Rumour is that the 1st lgue game of 2009 will be under lights in CP. Personally think it is ony that, a rumour, as afaik the Lgue fixtures have not yet been made and it may be a home fixture anyway for Tyrone. The lads on Res Dubs are discussiing it anyhow.
Croke Park marketing department are early with this one - you can buy your tickets on Ticketmaster already ! :D ;)
Good idea. Would get a serious crowd.
Has all the potential of making the Battles Of Omagh & Parnell Park look like bridge schools. Thankfully Caffrey's only involvement will be policing the Croke Park smoking ban!
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 29, 2008, 02:30:38 PM
Has all the potential of making the Battles Of Omagh & Parnell Park look like bridge schools. Thankfully Caffrey's only involvement will be policing the Croke Park smoking ban!
:D :D
I laughed when I seen him in his wee uniform in Croke Park last Sunday. It must have killed him :D :D
Seen him at the Wexford game and Final. Poor lad :D
Jaysus, the jackeens are doing some whining on reservoir dubs about Croker being a NEUTRAL venue and how they want the match at Parnell Park
When I saw Caffrey I couldn't help thinking of Chief Wiggums reaction when Homers barbershop quartet were singing on the roof of Moes Tavern.
Pillar must have felt the same looking out onto a field full of delirious Tyrone fans.
Lou: Pretty, huh Chief?
Wiggum: It sure is Lou, it sure is......................................get the tear-gas.
;D
Ach lads Pillar ain't a bad fellow. Bit of an eejit but always accepting the beating.
Quote from: orangeman on September 29, 2008, 02:07:28 PM
Croke Park marketing department are early with this one - you can buy your tickets on Ticketmaster already ! :D ;)
Great the GAA's bi-annual marketing event is in full flow.Surely they should push the league instead of just one game
Quote from: red hander on September 29, 2008, 05:05:30 PM
Jaysus, the jackeens are doing some whining on reservoir dubs about Croker being a NEUTRAL venue and how they want the match at Parnell Park
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Why should the Dublin county board accomodate the GAA marketing dept and forfeit a home league game?
The game should be between the two AI finalists for the league opener and not wheel Dublin out like a performing monkey when it needs to fill Croker.
Costello should've told them where to go..
Quote from: heffo on September 29, 2008, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on September 29, 2008, 05:05:30 PM
Jaysus, the jackeens are doing some whining on reservoir dubs about Croker being a NEUTRAL venue and how they want the match at Parnell Park
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Why should the Dublin county board accomodate the GAA marketing dept and forfeit a home league game?
The game should be between the two AI finalists for the league opener and not wheel Dublin out like a performing monkey when it needs to fill Croker.
Costello should've told them where to go..
:D :D LOL
Quote from: EC Unique on September 29, 2008, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 29, 2008, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: red hander on September 29, 2008, 05:05:30 PM
Jaysus, the jackeens are doing some whining on reservoir dubs about Croker being a NEUTRAL venue and how they want the match at Parnell Park
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Why should the Dublin county board accomodate the GAA marketing dept and forfeit a home league game?
The game should be between the two AI finalists for the league opener and not wheel Dublin out like a performing monkey when it needs to fill Croker.
Costello should've told them where to go..
:D :D LOL
A well monkey's might give us a better game.
I would be totally against this game being played outside Parnell Park.
Sounds like the Dubs are fearful of another thumping and want to minimize the glare of the national gaze.
If the Dublin lads would stop worrying about when and where games are being played and concentrated on the football they'd be far better off. They werent happy with the date for the Tyrone game this year. The Brogans said last week they preferred playing into hill 16 end. If they'd get on with the football and stop beating themselves mentally before games they'd definately be harder to beat. The goal posts are the same no matter what ground or end of ground they're at.
It would be a great idea for this game to be played under lights in Croke Park. Things like this keep our games in the public eye and create a bit of hype.
There were similar complaints from the same Dublin fans in 2007 as well.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on September 29, 2008, 06:31:30 PM
If the Dublin lads would stop worrying about when and where games are being played and concentrated on the football they'd be far better off. They werent happy with the date for the Tyrone game this year. The Brogans said last week they preferred playing into hill 16 end. If they'd get on with the football and stop beating themselves mentally before games they'd definately be harder to beat. The goal posts are the same no matter what ground or end of ground they're at.
It would be a great idea for this game to be played under lights in Croke Park. Things like this keep our games in the public eye and create a bit of hype.
We will take this as our away match in Omagh then if it is no big deal....
We got screwed over this year about the qtr-finals no matter what anyone says so why should Dublin be put out again to suit the money makers???
How'd Dublin get screwed over for the quarters? - You didn't want to share croker with anyone else on the 9th, so you had to move to the 16th. If you were that bloody good it wouldnt have mde a difference to ye.
How are you's getting screwed over? The game will still be in Dublin and it will be in the stadium you's played the majority of your matches in last year. It will also be played at the same venue as any of the real important matches you's play in next year so the experience for your players should be of benefit. I dont here you's complaining during the summer when all your matches are played in Croke Park. No other county gets the opportunity to play all there games at home. Most counties play their league games at more than 1 county ground anyway.
Quote from: On_the_Couch on September 29, 2008, 07:01:55 PM
How'd Dublin get screwed over for the quarters? - You didn't want to share croker with anyone else on the 9th, so you had to move to the 16th. If you were that bloody good it wouldnt have mde a difference to ye.
We also wanted to play on the 9th no matter what - so you saying that the extra time off between games didn't help Tyrone???
What do you reckon the attendance would be, 20,000? 30,000? Certainly wouldn't be anywhere near the last time imo, keep it in parnell, play it under lights on a saturday night, good atmosphere and hopefully the dubs come through with ease ;)
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Quote from: On_the_Couch on September 29, 2008, 07:01:55 PM
How'd Dublin get screwed over for the quarters? - You didn't want to share croker with anyone else on the 9th, so you had to move to the 16th. If you were that bloody good it wouldnt have mde a difference to ye.
We also wanted to play on the 9th no matter what - so you saying that the extra time off between games didn't help Tyrone???
God almighty wouldnt have helped you lot regardless. Are you just unhappy in general. Always moaning.
Quote from: Bogball XV on September 29, 2008, 07:11:49 PM
What do you reckon the attendance would be, 20,000? 30,000? Certainly wouldn't be anywhere near the last time imo, keep it in parnell, play it under lights on a saturday night, good atmosphere and hopefully the dubs come through with ease ;)
Id say it will get a crowd of about 70k mate. The fact that its All Ireland champions first game will ensure a big tyrone interest, added to this all the hype that surrounds a new dublin manager and there should be a big dublin interest. I would also say that it is a game that will appeal to a lot of neturals
It would get 50k +. It will be advertised flat out and will be part of the 125th anniversary celebrations. Hope it comes off.
I agree with Sam03/05 - 70k - the last occasion was great and it would be nice to see the big crowd back again and another Tyrone win !
What about the guard of honour by the Dubs for Tyrone this time?
Loads of neutrals would go to it. It would easily get 70K.
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We also wanted to play on the 9th no matter what - so you saying that the extra time off between games didn't help Tyrone???
That Tyrone team could have spent the week in Ibiza an still bate ye........
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Quote from: On_the_Couch on September 29, 2008, 07:01:55 PM
How'd Dublin get screwed over for the quarters? - You didn't want to share croker with anyone else on the 9th, so you had to move to the 16th. If you were that bloody good it wouldnt have mde a difference to ye.
We also wanted to play on the 9th no matter what - so you saying that the extra time off between games didn't help Tyrone???
That's my bloody point - you wanted croke park to
yourselves on the 9th, which meant that other teams would have had to move to suit you lot. Rightly so the GAA heirarchy moved it to suit themselves. And yes one extra week suited Tyrone, but alone it doesn't account for scale of Dublin's defeat. Your problems lay in the attitude of the Dublin team, who after hammering Wexford only talked about their date with destiny on the 3rd Sunday in September, completely ignoring the fact they had at least 2 games to play in August. It also lies in the mistaken belief that they have a good full back line, half back line, midfield, half forward line, and full forward line, when really they only have at most 1 good player in each line - not enough to win an All-Ireland with. And at that I'm not sure who the good player is in the full back and half forward lines.
the game under lights 2yrs ago was shite, if they want 70k+ to turn up Dublin and Tyrone should put out proper teams but that is not what happens in the league. Again i would rather the game was played in PP as Croker does make it a neutral venue!
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We also wanted to play on the 9th no matter what - so you saying that the extra time off between games didn't help Tyrone???
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That's my bloody point - you wanted croke park to yourselves on the 9th,
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Most Dublin fans on here, and everyone in the team set-up who expressed an opinion was in favor of keeping the game on the 9th even if that meant a double-header. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
Can't understand how CP is considered a neutral venue.. Is it not in Dublin? Will the Dubs not get all the Hill16 tickets? What are Dublin afraid of?? ::)
Quote from: Tankie on September 30, 2008, 12:49:45 AM
the game under lights 2yrs ago was shite, if they want 70k+ to turn up Dublin and Tyrone should put out proper teams but that is not what happens in the league. Again i would rather the game was played in PP as Croker does make it a neutral venue!
I would think Dublin have 2 'home' grounds.
PP if the attendance isnt going to be too big & CP if a large attendance is expected
Anyone who says different is fooling themselves
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on September 30, 2008, 03:16:47 AM
We also wanted to play on the 9th no matter what - so you saying that the extra time off between games didn't help Tyrone???
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That's my bloody point - you wanted croke park to
yourselves on the 9th,
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Most Dublin fans on here, and everyone in the team set-up who expressed an opinion was in favor of keeping the game on the 9th even if that meant a double-header. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
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Given the yapping that goes on anytime the dubs have to share croke park with anyone (or leave the leafy environs on Drumcondra), I doubt that any dub supporter or team member would wholeheartedly have endorsed sharing it with say Wexford and Armagh and taking a drop of 30-40000 tickets. But rather than take a dig at me for as you see it ranting, perhaps you and the rest of the dub supporters need to take a cold hard look at yourselves and see if sometimes your need to have overwhelming support is part of the problem, e.g. I believe that if the opposing team silences the Hill its an indication that the Dublin team are in serious trouble and 95% of the time there is no comeback for them. I also think that the dublin teams obsession with worshipping at the foot of the Hill (not quite as prevalent this year) is a problem as when Mayo got under your teams skin in 2006 - it takes from your concentration on the game. It seems to me that this year the team's obvious obsession with playing on the 9th, because they had built all their training schedules around it, was also part of your problem - an inability to adapt to circumstances as they are thrown up to you. Less worrying about where and when you play and greater concentration on playing would be a good start for you for next year. So if Croke Park at the end of January is deemed to be time and the place to meet Tyrone, then just bloody well look forward to it and enjoy the occasion - I know I will.
Quote from: EC Unique on September 30, 2008, 09:37:40 AM
Can't understand how CP is considered a neutral venue.
It is a neutral venue. Dublin County Board have no control over it whatsoever. They can't use it for training or for League/O'Byrne cup games or for club games. Parnell Park is Dublin's home ground. Rant away all ye want but that's the situation.
I think a high profile game to open the League is a good idea, but why not Tyrone and Kerry? As your all so confident of Tyrone hammering Dublin again, how is that promoting the NFL?
Quote from: dubinhell on September 30, 2008, 10:32:23 AM
I think a high profile game to open the League is a good idea, but why not Tyrone and Kerry?
Dubs 'afraid' of Tyrone shocker :o
Quote from: Tankie on September 30, 2008, 12:49:45 AM
the game under lights 2yrs ago was shite, if they want 70k+ to turn up Dublin and Tyrone should put out proper teams but that is not what happens in the league. Again i would rather the game was played in PP as Croker does make it a neutral venue!
Thought it was a good game. Great second half from Tyrone. Conor Gormley went onto Brogan and that was it. Remember in particular Colm Cavanagh , his debut in the senior ranks ( i think) who had a paricularly good game.
I would have thought the Dubs would want a good game in Croke Park to banish the scars from the scale of the defeat in the quarter final.
Can see the merits in playing this fixture in CP only and I repeat only if Dublin County Board get a lions share of the gate proceeds and not if the gate proceeds are pooled with the whole NFL. A selfish view I know, but a reasonable one also imo.
Personally also think Parnell Park is too tight a pitch which leaves us somewhat unprepared for CP come championship time.
Would like to see how our new team (and it will be a new team) will do against what would seem to be the best Gaelic Football of all time!!!!!!!!!!
Also, I think the DCB need to use this game as a marketing tool in the ever biitter competition for the affection of the kids in Dublin against the very well funded FAI/IRFU. I know alot of the Dublin fans will disagree with me but I think the future should be looked after also.
There might be alot of people dancing on our grave at the moment but I still think that Dublin GAA has alot to be proud of.
By the way, if the tickets are reasonably priced it will be a sell out.
Quote from: full back on September 30, 2008, 09:56:36 AM
Quote from: Tankie on September 30, 2008, 12:49:45 AM
the game under lights 2yrs ago was shite, if they want 70k+ to turn up Dublin and Tyrone should put out proper teams but that is not what happens in the league. Again i would rather the game was played in PP as Croker does make it a neutral venue!
I would think Dublin have 2 'home' grounds.
PP if the attendance isnt going to be too big & CP if a large attendance is expected
Anyone who says different is fooling themselves
If a Dub suggests Croker is their home queue 200 pages of outrage , when it suits others its Dublin's home ground . f**king typical
If it's a league game is played within your county's border it's a home game. Neutral would mean outside your county's border. How can anyone argue otherwise?
That would be like Tipperary arguing that Semple is not a home draw, Antrim arguing agsint Casement or Monaghan against Clones.
Quote from: Main Street on September 29, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
What about the guard of honour by the Dubs for Tyrone this time?
As long as Dublin get a call this time, they'll be out.
Tyrone officials were too busy turning off the hot water and locking dressing rooms the last time in Omagh to bother calling Dublin for the guard of honour..
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: Main Street on September 29, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
What about the guard of honour by the Dubs for Tyrone this time?
As long as Dublin get a call this time, they'll be out.
Tyrone officials were too busy turning off the hot water and locking dressing rooms the last time in Omagh to bother calling Dublin for the guard of honour..
So they were locking the dressing rooms with the dublin team still in it ? :o :o
Quote from: Bensars on September 30, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: Main Street on September 29, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
What about the guard of honour by the Dubs for Tyrone this time?
As long as Dublin get a call this time, they'll be out.
Tyrone officials were too busy turning off the hot water and locking dressing rooms the last time in Omagh to bother calling Dublin for the guard of honour..
Couldn't get them out ... they were all reading some engrossing book about how brilliant they were...
So they were locking the dressing rooms with the dublin team still in it ? :o :o
Quote from: Bensars on September 30, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: Main Street on September 29, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
What about the guard of honour by the Dubs for Tyrone this time?
As long as Dublin get a call this time, they'll be out.
Tyrone officials were too busy turning off the hot water and locking dressing rooms the last time in Omagh to bother calling Dublin for the guard of honour..
So they were locking the dressing rooms with the dublin team still in it ? :o :o
I never said that - I didn't bring the guard of honour issue up, but I've posted on Tyrone's pre-match acting the maggot in Healy park before..
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:46:12 AM
If a Dub suggests Croker is their home queue 200 pages of outrage , when it suits others its Dublin's home ground . f**king typical
How incredulous
CP is widely & correctly seen as Dublin's home ground ???
Take one example, who gets 'all' the tickets for the Hill when Dublin play? Why?
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 30, 2008, 11:55:02 AM
If it's a league game is played within your county's border it's a home game. Neutral would mean outside your county's border. How can anyone argue otherwise?
By that definition. yes.
But then that would make Antrim's home ground Windsor Park or Limerick's Thomond Park. Dublin County board have no more say in the running of Croker than IRFU or FAI
QuoteBut then that would make Antrim's home ground Windsor Park or Limerick's Thomond Park. Dublin County board have no more say in the running of Croker than IRFU or FAI
Except Windsor Park & Thomand Park are not GAA Stadia. Just a small difference! :P
Quote from: full back on September 30, 2008, 12:29:18 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:46:12 AM
If a Dub suggests Croker is their home queue 200 pages of outrage , when it suits others its Dublin's home ground . f**king typical
How incredulous
CP is widely & correctly seen as Dublin's home ground ???
Take one example, who gets 'all' the tickets for the Hill when Dublin play? Why?
The competing counties get them ,they are often
a) rejected straight away by the county board
b) returned by the county board
c) swapped by fans
PP is Dublin's home ground
Quote from: full back on September 30, 2008, 12:29:18 PM
CP is widely & correctly seen as Dublin's home ground ???
Take one example, who gets 'all' the tickets for the Hill when Dublin play? Why?
Gnevin has a point, if the Dubs suggested Croke park was their home pitch there would be multiple posts on here giving out about their arrogance. You cant have it both ways.
Officially Croke park is not owned by the Dublin county board and the Dublin county board have no control over what and who plays there. how you can call that their home ground is beyond me.
Your suggestion about the hill is just plain stupid. You know as well as I do that any competing county is entitled to apply for hill tickets. The truth is, and you know this, that the tickets arent sold only to Dublin fans, but its the Dublin fans who buy them all.
Any county who wants hill tickets when playing Dublin has got them in previous games.
So dont be talking shite.
Back on topic, given the margin of victory in the quarter final, it will be a real challenge to promote this game. I cant see the same crowds as before. But while I do think its slightly unfair that Dublin be made to play outside their own ground for home league games when the GAA wants some cash, I'd be happy enough to concede that if the game is promoted enough to draw in a few curious outsiders.
Whilst Full Back is technically incorrect in saying that CP is Dublin's official home ground for league games, it is ludicrous to suggest that CP is a neutral venue.
Alright holy man, calm the fcuk down...do you want a hand down off that high horse
If not technically correct, CP can be widely regarded as Dublins home ground. Anyone that says it is a neutral ground is full of sh1t
Quote from: full back on September 30, 2008, 01:42:02 PM
Alright holy man, calm the fcuk down...do you want a hand down off that high horse
If not technically correct, CP can be widely regarded as Dublins home ground. Anyone that says it is a neutral ground is full of sh1t
I'm perfectly calm.
To be honest Full Back, I dont give a shite if its regarded as Dublins home ground or not.
But the reaction to that suggestion is totally different depending on who suggests it, if you know what I mean.
Will you at least concede that you know fine well other counties can get hill tickets for Dublin games IF they wanted them?
Quote from: his holiness nb on September 30, 2008, 01:47:42 PM
Will you at least concede that you know fine well other counties can get hill tickets for Dublin games IF they wanted them?
It was a sh1tty point I made so if you are correcting me fair & well.
The view is far better off that horse anyway ;)
Quote from: full back on September 30, 2008, 01:56:57 PM
It was a sh1tty point I made so if you are correcting me fair & well.
The view is far better off that horse anyway ;)
No high horse, just a few facts ;)
Seriously though, given the bating tyrone just gave us, how are they going to drum up enough interest to justify playing in CP?
If they can pull it off, fair play to them and I'll be there, but cant see it being done.
Perhaps they could convince Micky to drop Tyrone and come manage Dublin, just to get some hype for the game of course, for the good of the GAA ;)
What size of a crowd would pp hold?
Quote from: EC Unique on September 30, 2008, 02:01:14 PM
What size of a crowd would pp hold?
I'm crap at guessing crowd sizes but wouldnt say any more than 8-10 thousand. Maybe slightly more or less.
Thought I heard 13k before
Quote from: EC Unique on September 30, 2008, 02:01:14 PM
What size of a crowd would pp hold?
12,500 is the biggest crowd i've ever seen in pp and they was very tight
I'd rather get the shit kicked out of me in Croke Park rather than Parnell Park - at least there'd be a bit of comfort and a warm cup of tea afterwards plus it's closer to the nearest hospital ! ;) :D
Sorry - I forgot - Pillar is gone !
QuoteI'd rather get the shit kicked out of me in Croke Park rather than Parnell Park - at least there'd be a bit of comfort and a warm cup of tea afterwards plus it's closer to the nearest hospital !
We headed down in 2003 and welcome we got as AI champs from the so-called Dubs fans in the cage behind the goals was less than welcoming. I'd expect that this year it would be even less so.
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 30, 2008, 03:09:23 PM
QuoteI'd rather get the shit kicked out of me in Croke Park rather than Parnell Park - at least there'd be a bit of comfort and a warm cup of tea afterwards plus it's closer to the nearest hospital !
We headed down in 2003 and welcome we got as AI champs from the so-called Dubs fans in the cage behind the goals was less than welcoming. I'd expect that this year it would be even less so.
I thought Armagh were AI champions when we played Tyrone in 2003?
Perhaps the Dubs fans took their lead from the reception afforded Dublin by the Tyrone 'fans' in Healy park - lovely bunch all round..
Westmeath played Roscommon in Kiltoom this year, are the MOPErs trying to say that we didn't beat them on their own turf???
And if yous are worried about playing an "away" game in Croke Park, have three in Parnell, three outside the Pale and one in neutral Croke Park to even it up, not exactly rocket science.
To quote Richard Prior "Have a coke and a smile and shut the fcuk up"
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 30, 2008, 03:37:30 PM
And if yous are worried about playing an "away" game in Croke Park, have three in Parnell, three outside the Pale and one in neutral Croke Park to even it up, not exactly rocket science.
Who's worried? Aside from posters outside of Dublin saying it's a 'good idea' in general terms, why should Dublin accomodate the GAA and play a league outside of Parnell park?
Why isn't the showpiece game of the NFL involving the two AI finalists?
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on September 30, 2008, 02:01:14 PM
What size of a crowd would pp hold?
12,500 is the biggest crowd i've ever seen in pp and they was very tight
If this is the case then this is a no brainer. It must be played in CP. As far as I know the GAA need at least 30k to pay for operating costs. I would guess that at least 55k would go to this game so why even suggest a ground that is stuffed at 12500?
Dublin fans should try to put the Q-final match behind them. It will never be as bad as that again and as someone already said, who knows what sort of teams would field. If this happens we should all be glad to get a chance to experience the CP atmosphere in Feb as you never know when you will be back!!
Quote from: EC Unique on September 30, 2008, 03:45:21 PM
If this happens we should all be glad to get a chance to experience the CP atmosphere in Feb as you never know when you will be back!!
The Dubs will be back as soon as they get a home game in the C'ship ;)
QuotePerhaps the Dubs fans took their lead from the reception afforded Dublin by the Tyrone 'fans' in Healy park - lovely bunch all round..
I was behind goals with some Dub friends and you were afforded a superb welcome at Healy Park and the mood was very jovial. Obviously words started being exchanged when the fight broke out but thats to be expected at any game. I'm referring to the welcome in Parnell Park before the ball was even thrown in! Tasty boys alright.
Maybe I missed it in the earlier posts, but has it even been confirmed yet that Dublin would be the home team in the fixture?
What if Tyrone are the home team and it is moved to Croke Park?
I thought the fixtures hadn't been done for the league yet.
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 30, 2008, 03:55:48 PM
QuotePerhaps the Dubs fans took their lead from the reception afforded Dublin by the Tyrone 'fans' in Healy park - lovely bunch all round..
I was behind goals with some Dub friends and you were afforded a superb welcome at Healy Park and the mood was very jovial. Obviously words started being exchanged when the fight broke out but thats to be expected at any game. I'm referring to the welcome in Parnell Park before the ball was even thrown in! Tasty boys alright.
The year before that there was as nasty an atmosphere at a game as I've ever experienced - 2006 in Healy park saw a 'tasty' welcome for the Dubs from the main stand. Perhaps all the gentlemen Tyrone fans congregate where you stand..
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 30, 2008, 03:55:48 PM
I was behind goals with some Dub friends and you were afforded a superb welcome at Healy Park and the mood was very jovial. Obviously words started being exchanged when the fight broke out but thats to be expected at any game. I'm referring to the welcome in Parnell Park before the ball was even thrown in! Tasty boys alright.
Maybe I'm getting my years mixed up but are we referring to the poxily named "battle of omagh" here?
I was at that game and the Dubs were booed ONTO the field in Omagh that day by a very large portion of the crowd. Again, before the ball was thrown in.
There are some scumbags behind the goals in Parnell, I dont go there for that reason, but lets not go pretending we are the only ones with these idiots.
The main reason most of the Dubs fans on here and on Res. Dogs are complaining is a simple fact that every year Dubs fans get the usual shit of been just a bunch of band wagoners, yet when it comes to money time and CP needs filling, then everyone comes looking for the Dubs.
So it can't swing both ways.
Also it did not go down well in Dublin when Brennan complained about the Dubs invading the pitch after a Leinster final win a few years ago but never any other county.
So I have no issue with the match in CP but come summer time lets here no bitching about the fact the Dubs play all matches in Croker and the size of the ticket allocation.
QuoteI was at that game and the Dubs were booed ONTO the field in Omagh that day by a very large portion of the crowd. Again, before the ball was thrown in.
The sporadic boos were for Dublin's refusal to provide a guard of honour to their vanquishers & AI Champions. Pat D'arcy was also annoyed to learn that they didn't wipe their feet before getting off the team bus.
Can definitely say that the game in Healy Park (the year before the "Battle of Omagh") was the most poisonous game I ever attended. My sister was shoulder charged by a Tyrone "fan" as we left the main stand at the end of the game and the abuse directed at Mickey Harte and his family by some Tyrone "fans" was obnoxious.
For those of you who were there you will no doubt recollect that it was freezing cold that day and that Mulligan scored a great goal into the Town End.
As much as I wanted Tyrone to win this year I am still bitter to think that this Section of Tyrone "support" were in all likelihood backslapping MH after the AIF.......hypocrites one and all.
I may be mistaken but I am almost sure that there was a huge cheer when Mickey Harte's son was substituted that day.......I cannot however be positive that the poor lad was in fact his son.
One other thing I remember from the trip was the sight of what looked the most soulless kip of a housing estate near the grounds ......to the left of HP as you walked towards town away from HP......there was a pub across the road down a bit.
A real eyeopener of a day for me.
Quote from: Canalman on September 30, 2008, 04:49:35 PM
Can definitely say that the game in Healy Park (the year before the "Battle of Omagh") was the most poisonous game I ever attended. My sister was shoulder charged by a Tyrone "fan" as we left the main stand at the end of the game and the abuse directed at Mickey Harte and his family by some Tyrone "fans" was obnoxious.
For those of you who were there you will no doubt recollect that it was freezing cold that day and that Mulligan scored a great goal into the Town End.
As much as I wanted Tyrone to win this year I am still bitter to think that this Section of Tyrone "support" were in all likelihood backslapping MH after the AIF.......hypocrites one and all.
I may be mistaken but I am almost sure that there was a huge cheer when Mickey Harte's son was substituted that day.......I cannot however be positive that the poor lad was in fact his son.
One other thing I remember from the trip was the sight of what looked the most soulless kip of a housing estate near the grounds ......to the left of HP as you walked towards town away from HP......there was a pub across the road down a bit.
A real eyeopener of a day for me.
Lads let's not cast any brickbats in the direction of housing estates in Omagh or anywhere else - I'm sure Dublin has nothing like what you described in Omagh !
So back to this proposed league game please and if you want to talk about the battle of Omagh, please continue you it on the Battle of omagh thread started in 2006 !!!
Will this game go ahead in Croke Park do you think ?
It was a great game the last night - and a brilliant atmosphere etc etc.
QuoteWill this game go ahead in Croke Park do you think ?
Do bears sh*t in the woods?
Don't you think that following a season of low attendances in Croker the GAA won't want to cash in on an almost certain full-house in mid-winter?
Quote from: orangeman on September 30, 2008, 04:56:15 PM
Quote from: Canalman on September 30, 2008, 04:49:35 PM
Can definitely say that the game in Healy Park (the year before the "Battle of Omagh") was the most poisonous game I ever attended. My sister was shoulder charged by a Tyrone "fan" as we left the main stand at the end of the game and the abuse directed at Mickey Harte and his family by some Tyrone "fans" was obnoxious.
For those of you who were there you will no doubt recollect that it was freezing cold that day and that Mulligan scored a great goal into the Town End.
As much as I wanted Tyrone to win this year I am still bitter to think that this Section of Tyrone "support" were in all likelihood backslapping MH after the AIF.......hypocrites one and all.
I may be mistaken but I am almost sure that there was a huge cheer when Mickey Harte's son was substituted that day.......I cannot however be positive that the poor lad was in fact his son.
One other thing I remember from the trip was the sight of what looked the most soulless kip of a housing estate near the grounds ......to the left of HP as you walked towards town away from HP......there was a pub across the road down a bit.
A real eyeopener of a day for me.
Put a sock in it OJ!
Lads let's not cast any brickbats in the direction of housing estates in Omagh or anywhere else - I'm sure Dublin has nothing like what you described in Omagh !
So back to this proposed league game please and if you want to talk about the battle of Omagh, please continue you it on the Battle of omagh thread started in 2006 !!!
Will this game go ahead in Croke Park do you think ?
It was a great game the last night - and a brilliant atmosphere etc etc.
Eh Orangeman, a bit late for you to say "So back to this proposed league game" after your earlier cheap shot at Paul Caffrey.Talk about putting the boot in when a man is down. Most Dub posters here are of the reactive type who imo legitimately rebut the continuous abuse thrown at Dublin.
Was talking about the 2005 lgue game by the way.
not going to get involved in this daft row.
Just want to say that there have been some cracking comments in this thread and I am laughing my fat erse off.
If the game is in croker, I'll def go to it.
Prob wouldnt if it was in parnell.
QuoteThe sporadic boos were for Dublin's refusal to provide a guard of honour to their vanquishers & AI Champions.
A little ironic for a Tyrone crowd to be booing a team for this reason I would have thought.
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 03:42:29 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 30, 2008, 03:37:30 PM
And if yous are worried about playing an "away" game in Croke Park, have three in Parnell, three outside the Pale and one in neutral Croke Park to even it up, not exactly rocket science.
Who's worried? Aside from posters outside of Dublin saying it's a 'good idea' in general terms, why should Dublin accomodate the GAA and play a league outside of Parnell park?
Why isn't the showpiece game of the NFL involving the two AI finalists?
Doh!!!!!!!!, maybe because "Dublin" is part of the GAA. Its not as if the money lifted doesn't go back into the grassroots.
Quote from: On_the_Couch on September 30, 2008, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 03:42:29 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 30, 2008, 03:37:30 PM
And if yous are worried about playing an "away" game in Croke Park, have three in Parnell, three outside the Pale and one in neutral Croke Park to even it up, not exactly rocket science.
Who's worried? Aside from posters outside of Dublin saying it's a 'good idea' in general terms, why should Dublin accomodate the GAA and play a league outside of Parnell park?
Why isn't the showpiece game of the NFL involving the two AI finalists?
Doh!!!!!!!!, maybe because "Dublin" is part of the GAA. Its not as if the money lifted doesn't go back into the grassroots.
Ok, so I'll ask the same question again - I've yet to hear a single reason why Dublin should accomodate the GAA with this..
major reason is that parnell park only holds 13,000 or whatever it is.
How many Dublin fans attended the Leinster final and Quarter final. If for no other reason other than accomodating the massive Dublin support.
Otherwise you might'nt be able to get a ticket Heffo. Now im sure you'd like to see Dublin playing the All Ireland Champions again
Quote from: Bensars on September 30, 2008, 10:00:40 PM
major reason is that parnell park only holds 13,000 or whatever it is.
How many Dublin fans attended the Leinster final and Quarter final. If for no other reason other than accomodating the massive Dublin support.
Otherwise you might'nt be able to get a ticket Heffo. Now im sure you'd like to see Dublin playing the All Ireland Champions again
Compare the amount of Tyrone 'fans' in Healy park (you should be able to count them on two hands) for the Westmeath game and for the AI final (or Leinster final)
Demand for league games never exceeds supply - no reason for Dublin to be involved in an NFL game in Croker..
Ps - I'd never be without a ticket for a Dublin game regardless of venue..
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: Bensars on September 30, 2008, 10:00:40 PM
major reason is that parnell park only holds 13,000 or whatever it is.
How many Dublin fans attended the Leinster final and Quarter final. If for no other reason other than accomodating the massive Dublin support.
Otherwise you might'nt be able to get a ticket Heffo. Now im sure you'd like to see Dublin playing the All Ireland Champions again
Compare the amount of Tyrone 'fans' in Healy park (you should be able to count them on two hands) for the Westmeath game and for the AI final (or Leinster final)
Demand for league games never exceeds supply - no reason for Dublin to be involved in an NFL game in Croker..
Ps - I'd never be without a ticket for a Dublin game regardless of venue..
heffo, since when do dublin have a problem playing in croke park?
Since they copped on to the fact that they haven't the knackers to play decent sides in front of their own supporters
Edited by Mod3. Cop on O'Neill.
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 10:17:30 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: Bensars on September 30, 2008, 10:00:40 PM
major reason is that parnell park only holds 13,000 or whatever it is.
How many Dublin fans attended the Leinster final and Quarter final. If for no other reason other than accomodating the massive Dublin support.
Otherwise you might'nt be able to get a ticket Heffo. Now im sure you'd like to see Dublin playing the All Ireland Champions again
Compare the amount of Tyrone 'fans' in Healy park (you should be able to count them on two hands) for the Westmeath game and for the AI final (or Leinster final)
Demand for league games never exceeds supply - no reason for Dublin to be involved in an NFL game in Croker..
Ps - I'd never be without a ticket for a Dublin game regardless of venue..
heffo, since when do dublin have a problem playing in croke park?
Again clouding the issue - why isn't this game involving the two AI finalists? Why should Dublin play a league game away from their home ground?
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:20:52 PM
Again clouding the issue - why isn't this game involving the two AI finalists? Why should Dublin play a league game away from their home ground?
parnell park is a dump, croke park isnt. it would also draw a huge crowd..
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:20:52 PM
Again clouding the issue - why isn't this game involving the two AI finalists? Why should Dublin play a league game away from their home ground?
parnell park is a dump, croke park isnt. it would also draw a huge crowd..
So why don't your lot jump on the train and enjoy a nice day out in the "big smoke"
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:20:52 PM
Again clouding the issue - why isn't this game involving the two AI finalists? Why should Dublin play a league game away from their home ground?
parnell park is a dump, croke park isnt. it would also draw a huge crowd..
Parnell park isn't a dump - it's a fine ground more than capable of sating the demand for tickets.
It may well draw a huge crowd, but what's that got to do with Dublin playing a designated home league game away from Parnell park?
Again, why aren't the two AI finalists playing this game?
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:31:46 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:20:52 PM
Again clouding the issue - why isn't this game involving the two AI finalists? Why should Dublin play a league game away from their home ground?
parnell park is a dump, croke park isnt. it would also draw a huge crowd..
Parnell park isn't a dump - it's a fine ground more than capable of sating the demand for tickets.
It may well draw a huge crowd, but what's that got to do with Dublin playing a designated home league game away from Parnell park?
Again, why aren't the two AI finalists playing this game?
Why not Kerry and Galway? Finalist V defeated quarter finalist and was a far better game
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:31:46 PM
Again, why aren't the two AI finalists playing this game?
no idea, wouldnt have a problem if they were. but if it were kerry v tyrone it wouldnt be played in dublin. now dont tell me you dont see the logic of playing dublin v tyrone in cp.
Magic there is no pleasing them . This thread will be 60 pages plus by the end of October . Thousand of Kids in Dublin could get a trip to Croker to take their young minds off the premiership and Rugby to folllow their boys in blue .
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 10:33:45 PM
Why not Kerry and Galway? Finalist V defeated quarter finalist and was a far better game
are you saying play kerry v galway in cp gnevin?
Quote from: johnpower on September 30, 2008, 10:38:02 PM
Magic there is no pleasing them . This thread will be 60 pages plus by the end of October . Thousand of Kids in Dublin could get a trip to Croker to take their young minds off the premiership and Rugby to folllow their boys in blue .
Alternatively we could've had Kerry v Tyrone and could have had the usual couple of hundred of Kerry 'fans' getting distracted from bothering their cousin and travelling to Croke park for a match.
Why would the launch of the NFL between the two Div 1 AI finalists not have been held in Croke park btw?
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:41:09 PM
Quote from: johnpower on September 30, 2008, 10:38:02 PM
Magic there is no pleasing them . This thread will be 60 pages plus by the end of October . Thousand of Kids in Dublin could get a trip to Croker to take their young minds off the premiership and Rugby to folllow their boys in blue .
Alternatively we could've had Kerry v Tyrone and could have had the usual couple of hundred of Kerry 'fans' getting distracted from bothering their cousin and travelling to Croke park for a match.
Why would the launch of the NFL between the two Div 1 AI finalists not have been held in Croke park btw?
I think you guys are scared or just too lazy to get out in the Cold .
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 10:33:45 PM
Why not Kerry and Galway? Finalist V defeated quarter finalist and was a far better game
are you saying play kerry v galway in cp gnevin?
Why not make same amount of sense as Dublin V Tyrone, getting back to the point.
What good will one promotional blow out do ? Why not arrange a series of provincial double headers ? Double up some football and hurling games ?
Quote from: johnpower on September 30, 2008, 10:38:02 PM
Magic there is no pleasing them . This thread will be 60 pages plus by the end of October . Thousand of Kids in Dublin could get a trip to Croker to take their young minds off the premiership and Rugby to folllow their boys in blue .
Thousands of kids know where Parnell Park is having 1 game under lights every 2 years isn't going to convert many kids now is it?
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:41:09 PM
Why would the launch of the NFL between the two Div 1 AI finalists not have been held in Croke park btw?
because we saw enough of the fockin place during the summer
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 10:38:52 PM
are you saying play kerry v galway in cp gnevin?
Why not make same amount of sense as Dublin V Tyrone, getting back to the point.
What good will one promotional blow out do ? Why not arrange a series of provincial double headers ? Double up some football and hurling games ?
course it does, ye boys are just playing dumb cop and dumber cop
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:41:09 PM
Why would the launch of the NFL between the two Div 1 AI finalists not have been held in Croke park btw?
because we saw enough of the fockin place during the summer
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Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 10:38:52 PM
are you saying play kerry v galway in cp gnevin?
Why not make same amount of sense as Dublin V Tyrone, getting back to the point.
What good will one promotional blow out do ? Why not arrange a series of provincial double headers ? Double up some football and hurling games ?
course it does, ye boys are just playing dumb cop and dumber cop
And you'd have no problem with Kerry playing a home game against Mayo in the Gaelic Grounds right?
Can you please answer what good will one promotional blow out do ?
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 10:57:34 PM
And you'd have no problem with Kerry playing a home game against Mayo in the Gaelic Grounds right?
Can you please answer what good will one promotional blow out do ?
the gaelic grounds are in limerick, cp is in dublin. kerry play home games in two grounds, tralees austin stacks pk and killarneys fitzgerald stadium. its not that hard..
every promotional blow out is worth it, the more the better. i bet that plenty of people have great memories of the tyrone v dublin league game in cp
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 11:04:37 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 10:57:34 PM
And you'd have no problem with Kerry playing a home game against Mayo in the Gaelic Grounds right?
Can you please answer what good will one promotional blow out do ?
the gaelic grounds are in limerick, cp is in dublin. kerry play home games in two grounds, tralees austin stacks pk and killarneys fitzgerald stadium. its not that hard..
every promotional blow out is worth it, the more the better. i bet that plenty of people have great memories of the tyrone v dublin league game in cp
So that's a no then? So it's only the preforming chimps in the capital that should play at a neutral venue when the GAA wants to "promote" the league . This is about money and nothing more. Their are better ways to promote our games a few of which i suggested above .
How about this let this game count as one of Tyrone's home games and Dublin will play where ever and when ever the GAA see fit?
Quote from: heffo on September 30, 2008, 10:41:09 PMthe usual couple of hundred of Kerry 'fans' getting distracted from bothering their cousin
Keep them coming :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:10:45 PMSo it's only the preforming chimps in the capital
Well - the chimps might put in a better effort than the boy in blue did that day back in August
QuoteThe Gaelic grounds are in Limerick
A venue inside a county in a whole other prospect than one half way between the participants, even if it is not a strictly a county's home venue. Dublin have been the victims of a dog in the manger attitude to venues in the past, they should not do likewise themselves.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 30, 2008, 11:14:37 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:10:45 PMSo it's only the preforming chimps in the capital
Well - the chimps might put in a better effort than the boy in blue did that day back in August
So are the Tyrone CB and fans willing to give up a home game "for the good of the gaa". Go on sure it will keep us Jackeens happy
;)
Quote from: armaghniac on September 30, 2008, 11:15:46 PM
QuoteThe Gaelic grounds are in Limerick
A venue inside a county in a whole other prospect than one half way between the participants, even if it is not a strictly a county's home venue. Dublin have been the victims of a dog in the manger attitude to venues in the past, they should not do likewise themselves.
Why ?
Kerry have the same access to it as Dublin have to Croke park , You can get to it quicker from some parts of Kerry than you can get to Croker from some parts of Dublin ?
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:17:33 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 30, 2008, 11:14:37 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:10:45 PMSo it's only the preforming chimps in the capital
Well - the chimps might put in a better effort than the boy in blue did that day back in August
So are the Tyrone CB and fans willing to give up a home game "for the good of the gaa". Go on sure it will keep us Jackeens happy
;)
If they want to hold the game in Greencastle for the good of the game, I'd be up for that.
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:10:45 PM
So that's a no then? So it's only the preforming chimps in the capital that should play at a neutral venue when the GAA wants to "promote" the league . This is about money and nothing more. Their are better ways to promote our games a few of which i suggested above .
How about this let this game count as one of Tyrone's home games and Dublin will play where ever and when ever the GAA see fit?
theres plenty fockin monkeys there thats for sure :D
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:19:56 PM
Why ?
Kerry have the same access to it as Dublin have to Croke park , You can get to it quicker from some parts of Kerry than you can get to Croker from some parts of Dublin ?
i give up ???
The GAA have BALLSED UP already.. they are putting this on at half-seven on the Saturday - and hear this - it will clash with Antrim Wicklow at Casement Park .. SEEMS TO ME THAT IT COULD BE A BIG FECK UP!.. Heads will roll .. :P
Quote from: magickingdom on September 30, 2008, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:10:45 PM
So that's a no then? So it's only the preforming chimps in the capital that should play at a neutral venue when the GAA wants to "promote" the league . This is about money and nothing more. Their are better ways to promote our games a few of which i suggested above .
How about this let this game count as one of Tyrone's home games and Dublin will play where ever and when ever the GAA see fit?
theres plenty fockin monkeys there thats for sure :D
Quote from: Gnevin on September 30, 2008, 11:19:56 PM
Why ?
Kerry have the same access to it as Dublin have to Croke park , You can get to it quicker from some parts of Kerry than you can get to Croker from some parts of Dublin ?
i give up ???
You saying you can't get from parts of Kerry to Limerick city in less than 2 hours ?
it wont be played during rush hour....
The only way i would be in favour of this game being played in Croke Park is if the Dublin county board get to keep the money made from the game to invest in the DCB projects!
I've no problems with that Tankie.
Dublin should be better off money wise if this is in Croke park as a cut of 70000 would be better than most of 12500 would it not? Other than 'why should we please the GAA' have Dublin any other reason not to play in Croke park? I think they are shit scared of another kicking in front of the whole Country :D :D
Quote from: EC Unique on October 01, 2008, 09:46:08 AM
Dublin should be better off money wise if this is in Croke park as a cut of 70000 would be better than most of 12500 would it not? Other than 'why should we please the GAA' have Dublin any other reason not to play in Croke park? I think they are shit scared of another kicking in front of the whole Country :D :D
It's Tyrone who should be scared !!!!!!!!!!
Nail on head EC.
Most league receipts are divided up among the teams, do DCB would be better off by having it in Croke Pk, funds that could be useful.
So I see no one from Tyrone has offer up a home game
Quote from: Gnevin on October 01, 2008, 11:07:32 AM
So I see no one from Tyrone has offer up a home game
Maybe they would if there was an 80k stadium in the county. ::)
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 11:09:34 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 01, 2008, 11:07:32 AM
So I see no one from Tyrone has offer up a home game
Maybe they would if there was an 80k stadium in the county. ::)
Awe so following that logic only Dublin will ever be forced to give up a home game . ::)
Quote from: Gnevin on October 01, 2008, 11:30:53 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 11:09:34 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 01, 2008, 11:07:32 AM
So I see no one from Tyrone has offer up a home game
Maybe they would if there was an 80k stadium in the county. ::)
Awe so following that logic only Dublin will ever be forced to give up a home game .
Jaysus, you have it tough, all your championship games played within your county, all that population to draw on, the vast majority of the supporters "supporting" you and still all this bleating. Now if only yous had some bottle ;D
Would you ever give over about this home game crap. Dublin will play the game in Dublin. Dublin will be make more money if it is in Croke park. Dublin will be able to offer more tickets to thier home support if it is in Croke Park. WTF is the problem??? >:( Get over the Q-final. :'( That will never happen again ::)
Quote from: EC Unique on October 01, 2008, 11:40:19 AM
Would you ever give over about this home game crap. Dublin will play the game in Dublin. Dublin will be make more money if it is in Croke park. Dublin will be able to offer more tickets to thier home support if it is in Croke Park. WTF is the problem??? >:( Get over the Q-final. :'( That will never happen again ::)
This is nothing to do with the Q-final ::) . Home advantage is a well documented advantage in sport. Why should Dublin give it up all the time? Why can't Tyrone offer up a home game for "the good of the gaa" .
Quote from: Gnevin on October 01, 2008, 11:53:20 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 01, 2008, 11:40:19 AM
Would you ever give over about this home game crap. Dublin will play the game in Dublin. Dublin will be make more money if it is in Croke park. Dublin will be able to offer more tickets to thier home support if it is in Croke Park. WTF is the problem??? >:( Get over the Q-final. :'( That will never happen again ::)
This is nothing to do with the Q-final ::) . Home advantage is a well documented advantage in sport. Why should Dublin give it up all the time? Why can't Tyrone offer up a home game for "the good of the gaa" .
