get promoted?
No. If Sligo beat Roscommon by more than Wexford beat Antrim, Antrim and Sligo go up. If Wexford beat Antrim by more than Sligo beat Roscommon, Antrim and Wexford go up. If both Sligo and Wexford win by 10 points +, they both go up.
Ohh s*it so the Sligo boys will blame us if we don't let them hammer us
Judging by Results so far... i can't see Sligo Beating us by more than 3/4 points & i expect Wexford to win
so will be time to get the Calculator out on Sunday afternoon
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2010, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 07, 2010, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2010, 02:23:49 PM
if Wexford beat Antrim then both get promoted?
No. If Sligo beat Roscommon by more than Wexford beat Antrim, Antrim and Sligo go up. If Wexford beat Antrim by more than Sligo beat Roscommon, Antrim and Wexford go up. If both Sligo and Wexford win by 10 points +, they both go up.
Ohh s*it so the Sligo boys will blame us if we don't let them hammer us
Judging by Results so far... i can't see Sligo Beating us by more than 3/4 points & i expect Wexford to win
so will be time to get the Calculator out on Sunday afternoon
We are capable of beating Roscommon by alot but with being favourites id have a slight worry our old failings will comeback. HS has it right though in all those permutations. I'll be shocked if Wexford beat Antrim to be honest.
We only look at ourselves ross4life, as you seen from the u21 final. Roscommon dont like to lose to us no matter if yer relegated or not so we dont expect the charity we showed yee last sat ;).
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 07, 2010, 03:41:12 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2010, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 07, 2010, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 07, 2010, 02:23:49 PM
if Wexford beat Antrim then both get promoted?
No. If Sligo beat Roscommon by more than Wexford beat Antrim, Antrim and Sligo go up. If Wexford beat Antrim by more than Sligo beat Roscommon, Antrim and Wexford go up. If both Sligo and Wexford win by 10 points +, they both go up.
Ohh s*it so the Sligo boys will blame us if we don't let them hammer us
Judging by Results so far... i can't see Sligo Beating us by more than 3/4 points & i expect Wexford to win
so will be time to get the Calculator out on Sunday afternoon
We are capable of beating Roscommon by alot but with being favourites id have a slight worry our old failings will comeback. HS has it right though in all those permutations. I'll be shocked if Wexford beat Antrim to be honest.
We only look at ourselves ross4life, as you seen from the u21 final. Roscommon dont like to lose to us no matter if yer relegated or not so we dont expect the charity we showed yee last sat ;).
to be honest now that we are relegated i have little or no interest in this game
& the Under 21 players are expected to be given a well earned rest this sunday ;)
saying all that it would be nice to have rematch in July don't you think 8)
If Sligo beat Roscommon I'd say it will be by very little. To go up I'd say we'll need Antrim to get a win/draw or hold Wexford to a 1 point win or something like that.
well it's confirmed Roscommon will rest all the under 21 players on sunday
so we are without our three best senior players shine, Garvey & higgins
so the 3/4 point defeat i predicted shall be changed to a 7/8 point defeat
Quote from: ross4life on April 08, 2010, 05:23:41 PM
well it's confirmed Roscommon will rest all the under 21 players on sunday
so we are without our three best senior players shine, Garvey & higgins
so the 3/4 point defeat i predicted shall be changed to a 7/8 point defeat
If true how do ye feel about that? I can understand it but I wouldnt agree with it. I think Roscommon are putting way to much emphasis on underage at the min, No one can tell me a win in Markievicz wouldnt be a fair boost going into championship. Remember underage is really to feed the seniors, and IMO the seniors should always be priority.
Thanks all the same though lads ;)
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 08, 2010, 06:01:03 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 08, 2010, 05:23:41 PM
well it's confirmed Roscommon will rest all the under 21 players on sunday
so we are without our three best senior players shine, Garvey & higgins
so the 3/4 point defeat i predicted shall be changed to a 7/8 point defeat
If true how do ye feel about that? I can understand it but I wouldnt agree with it. I think Roscommon are putting way to much emphasis on underage at the min, No one can tell me a win in Markievicz wouldnt be a fair boost going into championship. Remember underage is really to feed the seniors, and IMO the seniors should always be priority.
