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[Yet in other cases they would support the student]

I'd say most Tyrone people and Ulster GAA people will support him until there's proof otherwise, if that ever happens.

Yet in other cases they would support the student...

My point is, despite my own belief that he has been stitched up, that if you defend him simply because he is in the GAA, you are on a very slippery slope.

I don't think Mickey Harte would want an inquiry into his past!!!!!!!!!

I'd have to disagree with you there, and I said as much about the PG incident when it happened. Innocient until proven guilty is the usual default motion for most logical people.

Getting the impression this thread is being created/used to score some low life points.

You obviously havent met any of the McConville family.

You obviously don't know Mickey Harte that well!!!!

[He would need to talk better than write or I couldn't see how he could motivate anybody, never mind a football team,]

Does anyone agree that Micky Harte's column in the Irish News is the most boring load of tripe that anyone could try to read. If it's not the Aussie rules it's the fecking railway cup. Has his needle stuck?
He would need to talk better than write or I couldn't see how he could motivate anybody, never mind a football team,

Managed teams to 3 All Ireland titles,a national league,2 under 21 all irelands,an All Ireland Minor and an Ulster Club. Won multiple (9 I thinkl) ulster titles as a manger at senior, u21 and minor level. I'd say his motivation skills must be ok.

Agreed but his articles are shite

Does anyone agree that Micky Harte's column in the Irish News is the most boring load of tripe that anyone could try to read. If it's not the Aussie rules it's the fecking railway cup. Has his needle stuck?
He would need to talk better than write or I couldn't see how he could motivate anybody, never mind a football team,

I was just about to post a similar quote. His articles are brutal, Jesus Christ, it just isn't fair on the Irish News reader to have to read that tripe on a Friday. Its just full of facts and useless information. No gripping experiences, humour or controversy. Surely the Irish news needs to do something about it. they're bound to be inundated with complaints.

Dominic is the only other man in Tyrone with the influence of Harte.  Its an interesting one alright.  I would give credit for Tyrones success as much at Mc Caugheys door as anyone in Tyrone football.  He has been the continuim from 86.  When he talks it is for a reason and we should all listen, a shrewd  forward thinking man who has the ability to be more ruthless than most to get his way and ultimately the best for Tyrone football. In other words, If Harte dosent build a new team with the resources available to him in 2011....

well said. Mickey is the manager, not the county board and its about time he realises that he's not untouchable

How come Harte was so slow to make the changes?

we are all quick to praise harte when things go well, he doesn't deserve any today. Game lost on the line for sure.......

[Believe Ardboe behaved badly.]

Why was Coalisland game off? Believe Ardboe behaved badly.

What are they supposed to have done this time 

No one can question mickeys ability to manage  the tyrone senior team but surely you have to agree that he single handedly has ruined club football in tyrone

[who are never happy including yourself.]

Anyone else feel that most GAA folk in Tyrone are more eagerly awaiting the club championship than inter-county. I know I certainly am and many I be chatting to . Maybe it is all the success of Tyrone in recent years there isn't that same appetite for it. Was a time getting to an All Ireland semi-final was such excitement and in 2008 hardly a flag went up till a week before the final. Ulster final last year the players didn't even bother to do a lap of honour.
The treatment of clubs recently also soured a lot of people... any thoughts?

tut tut, typical elitist veiw, so we all have to sit back and triddle our thumbs in order to watch dooher and jordan  and co, tut tut, thats what u think of the clu player, i'd say u don't even have a club, jump on the tyyrone band wagon when its going well!!!!! how amany league games were u at, not many i'd say!!!

There are a lot of negative people about who are never happy including yourself. Judging by the support for early championship games it seems there is still good interest in Tyrone. Nothing wrong with supporting both club and county.

I'm very happy I can assure you. Am just asking do people feel less enthusiasm for inter-county football with all our recent success. It didn't really take off in 2008 till near the final. I went to all their games and was a marked decline in number of Tyrone supporters at Dublin game compared to 2005 agaisnt the Dubs (and the replay) and All Ireland semi weren't a huge amount either. I feel that same attitude now which I think is like the Kerry syndrome... wait for the final.
I am more into club football now but will go to Ulster final as it is a big day out and my children will enjoy it. Thanks for the concern about my hapiness al the same 

Maybe after 35 All Irelands or so like Kerry I'll feel the same. For the minute I still enjoy supporting Tyrone and enjoying are success. Players like Dooher,O'Neill,McGuigan,Jordan etc won't be around for much longer and we should enjoy watching the most successful group of players the county has ever had while it lasts. There could be plenty of years ahead when we're not competing at the top.

I will also enjoy the club championship games and no doubt will take in a few this weekend. Just don't feel the need to talk down Tyrone in order to watch club football like a lot of posters here seem to do.

I think that Final Whistle might be referring to the Errigal players pulling out of a league game against Roscommon shortly before Errigal played Nemo Rangers. John Devine was the only Errigal player who travelled as sub keeper.I think Mickey brought it up in his first book.

Mickey has gone quite a distance in destroying club football in Tyrone. reason being, all he cares about is himself although he'll come across as mister democracy!!!!!!! 

That is some ball bag of a stupid post. Brain dead at best

Good come back, point well made, You clown

I think that Final Whistle might be referring to the Errigal players pulling out of a league game against Roscommon shortly before Errigal played Nemo Rangers. John Devine was the only Errigal player who travelled as sub keeper.I think Mickey brought it up in his first book.