If Tyrone were asked to go and Play in our HQ in front of a full house or near full house instead of Omagh - I would be in favour of it.
Quote from: EC Unique on October 01, 2008, 12:16:42 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 01, 2008, 11:53:20 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 01, 2008, 11:40:19 AM
Would you ever give over about this home game crap. Dublin will play the game in Dublin. Dublin will be make more money if it is in Croke park. Dublin will be able to offer more tickets to thier home support if it is in Croke Park. WTF is the problem??? >:( Get over the Q-final. :'( That will never happen again ::)
This is nothing to do with the Q-final ::) . Home advantage is a well documented advantage in sport. Why should Dublin give it up all the time? Why can't Tyrone offer up a home game for "the good of the gaa" .
If Tyrone were asked to go and Play in our HQ in front of a full house or near full house instead of Omagh - I would be in favour of it.
So put a motion to the CB that they request a home game against Dublin in Croke Park.
Gnevin you are being silly now. Why dont you put a motion in that the Dubs dont play league games in CP?
See, silly.
All the childish Dubs versus the world jibes aside, before we go slagging off the Dubs for not wanting to play the game in croker, lets make sure its actually true.
Posters on here do not speak for the players or the management, who had no issues the previous 2 times in recent years when they were asked to play home league games in Croke park.
And Heffo, if you are waiting for anyone to answer your post to say its Dublin being asked because they are the only county the GAA can depend on to fill the stadium at that time of year, you will have a long wait.
Completely different matter if the Dublin management didn't want to play there but in my eyes it'd only be of benefit to them since summer is what it's all about and the more experience the better. Think people's disbelief is at the res dub crowd and their representatives over here, 31 against 1 and all that rubbish. Jaysus, I remember the time when u could have great craic with the Dubs, now all u seem to run into are the dayouters and de ones with the chips on their shoulders...
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 01:53:19 PM
Completely different matter if the Dublin management didn't want to play there but in my eyes it'd only be of benefit to them since summer is what it's all about and the more experience the better. Think people's disbelief is at the res dub crowd and their representatives over here, 31 against 1 and all that rubbish. Jaysus, I remember the time when u could have great craic with the Dubs, now all u seem to run into are the dayouters and de ones with the chips on their shoulders...
::)
I can't understand why Dublin would lose any advantage in having the game at CP. Yes, more Tyrone fans may get tickets, but there will still be a significant Dublin majority in CP.
Add that to the fact that it won't cost the Dubs any more to watch the match (in terms of travel) and that fact that the Dubs are more used to playing in CP than any other team in the country - i just don't see how home advantage is lost by moving 3 miles down the road.
Quote from: Maguire01 on October 01, 2008, 01:55:40 PM
I can't understand why Dublin would lose any advantage in having the game at CP. Yes, more Tyrone fans may get tickets, but there will still be a significant Dublin majority in CP.
Add that to the fact that it won't cost the Dubs any more to watch the match (in terms of travel) and that fact that the Dubs are more used to playing in CP than any other team in the country - i just don't see how home advantage is lost by moving 3 miles down the road.
We've lost 2 out of 2 of these games . So clearly it's not an advantage
Gotta agree with that, while its my own personal opinion that the Dubs would be at a slight disadvantage playing there, that doesnt make a difference.
Until the players or management state this then what is everyone whingeing about?
Perhaps they might actually WANT to play there, to give some fringe players a run out in CP in front of a huge crowd before the championship. Or for other reasons.
Theres too many people on resdubs who presume they know whats best for the team when they actually dont know what the team want.
Will the crowd really be 70+, there is very little interest in the league due to the fact that it is seem as a trial for new players for the championship and most team aint even trying to win it. so this time round i am unsure if the interest will be there for it.
QuoteWhy can't Tyrone offer up a home game for "the good of the gaa" .
We will - in 2010 :D
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 01, 2008, 02:07:17 PM
Gotta agree with that, while its my own personal opinion that the Dubs would be at a slight disadvantage playing there, that doesnt make a difference.
Until the players or management state this then what is everyone whingeing about?
Perhaps they might actually WANT to play there, to give some fringe players a run out in CP in front of a huge crowd before the championship. Or for other reasons.
Theres too many people on resdubs who presume they know whats best for the team when they actually dont know what the team want.
A man with reason and sense ;)
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 01, 2008, 02:07:17 PM
Gotta agree with that, while its my own personal opinion that the Dubs would be at a slight disadvantage playing there,
Do you think the Dubs are always at a disadvantage when they play in CP or just against Tyrone?
Quote from: full back on October 01, 2008, 02:14:48 PM
Do you think the Dubs are always at a disadvantage when they play in CP or just against Tyrone?
I think in terms of development of fitness, Parnell being a smaller pitch suits them better for early league games.
But as I said, my opinion doesnt count, the players and management never had an issue with it before, so I dont see why they would this time.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 01:53:19 PM
Completely different matter if the Dublin management didn't want to play there but in my eyes it'd only be of benefit to them since summer is what it's all about and the more experience the better. Think people's disbelief is at the res dub crowd and their representatives over here, 31 against 1 and all that rubbish. Jaysus, I remember the time when u could have great craic with the Dubs, now all u seem to run into are the dayouters and de ones with the chips on their shoulders...
Who are the Res Dubs reps over here?
It seems to be the other 31 counties making a big deal of this, not the Dubs - I'd prefer to play in Parnell, but I'm not really all that put out if it's in Croker - whats the big deal?
As for the great craic with Dubs, dayouters etc - sort your own supporters out first before you start having a go at us
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 01:53:19 PM
Completely different matter if the Dublin management didn't want to play there but in my eyes it'd only be of benefit to them since summer is what it's all about and the more experience the better. Think people's disbelief is at the res dub crowd and their representatives over here, 31 against 1 and all that rubbish. Jaysus, I remember the time when u could have great craic with the Dubs, now all u seem to run into are the dayouters and de ones with the chips on their shoulders...
Who are the Res Dubs reps over here?
It seems to be the other 31 counties making a big deal of this, not the Dubs - I'd prefer to play in Parnell, but I'm not really all that put out if it's in Croker - whats the big deal?
As for the great craic with Dubs, dayouters etc - sort your own supporters out first before you start having a go at us
The ones throwing out the same garbage here as over there. Don't think the other 31 counties were aware of this until Canalman brought it over here, I certainly haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere. The bleating and whinging is pathetic and that's what most people seem to have an issue with.
On the supporters, I've got my stick at the ready. First Westmeath person to start whistling at free kicks or chanting at goalkeepers, or taking their flute out at matches (read that particular one on res dubs last year :o) gets it. Hold on wait a min.....
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 02:46:12 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 01:53:19 PM
Completely different matter if the Dublin management didn't want to play there but in my eyes it'd only be of benefit to them since summer is what it's all about and the more experience the better. Think people's disbelief is at the res dub crowd and their representatives over here, 31 against 1 and all that rubbish. Jaysus, I remember the time when u could have great craic with the Dubs, now all u seem to run into are the dayouters and de ones with the chips on their shoulders...
Who are the Res Dubs reps over here?
It seems to be the other 31 counties making a big deal of this, not the Dubs - I'd prefer to play in Parnell, but I'm not really all that put out if it's in Croker - whats the big deal?
As for the great craic with Dubs, dayouters etc - sort your own supporters out first before you start having a go at us
The ones throwing out the same garbage here as over there. Don't think the other 31 counties were aware of this until Canalman brought it over here, I certainly haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere. The bleating and whinging is pathetic and that's what most people seem to have an issue with.
On the supporters, I've got my stick at the ready. First Westmeath person to start whistling at free kicks or chanting at goalkeepers, or taking their flute out at matches (read that particular one on res dubs last year :o) gets it. Hold on wait a min.....
Canalman doesn't speak for the Dublin county board nor for Dublin supporters as a whole - I'm not going to drag on this for pages and pages - but why should Dublin accomodate the GAA when the GAA top brass criticise Dublin every opportunity they get?
When it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
Being selective with their pitch invasion criticism - I'm not taking this as a persecution complex, I just think those people are pricks who have chips on their shoulder about Dublin and not the other way around..
WRT Dublin fans whistling when opposing teams are taking free kicks - Westmeath fans did the exact same in the Leinster semi this year, as regards the other stuff, there are small minorities of fans who act the bollox at games - Dublin aren;t immune from this - anyone acting up should be thrown out of a game..
My point was the 31 counties didn't know or care about this till Canalman mentioned it. It has now dragged on 10+ pages due to the disbelief at the whinging coming from some on here.
You're introducing other issues into the "debate" now. I suggest if you've got an issue with ticket distribution then I'm sure GNevin can advise u about putting in a motion to congress.
Regarding Westmeath fans this year, like every other county in Ireland now, there's a minority who feel that if u can't beat em join em when playing the Dubs. League game against Eastmeath, who we'd have a lot less time for, don't recall any whistling. Draw your own conclusions...
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 03:09:19 PM
My point was the 31 counties didn't know or care about this till Canalman mentioned it. It has now dragged on 10+ pages due to the disbelief at the whinging coming from some on here.
You're introducing other issues into the "debate" now. I suggest if you've got an issue with ticket distribution then I'm sure GNevin can advise u about putting in a motion to congress.
Regarding Westmeath fans this year, like every other county in Ireland now, there's a minority who feel that if u can't beat em join em when playing the Dubs. League game against Eastmeath, who we'd have a lot less time for, don't recall any whistling. Draw your own conclusions...
Lower case n !
Up the Dubs!!!!
Did u forget the l, a and s??? :P
Croi, I dont mean to get into a silly argument (for once), and cant speak re Westmeath fans, but lots of counties have fans who boo free takers in games not involving Dublin. We all know this and to say its a case of "if you cant beat em join em" about the Dubs as an excuse is not really fair.
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 02:56:46 PMWhen it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
there's barely any tickets sold on ticketmaster - and all of them are up in the nosebleeds
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 02:56:46 PMWhen it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
there's barely any tickets sold on ticketmaster - and all of them are up in the nosebleeds
Not true, I got my Semi ticket from Ticketmaster and was 4 rows from the front, Lower Cusack.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 02:56:46 PMWhen it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
there's barely any tickets sold on ticketmaster - and all of them are up in the nosebleeds
You know this for a fact do you?
Quote from: Doohicky on October 01, 2008, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 02:56:46 PMWhen it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
there's barely any tickets sold on ticketmaster - and all of them are up in the nosebleeds
Not true, I got my Semi ticket from Ticketmaster and was 4 rows from the front, Lower Cusack.
That's cos the ground was about a third full..
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 02:56:46 PMWhen it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
there's barely any tickets sold on ticketmaster - and all of them are up in the nosebleeds
You know this for a fact do you?
Yes - I work for Ticketmaster
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2008, 03:55:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 02:56:46 PMWhen it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
there's barely any tickets sold on ticketmaster - and all of them are up in the nosebleeds
You know this for a fact do you?
In that case then quantify exactly how many tickets are 'hardly any'..
Yes - I work for Ticketmaster
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 01, 2008, 03:36:16 PM
Croi, I dont mean to get into a silly argument (for once), and cant speak re Westmeath fans, but lots of counties have fans who boo free takers in games not involving Dublin. We all know this and to say its a case of "if you cant beat em join em" about the Dubs as an excuse is not really fair.
True but they're most kids who don't know better/aren't within arms reach of their folks. Big games against Dublin u get the "if you cant beat em join em" joining in, just something I've noticed anyway. With Dublin, particularly behind the goals, it's almost a badge of honour to boo.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 04:07:49 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 01, 2008, 03:36:16 PM
Croi, I dont mean to get into a silly argument (for once), and cant speak re Westmeath fans, but lots of counties have fans who boo free takers in games not involving Dublin. We all know this and to say its a case of "if you cant beat em join em" about the Dubs as an excuse is not really fair.
True but they're most kids who don't know better/aren't within arms reach of their folks. Big games against Dublin u get the "if you cant beat em join em" joining in, just something I've noticed anyway. With Dublin, particularly behind the goals, it's almost a badge of honour to boo.
Indeed
Would the Dubs be so concerned about playing under lights at Croker instead of Parnell Park if they were playing Wicklow? I doubt it.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 04:07:49 PM
True but they're most kids who don't know better/aren't within arms reach of their folks.
With Dublin, particularly behind the goals, it's almost a badge of honour to boo.
Ah Croi, dont be saying the Dubs adults do it but anyone from anywhere else is just kids!!! Come on!
Right behind the goals is where the biggest sc**bag element of the Dubs support go IMO so I wouldnt be suprised for them to see it as a "badge of honour".
Croi, I'm even admitting the Dubs do it more than most, but you could at least admit theres lots of fans around the country, adults too, who also boo frees, and its nothing to do with "if you cant beat em, join em"
Quote from: Over the Bar on October 01, 2008, 04:12:19 PM
Would the Dubs be so concerned about playing under lights at Croker instead of Parnell Park if they were playing Wicklow? I doubt it.
When you say "the dubs" I presume you mean a handful of Dublin supporters on an internet forum and not the team or the fans in general?
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 01, 2008, 04:14:23 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 04:07:49 PM
True but they're most kids who don't know better/aren't within arms reach of their folks.
With Dublin, particularly behind the goals, it's almost a badge of honour to boo.
Ah Croi, dont be saying the Dubs adults do it but anyone from anywhere else is just kids!!! Come on!
Right behind the goals is where the biggest sc**bag element of the Dubs support go IMO so I wouldnt be suprised for them to see it as a "badge of honour".
Croi, I'm even admitting the Dubs do it more than most, but you could at least admit theres lots of fans around the country, adults too, who also boo frees, and its nothing to do with "if you cant beat em, join em"
Its just the Dubs that do it,They are all the same those bleedin Jacks
No such thing as a good one I reckon....
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 01, 2008, 04:14:23 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 04:07:49 PM
True but they're most kids who don't know better/aren't within arms reach of their folks.
With Dublin, particularly behind the goals, it's almost a badge of honour to boo.
Ah Croi, dont be saying the Dubs adults do it but anyone from anywhere else is just kids!!! Come on!
Right behind the goals is where the biggest sc**bag element of the Dubs support go IMO so I wouldnt be suprised for them to see it as a "badge of honour".
Croi, I'm even admitting the Dubs do it more than most, but you could at least admit theres lots of fans around the country, adults too, who also boo frees, and its nothing to do with "if you cant beat em, join em"
Maybe there are but I can't think of anything near the scale as I witnessed in CP & PP this year, and the travels included Cork, Kiltoom, Clones, Longford, Tullamore, Ardfinnan & Omagh. Mind you the Tyronies did some amount of whinging that day, but that was directed at the ref...
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 01, 2008, 04:27:00 PM
No such thing as a good one I reckon....
:D
Wonder if Myles will be on outraged defending the Dubs?
Canalman doesn't speak for the Dublin county board nor for Dublin supporters as a whole - I'm not going to drag on this for pages and pages - but why should Dublin accomodate the GAA when the GAA top brass criticise Dublin every opportunity they get?
When it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
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I don't think Dublin have to accomodate the GAA. If the GAA decide this is what is happening then Dublin can do f**k all about it!!
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 01, 2008, 04:37:23 PM
Maybe there are but I can't think of anything near the scale as I witnessed in CP & PP this year, and the travels included Cork, Kiltoom, Clones, Longford, Tullamore, Ardfinnan & Omagh. Mind you the Tyronies did some amount of whinging that day, but that was directed at the ref...
No maybe about it, as you know.
As per my last post, I acknowledge the Dubs are the worst culprits, just not the only ones.
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 03:53:19 PM
Quote from: Doohicky on October 01, 2008, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 02:56:46 PMWhen it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
there's barely any tickets sold on ticketmaster - and all of them are up in the nosebleeds
Not true, I got my Semi ticket from Ticketmaster and was 4 rows from the front, Lower Cusack.
That's cos the ground was about a third full..
Firstly, that is a blatant lie and secondly...
I got my tickets BEFORE they went to the clubs, how did the GAA know exactly how many tickets would be needed and given back.
Did they just decide that ticketmaster deserved differnt allocations for this one game??
Anyway, this isn't the topic of conversation.
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 01, 2008, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 01, 2008, 04:27:00 PM
No such thing as a good one I reckon....
:D
Wonder if Myles will be on outraged defending the Dubs?
Its a sad state of affairs when more people are willing to defend Travellers than will defend the Dubs :D
Its not often you find sense on the Reservoirdubs site but I think below puts an end to Croke Park not being a home venue for Dublin.
Have to say I'm dismayed by the doom and gloom merchants you've all turned into.
If the team has an attitude remotely resembling some of the posts above, then we're doomed and deserve to get hockeyed in every big match we manage to stagger into.
A couple of points about Croker V Parnell:
1 - What is all this naive, wide-eyed nonsense about Parnell Park being our 'spiritual home'? Some facts, gentlemen - we don't train there any more. We've only played our league games in Donnycarney since 1996 and since then we've made the playoffs ONCE (1999).
Before that we played all our league games in Croker. Take the 1970's - we made four league finals in a row.
Then in the 80's and 90's when our league matches were still in Croker we made the play-offs every year between 1986 to 1995.
Then come 1996, we move to our 'Spiritual Home', Parnell Park and, as pointed out above, we make the play-offs once.
2 - the term 'Spiritual Home' should surely apply to a place where we have a long 'historical' association with - yet, we've a much older and strong tradition with playing our matches in Croke Park (see point 1).
3 - To say that we lose home-advantage when playing Croker is utter crap and I'm amazed so many people are churning out this 'technicality' as if it has any basis in reality.
The fact is, when Dublin play Croke Park there will be at least two thirds of the crowd supporting them on a pitch we no doubt know very well. If that isn't 'home' advantage then I don't know what is.
It was good of Dublin to play there league games in a neutral venue prior to 1996. I remember Tyrone beating the Dubs by 4 goals in a league game in croke park in round 1991 or 1992.
Grand so Tyrone dreamer, I can therefore presume Dublin county board will be given control of Croke park for whichever O'Byrne,league and challenge games they want there?
If this is deemed a home game for the Dubs then it is up to the DCB and them alone to decide where the game should be played. If there is no benefit for the Dubs to take the game to CP financial or otherwise then the game should be played at a venue of Dublins choice.
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 01, 2008, 08:31:24 PM
Grand so Tyrone dreamer, I can therefore presume Dublin county board will be given control of Croke park for whichever O'Byrne,league and challenge games they want there?
We all know that one of the reason it's being moved is because of the demand there would / could be for tickets. The same demand does not normally exist for O'Byrne / Challenge matches or even most league matches.
Quote from: EC Unique on October 01, 2008, 04:45:45 PM
Canalman doesn't speak for the Dublin county board nor for Dublin supporters as a whole - I'm not going to drag on this for pages and pages - but why should Dublin accomodate the GAA when the GAA top brass criticise Dublin every opportunity they get?
When it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
I don't think Dublin have to accomodate the GAA. If the GAA decide this is what is happening then Dublin can do f**k all about it!!
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Ah ignorance is bliss!
Central council now decide where a county teams 'home' is and can force a county to play games away from their designated 'home' venue? Quite..
Quote from: Maguire01 on October 01, 2008, 10:02:46 PM
We all know that one of the reason it's being moved is because of the demand there would / could be for tickets. The same demand does not normally exist for O'Byrne / Challenge matches or even most league matches.
But this argument has gone from demand for tickets, to people argueing that Croke Park is Dublins home ground, so they should be entitled to play there whenever they like so, crowd or not.
Maguire. I do agree with your point, just pointing out the silliness of some posts on here.
Again for the record, I dont care where they play the game.
Are Dublin not part of the gaa? Reading some of the Dublin fans you'd think it was some kind of rival to Dublin that there fans detest.
Tyrone Dreamer - I owe you an apology - you were right all year - I was one of the doubters who couldn't see this team getting a 3rd AI - So apologies my friend !
think its a stupid idea and like has been said we're simply being used by croke park to make them some early season cash. sad reallly the DCB run to thier beck and call the whole time.one wonders will be ever have a county board with the backbone to give them the 2 fingers the next time. sad situation really from our point of view to have to play another of these charades in february. the difference is this time i can absolutely gurantee you won;t get anything lke the crowd of the last time. the novelty has worn off.
Hard to believe. A lot of lads were complaining when they started playing soccer and rugby in Croke Park, now they are complaining about playing gaelic games there as well. Maybe we should just let it sit empty and go in and look at it every so often
Quote from: orangeman on October 01, 2008, 10:41:10 PM
Tyrone Dreamer - I owe you an apology - you were right all year - I was one of the doubters who couldn't see this team getting a 3rd AI - So apologies my friend !
Cheers! To be fair I was basing it a lot on getting every one back fit - I knew if we had a full squad we were as good as anyone. If someone had told me the team that started the All Ireland final a few months ago I dont know how much faith I would have had in us winning.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on October 02, 2008, 08:34:09 AM
Quote from: orangeman on October 01, 2008, 10:41:10 PM
Tyrone Dreamer - I owe you an apology - you were right all year - I was one of the doubters who couldn't see this team getting a 3rd AI - So apologies my friend !
Cheers! To be fair I was basing it a lot on getting every one back fit - I knew if we had a full squad we were as good as anyone. If someone had told me the team that started the All Ireland final a few months ago I dont know how much faith I would have had in us winning.
Well it's done and dusted now - 3 medals for a lot of them lads is some reward !
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 10:09:54 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 01, 2008, 04:45:45 PM
Canalman doesn't speak for the Dublin county board nor for Dublin supporters as a whole - I'm not going to drag on this for pages and pages - but why should Dublin accomodate the GAA when the GAA top brass criticise Dublin every opportunity they get?
When it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
I don't think Dublin have to accomodate the GAA. If the GAA decide this is what is happening then Dublin can do f**k all about it!!
Ah ignorance is bliss!
Central council now decide where a county teams 'home' is and can force a county to play games away from their designated 'home' venue? Quite..
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You can call it what you like and county board this and central council that but the reality is that if the GAA decide that this is to happen then it will happen. I think the Dublin county board would go with it anyway :-\
Can't understand why some Dublin 'fans' are whinging so much about this :'(... Why not embrace it and look forward to it ??? A big night out in Croker with a great crowd is not something to fear or appose...
Quote from: EC Unique on October 02, 2008, 09:22:50 AM
Quote from: heffo on October 01, 2008, 10:09:54 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 01, 2008, 04:45:45 PM
Canalman doesn't speak for the Dublin county board nor for Dublin supporters as a whole - I'm not going to drag on this for pages and pages - but why should Dublin accomodate the GAA when the GAA top brass criticise Dublin every opportunity they get?
When it comes to games where tickets are tight selling them on ticketmaster before clubs have received their allocation? Yet when they need to fill Croker they call Dublin (the beaten quarter finalists)
I don't think Dublin have to accomodate the GAA. If the GAA decide this is what is happening then Dublin can do f**k all about it!!
Ah ignorance is bliss!
Central council now decide where a county teams 'home' is and can force a county to play games away from their designated 'home' venue? Quite..
You can call it what you like and county board this and central council that but the reality is that if the GAA decide that this is to happen then it will happen. I think the Dublin county board would go with it anyway :-\
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Semantics nothing.
If the Dublin county board didn't want the game to go ahead in Croker, it wouldn't - get your facts straight.
I guess we will just have to wait and see ;D
Dubs eye up floodlit clash with Tyrone
02 October 2008
Dublin county board will look into the possibility of playing Tyrone under lights at Croke Park if they get a home game against the All-Ireland champions in next year's National Football League fixtures.
The first floodlit game ever played at Croke Park in February 2007 was an 82,000 sell-out between the same two sides.
Dublin chairman Gerry Harrington admitted that his board would be keen to repeat the fixture if the league fixtures were to give them home advantage. However, he said that it would be dependent on agreement between the two counties and also Dublin's new management team which has still be appointed following Paul Caffrey's resignation in August.
The recent history between the two sides would ensure a big interest in the game if it was to take place at the Jones' Road venue.
Meanwhile, Harrington has confirmed that Paul Caffrey's successor will be in place by November 3. Former star midfielder Brian Mullins, who briefly managed the Dubs after his playing career ended in 1986, is hot favourite to land the role.
Obviously Dublin count Croke Park as a home venue!
Quote from: EC Unique on October 02, 2008, 09:37:47 AM
I guess we will just have to wait and see ;D
Regardless of anything else, if the county board didn't want the game in Croker, it would be in Parnell.
They will get a sweetner to have in Croker and that'll be that.
Bottom line - Dublin county board are accomodating the GAA by having the game in Croker..
Yea yea :D :D ::)
Quote from: EC Unique on October 02, 2008, 10:40:51 AM
Dubs eye up floodlit clash with Tyrone
02 October 2008
Dublin county board will look into the possibility of playing Tyrone under lights at Croke Park if they get a home game against the All-Ireland champions in next year's National Football League fixtures.
The first floodlit game ever played at Croke Park in February 2007 was an 82,000 sell-out between the same two sides.
Dublin chairman Gerry Harrington admitted that his board would be keen to repeat the fixture if the league fixtures were to give them home advantage. However, he said that it would be dependent on agreement between the two counties and also Dublin's new management team which has still be appointed following Paul Caffrey's resignation in August.
The recent history between the two sides would ensure a big interest in the game if it was to take place at the Jones' Road venue.
Meanwhile, Harrington has confirmed that Paul Caffrey's successor will be in place by November 3. Former star midfielder Brian Mullins, who briefly managed the Dubs after his playing career ended in 1986, is hot favourite to land the role.
Obviously Dublin count Croke Park as a home venue!
Obviously Dublin count Croke Park as a home venue!
How did you get that out of that press release ?
I give up!(http://jon44w.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/Doh.gif)
If the DCB see Croke park as their home venue why would they need the agreement of Tyrone to play their home game there??
This is getting ridiculous. Dublin play all their 'home' Championship games (and more) at Croke Park. It's only a couple of miles from Parnell.
If Monaghan were told they had to play a particular league game in Clontibret / Castleblaney / Scotstown instead of Clones, we wouldn't be saying we had lost home advantage.
Quote from: Maguire01 on October 02, 2008, 01:31:59 PM
This is getting ridiculous. Dublin play all their 'home' Championship games (and more) at Croke Park. It's only a couple of miles from Parnell.
If Monaghan were told they had to play a particular league game in Clontibret / Castleblaney / Scotstown instead of Clones, we wouldn't be saying we had lost home advantage.
I think the gist is that the Dubs arent saying that, just a few internet posters.
If you are going to be technical you could argue its officially not their home venue and you would be correct, end of story.
If you are going to use common sense you would say its a bit more than a neutral venue to Dublin, more a home venue, which I wouldnt argue with either. In fact the more I think of it, the more league games they play there the better.
Theres arguments for both sides, but theres only one official stance and that is that Croke park is NOT Dublins home venue.
Thats not my opinion, or that of Dublin fans, players or management, thats fact.
Quote from: Maguire01 on October 02, 2008, 01:31:59 PM
This is getting ridiculous. Dublin play all their 'home' Championship games (and more) at Croke Park. It's only a couple of miles from Parnell.
If Monaghan were told they had to play a particular league game in Clontibret / Castleblaney / Scotstown instead of Clones, we wouldn't be saying we had lost home advantage.
Do Monaghan have to ask central council for access to these grounds?
Quote from: Gnevin on October 02, 2008, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on October 02, 2008, 01:31:59 PM
This is getting ridiculous. Dublin play all their 'home' Championship games (and more) at Croke Park. It's only a couple of miles from Parnell.
If Monaghan were told they had to play a particular league game in Clontibret / Castleblaney / Scotstown instead of Clones, we wouldn't be saying we had lost home advantage.
Do Monaghan have to ask central council for access to these grounds?
No. But i thought the point was about whether Dublin were losing home advantage, not what red tape you would have to go through to play at a particular venue.
Its time to put Dublin in Croke Park full time.
Quote from: rrhf on October 03, 2008, 10:49:32 AM
Its time to put Dublin in Croke Park full time.
Its time to put Dublin in Croke Park
ON time !
Jesus, you'd swear the Tyronies had nothing better to be discussing - AI senior & minor wins and all you can worry about is dragging up this..
Tyrone to support any plan to light up Croker
The new lights in Croke Park
03 October 2008
The Tyrone County Board has reacted positively to reports that their Dublin counterparts are considering playing the All-Ireland champions under lights at Croke Park should they be drawn at home in the 2009 NFL fixtures.
Tyrone County Board chairman Pat Darcy says such a spectacle would be fitting as it would co-incide with the staging of the Association's 125 year anniversary celebrations.
"If it's part of any celebrations to mark the 125th anniversary of Cumann Luthchleas Gael, I would have no problem with it," said Darcy.
"With Tyrone as All-Ireland champions and Dublin under a new manager and setting out on a new path in 2009, it would be a terrific match."
Quote from: heffo on October 03, 2008, 10:56:05 AM
Jesus, you'd swear the Tyronies had nothing better to be discussing - AI senior & minor wins and all you can worry about is dragging up this..
We are just looking foward to seeing our heros in Croke park again!!
Quote from: Gnevin on October 01, 2008, 11:53:20 AM
This is nothing to do with the Q-final ::) . Home advantage is a well documented advantage in sport. Why should Dublin give it up all the time? Why can't Tyrone offer up a home game for "the good of the gaa" .
Gnevin, I offered Greencastle earlier back in the thread.
Quote from: Tankie on September 30, 2008, 12:49:45 AM
the game under lights 2yrs ago was shite, if they want 70k+ to turn up Dublin and Tyrone should put out proper teams but that is not what happens in the league. Again i would rather the game was played in PP as Croker does make it a neutral venue!
Play all your championship matches next year away from Croker then at a neutral venue....U make me laugh...Northern teams have to travel at least 2hrs to get there and you have the cheek to call it a neutral venue....Making excuses alraedy before the game has even been confirmed!!! I'm a Armagh fan and i hope its in Croker and Tyrone hammer you...Cant stand self pity!
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on October 04, 2008, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: Tankie on September 30, 2008, 12:49:45 AM
the game under lights 2yrs ago was shite, if they want 70k+ to turn up Dublin and Tyrone should put out proper teams but that is not what happens in the league. Again i would rather the game was played in PP as Croker does make it a neutral venue!
Play all your championship matches next year away from Croker then at a neutral venue....U make me laugh...Northern teams have to travel at least 2hrs to get there and you have the cheek to call it a neutral venue....Making excuses alraedy before the game has even been confirmed!!! I'm a Armagh fan and i hope its in Croker and Tyrone hammer you...Cant stand self pity!
Dublin have no input into where the GAC or the Leinster council fix championship games for - personally speaking, I'd like to see Dublin play more games outside of Croke park in the Leinster championship - like Pearse park two years ago..
No excuses from any Dublin fan here - you seem to be missing the point completely - Brennan & co seem to think they can treat Dublin like shi* & criticise us when it suits him while ignoring similar issues in other counties and then roll us out when they need a cash cow.
FYI - it takes two hours to get to Croker on match day from some parts of Dublin - I'd prefer to have a straight motorway all the way to Croker than get two or more buses..
lads dublin have lost once in the championship since 1981 away from croke park, this idea that dublin don;t like provincial venues is rubbish. I won't be going to croke park in january because parnell park is our home venue, and i'm sick of being used by the hierachy of croke park as a cash cow whenever they bloody well feel lke it. Thanks once again to our lily livered county board for selling us out again. I'd have told croke park to f*** off.
That argument doesnt wash to be fair.
Many counties play League games at more than one venue within their own county. Wish yous would stop moaning. Ye's are never happy.
If it was against a percieved weaker county with the prospect of a big Dublin win, there wouldnt be as much constirnation. To me it smacks of the school bully
Quote from: heffo on October 04, 2008, 12:43:04 PM
FYI - it takes two hours to get to Croker on match day from some parts of Dublin - I'd prefer to have a straight motorway all the way to Croker than get two or more buses..
Is that the Kilkenny part of Dublin you're coming from?
What about the M50, is that not a motorway all the way to Croker from the other end of Dublin?
Quote from: INDIANA on October 04, 2008, 01:02:37 PM
Thanks once again to our lily livered county board for selling us out again. I'd have told croke park to f*** off.
If the county board assured you that they would get more money from having it in Croker, would that be ok?
bensars I couldn't give a continental hat your views on the subject are.
Rois i don't care about the money. with a new management team and the inevitable wholesale changes to the squad, we would prefer to play in parnell park in front of the real fans in a lowkey affair to give the new management some breathing space, instaed of this bloody circus once again. if tyrone want to play in croker, no problem but they can play against someone else. The DCB never do anything to the hype and bulshit that surrounds the dublin football team except to fuel it. Absolutely no backbone to any of the individulas who run our county board. If dublin get tanked by tyrone in front of 75,000 which is likely it will simply put the nw management under pressure straight away. Another own goal by the DCB.
Quote from: INDIANA on October 04, 2008, 01:02:37 PM
lads dublin have lost once in the championship since 1981 away from croke park, this idea that dublin don;t like provincial venues is rubbish.
Just out of curiosity, one loss out of how many games outside CP?
Indiana I sympathise to an extent, and I guess it's a purely selfish view from me that I would prefer to go to Croke Park at any opportunity.
But I have to also say that I would be in favour of the game being played wherever most people would get to see it, and given the size of Dublin and the interest in Tyrone at the minute, I can't fault the GAA for wanting to hold it where they will get a bigger gate receipt.
thats fine rois, but let the 2 best teams in the country play in such an affair not us, because we aren't anywhere near tyrone or kerry. the new manager will be announced soon, he has a massive task ahead of him and the potential of a hiding in croke park is too high for me. the inevitable bullshit from breheny and hogan about dublin football in crisis will surface again and the new man is on a hiding to nothing before he starts. this is one time where the gate receipts aren't needed, and believe with the finance behind the dublin fotball team they don't need it.
on a rough estimate maguire, including qualifiers outside croker i'd say its 2 defeats in about 20 odd. which is a better record than we have in croke park.
Dont put yourselves down.
Quote from: Rois on October 04, 2008, 01:41:27 PM
Indiana I sympathise to an extent, and I guess it's a purely selfish view from me that I would prefer to go to Croke Park at any opportunity.
But I have to also say that I would be in favour of the game being played wherever most people would get to see it, and given the size of Dublin and the interest in Tyrone at the minute, I can't fault the GAA for wanting to hold it where they will get a bigger gate receipt.
Of course this view will strangely flip flop when Dublin are expected to play a championship game in a 15-20k stadium
Quote from: Gnevin on October 04, 2008, 10:37:22 PM
Of course this view will strangely flip flop when Dublin are expected to play a championship game in a 15-20k stadium
If Tyrone draw Dublin in a championship match next year, I very much doubt whether anyone would expect to hold it in a 15-20k stadium. Is this not the point, that the interest in this match would draw more spectators than Parnell Park can hold?
Indiana, fair point.
Quote from: INDIANA on October 04, 2008, 02:01:45 PM
thats fine rois, but let the 2 best teams in the country play in such an affair not us, because we aren't anywhere near tyrone or kerry.
Yes, but obviously Kerry people won't travel for the league and so CP would be half empty. That's not the way to have a high profile start to the league. There's no denying that Dublin will bring the crowd and colour for an attractive tie and at the end of the day that's what the GAA want, and need, to properly kick the league off.
Indiana, if the new manager and the players actually confirm they have no problems, or even prefer, playing the game in CP, will you still stay away?
yes i will and i know quite a few others holiness from my club who are doing the same. fed up being used in this manner by the gaa. Nothing in the winter months beats a sat night game in parnell with a full house for atmosphere. ask any of the die-hards they'll agree with me. but we ahve to play this annual charade in croke park it seems to suit other people's agenda. Like i said let the 2 best teams in the country open up the league as it should be. and we aren't in that bracket at the moment.
Thats not even the important point, if dublin end up losing badly -pressure is immeadiately on the new manager who i'm sure wasn't even asked as to whether he wanted such a fixture. Tyrone will have mulligan, o neill , mulgrew etc all back looking for places. We're trying to build a new team and this isn't the way to do it. But as i said before the DCB can only ever see euro signs and believe me they don't bloody well need it.
I wouldnt be to worried about a few Dublin fans on here saying them and there mates will be boycotting the match. The exact same stuff was said before the last league game in Croke Park. 82,000 turned up so to say they are in the minority is an understatement. If someone wont go to a league game in there own county in a venue the county board/players/management want then you'd have to question whether they would have went anyway.
Tyrone county board have said they may be willing to give up home advantage to get the league of to a high profile start. If this is a Dublin away game and goes ahead will you still be boycotting Indiana? In most counties they play games in 2 or 3 different grounds and I've never heard any of this craic before.
The fact that the venues are so close makes the arguements against the Dublin county board for trying to promote gaelic games in the city laughable. Tyrone used to play there league games in Dungannon for a while and then moved them to Omagh which is a bigger venue 30 miles away, I never heard anyone saying they were boycotting the games.
No-one asked the dublin players or management Tyrone Dreamer , you don;t know any of them personally, i do and they weren't asked. On a point of reference for ill-informed individuals like yourself there was 37,000 free tickets given to schools the last day, so the 82,000 attendance was a joke parodied by the media. You won't fill it his time round, that i can guarantee. The last occasion was the first floodnight GAA game in the history of the Gaa ie a novelty, this is just another league game , bear that in mind. 45- 50 k at most and 50% of them will be schoollkids. You won't get the sunshine dublin and tyrone fans out for this one.
Why not a double header? From any Division? There's bound to be teams playing either hurling or football that would love to get a run-out in Croker at some point, and to start you league campaign off like that would be good for some counties' fans who don't get to see Croker much. You could even play an AI club semi-final there if there was the demand for tickets.
Actually, it was first floodlit game in Croke Park, not in the history of the GAA.
So what if there was 37,000 free tickets. The GAA should be commended on the fact of being proactive and trying to get the youth of Dublin and beyond interested in gaelic games.
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 01:50:34 PM
No-one asked the dublin players or management Tyrone Dreamer , you don;t know any of them personally, i do and they weren't asked. On a point of reference for ill-informed individuals like yourself there was 37,000 free tickets given to schools the last day, so the 82,000 attendance was a joke parodied by the media. You won't fill it his time round, that i can guarantee. The last occasion was the first floodnight GAA game in the history of the Gaa ie a novelty, this is just another league game , bear that in mind. 45- 50 k at most and 50% of them will be schoollkids. You won't get the sunshine dublin and tyrone fans out for this one.
So the GAA will propbably give out free tickets to schools again. If anything, such a move only shows the GAA in a positive light - a genuine marketing attempt to raise the profile of the league, rather than trying to cash in on one game.
Who cares if half the crowd are school kids? Everyone who wants to see the game will have a chance to do so. If the sunshine fans choose to stay at home, so be it.
And how was the 82,000 attendance a joke? There was 82,000 there - it doesn't matter how many comps there was really. The GAA got 82,000 into the stadium and tons of press coverage thrown in. That's what marketing is about.
82,00 - some joke !!!!
Any other sport would love an attendance like this.
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 01:50:34 PM
No-one asked the dublin players or management Tyrone Dreamer , you don;t know any of them personally, i do and they weren't asked. On a point of reference for ill-informed individuals like yourself there was 37,000 free tickets given to schools the last day, so the 82,000 attendance was a joke parodied by the media. You won't fill it his time round, that i can guarantee. The last occasion was the first floodnight GAA game in the history of the Gaa ie a novelty, this is just another league game , bear that in mind. 45- 50 k at most and 50% of them will be schoollkids. You won't get the sunshine dublin and tyrone fans out for this one.
What management ? Surely a squad has not been picked yet?
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 01:50:34 PM
No-one asked the dublin players or management Tyrone Dreamer , you don;t know any of them personally, i do and they weren't asked. On a point of reference for ill-informed individuals like yourself there was 37,000 free tickets given to schools the last day, so the 82,000 attendance was a joke parodied by the media. You won't fill it his time round, that i can guarantee. The last occasion was the first floodnight GAA game in the history of the Gaa ie a novelty, this is just another league game , bear that in mind. 45- 50 k at most and 50% of them will be schoollkids. You won't get the sunshine dublin and tyrone fans out for this one.
Obviously the management arent in place yet so we wont know their view for a while. Did I not read some of the players saying they would like it to be in Croke Park? You said you wouldnt go even if the players and management wanted it to be there anyway. We already know the county board are likely to be in favour of it. Can you confirm as you said above that you wont be going even if the players/management/county board want it? That seems a strange decision and very narrow minded considering the ground is only 5 mins from Parnell Park.
As for the attendance who cares if they need to give out free tickets to school children, in fact I think thats a great idea and more initiatives like this should be used to promote gaelic games. To be honest I dont actually believe 37,000 free tickets were given out the last day,have you any proof of this?
They would get a big crowd for this game and wouldnt be just another league game. It would be used to kick off the celebrations of the 125th anniversary of the gaa and will be marketed well.
I think they could fill the ground without having to give out free tickets - I don't believe there were 37k free tickets given out in any case !
Quote from: orangeman on October 05, 2008, 02:27:09 PM
82,00 - some joke !!!!
Any other sport would love an attendance like this.
Healy Park can get 22,000 ;)
Quote from: reddgnhand on October 05, 2008, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 01:50:34 PM
No-one asked the dublin players or management Tyrone Dreamer , you don;t know any of them personally, i do and they weren't asked. On a point of reference for ill-informed individuals like yourself there was 37,000 free tickets given to schools the last day, so the 82,000 attendance was a joke parodied by the media. You won't fill it his time round, that i can guarantee. The last occasion was the first floodnight GAA game in the history of the Gaa ie a novelty, this is just another league game , bear that in mind. 45- 50 k at most and 50% of them will be schoollkids. You won't get the sunshine dublin and tyrone fans out for this one.
What management ? Surely a squad has not been picked yet?
How often are players/managers consulted by anyone about venues?
As for comments that the "two best teams in the Country open the NFL with a game in Croke Park"....
Can you really see Tyrone or Kerry giving up home advantage to play the other 150 or 200 miles away from home?
the management are in place it just hasn't been announced yet and no i'm not saying if you want to know do your own digging. Like i said if you want a floodlit game in croker in January organise it between your own bloody counties but leave us out of it.
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 08:11:59 PM
the management are in place it just hasn't been announced yet and no i'm not saying if you want to know do your own digging. Like i said if you want a floodlit game in croker in January organise it between your own bloody counties but leave us out of it.
Are you happy with the new management team ? Is it true that under the new rules Inter County panels cannot train collectively before Jan 1 .? When will the new manager be announced ?
it will be offically announced on november 3rd but its a done deal. I'm relatively happy considering most people asked weren't interested in an interview. its a thankless task we really don't have the players to land the big one ,yet the manager will be slated either way. so best of luck to him because he'll need it. but a opening game with a new squad against the all-ireland champions in croke park in the new year charade a i call it isn't the brighest move in the world, anyone with a hint of a braincell can see that
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 08:11:59 PM
the management are in place it just hasn't been announced yet and no i'm not saying if you want to know do your own digging. Like i said if you want a floodlit game in croker in January organise it between your own bloody counties but leave us out of it.
Who are you talking too exactly?
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
yes i will and i know quite a few others holiness from my club who are doing the same. fed up being used in this manner by the gaa. Nothing in the winter months beats a sat night game in parnell with a full house for atmosphere. ask any of the die-hards they'll agree with me. but we ahve to play this annual charade in croke park it seems to suit other people's agenda. Like i said let the 2 best teams in the country open up the league as it should be. and we aren't in that bracket at the moment.
Thats not even the important point, if dublin end up losing badly -pressure is immeadiately on the new manager who i'm sure wasn't even asked as to whether he wanted such a fixture. Tyrone will have mulligan, o neill , mulgrew etc all back looking for places. We're trying to build a new team and this isn't the way to do it. But as i said before the DCB can only ever see euro signs and believe me they don't bloody well need it.
To be honest Indiana, as a parnell pass holder I would consider myself a "die hard" and I agree that you cant beat a sat night full house in Parnell park.
But to be quite honest, we dont even know who the next manager is, so until the manager is appointed and he says he would prefer the game to be played in Parnell, I dont see what the problem is.
I've seen enough new players caught like rabbits in the headlights when thrown onto the pitch at Croke park during the summer to believe a league game, where losing is not a disaster, would be an ideal opportunity to give these guys a taste of the action.
I cant see the new manager being under pressure if they lose badly either. Tyrone destroyed us this summer. Nobody is expecting the new manager to turn things around in the very first game.
you're way off mate, if dublin get hammered he'll be slated by the O Reilly Mafia Corporation. The amt of bullshit and hype that follows us is extraordinary and this only adds to it? so why give them the opportunity. Its somthing a donkey would do ie the DCB. The manager is in situ by the way, and i doubt he'll do a u turn before its announced and if you read the papers you'll know who it is.
And if Tyrone were to hammer Dublin in Parnell Park it would be any different? You think the media wouldn't notice because its a few miles up the road in a smaller venue?
Quote from: Rois on October 04, 2008, 11:02:32 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 04, 2008, 10:37:22 PM
Of course this view will strangely flip flop when Dublin are expected to play a championship game in a 15-20k stadium
If Tyrone draw Dublin in a championship match next year, I very much doubt whether anyone would expect to hold it in a 15-20k stadium. Is this not the point, that the interest in this match would draw more spectators than Parnell Park can hold?
Indiana, fair point.
The point was the when Dublin drew Longford and Dublin fans wanted it moved to a bigger venue (note not Croke Park) the "lets get as many in a possible" view point was mocked and abused.
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 08:11:59 PM
the management are in place it just hasn't been announced yet and no i'm not saying if you want to know do your own digging. Like i said if you want a floodlit game in croker in January organise it between your own bloody counties but leave us out of it.
Who exactly made you the voice of Dublin GAA? I don't think anyone is any better placed to decide where the match be played than your county board and they have come out and said they're interested in it.
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 05, 2008, 08:39:28 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
yes i will and i know quite a few others holiness from my club who are doing the same. fed up being used in this manner by the gaa. Nothing in the winter months beats a sat night game in parnell with a full house for atmosphere. ask any of the die-hards they'll agree with me. but we ahve to play this annual charade in croke park it seems to suit other people's agenda. Like i said let the 2 best teams in the country open up the league as it should be. and we aren't in that bracket at the moment.
