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The boss is back – and he's not coming to Dublin this time (yet, anyway). You can catch Bruce Springsteen and The E Street Band at Limerick's Thomond Park (July 16), Cork's Páirc Uí Chaoimh (July 18) and Belfast's Kings Hall Arena (July 20). Tickets go on sale next Thursday (December 6, 9am) and are €90 (general admission) and €100 (seats) for the Limerick and Cork shows (plus TM Bruce tax). Weirdly, no prices on the press release for the Belfast show so I'll update that when it comes to hand after they've finished converting euro to sterling to dollars. Memo to those who will inevitably moan about the ticket price: no-one is forcing you to go, bud. Springsteen has played in Belfast before (with the Seeger Sessions Band in 2006 and the E Street Band in December 2007, both at the Odyssey Arena), but it will be his first live outings by the Shannon and the Lee.
Anyone know the likely capacity for the Belfast gig? Would like to get the Indoor one-always the best. No problem getting tickets for the others I reckon given the locations and being mid week and the over saturation in the past 4 years.
Am I right in saying this will be the 11th E Street Band gig in Ireland since December 2007?
Awaiting the furore over ticket prices
Quote from: belleaqua on November 28, 2012, 03:05:40 PM
Anyone know the likely capacity for the Belfast gig? Would like to get the Indoor one-always the best. No problem getting tickets for the others I reckon given the locations and being mid week and the over saturation in the past 4 years.
Am I right in saying this will be the 11th E Street Band gig in Ireland since December 2007?
Awaiting the furore over ticket prices
£79 doesn't sound like it'll be too bad. Considering he plays 2.5 odd hours a night I'd say that's pretty good value!!
Agreed re the indoor gigs - would definitely prefer that one and he's been playing for 3.5 hours on this tour so no probs re value
Edit - Just noticed the Belfast gig is slated as "This is a fully standing outdoor event". Is there an outdoor park/arena as part of the complex?
Why always putting the tickets on sale just before Christmas?
Options as presents maybe to boost sales?? Not ideal for everyone that's for sure though.
Some talk that the Kings Hall gig is outdoor?? I presumed it was an indoor venue. Or is it both like the RDS??
90 yoyo for a gig thats available on youtube is awful value imo
Quote from: belleaqua on November 28, 2012, 03:05:40 PM
Anyone know the likely capacity for the Belfast gig? Would like to get the Indoor one-always the best.
I assume the Belfast one will be outdoors - It's King's Hall Arena.
Quote from: Ulick on November 28, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
Why always putting the tickets on sale just before Christmas?
Are you competing for the most ridiculous question of the year award?!
Quote from: Maguire01 on November 28, 2012, 04:38:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on November 28, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
Why always putting the tickets on sale just before Christmas?
Are you competing for the most ridiculous question of the year award?!
its music maguire, leave party politics out of it :D
Quote from: Maguire01 on November 28, 2012, 04:38:10 PM
Quote from: Ulick on November 28, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
Why always putting the tickets on sale just before Christmas?
Are you competing for the most ridiculous question of the year award?!
It was rhetorical, as in I've enough to be spending money on at the minute, stalker.
I'd say there will still be plenty for sale after the Christmas. This year's concerts were the best he's played in years both for quality and length, but there reaches a point where people can have enough of a good thing. I don't see anything announced yet for England, I wonder if it's payback time for the Hyde Park fiasco or were his sales a bit on the disappointing side last time around.Any word on a new album?
I think this is a farewell tour. I think playing outside dublin is just Bruce saying thanks to all his irish fans. I think this is the last one with the E Streed Band. Everyone in ireland is getting one last chance to see him at a live gig.
Going tonight! :)
QuoteI think playing outside dublin is just Bruce saying thanks to all his irish fans.
;D If he was saying thanks, the shows would be free admission. It's a capitalist world we live in, they are going outside Dublin to give themselves more chance of selling tickets. All Bruce would know is that there are 3 shows in Ireland paying X amount of dollars, and he'll find out the venues when he lands next July.
