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Apparently, but it is possible to effect such without malice. Young lads, huh!

You're some craic Strabane man-  that aside as a hero member what does the thing on this board at the bottom mean where it says, 40 guests,  27 users  7 hidden..  do you know? seriously

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longruns, what's the story with your posts' stats?
As I remember, you were after clocking up somewhere in the region of 500 plus posts and now the numbers are back down to between 270 and 280.
Has Hardstation been onto the mods to nobble your efforts to be the most persistent nuisance consistent poster on the board?

Also, just for the record, having looked at 'that photo' for the past 2 weeks, i don't think there was a 'spit', just a slabber. I didn't see anything on the TV coverage to suggest a spit either.

Maybe you are right, Maguire. I accept you say this as your honest opinion.
However, when you take the flying spittle in conjunction with Ricey's , let us say "high spirits" during the game and the fact that he is pictured holding his opponent's jaw in a firm grip, a reasonable person might be tempted to say he was letting fly with a gobful. You could throw in the fact that he was using his other hand to hold onto the Kerry player- for balance apparently.
Did he really spit? I'm told it is not a relevant matter as it was used in the case against him but then neither was the fact that he grabbed the other fella by the jowls either.

However, to say he molested Galvin or to use similar terminology, is a bit over the top. He jabbed, not grabbed and Galvin collapsed dramatically and then got up and walked away!
BTW: I am not anti_Tyrone in any way and I just think it's a pity than a fine footballer, like McMenamin, has to use such tactics. He could easily have gotten his walking orders.

As several others have already mentioned, time has flown by.
It seems such a short time ago since the news of Cormac's death broke. It was a big shock then and it's still hard to take in the enormity and finality of his sudden passing.
He was a fine sportsman and athlete and God alone knows what he might have achieved if cruel luck had not intervened.
God rest him and bring peace to his family and friends.

Not only is the picture not conclusive, spitting does not constitute the charge of either the CCCC or CHC, or any part of the charge. It's not relevant.

Now, Fear, what I have been trying to say is that it's a bit rich for Mickey Harte to be getting upset about the severity of Ricey's ban when it was up to him as manager to see that the man in question played within the rules of the game.
Furthermore, if I see an individual firmly holding the chin and jaws of another man in his right hand and a stream of spittle flying outward from his mouth in the general direction of the other person, I will draw my own conclusions.
"Not conclusive" is fair enough and everyone is entitled to his or her opinion but it stops a long way short of "definitely did not happen."  
Was it possible that the man was frothing at the mouth? I hardly think so but a shower of spittle did issue from his gob and Ricey was accused of verbal abuse and spitting in the media after the game.
My point was and still is that Harte would have been better employed enforcing discipline on his team instead of moaning about a meaningless extension to a ban that was lenient to begin with.

[Spitting in opponent's faces (as in the pic on RTE's website)]

Tyrone manager Mickey Harte had criticised the length of McMenamin's suspension and he is likely to be angered by the extension of the ban.

However, McMenamin had come in for some scathing criticism in the media and beyond following the incident in the game at Healy Park.

I have nothing personal whatsoever against Mickey Harte or the Tyrone team in general but it's a bit rich for the manager to get steamed up about the severity of McMenamin's ban.
For starters, as manager he is under the cosh too for McMenamin's behaviour throughout the game. It's not as if we are dealing with a single, spur of the moment incident but rather a whole series of loutish incidents throughout the entire match. Harte saw what was going on and chose to do nothing.
Spitting in opponent's faces (as in the pic on RTE's website) name calling and generally acting in a way that had nothing to do with the game being played is not acceptable at any time or in any place.
I wouldn't go overboard about the Galvin incident either. I'd stop far short of calling it a sexual attack as others have done, rather it was a quick jab with his fingers into the groin and Galvin made a meal of it by collapsing dramatically.
But it was only one of a series of unacceptable acts that McMenamin deliberately carried out throughout the course of the match and all of them seemed to have been pre-meditated.
I don't see how any one, Mickey Harte in particular, can have grounds for complaint.



if you are going to try and make sort some of point , for gods sake try and not make a tool of urself with ridiculous comments like the one highlighted!. he did not spit in his face...END OF!

Look again, sunshine at the sentance you bolded yourself.
Here it is, once again:
Spitting in opponent's faces (as in the pic on RTE's website)
I think from the other thread on the subject that this pic is well enough known already.
If you really want, I'll link to it.
BTW: You are the first one I have come across who has claimed Ricey did not spit during the game.

[Paul Caffrey]

His name is Paul Caffrey and he referred to himself as Paul. Mystery solved. Jesus some of you guys must have brought up watching videos of the 70's Dublin knocking the shite out of your county team when you were bold at school. Dublin on the brain isn't the word for it.

With respect, Indiana, he did not!
He referred to himself as Paul Caffrey and did so three times in the space of four sentences. IMO, that has to be a case of going OTT in any language.
Well, at least he didn't resort to using the royal "we!"
People who do this, I'm told are lacking in self-confidence or feel a bit put down. Anyone can do it , usually just a case of being facetious, but three times in four sentences indicates that Pillar was feeling outa sorts.
I'm not being critical from a football point of view; I guess he did his best both as a player and as a manager but this affected way of expresssing oneself does bug me.
It's nearly as annoying as a columnist who refers to himself as "the present writer" or someone who goes "bye, bye, bye" when hanging up the phone as if you're been done a favour by getting a few seconds of their precious time..

Tyrone manager Mickey Harte had criticised the length of McMenamin's suspension and he is likely to be angered by the extension of the ban.

However, McMenamin had come in for some scathing criticism in the media and beyond following the incident in the game at Healy Park.