Thats not even the important point, if dublin end up losing badly -pressure is immeadiately on the new manager who i'm sure wasn't even asked as to whether he wanted such a fixture. Tyrone will have mulligan, o neill , mulgrew etc all back looking for places. We're trying to build a new team and this isn't the way to do it. But as i said before the DCB can only ever see euro signs and believe me they don't bloody well need it.
But to be quite honest, we dont even know who the next manager is, so until the manager is appointed and he says he would prefer the game to be played in Parnell, I dont see what the problem is.
HHNB - new manager was offered the job over four weeks ago now and unless there is a drastic U-turn, the only thing to be announced will be his selectors..
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Quote from: his holiness nb on October 05, 2008, 08:39:28 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
yes i will and i know quite a few others holiness from my club who are doing the same. fed up being used in this manner by the gaa. Nothing in the winter months beats a sat night game in parnell with a full house for atmosphere. ask any of the die-hards they'll agree with me. but we ahve to play this annual charade in croke park it seems to suit other people's agenda. Like i said let the 2 best teams in the country open up the league as it should be. and we aren't in that bracket at the moment.
Thats not even the important point, if dublin end up losing badly -pressure is immeadiately on the new manager who i'm sure wasn't even asked as to whether he wanted such a fixture. Tyrone will have mulligan, o neill , mulgrew etc all back looking for places. We're trying to build a new team and this isn't the way to do it. But as i said before the DCB can only ever see euro signs and believe me they don't bloody well need it.
But to be quite honest, we dont even know who the next manager is, so until the manager is appointed and he says he would prefer the game to be played in Parnell, I dont see what the problem is.
HHNB - new manager was offered the job over four weeks ago now and unless there is a drastic U-turn, the only thing to be announced will be his selectors..
Brian Mullins ?????
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Quote from: his holiness nb on October 05, 2008, 08:39:28 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
yes i will and i know quite a few others holiness from my club who are doing the same. fed up being used in this manner by the gaa. Nothing in the winter months beats a sat night game in parnell with a full house for atmosphere. ask any of the die-hards they'll agree with me. but we ahve to play this annual charade in croke park it seems to suit other people's agenda. Like i said let the 2 best teams in the country open up the league as it should be. and we aren't in that bracket at the moment.
Thats not even the important point, if dublin end up losing badly -pressure is immeadiately on the new manager who i'm sure wasn't even asked as to whether he wanted such a fixture. Tyrone will have mulligan, o neill , mulgrew etc all back looking for places. We're trying to build a new team and this isn't the way to do it. But as i said before the DCB can only ever see euro signs and believe me they don't bloody well need it.
But to be quite honest, we dont even know who the next manager is, so until the manager is appointed and he says he would prefer the game to be played in Parnell, I dont see what the problem is.
HHNB - new manager was offered the job over four weeks ago now and unless there is a drastic U-turn, the only thing to be announced will be his selectors..
Brian Mullins ?????
Yes!
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Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
yes i will and i know quite a few others holiness from my club who are doing the same. fed up being used in this manner by the gaa. Nothing in the winter months beats a sat night game in parnell with a full house for atmosphere. ask any of the die-hards they'll agree with me. but we ahve to play this annual charade in croke park it seems to suit other people's agenda. Like i said let the 2 best teams in the country open up the league as it should be. and we aren't in that bracket at the moment.
Thats not even the important point, if dublin end up losing badly -pressure is immeadiately on the new manager who i'm sure wasn't even asked as to whether he wanted such a fixture. Tyrone will have mulligan, o neill , mulgrew etc all back looking for places. We're trying to build a new team and this isn't the way to do it. But as i said before the DCB can only ever see euro signs and believe me they don't bloody well need it.
But to be quite honest, we dont even know who the next manager is, so until the manager is appointed and he says he would prefer the game to be played in Parnell, I dont see what the problem is.
HHNB - new manager was offered the job over four weeks ago now and unless there is a drastic U-turn, the only thing to be announced will be his selectors..
Brian Mullins ?????
Yes!
Mullins has turned it down according to the Irish Times today - too many other committments with UCD and St Vincents.
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Quote from: INDIANA on October 05, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
yes i will and i know quite a few others holiness from my club who are doing the same. fed up being used in this manner by the gaa. Nothing in the winter months beats a sat night game in parnell with a full house for atmosphere. ask any of the die-hards they'll agree with me. but we ahve to play this annual charade in croke park it seems to suit other people's agenda. Like i said let the 2 best teams in the country open up the league as it should be. and we aren't in that bracket at the moment.
Thats not even the important point, if dublin end up losing badly -pressure is immeadiately on the new manager who i'm sure wasn't even asked as to whether he wanted such a fixture. Tyrone will have mulligan, o neill , mulgrew etc all back looking for places. We're trying to build a new team and this isn't the way to do it. But as i said before the DCB can only ever see euro signs and believe me they don't bloody well need it.
But to be quite honest, we dont even know who the next manager is, so until the manager is appointed and he says he would prefer the game to be played in Parnell, I dont see what the problem is.
HHNB - new manager was offered the job over four weeks ago now and unless there is a drastic U-turn, the only thing to be announced will be his selectors..
Brian Mullins ?????
Yes!
Mullins has turned it down according to the Irish Times today - too many other committments with UCD and St Vincents.
That means he is the manager then !!
Brian Mullins has reportedly told the Dublin county board that he is not interested in succeeding Paul Caffrey as football manager.
The Dubs legend was hot favourite to land the job, but has apparently made it known that he does not want to be considered for the vacancy. His withdrawal from the race leaves the county board in something of a quandary with a November 3 deadline set for a candidate to be ratified. If Dublin fail to fill the position by then, there is a danger they would fall behind other counties in their preparations for 2009.
Former star defender Mick Deegan, who led the Dublin juniors to an All-Ireland success this year, is now likely to be installed as the new favourite for the post. Tomas O Flatharta's name continues to be linked with the role, despite the fact that he recently agreed to remain in charge of Westmeath for a fourth year.
I read in the Indo at the weekend that the job was Brian Mullins' ! He must have changed his mind !
Quote from: orangeman on October 07, 2008, 12:44:28 PM
I read in the Indo at the weekend that the job was Brian Mullins' ! He must have changed his mind !
He led them up the garden path again - similar reasons as last time that he's turned it down..
Quote from: heffo on October 07, 2008, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: orangeman on October 07, 2008, 12:44:28 PM
I read in the Indo at the weekend that the job was Brian Mullins' ! He must have changed his mind !
He led them up the garden path again - similar reasons as last time that he's turned it down..
What in the name a Jaysus is he after? Not like Pillar wasn't treated well or anything...
According to today's Gaelic Life, this game has definitely been fixed for the opening clash of the 2009 NFL, to be played under lights in Croke Park on Saturday, January 31st.
Anyone know when the fixtures will be released?
This has been confirmed.
Cue more moaning from Dubs ;D :D
I wonder will the league fixtures go steathly under the radar like last year. The fanfare made by the GAA about the national leagues has all the Oomph of a sneezing mouse.
Was it not a full house last year?
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on October 29, 2008, 03:53:28 PM
This has been confirmed.
Cue more moaning from Dubs ;D :D
Where did u see/hear about this????
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7697545.stm
Thanks, wonder if Wednesday when the announce the rest of the fixtures is today or next week...
Game on 31st Jan 09 ;D ;D
Quote from: EC Unique on October 30, 2008, 05:09:24 PM
Game on 31st Jan 09 ;D ;D
Trying to get official confirmation of this but cant find it anywhere.
I read that the dates and fixtures for NFL 2009 were to be announced yesterday.
Quote from: Gaffer on October 30, 2008, 05:51:38 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on October 30, 2008, 05:09:24 PM
Game on 31st Jan 09 ;D ;D
Trying to get official confirmation of this but cant find it anywhere.
I read that the dates and fixtures for NFL 2009 were to be announced yesterday.
You didn't look too hard... http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9954.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9954.0)
I looked for OFFICIAL confirmation on the GAA website and nothing on it.
Quote from: Gaffer on October 30, 2008, 06:18:54 PM
I looked for OFFICIAL confirmation on the GAA website and nothing on it.
oooh you want OFFICIAL confirmation eh? ::)
You will be waiting a while on whoever it is that updates the gaa.ie site.
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on October 30, 2008, 10:07:15 PM
You will be waiting a while on whoever it is that updates the gaa.ie site.
Indeed, the draft is the
de facto is the damned-sure-to-be-the-reality... barring catastrophe.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 31, 2008, 12:11:55 AM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on October 30, 2008, 10:07:15 PM
You will be waiting a while on whoever it is that updates the gaa.ie site.
Indeed, the draft is the de facto is the damned-sure-to-be-the-reality... barring catastrophe.
OK. I ll take the draft as being te actual then. Thanks.
Any word on when tickets are on sale, or how much they are? (Hoping to get a season ticket anyway, so price shouldn't matter, but best to check)
Quote from: drici on December 02, 2008, 09:37:06 AM
There'll be fireworks at this one.
I was reading Jarlath Burn's piece in the Irish News too. Holy Mother of God. After reading some of the stuff they have planned for that night, I wasn't sure if it was the Irish NFL or the American NFL I was reading about.
I guess HQ was watching the Olympic's opening ceremony in China this year...
Quote from: drici on December 02, 2008, 09:37:06 AM
There'll be fireworks at this one.
Actual fireworks or metaphorical fireworks?
You can't beat a big roman candle.
Quote from: Jinxy on December 02, 2008, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: drici on December 02, 2008, 09:37:06 AM
There'll be fireworks at this one.
Actual fireworks or metaphorical fireworks?
You can't beat a big roman candle.
Actual fireworks around the stadium. Inside and out. And several places in the surrounding area.
there are on sale now
http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004183E7965D55 (http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004183E7965D55)
Has anyone got tickets through ticketmaster ? I can't get through .
I hate buying tickets from those thieving gits.
Their handling charges per ticket it appalling
Can you buy them direct from Croker?
I must say I'm really looking forward to this game.
I found the programme of the 2004 meeting in Parnell Park where they gave us a great guard of honour and welcome and then proceeded to kick the bay jays*s outta us but before ye all come back at me AGAIN yeah I know it took two 2 tango and poor senan Conell got an awful hit.
To me though this was the start of the really bad blood between the two teams as naturally the attitude was we can bow down to the AI champs so lets give them a good old Parnell Park welcome.
It will be interesting to see will Dublin have a new style of play under their new manager as I think if they focussed on their own game and avoided all the hype (if that's possible) then I don't think they'll be far away next year again.
Wonder what colour their wee books will be next year?
Quote from: Fuzzman on December 05, 2008, 11:51:25 AM
I hate buying tickets from those thieving gits.
Their handling charges per ticket it appalling
Can you buy them direct from Croker?
I must say I'm really looking forward to this game.
I found the programme of the 2004 meeting in Parnell Park where they gave us a great guard of honour and welcome and then proceeded to kick the bay jays*s outta us but before ye all come back at me AGAIN yeah I know it took two 2 tango and poor senan Conell got an awful hit.
To me though this was the start of the really bad blood between the two teams as naturally the attitude was we can bow down to the AI champs so lets give them a good old Parnell Park welcome.
It will be interesting to see will Dublin have a new style of play under their new manager as I think if they focussed on their own game and avoided all the hype (if that's possible) then I don't think they'll be far away next year again.
Wonder what colour their wee books will be next year?
that was a shocking 'tackle' alright! Did anything happen to the culprit?? Puts Collie's tackle on the Westmeath lad into perspective. Sunday Game werent on that night then ;)
Quote from: Fuzzman on December 05, 2008, 11:51:25 AM
I hate buying tickets from those thieving gits.
Their handling charges per ticket it appalling
Can you buy them direct from Croker?
I must say I'm really looking forward to this game.
I found the programme of the 2004 meeting in Parnell Park where they gave us a great guard of honour and welcome and then proceeded to kick the bay jays*s outta us but before ye all come back at me AGAIN yeah I know it took two 2 tango and poor senan Conell got an awful hit.
To me though this was the start of the really bad blood between the two teams as naturally the attitude was we can bow down to the AI champs so lets give them a good old Parnell Park welcome.
It will be interesting to see will Dublin have a new style of play under their new manager as I think if they focussed on their own game and avoided all the hype (if that's possible) then I don't think they'll be far away next year again.
Wonder what colour their wee books will be next year?
Yeah I much prefer the Tyrone 'programme' of hitting hard and perfecting the choir boy look whilst able to successfully feign injury up the other end of the field to get fella's sent off.
Anyhoo, we got a nice Healy park welcome the following year with locked dressing rooms, cold water and a security detail/stewards to act the maggot - poor auld pensioner Dave Billings had to give one of them a slap sure..at least that fella remembered to clutch the correct part of his body when lying on the ground.
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Quote from: Fuzzman on December 05, 2008, 02:27:20 PM
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Oh no, don't tell me I've fallen into another WUM trap :o
dublin and tyrone another yawn of a game would you think the gaa would at least play two footballing teams under lights
WUM alert.....WUM alert. Yawn!!!!!
When was the last time the Dubs beat Tyrone in croker
Was it in the league during the late 90's or was in the 1995 AI Redmond?
Tried to book a room online in the Croke Jury's but seems to be booked out, unless you go down on the Fri night and home after the game.
Quote from: ONeill on December 09, 2008, 02:40:15 PM
Tried to book a room online in the Croke Jury's but seems to be booked out, unless you go down on the Fri night and home after the game.
Skylon has only 20 rooms left. €149.
Regency Hotel is €300 for the night.
Priced Croke Jury's a few days ago and there was room. €200 if memory serves me right.
Tried to buy season ticket last night but they're sold out, ourselves and the dubs only sell out so far! Have many posters got one?
Have 2 coming.
Some great value here lads
http://www.laterooms.com/en/k16837028_dublin-hotels.aspx?d=20090131&n=1&rt=0,0#quqdio (http://www.laterooms.com/en/k16837028_dublin-hotels.aspx?d=20090131&n=1&rt=0,0#quqdio)
No one for me and an xmas pressie for the wife. Thought they were great value.
Nice gesture by the GAA for this league opener for the start of the 125th Anniversary;
A chara,
In 2009 the GAA celebrates the 125th Anniversary of its founding.
One of the major events planned to celebrate this is the 125th Anniversary Spectacle on the night of the Allianz GAA Football National League game between Dublin and Tyrone. The match takes place on Saturday 31st January 2009 in Croke Park and there will be a number of supplementary attractions on the night, including a spectacular light show and fireworks display. The game itself will get underway at 7:30pm.
As Clubs are at the heart of the Association, it has been decided that all clubs will be entitled to 2 complimentary tickets for this special occasion.
In order to claim these 2 complimentary tickets your club must complete the form attached and return it by email.
Tickets are on-sale now via GAA.ie and will be distributed via the normal GAA channels in early January.
Is mise le meas,
Nicolas Ó' Braonáin
Uachtarán CLG
Any of the Dubs know if PP ticket holders are required to get tickets for this match or do we just flash our PP passes on the night?
I 'm going.
Booked 3 rooms in Jurys 2 months ago in anticipation of this match and have some family and friends coming down for it.
Got tickets this week in Lower Hogan.
Should be a great occasion!!!
Quote from: Hound on December 23, 2008, 09:30:47 AM
Any of the Dubs know if PP ticket holders are required to get tickets for this match or do we just flash our PP passes on the night?
Passes won't be accepted at gate - you'll get a ticket through Parnell using your pass..
Quote from: heffo on December 28, 2008, 04:20:04 PM
Quote from: Hound on December 23, 2008, 09:30:47 AM
Any of the Dubs know if PP ticket holders are required to get tickets for this match or do we just flash our PP passes on the night?
Passes won't be accepted at gate - you'll get a ticket through Parnell using your pass..
How do the Parnell passes work? They guarentee championship tickets don't they? Are they better value than the season ticket?
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 28, 2008, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: heffo on December 28, 2008, 04:20:04 PM
Quote from: Hound on December 23, 2008, 09:30:47 AM
Any of the Dubs know if PP ticket holders are required to get tickets for this match or do we just flash our PP passes on the night?
Passes won't be accepted at gate - you'll get a ticket through Parnell using your pass..
How do the Parnell passes work? They guarentee championship tickets don't they? Are they better value than the season ticket?
If you aren't involved with a club, they're pretty good. Free entry into all Dublin SFC games, NFL & NHL home games and a guaranteed championship ticket up to semi final.
guaranteed championship ticket heffo, including the final if we ever got there.
How many are they expecting for this game?
expecting a sellout, will depend on the weather as 35-40k kids are expected. Croke park wasn't built for matches on jan 31.
What a load of bollocks. And who's looking after these 40'000 kids?
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 10:43:28 AM
expecting a sellout, will depend on the weather as 35-40k kids are expected. Croke park wasn't built for matches on jan 31.
Whats this about with the Kids, Indiana?
are tickets still available, (or even out yet) - I might bring a rake of nephews to this game
O neill the last time it was sold out only because free tickets were given to the primary schools. It has no chance of selling out unless the same thing is repeated this time round. There was at least 25-30,000 kids at the last game.
Definitely will be a sell out. Our club has already 120 names down for tickets with list up for another 2 weeks or so.Usually get 200 odd tickets for each champo game so it seems that the hard core will be there, if our club is anything to go by.
Presume that Tyrone will bring 7/10,000 to the game and that the massive GAA support in Leinster will toddle in also as they (like me) will be mad keen to see the big games back.
Firstly we have the Blue Stars game in Kilbarrack which I hope to make.
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 29, 2008, 12:24:14 PM
are tickets still available, (or even out yet) - I might bring a rake of nephews to this game
On sale on Ticketmaster
Ideal Christmas pressie for the Dublin team.
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Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 12:34:48 PM
O neill the last time it was sold out only because free tickets were given to the primary schools. It has no chance of selling out unless the same thing is repeated this time round. There was at least 25-30,000 kids at the last game.
Really dont think thats true. There was huge hype about the last game with 10,000 tickets being sold through ticketmaster before christmas and the game being sold out days before the game. I remember being at the game and there's no way 35-40% of the people at it were school children. If its marketed right during the next month it will be another very successful night. Is there any word of any entertainment apart from the fire works? Are you one of the "this should be a home game for Dublin and not in Croke Park" brigade?
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Not sure if this has been answered, but does anyone know how the parnell pass holders are catered for for this game?
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.
I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.
Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....
tankie has explained my reasoning dreamer. I'm not really interested whether you like it or no, so I'm exercising my democratic right to be elsewhere on the 31st jan. Just another money making racket and probably two points down the swanny. As well as putting an inexperienced manager under immediate pressure by the almost inevitable defeat. I hope the DCB are happy.
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.
I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.
Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....
Are you against the GAA making money?
Damn those in charge of the gaa for trying to celebrate the 125th anniversary of the gaa! How dare they ask Dublin to be part pf it! I cant believe we're being used as well as the All Ireland champions to make money for the gaa (Dublin v Kilkenny etc could easily have sold out Croke Park instead), I'm going to boycott this as well. Why play this game in front of 80,000 in Croke Park and create a bit of hype for the start of the league and get school kids interested, those in charge of the gaa should be encouraging the school kids to stay at home that night and watch the premiership on RTE instead of being so selfish and moving it away from your favourite ground. Who put these guys in charge of running our games?
There seems to be a real chip on some Dublin fans shoulders. Those in charge of the gaa (including the county board) are interested in promoting the gaa and therefore maximising attendances. Its a no brainer to move a match 2 miles down the road where 70,000 extra may attend and huge hype will be created. I'm sure the players will also be proud to be part of such an occasion and its a good way for the Dublin management to see how new players react to such an occasion. Last August the problem was with which Saturday the game was, this time the problem is with the game being moved 2 miles - is it any wonder Dublin have problems winning big games if this is the attitude going about.
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.
I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.
Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....
How exactly are the gaa treating you like shite? How much extra is it going to cost you to attend this game than it was if it was in Parnell? They are trying to promote the games and attract as many people as possible to the game (including neutrals) and play it in one of the best stadiums in Europe. How exactly is that effecting you?
Are you serioulsy going to miss a Dublin match because of something Nicky Brennan said? Your going to deprive yourself of seeing Dublin in a big game over his remarks - thats a strange logic - I really cant see how you not going is going to have any impact on Nicky.
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.
I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.
Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....
I was thinking about your stance again and I'm even more confused now. As a Parnell pass holder dont you get in free for this game anyway? If so then this makes your stance even more ridiculous. If the gaa are only interested in milking you for money do you really think they'll care if you dont turn up when your entitled to a free ticket? Its a bit crazy when you think about it because if they are able to reallocate your ticket (I assume this happens if you dont collect yours) then it means they can make double money for one seat, so they will be more than happy if you guys dont turn up!
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.
I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.
Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....
How exactly are the gaa treating you like shite? How much extra is it going to cost you to attend this game than it was if it was in Parnell? They are trying to promote the games and attract as many people as possible to the game (including neutrals) and play it in one of the best stadiums in Europe. How exactly is that effecting you?
Are you serioulsy going to miss a Dublin match because of something Nicky Brennan said? Your going to deprive yourself of seeing Dublin in a big game over his remarks - thats a strange logic - I really cant see how you not going is going to have any impact on Nicky.
The GAA have no intention of promoting the league. Last year I didn't see or hear one Ad for the league. When they sell their 70k tickets for this game the league with be put on the back burner as normal.
When it suits the GAA is a stand alone game in January but come August the DCB has to practically beg for a stand alone game. Lets not forget the Friday game Ring cup final they proposed and then had it out side Croker.
Promoting the games, pull the other one will you .
Quote from: Gnevin on December 29, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.
I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.
Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....
How exactly are the gaa treating you like shite? How much extra is it going to cost you to attend this game than it was if it was in Parnell? They are trying to promote the games and attract as many people as possible to the game (including neutrals) and play it in one of the best stadiums in Europe. How exactly is that effecting you?
Are you serioulsy going to miss a Dublin match because of something Nicky Brennan said? Your going to deprive yourself of seeing Dublin in a big game over his remarks - thats a strange logic - I really cant see how you not going is going to have any impact on Nicky.
The GAA have no intention of promoting the league. Last year I didn't see or hear one Ad for the league. When they sell their 70k tickets for this game the league with be put on the back burner as normal.
When it suits the GAA is a stand alone game in January but come August the DCB has to practically beg for a stand alone game. Lets not forget the Friday game Ring cup final they proposed and then had it out side Croker.
Promoting the games, pull the other one will you .
Apparently they gave away 25-30,000 free tickets the last day. When you add that to the cost of opening up croke park and the additional entertainment costs then surely they wont be making that much extra out of it all together. This game is about the 125th Anniversary celebrations of the gaa, Dublin should be privelaged to be part of it.
The gaa in recent years have went out of their way to give Dublin stand alone games. Last year when you's got one you's cracked up becasue the Dublin team were geared up to play the previous Saturday - wonder how you's cope with replays when you's need months notice for a match. Even if this is just a one off promotion of the league, how does it mean they are treating you as a supporter like shit? How much extra are you being asked to pay to attend the game? Every county has more than one nominated county ground, Croke Park is a nominated county ground for Dublin were league games have been historically played. Tyrone have used 5 different county grounds this past decade with them being 30 miles apart and I havent heard any objections. Your county board who are in charge of gaa had no objection to the match and therefore it appears neither did the county management.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.
I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.
Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....
I was thinking about your stance again and I'm even more confused now. As a Parnell pass holder dont you get in free for this game anyway? If so then this makes your stance even more ridiculous. If the gaa are only interested in milking you for money do you really think they'll care if you dont turn up when your entitled to a free ticket? Its a bit crazy when you think about it because if they are able to reallocate your ticket (I assume this happens if you dont collect yours) then it means they can make double money for one seat, so they will be more than happy if you guys dont turn up!
That is why I said in my initial post that i am unsure what to do. I hve been talking to some of the other lads with the pass and if we do not go we will be collecting the tickets but not turning up to the game. I want to give the tickets to some local kids if we dont go but the lads say that defeats the protest so it could be 80k - 7 out on boycott!!!
Also this is nothing about the gaa promoting the league as Gnevin said and as for the 125 celebration i think that's bullshite aswell. its nothing more than the GAA milking the cash cow again where Dublin have to give up a home match!
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 09:43:06 PM
its nothing more than the GAA milking the cash cow again where Dublin have to give up a home match!
OK, so since Croke Park evidently isn't in Dublin, what county is it in, i.e., what county's supporters have a shorter distance to travel to it?
I honestly think I'd have the exact same view if Tyrone weren't involved in this. I'm shocked at the complaints and it really comes across as people complaining for the sake of it. Were you lads also in favour of boycotting the championship match? You's are mugs if you's are going to go out of your way to collect tickets for a game your not going to attend - as I said earlier your stance is stupid enough as it is without you's already having your tickets paid for.
And this craic about it not being a home match is nuts. The ground is a nominated county ground for Dublin and is in Dublin - off course its a home match. Does that mean you's didnt have home matches up until the late 90's when the games were moved from Croke Park?
Quote from: hardstation on December 29, 2008, 09:45:23 PM
Whoever is behind this protest movement comes across as a sad b**tard.
It's hardly a protest 'movement' - it's an individual supporter exercising his right to not attend the game for the reasons he outlined - all of which I personally agree with.
Quote from: hardstation on December 29, 2008, 09:58:47 PM
Well Tankie had to go to the "lads" about giving the tickets away to local kids but "that defeats the protest".
Sorry, just re-read Tankie's post - maybe he's taking it a little too far.
I've already posted my opinion on the first couple of pages and amn't going to repeat the reasons I'm against it - if it's the showpiece game of the 125th anniversary, it should involve the two AI finalists.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the game.
Me too.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 09:54:30 PM
I honestly think I'd have the exact same view if Tyrone weren't involved in this. I'm shocked at the complaints and it really comes across as people complaining for the sake of it. Were you lads also in favour of boycotting the championship match? You's are mugs if you's are going to go out of your way to collect tickets for a game your not going to attend - as I said earlier your stance is stupid enough as it is without you's already having your tickets paid for.
And this craic about it not being a home match is nuts. The ground is a nominated county ground for Dublin and is in Dublin - off course its a home match. Does that mean you's didnt have home matches up until the late 90's when the games were moved from Croke Park?
Grand since it now Dublin's home ground ,I assume we now have total control of Croker . So we will get all the revenue for it even when Dublin aren't playing ?
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 12:10:14 AM
Grand since it now Dublin's home ground ,I assume we now have total control of Croker . So we will get all the revenue for it even when Dublin aren't playing ?
Exactly the same percentage that other counties get when their own counties aren't playing in their grounds, fair enough? Or do you want something special in that respect too?
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on December 29, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: Tankie on December 29, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 29, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
Absolutely I am,hence the reason why I'm staying at home.
Whats your exact reason for boycotting the game? There seems to be a bit of a trend with Dublin fans boycotting Tyrone games. The last time you's were going to stay at home for the quarter final because it was being played on the wrong Saturday. This time its because the game is a mile or 2 away from were you's would like it to be in one the best stadiums in Europe. Your county board are happy for it to be in Croke Park and there's been no complaint from the management, what exactly is the problem here? You's dont complain when every other county in Ireland is expected to go to Dublin to play you's in Croke Park in the championship.
I want to boycott the game but i have a ticket through the Parnell pass thing so not sure what to do. This game should be in PP as it is a league game that we have given up home advantage for. Also I'm sick of the gaa treating me like a shite and then milking the cash cow when they want a few million.
Nicky Brennan pissed me of most when he said they could sell out a semi final without Dublin fans but he failed to see that the only reason the semi final was gonna sell out was because the opposition was Dublin....
How exactly are the gaa treating you like shite? How much extra is it going to cost you to attend this game than it was if it was in Parnell? They are trying to promote the games and attract as many people as possible to the game (including neutrals) and play it in one of the best stadiums in Europe. How exactly is that effecting you?
Are you serioulsy going to miss a Dublin match because of something Nicky Brennan said? Your going to deprive yourself of seeing Dublin in a big game over his remarks - thats a strange logic - I really cant see how you not going is going to have any impact on Nicky.
The GAA have no intention of promoting the league. Last year I didn't see or hear one Ad for the league. When they sell their 70k tickets for this game the league with be put on the back burner as normal.
When it suits the GAA is a stand alone game in January but come August the DCB has to practically beg for a stand alone game. Lets not forget the Friday game Ring cup final they proposed and then had it out side Croker.
Promoting the games, pull the other one will you .
Apparently they gave away 25-30,000 free tickets the last day. When you add that to the cost of opening up croke park and the additional entertainment costs then surely they wont be making that much extra out of it all together. This game is about the 125th Anniversary celebrations of the gaa, Dublin should be privelaged to be part of it.
The gaa in recent years have went out of their way to give Dublin stand alone games. Last year when you's got one you's cracked up becasue the Dublin team were geared up to play the previous Saturday - wonder how you's cope with replays when you's need months notice for a match. Even if this is just a one off promotion of the league, how does it mean they are treating you as a supporter like shit? How much extra are you being asked to pay to attend the game? Every county has more than one nominated county ground, Croke Park is a nominated county ground for Dublin were league games have been historically played. Tyrone have used 5 different county grounds this past decade with them being 30 miles apart and I havent heard any objections. Your county board who are in charge of gaa had no objection to the match and therefore it appears neither did the county management.
When it suit you lot it our home ground other times if a Dub has the cheek to suggest its Dublin ground they get run out of town.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on December 30, 2008, 12:14:06 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 12:10:14 AM
Grand since it now Dublin's home ground ,I assume we now have total control of Croker . So we will get all the revenue for it even when Dublin aren't playing ?
Exactly the same percentage that other counties get when their own counties aren't playing in their grounds, fair enough? Or do you want something special in that respect too?
That is fine since we get 0% now, and of course since it our ground now will we get 100% of the other sports money, the cooperate money and first refusal on fixtures .
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 12:16:32 AM
That is fine since we get 0% now, and of course since it our ground now will we get 100% of the other sports money, the cooperate money and first refusal on fixtures .
How about you all just get over yourselves and just be glad that you have the biggest stadium in the whole country just down the road, closer than anyone else, and one that you all famously fill when Dublin come within a sniff of SAM?
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on December 30, 2008, 12:19:57 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 12:16:32 AM
That is fine since we get 0% now, and of course since it our ground now will we get 100% of the other sports money, the cooperate money and first refusal on fixtures .
How about you all just get over yourselves and just be glad that you have the biggest stadium in the whole country just down the road, closer than anyone else, and one that you all famously fill when Dublin come within a sniff of SAM?
:D
Bring it to Parnell, and then bring all their championship home games to Parnell. Then watch the uproar as a shortage of tickets means tens of 1000s are unable to attend. The Dubs demand Croke when it suits them.
Quote from: ONeill on December 30, 2008, 12:22:23 AM
Bring it to Parnell, and then bring all their championship home games to Parnell. Then watch the uproar as a shortage of tickets means tens of 1000s are unable to attend. The Dubs demand Croke when it suits them.
I am tired of hearing/reading them yap!
I can see the reasoning behind lads being annoyed at it being in Croker but the DCB agreed (with management's approval I presume) so we should get on with it and see how we do.
I cant see it selling out. As far as I can tell, the expectation is low for this match and our season. I presume tickets will be given to schools etc, maybe get a big enough crowd then. BTW, regarding the PP ticket, at the last one, you went to Parnell the Tuesday before and got your ticket. Presume its the same this time.
Agree with Heffo, why are Tyrone and Kerry not playing? The two best teams in the Champo. Im sure the game could of been moved to the afternoon to allow easier travel for fans - just makes the cash cow argument a little stronger when its a quarter finalist against winner rather than winner against runner up.
Tyrone v Kerry would be crap. Since when did Kerry folk care about the league?
Dublin is where the needle is. Everyone loves beating Dublin as the Dubs usually makes eejits out of themselves. Makes great TV.
Quote from: ONeill on December 30, 2008, 12:33:21 AM
Tyrone v Kerry would be crap. Since when did Kerry folk care about the league?
Dublin is where the needle is. Everyone loves beating Dublin as the Dubs usually makes eejits out of themselves. Makes great TV.
Spot on.
Nah, wer're getting better at it in recent years. We can take defeat better than most ;)
Seriously, why not Kerry v Tyrone?
Quote from: Buttofthehill on December 30, 2008, 12:41:08 AM
Seriously, why not Kerry v Tyrone?
As before, it wouldn't pull much of a crowd. Shadow-boxing with half a team so soon after the real deal isn't appealing. It'd be like sitting down to mash and fish fingers after a 3-Michelin Star 5-course meal of your choice.
Beating Kerry (or vice versa) in January would only bring mild satisfaction. You know that if the Jackeens win they'd probably go berserk and give interviews about climbing the steps in September.
Quote from: ONeill on December 30, 2008, 12:33:21 AM
Tyrone v Kerry would be crap. Since when did Kerry folk care about the league?
Dublin is where the needle is. Everyone loves beating Dublin as the Dubs usually makes eejits out of themselves. Makes great TV.
::)
And if we say 31v1 we are told to wise up .
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on December 30, 2008, 12:19:57 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 12:16:32 AM
That is fine since we get 0% now, and of course since it our ground now will we get 100% of the other sports money, the cooperate money and first refusal on fixtures .
How about you all just get over yourselves and just be glad that you have the biggest stadium in the whole country just down the road, closer than anyone else, and one that you all famously fill when Dublin come within a sniff of SAM?
No problem now that we own Croker we will make use of it . How much do you think an AI will get the DCB? I think Dublin should play hard ball with the GAA since Croker is pretty much the only show in town.
I haven't read all the posts in this thread but I cannot understand the objections of any Dublin supporter to this game being played in Croke Park. I realise Dublin posters have to listen to a fair amount of BS on this board from lads who are on the wind up, hate the Dubs or just haven't a clue but this game in Croke Park is a win win situation and most importantly benefits the whole GAA organisation.
Quote from: Zulu on December 30, 2008, 01:40:43 AM
I haven't read all the posts in this thread but I cannot understand the objections of any Dublin supporter to this game being played in Croke Park. I realise Dublin posters have to listen to a fair amount of BS on this board from lads who are on the wind up, hate the Dubs or just haven't a clue but this game in Croke Park is a win win situation and most importantly benefits the whole GAA organisation.
If it such a Win-Win why didnt the TCB give up a home game ? Surely that would be fair play as Dublin did so the last time . The fact of the matter is of these game the record stands at played 2 , lost 2 .
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 01:42:27 AM
Quote from: Zulu on December 30, 2008, 01:40:43 AM
I haven't read all the posts in this thread but I cannot understand the objections of any Dublin supporter to this game being played in Croke Park. I realise Dublin posters have to listen to a fair amount of BS on this board from lads who are on the wind up, hate the Dubs or just haven't a clue but this game in Croke Park is a win win situation and most importantly benefits the whole GAA organisation.
If it such a Win-Win why didnt the TCB give up a home game ? Surely that would be fair play as Dublin did so the last time . The fact of the matter is of these game the record stands at played 2 , lost 2 .
Exactly, the only reason Dublin fans are complaining is because of footballing reasons due to home advantage being given up. But the GAA dont care about that when they can milk the cash cow....
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 01:42:27 AM
Quote from: Zulu on December 30, 2008, 01:40:43 AM
I haven't read all the posts in this thread but I cannot understand the objections of any Dublin supporter to this game being played in Croke Park. I realise Dublin posters have to listen to a fair amount of BS on this board from lads who are on the wind up, hate the Dubs or just haven't a clue but this game in Croke Park is a win win situation and most importantly benefits the whole GAA organisation.
If it such a Win-Win why didnt the TCB give up a home game ? Surely that would be fair play as Dublin did so the last time . The fact of the matter is of these game the record stands at played 2 , lost 2 .
They weren't asked to. But I'd say it wouldn't be a problem, if we get the receipts from the programmes, as the home county normally would, and we're allowed to run a half time draw like St Enda's would in Omagh to cover the "ground rent"
Can we at least agree that this is just the GAA rolling out its cash cow once again but come championship the DCB will be told that they are no better than any other county board and every team should play in Croke Park and Dublin will have to move to suit every other county.
Quote from: Tankie on December 30, 2008, 02:04:49 AM
Can we at least agree that this is just the GAA rolling out its cash cow once again
I agree totally, anyone trying to spin it any other way is either being naive or disingenuous.
Quotebut come championship the DCB will be told that they are no better than any other county board and every team should play in Croke Park and Dublin will have to move to suit every other county.
Ah come on, in the last 10 years how many times have Dublin played outside Croke Park in the Championship- v Longford in Pearse Park, v Derry in Clones and v Kerry in Thurles. Have I missed any?
Quote from: tyrone86 on December 30, 2008, 02:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tankie on December 30, 2008, 02:04:49 AM
Can we at least agree that this is just the GAA rolling out its cash cow once again
I agree totally, anyone trying to spin it any other way is either being naive or disingenuous.
Quotebut come championship the DCB will be told that they are no better than any other county board and every team should play in Croke Park and Dublin will have to move to suit every other county.
Ah come on, in the last 10 years how many times have Dublin played outside Croke Park in the Championship- v Longford in Pearse Park, v Derry in Clones and v Kerry in Thurles. Have I missed any?
Yes but how many times were Dublin made share the stadium or told they must move the fixture even tho they had been given a date to play.
Lads yer not seriously trying to say that all the fuss is because ye can't beat Tyrone in Croke Park, how do ye expect to win the AI if ye can't beat the big teams in Croke Park? Dublin are the GAA's major cash cow and should be 'milked' when we can as that money goes to help the GAA as a whole and what is the problem with that? I agree that on occassion the Dubs have been poorly treated but the GAA has to try and keep everyone happy but this is an impossible goal.
Quote from: tyrone86 on December 30, 2008, 02:12:19 AM
Quote from: Tankie on December 30, 2008, 02:04:49 AM
Can we at least agree that this is just the GAA rolling out its cash cow once again
I agree totally, anyone trying to spin it any other way is either being naive or disingenuous.
Quotebut come championship the DCB will be told that they are no better than any other county board and every team should play in Croke Park and Dublin will have to move to suit every other county.
Ah come on, in the last 10 years how many times have Dublin played outside Croke Park in the Championship- v Longford in Pearse Park, v Derry in Clones and v Kerry in Thurles. Have I missed any?
V Wexford in Carlow in 2002.
Quote from: Buttofthehill on December 30, 2008, 12:41:08 AM
Nah, wer're getting better at it in recent years. We can take defeat better than most ;)
Seriously, why not Kerry v Tyrone?
Ok here are just a few reasons why its not Tyrone v Kerry:
1) Just like every other year Tyrone v Dublin is the 1st game of league due to the system in place. It makes sense for the league to be launched with a big game - wouldnt make sense waiting to the second game.
2) Dublin has a population of over 1 million compared to Kerry's 140,000. Of course it makes sense to have a county with such a huge population involved in the game as it is much more likely to sell out.
3) The last time I looked Tyrone or Kerry doesnt have one of the best stadiums in Europe with a capacity of 83,000.
4) Kerry and Tyrone are over 300 miles apart whereas Dublin and Tyrone are just over 100 miles apart.
If anyone should be moaning it should be Tyrone families who are being asked to make a 250 mile round trip on a Saturday night in January with the prospect of not getting home til after midnight. The Dublin county board is happy with the match, the Dublin players are happy with the match, the majority of Dublin supporters are happy with the match (as was shown with a sell out crowd the last time) - would you lads get over yourselves and stopping coming up with ridiculous reasons for boycotting games.
Zulu you obviously never read my post. I was expecting the stream of vitriol, so I'm not going to respond to the indvidual insults But my reasons for not going are thus:
1- I enjoy the league games in Parnell. Its a welcome change from Croke Park . We've a good record there and its a cracking atmosphere there on a Sat night much better than Croke Park will be on the 31st.
2- If its a game celebrating the 125 th anniversary, it should be tyrone and kerry. We have no business being there after last year. We are not in the top 4 never mind the top 2.
3- Tired of being used as a cash cow for the Gaa. Its a such a hypocritical move from an organisation that never promoted the national league that it uses a one off game every 3 years to revive the 2nd most important inter county competition. They never promote it on any consistent basis except with these ridiculous one off events. We lose home advantage that everyone else gets, why?
4- The management are from my club, this is a 50/50 call. IF Dublin lose which is quite likely then they are under immediate pressure. Vincents are universally loathed and detested throughout Dublin. There are a lot of people in Dublin waiting in the long grass on this one. A parnell park defeat wouldn't raise an eyebrow nationally and locally the level of discontent would be smaller. Dublin are in a rebuilding phase, they need this profile of a game like a hole in the head. The DCB once again, instead of looking at the big picture just saw the euros.
I didn't sign a contract as a Gaa fan that I have to attend on the 31st. We all have our own reasons for doing things and I'm staying at home on this one. We have no business being there. We are not good enough to be there at the moment.
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 01:25:58 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on December 30, 2008, 12:19:57 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 12:16:32 AM
That is fine since we get 0% now, and of course since it our ground now will we get 100% of the other sports money, the cooperate money and first refusal on fixtures .
How about you all just get over yourselves and just be glad that you have the biggest stadium in the whole country just down the road, closer than anyone else, and one that you all famously fill when Dublin come within a sniff of SAM?
No problem now that we own Croker we will make use of it . How much do you think an AI will get the DCB? I think Dublin should play hard ball with the GAA since Croker is pretty much the only show in town.
From what I can see the use of croke park is similar to that of Clones for ulster championship matches. Monaghan play there big league games in Clones and I have yet to here them come out with this nonesense about it not being a home game or come championship demanding exlusive use of it - they recognise the Ulster Council helped fund its development.
Croke Park is in Dublin and its a home game. Come championship you's play 90% of your games there and its rare you's are asked to play a double header when demand exceeds supply. Yet you's cant expect special treatment for "neutral" championship matches when playing during the summer when you's are already getting the advantage of playing at a Dublin venue developed by central funds.
its not a home venue its a neutral venue. You deem it a home venue by association rather than fact. We often have to play double headers there when it would be more financially viable to do otherwise. So don't start giving us this load of bollocks where the association have the financial viability of the association at heart when promoting charades like the 31st. In the summer they can't wait to deny Dublin a stand alone game when they could generate millions more for the association . Double standards and we're sick of them.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 12:52:30 PM
its not a home venue its a neutral venue. You deem it a home venue by association rather than fact. We often have to play double headers there when it would be more financially viable to do otherwise. So don't start giving us this load of bollocks where the association have the financial viability of the association at heart when promoting charades like the 31st. In the summer they can't wait to deny Dublin a stand alone game when they could generate millions more for the association . Double standards and we're sick of them.
1) The game is in Dublin so its hardly a neutral venue.
2) You's are happy to play your home championship matches in Croke Park.
3) Prior to the late 90's were did Dublin play there home league games? Are you seriously trying to say that Dublin's home league games were played at a neutral venue up until the move to Parnell Park?
4) If Parnell Park is such a fortress how many division 1 league finals have you's reached since the move there? Were you's not playing out of Croke Park the last time you's reached a Division 1 final?
5) The gaa the last 2 years have went out of the way to give you's stand alone quarter finals with fixtures being moved around to accomadate it - you's may have doubled up with a hurling game that would only have attracted a couple of thousand max. No other county in Ireland gets a home county quarter final so if anything you's get an unfair advantage and your fans are saved a lot of hassle.
6) Croke Park is were you's play your summer football so it makes sense for new players to get used to it.
7) Dublin and its members are part of the gaa. Its not you's v the gaa, we're all the one organisation and the money generated from the matches benefits the whole organisation.
1- wembley is in london. Does that mean an fa cup final involving arsenal is a home game for them as well?
2- We're happy to play championship matches to in croke park, because we're fixed to play there. You guys who care so much about the financial viability of the association should be glad we do.
3- Dublin league games in the 90's were played in croke park , they couldn't be played in parnell park because it was a cow shed. We had no venue to play the games. Anyone who was present in croke park at these games like I was will agree we had no advantage as the opposition had more fans than we had!
4- the reason why we haven't reached a div 1 final is twofold
a) we haven't been good enough
b) previous management used to train the bollocks off the team prior to some games which we lost and cost us any chance. We may have lost anyway, but as said previous 95% of these defeats were on the road. We've a very good record in parnell.
5- They've denied us stand alone games in the qualifiers before that could have generated millions for the association. That is a cast iron fact. They cost the association millions of euros by not doing so. So you'll forgive the more cynical of us when we listen to the argument "Oh think of the money it could it generate playing a one-off fixture in a welter of glitz and glamour in a competition that the association has no consistent approach to marketing" Laughable.
6- I don't think dublin's problem as been not been used to Croke park! Just haven't been good enough.
7- Back to the money argument. As I've said above if the GAA is so concerned about using Dublin to bankroll the association. Then why can't we play all our championship fixtures there? And before anyone starts the Dublin can't play outside Croke Park. Dublin's record on the road in the championship is excellent. and anyone who wants to dispute that should have a look at it.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 01:20:34 PM
1- wembley is in london. Does that mean an fa cup final involving arsenal is a home game for them as well?
2- We're happy to play championship matches to in croke park, because we're fixed to play there. You guys who care so much about the financial viability of the association should be glad we do.
3- Dublin league games in the 90's were played in croke park , they couldn't be played in parnell park because it was a cow shed. We had no venue to play the games. Anyone who was present in croke park at these games like I was will agree we had no advantage as the opposition had more fans than we had!
4- the reason why we haven't reached a div 1 final is twofold
a) we haven't been good enough
b) previous management used to train the bollocks off the team prior to some games which we lost and cost us any chance. We may have lost anyway, but as said previous 95% of these defeats were on the road. We've a very good record in parnell.
5- They've denied us stand alone games in the qualifiers before that could have generated millions for the association. That is a cast iron fact. They cost the association millions of euros by not doing so. So you'll forgive the more cynical of us when we listen to the argument "Oh think of the money it could it generate playing a one-off fixture in a welter of glitz and glamour in a competition that the association has no consistent approach to marketing" Laughable.
6- I don't think dublin's problem as been not been used to Croke park! Just haven't been good enough.