Amazing the number of people who are unaware that the Kings Hall Arena means the Balmoral Showgrounds in Belfast (where I once had the dubious pleasure of seeing Simply Red in concert).As if they'd stage a Springsteen concert in the 3000-4000 Kings Hall itself
ticketmaster site crashed on me.
no tickets >:(
Quote from: orangeman on December 06, 2012, 09:15:59 AM
ticketmaster site crashed on me.
no tickets >:(
I'm sure some will come up Orangeman . Had my mind made up to go to cork next year however after checking out the price of hotels for the couple of nights down there i decided to give it a miss, throw in petrol and spending money it would be the guts of 700 to 800 yo yo's way way too much .
Website is struggling, but I got through first time on the phone.
2 tickets in the bag for Belshaft. :D
Had 4 different computers loading constantly from 9 and eventually got sorted there now.
Keep the faith!!!
Got tickets for Belfast through the website, but a 12 minute wait.
Got tickets to Belfast but I've been at his last 14 Irish gigs, don't want to break the streak. Damn you ticket master
Quote from: David McKeown on December 06, 2012, 09:35:34 AM
Got tickets to Belfast but I've been at his last 14 Irish gigs, don't want to break the streak. Damn you ticket master
ticketmaster is in trouble this morning.
never rains but it pours
Bugger! Forgot they were on sale today! Ticketmaster not looking promising :(
Quote from: gallsman on December 06, 2012, 09:45:16 AM
Bugger! Forgot they were on sale today! Ticketmaster not looking promising :(
I got through on the telephone.
It takes 10 minutes to complete and it's all automated.
A real pain in the hole !
The Missus got me tickets over the phone and gave them my Phone Number for text confirmation. Lo and behold 5 minutes later I get an automated call from some Payment Protection outfit!!!
I've never had one of these before, surely Ticketmaster aren't allowed to do that?!
All well with the world now, got Limerick and Cork
Quote from: screenexile on December 06, 2012, 09:57:10 AM
The Missus got me tickets over the phone and gave them my Phone Number for text confirmation. Lo and behold 5 minutes later I get an automated call from some Payment Protection outfit!!!
I've never had one of these before, surely Ticketmaster aren't allowed to do that?!
She obviously didn't press the number to decline calls from these outfits.
You'll be tortured now !!
The website is up and running now no bother at all.
No hassle now in getting tickets but there was a good sweat on earlier there.
Got two for Belfast and also looking to get back on tomorrow for Wembley. Kings Hall tickets £79 and Wembley £62.50!
Got two for Belfast.....the website crashed the first time round. See the concert is down for a 5pm start, that's a bit early.
Quote from: mackers on December 06, 2012, 10:27:50 AM
Got two for Belfast.....the website crashed the first time round. See the concert is down for a 5pm start, that's a bit early.
Was the same for the RDS in July - gates will open at 5 and he'll come on stage around 7.45.
Tickets still available for Cork . Limerick seems to be sold out . Tis a pity bruce wouldn't come to Mc Hale park.
Anyone been abroad (Europe) for a Bruce concert? I've always fancied doing this and I'm thinking of going to either Germany or Italy. I'd like to know if anyone has experience of doing this and what they thought of it.
If anyone is looking for 2 x Bruce S concerts for Belfast, I'll swop them for 2 x Pink concerts in Dublin.
Don't ask.
Interesting article in today's Times - http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2013/0115/1224328845057.html (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2013/0115/1224328845057.html)
Book would be a good read I'd imagine
Quote from: ziggy90 on December 06, 2012, 08:21:04 PM
Anyone been abroad (Europe) for a Bruce concert? I've always fancied doing this and I'm thinking of going to either Germany or Italy. I'd like to know if anyone has experience of doing this and what they thought of it.
I went to see him in Zurich. Great atmosphere but I had the feeling not everyone understood the words ..
2 more concerts Nowlan Park 27th and 28th July
Quote from: orangeman on January 31, 2013, 10:40:00 AM
2 more concerts Nowlan Park 27th and 28th July
Yes, but why go to see that when you could go see Nathan Carter in the Athletic Grounds!