Thanks all the same though lads ;)
Mixed feelings i guess
first off where relegated so if we still had something to play for you can be sure those players would not be rested
Sure we need any type of boost for the championship & a heavy defeat here won't be good
but one plus others players will now get the chance to impress
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 08, 2010, 06:01:03 PM
. I think Roscommon are putting way to much emphasis on underage at the min,
We have no choice. We have about 4 decent footballers over 23 in the County.
An U 21 All Ireland would certainly be more of a boost to the County than putting up a decent show in the last Round of Div 3 NFL.
I think you'll find the crowd last Saturday was bigger than attended Ros's 6 NFL games and I suspect it was bigger than ye're 6 as well.
Shows you that you are perhaps alone in your running down of under age .
Would you have a different view if Sligo had won last Sat? :D ::) :P
Theres no such thing as putting too much emphasis on underage,
Rossies have failed to perform at senior level due to one element,
They have not had a manager that has been able to build a team around that great talent.
Maughan and now O Donnell havent produced,
By the way Which of them drove away the experienced lads like Big Seamie and Gary Cox,Karl Mannion etc?
Some may counter this argument with" some of those minors/under 21's havent progressed",
All you have to do is look at the likes of Donie Shine/Cathal Cregg excelling in a star studded DCU Line up to see what type of talent is there.
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2010, 08:45:26 PM
By the way Which of them drove away the experienced lads like Big Seamie and Gary Cox,Karl Mannion etc?
Big Seamie hasnt been fit enough for the last 3 years and wasnt able to give commitment this year for work reasons.
Gary cox left of his own accord in February as an ankle injury wasnt clearing up while Karol Mannion is only coming back to club football after a bad injury last Summer.
In addition - J Nolan,D Casey,D Flynn,MO'Carroll,Finneran(I think),F Cregg,DO'Gara and S Kilbride are out with long term injuries. Meanwhile Donal Ward and David Keenan only returned to the panel in recent weeks following long term injuries incurred in 2009.
As well as that any of the recent under age players coming into the Senior team are basically going into a "black hole"( like Anglo Irish Bank >:() as there are few or no good senior players there to bring them along unlike young lads coming onto teams like Kerry,Tyrone , even Mayowestros etc etc.
So as Brian Cowen might put it we have some more years of pain but when Sam comes the the Square in Roscommon Town( 2015 ish) it will all be forgotten ;D
What age is Frankie Dolan? Wwas there a fella Dunning in the forwards who was quite young too?
Frankie is 32 this year. He came back in 08 and was not a success.
Dunning is 30 this year but would not bring anything to the team except a bit of head down brainless running out to the corner flag.
I can't see how that's anything other than a sensible move. If Offaly had a meaningless game on Sunday, but were gearing up for a Provincial U21 semi final, I'd do one of two thing. Either play the entire 21s team if you want them to have a game, or rest all the senior panelists from the 21s.
I would also agree even though it puts slightly more pressue on wexford /antrim.
Whoever deserves to go up will go up anyway.
Really wishing we'd have beaten or drawn with offaly now :-[
Agree with AZ
As much as us Cavan lads would love to see Ros have a strong team out on Sunday,
if i were them i wouldnt play any the under 21's.
I think / hope we'll beat Wexford.
I don't like the fact there's a chance it won't happen though!
already got the Opinion from SLIGONIAN but how do the wexford & antrim people think they will fare in division 2 next year?
Quote from: ross4life on April 08, 2010, 11:58:06 PM
already got the Opinion from SLIGONIAN but how do the wexford & antrim people think they will fare in division 2 next year?
Not an Antrim or Wexford poster,but my two cents
Division 2 next year
Derry
Monaghan most likely
Kildare
Laois
Meath
Donegal/Arrmagh
Id say Antrim would cope fairly well,with those bunch of teams.You could make a reasonable enough case for Antrim being better than some of them.