7- Back to the money argument. As I've said above if the GAA is so concerned about using Dublin to bankroll the association. Then why can't we play all our championship fixtures there? And before anyone starts the Dublin can't play outside Croke Park. Dublin's record on the road in the championship is excellent. and anyone who wants to dispute that should have a look at it.
I'll be at the match but I agree totally with this.
Croke Park is owned by GAA HQ and as such should be used for the benefit of the association as a whole.
It is also located in Dublin and as such is a perfectly logical place for Dublin to play home games.
Those are both undeniable statements of fact and are the crux of the arguement. I really can;t see what some Dubs are yapping about.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 01:20:34 PM
1- wembley is in london. Does that mean an fa cup final involving arsenal is a home game for them as well?
2- We're happy to play championship matches to in croke park, because we're fixed to play there. You guys who care so much about the financial viability of the association should be glad we do.
3- Dublin league games in the 90's were played in croke park , they couldn't be played in parnell park because it was a cow shed. We had no venue to play the games. Anyone who was present in croke park at these games like I was will agree we had no advantage as the opposition had more fans than we had!
4- the reason why we haven't reached a div 1 final is twofold
a) we haven't been good enough
b) previous management used to train the bollocks off the team prior to some games which we lost and cost us any chance. We may have lost anyway, but as said previous 95% of these defeats were on the road. We've a very good record in parnell.
5- They've denied us stand alone games in the qualifiers before that could have generated millions for the association. That is a cast iron fact. They cost the association millions of euros by not doing so. So you'll forgive the more cynical of us when we listen to the argument "Oh think of the money it could it generate playing a one-off fixture in a welter of glitz and glamour in a competition that the association has no consistent approach to marketing" Laughable.
6- I don't think dublin's problem as been not been used to Croke park! Just haven't been good enough.
7- Back to the money argument. As I've said above if the GAA is so concerned about using Dublin to bankroll the association. Then why can't we play all our championship fixtures there? And before anyone starts the Dublin can't play outside Croke Park. Dublin's record on the road in the championship is excellent. and anyone who wants to dispute that should have a look at it.
I fully agree Indiana, I'm heading down to my club later and will be seeing what people make of the game in Croker. I know some of the lads were not too happy when the move was first suggested but we will see what the mood is now and if people are still considering not requesting tickets.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 30, 2008, 01:46:03 PM
Croke Park is owned by GAA HQ and as such should be used for the benefit of the association as a whole.
It is also located in Dublin and as such is a perfectly logical place for Dublin to play home games.
Those are both undeniable statements of fact and are the crux of the arguement. I really can;t see what some Dubs are yapping about.
The crux of my argument is would it not be in the benefit of the GAA to see an even entertaining game between the best two teams in the country rather than a one sided slaughtering like last August?
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 01:20:34 PM
1- wembley is in london. Does that mean an fa cup final involving arsenal is a home game for them as well?
2- We're happy to play championship matches to in croke park, because we're fixed to play there. You guys who care so much about the financial viability of the association should be glad we do.
3- Dublin league games in the 90's were played in croke park , they couldn't be played in parnell park because it was a cow shed. We had no venue to play the games. Anyone who was present in croke park at these games like I was will agree we had no advantage as the opposition had more fans than we had!
4- the reason why we haven't reached a div 1 final is twofold
a) we haven't been good enough
b) previous management used to train the bollocks off the team prior to some games which we lost and cost us any chance. We may have lost anyway, but as said previous 95% of these defeats were on the road. We've a very good record in parnell.
5- They've denied us stand alone games in the qualifiers before that could have generated millions for the association. That is a cast iron fact. They cost the association millions of euros by not doing so. So you'll forgive the more cynical of us when we listen to the argument "Oh think of the money it could it generate playing a one-off fixture in a welter of glitz and glamour in a competition that the association has no consistent approach to marketing" Laughable.
6- I don't think dublin's problem as been not been used to Croke park! Just haven't been good enough.
7- Back to the money argument. As I've said above if the GAA is so concerned about using Dublin to bankroll the association. Then why can't we play all our championship fixtures there? And before anyone starts the Dublin can't play outside Croke Park. Dublin's record on the road in the championship is excellent. and anyone who wants to dispute that should have a look at it.
1) Your talking about a different sport with a different situation/history. There is 100's of clubs in London compared to one county team in Dublin. Dublin use Croke Park for home championship matches and historically for league games so its a different situation to Arsenals.
2) Of course you's are happy to play championship matches in Croke Park -its a Dublin venue and cuts out travel. We'd be happy enough to play all our matches in any venue in Tyrone including All Ireland finals.
3) So Croke Park was a home venue in the 90's but now its a neutral one only for the league and only a home one for home championship games - that seems a strange logic.
4) You's have a decent record in Parnell but have lost plenty of games to. Wonder if you compared your record in Croke Park to Parnell over the last 4 year which would be better. Dont think its going to make a huge diffence to the outcome if its Parnell or Croke. Tyrone have one in both venues this decade in league games.
5) What qualifier matches are you referring to? I remember a Tyrone v Laois and Roscommon v Dublin header which didnt come close to selling out Croke Park so you's wouldnt have needed a stand alone game. You's havent even played in the qualifiers the last 4 years so Im not sure what the problem is here.
6) If you's arent good enough what difference does it matter were the game is played?
7) This money arguement is a joke. There is over a million people in Dublin of course more money will be made from it, just like more money will be spent on it. Dublin people should be happy with the money generated from the local econcomy through big games which other counties arent benefiting from. I love this I'm sick of us being used as a cashcow line - your giving the gaa no more I assume than any other member round the country. We all pay the same admission prices, we all pay the same for tops etc. Your not bankrolling the association any more than I am. If anyone is being used its the glory supporters who dont normally attend games to generate a bit of money. How much is it costing you for the game to be moved to Croke Park?
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 30, 2008, 01:46:03 PM
Croke Park is owned by GAA HQ and as such should be used for the benefit of the association as a whole.
It is also located in Dublin and as such is a perfectly logical place for Dublin to play home games.
Those are both undeniable statements of fact and are the crux of the arguement. I really can;t see what some Dubs are yapping about.
Is RDS and Landsdowne road also a Dublin home ground?
it'll be a full house one way or the other tankie. I'll be interested to know Nicky's Brennans 3 year plan on how to market the National leagues more effectively after the game. Unfortunately this morning I was led to believe it is among the world's shortest books.
1- Its not really a different situation. Its the same principle. dublin is the capital of ireland so the stadium is situated there by virtue of that fact. It was never built exclusively for Dublin Gaa.
2- looks like your agreeing with me.
3- It was never a home venue in the 90's. It was like playing matches away from home. Anybody who was at these games will agree. even the hill was only half full. It was more an endighment of dublin gaa that we had no alternative venue.
4- You haven't looked at our record in parnell in recent years. I'll put it up if you want. Beating louth in croke park hardly equates to beating a quality div1 team in parnell. I' d say the records are pretty similar if you take the standard of opposition into account. Its our away league form that is brutal.
5- Dublin v armagh 2003 was one. dublin v derry in clones in 2003 was silly. would have got 60k .kerry v dublin in 2004 was the most ridiculous. I'm not complaining but people who are throwing out the financial argument for the 31st fail to see the hypocrisy of the GAA in this one.
6- makes a big difference for an inexperienced manager.
7- you hjaven't even read my argument on the finances to give an answer like that. I'll repeat again , if the GAA is so concerned about the financial pulling power of the DUBS why isn't every championship game in croke park involving them a stand alone fixture. If you want to maximise the economic relality of the situation, why the hypocrisy? You're happy to se the dublin fans to fill your coffers in january but fail to maximise their economic pulling power in the summer because they are from Dublin. Laughable.
Quote from: Gnevin on December 30, 2008, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 30, 2008, 01:46:03 PM
Croke Park is owned by GAA HQ and as such should be used for the benefit of the association as a whole.
It is also located in Dublin and as such is a perfectly logical place for Dublin to play home games.
Those are both undeniable statements of fact and are the crux of the arguement. I really can;t see what some Dubs are yapping about.
Is RDS and Landsdowne road also a Dublin home ground?
So now you're suggesting pitches that physically can't hold Gaelic football. This arguement gets more and more bizarre.
Any gaelic football pitch in Dublin is acceptable as a Dublin home venue. Its fairly simple logic.
I thought the GAA did not need Dublin???? Does anyone want to change their vote?
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=4352.0
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 02:15:56 PM
it'll be a full house one way or the other tankie. I'll be interested to know Nicky's Brennans 3 year plan on how to market the National leagues more effectively after the game. Unfortunately this morning I was led to believe it is among the world's shortest books.
1- Its not really a different situation. Its the same principle. dublin is the capital of ireland so the stadium is situated there by virtue of that fact. It was never built exclusively for Dublin Gaa.
2- looks like your agreeing with me.
3- It was never a home venue in the 90's. It was like playing matches away from home. Anybody who was at these games will agree. even the hill was only half full. It was more an endighment of dublin gaa that we had no alternative venue.
4- You haven't looked at our record in parnell in recent years. I'll put it up if you want. Beating louth in croke park hardly equates to beating a quality div1 team in parnell. I' d say the records are pretty similar if you take the standard of opposition into account. Its our away league form that is brutal.
5- Dublin v armagh 2003 was one. dublin v derry in clones in 2003 was silly. would have got 60k .kerry v dublin in 2004 was the most ridiculous. I'm not complaining but people who are throwing out the financial argument for the 31st fail to see the hypocrisy of the GAA in this one.
6- makes a big difference for an inexperienced manager.
7- you hjaven't even read my argument on the finances to give an answer like that. I'll repeat again , if the GAA is so concerned about the financial pulling power of the DUBS why isn't every championship game in croke park involving them a stand alone fixture. If you want to maximise the economic relality of the situation, why the hypocrisy? You're happy to se the dublin fans to fill your coffers in january but fail to maximise their economic pulling power in the summer because they are from Dublin. Laughable.
1) It is a different situation because Arsenal have never used Wembley as their home stadiums and dont play all there big games in it out of choice.
3) Ok the home games in the early 90's were away matches because they were in Croke Park. Im not even going to try and argue with that logic.
4) Yes I agree your record in Parnell and Croke is probably similar. Therefore what difference does it make which field this game is played on as there is no advantage either way for Dublin?
5) There was 63,143 at that Armagh double header in 2003. How can you possibly complain about not getting a stand alone fixture for a game that didnt come close to selling out. You's also cant expect to play 100% championship games in croke park. No one gets a 100% home fixtures no matter were they play there league fixtures.
7) Dublin play 90% of there championship matches in Croke Park. No other county gets this advantage. Its unfair enough already putting all your neutral games there without complaining when one or 2 are moved in a decade.
1- We don't play our home games out of choice in Croke park. We are fixed by the association to play there. As i said previously our record is pretty good outside croke park. But it isn't our home stadium , thats a figment of your imagination.
2- As I said earlier Croke Park is a neutral venue that happens to be situated in Dublin. It was not built by the DCB. I'm sorry if thats difficult to understand but to most people it isn't. I would imagine Healy Park was built by the Tyrone County Board. Parnell Park was built by the DCB and is our home ground. The penny will drop at some point.
3- We're entitled to home advantage as all other counties. This gives up our home advantage. We need all the help we can get against tyrone. We don't want special arrangements. Let Tyrone and Kerry play in croke park.
4- We've played one home fixture against london since the inception of the current qualifiers series. Every other game has been at a neutal venue. So thats not an argument.
There was 20,000 spare capacity in that game in 2003 because we got a limited allocation of tickets. Had it been a stand alone, it would have been a sellout. Similar to the game in 2004. You can't have it both ways. You can't expect us to bump attendance figues for the charade on the 31st to boost the finances of the association and then turn around in summer and say well we don't want to boost the assoication's coffers anymore because we don't want you to have an advantage? So we give up home advantage for a league game and get f**k all in return in the championship season when people can't get tickets. In other words they use Dublin for their own purposes and then tell them to f**k off when the occasion demands it. Its hypocrisy of the highest order. We get screwed at both ends and get nothing back from them.
It stems from the culchie complex within the higher echelons of the Gaa. Dublin hasn't had a President of the Association since the 1920's simply because the corridors of power are inherently against the thought of any Dub being present there. Hence the reason a lot of these plonkers like Brennan and Co use Dublin as bouncing ball to bounce up and down whenever they get bored. You only have to look at the strategic review recently to see that.
Quote3- We're entitled to home advantage as all other counties. This gives up our home advantage. We need all the help we can get against tyrone. We don't want special arrangements. Let Tyrone and Kerry play in croke park.
Dublin are playing
Tyrone in
Dublin. This is a home advantage. This really shouldn't be that difficult to understand.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 30, 2008, 05:30:08 PM
Quote3- We're entitled to home advantage as all other counties. This gives up our home advantage. We need all the help we can get against tyrone. We don't want special arrangements. Let Tyrone and Kerry play in croke park.
Dublin are playing Tyrone in Dublin. This is a home advantage. This really shouldn't be that difficult to understand.
Oh but it is. When the same guys are arguing that there home league games in Croke Park used to be away one's you probably should know your wastimg your time.
No i said neutral ones. Because we had no home venue we had to give up home advantage.
The problem up north I find is that a) a lot of you don't actually read people's posts and b) seem to speak a different dialect when it comes to English. I'm fluent in Irish so I'm happy to go as Gaelige if it means we can converse in a language we both understand.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 02:15:56 PM
it'll be a full house one way or the other tankie. I'll be interested to know Nicky's Brennans 3 year plan on how to market the National leagues more effectively after the game. Unfortunately this morning I was led to believe it is among the world's shortest books.
1- Its not really a different situation. Its the same principle. dublin is the capital of ireland so the stadium is situated there by virtue of that fact. It was never built exclusively for Dublin Gaa.
2- looks like your agreeing with me.
3- It was never a home venue in the 90's. It was like playing matches away from home. Anybody who was at these games will agree. even the hill was only half full. It was more an endighment of dublin gaa that we had no alternative venue.
4- You haven't looked at our record in parnell in recent years. I'll put it up if you want. Beating louth in croke park hardly equates to beating a quality div1 team in parnell. I' d say the records are pretty similar if you take the standard of opposition into account. Its our away league form that is brutal.
5- Dublin v armagh 2003 was one. dublin v derry in clones in 2003 was silly. would have got 60k .kerry v dublin in 2004 was the most ridiculous. I'm not complaining but people who are throwing out the financial argument for the 31st fail to see the hypocrisy of the GAA in this one.
6- makes a big difference for an inexperienced manager.
7- you hjaven't even read my argument on the finances to give an answer like that. I'll repeat again , if the GAA is so concerned about the financial pulling power of the DUBS why isn't every championship game in croke park involving them a stand alone fixture. If you want to maximise the economic relality of the situation, why the hypocrisy? You're happy to se the dublin fans to fill your coffers in january but fail to maximise their economic pulling power in the summer because they are from Dublin. Laughable.
Tut tut.
Quote from: Tankie on December 30, 2008, 02:55:18 PM
I thought the GAA did not need Dublin???? Does anyone want to change their vote?
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=4352.0
Well its good to see that everyone has changed their minds in regard to the GAA needing Dublin for sell outs and to bank roll the organisation when it somes to revenue.....
QuoteIt stems from the culchie complex within the higher echelons of the Gaa. Dublin hasn't had a President of the Association since the 1920's simply because the corridors of power are inherently against the thought of any Dub being present there.
theres a book in there somewhere.... "da bleedin' vinci code" maybe
I only deal in facts Mikey and that statement is a fact. Check it out for yourself.
Sorry Indiana but I just don't see where you're coming from, I mean I would define a home venue as one where you have more fans, a ground with which you're more familiar and where you don't have to travel too far to. Croke Park ticks all those boxes so you might say it is a neutral ground with most of the advantages of a home venue. I do agree that the GAA can be hypocritical and self serving when it comes to Dublin and I certainly agree that it should do a lot more to promote the National League but this is a game doubling up as a celebration of the GAA in its 125th year. Only Dublin will guarantee a sell out crowd which will provide a suitable occassion and welcome funds. I was at the last Dublin/Tyrone game under lights and i'm trying to get a crew to go to this one aswell, so it isn't only about Dublin or Tyrone fans but about the many GAA fans who can also get to a celebration of our organisation. I think that is worth 2 league points at least.
Anfield- built by liverpool , played in by liverpool
old trafford- built by man u , played in by man u
croke park built by the gaa, played in by multiple teams at the gaa's discretion.
parnell park built by dublin, played in by dublin
healy park built by tyrone , played in by tyrone
now can anyone pick the odd one out? if anyone wants to play at the other venues , they have to ask the people who own the ground. If Dublin wanted to play all their league games in Croker they'd have to ask the hierachy of the Gaa for permission. Why because they own the ground. If it was our home venue, we wouldn't have to ask anybody.
I would say on an average year we play as many games in parnell park as we do in croke park , so where people come to the conclusion we play more at croke park is quite often beyond me. Its simply lazy and selective analysis based on championship appearances where games are moved to a neutral venue to accomodate a bigger crowd. Dublin concede home advantage to get more tickets , same as in Ulster when games are moved to Clones. Does anyone mean to tell me that Clones is Tyrone's home venue by virtue of the fact they play a lot of games there?
I doubt it.
on average hardstation we've played 4-5 league games a seaosn in parnell and 4-5 championship games in croker. thats about half. I'd say tyrone have played more games in croke park than us some years. Does that mean croke park is their home as well? Meath would have done the same over the years especially in the late 80's and 90's. The deeper you go into it the more flimsy the argument is that croke park is supposedly a home venue for dublin. Its no more a home venue than for other far more successul teams in recent years.
I would say on an average year we play as many games in parnell park as we do in croke park ,
Not in the last four years anyway
Does anyone mean to tell me that Clones is Tyrone's home venue by virtue of the fact they play a lot of games there?
I doubt it.
Nope cause its in Monaghan
Defies logic.
One set of supporters will have to travel a minimum of 100 miles. The other as little as 100 yards.
And you try to argue that a match in Croke Park is not regarded as a home venue for Dublin ????
we don't own the stadium. We are simply fixed to play there. Thats the long and short of it.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 11:36:00 PM
we don't own the stadium. We are simply fixed to play there. Thats the long and short of it.
How many county boards actually own their own grounds? Tyrone don't own Healy Park, Omagh St Enda's own Healy Park (as they take great pleasure in informing the rest of the county)
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 11:36:00 PM
we don't own the stadium. We are simply fixed to play there. Thats the long and short of it.
This may come as as a newsflash indiana, so does every other county in Ireland. However for most its regarded as an honour.
Quote from: tyrone86 on December 30, 2008, 11:39:46 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 11:36:00 PM
we don't own the stadium. We are simply fixed to play there. Thats the long and short of it.
How many county boards actually own their own grounds? Tyrone don't own Healy Park, Omagh St Enda's own Healy Park (as they take great pleasure in informing the rest of the county)
Are all grounds not vested to the GAA anyway 86' ? Irrespective of "ownership"
Then you're agreeing with me Bensars without realising it.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 10:40:16 PM
Anfield- built by liverpool , played in by liverpool
old trafford- built by man u , played in by man u
croke park built by the gaa, played in by multiple teams at the gaa's discretion.
parnell park built by dublin, played in by dublin
healy park built by tyrone , played in by tyrone
now can anyone pick the odd one out? if anyone wants to play at the other venues , they have to ask the people who own the ground. If Dublin wanted to play all their league games in Croker they'd have to ask the hierachy of the Gaa for permission. Why because they own the ground. If it was our home venue, we wouldn't have to ask anybody.
I would say on an average year we play as many games in parnell park as we do in croke park , so where people come to the conclusion we play more at croke park is quite often beyond me. Its simply lazy and selective analysis based on championship appearances where games are moved to a neutral venue to accomodate a bigger crowd. Dublin concede home advantage to get more tickets , same as in Ulster when games are moved to Clones. Does anyone mean to tell me that Clones is Tyrone's home venue by virtue of the fact they play a lot of games there?
I doubt it.
I didnt want to re enter the debate but I think I have found a very easy way to solve it which the Dublin lads who like comparing everything to soccer will understand.
Engand play there home soccer games at Wembley the national stadium developed and owned by the English FA. Similar to Dublin playing there home games in Parnell Park the stadium developed by the Dublin county board. From time to time the FA ask Man Utd for example if they can use there ground for an international friendly. Man Utd own this ground similarly to the way the GAA centrally own Croke Park and not the English FA who own Wembley. So when England play Germany in a friendly in Old Trafford is this:
a) a home game for England as its being played in Manchester England or
b) a neutral/away game for England because the English FA dont own Old Trafford?
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 11:01:31 PM
on average hardstation we've played 4-5 league games a seaosn in parnell and 4-5 championship games in croker. thats about half. I'd say tyrone have played more games in croke park than us some years. Does that mean croke park is their home as well? Meath would have done the same over the years especially in the late 80's and 90's. The deeper you go into it the more flimsy the argument is that croke park is supposedly a home venue for dublin. Its no more a home venue than for other far more successul teams in recent years.
Its a home venue because Croke Park is located in one county - Dublin and not located in 31 other counties. Your attempts to argue around this reality are merely confusing the issue to try to support your flimsy arguement.
By Indiana's logic, Armagh's league matches for the past decade were at a "neutral" venue because Oliver Plunkett Park in Crossmaglen isn't owned by the Armagh County Board.
Thats not an argument Dreamer because no other international team uses Old Trafford. I mean Brazil don't play argentina at old trafford. In other words the only international team that can use old trafford to play an international game is England. Scotland won't be playing Albania there. England has exclusive international rights to Old Trafford if they want.
But 32 counties can use Croke park in the same competition that dublin participate in , so how in the name of christ that can be deemed a home venur for dublin defies logic.
How many other counties use Oliver Plunkett Park tacadoir to play league games. I mean do tyrone play down in crossmaglen in a national league game? didn't think so. Nobody else uses parnell park to play divisional league game there unless they ask us for permission. If Dublin want to use croke park to play a league game they have to ask the gaa authorities for special dispensation to do so. If Tyrone played armagh in croke park in a divisional game would tyrone be at home? Doubt it.
This is as much a home game for tyrone as it is for dublin.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 31, 2008, 12:17:29 AM
Thats not an argument Dreamer because no other international team uses Old Trafford. I mean Brazil don't play argentina at old trafford. In other words the only international team that can use old trafford to play an international game is England. Scotland won't be playing Albania there. England has exclusive international rights to Old Trafford if they want.
But 32 counties can use Croke park in the same competition that dublin participate in , so how in the name of christ that can be deemed a home venur for dublin defies logic.
How many other counties use Oliver Plunkett Park tacadoir to play league games. I mean do tyrone play down in crossmaglen in a national league game? didn't think so. Nobody else uses parnell park to play divisional league game there unless they ask us for permission. If Dublin want to use croke park to play a league game they have to ask the gaa authorities for special dispensation to do so. If Tyrone played armagh in croke park in a divisional game would tyrone be at home? Doubt it.
This is as much a home game for tyrone as it is for dublin.
And how many divisional league game have been played at Croke Park in the past 20 years that didn't involve Dublin? Do Meath play Wexford in divisional league games in Croke Park? Didn't think so.
Your last sentence is nonsense. If the game was in county Tyrone, it'd be a home game for Tyrone but its in county Dublin so its a home game for Dublin.
Ah Jesus Indiana, as much a home game for Tyrone as Dublin, you're kidding right? Anyway this is getting very much off point, the GAA want to hold a game to mark the 125th anniversary of it's foundation, in order for it to be a sell out we need Dublin to be involved. The Dublin players, management and CB have no problem (I'm aware of) moving their league game against Tyrone to CP yet some Dublin supporters seem to be up in arms over this. Why? Because it isn't actually a home game if played in CP, is that it?
nope because i'm sick of being used as a cash cow by the association. thats the nuts and bolts of it. I couldn't care less what the rest of you think of it, the place will still be full regardless of me not being there. but it won't be my money they'll be getting. And thats good enough for me.
your last sentence is a nonsense tacadoir, the stadium is situated in dublin because it is the capital of ireland and so the GAA situate their national stadium there. the fact that dublin will have more people there doesn't constitute home advantage in my view as for the umpeenth time we dont own the stadium. As i said before parnell park is our home ground.
Probably best to reserve the rest of the thread to debate the game. i'l refrain from doing so, as I have absolutely no intentuion of going to it. So I'll let the rest of you boys get on with it . Enjoy!
If any Dublin supporrers want to whinge and cry about the match being put on in Croke Park , then let them.
Why would any Tyrone supporter give a f*** about what any Dublin supporter thinks about the match being held in Croker as opposed to Parnell?
ALL Tyrone are delighted that it is in Croker because
a) it gives us a sense of occasion,
b) it gives some people something to look forward to after an xmas of doom and gloom on the jobs front in the north
c) it relives the Tyrone feeling that alot of people experienced in late September that was lost in the latter months of 2008 due to the recession?
Who would begrudge us that?
Quote from: Gaffer on December 31, 2008, 02:16:25 AM
If any Dublin supporrers want to whinge and cry about the match being put on in Croke Park , then let them.
Why would any Tyrone supporter give a f*** about what any Dublin supporter thinks about the match being held in Croker as opposed to Parnell?
ALL Tyrone are delighted that it is in Croker because
a) it gives us a sense of occasion,
b) it gives some people something to look forward to after an xmas of doom and gloom on the jobs front in the north
c) it relives the Tyrone feeling that alot of people experienced in late September that was lost in the latter months of 2008 due to the recession?
Who would begrudge us that?
No one , now give up a home game and everyone will be happy.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 31, 2008, 01:09:20 AM
nope because i'm sick of being used as a cash cow by the association. thats the nuts and bolts of it. I couldn't care less what the rest of you think of it, the place will still be full regardless of me not being there. but it won't be my money they'll be getting. And thats good enough for me.
This is what I don't understand, you are being used as a cash cow you say, well you could also say the association is taking advantage of its biggest draw for a football match in Dublin. This game will be a celebration of the GAA, and Dublin GAA will benefit as much as anybody. I know your a hurling man Indiana, would you not agree that Dublin hurling has done well out GAA funding in recent years? Is it too much to ask that the Dublin football team move up the road a small bit to play a football match so that we can provide an occassion and generate more money so that other necessary initatives are suitable funded?
Quote from: Zulu on December 30, 2008, 10:29:31 PM
Sorry Indiana but I just don't see where you're coming from, I mean I would define a home venue as one where you have more fans, a ground with which you're more familiar and where you don't have to travel too far to. Croke Park ticks all those boxes so you might say it is a neutral ground with most of the advantages of a home venue. I do agree that the GAA can be hypocritical and self serving when it comes to Dublin and I certainly agree that it should do a lot more to promote the National League but this is a game doubling up as a celebration of the GAA in its 125th year. Only Dublin will guarantee a sell out crowd which will provide a suitable occassion and welcome funds. I was at the last Dublin/Tyrone game under lights and i'm trying to get a crew to go to this one aswell, so it isn't only about Dublin or Tyrone fans but about the many GAA fans who can also get to a celebration of our organisation. I think that is worth 2 league points at least.
Ok since evryone else wants too deny the previous poll wher 33 - 12 the posters on this board said that they did noy nee Dublin. But in fairness to Zulu he is saying that the GAA does need Dublin
Regardless of that I have been out wit the lads from the club and from the two teams i'm involved in we have 29 saying that they are not going (others dont go anyway) so with that and my other 7 parnell pass lads we have a small boycott going. Maybe this will gather some pace before club submit their requests....
Tankie anyone who says we don't need the Dubs is talking through their holes, one fifth of the country lives there for Christ sake so of course we do. But you, Indiana and your mates are making no sense to me by boycotting a great sporting occassion for, what exactly? Anything that benefits the GAA as a whole I'm in favour of and this game does exactly that, so I fail to see what ye Dubs have an issue with. I'd love to be able to stroll over to CP for an 83,000 sellout game against the AI champs and stroll home again, just enjoy the occassion lads!!
Quote from: Zulu on December 31, 2008, 04:15:00 AM
Tankie anyone who says we don't need the Dubs is talking through their holes, one fifth of the country lives there for Christ sake so of course we do. But you, Indiana and your mates are making no sense to me by boycotting a great sporting occassion for, what exactly? Anything that benefits the GAA as a whole I'm in favour of and this game does exactly that, so I fail to see what ye Dubs have an issue with. I'd love to be able to stroll over to CP for an 83,000 sellout game against the AI champs and stroll home again, just enjoy the occassion lads!!
Well its clear you do not see why Dublin people want to boycott this game, read some of the previous posts and in particular Indianas who has spent alot of time discussing this issue.
this is no celebration other that the GAA milking its cash cow that it treats like shite for the rest of the year!
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 12:38:15 PM
Zulu you obviously never read my post. I was expecting the stream of vitriol, so I'm not going to respond to the indvidual insults But my reasons for not going are thus:
1- I enjoy the league games in Parnell. Its a welcome change from Croke Park . We've a good record there and its a cracking atmosphere there on a Sat night much better than Croke Park will be on the 31st.
2- If its a game celebrating the 125 th anniversary, it should be tyrone and kerry. We have no business being there after last year. We are not in the top 4 never mind the top 2.
3- Tired of being used as a cash cow for the Gaa. Its a such a hypocritical move from an organisation that never promoted the national league that it uses a one off game every 3 years to revive the 2nd most important inter county competition. They never promote it on any consistent basis except with these ridiculous one off events. We lose home advantage that everyone else gets, why?
4- The management are from my club, this is a 50/50 call. IF Dublin lose which is quite likely then they are under immediate pressure. Vincents are universally loathed and detested throughout Dublin. There are a lot of people in Dublin waiting in the long grass on this one. A parnell park defeat wouldn't raise an eyebrow nationally and locally the level of discontent would be smaller. Dublin are in a rebuilding phase, they need this profile of a game like a hole in the head. The DCB once again, instead of looking at the big picture just saw the euros.
I didn't sign a contract as a Gaa fan that I have to attend on the 31st. We all have our own reasons for doing things and I'm staying at home on this one. We have no business being there. We are not good enough to be there at the moment.
Is this the post you're talking about?
1. His personal opinion on the atmosphere in each ground, fair enough but not a good reason for not having an 83,000 sellout for the opening game of the league in our 125th year.
2. Ok but Tyrone and Kerry wouldn't sell it out, Dublin will and we need that for our 125th celebration, which like other neutrals I hope to be there for.
3. I accept we should promote the National League more but are ye being
used as a cash cow and if so, so what, we all benefit?
4. That's very personal and hardly reflective of all Dublin fans, is it?
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 30, 2008, 11:51:16 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on December 30, 2008, 10:40:16 PM
Anfield- built by liverpool , played in by liverpool
old trafford- built by man u , played in by man u
croke park built by the gaa, played in by multiple teams at the gaa's discretion.
parnell park built by dublin, played in by dublin
healy park built by tyrone , played in by tyrone
now can anyone pick the odd one out? if anyone wants to play at the other venues , they have to ask the people who own the ground. If Dublin wanted to play all their league games in Croker they'd have to ask the hierachy of the Gaa for permission. Why because they own the ground. If it was our home venue, we wouldn't have to ask anybody.
I would say on an average year we play as many games in parnell park as we do in croke park , so where people come to the conclusion we play more at croke park is quite often beyond me. Its simply lazy and selective analysis based on championship appearances where games are moved to a neutral venue to accomodate a bigger crowd. Dublin concede home advantage to get more tickets , same as in Ulster when games are moved to Clones. Does anyone mean to tell me that Clones is Tyrone's home venue by virtue of the fact they play a lot of games there?
I doubt it.
I didnt want to re enter the debate but I think I have found a very easy way to solve it which the Dublin lads who like comparing everything to soccer will understand.
Engand play there home soccer games at Wembley the national stadium developed and owned by the English FA. Similar to Dublin playing there home games in Parnell Park the stadium developed by the Dublin county board. From time to time the FA ask Man Utd for example if they can use there ground for an international friendly. Man Utd own this ground similarly to the way the GAA centrally own Croke Park and not the English FA who own Wembley. So when England play Germany in a friendly in Old Trafford is this:
a) a home game for England as its being played in Manchester England or
b) a neutral/away game for England because the English FA dont own Old Trafford?
Anfield- built by liverpool , played in by liverpool Anfield is in Liverpool. If Anfield closed in the morning and Liverpool started to play in Goodison then Goodison would be the home ground
old trafford- built by man u , played in by man u Same as above
croke park built by the gaa, played in by multiple teams at the gaa's discretion. In Dublin and all dublin championship matches played here
parnell park built by dublin, played in by dublin Built by dublin with the assistance of the GAA and various grants. Used mainly for dublin club matches with the exception off 3-4 county football matches and 3-4 county hurling matches each year
healy park built by tyrone , played in by tyrone Situated in Tyrone
I dont get the point here. Maybe look closer to home. Leinster Rugby's home is Donnybrook. Yet they play all Heineken cup matches in the RDS. Are you saying that when they play in the RDS they are giving up home advantage.
QuoteAnfield- built by liverpool , played in by liverpool Anfield is in Liverpool. If Anfield closed in the morning and Liverpool started to play in Goodison then Goodison would be the home ground
Anfield was actually built by Everton.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 31, 2008, 12:17:29 AM
Thats not an argument Dreamer because no other international team uses Old Trafford. I mean Brazil don't play argentina at old trafford. In other words the only international team that can use old trafford to play an international game is England. Scotland won't be playing Albania there. England has exclusive international rights to Old Trafford if they want.
But 32 counties can use Croke park in the same competition that dublin participate in , so how in the name of christ that can be deemed a home venur for dublin defies logic.
How many other counties use Oliver Plunkett Park tacadoir to play league games. I mean do tyrone play down in crossmaglen in a national league game? didn't think so. Nobody else uses parnell park to play divisional league game there unless they ask us for permission. If Dublin want to use croke park to play a league game they have to ask the gaa authorities for special dispensation to do so. If Tyrone played armagh in croke park in a divisional game would tyrone be at home? Doubt it.
This is as much a home game for tyrone as it is for dublin.
No other county team uses Croke Park as a county ground. During the summer they may be asked to play a neutral championship match there. This would be like Euro 96 games being played in Old Traffford between countries not involving England. Old Trafford is not Englands official home ground, however when they choose to play there it would be considered a home ground because its in England and the opposition are from a different country. Its not that difficult a concept to understand. Club grounds have also been used in England by other countries to stage international games.
Using your logic Ireland have been playing international friendlys in soccer and rugby at a neutral ground for 2 years when using croke park. The venue is not owned by the IRFU or FAI and the gaa are only using them as a "cash cow". I hope you's werent part of the open croke park so Ireland dont loose home advantage brigade. Because in reality Croke Park is a neutral venue just like Anfield was going by what your saying.
I'm also sick of this "im sick of being used a cash cow" line. As I asked earlier are you being asked to pay any more financially to attend Dublin games than any other county supporter. Why would your begrudge the gaa making money when you are part of the gaa and the money will be used for gaa development?
Because we're losing home advantage and getting nothing back in return for it. In return we don't get stand alone fixtures in the championship and many Dublin fans will go without tickets. In turn they are also denying the association millions of euro by not having stand alone championship games in the summer that could build clubhouses for rural clubs who don't have any. People like you don't see that, because you're totally blinkered when it comes to Dublin.
So to summarise they are quite happy to get us on board to fill the stadium for this anniversary game but won't give the same Dublin people tickets in the summer with a stand alone game,when it can be very easily done. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
Instead of actually having a consistent marketing campaign nationwide for the National League they use the dubs in a bi-annual charade to give the impression the league is a thriving competition. And then they deny the same fans tickets in the summer when the real action starts and also deny the association millions of euro. Thats why I'm not going and I couldn't care less what the rest of you think of it.
Quote from: INDIANA on December 31, 2008, 12:11:42 PM
Because we're losing home advantage and getting nothing back in return for it. In return we don't get stand alone fixtures in the championship and many Dublin fans will go without tickets. In turn they are also denying the association millions of euro by not having stand alone championship games in the summer that could build clubhouses for rural clubs who don't have any. People like you don't see that, because you're totally blinkered when it comes to Dublin.
So to summarise they are quite happy to get us on board to fill the stadium for this anniversary game but won't give the same Dublin people tickets in the summer with a stand alone game,when it can be very easily done. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
Instead of actually having a consistent marketing campaign nationwide for the National League they use the dubs in a bi-annual charade to give the impression the league is a thriving competition. And then they deny the same fans tickets in the summer when the real action starts and also deny the association millions of euro. Thats why I'm not going and I couldn't care less what the rest of you think of it.
Well said
Quote from: INDIANA on December 31, 2008, 12:11:42 PM
Because we're losing home advantage and getting nothing back in return for it. In return we don't get stand alone fixtures in the championship and many Dublin fans will go without tickets. In turn they are also denying the association millions of euro by not having stand alone championship games in the summer that could build clubhouses for rural clubs who don't have any. People like you don't see that, because you're totally blinkered when it comes to Dublin.
So to summarise they are quite happy to get us on board to fill the stadium for this anniversary game but won't give the same Dublin people tickets in the summer with a stand alone game,when it can be very easily done. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
Instead of actually having a consistent marketing campaign nationwide for the National League they use the dubs in a bi-annual charade to give the impression the league is a thriving competition. And then they deny the same fans tickets in the summer when the real action starts and also deny the association millions of euro. Thats why I'm not going and I couldn't care less what the rest of you think of it.
What mathces are you referring to? I can only think of 1 big double header involving Dublin this last 4 years were you's may have been denied tickets. The last 2 years the gaa have went out of there way to give Dublin stand alone fixtures.
Dreamer they've done it in the leinster championship as well over the last few years. The gate receipts of all the counties combined form the majority of the association's income. Why you'd want to deny yourself millions is beyond me. Its not much to ask that they could at least say for giving up home advantage we'll give you a stand alone quarter final if you get there and not repeat the likes of 2004 which was plain ridiculous.
I don't think a rural club wuld give a shite if their clubhouse was built from the proceeds of one of these games from Dubs, whether they be cocaine sniffers,bank robbers or otherwise as we're frequently described here. Or putting the tyrone v dublin on a saturday this year at short notice to suit the likes of Cork. Why can't we get any concessions like everyone else Its not much to ask.
I still dont know what games your referring to. I can only think of 1 Dublin match that may have sold out on its own that was played as a double header. This last few years the gaa have went of their way to ensure it doesnt happen. The supporters who miss out would only be your summer fans who you arent to worried about anyway because you want them to miss the Tyrone league game.
I'm not repeating myself dreamer. I'll leave it at that on this one.
Your leaving it at that becasue Ive called your bluff about Dublin being forced to play double headers and fans missing out on tickets. Your only example was Armagh in 03 in the qualifiers and when I check it out there was only 63,000 at the game so a double header wasnt an issue.
Getting back to football this has the makings of a decent 1st game of the league. From a Tyrone point of view it would be nice to see some of the players who didnt start at the end of last year but who would be close to making the team. The likes of PJ Quinn,Cathal McCarron,Kevin Hughes,Brian McGuigan,Colm Cavanagh,Raymie Mulgrew,Owen Mulligan,Stephen O'Neill.
You've haven't called anyone's bluff dreamer, the fact that you can't read back a few pages is not my problem. Kerry v dublin in 2004, moving derry v dublin to clones in 2004, i could call up leinster championship games in the last 3 years but i couldn't be arsed, its freely available information You'd still claim not to have seen them. I've made my point , enjoy the match.
You havent made your point. You've picked out two games that were stand alone fixtures not double headers that you keep complaining about. One of them was a Derry home game - do you's not expect never to play away games? Even the Derry game was moved to Clones and didnt come close to selling out so how were Dublin fans denied tickets for it? You havent given 1 example of a Dublin double header that the gaa apparently keep making Dublin play in that was a sell out.
Quote from: his holiness nb on December 29, 2008, 02:35:51 PM
Not sure if this has been answered, but does anyone know how the parnell pass holders are catered for for this game?
First sign of madness, quoting yourself!!
But can anyone answer this?
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on December 31, 2008, 03:30:09 PM
You havent made your point. You've picked out two games that were stand alone fixtures not double headers that you keep complaining about. One of them was a Derry home game - do you's not expect never to play away games? Even the Derry game was moved to Clones and didnt come close to selling out so how were Dublin fans denied tickets for it? You havent given 1 example of a Dublin double header that the gaa apparently keep making Dublin play in that was a sell out.
And the Dub fans didn't even enter the ground til halfway through the match after the Ireland game!
You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't when it comes to the Dubs. "We want more games in Croke Park" yet there is a mountain of complaints here when you have to play Tyrone there. Then you have the "We want to be treated like everyone else" yet there's another mountain of complaints when they have to go to Longford and fans miss out on tickets, yet as stated in the game aginst Derry in 2004 there was a paltry crowd.
Dublin imo are luckier than most fans about the place and if ye had a more successful team there would be a lot less complaining out of ye. Dubs should consider the shoe being on the other foot for fans from other counties who would be only too happy to have their game moved from a small stadium holding a few thousand to an 83,000 sellout game in the Countries greatest stadium... make up your minds lads you can't have it both ways!!!!
Dublin fans complaining that the game is been played in Croke park allowing their loyal fanbase more tickets to watch the game.
Dublin fans complaining about been denied tickets to watch their team in the past.
Is it just me that doesn't get it?
Quote from: Tankie on December 31, 2008, 04:21:08 AM
you do not see why Dublin people want to boycott this game
Just to clarify to all, its a tiny minority of Dubs who are boycotting this game.
Listening to Tankie and co you would be forgiven for thinking all the Dubs are whingeing about this game.
The manager isnt, the players arent, and the majority of the fans arent.
So Tankie and co, dont be pretending, like you did above, to represent the views of Dublin fans on this issue, because you dont.
stick it where the sun don't shine holiness, we're entitled to our views the same as you. You don't own monopoly of opinion here, even if you think you do.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 02, 2009, 01:28:09 PM
stick it where the sun don't shine holiness, we're entitled to our views the same as you. You don't own monopoly of opinion here, even if you think you do.
All his holiness is saying is that
you don't own the monopoly of opinion of Dublin supporters, even though you may think you do or would like to.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 02, 2009, 01:28:09 PM
stick it up your ass holiness, we're entitled to our views the same as you. You don't own monopoly of opinion here, even if you think you do.
Classy Indiana ::)
Everybody is entitled to their views, but not to tell people what the views of others are, when they really have no idea.
I replied to Tankies posts which suggested "Dublin people want to boycott this game".
I merely pointed out that this is not strictly true as the majority are happy with the game.
Forgive me for daring to say Tankie doesnt speak for me on this issue.
*also, why did you change from "stick it up your ass" to "stick it where the sun dont shine" ??
The same thing surely?? :-X
Quote from: his holiness nb on January 02, 2009, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: Tankie on December 31, 2008, 04:21:08 AM
you do not see why Dublin people want to boycott this game
Just to clarify to all, its a tiny minority of Dubs who are boycotting this game.
Listening to Tankie and co you would be forgiven for thinking all the Dubs are whingeing about this game.
The manager isnt, the players arent, and the majority of the fans arent.
So Tankie and co, dont be pretending, like you did above, to represent the views of Dublin fans on this issue, because you dont.
I have the unfortunate situation where I have a girlfriend who is from Dublin,and her Da is also a true blue Dub...All their relations are also true blue gaa loving Dubs(Lord what did I do in a past life to deserve such a fate :'( )
Anyways I know all of them are going to this game,as am I...As far as I can see its only Tankie and INDIANA who will be boycotting this game
I'm sure you'll be missed :D
I couldn't give a monkeys about anyone's view of me here or my reasons for not going to the game. Really doesn't bother me. I'm quite happy that in this instance the Gaa won't be getting my hard earned cash and can leech off somebody else for a change. Enjoy the game holiness, try and open your mind sometimes to other people's opinions, thats called democracy. But having read you views on politics, I shouldn't have been surprised.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 02, 2009, 02:07:26 PM
Enjoy the game holiness, try and open your mind sometimes to other people's opinions, thats called democracy
FFS Indiana, of course you are entitled to your opinions. I was just correcting Tankies post which indicated your views were that of most Dubs. He is entitled to his views but NOT to claim them to be the views of Dublin people in general.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 02, 2009, 02:07:26 PM
But having read you views on politics, I shouldn't have been surprised.
::)
Not that it has anything to do with this thread, but if you have any problems with my views on politics, why not address them in the relevant thread rather than vague comments like that.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 02, 2009, 02:07:26 PM
I couldn't give a monkeys about anyone's view of me here or my reasons for not going to the game. Really doesn't bother me. I'm quite happy that in this instance the Gaa won't be getting my hard earned cash and can leech off somebody else for a change. Enjoy the game holiness, try and open your mind sometimes to other people's opinions, thats called democracy. But having read you views on politics, I shouldn't have been surprised.
You make out your hard done by as a fan because your a Dub. As I keep pointing out you pay no more into matches than any other county supporter. In fact during the year it costs you less to follow Dublin than other county supporters who have to travel outside of their own county for games.
QuoteI couldn't give a monkeys about anyone's view of me here or my reasons for not going to the game. Really doesn't bother me. I'm quite happy that in this instance the Gaa won't be getting my hard earned cash and can leech off somebody else for a change.
There'll be no club houses built this year then! :D
Never mind the fans.
More importantly are the Dublin players going to show up this time, or will they continue with their boycott?
I see Tankie and Indiana have some support over at
http://www.reservoirdubs.com/forum/index.php?topic=3865.180
I like one posters description of this site as - GrumpyoldnorthernGAAfootballandwedontknowwhathurlingisbecauseweareidiots.com
To be fair half these lads were boycotting last summers game to because it was the wrong Saturday. They were also very worried at the time that they were going to beat Tyrone by to much meaning the hype was going to get out of hand.