Sounds like a cracking line up over the weekend as well
Quote from: the Deel Rover on December 06, 2012, 11:51:36 AM
Tickets still available for Cork . Limerick seems to be sold out . Tis a pity bruce wouldn't come to Mc Hale park.
Amazed that Nowlan Park got two and the Wesht got none. Those striped buggers pulled another fast one.
The stadiums in the Midlands and the West really need to start offering some serious sweetheart deals to promoters to tempt them out, it does no one any good for the grounds to lay idle for most of the year.
Bruce in fine form last night at the Ricoh arena Coventry. Man has some energy. Nice tribute to James Gandolfini with Born to run.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1567906/bruce-springsteen-dedicates-born-to-run-performance-to-james-gandolfini (http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1567906/bruce-springsteen-dedicates-born-to-run-performance-to-james-gandolfini)
Quote from: maddog on June 21, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
Bruce in fine form last night at the Ricoh arena Coventry. Man has some energy. Nice tribute to James Gandolfini with Born to run.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1567906/bruce-springsteen-dedicates-born-to-run-performance-to-james-gandolfini (http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1567906/bruce-springsteen-dedicates-born-to-run-performance-to-james-gandolfini)
The way I'd describe that performance is fooking brilliant!!!!! I even witnessed a certain board member move his feet a couple of times ;) (never thought I'd see the day).
Hello has anyone got two tickets for the gig in Limerick?
My friend has two for Belfast but something has cropped up he can't go and was looking to go to limerick instead.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
First time for me. Great performance at the Ricoh in Coventry (engaging with the crowd), value (3.5 hours), music (mix of styles), energy (man of principle, gives everything). Hope to see Bruce and the band again....if you can get a ticket, snap it up.
Does he have support acts?
3.5 hours for one performer seems a long show to me.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 24, 2013, 12:52:10 PM
Does he have support acts?
3.5 hours for one performer seems a long show to me.
No support.
Bruce doesn't need support.
3 and a half hours of bliss.
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 24, 2013, 12:52:10 PM
Does he have support acts?
3.5 hours for one performer seems a long show to me.
His tickets are value for money.
Went to see him in MetLife stadium in September, a great show and couldn't believe that he played so long. 3.5 hours is about right.
3.5 hours on the stage at 63. Fair play to the lad, he clearly loves what he's doing.
And it's not as if he stands in the one spot, he has a big stage and he plays it all.
Just listening to Bruce on the way home on the bus. Banking man grows fat working man goes thin. It'll happen again. It sure will Bruce and as you said if I had a gun I'd find the bastards and shoot them on sight
Just the sort of lyrics you'd expect from a multi millionaire recording artist,who has everything in common with the working man,and nothing in common with the metaphorically obese banker.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 26, 2013, 12:36:29 AM
Just the sort of lyrics you'd expect from a multi millionaire recording artist,who has everything in common with the working man,and nothing in common with the metaphorically obese banker.
I don't think Bruce was born with a silver spoon has never forgotten his roots, and isn't a diva and the likes unlike jenny from the block.
Hard to fault him for being successful.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 26, 2013, 12:36:29 AM
Just the sort of lyrics you'd expect from a multi millionaire recording artist,who has everything in common with the working man,and nothing in common with the metaphorically obese banker.
Yeah, when I read the Grapes of Wrath, my reaction was "oh, Mr Fancy Pants Nobel Laureate, what possible insight can you have into the life of the working man with your 'words' and 'images'?"
I'm sorry but multi millionaire rock stars giving off about obese bankers is farcical, regardless of their way with lyrics. Equally as farcical as rock stars mouthing off about hunger and availing of foreign tax efficient regimes.
In the ideal world, to which Bruce and Bono presumably aspire, there would be no multi millionaires or no one starving.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 26, 2013, 10:36:24 AM
I'm sorry but multi millionaire rock stars giving off about obese bankers is farcical, regardless of their way with lyrics. Equally as farcical as rock stars mouthing off about hunger and availing of foreign tax efficient regimes.
In the ideal world, to which Bruce and Bono presumably aspire, there would be no multi millionaires or no one starving.
Bono and Bruce sell stuff that people can take or leave.
What do bankers do?
Take deposits that people leave...of their own accord?