Sligo would struggle in Division two in my opinion,
Wexford's aspirations would depend on which wexford shows up.
The Wexford team who beat Sligo comfortably(would be fine)
The Wexford team who were well beaten and only stayed close due to frees,against Cavan,wouldnt win a game or get a single point in Division 2
Matty is unlikely to face Antrim
ALL THINGS going right, Matty Forde will have two weeks of intercounty training under his belt by the time Sunday's big National League showdown against Antrim gets underway.
But he is still unlikely to play a part in the big match.
This is largely because Wexford football's greatest ever scoring talent is still only nursing his way back from a number of serious injuries, most particularly a back problem.
In addition, his match sharpness is way off the mark, and Wexford manager Jason Ryan is certainly cautious about sending the Kilanerin-Ballyfad man back into the fray too early.
"We could throw Matty on against Antrim and maybe there would be no problem in terms of the injuries," the boss suggests, before he ponders: "The other side of that is that Matty has not played inter-county football for quite some time, so if we play him now we could actually end up only putting him back in terms of making a complete recovery.
"That would be unfair to Matty and his club because they could end up losing him for the championship which would make no sense whatsoever. He has been too good a servant to Wexford for us to misuse him now.
He simply has to be treated in the right manner and make sure he is fit and able to play at the high standard which he always sets himself.
"It could be disastrous if we put him in when he is not fully right."
Sligo 0-20 Roscommon 0-13 looks like i was spot on with the margin of defeat
Congrats to the Sligo Boys on promotion & of course Antrim
Well done Sligo (and Antrim). Back to back promotions is a great achievement.
Just back from a sun drenched Wexford Park. Good win for the lads but didn't matter in the end. Thought Antrim looked sharp, good movement in the forwards (unlike Wexford) and quick all round the pitch. Ye should do well come championship. Wexford were sluggish enough, still short a few lads, but these should be back for the start of the championship. We could definitely do with the likes of Matty and Banville back in the forwards. Congrats to Sligo and Antrim, but still a tiny bit annoyed at the wait it all played out. (beating both, but then points difference counting, Sligo playin a relegated Roscommon, etc). But sure that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Roll on the championship :)
Rossie and Antrim hoors couldnt keep their part of the bargain >:( >:( :D
Congratulations to Sligo and Antrim(back to back promotions is a great achievement)
Congrats to Sligo and Antrim.
Sligo won well today without getting out of 3rd gear. Mannion was back for Roscommon but is still rusty. Delighted to get promoted. We were without McGee and Marren who are injured, and still scored 0-20 pts with missing some sitters. We worked hard throughout, brehony was outstanding, as was kelly, harrison and cawley, Our midfeild we excellent aswell. The whole team played well really but against poor opposition, some of the ball into the roscommon forwards was atrocious. On this viewing London and Leitrim are going to run ye close. Sligo have improved alot since wexford and fair play to them for that. Id like to thank Kevin Walsh and the selectors and the players for turning it around. Well done.
Where will the div 3 final be but with limerick/waterford div4 final, cant be a double header now surely.
You Antrim and Sligo lads can f**k off,you're not one of us anymore ;) :D
Division 3 line-up next year
Tipp
Westmeath
Wexford
Cavan
Louth
Offaly
Waterford
Limerick
Shite
Tipp
Wexford
Waterford
Limerick
All 4 long feckin journeys,
i would love to get majority of them games at home.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 11, 2010, 07:38:33 PM
some of the ball into the roscommon forwards was atrocious. On this viewing London and Leitrim are going to run ye close
You do know we were missing 6/7 players that will start the championship & i wouldn't get to carried away beating our lot anyways
London will run us close, leitrim should fancy there chances to beat us (i have gone on record saying we will lose)
Sligo beat us 7pts today but you must remember leitrim beat us by 6pts a couple of years ago in the league
As bad as we are i Expect promotion for us Rossies next year & Sligo will find it hard in Division 2 but should stay up & avoid the trip to Roscommon in 2012 ;)
Quote from: ross4life on April 11, 2010, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 11, 2010, 07:38:33 PM
some of the ball into the roscommon forwards was atrocious. On this viewing London and Leitrim are going to run ye close
You do know we were missing 6/7 players that will start the championship & i wouldn't get to carried away beating our lot anyways
London will run us close, leitrim should fancy there chances to beat us (i have gone on record saying we will lose)
Sligo beat us 7pts today but you must remember leitrim beat us by 6pts a couple of years ago in the league
As bad as we are i Expect promotion for us Rossies next year & Sligo will find it hard in Division 2 but should stay up & avoid the trip to Roscommon in 2012 ;)
It definitly is a unfamiliar looking Rossie side, the u21s winning AI should create a bit of momentum for ye ;) Dont worry we wont get carried away, we conceded 0-13 today and that is a slight worry considering the opposition. Jees its unreal lobsided Connacht this yr.