Are Dublin fans insecure? I notice over there that after someone says something its nearly always followed by another posting saying have a pat on the back or good karma. There's a lot of kiss arsing goes on.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 02, 2009, 11:36:24 PM
I see Tankie and Indiana have some support over at
http://www.reservoirdubs.com/forum/index.php?topic=3865.180
I like one posters description of this site as - GrumpyoldnorthernGAAfootballandwedontknowwhathurlingisbecauseweareidiots.com
I take offence to that
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 02, 2009, 11:39:26 PM
Are Dublin fans insecure? I notice over there that after someone says something its nearly always followed by another posting saying have a pat on the back or good karma. There's a lot of kiss arsing goes on.
The fellas on that site are a shower of knobs...They only refer to Meath people as being from M**th which is a bit immature really don't you think ???..Laois people are citrus fans or something stupid like that..
I also got banned once for offering a opinion which they didn't seem to like and was sent a rather unkind email from one of their mods... :)
When is this fecking game on. This must be the longest running thread on a league game ever
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 02, 2009, 11:39:26 PM
Are Dublin fans insecure? I notice over there that after someone says something its nearly always followed by another posting saying have a pat on the back or good karma. There's a lot of kiss arsing goes on.
Thers one from the Orchard County who's on here regular does a lot of arse kissing and handing out these pat on the backs. Sickens my hole.
Saw that all right. Remember reading him telling them that Tyrone were finished and were going no where. Have a POTB and some Karma.
I'd be slightly more worried with your apparent morbid obsession with Dublin and Reservoirdubs - have a POTB..
Just like to keep up to date with how the lads are who built are club houses for us.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 04, 2009, 12:56:38 PM
Just like to keep up to date with how the lads are who built are club houses for us.
I'm sure a postcard or short thank you letter would suffice - you're looking like a voyeur..this online stalking has to end
i'd say he has a picture of the 3 castles on his bedroom wall! Probably time to start talking about the game lads.
Anyone have any idea if this game will be one where Season Ticket holders have to prebook their seats? There is stuff about it in the FAQ, but nothing about how we would go about doing it. I assume that details of this will come with the card?
What you all think?
Could any of yiz help me with a question bout the tickets?
I'm ordering a few for students off ticketmaster prob just guna print them off. I know for the student discount they just have to show their student cards to some fellas outside but I read somewhere that ye can only get this discount if the tickets are for the cusack or davin stands? Is this true? No major deal like just wondering
Quote from: 20leg-end08 on January 07, 2009, 04:32:27 AM
Could any of yiz help me with a question bout the tickets?
I'm ordering a few for students off ticketmaster prob just guna print them off. I know for the student discount they just have to show their student cards to some fellas outside but I read somewhere that ye can only get this discount if the tickets are for the cusack or davin stands? Is this true? No major deal like just wondering
Correct
Students and OAPs must purchase full price tickets for Davin or Cusack Stands only. Then they can get a refund at Block D turnstiles to rear of Cusack Stand prior to entry, assuming they have appropriate ID.
you're back.
So, who is team of the decade according to your ranking system :D
Quote from: Hound on January 07, 2009, 10:32:24 AM
Quote from: 20leg-end08 on January 07, 2009, 04:32:27 AM
Could any of yiz help me with a question bout the tickets?
I'm ordering a few for students off ticketmaster prob just guna print them off. I know for the student discount they just have to show their student cards to some fellas outside but I read somewhere that ye can only get this discount if the tickets are for the cusack or davin stands? Is this true? No major deal like just wondering
Correct
Students and OAPs must purchase full price tickets for Davin or Cusack Stands only. Then they can get a refund at Block D turnstiles to rear of Cusack Stand prior to entry, assuming they have appropriate ID.
Thanks :)
Dus anyone know how they are going to let off a half a million euro worth of Fireworks. I see where John Maughan was complaining about the waste of 500,000 euro worth going up in smoke when clubs are forced to pay high levvies. Then he said "I suppose if they did nothing to celebrate I would be complaining too" Too bloody right John.
What I mean by "how they are going to let off the fireworks" , apart from lighting them, is how in safety can they do it without risk of one of them at least going into the stands, or by way of rough justice, God forbid, into Hill 16. ??
The first editor of a paper to use the headline "Fireworks at Dublin and Tyrone game" should be tied to a golf ball typewriter and chained to a seat in the Press box of Croke Park.
I assume that they are getting pro's in to let these fireworks off!
Any odds anywhere of another flasher ? Think its a cert again ?
Quote from: Bensars on January 08, 2009, 06:17:59 PM
Any odds anywhere of another flasher ? Think its a cert again ?
i wonder what the odds of him doing star jumps along the hogan stand are like this year, maybe the same bucko will be at this years game and show of a new naked warm up exercise!!!
Although the Dublin players wont have much football behind them there is a possibility that they could be well ahead in terms of fitness for this game. As Tyrone are on holiday I assume there have been no training sessions at this point. The McKenna Cup is coming up but with 9 new players being tried its unlikely that players will get more than 2 games. The Dubs have had a tough weeks training camp behind them already and no doubt will continue to train hard for the rest of the month to build on this. Judging by the Dubs team for Sunday it doesnt look like they will have much game time behind them though.
Some pointers
last 3 all ireland wins
Dublin 77,83, 95 rate 3:22 Assessment: due next one in 2019
Tyrone 03,05,08 rate 3:6 Assessment: Newly rich, but such wealth
Last 2 championship meetings: Tyrone by scores more akin to that good game of cricket.
Players to watch: Steven O Neill, Sean Cavanagh, E Mulligan
Players to watch: Brogan (2) Cluxton
Tradition:
2 huge wins for Dublin in 84 and 95 have spurred the redhands to seek atonement for their hurt as often as they can. Whether it be league, championship or scor we enjoy smacking the jacks. I have a feeling the Dubs might capitalise on the Tyrone Winter celebrations on the 31st. But Mickey dont like losing...
Quote from: hardstation on January 13, 2009, 10:38:29 PM
Just saw an advert for this on RTE 1.
Did Keith from Boyzone narrate it or some other RTE brainchild?
Great to see O'Neill back playing well. Look forward to seeing him and Cavanagh and possibly Mugsy team up for the Dublin game. It will be interesting to see the line up now for this game. I'd like to see something like this:
Devine
Ricey
Justy
PJ Quinn
Harte
Gormley
Jordan
McGinley
Cassidy
Mulgrew
T McGuigan
Joe
O'Neill
Cavanagh
Mugsy
Wonder will Gormley and Ricey both be in contention to start for it? Harte may be tempted to try out a few other non regulars like Swift and Gareth Devlin.
any chance he'd tog out 15 non-regulars to give us a chance?
doubt if gormley will be playing probably away on honeymoon
Yeah he probably is forgot about that. Peter Donnelly has started all McKenna Cup games and played centre half back today so it wouldnt be a shock if he starts.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 18, 2009, 11:24:06 PM
Yeah he probably is forgot about that. Peter Donnelly has started all McKenna Cup games and played centre half back today so it wouldnt be a shock if he starts.
Get away out of that. It would be a shock for me if he's still on the panel. On the strength of that performance today, he's a poor man's Horse Devlin.
Quote from: tyrone86 on January 19, 2009, 12:34:39 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 18, 2009, 11:24:06 PM
Yeah he probably is forgot about that. Peter Donnelly has started all McKenna Cup games and played centre half back today so it wouldnt be a shock if he starts.
Get away out of that. It would be a shock for me if he's still on the panel. On the strength of that performance today, he's a poor man's Horse Devlin.
Harte is obviously a fan considering the number of years he's been on the panel now. The fact that he has played all 3 games would suggest to me that he could be in line to start. Wouldnt pick him myself.
Will this match be live on TV - Setanta or Tg4
Setanta.
I see ladbrokes have this game priced up
6/4 Dublin
8/1 Draw
4/6 Tyrone
Anyone think these prices might be a little out ?
what other NFL / NHL games are on Setanta
QuoteI see ladbrokes have this game priced up
6/4 Dublin
8/1 Draw
4/6 Tyrone
Dublin HT, draw FT.
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theres the video of the ad
What's the story with th uni fellas, will the likes of Colm Cavanagh be available?
I didn't think Donnelly was too bad yesterday. I think he likes the heavy going!
Cassidy v Hughes for the spot alongside Enda?
Spoke to our juvenile chairman at the weekend who was told in the County Board that it is looking like close to a sellout for the game. "Fairweather supporters " my hole. What is the next angle of attack on the Dubs lads?
Here's hoping we introduce a few battlers/"toerags" into our backline to give us an edge we haven't had for years. Too many Development Squad nice guys in the backs imo have cost us dearly in the last few years.
Can't see us winning though!!!!!
Quote from: C_Berg_316 on January 19, 2009, 02:04:52 PM
Collie Holmes was told to do a job of just blocking Whealens runs for the Kick outs in the championship game last year and it has to be said he done it quite effectively.
Hang those who say Tyrone play a cynical brand of football!
Quote from: heffo on January 19, 2009, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: C_Berg_316 on January 19, 2009, 02:04:52 PM
Collie Holmes was told to do a job of just blocking Whealens runs for the Kick outs in the championship game last year and it has to be said he done it quite effectively.
Hang those who say Tyrone play a cynical brand of football!
And with Whelan being such an over-rated useless hoor according to them all, you'd wonder why Mickey feels the need to use special tactics against him............
Maybe coz the rest of them are even worse!
Not pleasant news hearing Tyrone piled on a cricket score at the weekend, against opposition who were putting it up to them too.
As Indiana has been saying for a few weeks now, we could be in for an awful beating.
At least expectations are low. Tyrone odds on favourites with the bookies and will probably get even shorter.
Quote from: Hound on January 19, 2009, 03:30:10 PM
Not pleasant news hearing Tyrone piled on a cricket score at the weekend, against opposition who were putting it up to them too.
As Indiana has been saying for a few weeks now, we could be in for an awful beating.
At least expectations are low. Tyrone odds on favourites with the bookies and will probably get even shorter.
Why do I feel you don't totally believe that? Sure didn't Tyrone struggle to overcome a group of students during the week.
What new faces should we look out for on the Dub side? Any probable line-out?
A colleague of mine has tickets in a box, part of a "consortium". He was just offered £75 for a ticket for the match.
There isnt much middle ground with the Dubs supporters. Last August you's didnt give Tyrone much of a chance and now we're unbeatable. Would imagine it will be a very close game. Imagine if the new rules had been in place the last time Tyrone played Dublin as All Ireland champions in 1st league game, would have been some players of that day.
Dublin will be up against it. If we can keep it to single figures after last August that would represent progress. Tyrone will be even stronger than last year with SON and co back. We're in transition and will be experimental in the league. Can't see anything other than a comphrehensive Tyrone win.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 19, 2009, 06:41:23 PM
There isnt much middle ground with the Dubs supporters. Last August you's didnt give Tyrone much of a chance and now we're unbeatable. Would imagine it will be a very close game. Imagine if the new rules had been in place the last time Tyrone played Dublin as All Ireland champions in 1st league game, would have been some players of that day.
I think most Dublin posters on the board were weary about the amount of AI medals Tyrone had and had a nagging feeling at the back of their minds.
Both teams form coming into the game justified the pre match odds and if I were in the same situation again I'd still have put my money on Dublin - Tyrone had no form coming into the game.
Anyhoo, back to Saturday week - Dublin haven't played a competitive game since August, will field an experimental team and I expect Tyrone to win by 5/6
Quote from: heffo on January 19, 2009, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 19, 2009, 06:41:23 PM
There isnt much middle ground with the Dubs supporters. Last August you's didnt give Tyrone much of a chance and now we're unbeatable. Would imagine it will be a very close game. Imagine if the new rules had been in place the last time Tyrone played Dublin as All Ireland champions in 1st league game, would have been some players of that day.
I think most Dublin posters on the board were weary about the amount of AI medals Tyrone had and had a nagging feeling at the back of their minds.
Both teams form coming into the game justified the pre match odds and if I were in the same situation again I'd still have put my money on Dublin - Tyrone had no form coming into the game.
Anyhoo, back to Saturday week - Dublin haven't played a competitive game since August, will field an experimental team and I expect Tyrone to win by 5/6
You are cuter than a Kerry hewer
Tyrone have had a few games behind them but there has been a lot of experimenting done. The games also weren't close to the intensity this will be played at. I would guess at this stage the team have only trained 2 or 3 times maximum together. Dublin on the other hand have been for a weeks tough foreign training and no doubt have built on that since coming back. If anything they should have the edge in fitness.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 19, 2009, 07:12:41 PM
Dublin will be up against it. If we can keep it to single figures after last August that would represent progress. Tyrone will be even stronger than last year with SON and co back. We're in transition and will be experimental in the league. Can't see anything other than a comphrehensive Tyrone win.
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I predict a 10 point win for Dublin - Tyrone are only back from their holidays and haven't trained this year so far. And they were all pissed at the wedding at the weekend.
Can't see anything other than a comphrehensive Tyrone Dublin win. ;)
Edge in fitness? You must be joking. We haven't played a game since august . They trained hard on the week away, but they aren't killing themselves at the moment since ther return(didn't train at all last week), thats a fact. Thats why I can't see anything other than a tyrone win. Very hard to expect dublin to win with no games behind them.
What was the point in doing 1 weeks tough training in isolation? Surely it makes no sense to train flat out for a week and then do nothing in the weeks after it?
Listen I 'm not the brains behind the operation, how should I know? They'll be training this week ;D. Maybe now you'll see why I'm pessimistic.
Aye but home advantage should be worth a few points for the Dubs!!!
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 19, 2009, 09:19:58 PM
Aye but home advantage should be worth a few points for the Dubs!!!
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Here we go again..... :D
Anybody any idea how the tickets are going?
With all the soap opera drama surrounding it, I just wish it was over already so the Dubs could find something else to cry about :D
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on January 19, 2009, 09:56:42 PM
With all the soap opera drama surrounding it, I just wish it was over already so the Dubs could find something else to cry about :D
Like playing an up-coming Championship match outside of CP?
That would do it ziggy
Nice attempt at a wind-up lads , you'll have to do a bit better than that!
I would like to see a few of the new faces on the Tyrone squad given their chance to play on the really big stage. Swift, Cassidy and Devlin were the 'fringe players' who impressed most during the McKenna Cup and deserve this opportunity to shine in front of a much bigger audience. Mickey had no hesitation throwing teenagers Raymie Mulgrew and Colm Cavanagh into the lion's den the last time we met the Dubs under lights. It is certainly a great testing ground for any newcomer to senior inter-county football!
I'm not sure if Mickey will decide to put McKenna Cup absentees ilke Ricey and McCullagh in from the start. He may opt to keep both in reserve and bring them on at some stage. Anyone know why PJ Quinn did not play any part in the McKenna Cup? I would definitely like to think the Moortown man will be pushing strongly for a place in Tyrone's starting 15 this year. If Conor Gormley is unavailable, this is how I would like to see the All-Ireland champs line out against the Dubs:
J Devine
PJ Quinn - Justin McMahon - M Swift
D Harte - Joe McMahon - P Jordan
E McGinley - A Cassidy
R Mellon - S Cavanagh - T McGuigan
G Devlin - S O'Neill - O Mulligan
Ricey, C McCullagh, C Cavanagh, M Penrose, Hub, C Holmes, R Mulgrew etc etc would all be useful men to spring off the bench!
Justy did a great job last year at FB, but I'd love to see him further out to see how he'd perform for the county - maybe swap with the brother.
RHF, do you think we've seen the end of Sean as a starting MF in terms of a Tyrone side at full strength?
Quote from: Redhandfan on January 19, 2009, 11:00:54 PM
I would like to see a few of the new faces on the Tyrone squad given their chance to play on the really big stage. Swift, Cassidy and Devlin were the 'fringe players' who impressed most during the McKenna Cup and deserve this opportunity to shine in front of a much bigger audience. Mickey had no hesitation throwing teenagers Raymie Mulgrew and Colm Cavanagh into the lion's den the last time we met the Dubs under lights. It is certainly a great testing ground for any newcomer to senior inter-county football!
I'm not sure if Mickey will decide to put McKenna Cup absentees ilke Ricey and McCullagh in from the start. He may opt to keep both in reserve and bring them on at some stage. Anyone know why PJ Quinn did not play any part in the McKenna Cup? I would definitely like to think the Moortown man will be pushing strongly for a place in Tyrone's starting 15 this year. If Conor Gormley is unavailable, this is how I would like to see the All-Ireland champs line out against the Dubs:
J Devine
PJ Quinn - Justin McMahon - M Swift
D Harte - Joe McMahon - P Jordan
E McGinley - A Cassidy
R Mellon - S Cavanagh - T McGuigan
G Devlin - S O'Neill - O Mulligan
Ricey, C McCullagh, C Cavanagh, M Penrose, Hub, C Holmes, R Mulgrew etc etc would all be useful men to spring off the bench!
Didn't PJ play against the Ranch? I would have been sufficiently enamored with Justy performance for the Ranch to agree with O'Neill that a few games at CHB in the league would be an interesting experiment.
I agree that Justy would make an excellent CHB or midfielder for Tyrone but, in my opinion, we really need a settled number three. No one has made that position their own since Chris Lawn.
As for Sean, I don't think we have seen the end of him as a starting midfielder. I still think Mickey opted to play Sean at FF in the early part of last year because we lacked a pivotal and influential figure in and around the opposition square. With Stevie not about, and Mugsy not in the best of form, Tyrone needed a strong and forceful player in that sector. Things are different now. We have that bit of star quality back in the full forward line and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sean playing further outfield this season - be it at CHF or MF.
I reckon McGinley has nailed one of the midfield slots but it remains to be seen whether or not the likes of Cassidy can make it alongside him. Sean's midfield experience means he will always be an option if we are struggling in this department at any point in the season. Hub and Collie Holmes aren't getting any younger either!
Quote from: tyrone86 on January 19, 2009, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: Redhandfan on January 19, 2009, 11:00:54 PM
I would like to see a few of the new faces on the Tyrone squad given their chance to play on the really big stage. Swift, Cassidy and Devlin were the 'fringe players' who impressed most during the McKenna Cup and deserve this opportunity to shine in front of a much bigger audience. Mickey had no hesitation throwing teenagers Raymie Mulgrew and Colm Cavanagh into the lion's den the last time we met the Dubs under lights. It is certainly a great testing ground for any newcomer to senior inter-county football!
I'm not sure if Mickey will decide to put McKenna Cup absentees ilke Ricey and McCullagh in from the start. He may opt to keep both in reserve and bring them on at some stage. Anyone know why PJ Quinn did not play any part in the McKenna Cup? I would definitely like to think the Moortown man will be pushing strongly for a place in Tyrone's starting 15 this year. If Conor Gormley is unavailable, this is how I would like to see the All-Ireland champs line out against the Dubs:
J Devine
PJ Quinn - Justin McMahon - M Swift
D Harte - Joe McMahon - P Jordan
E McGinley - A Cassidy
R Mellon - S Cavanagh - T McGuigan
G Devlin - S O'Neill - O Mulligan
Ricey, C McCullagh, C Cavanagh, M Penrose, Hub, C Holmes, R Mulgrew etc etc would all be useful men to spring off the bench!
Didn't PJ play against the Ranch? I would have been sufficiently enamored with Justy performance for the Ranch to agree with O'Neill that a few games at CHB in the league would be an interesting experiment.
My mistake, tyrone86. You are right. P.J. did play against St Mary's. The bloody Omagh floodlights must have blinded me that night!!
Quote from: Redhandfan on January 19, 2009, 11:41:39 PM
I agree that Justy would make an excellent CHB or midfielder for Tyrone but, in my opinion, we really need a settled number three. No one has made that position their own since Chris Lawn.
As for Sean, I don't think we have seen the end of him as a starting midfielder. I still think Mickey opted to play Sean at FF in the early part of last year because we lacked a pivotal and influential figure in and around the opposition square. With Stevie not about, and Mugsy not in the best of form, Tyrone needed a strong and forceful player in that sector. Things are different now. We have that bit of star quality back in the full forward line and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sean playing further outfield this season - be it at CHF or MF.
I reckon McGinley has nailed one of the midfield slots but it remains to be seen whether or not the likes of Cassidy can make it alongside him. Sean's midfield experience means he will always be an option if we are struggling in this department at any point in the season. Hub and Collie Holmes aren't getting any younger either!
I reckon Stevie's gonna run riot at Croker on 31st.
Couldn't believe how good he was on Sunday.
Can't wait !!!!
Quote from: Redhandfan on January 19, 2009, 11:41:39 PM
As for Sean, I don't think we have seen the end of him as a starting midfielder. I still think Mickey opted to play Sean at FF in the early part of last year because we lacked a pivotal and influential figure in and around the opposition square. With Stevie not about, and Mugsy not in the best of form, Tyrone needed a strong and forceful player in that sector. Things are different now. We have that bit of star quality back in the full forward line and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sean playing further outfield this season - be it at CHF or MF.
I wouldn't be surprised either way here: Seán further out has its obvious attractions, but with both himself and Stevie (and A.N. Other) on the inside, that too has potentially compelling lethality for oppostion defences. QED.
Looking forward to the occasion and the game. Really only looking to see if we have a discernible pattern of play at this stage and if we have any change of approach in the back line. No miracles expected
Does anyone know if a child has a full price ticket , if there is a gate you can go to that the difference between the adults ticket and child's ticket will be refunded ? ie 15 Euro . I heard this was the case , anyone ever done this ?
Block D of the Cusack Stand Styles, ticket must be for Davin end (maybe Cusack as well)...
Thanks Croí
At this stage last year we had No McMahons established in the team, Stevie was retired, Tommy was not a regular and Brian was only getting his sight back.
I remember being at Celtic park for the NFL game thinking we've no forwards at all to win their own ball and even Sean was far from fit at FF.
Now Enda has really made MF his own and is a regular score getter so if we can add another good MF like this Cassidy lad then we have quite a lot of Big, strong lads all through the spine of the team and a possible forward line of
Mellon
Sean
Tommy
Mugsy
Son
McCullagh
With Dooher, Mulgrew, Brian McGuigan and Colm Cava to come into that team
How many of ye think Mugsy can get back into the starting 15 or will he be an impact sub from here on in?
Mugsy seems to play best when he has the pressure of being the main man in the full forward line lifted from him! I personally would love to see how a SON, Big Sean, Mugsy full forward line would operate - all ball winners, all capable of racking up big scores and scaring the opposition to death on their day! Perhaps McCullagh will move to CHF, or perhaps start in FF and roam - swapping with Sean!
really hope mickey does go for mugsy, SoN and sean in FF line on 31st, it has the potential to be explosive and with the back up around at the minute there are many different options to try if things aren't working out. Would love to see that FF line along with enda and cassidy in the middle with a HF line of tommy, Mellon and penrose! There is a lot of flexability with that unit an a lot of scoring potential plus numerous options on the bench, mickey has a lot of calls to make (an i'm sure he's glad to have that headache), but as u say fear, we're a lot healthier this time round!
Joe McMahon is a great option at half forward to. Thought he was excellent there last year.
Would it be fair to say Mugsy has been our main threat for getting goals over the past number of years
i always thought of PTG as more of a great point taker whereas Mugsy has a habit of hitting the net, especially v the Dubs.
I think I'd hit the net against us on the 31st in fairness. Could be in for a right trimming. No Alan Brogan either, he's out injured. Puts the tin lid on it for me.
Anyone have any suggestions where I can leave an Overnight bag during the match?
I am staying at a mates house in Maynooth but won't be going out there until after the match. I'll begoing straight from Belfast to Croke Park.
Normally wouldn't be a problem, but I am bring drink down with me and that will be in the bag. I assume the security won't be too enamoured at me bringing a carryout in, even though I have no intention of drinking it.
I seem to remember there being Lockers in the Busaras down at the toilets, but I also have memories of them usually being broke.
would rather see big Sean on the HF line does his best work when running at the defense
Quote from: INDIANA on January 21, 2009, 04:53:08 PM
I think I'd hit the net against us on the 31st in fairness. Could be in for a right trimming. No Alan Brogan either, he's out injured. Puts the tin lid on it for me.
Here's the panel
Alan Brogan, Fennell, Kelly, Bonner, Andrews carrying injuries, all Kilmacud Crokes players not available.
DUBLIN (Senior football squad for National Football League): Paddy Andrews (St Brigid's), Denis Bastick (Templeogue Synge St), Kevin Bonner (St Brigid's), Seán Breheny (St Jude's), Gerard Brennan (St Vincent's), Bernard Brogan (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), James Brogan (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), Barry Cahill (St Brigid's), Paul Casey (Lucan Sarsfields), Stephen Cluxton (Parnells), Paul Conlon (St Vincent's), Diarmuid Connolly (St Vincent's), Bryan Cullen (Skerries Harps), Colin Daly (Skerries Harps), Tiernan Diamond (St Vincent's), Enda Dolan (Ballymun Kickhams), Eamon Fennell (O'Toole's), Paul Flynn (Fingallians), Hugh Gill (St Vincent's), David Henry (Raheny), Alan Hubbard (Ballymun Kickhams), Conal Keaney (Ballyboden St Enda's), Declan Lally (St Brigid's), Ross McConnell (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), Thomas McGrath (Fingal Ravens), Brendan McManamon (St Jude's), David Mooney (O'Toole's), Colin Moran (Ballyboden St Enda's), Derek Murray (Round Tower's, Clondalkin), Rory O'Connor (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), Stephen O'Shaughnessy (Lucan Sarsfields), Tomás Quinn (St Vincent's), Donal Ryan (Raheny), Shane Ryan (Nh Mearnóg), Michael Savage (St Vincent's), Jason Sherlock (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), Seamus Walsh (St Mary's, Saggart), Ciarán Whelan (Raheny).
Quote from: Doohicky on January 21, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
Anyone have any suggestions where I can leave an Overnight bag during the match?
I am staying at a mates house in Maynooth but won't be going out there until after the match. I'll begoing straight from Belfast to Croke Park.
Normally wouldn't be a problem, but I am bring drink down with me and that will be in the bag. I assume the security won't be too enamoured at me bringing a carryout in, even though I have no intention of drinking it.
I seem to remember there being Lockers in the Busaras down at the toilets, but I also have memories of them usually being broke.
Ask the Tyrone goalkeeper to hang onto it for you during the match.
Quote from: dubinhell on January 21, 2009, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on January 21, 2009, 04:53:08 PM
I think I'd hit the net against us on the 31st in fairness. Could be in for a right trimming. No Alan Brogan either, he's out injured. Puts the tin lid on it for me.
Here's the panel
Alan Brogan, Fennell, Kelly, Bonner, Andrews carrying injuries, all Kilmacud Crokes players not available.
DUBLIN (Senior football squad for National Football League): Paddy Andrews (St Brigid's), Denis Bastick (Templeogue Synge St), Kevin Bonner (St Brigid's), Seán Breheny (St Jude's), Gerard Brennan (St Vincent's), Bernard Brogan (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), James Brogan (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), Barry Cahill (St Brigid's), Paul Casey (Lucan Sarsfields), Stephen Cluxton (Parnells), Paul Conlon (St Vincent's), Diarmuid Connolly (St Vincent's), Bryan Cullen (Skerries Harps), Colin Daly (Skerries Harps), Tiernan Diamond (St Vincent's), Enda Dolan (Ballymun Kickhams), Eamon Fennell (O'Toole's), Paul Flynn (Fingallians), Hugh Gill (St Vincent's), David Henry (Raheny), Alan Hubbard (Ballymun Kickhams), Conal Keaney (Ballyboden St Enda's), Declan Lally (St Brigid's), Ross McConnell (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), Thomas McGrath (Fingal Ravens), Brendan McManamon (St Jude's), David Mooney (O'Toole's), Colin Moran (Ballyboden St Enda's), Derek Murray (Round Tower's, Clondalkin), Rory O'Connor (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), Stephen O'Shaughnessy (Lucan Sarsfields), Tomás Quinn (St Vincent's), Donal Ryan (Raheny), Shane Ryan (Nh Mearnóg), Michael Savage (St Vincent's), Jason Sherlock (St Oliver Plunkett's/ER), Seamus Walsh (St Mary's, Saggart), Ciarán Whelan (Raheny).
There's still the makings of a good starting 15 there. Sherlock still togging out.
Quote from: ONeill on January 19, 2009, 11:06:37 PM
Justy did a great job last year at FB, but I'd love to see him further out to see how he'd perform for the county - maybe swap with the brother.
RHF, do you think we've seen the end of Sean as a starting MF in terms of a Tyrone side at full strength?
Would love to see Justy tried out the field to. Not sure if we can cope without him at full back though. A team like this later in the year would look very strong on paper anyway:
Packie
Ricey
Joe McMahon
PJ Quinn
Harte
Gormley
Jordan
McGinley
Justy
Dooher
B McGuigan
T McGuigan
O'Neill
Cavanagh
Mulligan
Quote from: INDIANA on January 21, 2009, 04:53:08 PM
I think I'd hit the net against us on the 31st in fairness. Could be in for a right trimming. No Alan Brogan either, he's out injured. Puts the tin lid on it for me.
I met a couple of panelists in the gym just there - they are doing a lot of gym work at the mo and are very leaden legged - it's not going to be pretty especially after Tyrone's turnout against Monaghan..
Quote from: INDIANA on January 21, 2009, 04:53:08 PM
I think I'd hit the net against us on the 31st in fairness. Could be in for a right trimming. No Alan Brogan either, he's out injured. Puts the tin lid on it for me.
I predict at least a 10 point win for Dublin ! ;)
agreed heffo , if we get within 5 points it'll be a very good performance. We don't seem to be targetting this game at all. if tyrone really want to do a number on us they will. depends on their selection.
Any word on when the Tyrone panel is announced?
Think I read somewhere that entertainment starts at 6.30. It sounds like the fireworks and lighting display wont be on until after the game is over so not sure exactly what the entertainment in before the game. The fact that they havent announced what it is makes me think it might not be that great!
Not too many will want to be sticking around after the game to see the fireworks. Particularly the losing side.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 21, 2009, 06:15:26 PM
Would love to see Justy tried out the field to. Not sure if we can cope without him at full back though.
Thats it, we waited so long for somebody to come in and really make that FB position their own and Id be loathe to start messing with it again. Leave Justy at No.3 for the moment.
Quite positive at the minute for Tyrone. The forward line looked weak during the NFL last year but men like Tommy, McCullagh and Penrose really stepped up to it during the championship. On top of that we have the prospect of a fit SON for the first time in years and Mugsy and Mulgrew hopefully injury free compared to last season. Brian McGuigan is another who will hopefully benefit from more games having only returned to the team last summer after a long absence .
Of course you never know whats ahead and thats the lesson from 2004 and 2006 but with a bit of luck Tyrone should be well placed for the months to come.
What's the latest on Brian Mac?
Was it his ankle he had the operation on?
Has his vision returned not completely or still not perfect?
These Dubs are fairly playing down expectation for this match.
Only 2 weeks ago Tyrone were still on holiday in Florida and we were thinking we might get hockeyed.
Can anyone smell a trap?
Trapper Tony?
Quote from: hardstation on January 21, 2009, 11:26:12 PM
Hope the Sidewalk Music bar show the fireworks.
What would you be doing going near that kip?
From gaa.ie(http://www.hoganstand.com/Common/ImageGallery/crokeparklightscele.jpg)
QuoteGAA 125 Time to Celebrate
GAA President, Nickey Brennan, today outlined further information in relation to the upcoming Allianz National Football League game between Dublin and Tyrone which takes place in Croke Park on Saturday 31st January. This game will see the launch for the GAA's 125th anniversary celebrations.
He said "The GAA has been the cornerstone of Irish community life for 125 years. It has enabled communities to achieve a true sense of identity and pride in place. During Ireland's most challenging times the GAA helped to inspire people through its games and cultural activities".
Mr. Brennan added, "The opening Allianz National Football League game will be a night of celebration of the achievements of our Association over those 125 years and will serve as an inspiration to all current members".
The President reiterates the immense contribution the GAA has made to Irish society and many events will be held in clubs, schools and other venues across Ireland and overseas in 2009 which will celebrate and commemorate this milestone year. Saturday 31st January will be a night of celebration and festivities for all the family and will invoke a sense of pride in the GAA."
This unique event will be an inspiring mix of music, entertainment and a lighting and fireworks extravaganza for all the family, which will wrap Croke Park stadium in vibrant colour, projections and stunning visuals.
A program of lively entertainment will be hosted by MC Hector Ó H hEochagáin. Joining Hector in the crowd will be thousands of supporters from Dublin, Tyrone and other parts of the country plus representatives from 1,000 clubs on the night. A specially commissioned soundtrack from Larry Mullen of U2 also featuring Micheal Ó Muircheartaigh will be premiered on the occasion.
Tickets are selling fast so purchase now to avoid disappointment from the participating counties, on www.gaa.ie or from Ticketmaster outlets nationwide.
Just saw that. Holy Mother of God.....
what time is throw-in? it says on the tickets 7.00p.m. but on the tyrone website 7.30 p.m. dont want to end up like yer man in todays irish news :D
Quote from: clarshack on January 22, 2009, 10:07:10 PM
what time is throw-in? it says on the tickets 7.00p.m. but on the tyrone website 7.30 p.m. dont want to end up like yer man in todays irish news :D
He was from Armagh. Armagh men have form for that kind of thing....
Feckin Kerry colours.
With the Euro being what it is at the moment, its gonna be a feckin' dear weekend in Dulin for us Tyrone ones !!!!
really looking forward to it with a week to go. hotel book and just got my hands free tickets as well, only thing missing now is a few girls for after
QuoteWith the Euro being what it is at the moment, its gonna be a feckin' dear weekend in Dulin for us Tyrone ones !!!!
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Quote from: INDIANA on January 21, 2009, 04:53:08 PM
I think I'd hit the net against us on the 31st in fairness. Could be in for a right trimming. No Alan Brogan either, he's out injured. Puts the tin lid on it for me.
For fecks sake. The one glimmer of hope we had....
I see we're going to be rotating the captaincy during the league!
Anyone know if Ross McConnell is a full back or a midfielder in this panel? Likewise Dave Henry - a back or a forward?
I hear Henry plays a bit of club football in the forwards but from what I've seen of him he certainly isn't a county standard forward.
Quote from: Zulu on January 23, 2009, 08:57:48 AM
I hear Henry plays a bit of club football in the forwards but from what I've seen of him he certainly isn't a county standard forward.
To my knowledge, he's played two games as a forward for Dublin - against Westmeath or Fermanagh at home in the league about three years ago, and in the recent Blue Stars game he played centre forward. He scored six points from play if I'm not mistaken in the Blue stars game.
Zulu, he Regularly plays up front and scores 3-4 points from play per game. He'll definitely get a shot up front in the league
Fair enough lads you'd obviously know more about him than I would but he doesn't strike me as a scoring IC forward, though he might work out as a hard working link player.
Quote from: hardstation on January 22, 2009, 11:57:07 PM
Will still be good craic paying 5 pound a pint and watching half a million go up in the air.
a mate went to dublin last weekend for the UFC and said anywhere he went it was nearly 6 pound a pint.
Zulu, he kicks points from corner back when playing for dublin, believe me his right leg is every bit a good as bernard brogans.
But the problem we have is he's our best man marker and we've no-one at the back to replace him.
Dublin currently have no settled full back line and half forward line. As a result we struggle against the top teams.
Just to say Eamon Fennell is out as well with a knee injury.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 23, 2009, 09:53:50 AM
Zulu, he kicks points from corner back when playing for dublin.
Jaysus, there's no counteracting that. Sure Penrose can only hit it 20 yards.
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Quote from: INDIANA on January 23, 2009, 09:53:50 AM
Zulu, he kicks points from corner back when playing for dublin.
Jaysus, there's no counteracting that. Sure Penrose can only hit it 20 yards.
He didn't say which end he kicks them into ;)
Quote from: Hound on January 23, 2009, 08:53:40 AM
Anyone know if Ross McConnell is a full back or a midfielder in this panel? Likewise Dave Henry - a back or a forward?
I guess Henry will be wing forwrd, Ross will be a midfielder behind Ryan & Whelan. Will be interesting to see what the fullback line is...there's even rumours of Bastic playing FB!!
Has anyone noticed how the build up to this game is very like the QF last year. One side being hotly tipped over the other, with fans on one side completely playing down their chances etc.
Well lads if he has as good a right leg as Bernard Brogan I'd play him in the forward line, full stop. You don't put that type of scoring potential in the full back line, regardless of his abilities there.
Quote from: dubinhell on January 23, 2009, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: Hound on January 23, 2009, 08:53:40 AM
Anyone know if Ross McConnell is a full back or a midfielder in this panel? Likewise Dave Henry - a back or a forward?
I guess Henry will be wing forwrd, Ross will be a midfielder behind Ryan & Whelan. Will be interesting to see what the fullback line is...there's even rumours of Bastic playing FB!!
Bastic is being tried at full back, but can't see him being risked there for the game in Croker - I'd have serious reservations about him back there - pace & discipline being two concerns..
He'll be tried at centre half forward, he really does have a sweet right foot and can score from range. Its a question of whether he can make the transition at that level.
We've no players for the full back line Zulu, absolutely threadbare there and he was one of our better players at the back.
Indiana I rate B. Brogan very highly, he's better than his brother IMO, so if Henry has that scoring ability I'd start him up front. Finding genuine scoring threats is the hardest part of management so if you have one you play him. Especially when you already know he has the ability and attitude to play senior IC football, if Dublin play the two Brogans, Henry, Connolly and Keaney they could afford to play a defensive minded sixth forward to help clog up the area in front of the FB line. There isn't a defender worth his salt playing IC football who'll be too concerned about a forward who can run all day, one that can put the ball between the posts now that's another matter.
In Dublin's case I'd disagree, we have enough scoring forwards but no natural half forwards. There is a world of difference between the 2 positions. We got slaughtered by the tyrone half back line last year because we had too many inside forwards accomodated out there, who can't tackle, track back etc.
We also lack a ball winner in the full forward line, before you can score you have to get the ball. Against tyrone last year the ball was coming out as quickly as it went in. My idea this year would be to have the 2 brogans playing off a ball winner(big or small) and try the likes of henry and cullen in the half forwards ( players who can score a couple of points and track back) But the problem have is we have no full back and few tight corner backs. All of Dublin's games (bar tyrone last year) in recent years are characterised by putting up winning scores but conceding a larger amount as well.
I don't see where your disagreeing with me Indiana, if Henry is as good as you say I'd play the two Brogans either side of Keaney (who I think is a GOOD BALL WINNER AND A FINE ALL ROUND FULL FORWARD, (sorry caps lock) and then play Connolly and Henry as the two wing forwards. Play a defensive player (maybe Cullen) as center forward with a roaming role designed to open up the middle of opposition backlines and provide cover for your own backline. Cullen isn't really a classic anything but he is an intelligent good footballer so I'd leave him follow the ball and link up play while looking to get back and fill up the scoring zone when Dublin turnover ball. I'd keep Keaney and Bernard close to goal and leave Alan a bit more freedom to roamin the space between the full forward and the half forward lines.
Quote from: Zulu on January 23, 2009, 12:38:54 PM
I don't see where your disagreeing with me Indiana, if Henry is as good as you say I'd play the two Brogans either side of Keaney (who I think is a GOOD BALL WINNER AND A FINE ALL ROUND FULL FORWARD, (sorry caps lock) and then play Connolly and Henry as the two wing forwards. Play a defensive player (maybe Cullen) as center forward with a roaming role designed to open up the middle of opposition backlines and provide cover for your own backline. Cullen isn't really a classic anything but he is an intelligent good footballer so I'd leave him follow the ball and link up play while looking to get back and fill up the scoring zone when Dublin turnover ball. I'd keep Keaney and Bernard close to goal and leave Alan a bit more freedom to roamin the space between the full forward and the half forward lines.
you are making an assumption that the CHB will trapse up the pitch after the Dublin CHF to leave the space you describe. Without your CHF who will be the playmaker to provide quality ball in the Dublin full forward line ?
You realise that this is all futile, if Tyrone defend en mass and attack in the same way, the roming CHF paying in front of the Dublin full back line will be as usefull as a chocolate fireguard.
Not presuming anything, in fact I'd say most center backs would hold their position but with an intelligent competent footballer like Cullen he could carry or cause over laps and thus work the ball into positions from which ball can be delivered into the full forward line. If Cullen (or whoever played the role) picked up enough ball and used it well the center back maybe forced out to mark him and then you create the space down the middle.
As for when you turn the ball over I think if you fill up the scoring zone no matter what style of football you play it will be difficult to create good scoring opportunities. Besides he could also meet attacks further out the field if the first option wasn't working.
Are you a relation to him by any chance ?
Not at all never even met the man, do you not rate him as a footballer? And anyway I was using Cullen as an example of a player maybe suited to this role but I think any good footballer might cause havoc in this way.
I think hes a fine footballer, but i would disagree with your masterplan. You are making various assumptions, if this happened and that happens etc. . You also mention crowding the scoring zone, however, i would remind you Tyrone have a vast experience playing against this. Armagh brought this to a new level, and with no disrespect intended, the Dublin defence is a long way from the calire of the Armagh defence over the last few years. A simple masterplan doesnt work against Tyrone. Positions are not held in the traditional way. Everyone attacks and everyone defends. The easiest way to beat Tyrone is to beat them in effort. To do that Dublin have to improve in overall hunger, concentration levels for the entire game and above all have a greater work rate.
I disagree you will never beat Tyrone on effort alone. I've spent quite some time studying them for my own coaching benefit. Tyrone love to hit teams on the break so they usually withdraw most or all of the half forward line and try to suck the half backs up with them. They crowd the scoring zone, turnover the opposition and the half backs and half forwards attack in numbers .With the pace they have they have overlaps all over the place. Donegal with Mc Eniff beat them in 2003? by instructing his half backs not to follow the tyrone half forwards back. As a result the match became a dogfight with both teams using the same tactics against each other. Kerry tried a variation on that this yearbut didn't have the discipline and I think Tyrone are unlikely to be beaten twice with the same tactics.
The key difference between tyrone and the rest at the moment is that they have natural players comfortable in any position and they love drawing the opposition into areas where they aren't comfortable.
To beat them you got to tactically outhink them which isn't easy.
Anyone want to meet in the premium Canal end bar for a few before/during/after the game/entertainment?
QuoteAnyone want to meet in the premium Canal end bar for a few before/during/after the game/entertainment?
Only if you're not a banker ;)
Quote from: Bensars on January 23, 2009, 01:33:42 PM
I think hes a fine footballer, but i would disagree with your masterplan. You are making various assumptions, if this happened and that happens etc. . You also mention crowding the scoring zone, however, i would remind you Tyrone have a vast experience playing against this. Armagh brought this to a new level, and with no disrespect intended, the Dublin defence is a long way from the calire of the Armagh defence over the last few years. A simple masterplan doesnt work against Tyrone. Positions are not held in the traditional way. Everyone attacks and everyone defends. The easiest way to beat Tyrone is to beat them in effort. To do that Dublin have to improve in overall hunger, concentration levels for the entire game and above all have a greater work rate.
First off the the 'masterplan' as you refer to it isn't just to beat Tyrone but is a tactic that can be repeated throughout the year, not necessarily all the time but certainly something that can be used regularly. Secondly any tactical plan will have assumptions built in, but with this one whether the center back goes with the CF or holds the middle there are drawbacks for the opposition. Like any tactic you gain in one way but lose in other ways, no tactic is fool proof, if there was one everybody would be doing it. Thirdly regardless of tactics to win football matches you have to match the workrate of your opponents (at least) and you have to have good footballers all over the pitch. Tyrone don't win AI because of workrate alone but because they have some of the best footballers in Ireland.
I've used this tactic myself and it generally causes opponents problems, will it guarantee victory? of course not does it have draw backs? yes, has it failed miserably on occasion? yes, definitely but with the scoring power of Dublin and the footballing ability of Cullen I think it could reap dividends for Dublin.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 23, 2009, 02:16:55 PM
I disagree you will never beat Tyrone on effort alone. I've spent quite some time studying them for my own coaching benefit. Tyrone love to hit teams on the break so they usually withdraw most or all of the half forward line and try to suck the half backs up with them. They crowd the scoring zone, turnover the opposition and the half backs and half forwards attack in numbers .With the pace they have they have overlaps all over the place. Donegal with Mc Eniff beat them in 2003? by instructing his half backs not to follow the tyrone half forwards back. As a result the match became a dogfight with both teams using the same tactics against each other. Kerry tried a variation on that this yearbut didn't have the discipline and I think Tyrone are unlikely to be beaten twice with the same tactics.
The key difference between tyrone and the rest at the moment is that they have natural players comfortable in any position and they love drawing the opposition into areas where they aren't comfortable.
To beat them you got to tactically outhink them which isn't easy.
Would love to have berated you for this, but that's close to perfect.
Tyrone's gameplan (or 'system' as Brolly calls it) is well known but hard to counteract due to the quality and versatility of the players executing it. That's why I despair when pundits claim that man-for-man Kerry are better.
Excellent analysis there Indiana. Thank God you're not Manager of Dublin for the 31st.
It's the secret to how they create space and created so many Easy shooting chances last year from that middle section as Brolly kept saying.
An article on the Dublin/Tyrone rivalry (from the Dub perspective) is in today's Times (London).
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2009, 02:19:27 AM
Help required.
What do you do after the fireworks?
Could head back to the hotel and drink until the morning but don't want to. Well, want to do something before that.
Sidewalk music bar is to be avoided according to heffo, even though it has provided some great rips in the past.
Thinking of heading out to Lucan and torturing Laoislad.
Aye, and I'll probably be starving.
Where are you staying?
got my ticket the other night - lower cusack section 309 - happy days roughly at midfield :) - though my seat not covered and heard it could be raining next sat in dublin - dont fancy that at all!
Is the fireworks, etc definetly on after the game? anyone know why this is?
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2009, 03:36:47 PM
Quote from: heffo on January 26, 2009, 08:24:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2009, 02:19:27 AM
Help required.
What do you do after the fireworks?
Could head back to the hotel and drink until the morning but don't want to. Well, want to do something before that.
Sidewalk music bar is to be avoided according to heffo, even though it has provided some great rips in the past.
Thinking of heading out to Lucan and torturing Laoislad.
Aye, and I'll probably be starving.