Quote from: T Fearon on June 26, 2013, 08:40:28 PM
Take deposits that people leave...of their own accord?
We didn't give €64bn to them of our own accord.
Bruce and Bono deliver a straightforward product. Bankers conceal what they do and lie.
Getting away from the point which is the farce of Bruce and Bono aligning themselves with workers and the famine stricken.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 26, 2013, 09:27:00 PM
Getting away from the point which is the farce of Bruce and Bono aligning themselves with workers and the famine stricken.
But you were the one who made the point of the comparison with bankers.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 26, 2013, 12:36:29 AM
Just the sort of lyrics you'd expect from a multi millionaire recording artist,who has everything in common with the working man,and nothing in common with the metaphorically obese banker.
The obvious comparison with bankers is the enormous wealth they and bankers enjoy, and like bankers,doing very little that really matters in return for it.
Now get yourself a song to sing and sing it 'til you're done
Yeah, sing it hard and sing it well
Send the robber baron's straight to hell
The greedy thieves that came around
And ate the flesh of everything they've found
Whose crimes have gone unpunished now
Walk the streets as free men now
What a truly stupid ill informed comparison. Stick to Big Tom and Sean Quinn Tony.
So you think Bono,Bruce or any Banker lies awake at night worried about the working man?
The stupid and Ill informed are the gobshites who think that singers actually believe the lyrics they write.Only last week Bono told Gay Byrne that U2 pursue tax efficiencies "just like any other business". Top marks for honesty,now he just needs to dispense with preaching bullshit and the hypocrisy.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 27, 2013, 06:52:51 AM
So you think Bono,Bruce or any Banker lies awake at night worried about the working man?
The stupid and Ill informed are the gobshites who think that singers actually believe the lyrics they write.Only last week Bono told Gay Byrne that U2 pursue tax efficiencies "just like any other business". Top marks for honesty,now he just needs to dispense with preaching bullshit and the hypocrisy.
Some of your posting and information is idiotic.
Springsteen and U2 are 100% completely dependent on talent and the choices of individuals for their success. They have no coercive means of making money. It is pure and clear in that respect. They are not the MTV or social media generation. They are not forced on anybody. You have difficulty accepting that and to make a stupid statement like 'Take deposits that people leave...of their own accord?' when referring to taxpayers in this country is ludicrous.
Secondly, yes people believe what these guys write or at least their general themes and influences.
Springsteen didn't release Born In the USA until he was 35 years of age thus becoming commercially successful. His life and wealth did not drastically change until this point. Before that he had written his hardest hitting songs that came from his upbringing in New Jersey and what shaped him, relationship with his father, etc. That said you probably never heard of Darkness on the Edge of Town or Nebraska ::)
Are you suggesting that a man is shaped more in his second 30-35 years or first 35 years? I know which one I feel probably has more of an impact.
The fact that someone is rich and free from monetary pain does not exclude them from writing or singing about this when their whole body of work from 17 years of age is consistent with the same message they put out now.
Have all Springsteens albums,but he is an entertainer at the end of the day and crudely commercial,touring to promote albums,cashing in on nostalgia,exorbitant ticket pricing,or in short,out to make money,like bankers.That is not idiotic,that is fact.Also I believe he is pretty ruthless with staff on tour,firing at a him,hardly the Mark of a socialist with a conscience.
Still if you choose to believe the bullshit,good luck to you.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 27, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
Have all Springsteens albums,but he is an entertainer at the end of the day and crudely commercial,touring to promote albums,cashing in on nostalgia,exorbitant ticket pricing,or in short,out to make money,like bankers.That is not idiotic,that is fact.Also I believe he is pretty ruthless with staff on tour,firing at a him,hardly the Mark of a socialist with a conscience.
Still if you choose to believe the bullshit,good luck to you.
How's that exactly? You presumably get paid for whatever the f**k it is you do when you're not behind your laptop writing to all the papers. Are you like a banker?