Willie Hegarty spoke on Shannonside about the 30 or so Roscommon Fan's that traveled to Sligo but he was Very Surprised by the low home Crowd?
why was this Sligonian with the chance to get to Division 2! if the boot was on the other foot us rossies would have Markievicz Park full
Quote from: hardstation on April 11, 2010, 09:21:49 PM
Where will the final be? Is it still the case that it can't be in Ulster or Connacht as it is seen as an advantage?
Enniskillen and Clones, for example, are seen as an advantage to Antrim.
Surely they'll not play it with the Div 4 final in somewhere like Mullingar.
Breffni, Clones, Brewster or maybe Longford I would say. Mullingar would be daft.
If it's a double header with the division 4 final then it will surely be further south as they'd hardly ask Limerick and Waterford to travel that far north would they?
Quote from: ross4life on April 11, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Willie Hegarty spoke on Shannonside about the 30 or so Roscommon Fan's that traveled to Sligo but he was Very Surprised by the low home Crowd?
why was this Sligonian with the chance to get to Division 2! if the boot was on the other foot us rossies would have Markievicz Park full
Well i did comment on it on HS, I remember 5000 Sligofans down in Clare and in Cavan for promotion finale games and we blew it, we were at Home this time and was there 1000 at it. To me it fcking disgrace but I cant make people go. Sure you seen the u21 game, 8000 at it with at least 6000 rossies. Honestly fair play to those Rossies there today, are a credit to the county, and unlike mayo and galway who are constantly talking ye down as fans, I always got on best with the Rossies. What can I say Sligofans are gone missing. I dont what there waiting for, was a great day today, should of brought out the sunshines. Div2 is about as good as its gonna get IMO. Will be interested in the crowd at the div3 final..
There is no way they can play div3 &4 as a double header with the teams involved. Either make ours atriple header with div2 and 1 in croker, or play it as curtain raiser to Roscommon dublin in Brefni.
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2010, 12:43:25 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 12, 2010, 12:34:17 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 11, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Willie Hegarty spoke on Shannonside about the 30 or so Roscommon Fan's that traveled to Sligo but he was Very Surprised by the low home Crowd?
why was this Sligonian with the chance to get to Division 2! if the boot was on the other foot us rossies would have Markievicz Park full
Well i did comment on it on HS, I remember 5000 Sligofans down in Clare and in Cavan for promotion finale games and we blew it, we were at Home this time and was there 1000 at it. To me it fcking disgrace but I cant make people go. Sure you seen the u21 game, 8000 at it with at least 6000 rossies. Honestly fair play to those Rossies there today, are a credit to the county, and unlike mayo and galway who are constantly talking ye down as fans, I always got on best with the Rossies. What can I say Sligofans are gone missing. I dont what there waiting for, was a great day today, should of brought out the sunshines. Div2 is about as good as its gonna get IMO. Will be interested in the crowd at the div3 final..
It'll depend on the venue of the final. What would Sligo fans think of an early game in Croke Park, before the Div 1 and 2 finals?
If not, what about Omagh or Enniskillen? I know that it would probably be worth 3 or 4 points for Antrim to have it in Ulster but what do the Sligo lads think?