Where are you staying?
Maldron, Smithfield, used to be the Comfort Inn. Haven't a clue about it really.
Plenty of decent boozers down that direction - The Cobblestone is decent and is close by - even stay up around Dorset st - The Sidewalk is a shi*hole
Get a taxi and head up around Camden st/Harcourt st - Devitts, Cassidys, Bleeding horse, Anseo, Flannerys & Coppers
Me and a few lads are thinking of going to the Cobblestone which is up at the top of Smithfield.
I've not been myself but belief it has great Trad music there on every night
Does nobody know how these fireworks are gonna work
Surely they have to do them before the match or at half time?
Will it not be dangerous firing them straight up over the stadium or over the neighbouring houses?
Pretty sure they are after the game. I'd say they're worried that the crowd won't be in on time before the game. Half time is ruled out because its a 20 minute show plus I assume a few minutes to set it up.
Does anyone know the schedule of events for saturday?start times etc...
four of us got tickets for a corporate box so hopefully it will do the job although i have heard the atmosphere is poor in them.
Booked in here for the night, although if its anything like the last night in dublin the bed will not see much use.
http://www.barryshotel.com/index.htm (http://www.barryshotel.com/index.htm)
Dublin team to be named tonight.
Injury news from hill16.ie after last night's training session:
Blaine Kelly, Eamon Fennell both took a minor part in the training.
Alan Brogan is not expected to be able to play until the end of February.
Paddy Andrews trained with the squad fully.
Tomas Quinn is ruled out for several weeks with a groin problem.
Kevin Bonner is carrying a knock and is doubtful.
Colin Moran is also carrying a long-term injury (hip) which may require surgery and so will be out of playing contention for several weeks.
From the HoganStand
Harte rewards McKenna Cup sextet - 27 January 2009
Mickey Harte's squad for Saturday night's glamour clash with Dublin includes six players who shone during the McKenna Cup.
The All-Ireland champions meet the Dubs in the GAA's 125th-anniversary extravaganza under lights at Croke Park this weekend, and the Tyrone boss has recognised the McKenna Cup form of six relatively-unknown names.
There are four newcomers in the squad: Gareth Devlin of Stewartstown, Omagh's Jason McAnulla, Augher midfielder Aidan Cassidy and Dromore's Sean O'Neill.
O'Neill's clubmate Shaun O'Neill and Killyclogher's Martin Swift have been recalled to the panel. All six players caught Mickey's eye during the subsidiary competition - four with his experimental Tyrone side, with the two O'Neills starring in the colours of St Mary's and Queen's.
The players will have to stay on their toes, however, as the Tyrone manager has stressed that his panel will change as the season progresses, with a number of key men set to return from injury, including Brian Dooher, Brian McGuigan, Pascal McConnell, Damien McCaul and Ciaran Gourley.
Dermot Carlin will also come into the reckoning when he returns home from Australia.
The Dublin team trained together in Clanna Gael last weekend.
Blaine Kelly, Eamon Fennell both took a minor part in the training.
Alan Brogan is not expected to be able to play until the end of February.
Paddy Andrews trained with the squad fully.
Tomas Quinn is ruled out for several weeks with a groin problem.
The team for the Tyrone game will be announced on Tuesday night. Kevin Bonner is carrying a knock and is
doubtful for the Tyrone game. Colin Moran is also carrying a long-term injury (hip) which may require surgery and so will be out of playing contention for several weeks.
The team will be announced on Tuesday night.
Also missing Griffin,Nolan Magee and Vaughan from Crokes. We will have a rookie full back and full forward.
Hopefully Harte will take pity on us and field a team of kids. Can't believe the odds for this game, ludricrious.
Are they expecting a large crowd for this?
Newspapers at the weekend quoted "GAA Sources" as saying over 70,000 tickets sold as of the weekend.
What are the odds indiana ?
Quote from: Canalman on January 27, 2009, 11:46:22 AM
Newspapers at the weekend quoted "GAA Sources" as saying over 70,000 tickets sold as of the weekend.
I'd say that's about right - there are plenty of tickets available from the county board..
apparently bensars we are 5/4. they are 4/5. christ unless tyrone leave out a lot of the big guns we should be about 3/4-1.
Dublin are a fantastic price - 13/8 against - last time they were 1/3.
Any idesa on the tyrone line up?
How about something like this:
JD
Swift,justy,ricey,
davey h,joey,jordan
Cassidy & mcginley
t.mcguigan,Cav,G.devlin
Snowy,Son,mccullagh
no ppint having new blood in the squad if you dont use em ;)
There'll be a rush on tickets before the weekend.
I know plenty of lads who say they're going but haven't actually tried to get a ticket yet.
Dubs team named:
Cluxton, P Andrews, D Bastic, A Hubbard, B Cullen, G Brennan, B Cahill, R McConnell, C Whelan, J Brogan, D Henry, T Diamond, B Brogan, J Sherlock, C Keaney
It's a fairly strange team selection - Bastic at full back is a huge gamble - you may remember him from a few red card appearances over the last few years.
Diamond from Vincents is worth a look, Andrews is not a corner back despite playing there in the Sigerson last year and briefly for the Dubs before his red card against Meath
Glad to see Henry at centre forward..
Quote from: hardstation on January 27, 2009, 10:02:07 PM
Anyone to look out for
You can join the rest of the Dublin team in looking out for Ciaran Whelan, during one of his vanishing acts (Ouch! Will we pay for that)
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 27, 2009, 10:12:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 27, 2009, 10:02:07 PM
Anyone to look out for
You can join the rest of the Dublin team in looking out for Ciaran Whelan, during one of his vanishing acts (Ouch! Will we pay for that)
Maybe you'll sacrifice one of your players again to 'cut off the oxygen' or maybe you'll play football with all 15..
David Henry named as captain for the game
Interesting selection alright. Hard to know how they'll fare against the champs but it'll be good to see how the new lads fare out.
On their day, that's a decent and tricky full forward line.
Pale faced reading the selection, Please mickey leave stephen O neill at home.
Looking forward to creamy pints of stout in Fagan's followed hopefully by the opening 2 points of the league campaign. Would like to see something along these lines.
Devine, Ricey, Joe, Swift, Davey, Justy, Jordan, Enda, Cassidy, Tommy, Sean, Devlin, McCullagh, O'Neill, Mugsy
Think the McMahon's are inter changeable, but have a sneaky suspicion the beard may try out Justin at 6. Think Cassidy and Devlin are both well worthy of a starting place, though Mulgrew may get the nod over the Stewardstown attacker, or even mulligan.
No matter what side the Jackeens send out, they'll be mightily fired up to put one over Tyrone. I think they've had enough of us...
Each club got two tickets AFAIK, so there's plenty about, whether that'll translate into bums on the seats is another matter.
Just seen that the Enniscrone ego (premium version) is reffing this one. Mighty, so it'll be a cardfest and the new rules will be exposed as the sham that they are, here's hoping anyway.
Interesting Dublin selection. An all new half forward line - a line that Pillar often struggled to get right and usually played two corner forwards and one half back. This time we've 3 proper half forwards (even if Henry has played as a defender for his intercounty career to date).
Glad to see Ross get a go at midfield.
On paper the full back line looks the weakest, and they are really being thrown into the Lions Den given the lads they'll likely be up against. Extraordinary how long its been since Dublin gave a full back a decent run in the full back position.
Good to see the lads looking forward to it: Henry speaks sensibly in this morning's Times
The repositioning of Henry in the forward line, where he will also wear the captain's armband, is something the player himself was half-expecting: "Pat was always going to try out some new things, given he's the new manager," he said. "It's different, sure, but then you have to be comfortable now no matter where you play. Tyrone have probably proved that more than any other team, and last year, against us, had players playing all over the place. It has to be the big plus about their game.
"Of course, just because it works for them doesn't mean it might work for someone else, but I think with the size of Croke Park as well, you have to be comfortable outside your own little zone. But I've played in the forwards, and midfield, with the club, Raheny, and would be comfortable no matter what jersey I get.
"But, overall, it couldn't be starting a better way. A big game, a big crowd, under lights. And regardless of what happened last year, playing against the All-Ireland champions, regardless of who they are, is something to look forward to. Having said that, we haven't a whole lot done.
"We'd a good week training out in Spain, but I think every player is nervous going out for the first game of the league. We're all starting all over again."
Henry was speaking earlier yesterday at the announcement of Setanta's league coverage for 2009, which begins with Saturday's game at Croke Park.
They will be sharing league coverage with TG4 over the coming months, alternating between football and hurling.
Yet, the league, Henry admitted, is still all about trying to juggle short-term and long-term ambitions: "Nobody goes out to lose any game. That goes without saying. But the league is still something of a process, about trying to build a team for the championship. Now, if you go and do win every game then it's a great bonus, and the best teams in the country usually do win, because they're the best teams. If we do end up in the play-off then well and good, but it will still be a building process for the championship.
"But we do need to bring more consistency to our game. We've played well in games when we needed to play well, and hopefully that will come this year. But we would still feel we're not that far away. Losing to Tyrone the way we did last year was hard, but you can't dwell on it. We've tried to learn from it. As players, we've all looked at the game.
"Hopefully we're a better team as a result. Losses like that should be character-building."
Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2009, 07:14:24 AM
Interesting Dublin selection. An all new half forward line - a line that Pillar often struggled to get right and usually played two corner forwards and one half back. This time we've 3 proper half forwards (even if Henry has played as a defender for his intercounty career to date).
Glad to see Ross get a go at midfield.
On paper the full back line looks the weakest, and they are really being thrown into the Lions Den given the lads they'll likely be up against. Extraordinary how long its been since Dublin gave a full back a decent run in the full back position.
james brogan is a defender hound , he isn't a forward. Diamond is a defensive type half forward but worth a shot . Henry is a welcome move as he plays there at half forward for his club. None of the full back line play there for their club. paddy Andrews is completely wasted there. Top class club forward and because some bright spark in DCU thinks he's a back we'll never see him in his best position. Bastic plays midfield for his club . Hubbard is a good player and one of the few hghly adaptable players we have. But I'd be worried about the others. Dublin need to try things but I don't think this is the game to do it in.
I would say we will play 10 to 11 players behind the ball when we turn it over on my reading of that team.
Where are the pints a bit cheaper? I'm galled at the thoughts of paying £4-£5 sterling for a stout!
Quotejames brogan is a defender hound , he isn't a forward. Diamond is a defensive type half forward but worth a shot . Henry is a welcome move as he plays there at half forward for his club. None of the full back line play there for their club. paddy Andrews is completely wasted there. Top class club forward and because some bright spark in DCU thinks he's a back we'll never see him in his best position. Bastic plays midfield for his club....
James Brogan never played in the backs for Brigids, only when he went to Plunketts as they had a dull complement of good forwards so wing forward should be nothing new to him....in saying that I'd have doubts whether he is up to it....Agreed on on Paddy Andrews being wasted, but he has a lot to learn as a forward too - Niall Moyna is involved with the Dubs and DCU so maybe he is behind it.....Bastic isn't the cousin of an intercounty player - O'Neill will destoy him or Bastick will be sent off or both.
Quote from: liihb on January 28, 2009, 09:26:56 AM
Quotejames brogan is a defender hound , he isn't a forward. Diamond is a defensive type half forward but worth a shot . Henry is a welcome move as he plays there at half forward for his club. None of the full back line play there for their club. paddy Andrews is completely wasted there. Top class club forward and because some bright spark in DCU thinks he's a back we'll never see him in his best position. Bastic plays midfield for his club....
James Brogan never played in the backs for Brigids, only when he went to Plunketts as they had a dull complement of good forwards so wing forward should be nothing new to him....in saying that I'd have doubts whether he is up to it....Agreed on on Paddy Andrews being wasted, but he has a lot to learn as a forward too - Niall Moyna is involved with the Dubs and DCU so maybe he is behind it.....Bastic isn't the cousin of an intercounty player - O'Neill will destoy him or Bastick will be sent off or both.
I'd agree with your sentiments on Brogan, I'm not sure he's good enough for that level but hopefully he'll prove all of us doubters wrong. I just don't believe paddy is a back. Even against Louth he struggled for DCU last weekend. But he's one of the best club forwards in the county and in my view thats where he should be playing.
Sharon Shannon and Mundy to play in Croker
The GAA has announced the full programme of events for the launch of the 125 celebrations for Saturday night the 31st of January.
Sharon Shannon and Mundy will entertain crowds as part of the celebrations at Croke Park, marking 125 years of the GAA. The pair, whose duet 'Galway Girl' was the undisputed chart success of Summer 2008, will perform at half time on the night.
"The quality musical act together with an exciting game of football and also a specially designed lighting and fireworks spectacular promises to be a night to remember. So bring the whole family to mark this monumental moment in the GAA's history." Jarlath Burns Chairman of 125 Committee.
The entertainment starts at 6.30pm with Hector Ó H hEochagáin and throw-in of the Dublin v All Ireland Champions Tyrone game commences at 7.30pm. Half time entertainment will feature Sharon Shannon and Mundy and 9pm sees the start of "Iconic moments" a show featuring some GAA highlights.
The crowd will then be entertained by a spectacular lighting and firework display which will light up the whole stadium. Larry Mullen's specially designed soundtrack, incorporating a selection of contemporary and traditional Irish music, will feature Micheal ó Muircheartaigh's bi-lingual tribute to the GAA which will accompany the firework display.
Get to Croke Park early to experience the full programme of entertainment. A limited number of tickets are still available, however stand tickets are almost sold out. So purchase your ticket now to avoid disappointment from the participating counties, on www.gaa.ie or from Ticketmaster outlets nationwide.
Ticket Prices are as follows:
Stand €20
Stand Juvenile(Designated sections of Davin and Cusack Stands) €5
(Juveniles must be accompanied by an adult)
Senior Citizens/Students (with I.D.) (Davin and Cusack Stands only) €10
(Must purchase full price ticket – refund available at Block D
turnstiles to rear of Cusack Stand prior to entry)
Terrace €15
Wheelchair and Attendant Passes €20
Group Passes per juvenile, 1 adult per 10 juveniles free of charge €3
This will be a spectacular occasion, even added to may I say by the Bastick case in full back for Dublin - the man who started the battle of Omagh from Full forward.
Quote from: rrhf on January 28, 2009, 02:43:39 PM
This will be a spectacular occasion, even added to may I say by the Bastick case in full back for Dublin - the man who started the battle of Omagh from Full forward.
You mean one of the 'heroes' of the Battle of Omagh ;)
Quote from: rrhf on January 28, 2009, 02:43:39 PM
This will be a spectacular occasion, even added to may I say by the Bastick case in full back for Dublin - the man who started the battle of Omagh from Full forward.
Bastic was midfield that day.
McMenamin started the row that day when he ran in and punched Derek Murray after Derek had won the ball cleanly. Check the video.
Interesting that Gilroy has brought Bastic back: either he's improved as a footballer, or Gilroy feels that a physical/aggressive edge will be important.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 28, 2009, 03:01:44 PM
Interesting that Gilroy has brought Bastic back: either he's improved as a footballer, or Gilroy feels that a physical/aggressive edge will be important.
Some would say that with all the red cards that is enough is enough, but he was outstanding for the Juniors in their AI win last year and could still play a role - his temperament is hugely questionable though.
I don't think he has the turn of pace, the temperament or the discipline for full back - hopefully I'm proven wrong.
Our options at full back are so thin that a Palestinian would feel rich in comparison. Have to try somebody, he's big and quick and used to play there at underage. To be fair he's no worse an option than anyone else, but he needs 4/5 games there not just one. So they have to give him a sustained run. He's on a hiding to nothing on saturday, the best defenders in Ireland can't cope with SON.
Quote from: rrhf on January 28, 2009, 02:43:39 PM
Bastick case in full back for Dublin - the man who started the battle of Omagh from Full forward.
Jaysus, not again :D
Tyrone have 3 SoN's in the squad for Sat so that's treble Tyrone trouble & try saying that after 10 pints.
It will be an interesting match to test the new rules with it LIVE on setanta, near full house expected and the recent rivalries still in mind.
Is this the third time we've had the Dubs first in the NFL after being AI champs or was it later on in 2005? They were not clean matches.
Ye Dubs have certainly lowered expectations since Christmas as most Tyrone fans thought we would have been well off the pace back in December.
Not many of ye are mentioing Colm Cavanagh? Is he injured or not likely to get a starting place?
A lot are expecting Stevie O'Neill to be MOTM already. Its as if he was never gone.
Talking to a very good sensible lifelong Gael who said If yer man Bastick lasts the entire match on Stevie O Neill without incurring a yellow card, he is prepared to run bucko naked around the field during the fireworks display.... I feel it could be a case of which curly finger he gets - the refs or the managers.
I don't know why the Dubs supporters here are being so pessimistic. Maybe a lot of the comments are tongue in cheek, but there seems to be the definite feeling that the result of this game is a foregone conclusion. I think Tyrone will win, but by no more than 3 or 4 in a fairly high scoring game.
Are many Tyronies expecting many changes in defence from your McKenna Cup team? Perhaps it went a bit unnoticed by some but Tyrone have been very loose in defence in their first few matches this year with 0-16, 2-11 and 0-17 conceded. Maybe Dublin can get a bit more joy than they expect.
Quote from: rrhf on January 28, 2009, 05:07:03 PM
Talking to a very good sensible lifelong Gael who said If yer man Bastick lasts the entire match on Stevie O Neill without incurring a yellow card, he is prepared to run bucko naked around the field during the fireworks display
Hard to argue, any time I've seen Bastick his temper has let him down.
Not a great footballer either!
I think that's harsh on Bastic. He is tough and a clumsy tackler, so he is a yellow card machine. But he's never delivered a really dirty blow for the Dubs that resulted in a straight red.
Of course I don't think he's ever gone thru a Dubs match without picking up a yellow and picked up 2 yellows about 3 times.
I hope any diving by either team is highlighted in the media.
Quote from: AFS on January 28, 2009, 05:16:32 PM
I don't know why the Dubs supporters here are being so pessimistic. Maybe a lot of the comments are tongue in cheek, but there seems to be the definite feeling that the result of this game is a foregone conclusion. I think Tyrone will win, but by no more than 3 or 4 in a fairly high scoring game.
Are many Tyronies expecting many changes in defence from your McKenna Cup team? Perhaps it went a bit unnoticed by some but Tyrone have been very loose in defence in their first few matches this year with 0-16, 2-11 and 0-17 conceded. Maybe Dublin can get a bit more joy than they expect.
Tyrone's defence has been very open so far this year. Think the Dublin fans are trying to do the opposite to what they did before last years quarter final and hope that it will lead to a different result. Not overly concerned about our defence as we still have Gormley,McMenamin,Justy McMahon and Gourley to come back at some point.
Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2009, 05:41:18 PM
I think that's harsh on Bastic. He is tough and a clumsy tackler, so he is a yellow card machine. But he's never delivered a really dirty blow for the Dubs that resulted in a straight red.
O'Byrne Cup match last year (against Carlow I think) was a straight red and deservedly so if I recall correctly...
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 28, 2009, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2009, 05:41:18 PM
I think that's harsh on Bastic. He is tough and a clumsy tackler, so he is a yellow card machine. But he's never delivered a really dirty blow for the Dubs that resulted in a straight red.
O'Byrne Cup match last year (against Carlow I think) was a straight red and deservedly so if I recall correctly...
It was against Carlow alright down there, but if memory serves me correct he reacted to a dirty stroke moreso than he being the agressor (which I think was Hound's point)
Quote from: his holiness nb on January 28, 2009, 05:23:15 PM
Quote from: rrhf on January 28, 2009, 05:07:03 PM
Talking to a very good sensible lifelong Gael who said If yer man Bastick lasts the entire match on Stevie O Neill without incurring a yellow card, he is prepared to run bucko naked around the field during the fireworks display
Hard to argue, any time I've seen Bastick his temper has let him down.
Must be the Laois man coming out in him :D
Quote from: heffo on January 28, 2009, 06:21:18 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 28, 2009, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2009, 05:41:18 PM
I think that's harsh on Bastic. He is tough and a clumsy tackler, so he is a yellow card machine. But he's never delivered a really dirty blow for the Dubs that resulted in a straight red.
O'Byrne Cup match last year (against Carlow I think) was a straight red and deservedly so if I recall correctly...
It was against Carlow alright down there, but if memory serves me correct he reacted to a dirty stroke moreso than he being the agressor (which I think was Hound's point)
Might be some truth in that but he deserved to walk and if he can't keep himself in check in the O'Byrne Cup in January...........
Quote from: AFS on January 28, 2009, 05:16:32 PM
I don't know why the Dubs supporters here are being so pessimistic. Maybe a lot of the comments are tongue in cheek, but there seems to be the definite feeling that the result of this game is a foregone conclusion. I think Tyrone will win, but by no more than 3 or 4 in a fairly high scoring game.
Are many Tyronies expecting many changes in defence from your McKenna Cup team? Perhaps it went a bit unnoticed by some but Tyrone have been very loose in defence in their first few matches this year with 0-16, 2-11 and 0-17 conceded. Maybe Dublin can get a bit more joy than they expect.
can't see it being high scoring. we haven't picked a team for that purpose. I've a fair idea how they will line out tactically and I'd be amazed if its high scoring
Just booked an auld ticket there on the internet yoke for Saturday night, 'tis always nice to see some of the smaller counties in action and as our main rivals in Div 1 'twill be nice to have a look at both teams, Dont know who I would rather see win, but yerra as a neutral I will enjoy it and you can never turn down a trip to Croker.
Anyone who wants to buy me a pint is welcome......
Quote from: Kerry Mike on January 28, 2009, 07:54:22 PM
Just booked an auld ticket there on the internet yoke for Saturday night, 'tis always nice to see some of the smaller counties in action and as our main rivals in Div 1 'twill be nice to have a look at both teams, Dont know who I would rather see win, but yerra as a neutral I will enjoy it and you can never turn won a trip to Croker.
Anyone who wants to buy me a pint is welcome......
If I see ya I'll buy ye a pint of water as long as you buy me a pint of lager in exchange. What with this funny money euro's I just can't afford a proper drink meself! ;)
I saw them putting up the Tyrone & Dublin flags outside The Big Tree earlier.
QuoteI saw them putting up the Tyrone & Dublin flags outside The Big Tree earlier.
The Kerry one flying there since Sept had become a bit tattered, a bit like our dreams last September, but only 8 months to the All Ireland again....
Yeah I saw a few coming down the Malahide Road this morning & into Fairview.
There's a big Trad Festival in temple bar this week which closes up on Sat so I'd say town will we busy
templebartrad.com/ (http://templebartrad.com/)
QuoteThere's a big Trad Festival in temple bar this week which closes up on Sat so I'd say town will we busy
Who are you telling... Went in for a look yesterday evening. Great music for getting the craic going! Not well at all today though :(
Quote from: INDIANA on January 28, 2009, 06:35:03 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 28, 2009, 05:16:32 PM
I don't know why the Dubs supporters here are being so pessimistic. Maybe a lot of the comments are tongue in cheek, but there seems to be the definite feeling that the result of this game is a foregone conclusion. I think Tyrone will win, but by no more than 3 or 4 in a fairly high scoring game.
Are many Tyronies expecting many changes in defence from your McKenna Cup team? Perhaps it went a bit unnoticed by some but Tyrone have been very loose in defence in their first few matches this year with 0-16, 2-11 and 0-17 conceded. Maybe Dublin can get a bit more joy than they expect.
can't see it being high scoring. we haven't picked a team for that purpose. I've a fair idea how they will line out tactically and I'd be amazed if its high scoring
you mean dropping 2 of the wing forwards deep? Maybe bring Conal out the field and leave Brogan and Jayo inside?
Going to be in Galway for the game, where is best pub for bit of craic to watch the game? The Quays?
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 29, 2009, 11:50:24 AM
Yeah I saw a few coming down the Malahide Road this morning & into Fairview.
There's a big Trad Festival in temple bar this week which closes up on Sat so I'd say town will we busy
templebartrad.com/ (http://templebartrad.com/)
Cover up the aul jersies if you're wearing them - drunken English stag parties are feted like Lords in these places - GAA fans in jersies tend not to be..
Quote from: heffo on January 29, 2009, 12:38:29 PM
Cover up the aul jersies if you're wearing them - drunken English stag parties are feted like Lords in these places - GAA fans in jersies tend not to be..
Typical but saddly true.. :-\
By the way this is now 43 pages about a league game that has not even happened yet :D :D
Yer right ECU
Come on lads lets try to make the 50 before Sat night.
I hear Stevie O'Neill has retired again!!!!
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 29, 2009, 03:54:59 PM
I hear Stevie O'Neill has retired again!!!!
Not before time either! ;D
Quote from: EC Unique on January 29, 2009, 02:34:53 PM
Quote from: heffo on January 29, 2009, 12:38:29 PM
Cover up the aul jersies if you're wearing them - drunken English stag parties are feted like Lords in these places - GAA fans in jersies tend not to be..
Typical but saddly true.. :-\
By the way this is now 43 pages about a league game that has not even happened yet :D :D
Like my first ride, been talking about it for years. Hope I'm not to dissapointed :-[ :-[ :-[
Quote from: Zapatista on January 29, 2009, 04:11:06 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 29, 2009, 02:34:53 PM
Quote from: heffo on January 29, 2009, 12:38:29 PM
Cover up the aul jersies if you're wearing them - drunken English stag parties are feted like Lords in these places - GAA fans in jersies tend not to be..
Typical but saddly true.. :-\
By the way this is now 43 pages about a league game that has not even happened yet :D :D
Like my first ride, been talking about it for years. Hope I'm not to dissapointed :-[ :-[ :-[
Or at least that you're not as disappointed as she was. ;)
Cousin won the tickets from the Irish News so I have one for this now...
But I am workign and need to get cover before I can go and no f**ker wants to do it
:-\
Tyrone Team Named http://www.tyronegaa.ie/county/football/news/story.jsp?newsid=753 (http://www.tyronegaa.ie/county/football/news/story.jsp?newsid=753)29 Jan 2009
Comórtas: Sraith Náisiúnta Peil
Cluiche: Tír Eoghain v Ath Cliath
Ionad: Páirc an Chrócaigh
Dáta: 31-01-09
Liosta
1 John Devine Aireagal Chiaráin
2 Martin Swift Coill an Chlochair
3 Justin McMahon An Omaigh
4 Michael McGee Loch Mhic Ruairí
5 Davy Harte Aireagal Chiaráin
6 Ryan McMenamin An Droim Mhór
7 Philip Jordan An Mhaigh
8 Enda McGinley Aireagal Chiaráin
9 Aidan Cassidy Eochar
10 Tommy McGuigan Ard Bó
11 Colm McCullagh An Droim Mhór
12 Joe McMahon An Omaigh
13 Stephen O'Neill Clann na nGael
14 Sean Cavanagh An Mhaigh
15 Owen Mulligan An Chorra Chriochach
16 Jonathan Curran Oilean a'Ghuail
17 Colm Cavanagh An Mhaigh
18 Gareth Devlin An Chraobh
19 Peter Donnelly Oilean a'Ghuail
20 Niall Gormley Trí Leac
21 Colin Holmes Na Clairsigh
22 Kevin Hughes Cill Íseal
23 Jason McAnulla An Omaigh
24 Cathal McCarron An Droim Mhór
25 Ryan Mellon An Mhaigh
26 Raymond Mulgrew An Chorra Chriochach
27 Sean O'Neill An Droim Mhór
28 Shaun O'Neill An Droim Mhór
29 Martin Penrose Achadh Uí Aráin
30 P J Quinn Baile na Móna
I could be wrong, but I think you're only allowed to tog out 24.
But regardless, Holy Moses, What a Full Forward line!!
Quote from: tyrone86 on January 29, 2009, 08:18:37 PM
I could be wrong, but I think you're only allowed to tog out 24.
But regardless, Holy Moses, What a Full Forward line!!
Dublin are only allowed name 24 anyhoo!
I thought McGinley was defo out no?
Strong looking team. Really looking forward to seeing the forward line in action. Its going to be a tough start for Dublin's new full back line. I'd say McGee will pick up Sherlock, he's too small for the corner forwards.
McMenamin on Henry should be a great battle.....
If the Dublin full back do well on Saturday it will be a massive boost for us and I will be happy with that...
What a line out for the opening of the 125th anniversary. No Dooher, Gormley, Gourley or Brian McGuigan and stil a formiddable first 15 and great talent on the bench. R. Mulgrew, R. Mellon, C Cavanagh, C Holmes, snowy and K Hughes would start on most county teams and stil Tyrone have better players on before them. Love the way Mickey Harte picks footballers week in week out. Pity Ross Carr wouldnt do likewise in my own county. Sick looking at him playing donkeys and better players sitting at home. That Tyrone squad would make ya jelous.
its funny how this time last year we were complaining about not having a forward line and no real strength in depth.
really looking forward to seeing that full forward line in action. read earlier in the week that mickey was on about mugsy being his his best shape for early on in the season, could be a prolific ff line as all can win their own ball take points of both feet, not as much mugsy, and bag a goal here and there. halfforwards and midfield shouldprovide plenty of ammo and the defense looks strong. heres hoping that we've a quiet season on the injury front and with he lads due to come there will be huge competition just to stay on the panel!! roll on saturday nite!!
Serious looking line-up.
Are we a bit small at the back maybe? Apart from Justy the rest are under 6ft, (maybe apart from Swift, not sure there)
Forwards look the business though, and in their case only Collie is under 6ft. Hope Tommy and JoeMcM have the workrate for the WHF positions.
Mickey the Maestro has pulled one out of the bag there no doubt, now I understand the Dubs' pessimism (or was it reverse-reverse-reverse-reverse-reverse-reverse-reverse psychology)! ;)
Still, the Dublin lads will be up for it big-time, and what better way to make an impression on new management than to turn the AI Champs over on the occasion of the 125th anniversary of the organisation on the hallowed turf of Croke. Bring it on!
Tell us this.
Can usons in the North watch the game on Setanta??
Glad I'm not going after reading that lineup ;D. Could be similar to last august unless tyrone all have beer bellies.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 29, 2009, 10:34:04 PM
Glad I'm not going after reading that lineup ;D. Could be similar to last august unless tyrone all have beer bellies.
Thwy all have beer bellies Indiana, so get yerself along.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 29, 2009, 10:34:04 PM
Glad I'm not going after reading that lineup ;D. Could be similar to last august unless tyrone all have beer bellies.
Your not kidding anyone! The only way to prove that you didnt go is to post during the match or at half time.
Quote from: clarshack on January 29, 2009, 09:34:57 PM
its funny how this time last year we were complaining about not having a forward line and no real strength in depth.
Yes very good point. Highlights how quickly sentiment can change. The arrival of Tommy and Justin on the scene together with the emergence/establishment of McCullagh as a player of genuine intercounty quality has greatly improved the options available. Wouldnt be getting carried away just yet, the early signs are promising but a successful year will again depend on the form and availability of the established core - Ricey, Gormley, Jordan, McGinley, Dooher, Cavanagh, and Brian McGuigan - losing even 2 of those would be difficult to overcome.
Interesting to see Cassidy retain his place after a good McKenna cup, its not easy to break into Harte's teams and hopefully he performs well again on saturday night and goes on to provide another genuine option to Tyrone at this level.
Quote from: loughshore lad on January 29, 2009, 10:57:16 PM
Interesting to see Cassidy retain his place after a good McKenna cup, its not easy to break into Harte's teams and hopefully he performs well again on saturday night and goes on to provide another genuine option to Tyrone at this level.
Indeed, he must really have impressed in the training sessions, in addition to the Mc Kenna Cup runs out.
Showtime on Saturday:
6.30pm - Entertainment begins with Hector Ó hEochagáin.
7.30pm - NFL tie between Tyrone and Dublin.
8.10pm - Half-time show will feature Sharon Shannon & Mundy.
9pm - "Iconic moments" followed by lighting & firework show.
I fancy dublin's half back line and midfield to go well. I think we've a huge advantage at midfield if we turn up. tyrone's half forward line will have their hands full but our full back line? talk about a baptism of fire. thats an incredible ff line of tyrone and if it gets enough ball, tyrone will win easily.
Would be hugely concerned about the match up between the Tyrone FF line and our FB line and can only see one winner tomorrow night. Looking forward to seeing if we have any discernible pattern of play being worked on and how Henry goes in the half forward line but more importantly that we keep playing throughout when we find ourselves behind and not throw in the towel like last year.
Quote from: INDIANA on January 29, 2009, 11:17:50 PM
I fancy dublin's half back line and midfield to go well. I think we've a huge advantage at midfield if we turn up. tyrone's half forward line will have their hands full but our full back line? talk about a baptism of fire. thats an incredible ff line of tyrone and if it gets enough ball, tyrone will win easily.
Dublin to win handy. ;)
Tyrone definately have a strong panel at the minute. Thats a very decent team out tomorrow night and you pick another decent 15 from the panel:
McConnell
PJ Quinn
McCarron
Gourley
Mellon
Gormley
Carlin
Holmes
Hughes
Mulgrew
B McGuigan
Dooher
Penrose
C Cavanagh
Snowy/G Devlin
The thing that worries me is that its only January and already Tyrone are being hyped up. We saw last year how this time of year counts for little when the big prize is handed out latter in the year. You only have to read back to the Tyrone msg board early last year to see how much the team were being written off.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 30, 2009, 09:03:30 AM
The thing that worries me is that its only January and already Tyrone are being hyped up. We saw last year how this time of year counts for little when the big prize is handed out latter in the year. You only have to read back to the Tyrone msg board early last year to see how much the team were being written off.
I hear you, but Kerry have been having to deal with that for years. If we are to be considered a truely great team we have to be able to be early season favourites and still win the big prize.
Great to see the occasion getting the players it deserves. The Dubs will have the memory of last August fresh enough and will need no motivation. The new management gives the game an unpredictable element.
If we beat the Dubs again, do we own them?
Is it on RTE?
If so it it blocked on Sky?
Quote from: under the bar on January 30, 2009, 09:14:32 AM
Is it on RTE?
If so it it blocked on Sky?
It's on Setanta Ireland, not on RTE or TG4.
Its a disgrace that its not available for the average fan to watch!
Quote from: ONeill on January 30, 2009, 09:11:01 AM
If we beat the Dubs again, do we own them?
Nah, it's just another down payment on 1984 and '95!
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 30, 2009, 11:08:08 AM
Its a disgrace that its not available for the average fan to watch!
There's been tickets available from €5-€20 for the past 2 months for the average fan who wants to see it. Setanta were prepared to pay to show games for a number of seasons while rte were not. Would be very unfair on Setanta to break the agreement when a big game comes along.
Although as I said earlier they should have tried to arrange for RTE to show highlights later that night if it didnt interupt there coverage of the premiership or heineken cup.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 30, 2009, 11:31:16 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 30, 2009, 11:08:08 AM
Its a disgrace that its not available for the average fan to watch!
There's been tickets available from €5-€20 for the past 2 months for the average fan who wants to see it. Setanta were prepared to pay to show games for a number of seasons while rte were not. Would be very unfair on Setanta to break the agreement when a big game comes along.
In facts clubs could order Juvenile tickets for €3 each and one free adult ticket for every ten Juv tickets ordered..
Got work sorted, heading to this now myself
Tyrone by four points...
Saw that Snowy fella limping up the Malone Rd yesterday with bandaged hand. Looks like someone's knocked him about a bit. :o
Certainly quite a strong team Mickey has put out and I'd say the strongest ever for the 1st round of the league for Tyrone
Its nicely set up for an ambush though with Dublin haven't nothing to lose having a new manager, no competitive games played, not much training, loads of injuries and new faces.
I must say I'm looking forward to it all but am wondering what the hell is Hector gonna be doing for an hour? Let yerself Goooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Big opportunity for Mugsy to prove his worth as often this time of year he plays half a game, gets injured and we don't see him til June again.
I get the feeling this year competition for places will be right from the start and maybe come summer we wont be needing Dooher to be running his a$$ off again.
Maybe I'm being unfair to him but Magee always makes me nervous. He is tenacious enuf but doesn't always seem the think before he leaps.
As a matter of interest, how do most Dubs perceive Tyrone now. Do you hate them or not mind them or just prefer them to Kerry?
We've definately a lot more options than this time last year:
Tyrone Team v Kildare
30 Jan 2008
1. John Devine
2. PJ Quinn
3. Conor Gormley
4. Martin Swift
5. Davy Harte
6. Dermot Carlin
7. Philip Jordan
8. Kevin Hughes
9. Enda McGinley
10. Colm Cavanagh
11. Raymond Mulgrew
12. Ryan Mellon
13. Colm McCullagh
14. Tommy McGuigan
15. Shaun O'Neill
16. Pascal McConnell
17. Niall Gormley
18. Colin Holmes
19. Cathal McCarron
20. Damien McCaul
21. Owen Mulligan
Based on the line ups, I see a very one sided game with Tyrone running out winners by anything between 8 to 15 points.
But sure we live in hope.
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 30, 2009, 01:40:17 PM
As a matter of interest, how do most Dubs perceive Tyrone now. Do you hate them or not mind them or just prefer them to Kerry?
I don't think too many Dubs hate Tyrone - they wouldn't like playing against them due to non-footballing reasons and the levels they'll go to to gain an advantage - they'd admire their footballing ability though.
Rivalry with Kerry is long gone - they hammered us at a canter in '04 and whilst the game in '07 was very close and could've gone either way they just haven't played each other enough in recent years.
The biggest rivalry for the current team is Tyrone without a doubt.
Quote from: heffo on January 30, 2009, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 30, 2009, 01:40:17 PM
As a matter of interest, how do most Dubs perceive Tyrone now. Do you hate them or not mind them or just prefer them to Kerry?
I don't think too many Dubs hate Tyrone - they wouldn't like playing against them due to non-footballing reasons and the levels they'll go to to gain an advantage - they'd admire their footballing ability though.
Rivalry with Kerry is long gone - they hammered us at a canter in '04 and whilst the game in '07 was very close and could've gone either way they just haven't played each other enough in recent years.
The biggest rivalry for the current team is Tyrone without a doubt.
due to non-footballing reasons and the levels they'll go to to gain an advantage ::) ::) ::)
Phone samaratins, they have professional trained operators that can help you.
Is the boycott still on for this one? I see its almost sold out.
Quote from: Bensars on January 30, 2009, 02:46:47 PM
Quote from: heffo on January 30, 2009, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 30, 2009, 01:40:17 PM
As a matter of interest, how do most Dubs perceive Tyrone now. Do you hate them or not mind them or just prefer them to Kerry?
I don't think too many Dubs hate Tyrone - they wouldn't like playing against them due to non-footballing reasons and the levels they'll go to to gain an advantage - they'd admire their footballing ability though.
Rivalry with Kerry is long gone - they hammered us at a canter in '04 and whilst the game in '07 was very close and could've gone either way they just haven't played each other enough in recent years.
The biggest rivalry for the current team is Tyrone without a doubt.
due to non-footballing reasons and the levels they'll go to to gain an advantage ::) ::) ::)
Phone samaratins, they have professional trained operators that can help you.
Ah it's ok Bensars - I'm a big boy - I've been to Healy park and back on a number of occasions - I'm well used to it now - it's more the childer I'm worried about
Ladbrokes have us as favourites for the Division 1 title, ahead of Kerry, is that a first?
Divison 1 Outright Winner
Tyrone 2/1 Galway 8/1
Kerry 5/2 Derry 8/1
Dublin 7/1 Westmeath 14/1
Mayo 7/1 Donegal 16/1
Dvision 2 Outright Winner
Cork 11/4 Wexford 13/2
Armagh 4/1 Kildare 12/1
Meath 4/1 Laois 12/1
Monaghan 9/2 Fermanagh 16/1
Divison 3 Outright Winner
Down 9/4
Cavan 5/1
Offaly 5/1
Limerick 5/1
Louth 6/1
Roscommon 7/1
Longford 9/1
Tipperary 33/1
Donegal 16/1 :o
Short odds judging by the mckenna cup
Do you want to expand on Non footballing reasons?
What's the odds Mugsy will get a goal on Saturday night?
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 30, 2009, 03:37:26 PM
Do you want to expand on Non footballing reasons?
What's the odds Mugsy will get a goal on Saturday night?
You nordies take the aul bait too easy
Any truth in the rumour that PP is paying out already on the following:
1) Mugsy to get a goal
2) Rain
3) Bastic to get the line
4) Whelo to get the line
5) Paddy Russell to get hit by a firework
6) Hector to get pulled in to the hill and lynched as he runs past with the mike.
Seriously though I expect a bit of a new beginning form the Dubs, I have a feeling that we are in for a humdinger. Good luck to the Dubs, great fans, deadly buzz and always fit to take their bating without a national whingew campaign. Ziggy are ye for Jurys Croke again - ye owe me a pint!!!
I'm just trying to stir up more trouble so we can make 50 pages before the game.
What the hell is Hector gonna be talking about for a full hour.
Will the start at 7.30 no matter what? The Utd v Everton match is on from 5.30 so that might hold some back.
I think Mugsy will enjoy playing in that FF line
Quote from: rrhf on January 30, 2009, 03:49:28 PM
... Ziggy are ye for Jurys Croke again - ye owe me a pint!!!
Jees Zigster I'm going to Jurys too... what do you look like? would be nice to meet you, you've always been a hero of mine before I tool the plunge into this board!! ;)
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 30, 2009, 03:57:45 PM
Quote from: rrhf on January 30, 2009, 03:49:28 PM
... Ziggy are ye for Jurys Croke again - ye owe me a pint!!!
Jees Zigster I'm going to Jurys too... what do you look like? would be nice to meet you, you've always been a hero of mine before I tool the plunge into this board!! ;)
Why don't the two of you wear pick carnations and then the three of us can have a pint?
If the Zig is up for it -no bother
I was in Croke Park today and they are already experimenting with lighting and effects etc - got some video of what's been happening - hopefully I'll get it up on Youtube later.
Have to say it looks like we are in for some treat!!! And the event is self-financing too!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 30, 2009, 03:56:57 PM
What the hell is Hector gonna be talking about for a full hour.
Memorable Tyrone victories over his county?
Maybe not.
Will be watching it on the Telly in the pub. So we're going to be 'treated' to Galway Girl at halftimehope there will be some analysis. swap Mundy with Steve Earle and it might worth a look. By the way who does the commentry for Setanta since they wont be relying on RTÉ,
Hector in the Brian Carthy role?
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 30, 2009, 01:40:17 PM
As a matter of interest, how do most Dubs perceive Tyrone now. Do you hate them or not mind them or just prefer them to Kerry?
Difficult question to answer without starting a tit for tat thing, so I'll start with saying I already know the gripes ye have with the Dubs and their fans, no need to point them out in retaliation.
I'm just answering the question as honestly as I can.
In my opinion, most Tyrone fans are great craic, and I respect most of the players.
Ye overhype every little incident sometimes, but thats no harm.
The main problem I would have with some tyrone fans is that they tend to gloat too much in victory, bad winners if you will.
That said, its not the majority, but quite a few I've come accross all the same.
I've seem some of the players adopt this trend recently too.
And no I'm not getting into specifics, thats just my general observations.
I certainly dont hate Tyrone, not at all.
Heres to a great night tomorrow to all here attending!
Can't believe the Brush isn't involved in the entertainment.
He'd really get the crowd jumping.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 30, 2009, 05:19:09 PM
Can't believe the Brush isn't involved in the entertainment.
He'd really get the crowd jumping.
Yeah, he'd get me jumping off the top deck of the Hogan to end the misery
Whadya say to a Meath man in Croke Park
Hoya hecta!!
The best atmosphere I've ever sambled anywhere was Half way though the 2nd half of the replay in 2005 when The Dubs were coming back strong with Whelo cleaning up in MF and ye scored about 6 in a row.
The noise was unreal.
Heard a rumour that BBC or UTV will be showing the game live tomorrow night. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 30, 2009, 07:53:00 PM
The best atmosphere I've ever sambled anywhere was Half way though the 2nd half of the replay in 2005 when The Dubs were coming back strong with Whelo cleaning up in MF and ye scored about 6 in a row.
The noise was unreal.
Remember it well. It was striking too the way that the noise just dropped off as Mugsy got the goal and took the wind right out of the Dubs sails. Class too the way he then walked past the Hill staring down the Dublin support ;D
Mike Finnerty as Commentator and Ray Silke on analysis for the Setanta coverage
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 30, 2009, 08:58:29 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on January 30, 2009, 07:53:00 PM
The best atmosphere I've ever sambled anywhere was Half way though the 2nd half of the replay in 2005 when The Dubs were coming back strong with Whelo cleaning up in MF and ye scored about 6 in a row.
The noise was unreal.
Remember it well. It was striking too the way that the noise just dropped off as Mugsy got the goal and took the wind right out of the Dubs sails. Class too the way he then walked past the Hill staring down the Dublin support ;D
I agree it was unreal that atmosphere in that spell, I've rarely seen it replicated. Keaney kicked 4 in 6 minutes. Then the stunned silence as mugsy in slow motion finished for a goal. Game, set and match.
Quote from: his holiness nb on January 30, 2009, 05:18:15 PM
The main problem I would have with some tyrone fans is that they tend to gloat too much in victory, bad winners if you will.
That said, its not the majority, but quite a few I've come accross all the same.
I've seem some of the players adopt this trend recently too.
Hold on a second. I accept, as would every county, that there are followers who will gloat in victory. However, I'd like an example of these 'players' who do so.
Quote from: ONeill on January 30, 2009, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on January 30, 2009, 05:18:15 PM
The main problem I would have with some tyrone fans is that they tend to gloat too much in victory, bad winners if you will.
That said, its not the majority, but quite a few I've come accross all the same.
I've seem some of the players adopt this trend recently too.
Hold on a second. I accept, as would every county, that there are followers who will gloat in victory. However, I'd like an example of these 'players' who do so.