People don't have to buy his albums, listen to his songs or pay for tickets to see him live. It's a choice.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 27, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
Have all Springsteens albums,but he is an entertainer at the end of the day and crudely commercial,touring to promote albums,cashing in on nostalgia,exorbitant ticket pricing,or in short,out to make money,like bankers.That is not idiotic,that is fact.Also I believe he is pretty ruthless with staff on tour,firing at a him,hardly the Mark of a socialist with a conscience.
Still if you choose to believe the bullshit,good luck to you.
If you want to discuss nostalgia and exorbitant pricing, then talk about someone like the Stones. How much of their set comes from the last ten years? Or the last 30 years?! Not thecase with Springsteen.
As to your larger point, by your logic, no one on this board should be appalled or feel anger and sympathy when we see victims of third world oppression or famine on the tv. The parallels are similar.
In my own case, I thankfully live a fairly comfortable life, at least for now, in New York City. Does that mean I've lost all feeling and understanding for those who might be suffering very hard times in rural Donegal where I grew up?
How the hell do you know anything about what Springsteen might be seeing among his relatives and friends in NJ?
Give it up!
Quote from: T Fearon on June 27, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
Have all Springsteens albums,but he is an entertainer at the end of the day and crudely commercial,touring to promote albums,cashing in on nostalgia,exorbitant ticket pricing,or in short,out to make money,like bankers.That is not idiotic,that is fact.Also I believe he is pretty ruthless with staff on tour,firing at a him,hardly the Mark of a socialist with a conscience.
Still if you choose to believe the bullshit,good luck to you.
Ha ha starting to feel sorry for you at this stage - where does one start with this?!
1)You have all his albums? I believe you. Now try taking them out of the case and listening to them.
2) Crudely Commercial? How so? One of the poorest artists out there in terms of memorabilia, PR and getting to grips with the times, stage, lighting, etc. Again you don't seem to know what you are talking about.
3) Touring to promote albums? Shock horror. 63 year old artist produces another new relevant album and actually promotes it?? As opposed to knocking a tour out of 30 year old hits?? Average 3 and a half hour setlists?? Shame on him!
4) Cashing in Nostalgia? Refer to point above. How so? 3 new albums in 5 years?? Setlist changes every night. Plenty of youth in audiences. Again a ridiculous ill informed comment.
5) Exorbitant Ticket Prices? Springsteen is typically paid a fee per show. He pays a 17 piece band. 17! Not 4. Promoters set final ticket pricing in many cases after fee agreed and paid. On top of that 3 and a half hour show and ultimate performance given in terms of effort and quality.
6) Out to make money like bankers? Ah yes they are the only profession out doing that. ::) Only job he has ever held is in a band. Damn him for making a success of it.
7) Also I believe he is pretty ruthless with staff on tour,firing at a him,hardly the Mark of a socialist with a conscience?? Oh really tell us more? Has he sacked people in the past? I would believe it no problem. Was he wrong-what details have you?? Is this multiple people? Given he has one of the most enduring and long serving staff with little change I am interested to hear more on this? Is he a socialist by the same definition of yours??
Give it up is right.
Are you obsessive? He is a commercial recording artist with a multi millionaire fortune.If that's not a giveaway regarding his motivation,I don't know what is.
He is canny enough to write lyrics he knows damn well that the gullible will swallow,as he watches his huge fortune grow and grow.Like Bono,he is essentially a businessman,and in terms of wealth accumulation,a very successful one.
When these guys use their vast wealth practically to help the poor and hungry,then I will believe that they believe sincerely what they write and preach.
QuoteWhen these guys use their vast wealth practically to help the poor and hungry,then I will believe that they believe sincerely what they write and preach.
He's never do anything like that now would he?
Bruce Springsteen: Bringing Charity Back Home
January 28, 2004
by Bruce Edward Walker
A spate of newly published biographies of Bruce Springsteen offer a fresh look at the artist's remarkable career, including his role as pop social critic. Two Hearts (Routledge, 2003) by rock scribe Dave Marsh, brings together two previous biographies with a new coda that sums up his subject's career since Springsteen's mid-1980s commercial peak. Bruce Springsteen's America: The People Listening, a Poet Singing (Random House, 2003) by Harvard professor Robert Coles, relates the rocker's relevance to his audience in the first-person narratives of people from all walks of life.