As a Cliffoney man Omagh or Enniskillen suits me fine. I would prefer Croke park to be honest, it seems most logical to me. Theyve had triple headers before. I wouldnt mind a look at mayo aswell before the CSFC. Its either a triple header or game on its own...
When will it be fixed, does anyone know?
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2010, 12:58:38 AM
Excellent. GAA, look here, look here! We all want a triple header at Croke Park. It would be class, I swear.
I swear I will shout for Mayo aswell if ye fix there ;) :P
well in 2007 in the semis we played Cavan & Monaghan played Meath in a double header under lights in Croke park the Final was played in Breffni
Forgot to commiserate Wexford, they beat us well but we didnt turn up and in fairness to them they didnt either that day. But today i was wrong as they beat Antrim. Best of luck next yr in the leinster championship. We were lucky that it was scoring difference (thanks to Offaly beating antrim) and that Alan Costello got that ridiculous last min goal down south.
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2010, 01:28:15 AM
As like last year, Sligo will win the final. You might get them at evens, lump on. We've already won the 'league' as we did last year too. How can the league have a 'final', that's stupid.
;)
Very important game HS, good preparation for Championship is the Sligo view.. ;) trophy is just an added bonus if we win.
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2010, 01:28:15 AM
As like last year, Sligo will win the final. You might get them at evens, lump on. We've already won the 'league' as we did last year too. How can the league have a 'final', that's stupid.
;)
is it a Sligo v Antrim Final? why don't the Gaa do it the way it was.. were you should have Antrim v limerick & Sligo v Waterford
winners play in final
Well done to Antrim and Sligo on back to back promotion - fair achievement!
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2010, 05:00:47 PM
24.04.10 (Sat)
Final
Luimneach V Port Lairge
Time: 5 00 PM, Venue: TBC
Referee: TBC
24.04.10 (Sat)
Final
Aontroim V Sligeach
Time: 7 00 PM, Venue: TBC
Referee: TBC
Hmm....
Portlaoise??? What a trek...
CROKE PARK HERE WE COME.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
NFL DIV3 FINAL
Antrim v Sligo, Croke Park, 7.00pm
Allianz NFL Division 4 final
Waterford v Limerick, Croke Park, 5.00pm
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 12, 2010, 05:08:44 PM
CROKE PARK HERE WE COME.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
NFL DIV3 FINAL
Antrim v Sligo, Croke Park, 7.00pm
Allianz NFL Division 4 final
Waterford v Limerick, Croke Park, 5.00pm
They've obviously paid heed to Ross Carr's criticism from this time last year - a classic GAA quote in the making
"Is this the prize of gaining promotion, to be sent to Longford on a Saturday night?"
;D
Lads in all fairness this makes no sense, there wont be 10,000 at it,
The best thing to do was have div3 and div2 finals double header, and div4 and div1 double header to get the crowds.
Will Waterford and Limerick bring any support? and judging by our support yday i cant see 3000 from Sligo going to it. Although I'll be there.
Still delighted though.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 12, 2010, 05:17:02 PM
Lads in all fairness this makes no sense, there wont be 10,000 at it,
The best thing to do was have div3 and div2 finals double header, and div4 and div1 double header to get the crowds.
Will Waterford and Limerick bring any support? and judging by our support yday i cant see 3000 from Sligo going to it. Although I'll be there.
Still delighted though.
well it's a double header repeat like 2007, the Sligo Game under lights should be worth the Trip alone then a few jars in Quinns should be done after! i'm sure Sligonian will have a great discussion on where it was won & lost there ;)
Quote from: ross4life on April 12, 2010, 05:33:39 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 12, 2010, 05:17:02 PM
Lads in all fairness this makes no sense, there wont be 10,000 at it,
The best thing to do was have div3 and div2 finals double header, and div4 and div1 double header to get the crowds.
Will Waterford and Limerick bring any support? and judging by our support yday i cant see 3000 from Sligo going to it. Although I'll be there.