I don't necessarily agree with the OP but I believe there was a post recently with video evidence of a Tyrone player standing gloating over a rival who was lying on the ground after the final whistle
Quote from: heffo on January 30, 2009, 11:13:41 PM
I don't necessarily agree with the OP but I believe there was a post recently with video evidence of a Tyrone player standing gloating over a rival who was lying on the ground after the final whistle
Allegedly heffo, and totally inconclusive, video or not. Can we switch this to the very obvious gloating of some of the Dublin players over the last year or two, where it's much more clear cut?
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 30, 2009, 11:27:36 PM
Quote from: heffo on January 30, 2009, 11:13:41 PM
I don't necessarily agree with the OP but I believe there was a post recently with video evidence of a Tyrone player standing gloating over a rival who was lying on the ground after the final whistle
Allegedly heffo, and totally inconclusive, video or not. Can we switch this to the very obvious gloating of some of the Dublin players over the last year or two, where it's much more clear cut?
I don't believe there was any gloating from Dublin players last year - there was plenty from plenty of counties the year before - I'm not the one getting my knickers in a twist anyhoo trying to claim black is white..
I'll take that as a 'no' then, and probably not the best of form to include on-field 'incidents', unless you've brought your can opener. :P
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 30, 2009, 11:33:23 PM
I'll take that as a 'no' then, and probably not the best of form to include on-field 'incidents', unless you've brought your can opener. :P
Well we could sub-categorise it as on-camera and off-camera - some counties have better training from the backroom team on these matters.
Quote from: heffo on January 30, 2009, 11:37:46 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 30, 2009, 11:33:23 PM
I'll take that as a 'no' then, and probably not the best of form to include on-field 'incidents', unless you've brought your can opener. :P
Well we could sub-categorise it as on-camera and off-camera - some counties have better training from the backroom team on these matters.
Indeed, we'll match your lot one of these days.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 30, 2009, 11:40:51 PM
Quote from: heffo on January 30, 2009, 11:37:46 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 30, 2009, 11:33:23 PM
I'll take that as a 'no' then, and probably not the best of form to include on-field 'incidents', unless you've brought your can opener. :P
Well we could sub-categorise it as on-camera and off-camera - some counties have better training from the backroom team on these matters.
Indeed, we'll match your lot one of these days.
You're far too modest for your own good :)
Quote from: heffo on January 30, 2009, 11:53:08 PM
You're far too modest for your own good :)
I know, to a fault, and go easy on us tomorrow night will ya ;)
Just got a call from Dublin there. Apparently there's major ructions in the Tymone camp after Mícheál insited the boys go to Mass at the tomb of Matt Talbot. Last I heard Mickey was flagitating himself on Seán McDermott Street, while Ricey was beating Snowy round the head with a bottle of blue WKD, muttering "headbutt who ye cnut". Mugsy is reported to be spending the night in Store St. after an incident with an ashtray, a pot noodle and and a ban Garda :o
Tyrone 1-15
Dublin 2-12
Quote from: Donagh on January 31, 2009, 12:19:45 AM
Just got a call from Dublin there. Apparently there's major ructions in the Tymone camp after Mícheál insited the boys go to Mass at the tomb of Matt Talbot. Last I heard Mickey was flagitating himself on Seán McDermott Street, while Ricey was beating Snowy round the head with a bottle of blue WKD, muttering "headbutt who ye cnut". Mugsy is reported to be spending the night in Store St. after an incident with an ashtray, a pot noodle and and a ban Garda :o
Mugsy never fails to score in Dublin!!
THE Dublin County Board Communications Committee have produced a special commemorative match programme for tomorrow night's Dublin v Tyrone NFL Division 1 opener at Croke Park - a clash which will launch the GAA's 125th anniversary celebrations.
The 116-page colour production (front cover on right) includes interviews with both managers, Pat Gilroy and Mickey Harte, player profiles on Ciarán Whelan, Tomás Quinn and Seán Cavanagh. Dr Paul Rouse, a noted historian, has charted the journey the GAA has taken down the decades since its formation in 1884 which makes very interesting reading.
A wide range of personalities also commit their thoughts to the programme including An Taoiseach Brian Cowen, President Mary McAleese,Irish rugby stars Brian O'Driscoll and Malcolm O'Kelly former Dublin star Dessie Farrell, Tyrone's first All-Ireland winning captain Peter Canavan, actor Brendan Gleeson, Economic professor Finbarr Bradley, former Cork hurling manager John Allen, journalists Eugene McGee, Tom Humphries, Eamon Dunphy, Tom McGurk, Des Cahill, Cathal Mac Coille and Con Houlihan, among many others.
The programme costs €5 and is available inside the ground.
Must say I'm looking forward to heading in shortly. The more I think about it, we are privileged to be invited to open the celebrations along with the reigning champions - I'm sure every other county would love to be part of this occasion so I hope the lads realise this and perform - I'm sure they will give it a good blast anyway. Enjoy the game and Up the Dubs
Yep, I will be setting off shortly myself for what I hope will be a great occasion in the capital tonight. Hope the weather doesn't turn things into a damp squib....it is still pissing rain up here in the black north.
Having read through the last 10 or so pages in this thread, as well as the various newspaper match previews during the week, I can't help feel a little uncomfortable about how strongly tipped Tyrone are to win the game. Whatever about the strength of our full forward line, they will only be as good as the service they are getting from further outfield.
There is no doubt Mickey has opted to select his strongest side possible for this clash and, while I am cautiously optimistic, there is still that niggling doubt that the Dubs could really revel in the role of underdog tonight. Gilroy and co are going into the game in exactly the same position as Tyrone were before that never-to-be-forgotten All-Ireland Quarter Final last summer. It is never a bad thing to be written off!
What I will be most interested in this evening is seeing how Tyrone handle the tag of 'firm favourites' in their first serious match since last September's All-Ireland triumph and how our defence copes without the formidable presence of Conor Gormley, who has been Tyrone's talisman defender for several years now and IMO one of the greatest backs ever to have worn the Red Hand jersey.
just about to head.........
it seems like ..................4 months since i was in croker!
hears to a good night!
Is this not on anywhere for us Nordies?
Well off to the Neutral Venue now , should be good can't wait for Hector ;)
P.S I predict Dubs to lose by at least 4 .
Have you and tankie decided to go G?
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2009, 04:45:38 PM
Have you and tankie decided to go G?
i don't know about Tankie you'd have to ask him but I was never not going .
Does any1 no if theres anywhere you can watch the match apart from Setanta??
The pub, which is where I'm off to now.
Good Luck Tyrone!
anywere online?
There's a TVAnts and Sopcast link here (don't know if either is working):
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports)
Can't see anything on justin.tv yet....
At the minute it is being shown "free" on Channel 418, though I expect they will scramble it before throw in.
Quote from: rory on January 31, 2009, 07:01:16 PM
There's a TVAnts and Sopcast link here (don't know if either is working):
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports)
Can't see anything on justin.tv yet....
It's up on tvants now.
Like the old style jersies, maybe O`Neills will learn something and keep their designs plain and simple, they look so much better than some of todays shirts.
Those new "old" jersies look ridiculous.
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
Those new "old" jersies look ridiculous.
Look like pyjama tops. ;D
puck were you watching it?
On setanta broadband.
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
Those new "old" jersies look ridiculous.
i thought it was like a training top! dreadful!
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 31, 2009, 07:29:24 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
Those new "old" jersies look ridiculous.
Look like pyjama tops. ;D
Some lecture from Marty .This will be the first real test of these new rules ,looks like a good crowd.Tyrone have a strong looking line out Any of these new Dubs any good ?
Sure Colm McCullaghs hands didnt even come out the end of the pyjamas!
ahhhh......to easy ;)
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
Those new "old" jersies look ridiculous.
Posted on the wrong threadIt looks like the milky bar kids versus the michellin men.
could you post the link puck cant find it >:(
Typical Dubs - swigging from the beer cans on the hill !!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: new devil on January 31, 2009, 07:35:13 PM
could you post the link puck cant find it >:(
www.setanta.com - its a subscription new devil. 145$ for the year.
Ah jaysus. They're not even playing in the pyjamas.
Quote from: passedit on January 31, 2009, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: rory on January 31, 2009, 07:01:16 PM
There's a TVAnts and Sopcast link here (don't know if either is working):
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports)
Can't see anything on justin.tv yet....
It's up on tvants now.
how do you get tvants working?i've it downloaded but it says buffering???
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2009, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: new devil on January 31, 2009, 07:35:13 PM
could you post the link puck cant find it >:(
www.setanta.com - its a subscription new devil. 145$ for the year.
F**k :'( :'(
for all that tyrone full forward line is unreal!!! no better line in ireland!!
Sopcast wont work for me
Great fielding by Cassidy - very composed on the ball.
O'Neill has the ball over the bar before his man knew he even had it.
Tyrone 0-1 Dublin 0-0
excuse my ignorance lads, but were is cassidy from?? will he be there or there abouts for championship??
Trademark Conal Keaney.
All square at a point each
Quote from: bridgegael on January 31, 2009, 07:45:31 PM
excuse my ignorance lads, but were is cassidy from?? will he be there or there abouts for championship??
Augher I believe. On reported form he will definitely be an option.
http://setanta-video.eircom.net/eircom/channels/Live.aspx
Dublin V Tyrone live now!!!
Keaney free,
0-2 Dublin - 0-1 Tyrone
no joy for anywhere online?
Quote from: Stalin on January 31, 2009, 07:49:28 PM
no joy for anywhere online?
im searching like mad for it but still no luck
O'Neill from miles away fires it over.
Tyrone 0-3, Dublin 0-2
Quote from: laceer on January 31, 2009, 07:37:20 PM
Quote from: passedit on January 31, 2009, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: rory on January 31, 2009, 07:01:16 PM
There's a TVAnts and Sopcast link here (don't know if either is working):
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports)
Can't see anything on justin.tv yet....
It's up on tvants now.
how do you get tvants working?i've it downloaded but it says buffering???
Is it working for you now, mine was saying buffering for ages but it's perfect now.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2009, 07:54:04 PM
Quote from: laceer on January 31, 2009, 07:37:20 PM
Quote from: passedit on January 31, 2009, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: rory on January 31, 2009, 07:01:16 PM
There's a TVAnts and Sopcast link here (don't know if either is working):
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports)
Can't see anything on justin.tv yet....
It's up on tvants now.
how do you get tvants working?i've it downloaded but it says buffering???
Is it working for you now, mine was saying buffering for ages but it's perfect now.
did you download software first?
yeah, just put tvants into google and downloaded it.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2009, 07:55:20 PM
yeah, just put tvants into google and downloaded it.
sound........thats why it wasnt workin........downloading it now........will hopefully see the second half. thanls
O'Neill free
Tyrone 0-4, Dublin 0-2
EDIT - another O'Neill free
Tyrone 0-5, Dublin 0-2
Davy Harte fires a typical belter off the post.
Looks like the Dubs boycott went well.
Cavanagh looking in the wing mirrors before getting his free????
Need to see it again
Dublin do not look very sharp, Whealan looks very unfit. On top of that Tyrone appear to be better and smarter.
Quote from: Open yer eyes Man on January 31, 2009, 07:58:25 PM
Cavanagh looking in the wing mirrors before getting his free????
Need to see it again
Yeah, def, never a free, sure he ran in to the dub.
Tyrone are going to run away with this.
Its working for me now
Download this:
http://misc.tvants.com/download/TvantsSetup.exe
Then go here and click the TVants link:
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports
WTF were Dublin thinking with those jerseys? :o
Impressive stuff from Tyrone so far!
Cavanagh from 30 yards,
Tyrone 0-6, Dublin 0-2
McGuigan from 20
Tyrone 0-7, Dublin 0-2
Its on Setanta Broadband for anyone in the US.
Keaney lands a free,
Tyrone 0-7, Dublin 0-3
McCullagh thinks hes Peter Canavan :o
Tyrone 0-8, Dublin 0-3
Why didn't they let anyone into the Hill tonight
Ciaran Whelan pulls one back
Tyrone 0-8, Dublin 0-4
O Neill incredible.
Great to watch after having to watch four months of soccer.
O'Neill fires over his 5th scre, with his right foot
Tyrone 0-9, Dublin 0-4
Whelan the big shite :D :D :D
Quote from: joemamas on January 31, 2009, 08:06:09 PM
Great to watch after having to watch four months of soccer.
Was there a gun held to your head?
Wheelo ticked for diving!
This is just shooting practice for tyrone, where are the dub backs?
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2009, 08:08:49 PM
This is just shooting practice for tyrone, where are the dub backs?
They are boycotting along with Tankie and INDIANA
can someone give me a radio link or video link before i kick the f**k out of something
david henry for the dubs.
Tyrone 0-9, dublin 0-5
henrys a corner back, no?
O'Neill scores from 6 yards out, on the left wing with his left foot.
Cavanagh follows him up
Tyrone 11pts, Dublin 5pt
O'Neill just kicked one of the best points I've ever seen. Five yards from the end line, on the left side of the posts, he points with his left foot, one of the most acute angles possible, his display tonight is frightening but no one of substance is marking him
11-6, after 32 mins
I'm sitting here open-mouthed! That is some display of score-taking!
Stephen O Neill is playing out of his skin what a player
de dubs pull one back
Do this an fear
Quote from: Azzurri on January 31, 2009, 08:00:54 PM
Its working for me now
Download this:
http://misc.tvants.com/download/TvantsSetup.exe
Then go here and click the TVants link:
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports
Whealen is a laugh, did you see his response to the ref, great actor.
Tankie and Gnevin had the right idea.
way too open I'm afraid, the Dubs are handing it on a plate. Like an exhibition game. Whelan lucky not to get a yellow for that dive as well
Miraculously, there's only four points in it!
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2009, 08:13:45 PM
Do this an fear
Quote from: Azzurri on January 31, 2009, 08:00:54 PM
Its working for me now
Download this:
http://misc.tvants.com/download/TvantsSetup.exe
Then go here and click the TVants link:
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=29627&part=sports
Whealen is a laugh, did you see his response to the ref, great actor.
Tankie and Gnevin had the right idea.
got all that al;ready , not having it, too many connections, radio will do
Quote from: J70 on January 31, 2009, 08:14:58 PM
Miraculously, there's only four points in it!
thats exactly what i came on here to say. outplayed all half, i couldnt believe when i looked at the score on the HT whistle
they just replayed that o'neill score from behind the goals. holy crap!
Not a bad first half, but how are the Dubs only 4 behind? McCullaghs point was sublime.
This is it, justin tv, good picture.....
http://www.justin.tv/sportstime (http://www.justin.tv/sportstime)
Marty Duffy - my hero! First time ever warning and a free for diving. Can it be that they've finally decided to do something about diving and implement the rule? Great news if they have.
Won't get too many people calling Marty Duffy a hero! But good to see him pull Whelan for that crap.
I defy anyone to try that O'Neill effort on their own at the local ground with nobody marking them. Take 50 goes and you wouldn't do it
That's the one Rory, you're a fecking star
;D ;D
cheers rory.was pulling my hair out there!
I am not a big fan of the studio host with the Barbie hair. His demeanor reminds me of a teacher I had somewhere.
What about the Ulster Scpts ad - dannae houl back :D
This justin tv wont work for me. were do u go from the link Rory?
8 to 1 about the Dubs. Some price for a team only four points down at half-time.
BB - the game should start playing on that page in a wee box....
Might have a game here!
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 31, 2009, 08:32:34 PM
8 to 1 about the Dubs. Some price for a team only four points down at half-time.
f**k f**k and f**k again. 1-9 to 0-11 now to the Dubs
Goal for the dubs, fair play - well see what the boys are made of now.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2009, 08:38:42 PM
Might have a game here!
Some good scores .Brogan took his goal well
Mc Cullough - sweet
bbc occupied territories have a commentary online
Tiernan Diamond won't trouble the championship fifteen anyway. Afraid to shoot in the first hallf and drops an easy one short just now. Its level. Tyrone just spoiled a good goal chance
Cavanagh missed open goal
What a ball from O' Neill - Mulligan goal
Some pass by O'Neill to set up Mulligan for a goal. Great class by Mulligan in finishing it, then shows no class when he turns round, stares at the hill and spits on the ground with pure contempt. Not good enough
you know what, radio shits on tv
Mugsy stares at the hill again
I didnt see him spitting on the ground - what feed you watching sniper?
The hill stare back
Watching TV. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but imo the spit was very deliberate. 1-14 to 1-10 now. Christ its some open game. How much because of the rules I wonder?
Great save by Devine, Paul Flynn points, 1-14 to 1-11
any highlights later tonight?
Are they actually trying to give this away ???
Once again, Cavanagh completely and totally not at the races or the pace of the game.
Stick to the soccer Jayo, ;)
Quote from: Tyrones own on January 31, 2009, 08:58:36 PM
Are they actually trying to give this away ???
Doesnt look like Dublin can take it! How many chances do they want? They should be two points ahead now. ::)
Open yer eyes - you seem to have it in for cavanagh? Did he beat you for player of the year this year or something?
McMenamins energy is astounding.
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2009, 09:04:41 PM
Open yer eyes - you seem to have it in for cavanagh? Did he beat you for player of the year this year or something?
McMenamins energy is astounding.
Just expected alot more from him. The wee bro gets the yellow
Tyrone are lucky Dublin havent the balls for a tight game.
Great free by Keaney
All square.
dubs by one
At Last
big sean is immense all square
and again
and sean again!!!!!!
WHOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
He must have been reading gaaboard on the mobile open your eyes. Cavanagh gives Tyrone a one point lead
All over, Tyrone 1-18, Dublin 1-16, very entertaining game. Best team won but Dublin dropped six balls into John Devine's lap in the second half
THE RISING SON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Open yer eyes Man on January 31, 2009, 09:05:58 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2009, 09:04:41 PM
Open yer eyes - you seem to have it in for cavanagh? Did he beat you for player of the year this year or something?
McMenamins energy is astounding.
Just expected alot more from him. The wee bro gets the yellow
I think you might have got it at the end there. ;)
great stuff, even if it was on radio for me
Typical Mugsy - the only one to swap his jersey. He'll be wearing it in the Glenavon next week ;)
The fireworks better be good to match that.
although obviously we will only see a fraction of it, i hope thats the future of the next 125 years !
Brilliant game, As someone said ithe new rules helped, but i fear come c'ship time the pulling and dragging and third man tackle will return and we could see a spate of yellow cards.
on paper the tyrone full forward line was immense. on the pitch they scored 1-13, they were immense
Saw most of the second half on broadband.
Lively game but what about Tyrone at the end? 3 points in a minute to win it.
Good entertainment and a good night for the "new" rules.
All those Dublin kicks into the goalie's hands were criminal.
Whose yer man doin all the yellin!
Ha ha , this must be a record, banned for one post on the reservoirscrubs forum
dont question the mods racism!!
As much as its wonderful to watch at home, I can see people waiting in Croke Park for the fireworks.
Quote from: Open yer eyes Man on January 31, 2009, 09:23:47 PM
As much as its wonderful to watch at home, I can see people waiting in Croke Park for the fireworks.
most have stayed according to the radio
They have. Clannad blasting
stands were lit up blue white and red there, and who says the GAA dont facilitate Unionists ;D
Cann't wait for the Fireowrk display - This is all lights
What a show - unreal
Must admit that was a credit to the Gaa and Ireland - Both match, atmosphere and celebrations
If I may use a baseball analogy, tonight was a home run for the GAA.
Quote from: joemamas on January 31, 2009, 09:47:16 PM
If I may use a baseball analogy, tonight was a home run for the GAA.
Great game great show . Maybe some one in the Gaa could help liven up things in Donnybrook
Wow!
That's the Super bowl ruined for me.... Can that actually be topped :o
Great game and great celebrations. Disgrace that Rte as national broadcaster didn't have celebrations on at least. The hurt of getting in Setanta was lessened by the quality entertainment
A proud moment for Tyrone to be involved in that, and a proud moment for everone else too.
Great game, super show.... the GAA are the only show in town... a proud night for all gaels!!!! Are you watching FAI, IRFU? A great nights entertainment from start to finish.... well done all!
that was unreal, the whole night was awesome, GAA is different class, new rules are brillent. ;D
Quote from: Tyrones own on January 31, 2009, 09:52:37 PM
That's the Super bowl ruined for me.... Can that actually be topped :o
Maybe Grainne Seoige with a 'wardrobe malfunction' at half time. ;D
Did anyone see Mugsy do the w**ker jesture at the end while the Tyrone team were all together on the pitch?
Wonder who he was talking about
That was unreal...fair play to the GAA money well spent
They added on a fiver to price off the tickets..so didnt cost them much
Absolutely amazing.
The feeling I have right now is what it is like to be Irish, to be a member of such a great organisation, to watch a thrilling game.
I'm not from Tyrone but my eyes were glued to the TV tonight.
All involved.........take a bow ;D
That display of fireworks would make ya proud to be a Gael, some show. I wish I was there. Fair play to Jarlath Burns and Co for having the balls to go through with something so ambitious, with loads of people complaining about it.
The new rules are getting a real thumbs up by McGee and Earley. I'd hold fire on them for now. Credit Marty Duffy tonight though, he was superb (never thought I'd say that!)
LL - spotted Mulligan doing that gesture in the team circle at the end. As classy as his celebration in front of the hill.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 31, 2009, 10:08:08 PM
That display of fireworks would make ya proud to be a Gael, some show. I wish I was there. Fair play to Jarlath Burns and Co for having the balls to go through with something so ambitious, with loads of people complaining about it.
The new rules are getting a real thumbs up by McGee and Earley. I'd hold fire on them for now. Credit Marty Duffy tonight though, he was superb (never thought I'd say that!)
LL - spotted Mulligan doing that gesture in the team circle at the end. As classy as his celebration in front of the hill.
Hardly call staring at the hill a "celebration"
Quote from: Open yer eyes Man on January 31, 2009, 09:13:09 PM
Typical Mugsy - the only one to swap his jersey.
Surely not possible to be the only one to swap a jersey?
Quote from: new devil on January 31, 2009, 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 31, 2009, 10:08:08 PM
That display of fireworks would make ya proud to be a Gael, some show. I wish I was there. Fair play to Jarlath Burns and Co for having the balls to go through with something so ambitious, with loads of people complaining about it.
The new rules are getting a real thumbs up by McGee and Earley. I'd hold fire on them for now. Credit Marty Duffy tonight though, he was superb (never thought I'd say that!)
LL - spotted Mulligan doing that gesture in the team circle at the end. As classy as his celebration in front of the hill.
Hardly call staring at the hill a "celebration"
The thing is, he didn't apply the new rules. He refereed like he aways did because if he hadn't, we might have had two or three sendings yellow cards.
Was at the game lads, just back in the door now.
There's only one word to describe the whole evening.
Perfection.
Quote from: Open yer eyes Man on January 31, 2009, 10:18:12 PM
Quote from: new devil on January 31, 2009, 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 31, 2009, 10:08:08 PM
That display of fireworks would make ya proud to be a Gael, some show. I wish I was there. Fair play to Jarlath Burns and Co for having the balls to go through with something so ambitious, with loads of people complaining about it.
The new rules are getting a real thumbs up by McGee and Earley. I'd hold fire on them for now. Credit Marty Duffy tonight though, he was superb (never thought I'd say that!)
LL - spotted Mulligan doing that gesture in the team circle at the end. As classy as his celebration in front of the hill.
Hardly call staring at the hill a "celebration"
The thing is, he didn't apply the new rules. He refereed like he aways did because if he hadn't, we might have had two or three sendings yellow cards.
Agreed with regard to the yellows. McGee and Sean Cavanagh could have went. But the general decision making over what was a free and what wasn't was spot on I thought.
Quote from: new devil on January 31, 2009, 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 31, 2009, 10:08:08 PM
That display of fireworks would make ya proud to be a Gael, some show. I wish I was there. Fair play to Jarlath Burns and Co for having the balls to go through with something so ambitious, with loads of people complaining about it.
The new rules are getting a real thumbs up by McGee and Earley. I'd hold fire on them for now. Credit Marty Duffy tonight though, he was superb (never thought I'd say that!)
LL - spotted Mulligan doing that gesture in the team circle at the end. As classy as his celebration in front of the hill.
Hardly call staring at the hill a "celebration"
Celebration might be the wrong word, gesture so I guess. Still I hate that shit. Spat on the ground as well in the middle of starring at the Hill. No need
Its a habit he has while playing..a lot of players do
Why do you think he was trying to disrespect the hill by spitting on the ground??
I think i'm the second to ask this but what stream were you boy's watching where you saw him spit
cause I didn't see it either..not saying he didn't.. I just didn't see it.
Cracking game
Wee Marty did alright in the middle but as someone said he didnt really apply the rules, more common sense
BTW, great to see a player get booked for that diving sh1te, although how ironic was it that Jordan was standing over Whelan complaining about it :-\
I was watching it on setanta and he has his back to the camera so didnt see any spiting
Quote from: full back on January 31, 2009, 10:32:43 PM
Cracking game
Wee Marty did alright in the middle but as someone said he didnt really apply the rules, more common sense
BTW, great to see a player get booked for that diving sh1te, although how ironic was it that Jordan was standing over Whelan complaining about it :-\
FB are armagh ones still crying about that :P
I was watching it on Setanta on the TV. The way he spat whilst starring beligerantly at the hill looked like contempt to me. But best to park it, wrong thing to be talking about after such a great night for the GAA.
Quote from: full back on January 31, 2009, 10:32:43 PM
Cracking game
Wee Marty did alright in the middle but as someone said he didnt really apply the rules, more common sense
BTW, great to see a player get booked for that diving sh1te, although how ironic was it that Jordan was standing over Whelan complaining about it :-\
Dont forget cavanagh was complaining too, more irony!
It was Setanta I was watching also and I didn't see him spit ??? are you sure?
Ya. But, as I said, I don't wanna be making an issue of it. It didn't look good but not worth worrying about in the greater scheme of the night
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2009, 10:35:25 PM
Quote from: full back on January 31, 2009, 10:32:43 PM
Cracking game
Wee Marty did alright in the middle but as someone said he didnt really apply the rules, more common sense
BTW, great to see a player get booked for that diving sh1te, although how ironic was it that Jordan was standing over Whelan complaining about it :-\
Dont forget cavanagh was complaining too, more irony!
Coming from a man that supports a team that includes Martin O'Rourke.... How's that for Irony! :P
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on January 31, 2009, 10:38:27 PM
Ya. But, as I said, I don't wanna be making an issue of it. It didn't look good but not worth worrying about in the greater scheme of the night
Fair enough!
Quote from: new devil on January 31, 2009, 10:34:19 PM
Quote from: full back on January 31, 2009, 10:32:43 PM
Cracking game
Wee Marty did alright in the middle but as someone said he didnt really apply the rules, more common sense
BTW, great to see a player get booked for that diving sh1te, although how ironic was it that Jordan was standing over Whelan complaining about it :-\
FB are armagh ones still crying about that :P
:D
Fcuk off new devil, there is no chance of getting a rise out of you tonight after the 2 results anyway...
Great game all round for this time of year. Some excellent scores, blocks, catches, saves. All in all the ref done grand. He used a bit of common sense in most incidents, except maybe for McGee in the first half. With the new rules, I hope most refs adopt this approach to the game. No doubt Bannon, had he been in charge, would have 5 or 6 yellow carded
Quote from: the green man on January 31, 2009, 10:44:03 PM
Great game all round for this time of year. Some excellent scores, blocks, catches, saves. All in all the ref done grand. He used a bit of common sense in most incidents, except maybe for McGee in the first half. With the new rules, I hope most refs adopt this approach to the game. No doubt Bannon, had he been in charge, would have 5 or 6 yellow carded
I would have thought the same about Marty Duffy. I think refs will be glad that generally players will be less inclined to foul because of the threat of the yellow card and therefore they'll be more inclined to use common sense. Early days yet though. As Eugene McGee said afterwards it'll be a different matter when it comes to Tyrone v Armagh and Meath v Dublin in the first round of the championship
Are the new rules in for the championship too?
Up for discussion at congress in April and they'll be brought in for a three year trial if passed afaik
Lads this was simply a magnificent occasion and it is absolutely great as a GAA man to be able to give the GAA 10 out of 10 for tonight. Too often we have made a mess of this type of thing, the Late Late show being the most recent example, but tonight we saw both a game and an occasion that lived up to what celebrating this wonderful organization should be all about. Congratulations to all involved.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on January 31, 2009, 10:52:27 PM
Didn't get to see the first half and missed the Dubs' goal as the others wanted to check the lotto numbers! Didn't think that Sean Cavanagh's tackle late in the game warranted a booking, but Cavanagh jnr. can have no complaints about his. O'Neill's pass to Mulligan for the goal was very good, but you'd have to question the marking of the Dublin defence as in my mind Mulligan was in the prime location for a pass from where O'Neill was, at the far edge of the square. Seemed to me that any time Dublin could get their noses in front, Tyrone were able to up the performance a notch. Thought Cassidy in midfield had a decent game.
In fairness to the Dublin full back line they were hugely inexperienced.
I'd say they learned a lot from tonights game.
Another referee tonight might have ruined it tonight. We have too many referees who want to be the centre of attention, rather than facilitating the playing of the game and letting the players get on with it. Some love to be in the headlines, sending off 3 or 4 players.
One of the pleasing things for me tonight was not taking the man out once he has played the ball, and was going for the return. This is something which has crept into our games this last few years and if these new rules can stamp this out, then I think it would be a good thing.
Just in the door.
Great occasion.
A cracker of a game and the fireworks et al were smashing.
I even didn't mind Hector.
Top marks to all the boys and girls who organised it
Did anyone else half think that they were actually going to play the match wearing the old timey gear?
It would have been some sight!
Quote from: Zulu on January 31, 2009, 11:01:08 PM
Lads this was simply a magnificent occasion and it is absolutely great as a GAA man to be able to give the GAA 10 out of 10 for tonight. Too often we have made a mess of this type of thing, the Late Late show being the most recent example, but tonight we saw both a game and an occasion that lived up to what celebrating this wonderful organization should be all about. Congratulations to all involved.
Hear Hear.
And congrats to the Ref for reffing with common sense. These new rules can work if they are reffed in that way, although he did get a bit slack towards the end. The yellow of Colm Cavanagh sorted that out though. Also, well done on the Whelan incident.
All in all a great, enjoyable game and occasion
I thought tonight was a fantastic display of the GAA. Tyrone powered ahead in the second, giving way to great excitement in Tyrone as Kerry Mike will comfirm. I tried not to get sucked away in the hype. However I will say,I did say before the game in the pub - Mulligan a goal in the hill. Got a few drink off that ;)
Quote from: Zulu on January 31, 2009, 11:01:08 PM
Lads this was simply a magnificent occasion and it is absolutely great as a GAA man to be able to give the GAA 10 out of 10 for tonight. Too often we have made a mess of this type of thing, the Late Late show being the most recent example, but tonight we saw both a game and an occasion that lived up to what celebrating this wonderful organization should be all about. Congratulations to all involved.
Dunno how much blame can be placed on the GAA for that.
Bud Wiser is as proud as Punch and proud of both teams tonight, in fact, it didn't matter who lost. Dub's and Tyrone built a bond tonight even among themselves. Both teams made me proud to be a GAA man.
A Champers night - Time to Pop the Corks !
Excellent night, really enjoyed it. Fantastic atmosphere all through the game. Great exhibition of football.
Some random points:
- Stephen O Neill's point was one of the most amazing points I have ever seen. Delighted I saw it live.
- THe ref had an ok game, he made a few questionable calls but the call on Whelan's dive was brilliant, more referees need to pull players up on this.
- Was anyone watching Mundy at half time? He was blatanly caught miming, he started moving his mouth during Galway Girl and the singing didnt kick in till the next bar!
- Fireworks and lights were very good, everyone singing and cheering the fireworks. Fanatastic night's entertainment.
Quote from: Bud Wiser on January 31, 2009, 11:36:16 PM
Bud Wiser is as proud as Punch and proud of both teams tonight, in fact, it didn't matter who lost. Dub's and Tyrone built a bond tonight even among themselves. Both teams made me proud to be a GAA man.
A Champers night - Time to Pop the Corks !
I got to admit, as I said to others after the game, it was played in the right spirit. A few dodgy decisions on both sides, but nothing that could be complained about that swung the result of the game. Tyrone laid the marker down, that they are pushing for Sam this year and Dublin showed a discipline I haven't seen for a few years and were in touching distance of Tyrone. I expect big thing of Dublin come the summer months.
lads, is there anywhere online to see the highlights of the fireworks, or any pics? cheers
Quote from: Jinxy on January 31, 2009, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: Zulu on January 31, 2009, 11:01:08 PM
Lads this was simply a magnificent occasion and it is absolutely great as a GAA man to be able to give the GAA 10 out of 10 for tonight. Too often we have made a mess of this type of thing, the Late Late show being the most recent example, but tonight we saw both a game and an occasion that lived up to what celebrating this wonderful organization should be all about. Congratulations to all involved.
Dunno how much blame can be placed on the GAA for that.
Ahhh I know that but I think you know what I was trying to say, regardless this isn't a night to nit pick, as all the rest of the boys have said it was a great night and in many ways faultless.
Sorry
I meant earlier to comment on Stephen O'Neill. I was bowled over with his display. Superb. Had he been fully committed last year Tyrone would have won the All Ireland twice in 2008.
I hope someone will tell me he's fully fit cos if he's not then we may as well all go home and let Sam stay in 'Trone' for another year.
Fantastic game - great occasion - good display from both sides - magnificent scores and the fireworks etc were very well done.
By the way, Mugsy can't half sell a dummy ! Especially to the Boys in Blue !!
Dublin 1-16 1-18 Tyrone
Stephen O'Neill gets away from Dublin's Paddy Andrews
Tyrone scored three points in stoppage time to edge out Dublin in a thrilling Allianz NFL opener at Croke Park.
Six points from the superb Stephen O'Neill helped the Ulster side into a 0-11 to 0-7 lead at the break.
The Dubs stormed back in the second half and Bernard Brogan's goal put them in front, only for Owen Mulligan to net four minutes later for the visitors.
Brogan put Dublin ahead going into injury-time before Sean Cavanagh struck twice and O'Neill sealed the victory.
It was a fitting game to kick off the celebrations to mark the 125th anniversary of the GAA.
O'Neill starred in the opening 35 minutes as Tyrone hit five points without reply to take control.
Dublin scored the final two points of the half and maintained the momentum on the restart as they closed the gap to two points.
Brogan pounced on a 41st minute mistake by Justin McMahon before slotting the ball into the net and taking the Dubs in front after once being six points behind.
Tyrone were shocked into action and Colm McCullagh levelled before Mulligan's classy finish from a pinpoint O'Neill pass restored their lead.
But Dublin fought back again and the impressive Colm Keaney equalised after 68 minutes before Brogan fired over in the last minute of normal time.
Tyrone needed something special and up stepped player of the year Cavanagh with two outstanding and decisive points.
O'Neill sent over the insurance point, his eighth in the game, and the All-Ireland champions were soon celebrating a winning start to their league campaign.
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Tyrone: J Devine, M Swift, Justin McMahon, M McGee, D Harte, R McMenamin, P Jordan, E McGinley, A Cassidy, T McGuigan, C McCullagh, Joe McMahon, S O'Neill, S Cavanagh, O Mulligan.
Dublin: S Cluxton; P Andrews, D Bastick, A Hubbard; B Cullen, G Brennan, B Cahill; R McConnell, C Whelan; J Brogan, D Henry, T Diamond; C Kearney, J Sherlock, B Brogan.
Watched at home. Great night's entertainment. With a minute to go and one point down, I was trying to be positive about the night even though we were almost definitely going to be beaten by the Dubs. It wasn't working. That sinking feeling in the stomach, not felt for a while, was niggling at my appreciation for the celebration of the night. The end was like the end of the final last year all over. Brilliant. As for the martialling of the game, I do not feel that it was the rules themselves that influenced this game so much, but the manner and the demeanour of the ref. He exuded confidence right from the start, dismissing 'mouthy' dissenters and keeping up with the play. The desire of both teams to play football was a telling factor, as was the relaxed atmosphere that you wouldn't find in a do or die championship game. The yellow card rule will certainly have influenced the instructions of both managers and a lot of players probably withdrew from actions that they might previously have got away with. A bonus for the more skillful players. I would wonder, though, if the game would have been any less exciting had it been refereed in the same confidence as tonight but under the old rules. Who knows. Stephen O'Neill was as good as you'll see. Bernard Brogan brilliant. The Mugsy-Hill 16 thing is almost a guarantee. I wouldn't be pedantic when both sides get a bit of craic out of it. Dubs look handier this year. Thought they played better when Ryan was withdrawn. Thankfully, Tyrone look handier too!
By the way Mugsy did spit in the direction of the hill and as unfortunate as it was it will make for some atmosphere this summer if the two teams meet and he's playing.
Mulligan cant help it,he is what he is. . . . . . . . .
He's in some shape though.
That dog is freaking me out.
That's my picking up women face.
I'll make a bold prediction now, Mulligan won't make the best Tyrone team this year.
Have to laugh at the knit picking with mulligan, i recorded the game and ive watched the spitting several times, theres no way anybody who watched it on tv can say it was done out of disrespect. Imagine you've just scored a goal on a night like that, you first thought isn't, how can i disrespect the opposition as much as possible!
It looked like he was trying to be like cantona, dunno if hes that great.......yet
Although I did see him make the gesture to mulgrew at the end
From a neutral point of view that was a quality match. Dublin to be fair hung well at in at times when they looked like being swamped but Tyrone ........ some of the individual displays were a joy to behold. Their blitz at the end was similar to last September and they re clearly a team for the ages. One of the greats. The fact that they could produce that tonight, when they could be still enjoying last September, is amazing really. Especially against a team with new management with a point to prove. Dublin did well to stay in touch at times and their goal was a gift but they showed a good attitude right to the end.
If I was a Dub the condition of some of the players would be of concern. Some of the newer lads looked soft in condition and Shane Ryan looks to have gone from the fittest I ve seen him last Summer to a lad that s wintered too well.
Looks like Tyrone has raised the bar for everybody. Their trick will be to sustain it for 9 months.
Fitness won't be a problem for the Dubs come summertime.
Shane Ryan will still be motoring up and down the field with lads hanging off him.
I wouldn't be too hard on him at this stage of the season.
Just in the door from a great night out in Croker, my dream beforehand of a draw nearly came to pass, but when Tyrone needed him Cavanagh stood up and kicked 2 great winning points off either foot, he was quite by his standards but some player. The Retired One was excellent but the Dubs marking was terrible, McCullagh ran the show in the first half and Brennan was lucky not to be taken off.
Twas all tyrone in first half and they should have been home and dry by ht, but the dubs regrouped and their 2 veterns O's, Whelo and Jayo, led a second half revival that probably deserved a win. Poor kicking (deja vu from the Dubs) let them down in the end. Jayo gave McMahon his fill of it but lacked support at the critical moment.
Ross O'Connell is not a midfielder and will be lucky to get back, Ryano was a poor show of himself too but Ger Brennen redeemed himself with some fine 2nd half attacking play.
Ref did okay but let a few possible yellows go, thankfully the dreaded body checking was not in evidence and thats a good thing.
Good end to end football and once again Tyrone steal a game at the death... but they looked good at times and if they keep up the momentum will be hard stopped in holding onto Mr Maguire.
The iconic GAA moments after the game was excellent and brought a lump to the throat, proud as f**k at that moment.
The music, lights and fireworks was very good. I also thought the light imressions on the field of every county crest was well done. Just one thing I think thay could have incorporated a bit more from the clubs, maybe having a young lad or girl from every club in the country togged out in ther club colours on the pitch at the end would have been a nice inclusive touch.
Anyway 79k was a cracking turnout for the evening and the entertainment on and off the field was top classs for €20.
Proud to be a GAA man.
Great evening. Some good play for January without the aggro that sometimes characterised similar games. Tyrone looked like running away with it in the first half, but Dublin had a great start to the second half. Dublin several times dropped the ball into the goalie's hands when they should have got points. Stephen O'Neill's points were worth the admission alone but the show was good too.
Just back from the game - my report is on another website but just a couple of personal musings here.
What a performance from Stephen O'Neill - eight points - six from play - a true hero of the game - not one to seek the limelight in September 2008 but a player who quitely stepped into the limelight tonight and gave an awesome display.
If I was a Tyrone man I'd also be happy with Philip Jordan's contribution to name but one.
Whatever your opinion is on the new rules - I think they helped enormously today - great free-flowing encounter.
Just a word on the Dubs - flying fit for a team that didn't play any competitive football in January - as a Laoisman I'd already be worried about them in Leinster this year.
On the fireworks - every penny spent was certainly worth it - I reckon the Canal End upper was the best place to watch it. With fireworks coming off both the Cusack and Hogan stands it was easy to miss some of them. Anyone else here agree?
Was in upper Hogan an only saw some of the fireworks over my left shoulder, probably in Clonliffe college, but still was good to be there
I think they actually came from Belvedere as Clonliffe would have been too close!!! In the upper Hogan myself too - got some savage video of the whole thing from the Press Box - what did yis make of Hector?
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 31, 2009, 10:00:17 PM
Did anyone see Mugsy do the w**ker jesture at the end while the Tyrone team were all together on the pitch?
Wonder who he was talking about
Brush Shields ;D
Watched it in the pub, great game considering its January. Not sure if its the fitness or the new rules but the forwards seem to have more room. SOme of the scores were excellent. O'Neill from about 5 yards from the end line, couldnt believe it. Also Bernard Brogan had a great game and came up with some great scores. Everyone in the pub was glued to it and there was a young Dub lad who was jumping around the place when Dublin got their goal. I dont think I've seen people as excited over a league game in a long time. We saw 2 Ciaran Whelans last night. In the first half it was diving and whinging but in the 2nd have he played a storning game, made huge catches, and really was the orcheastator of Dublins come back. Sean Cavanagh of course had an excellent game too and got the vital scores to win. The difference in the teams is that Tyrone have more players on the field who can take their scores. Dublin had the chances to win the game but couldnt take them Tyrone did.
Great game and the fireworks and all that was very nice. HOWEVER, Meath didnt get a mention in the memorial video. What the f**k like. Not even the 4-in-a-row games!
Must echo most of the sentiments of posters so far.
A fantastic nights entertainment that was a great celebration of 125 years of the GAA.
Only the begrudgers would speak out against what was an entirlely appropriate and spectecular extravaganza. The fireworks , lights, music and histotical synopsis were all very enjoyable and a statement of how far we have come. I cannot remember us being in a position like this for the centenary celebrations when things were much more nuted
On the field of play I think we were also treated to another spectecular that I would love to see setting the tone for the season.
Great scores from O'Neill, Cavanagh and Keaney, some great high fielding from Whelan and a significant booking for Whelan.
Best £40 I have spent in ages.
( Was there a cash flow problem in Dublin last night. Had to go all the way form Fegans to O'Connell St to get an ATM that had any dinero)
Quote from: laoisgaa on February 01, 2009, 01:59:28 AM
Just back from the game - my report is on another website but just a couple of personal musings here.
What a performance from Stephen O'Neill - eight points - six from play - a true hero of the game - not one to seek the limelight in September 2008 but a player who quitely stepped into the limelight tonight and gave an awesome display.
If I was a Tyrone man I'd also be happy with Philip Jordan's contribution to name but one.
Whatever your opinion is on the new rules - I think they helped enormously today - great free-flowing encounter.
Just a word on the Dubs - flying fit for a team that didn't play any competitive football in January - as a Laoisman I'd already be worried about them in Leinster this year.
On the fireworks - every penny spent was certainly worth it - I reckon the Canal End upper was the best place to watch it. With fireworks coming off both the Cusack and Hogan stands it was easy to miss some of them. Anyone else here agree?
Enjoyed the game. We made a game of it in the second half but we had to after the abject first half. It was exhibtion stuff at times rather than real championship football. Tyrone really are an awesome outfit and are even better this year. O Neill is off the scale he's so good. Same old problems with dublin we don't have any tight marking corner backs and we struggle to produce half forwards as a result we aren't going to win Sam anytime soon.
The positives were the full forward line and Whelan (brain fade aside). Brennan had a good 2nd half and Bastic might make a full back. We've no patience when there is nothing on. Dublin far too often try to force the pass instead of recycling the ball like tyrone and as a result get hit on the break. I don't know why Shane Ryan was taken off, I thought he made an immeadiate impact.
But tyrone scored when they scratched themselves and I thought they were in 2nd gear for a lot of it. Tyrone have some of the best players of my generation and its a pleasure to watch them like last night.
Didn't get to the game last nite but watched it in the pub and what a game it was and the show after was out of this world. Would have loved to been there. I thought O'Neill was back to near his best I hope he will show what a class footballer he is and that he made the right choice to come back. Sentana's coverage was great with good commentary not too sure about the anchor and panel. Any foreign people looking in last night would have been blown away with the displays both on the pitch and off. Well done to the GAA it was money well spent and fingers up to the moaners about the money wasted. Has anyone a video of the game and fireworks that they could share
thought it was a cracking game played at championship pace. stephen o'neills point in the 1st half near the cusack stand was breathtaking . thought we had lost it at the end but what a finish. hopefully that never say die attitude will be evident throughout the year.
QuoteWas in upper Hogan an only saw some of the fireworks over my left shoulder, probably in Clonliffe college, but still was good to be there
You were probably looking over my shoulder too KM, Upper Hogan wasn't the best for the fireworks but you can't have everything.
QuoteEnjoyed the game. We made a game of it in the second half but we had to after the abject first half. It was exhibtion stuff at times rather than real championship football. Tyrone really are an awesome outfit and are even better this year. O Neill is off the scale he's so good. Same old problems with dublin we don't have any tight marking corner backs and we struggle to produce half forwards as a result we aren't going to win Sam anytime soon.
The positives were the full forward line and Whelan (brain fade aside). Brennan had a good 2nd half and Bastic might make a full back. We've no patience when there is nothing on. Dublin far too often try to force the pass instead of recycling the ball like tyrone and as a result get hit on the break. I don't know why Shane Ryan was taken off, I thought he made an immeadiate impact.
But tyrone scored when they scratched themselves and I thought they were in 2nd gear for a lot of it. Tyrone have some of the best players of my generation and its a pleasure to watch them like last night.