Springsteen's great appeal is based on his common touch, which fans perceive as authentic. Through a remarkable string of albums that includes Darkness on the Edge of Town, The River, Nebraska ,and Born in the U.S.A., Springsteen turned an increasingly compassionate eye on society's downtrodden and regular folk such as Vietnam veterans and blue-collar men and women. "The Boss," as he is known to fans, also manages to balance his albums with songs that celebrate life's simple joys.
But while Springsteen's artistic sympathies are well known, relatively few are aware of his significant charitable works. His acts of compassion are managed, for the most part, without fanfare, and are steered directly to those in need. And he's been helping people for a long time. As Marsh describes in Two Hearts, Springsteen used his newfound fame and fortune during the 1984 Born in the U.S.A. tour to donate generously to food banks and pantries in the cities where he performed.
He has also performed in big charity concerts such as No Nukes, and at benefits for Amnesty International and for victims of 9/11. But lots of singers perform in these kinds of concerts. Sometimes such fundraising rubs a sheen of respectability on otherwise sullied reputations. Hip-hop impresario P. Diddy (Sean Combs) recently competed in the New York Marathon to help raise $2 million for his charity benefiting the children of New York City. That's good public relations for a rap star seeking to find artistic legitimacy with a wider audience. But the fact remains that Combs and his music and film industry cohorts glamorize promiscuous and violent lifestyles without accepting responsibility for the inevitable outcomes of disease, unwanted pregnancies and death.
Much of the direct help that Springsteen offers the needy is consistent with the criteria laid out by Acton Institute senior fellow Marvin Olasky. In "Effective Compassion: Seven Principles from a Century Ago," Olasky wrote: "Before developing a foundation project or contributing to a private charity, we should ask: 'Does it work through families, neighbors, and religious or community organizations, or does it supersede them?'"
Springsteen limited his giving in the early 1980s to communities on his itinerary that had reputable mechanisms for distributing food and necessities to individuals needing temporary assistance. Some of his charitable works have helped individuals and groups in his home state of New Jersey, the state that served as inspiration for many of his better-known songs. He financed the building of the Newark Community Food Bank in the 1980s, and donated a reported $50,000 to replace the roof when it collapsed. He donated another $80,000 to help out union workers laid off from the 3M factories in Freehold. In the late 1990s, he gave more than $350,000 to provide home improvements for the needy in Monmouth County. The Newark Star-Ledger reported that $9,500 of that sum went to repair the home of a retiree confined to a wheelchair.
Recognition of the inherent dignity of all human persons is a theme of many of Springsteen's songs. That sympathy colors his private charitable acts. Rather than succumb totally to the impulse to donate his talents and fortune to high-profile causes run by abstract bureaucracies, Springsteen told Kurt Loder in the 1980s: "I want to try and just work more directly with people; try to find some way [to] tie into the communities we come into." Aside from a body of pop music rivaled only by the Beatles and Bob Dylan, this may be his most worthwhile legacy.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 28, 2013, 06:16:17 AM
Are you obsessive? He is a commercial recording artist with a multi millionaire fortune.If that's not a giveaway regarding his motivation,I don't know what is.
He is canny enough to write lyrics he knows damn well that the gullible will swallow,as he watches his huge fortune grow and grow.Like Bono,he is essentially a businessman,and in terms of wealth accumulation,a very successful one.
When these guys use their vast wealth practically to help the poor and hungry,then I will believe that they believe sincerely what they write and preach.
No. I am just taking umbrage with the absolute drivel you are spouting and calling you on it.
The fact that your argument has now resorted to deflecting questions about being obsessive and implying people who appear to me to be much more informed than you as 'gullible' shows it up.
As the post above shows suggests there is and has always been an effort from Springsteen with the 'poor and the hungry' as you have suggested their should. However your next line will probably be to dismiss this as damn all and claim he should give it all away before being seen as genuine.
Lads who gives a fcuk what Tony F thinks about Bruce just head to the shows and enjoy it's money well spent.