Still delighted though.
well it's a double header repeat like 2007, the Sligo Game under lights should be worth the Trip alone then a few jars in Quinns should be done after! i'm sure Sligonian will have a great discussion on where it was won & lost there ;)
I give my exclusive reports to internet forums only :P. I never usually go to the pub before or after games, not much of drinker but I have to catch up with a few friends so will defo be seen in Flannerys and coppers later that. Just look out for the guy whos pulled the best looking bird in the place and more than likely itll be me.
Will defo go on the Sunday again aswell as 2 good games in prospect.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 12, 2010, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 12, 2010, 05:33:39 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 12, 2010, 05:17:02 PM
Lads in all fairness this makes no sense, there wont be 10,000 at it,
The best thing to do was have div3 and div2 finals double header, and div4 and div1 double header to get the crowds.
Will Waterford and Limerick bring any support? and judging by our support yday i cant see 3000 from Sligo going to it. Although I'll be there.
Still delighted though.
well it's a double header repeat like 2007, the Sligo Game under lights should be worth the Trip alone then a few jars in Quinns should be done after! i'm sure Sligonian will have a great discussion on where it was won & lost there ;)
I give my exclusive reports to internet forums only :P. I never usually go to the pub before or after games, not much of drinker but I have to catch up with a few friends so will defo be seen in Flannerys and coppers later that. Just look out for the guy whos pulled the best looking bird in the place and more than likely itll be me.
Will defo go on the Sunday again aswell as 2 good games in prospect.
Flannerys..... good looking girls? i don't think that is possible :D
I dont care what the expected attendance is but for a county to run out on the hallowed turf is a proud moment especially for the smaller counties in the lower divisions.
Imagine the ardent supporters of waterford football of the last 20 years or more.
Id safely say they never thought they would see the footballers playing in croke park yes its not an all ireland but to alot of these lads it is.
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2010, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on April 12, 2010, 05:17:02 PM
Lads in all fairness this makes no sense, there wont be 10,000 at it,
The best thing to do was have div3 and div2 finals double header, and div4 and div1 double header to get the crowds.
Will Waterford and Limerick bring any support? and judging by our support yday i cant see 3000 from Sligo going to it. Although I'll be there.
Still delighted though.
Enough of that. I'll be full.
Fixed that for you.
Ballix....I was sure this would be in Enniskillen!! ;)
Delighted with promotion and with the final in Croker. All league finals should be there regardless of crowds.
This league campaign has exceeded my expectations for Sligo. I expected us to be comfortably mid table (but feared a relegation fight if we got injuries) but fair play to the lads - they kicked on after the disastrous outing in Wexford and Div 2 is a nice place to be for next season.
Well done also to Antrim. 14 months ago the two counties were setting out on a bleak looking Div 4 campaign. A great achievement for both.
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 13, 2010, 02:16:16 PM
Delighted with promotion and with the final in Croker. All league finals should be there regardless of crowds.
This league campaign has exceeded my expectations for Sligo. I expected us to be comfortably mid table (but feared a relegation fight if we got injuries) but fair play to the lads - they kicked on after the disastrous outing in Wexford and Div 2 is a nice place to be for next season.
Well done also to Antrim. 14 months ago the two counties were setting out on a bleak looking Div 4 campaign. A great achievement for both.
I agree with that 100%. When Cavan played there a couple of years ago in the old Division 2 semi finals.... jaysus what a day.
Quote from: magpie seanie on April 13, 2010, 02:16:16 PM
Delighted with promotion and with the final in Croker. All league finals should be there regardless of crowds.
This league campaign has exceeded my expectations for Sligo. I expected us to be comfortably mid table (but feared a relegation fight if we got injuries) but fair play to the lads - they kicked on after the disastrous outing in Wexford and Div 2 is a nice place to be for next season.
Well done also to Antrim. 14 months ago the two counties were setting out on a bleak looking Div 4 campaign. A great achievement for both.
Well said, see you in Quinns for a few pints!
I would just like to say that that "outburst" on page 31 was IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS not me at all. Some hooligan managed to access my page after I left it online and caused as much damage as possible. A sincere apology, made on my knees.