I have nothing personal whatsoever against Mickey Harte or the Tyrone team in general but it's a bit rich for the manager to get steamed up about the severity of McMenamin's ban.
For starters, as manager he is under the cosh too for McMenamin's behaviour throughout the game. It's not as if we are dealing with a single, spur of the moment incident but rather a whole series of loutish incidents throughout the entire match. Harte saw what was going on and chose to do nothing.
Spitting in opponent's faces (as in the pic on RTE's website) name calling and generally acting in a way that had nothing to do with the game being played is not acceptable at any time or in any place.
I wouldn't go overboard about the Galvin incident either. I'd stop far short of calling it a sexual attack as others have done, rather it was a quick jab with his fingers into the groin and Galvin made a meal of it by collapsing dramatically.
But it was only one of a series of unacceptable acts that McMenamin deliberately carried out throughout the course of the match and all of them seemed to have been pre-meditated.
I don't see how any one, Mickey Harte in particular, can have grounds for complaint.

Just wondered if any of the fellow self employed on the board use a fuel card?
I have been offered a couple over the past few days one from a company called Dci who are working with Topaz and the other is a company called FastFuel who are in bed with Maxol/Texaco.
Both are offering me Diesel for 87c at the moment which is good as most pumps are 97c.
Are there any catches involved with using one of these cards?

I've a buddy who sells DCI diesel and he's happy with his end of things. He has had no complaints from customers, either about quality or price and as everyone uses fuelcards, he doesn't have an attendant on duty and does not need to hold cash around the place.
It seems to be a win win situation for all concerned.

After Andy Goram returned for the Huns against the Celts when he had been diagnosed with a mild form of Schizophrenia.


"Two Andy Gorams, theres only two Andy Gorams" 

That was only a case of returning the compliment then.
About 10 years ago, Celtic signed Mark Viduka and there were problems getting him to play. The news leaked out that he was suffering from schizophrenia.
So the Huns chanted:
"Two Mark Vidukas, theres only two Mark Vidukas"

This is a bit of a side issue but its something ive been wondering about.

Ive read in a few places that for somebody in the private sector to get a pension equal to a public sector pension they would have to contribute approx 25% of there wages and work for about 45 years up to 65.

Now this is my question. If I was on say about 800 a week. I contribute 360 into a pension. If im on 42% tax, because my contribution is tax deductable this becomes 200 which is 25% of my pay.

360 x52 = 18720. per year
18720 X 45 = 842400.

If this money was kept in a low interest account all this time. It would add up to a lot more.

Are my figures totally arseways or am I missing something

Are public service pensions really worth this kinda money or where does this 25%  figure come from

On 800 a week you'd be putting in more because feck all of your waged would be at the higher rate of tax. Also you have to allow for the cost of the annuity at the end (Am I right in saying it's a years pay or some such?) plus the fact that inflation up along PLUS AFTER YOU RETIRE has to be kept pace with.

The huge anomaly with this pension is that it moves to keep pace with salary changes, which is unlike any other - essentially you are pegged to whatever your modern day equivalent earns, rather than what you earned yourself.

25% is probably fair enough - presuming the public servant retired at 65. With early retirement and buying of years etc, it's actually worth even more. Of course the unions are insistent that fair actuarial valuations of these pensions are not allowed, plus the state won't allow it either because nobody wants to open that particular can of worms.

That's a fine summation.
If I ever need the services  of a loan shark, I know where to call.

i noticed that you haven't commented on any of the league matches this year lar . Are you going to try and get to a match this year

Hi Deel, thanks for asking...
I hope to be there for the Westmeath game and we'll see after that.

Should be a good final alright, I'll be hoping for a result the otherway FL/Mayo. It must be some experience to see lads from your school bring the Hogan Cup home. Unfortunatly the closest Geralds ever got was in 97 when they got to the final and got well beaten. Geralds will have to shape up on the shooting after hitting 20 odd wides the last day out against Jarlaths. I have been told that this is the only side the school have in competition this year because of the cut backs on supplying cover for teachers, this could be the start of the end for schools football.

Nice to see you joining in.
How's the blogging getting along?

BTW; I also am bored ; after all Johnno decided not to pay a blind bit of notice to any of the solid and constructive advice I gave him last year and look where it has gotten him.
Think I'll leave him at it and we'll see how he gets on.

 Old ways are best. Lemon juice and sugar for me, same as always.

Hard luck, Treas, I have been down that road too and the experience is not a happy one. I think you have been given some very practical advice above from a good few posters and there is little need to expand on most of the points already made.
It's hard to state categorically what should be done as I don't have the facts but I'd be inclined to take the money and let the insurance crowd worry about disposing of the car.
For one thing, the second hand car market is depressed at the moment. Sooner or later, probably sooner, you will need to sell your '03 Peugeot. It will be hard enough to sell it on without any major repair work.
If it becomes known your car was a borderline write off case, you will probably be unable to give it away.
I know that's talking about something in the future but it is something to keep in mind.
On the other hand if you go scouting for a replacement, with cash in hand, you will seldom find a better time to pick and choose. That will also take care of the problem of getting your crashed car out of the way.
Deel Rover is right; the asking price for an 03 Peugeot 307 is around the 5000k mark.
Remember that that is the asking price. A cash buyer could probably get one for at least 1000k less.
BC1's advice to make sure of what you are agreeing to when they come back with an offer is sound. IMO, if you are happy that you're getting around €4,000 into your hand, I take the offer and go looking about. To my way of thinking, if you can turn what you get from the insurance into cash and wave it in some seller's face you'll get at the very least the equivalent of what you had before the accident..