My thoughts exactly -Don't think we are within an asses roar of Tyrone in full flow - but a great night and congrats but was there really need to show Mulligans goal 3 times in the video tribute ;)
The IFA heard about the celebrations in Croke Park last night, so put on their own show at Windsor Park.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RwBOerUGPQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RwBOerUGPQ)
Quote from: ziggysego on February 01, 2009, 12:16:13 PM
The IFA heard about the celebrations in Croke Park last night, so put on their own show at Windsor Park.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RwBOerUGPQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RwBOerUGPQ)
At least the got a bigger crowd than normal out for them.
loved the game , atmosphere, craic, entertainment, fireworks and above all the match last night.
Proud to be a GAA man alright with it all.
though Tyrone were sublime in the first half, mccullough providing the mercurial SON and Cavanagh with assists.
Dubs didnt help themselves by playing players out of position. Andrews is being played as a defender (like his clubmate Lally in obynre cup) and way out of position. A few passengers on the Dubs side. Improve upon this and Dublin will have a team capable to challenging Kerry and Tyrone.
New tryrone midfielder cassidy is a great find. The Da reckons McMenamin was motm from watching on TV.
The young lads I brought to the game were thrilled with the occasion and game.
Converted to GAA. Mission accomplished!
McCullagh...
Agree whole heartedly lads and lassies. Was in the upper Davin myself and i would s it was the best position for the fireworks. As Lynch boy said proub to be a GAA man last night.
I got up this morning with eyes like that dog and now i have to go to training. Guess whose throwing up ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Declan on February 01, 2009, 11:48:57 AM
My thoughts exactly -Don't think we are within an asses roar of Tyrone in full flow - but a great night and congrats but was there really need to show Mulligans goal 3 times in the video tribute ;)
That made me laugh alright, don't think the Hill appreciated it. ;D
Fantastic game and occasion last night, for €20 it was exceptional value for money.
After Tyrone threatening to run away with things in the first half the dubs really upped the anti in the second. They loked in pretty good shape in the second half. Bernard Brogan, Whelan and their centre back to the fore.
From a Tyrone perspective the highlights were Swift, Cassidy, Mugsy and obviously O'Neill. Swift was very assured I thought while Cassidy opened brightly before he ran out of steam. Mugsy showed consistently even when much of the ball was going to O'Neill who was sublime.
Devine's kicking would be a concern. Jayo gave Justin McMahon the most uncomfortable outing he has had in a county jersey. McGee was lucky to last as long as he did.
Sounds like it was a great night to be had by all. I wish I could have been there!
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2009, 08:13:45 PM
Do this an fear
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Then go here and click the TVants link:
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Whealen is a laugh, did you see his response to the ref, great actor.
Tankie and Gnevin had the right idea.
Do you even read what is posted here or make it up as you go along?
What do you mean?
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 01, 2009, 02:26:50 PM
What do you mean?
I've already point out to you that I never said I boycotting the game. Just like i never said I didn't care about North in that other thread
From the Lower Cusack, just on the half-way line, the best I could do with my little compact...
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Class pics FOSB
Quote from: Open yer eyes Man on January 31, 2009, 09:02:30 PM
Once again, Cavanagh completely and totally not at the races or the pace of the game.
good one 'open yer eyes',right on cue cavanagh scores 2 crackers to win it
I think everyone has summed up last night's spectacle perfectly. I'd just like to talk about some weaknesses from our performance last night. Devine's handling I thought was excellent. His kickouts on the other hand shocking. Justy as a previous poster mentioned had a tough night. I think he really suits marking a big target man instead of a runner. I remember a Down speedster giving him trouble at the marshes last July. In saying that if block was playing I think he would have been given more protection as Ricey is much more adventurous. Davy I thought was poor and Enda couldn't get into it at all. Cassidy rose like a salmon to fetch 2 wonder balls, yet I thought some of his hand passing led to possession being lost. This will improve with confidence and games though. Joe Mc Mahon put in a great shift and Swift, Ricey, Jordan were excellent as well. McGee had a big job to do and I thought he done ok. Cavanagh done the business when required after making a couple of mental fumbles and O'Neill was leaving us staring at each other in disbelief throughout the game. Would love to watch the full 72 minutes again on the box. Hope Setanta will show it again during the week. Looking forward to playing Kerry now. I just hope the pitch isn't like a bog.
7.30pm tonight Setanta, although RTE also have a NFL highlights programme clashing from 7-8pm.
just back from what truly was a magnificent night! from start to finish it was superb and what a game! Tyrone were on fire, and stephen o neil tis great having him back, still amazed at his point... seemed to defy the laws of gravity! fair play to aidan cassidy... great performance!
beyond expectations!
theres no show like a g.a.a show!
i to am a very proud g.a.a woman today!
Very enjoyable game, exciting second half and thought the show afterwards was class.
Tyrone looked very good in the first half, making the overlapping look very easy - it's frightening how well they can do it. Dublin seemed to be struggling marking space rather than men - on a few occasions in the first Cahill & bastic let their men go and stayed in their 'zone' - it was clear that Tyrone had identified Bastic as a weak link and Cavanagh tried to drag him out to the wing, but Bastic stayed in the square and let Andrews pick him up.
Some top class points from Tyrone in the first half.
Second half Dublin got the wind in their sails and improved hugely - Sherlock gave McMahon a tough time and Dublin stuck over a few nice scores.
Had they been a bit cuter at the end when they won the kickout whilst a point up, they might have won it, but class points from Cavanagh & O'Neill when Tyrone were on the rack won it for the nordies.
What Dublin would give for a tight marking corner back and a couple of wing forwards - if there were a transfer system - John Keane, Brian Dooher and Declan O'Sullivan would do nicely - can't see Sam returning to the capital until we can find those - it's all well and good having spells of five and six points on the bounce but teams can close out games and slow them down.
Lovely pics btw FOSB
Meant to say O'Neill was sheer class - what a player!
Some photos FoSB. Are you a photographer?
Quote from: ziggysego on February 01, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
Some photos FoSB. Are you a photographer?
Thanks Zig (and lads). No, just a hobby, though maybe I'll have to review that if this recession bites any deeper ;)
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 01, 2009, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on February 01, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
Some photos FoSB. Are you a photographer?
Thanks Zig (and lads). No, just a hobby, though maybe I'll have to review that if this recession bites any deeper ;)
Caidé mar tá tú Fear ón Srath Bán
Cracking pics btw. Dose that mean your going to start charging us :)
Mickey Harte, the Tyrone manager, has described Stephen O'Neill as one of the greatest footballers ever following the Clann na Gael man's match-winning performance against Dublin on Saturday night.
O'Neill, who missed most of last season after calling time on his career at the start of 2008, kicked eight points for the Red Hands, one of which will go down in folklore for its sheer majesty.
The double All Star winner put Tyrone 0-9 to 0-4 ahead before the break with a left-footed shot from an acute angle just under the Cusack Stand that will be remembered as one of the greatest scores at Croke Park.
"Stephen O'Neill was sublime all night, we had a few trump cards and they did the business when it was required," said Harte at the post-match briefing.
He added: "It was a real bonus to have him [O'Neill], not just for Tyrone but look what the public would have missed there tonight if we didn't have a player of that quality on display.
"He's is just in the top bracket of Gaelic players that have ever played this game and obviously we are delighted to have him because if you can get enough ball into Stephen O'Neill you are likely to get quite a lot of scores.
"And when you get a lot of scores, you win more games than you lose. That's a real bonus."
Meanwhile, Harte was in little doubt that the GAA's new disciplinary rules helped to produce a free-flowing and entertaining game of football, which was notable for a lack of fouling and the amount of scores from open play, 30 in total.
"I am sure that there is an awareness of the fact that it would be easier to get sent off now they would be a bit more cautious coming into the tackle," he said.
"But I think if it was refereed the way it was tonight – sensibly – I don't think there is much argument. I don't know if you can equate one point to the other, I think there was two good football teams out there tonight.
"The conditions were superb, Croke Park is a great venue and I like when our team scores 1-18."
Sourced Setanta.com: http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/other-sports/2009/01/31/GAA-Harte-on-ONeill/gnid-38106/ (http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/other-sports/2009/01/31/GAA-Harte-on-ONeill/gnid-38106/)
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on February 01, 2009, 05:14:52 PM
Dose that mean your going to start charging us :)
Only if the bailiffs come a knocking BaT, promise ;)
Great game,great result and great entertainment. One of the best ever all round days in croke park and some value at €20 (especially compared to the €95 tickets next week) . Even the weather was good for January. Excellent promotion for our games and will hopefully shut those up who were moaning before hand about the use of croke park/fireworks etc. Considering last night would still have made a small profit its a pity we couldnt have nights like this more often to promote our games. Get 2 of the best in the country together and spend big on entertainment, should help to attract more kids to the games. O'Neill's first half point was unbelievable.
Jaysus ziggy, could you get rid of that dog. Can't stop laughing at it, even in the corner of my eye.
Was a great game and the seats for the Season ticket holders could hardly have been better.
Was good chatting to ya FOSB!
I thought that McGuigan had a great match. Although he rarely played the final ball, I thought that in the first half every point we scored went through him at some point and it was his balls that got us in the position to pull the Dublin defence apart.
The one thing we really need to sort out is the kickouts. Devine was putting them everywhere but to a Tyrone Jersey. I think he hit the sideline more than a Tyrone man in the second half!
Quote from: Doohicky on February 01, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
Was a great game and the seats for the Season ticket holders could hardly have been better.
Was good chatting to ya FOSB!
Are the two of ye not members of your local clubs lads?
Quote from: heffo on February 01, 2009, 08:03:03 PM
Quote from: Doohicky on February 01, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
Was a great game and the seats for the Season ticket holders could hardly have been better.
Was good chatting to ya FOSB!
Are the two of ye not members of your local clubs lads?
It was more a case of us only realising who we each were last week heffo, more neighbours than clubmates!
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 01, 2009, 08:20:07 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 01, 2009, 08:03:03 PM
Quote from: Doohicky on February 01, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
Was a great game and the seats for the Season ticket holders could hardly have been better.
Was good chatting to ya FOSB!
Are the two of ye not members of your local clubs lads?
It was more a case of us only realising who we each were last week heffo, more neighbours than clubmates!
It's a good thing you weren't bitching about him so!
absolutely brilliant game, honestly can say i have never enjoyed a tyrone game as much (barring AI final wins) cant praise SON's score from endline enough, just after seeing it on sunday sport on rte2 and it was even tighter to the line than i thought and i was sitting in lower canal to the left of the posts! the whole evening was a huge sucess, i was firmly in the 'half a million up in smoke' camp but i was completely wrong, the whole experience was spectacular with great music, lighting, fireworks and the run down of great gaa moments was truely spine tingling stuff!
On a light hearted note, i was sitting next to a family from armagh and the wee girl sitting on her dads lap got a bit carried away in the last 5 mins and started roaring for tyrone, cue a stern talking to from dad and a reminder of were she was from :D
Quote from: heffo on February 01, 2009, 08:23:47 PM
It's a good thing you weren't bitching about him so!
Knew he wasn't a Dub ;)
a good game and a cold beer hard to beat ;D ;D
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quick question FOSB, how did u post your photos? i have some good ones that i wouldnt mind putting up but it keeps telling me file size is too large, it only allows up to 128kb and each jpegi have is around 400kb!
Quote from: gerry on February 01, 2009, 08:46:25 PM
a good game and a cold beer hard to beat ;D ;D
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Willie mcCrea JR??
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 01, 2009, 08:47:37 PM
quick question FOSB, how did u post your photos? i have some good ones that i wouldnt mind putting up but it keeps telling me file size is too large, it only allows up to 128kb and each jpegi have is around 400kb!
http://imageshack.us/ (http://imageshack.us/)
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 01, 2009, 08:47:37 PM
quick question FOSB, how did u post your photos? i have some good ones that i wouldnt mind putting up but it keeps telling me file size is too large, it only allows up to 128kb and each jpegi have is around 400kb!
I use www.photobucket.com
og, free to register and the basic offering is good enough.
Quote from: heffo on February 01, 2009, 08:03:03 PM
Quote from: Doohicky on February 01, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
Was a great game and the seats for the Season ticket holders could hardly have been better.
Was good chatting to ya FOSB!
Are the two of ye not members of your local clubs lads?
I'm not actually a member of any club at the moment :-\
I keep saying I am going to join one up here in Belfast, but always have a 'reason' why I don't get around to it. I really should to be honest.
Absolutely fantastic evening, well worth €20. What better entertainment could you get for that money? Would be great if teh GAA could do something like this every year. That really was marketing, plenty of families there whose kids were just enthralled by the whole evening. Great to see. And the match wasn't bad either!
Cavanagh, despite not having the best of games, really stood up when counted. His score to equalise was magnificent. He seemed a bit wary of taking any big hits early on in the game.
SON was fantastic, no other word can describe that performance. Nobody could have marked him last night. However, I am going to throw the cat amongst the pigeons and query whether he meant it. Was he trying to cross the ball to the far post? I'm not sure who it was (Muggsy or Cavanagh) but there was a Tyrone player at the back post.
Swift, Cassidy, Joe McMahon had good games as had McCullagh.
For the Dubs, Bernard Brogan was excellent when he got the ball but he was beaten to it a few times. May have been down to the quality of the ball that was coming in. Whelan was fairly good but his dive was laughable. I think that sort of behaviour should be treated with a red card. Ger Brennan was also good, a tough player who is also good on the ball. Sherlock was lively and Justin McMahon a tough night of it.
Quote from: Doohicky on February 01, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
I thought that McGuigan had a great match. Although he rarely played the final ball, I thought that in the first half every point we scored went through him at some point and it was his balls that got us in the position to pull the Dublin defence apart.
Yes he was good alright, think you could see a lot more of him in that play making role this year.
Anyone else think after watching last night it would be a good idea to have a Leinster Final or even a All Ireland Final at night and have a bit of a shindig with lights/fireworks etc beforehand?
You see it for most finals like the Heineken cup or Champions League
tommy mc guigan has the makings of being equally as good a play maker as brian is his prime, centre half forward is his position... in a matter of interest where is brian at the minute???
Fantastic attacking football last night. credit to tyrone for their passing and support play.
couple of things i thought...
whelan is a handful and had a great game.
SON - fantastic
fair play to cavanagh - stepped up despite having a bit of a mare.
bastick could be the dub's answer at 3.
bernard brogan is a handful.
ditto jayo.
three neagatives...
mcginley should have walked for the number of personal fouls on whelan alone.
the irony of jordan looking whelan booked for play acting!
defenders aren't making tackles for fear of missing fractionally
Hard to see him back to his strongest a pity for him one of the games gentle men.. Will always make the time to say hello esp to the kids a credit to his club and county..
It was cavanagh ref 100% right did not like jordan behaving like a soccer player making a card waving jesture to the ref..
Quote from: pedro on February 01, 2009, 09:01:34 PM
SON was fantastic, no other word can describe that performance. Nobody could have marked him last night. However, I am going to throw the cat amongst the pigeons and query whether he meant it. Was he trying to cross the ball to the far post? I'm not sure who it was (Muggsy or Cavanagh) but there was a Tyrone player at the back post.
I pondered the same thought myself, but concluded that SoN always tries these shots because he has the confident and the skills to make them and get them. Days he gets them and days he doesn't. If he doesn't, doesn't discourage him from trying another day.
Quote from: hardstation on February 01, 2009, 09:12:08 PM
Would like to see Whelan's 'dive' again. I was very surprised by the decision. From where I was (very far away) it looked a certain free and possible tick for the Tyrone player. Cassidy, was it?
Nah, saw it a few times since on telly-box. Whelan rolled around the pitch, holding onto his face. He was barely touched. Everyone agreed on that. Some of the analysis tonight said it should have been a straight red..... that's a bit OTT.
Anyway, he should have gotten a yellow card at throw in, for grabbing S. Cavanagh round the neck and pulling him down. (As should Magee)
Quote from: ziggysego on February 01, 2009, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: pedro on February 01, 2009, 09:01:34 PM
SON was fantastic, no other word can describe that performance. Nobody could have marked him last night. However, I am going to throw the cat amongst the pigeons and query whether he meant it. Was he trying to cross the ball to the far post? I'm not sure who it was (Muggsy or Cavanagh) but there was a Tyrone player at the back post.
I pondered the same thought myself, but concluded that SoN always tries these shots because he has the confident and the skills to make them and get them. Days he gets them and days he doesn't. If he doesn't, doesn't discourage him from trying another day.
Well that's why I am wondering. He could very well have been trying it because he is just about the only player who would try to score from there! I remember the Armagh semi in '05 and he was shooting from everywhere. I think I will give him the benefit of the doubt ;). I was surrounded by a crowd from Tyrone (not far from FoSB by the look of it) and there was just total disbelief when it went over. There was hardly even a cheer because everyone was so astonished, brilliant!
Quote from: aroundincircles on February 01, 2009, 09:05:32 PM
tommy mc guigan has the makings of being equally as good a play maker as brian is his prime, centre half forward is his position... in a matter of interest where is brian at the minute???
As good as Tommy is and could potentially be he has a long way to go in order to reach the heights Brian scaled. As mid louth correstly pointed out Brian has surgery before christmas on a long standing ankle injury and is currently recuperating from that.
"Shoot Stevie, shoot"
The more I read on here the more I'm raging that I didn't make it down. I watched it in a Belfast drinking den. McCullagh seemed to be running the show in the first half but I was a bit wobbly then. O'Neill's point almost sobered me up. Reminded me of Peter v Kerry in 2005. Great to see the Mugsy/Hill pantomime continuing - a bit o craic. Impressed by Brogan.
Did anyone tape the Setanta coverage?
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Quote from: ONeill on February 01, 2009, 10:09:16 PM
The more I read on here the more I'm raging that I didn't make it down. I watched it in a Belfast drinking den. McCullagh seemed to be running the show in the first half but I was a bit wobbly then. O'Neill's point almost sobered me up. Reminded me of Peter v Kerry in 2005. Great to see the Mugsy/Hill pantomime continuing - a bit o craic. Impressed by Brogan.
Did anyone tape the Setanta coverage?
im waiting to hear back from a friends brother who may have it on dvd, if i get a copy i will burn one for you! do u still have any copies of the 95 derry game floating around? iv a dvd of tyrone-dublin from last summer if anyone interested?
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 01, 2009, 10:17:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 01, 2009, 10:09:16 PM
The more I read on here the more I'm raging that I didn't make it down. I watched it in a Belfast drinking den. McCullagh seemed to be running the show in the first half but I was a bit wobbly then. O'Neill's point almost sobered me up. Reminded me of Peter v Kerry in 2005. Great to see the Mugsy/Hill pantomime continuing - a bit o craic. Impressed by Brogan.
Did anyone tape the Setanta coverage?
im waiting to hear back from a friends brother who may have it on dvd, if i get a copy i will burn one for you! do u still have any copies of the 95 derry game floating around? iv a dvd of tyrone-dublin from last summer if anyone interested?
Might have one floating about. I think I send one to an Omagh poster though. Will sort that out.
What was the gist of the presentation on the screens? Old players? Matches?
They went through the different years and highlights. Sherlocks goal in 95 got a good cheer as did Mulligans "wonder" goal in 05 verus the dubs.
Quote from: ziggysego on February 01, 2009, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 01, 2009, 09:12:08 PM
Would like to see Whelan's 'dive' again. I was very surprised by the decision. From where I was (very far away) it looked a certain free and possible tick for the Tyrone player. Cassidy, was it?
Nah, saw it a few times since on telly-box. Whelan rolled around the pitch, holding onto his face. He was barely touched. Everyone agreed on that. Some of the analysis tonight said it should have been a straight red..... that's a bit OTT.
Anyway, he should have gotten a yellow card at throw in, for grabbing S. Cavanagh round the neck and pulling him down. (As should Magee)
Haven't seen any angle of replay that suggests that whelan wasn't touched. tv footage is inconclusive and we'll have to assume the ref had a better angle
Quote from: The GAA on February 01, 2009, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on February 01, 2009, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 01, 2009, 09:12:08 PM
Would like to see Whelan's 'dive' again. I was very surprised by the decision. From where I was (very far away) it looked a certain free and possible tick for the Tyrone player. Cassidy, was it?
Nah, saw it a few times since on telly-box. Whelan rolled around the pitch, holding onto his face. He was barely touched. Everyone agreed on that. Some of the analysis tonight said it should have been a straight red..... that's a bit OTT.
Anyway, he should have gotten a yellow card at throw in, for grabbing S. Cavanagh round the neck and pulling him down. (As should Magee)
The thing that got me most about the Whelan incident which was right in front of me was the ref was very close and originally appeared to give Dublin the free before changin
Haven't seen any angle of replay that suggests that whelan wasn't touched. tv footage is inconclusive and we'll have to assume the ref had a better angle
The thing that got me most about the Whelan incident which was right in front of me was the ref was very close and originally appeared to give Dublin the free before changing his mind when Cavanagh rightly began to complain about Whelan's actions. From where I was the only contact it seemed to me was nowhere near where Whelan was holding himself
As a dublin fan, whelan made a complete eejit out of himself and its something I hope not to see again. But its a bit rich having tyrone fans talking about diving. Ahem philip jordan v diarmuid marsden anyone? Thats why it was a tad ironic when philip jordan was the player in question. Its something thats come into the game in the last few years and its quite unecessary.
Quote from: INDIANA on February 01, 2009, 10:54:55 PM
As a dublin fan, whelan made a complete eejit out of himself and its something I hope not to see again. But its a bit rich having tyrone fans talking about diving. Ahem philip jordan v diarmuid marsden anyone? Thats why it was a tad ironic when philip jordan was the player in question. Its something thats come into the game in the last few years and its quite unecessary.
Its not good when you have to go back 6 years to find an example to try and blacken a players name. Even worse when its a poor example because Jordan was hit up the mouth that day. Marsden didn't deserve to be sent of though as Jordan ran at him and I've never heard exactly what Jordan was reacting to to do that.
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on February 01, 2009, 09:05:02 PM
Anyone else think after watching last night it would be a good idea to have a Leinster Final or even a All Ireland Final at night and have a bit of a shindig with lights/fireworks etc beforehand?
You see it for most finals like the Heineken cup or Champions League
That's a fair suggestion, watch the GAA space I'd say.
Quote from: INDIANA on February 01, 2009, 10:54:55 PM
As a dublin fan, whelan made a complete eejit out of himself and its something I hope not to see again.
Good man, there was a lot of rubbish tagged on to the end of that sentiment that I've very helpfully excised for you. ;)
QuoteAs a dublin fan, whelan made a complete eejit out of himself and its something I hope not to see again. But its a bit rich having tyrone fans talking about diving
Last night at the game I thought Whelan had been fouled . Tonight seeing it again on TV the ref got it right, However Sean Cavanagh fell in the first half on the 21 in front of the canal end when he went to ground as if he was shot and ref allowed free and subsequent point. It's that inconsistency that drives me mad
Quote from: Declan on February 01, 2009, 11:15:38 PM
It's that inconsistency that drives me mad
You have a point there Declan, I was glad to see the referee acting on the flagrant simulation of Whelan, but I think we were lucky enough earlier - Mc Cullagh went down a bit too easily before that, and it didn't look good from where I was seated.
What an occassion positives far outweighed the negatives.
Has given Dublin some hope towards the future!
Well done to the GAA!
Jordan was out of order last night.
Saturday night will definitely go down as one of my greatest ever GAA memories....I felt privileged to be sitting in the lower Hogan and witnessing what was a wonderful spectacle and truly magical occasion. Everything about last night was just so right....the weather, the game, the unique atmosphere, the post-match entertainment etc. It was easily the best £20 I have ever spent. I don't think I have ever been as proud to be a GAA man as I was leaving Croker on Saturday night past.
Well done to everyone involved!!
Quote from: Jimmy14 on February 01, 2009, 11:21:16 PM
What an occassion positives far outweighed the negatives.
Has given Dublin some hope towards the future!
Well done to the GAA!
Hope ! Where you at the same match I was . Tyrone were in second gear for most of the game, their point scoring was unreal. Dublin as usual dropped their heads after their goal . Wanted to have every player touch the ball before taking a shot from 2 yards out .
seemed to me like cavanagh slapped Down on the inside of whelans right arm. Wheelo held his face.
A great evening's entertainment.
Don't know how we were only 4 behind at the break after the superb Tyrone display, but hung in well and absolutely dominated the second half, mainly thanks to an immense display by Whelan.
We should have been well clear, the 6 kicks into the keeper's hands were very poor, but who knows if we'd gone ahead earlier Tyrone may well have come back earlier. Going ahead just at the end of the 70 looked ideal and I honsetly think we would have won it, having the momentum and some of the Tyronies out on their feet - but then two very poor mistakes by Bonner twice handed the ball to Cavanaugh and with tremendous bottle he nailed the equaliser and winning point. Well done!
A pleasure to play Tyrone without all the niggly crap.
Very well done to the ref too (bar one very odd decision to penalise Keaney after he made a great catch over the corner backs head).
This has become a real feel good thread (there are a few trying to input some niggly spoilers for their own reasons but on a whole it's pretty good). Super stuff on Saturday night and congrats to all involved.
Entertaining game and great lift for the football year ahead. Still like to see a bit of defensive and tackling though but Tyrone will probably carry on with this novelty football until serious championship time. O'Neill was excellent and I was particularly impressed by his strength both winning and holding onto the ball. Coupled with the apparent high level conditioning and fitness levels of the entire team this suggests they are up for it this year. Dublin too, looked strong and mobile. Ofcourse if the match had been played on a heavy pitch we may not have seen such an open game. I thought McCullough's score with the outside of the boot even better than ONeill's end line effort.
Quote from: MacCruiskeen on February 02, 2009, 09:04:25 AM
I thought McCullough's score with the outside of the boot even better than ONeill's end line effort.
It was a cracker too. It was almost a case of 'anything you can do I can do better' for Tyrone in the first half.
Quote from: Hound on February 02, 2009, 08:29:23 AM
A great evening's entertainment.
Don't know how we were only 4 behind at the break after the superb Tyrone display, but hung in well and absolutely dominated the second half, mainly thanks to an immense display by Whelan.
We should have been well clear, the 6 kicks into the keeper's hands were very poor, but who knows if we'd gone ahead earlier Tyrone may well have come back earlier. Going ahead just at the end of the 70 looked ideal and I honsetly think we would have won it, having the momentum and some of the Tyronies out on their feet - but then two very poor mistakes by Bonner twice handed the ball to Cavanaugh and with tremendous bottle he nailed the equaliser and winning point. Well done!
A pleasure to play Tyrone without all the niggly crap.
Very well done to the ref too (bar one very odd decision to penalise Keaney after he made a great catch over the corner backs head).
great entertainment but have the new rules taken the physicality out of the game? I'd hate to be a defender in croke park now. Was bad enough before, now its impossible.
Quote from: INDIANA on February 02, 2009, 09:23:42 AM
great entertainment but have the new rules taken the physicality out of the game? I'd hate to be a defender in croke park now. Was bad enough before, now its impossible.
Maybe, but I think the definition of physicality is the key question. Getting rid of Bodychecks and high tackles will be no loss. There's still room for the shoulder charge, when executed and refeereed properly - there was one perfect instance when Whelan gave Cavanaugh a great clatter, Cav got straight back up and play went on.
And defending is a team game, if you put pressure on the man delivering the ball, then it'll be easier for the defender to get their first. And good defenders can still dispossess forwards. While Sherlock gave McMahon a tough enough time, there were at least two occassions when McMahon dispossed him, when Sherlock looked in full control but just dawdled for a split second.
The problem with the new rules will be consistency. But we shouldnt forget that's also a big problem with the previous rules.
the problem is hound when a man gets a black book, you may as well take him off. Take B Brogan vs Magee. I thought it was a great battle but he got a black book early on, yet still did a remarkable job on him until early in the 2nd half he fouled again. Now in my view he probably should have gone at that stage if you're applying the rules but thereafter Bernard ran riot as Magee simply couldn't lay a hand on him. Sean Cavanagh definitely should have gone near the end. Whelan could have gone for his swan lake effort. Again its consistency and I can't see any consistency. And then how would this survive in club football?
I can't see how in a junior club game a ref will be able to keep track fo this.
Great night great game, and nice to see a sneak preview of the all ireland final pairing jousting. ;) The Tyrone Dublin rivalry is now occupying a special place - its as good a game as you'll get to see in the GAA. We'll invite the Kingdom to Omagh now on their fact finding mission and see what they are made of. The whole night was an outstanding success, congrats to Jarleth Burns and his committee and its great the GAAs giving the country something to smile about even when the chips are down. We should be celebrating and marketing ouselves higher and more visably than our competitors because we are worth it.
I must admit I liked the new rules as applied on Saturday night, and I think thats the best bit of referreeing ive seen in ages.
In the Cost Benefit Analysis of the new rules to date, despite the issues and inconsistencies, it seems the general consensus is that they're a success and that the benefits significantly outweigh the costs; particularly with a referee who doesn't let dogma or doctrine obstruct good sense. Saturday night's game was a case in point, and it does mean that all-round support play will assume even greater significance where the only clear cut tackle is the shoulder, and defenders wary of a flailing arm being penalised with yellow. Tyrone's support play in the first half prevailed, but it was Dublin's in the second. Trivia: it's now 14 years since Dublin beat Tyrone in Croke *, in either of the League or Championship!
* Could be worse lads, could be 23 years as it is for Kerry ;)
Great night's entertainment , from start to finish an absolute success . Thought Tyrone were going to a real number on the Dubs , but fair play to them they really stood up in the second half and the atmosphere towards the end was fantastic . Was in the Canal and to see Stephen O'neils point was real privilege , had to turn to the brother to check if I was seeing things . To put on game like that in January was credit to both teams .
I'm trying to remember the songs they played the other night during the fireworks , I have ...
Dreams - Cranberries
Fisherman's Blues - Waterboys
Pride - U2
Thin Lizzy The Boys are Back In Town
Lonesome Boatman
Snow Patrol, but can't remember which song
Yo! Ziggy-are you out there dude? I met your Dad... you stood me up at the match. I was in Jurys with my two cubs but no Zigster tho I aint sure wat you look like tho you did promise to wear a pink carnation. Was one woman with carnation...weren't you in drag was it?...
Anyway I was introduced to your Dad in Jurys tho he don't know I am the Fox. He said, 'There's some quare stuff on that GAA Board.' You missed a good nite...
20 min aftermatch highlights available here
http://www.tv3.ie/sport.php (http://www.tv3.ie/sport.php)
anyone found the match highlights on line??
Anyone got a link to Stevie's impossible point?
Quote from: Doohicky on February 02, 2009, 11:37:36 AM
Snow Patrol, but can't remember which song
Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars
Think the music at the very start was enya
Really enjoyed the two teams running out to music - something that could be done easily for every big game at croker easily enough!
An entertaining enough might. Thought in the 1st half we were in for another hiding but the lads rallied in the 2nd half. Costly mistakes by Stphen C (x2), Bastic, Bonnar and the balls dropping into Devine's hands were the losing of the game imo. Truth be told Tyrone deserved to win imo. Tyrone gifted BB the goal while Tyrone's goal was embarassingly easily conceded from a "nothing ball "in.
Delighted to see the sideline make the early call to sub McConnell while still sorry on a personal level for him. While not whinging I thought the ref got 2 crucial decisions wrong in the 2nd half which went against us........the Keaney "hip" and the Paul Flynn (I think) overhead handpass.....both wrongly penalized imo. Such is life I suppose.
Showing the Mulligan goal 3 or 4 times on the screen was ott......especially given the fact that great teams like the 1960s Galway,Dublin of the 1970s, Meath of the 80/90s amongst others were ignored. Not sure whether the Down team of the 60s got a look in ......disgraceful if they didn't.
My guess is if the match had been played in Omagh we would have had a much slower game with less quality. A big factor being the difference in the quality of the pitch. I know there are plans in place to do the Omagh pitch this year and its time for the gaa to invest in top quality surfaces at all county venues.
In relation to the new rules they appear to be working. Players know referees will be a lot quicker to send them off now and they have to be more disciplined. As long as refs apply common sense they could actually be a success. The thing is that I hope the right balance is got. Players should be yellow carded/ticked for lazy fouls were they make no effort to tackle correctly and just pull the man down. Stopping players running off the ball should be penalised to. Players should not be booked just because they have made a big physical challenge or when they make a genuine attempt at playing the ball.
As touched on earlier Saturday night proved what marketing can do for our games. I hope the gaa dont stand still after this and push on. For example there is a repeat of the All Ireland final in 2 weeks time in Omagh. A small budget should be set aside for local advertising to promote the games. Initiatives such as making school children aware up and down the county that the game is taking place and that they will gain free entry when going with their parents would be a good starting point.
Quote from: Canalman on February 02, 2009, 01:29:02 PM
An entertaining enough might. Thought in the 1st half we were in for another hiding but the lads rallied in the 2nd half. Costly mistakes by Stphen C (x2), Bastic, Bonnar and the balls dropping into Devine's hands were the losing of the game imo. Truth be told Tyrone deserved to win imo. Tyrone gifted BB the goal while Tyrone's goal was embarassingly easily conceded from a "nothing ball "in.
Delighted to see the sideline make the early call to sub McConnell while still sorry on a personal level for him. While not whinging I thought the ref got 2 crucial decisions wrong in the 2nd half which went against us........the Keaney "hip" and the Paul Flynn (I think) overhead handpass.....both wrongly penalized imo. Such is life I suppose.
Showing the Mulligan goal 3 or 4 times on the screen was ott......especially given the fact that great teams like the 1960s Galway,Dublin of the 1970s, Meath of the 80/90s amongst others were ignored. Not sure whether the Down team of the 60s got a look in ......disgraceful if they didn't.
They did, showed 1960 I think...
Thought it was Joe Lennon lifting Sam .
QuoteWhile not whinging I thought the ref got 2 crucial decisions wrong in the 2nd half which went against us........the Keaney "hip" and the Paul Flynn (I think) overhead handpass.....both wrongly penalized imo
Yeah I was screaming at him for those ones alright
Fantastic occasion... some good points taken not a hit put in... God help us if the championship is like that.
The Keaney one was deffo not a free out, but the Flynn handpass was and in fairness the ref pulled someone else up for doing the same thing earlier.
Quote from: Gnevin on February 02, 2009, 12:43:38 AM
Quote from: Jimmy14 on February 01, 2009, 11:21:16 PM
What an occassion positives far outweighed the negatives.
Has given Dublin some hope towards the future!
Well done to the GAA!
Hope ! Where you at the same match I was . Tyrone were in second gear for most of the game, their point scoring was unreal. Dublin as usual dropped their heads after their goal . Wanted to have every player touch the ball before taking a shot from 2 yards out .
Eh 2nd gear perhaps two teams who have not done much training might explain that! Fantastic game end of January!
Seen an awful lot of worse champo games!
Don't think B Brogan or Sherlock can be guilty of that!
"Dropped their heads" seem to remember Dublin coming back twice in the game to take the lead, before being sucker punched by Tyrones experience and class!
Do you not think so?
Quote from: longrunsthefox on February 02, 2009, 11:38:14 AM
Yo! Ziggy-are you out there dude? I met your Dad... you stood me up at the match. I was in Jurys with my two cubs but no Zigster tho I aint sure wat you look like tho you did promise to wear a pink carnation. Was one woman with carnation...weren't you in drag was it?...
Anyway I was introduced to your Dad in Jurys tho he don't know I am the Fox. He said, 'There's some quare stuff on that GAA Board.' You missed a good nite...
Yeah, that was me fox. However I copped a good look at you and to be honest.... kept my distance, you looked a dangerous sort. I sent my father over to suss you out and he came back saying that he felt liked you watched "Deliverance" too many times.
Anyway, the toot-toot dress you were wearing was nice, but your hairy legs turned my stomach.
I f***ing hate that dog Zigster. Was that you in the background singing the Rare old Times before falling over a table of drink and being thrown onto Jones Road. Your Dad seemed embarrased...
Quote from: An Fear Rua on February 02, 2009, 12:17:21 PM
20 min aftermatch highlights available here
http://www.tv3.ie/sport.php (http://www.tv3.ie/sport.php)
anyone found the match highlights on line??
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/newsindex.html
Quote from: heffo on February 02, 2009, 03:32:59 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on February 02, 2009, 12:17:21 PM
20 min aftermatch highlights available here
http://www.tv3.ie/sport.php (http://www.tv3.ie/sport.php)
anyone found the match highlights on line??
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/newsindex.html
Thanks Heffo, but thats Ireland only, and all Im seeing is the link for next week?
cheers
AFR
AFR, I think the TV3 link works all over.
Quote from: An Fear Rua on February 02, 2009, 03:37:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on February 02, 2009, 03:32:59 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on February 02, 2009, 12:17:21 PM
20 min aftermatch highlights available here
http://www.tv3.ie/sport.php (http://www.tv3.ie/sport.php)
anyone found the match highlights on line??
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/newsindex.html
Thanks Heffo, but thats Ireland only, and all Im seeing is the link for next week?
cheers
AFR
Schoolboy error on my part - forgot about the RTE restriction
Last night program is there alright if you could connect..
I see excellent copies are available at McGirrs Spar shop Omagh ;)
Some great reports and positive feedback on the last 20 pages folks.
Been a long time since we had such a feel good factor thread like this so again well done one and all even if Hector might not have been the best choice for that role
A lad at work told me this morning that half way through the fireworks this lad jumps up and shouts
"FCUK the Recession"!
I watched it again yesterday & there were some amazing scores, especially the one from my clubmate Stevie and that great one from McCullagh
He wasn't as good in the second half but you just feel that small skillful players like him can really shine with these new rules
It was great to see so many neutrals there as well with even Derry and Armagh fans behind their fellow Ulster men
I fear that if this poor weather continues then it will be back to reality when Kerry comes to Omagh in 2 weeks time.
What was I saying about Mugsy & goals on Friday?
I must give mention to the 112-page special match programme produced last Saturday night.....some great reading in it. From a Tyrone perspective, the articles by Noel McGinn, Peter The Great and RTE's Tom McGurk are excellent.
McGinn recounts some of the stories of harrassment endured by us Nordies during the Troubles and reiterated the point made by Peter Quinn (before he was cut off by that c*nt Kenny on The Late Late Show) that "we did not feel that we always got the support and backing of our southern comrades and at times felt we were the blacksheep of the family".
The Great One also referred to this in his article: "I was disappointed to see in one televised commemoration of the GAA's anniversary that there was a reluctance to reflect upon the hardships the GAA faced and the struggles of great men and women who gave their lives and many who lost their lives in order that our cultural identity could be maintained in the tradition of our great Gaelic games."
Tom McGurk, meanwhile, recalled how he "first donned the jersey of Brocagh Robert Emmets and began my football career in East Tyrone on the shores of Lough Neagh". He also recalls having to change behind ditches, although failed to mention the curse of the loughshore flies and midgets and the infamous rivalry with his near neighbours from the Hill.
Have to say it was a great nights entertainment on the whole, I have some class pictures of the fireworks on my phone...
Was poised waiting for the Down crest to come on the pitch but, not for the first time, I went too early and got the Donegal colours
:-\
QuoteMcGinn recounts some of the stories of harrassment endured by us Nordies during the Troubles and reiterated the point made by Peter Quinn (before he was cut off by that c*nt Kenny on The Late Late Show) that "we did not feel that we always got the support and backing of our southern comrades and at times felt we were the blacksheep of the family".
Did he go into specifics on what he meant by "support and backing" and how, exactly, they were treated as "blacksheep" ?
Quote from: hardstation on February 02, 2009, 08:55:36 PM
Fcuk it. It's not working and I couldn't be arsed with it anymore.
was on tg4 Station there now
Quote from: milltown row on February 02, 2009, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 02, 2009, 08:55:36 PM
Fcuk it. It's not working and I couldn't be arsed with it anymore.
was on tg4 Station there now
WHAT???? AH FOR PETE'S SAKE!! >:(
highlights on tg4 website on the live player then sport
A really enjoyable evening on the whole. The excellent score taking of O'Neill and Cavanagh was the playing highlight as well as Marty Duffy punishing Whelan for faking injury. I'm worried though that there was no/very little tackling in the game. The whole celebrations were well done. I'm not someone who finds Hector that annoying so I though he did a good job. Overall I was very proud to be Irish and a GAA man leaving Croker on Saturday night.
Just watched it on setanta there (interweb was down so I couldn't warn ye). Great game! I watch the 08 quarter the odd time to cheer myself (cheers Gerry) up but on a whole that was better entertainment. Bernard Brogan is going to be the next Dublin great.
Quote from: hardstation on February 02, 2009, 09:55:44 PM
Quote from: Redhandfan on February 02, 2009, 06:09:40 PM
I must give mention to the 112-page special match programme produced last Saturday night.....some great reading in it. From a Tyrone perspective, the articles by Noel McGinn, Peter The Great and RTE's Tom McGurk are excellent.
McGinn recounts some of the stories of harrassment endured by us Nordies during the Troubles and reiterated the point made by Peter Quinn (before he was cut off by that c*nt Kenny on The Late Late Show) that "we did not feel that we always got the support and backing of our southern comrades and at times felt we were the blacksheep of the family".
The Great One also referred to this in his article: "I was disappointed to see in one televised commemoration of the GAA's anniversary that there was a reluctance to reflect upon the hardships the GAA faced and the struggles of great men and women who gave their lives and many who lost their lives in order that our cultural identity could be maintained in the tradition of our great Gaelic games."
Tom McGurk, meanwhile, recalled how he "first donned the jersey of Brocagh Robert Emmets and began my football career in East Tyrone on the shores of Lough Neagh". He also recalls having to change behind ditches, although failed to mention the curse of the loughshore flies and midgets and the infamous rivalry with his near neighbours from the Hill.
Great programme alright.
Something that stood out for me was on page 55, the wee interview with Ciaran Whelan.
Who will lift Liam MacCarthy in 2009?
Cork look the form team!
What was that about?
An attempt at humour?
For any of you interested, I've uploaded the actual television coverage of the fireworks and lights display.
You can dowload it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/193086187/gaa_fireworks_F6_FastStart_512K_5147.flv.html
Note that this is an flv file and some of you may need to download an flv player aswell.
I'm using real player
Quote from: Azzurri on February 02, 2009, 10:23:21 PM
For any of you interested, I've uploaded the actual television coverage of the fireworks and lights display.
You can dowload it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/193086187/gaa_fireworks_F6_FastStart_512K_5147.flv.html
Note that this is an flv file and some of you may need to download an flv player aswell.
I'm using real player
Good lad yourself Azzurri :)
Quote from: ziggysego on February 02, 2009, 10:55:18 PM
Quote from: Azzurri on February 02, 2009, 10:23:21 PM
For any of you interested, I've uploaded the actual television coverage of the fireworks and lights display.
You can dowload it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/193086187/gaa_fireworks_F6_FastStart_512K_5147.flv.html
Note that this is an flv file and some of you may need to download an flv player aswell.
I'm using real player
Good lad yourself Azzurri :)
no problem. ill try to get up a wmv version of it. converting it at the moment
Quote from: Azzurri on February 02, 2009, 11:00:36 PM
no problem. ill try to get up a wmv version of it. converting it at the moment
I love these technical kids.
Quote from: maggie on February 02, 2009, 11:27:59 PM
Quote from: Azzurri on February 02, 2009, 11:00:36 PM
no problem. ill try to get up a wmv version of it. converting it at the moment
I love these technical kids.
..........so do I. wmv.......is a version that will play in windows media player.........which most people have and its way better quality
Liked Whelo's replies in the Player Profile section.
Answered Tomás Quinn when asked who his favourite former player was.
Remember some years ago he replied under the "Best Advice for Youngsters".............Always wear a tracksuit when going to training on Thursdays to make sure you don't end up in Coppers' at 3am that night.
Never a truer word put to print.
Previous link has reached download limit so you can now get the full fireworks display here:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/afgd6g5/n/gaa_fireworks_F6_FastStart_512K_5147_flv
Watched on Setanta and it was a brilliant advertisement for the GAA. The start, game and aftermath. Tyrone looked great and once again look the team to beat - as last year they look the fittest team in the country and this showed going into the latter part of the game.
Maigheolad
The programme for this game is probably the best one I have ever seen and its as good an official GAA publication as there has been for years....5 yo yos well spent!!
Well done Coiste Chondae Ath Cliath...
Game on setanta sports 2 now for anyone interested....
QuoteThe programme for this game is probably the best one I have ever seen and its as good an official GAA publication as there has been for years....5 yo yos well spent!!
Agreed - a great read but it was interesting to see Dessie Farrell ranked above Mick O'Connell in the top 125 GAA personalities!!!! - Only noticed that particular one because they were on the same page
some good snaps of the whole show here:
http://www.sportsfile.com/photo-essays/gaa/
i like the one from outside croker - shows what it would have been like for any stragglers who got steaming in Quinn's and missed the match :D
I wonder did our friends from retrogaa get the gig for the old style jersies??
QuoteI wonder did our friends from retrogaa get the gig for the old style jersies??
Heard Jarlath Burns saying last night on the radio that O'Neills did them
Just a quick thought
when dublin used four midfielders on sat
where is Eamonn Fennell??
Quote from: mattockranger on February 04, 2009, 06:02:23 PM
Just a quick thought
when dublin used four midfielders on sat
where is Eamonn Fennell??
Out injured
Quote from: Azzurri on February 03, 2009, 06:20:05 PM
Previous link has reached download limit so you can now get the full fireworks display here:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/afgd6g5/n/gaa_fireworks_F6_FastStart_512K_5147_flv
being searching for this, thanks azzurri
link for full match download
http://www.irishtorrents.com/torrents.php?id=1764 (http://www.irishtorrents.com/torrents.php?id=1764)
Quote from: gerry on February 05, 2009, 10:27:43 AM
link for full match download
http://www.irishtorrents.com/torrents.php?id=1764 (http://www.irishtorrents.com/torrents.php?id=1764)
You're a legend Gerry.... many thanks.