Mickey has gone quite a distance in destroying club football in Tyrone. reason being, all he cares about is himself although he'll come across as mister democracy!!!!!!! 

[Sean Cavanagh's shimmy is a good trick. Has he any others?]

1) After beating a transitional Armagh side, Tyrone had an easy route through Ulster
2) The returning players are over the hill and lack hunger
3) All McKenna cup squads were decimated, except for Tyrone
4) Antrim werent worried about a Division 3 trophy
5) St Galls are well rested now
6) Cunninghams trick is a match winning one, so why does he need any others?
7) Harte is due a banana skin in Casement
The bookies got Naomi Long wrong
9)Sean Cavanagh's shimmy is a good trick. Has he any others?

Putting Francie Bellew on his hole.

and crying in the changing rooms when big walsh from cavan nipped him

Not Antrim's style Fuzz...we're there to play football

I think yer right there and maybe that's part of yer downfall. Could do with being a bit more shrewd

Yeah I'd say Big Sean is really out to annoy Harte this year and will go out of his way to play bad to get Mickey Sacked
Mouinho has already said he might leave Inter.

hilarious, probably the funniest post i have ever read, got nthat was so funny, legend, u are a legend, really can't stop laughing here, funny funny funny

[making a meal of the tackle and doing his best Drogba impression, no 6 i think]

Carmen and Cookstown was a decent game, somewhat spoiled by a referee who was very very very inconsistent. Gabriel McCallan got 2 yellow cards and by my reckoning and everyone around me as well, the first one might not have even warrented a free with the Cookstown player making a meal of the tackle and doing his best Drogba impression, no 6 i think (could be wrong there).
With 14 minutes left and two points down and a man down it looked bleak for Carmen but herculian efforts from John Donnelly, Conor Mullan and in particular Paul Daly and Ciaran McAleer meant that Carmen just sneaked over the line. There are signs of improvement and it looks as if Gormley and McGurk along with a few others will be back for the championship.
Cookstown are a good wee outfit this year and with their county players there should be a match for anybody. Lawn has added a bit of steel to the team!

Wouldnt be the first time this year for that lad!

Its the same player too from what i've heard that got a man sent off in kildress i'm not going to mention him again but he may well share a name with an ex french soccer player who featured in a shampoo advert! ... disgraceful - its a pity that when some people are commenting on what a good a job lawn has done with the historical 'townie' attitude that this type of behaviour presists. he'll get a great name for himself in the county for it.

Radda Bout ye.......the same player will be remembered for being Cookstown's all ireland winning captain at Croke Park and wont be worried about what boys like you think. "Townie Attitude"....you make it sound like only townies carry on like this. Wise up. Carrickmore man was unlucky no doubt but thats football.

Your right he will be remembered for being your all ireland winning captain i heard theres a statue being erected on the site of the old St Patricks 'Intermediate' school if you get my drift. All I can say is that I'm sure there have been plenty of players who have went out and made a bad error of judgement when they have received contact and are generally embarrassed when it's shown/told to them again. But to do it twice in the space of three games to get a man sent off in gaelic football – That can't be defended!
Would anyone disagree with me that town teams cookstown especially in the past have shown traits unknown to other teams and all I'm doing is complimenting cookstown and chris lawn on instilling a real desire and passion for GAA in cookstown again. For god sake there must have been a total squad of 50 players with fr rocks out in kildress that day. That was unheard of in the past.

I'm disagreeing with you yes....Name one other example of a "trait" as you put it that "Cookstown especially" display that other teams dont?
The Carrickmore player was sent off for two yellows also, and was persistantly fouling all day. To be honest as a Cookstown man I would argue that other teams in the past have been much more street wise and cuter than us!!!

Diving
Whinging at refs
quarrelling amongst each other when things are going bad
division within the squad at certain times of year
players playing to soccer on a saturday and continuing celebration drinks on a sunday instead of going to GAA match
Poor training turnouts

But i reiterate i compliment cookstown and lawn in eradicating this type of thing in the vast majority of the club.

Here sean cavanagh phoned harte to tell him mc nabb was playin, him and mickey must be good buddies again

Systematic fouling in rotation, persistent blocking runs off the ball and then take lads off when they collect the tick after their yellow.

Enough about Tyrone 2003-9.

Dubs were good today, B Brogan up front was top class again.

Pity Cork threw the game down there as a league final would've been better preparation than a game v Wexford.

Don't know heffo, congrats by the way, I think this is the ideal scenario for Dublin. They can get the head down now and work on bringing things together, safe in the knowledge that they won't have to be at their best to at least get a decent run in Leinster. In truth Dublin will probably make the final while still ironing out the little kinks in their game and getting Keaney and A Brogan more game time. A league final, if it went south, would undo the benefits of the league in one afternoon. I think Dublin are better off avoiding Cork for the moment.

As for Tyrone, I wouldn't be writing off a team that has some big guns to come back. They've beaten both Cork and Kerry in this league so they can't be as bad as some are saying. They'll still be a team to be reckoned with this summer but they are more beatable this year than they have been in the past 7 or 8 years.

wise up, Cork were in 2nd gear and should have won by 10, kerry were toyin with Tyrone too, Tyrone has to understand Gormly, Jordan, harte and mc menamin are way past their best!!!

 N Colm Cile beat 1.20 to 0.10