Exactly.Enjoy the shows,don't let your conscience bother you that you've shelled out 100 euros to a global brand. ;D
Genuinely amazed by the amount of people on this thread willing to take vicarious offence on behalf of a multi millionaire rock star/entertainer who doesn't even know them much less give a fiddlers about them after pocketing the dosh ::)
Quote from: T Fearon on June 29, 2013, 12:03:10 AM
Exactly.Enjoy the shows,don't let your conscience bother you that you've shelled out 100 euros to a global brand. ;D
Genuinely amazed by the amount of people on this thread willing to take vicarious offence on behalf of a multi millionaire rock star/entertainer who doesn't even know them much less give a fiddlers about them after pocketing the dosh ::)
I thought you had "all" his albums? That would have set you back more than E 100 for a concert ticket?
How's your "conscience on that"?
Or well they all presents? I'd imagine (judging by your posts) that you're really popular and have lots of generous friends.
I enjoy his music and have been to at least three concerts.But I regard him as an entertainer,not the voice of the oppressed,dispossessed etc.
Quote from: T Fearon on June 29, 2013, 09:07:38 PM
I enjoy his music and have been to at least three concerts.But I regard him as an entertainer,not the voice of the oppressed,dispossessed etc.
Oh I see. You "shell out E100" (x3) to "a global brand" + E????? on "all" his albums because you "regard him as an entertainer" not like the other 99.99% who regard him as "the voice of the oppressed, dispossessed etc".
Quote from: J70 on June 28, 2013, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 27, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
Have all Springsteens albums,but he is an entertainer at the end of the day and crudely commercial,touring to promote albums,cashing in on nostalgia,exorbitant ticket pricing,or in short,out to make money,like bankers.That is not idiotic,that is fact.Also I believe he is pretty ruthless with staff on tour,firing at a him,hardly the Mark of a socialist with a conscience.
Still if you choose to believe the bullshit,good luck to you.
If you want to discuss nostalgia and exorbitant pricing, then talk about someone like the Stones. How much of their set comes from the last ten years? Or the last 30 years?! Not thecase with Springsteen.
As to your larger point, by your logic, no one on this board should be appalled or feel anger and sympathy when we see victims of third world oppression or famine on the tv. The parallels are similar.
In my own case, I thankfully live a fairly comfortable life, at least for now, in New York City. Does that mean I've lost all feeling and understanding for those who might be suffering very hard times in rural Donegal where I grew up?
How the hell do you know anything about what Springsteen might be seeing among his relatives and friends in NJ?
Give it up!
what exactly do you do for the stricken people of rural donegal?
enjoy your 'comfortable life', hope you find bruce across the river!
I heard he has an invitation to meet Bruce in Atlantic City, to discuss practical wealth redistribution ::)
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 02:32:51 PM
I heard he has an invitation to meet Bruce in Atlantic City, to discuss practical wealth redistribution ::)
He's waiting on El Papa in Rome to lead the charge on that front.
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on July 01, 2013, 02:18:04 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 28, 2013, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 27, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
Have all Springsteens albums,but he is an entertainer at the end of the day and crudely commercial,touring to promote albums,cashing in on nostalgia,exorbitant ticket pricing,or in short,out to make money,like bankers.That is not idiotic,that is fact.Also I believe he is pretty ruthless with staff on tour,firing at a him,hardly the Mark of a socialist with a conscience.
Still if you choose to believe the bullshit,good luck to you.
If you want to discuss nostalgia and exorbitant pricing, then talk about someone like the Stones. How much of their set comes from the last ten years? Or the last 30 years?! Not thecase with Springsteen.
As to your larger point, by your logic, no one on this board should be appalled or feel anger and sympathy when we see victims of third world oppression or famine on the tv. The parallels are similar.
In my own case, I thankfully live a fairly comfortable life, at least for now, in New York City. Does that mean I've lost all feeling and understanding for those who might be suffering very hard times in rural Donegal where I grew up?
How the hell do you know anything about what Springsteen might be seeing among his relatives and friends in NJ?
Give it up!
what exactly do you do for the stricken people of rural donegal?
enjoy your 'comfortable life', hope you find bruce across the river!
None of your fuckin business what I do for anyone.
My point was that just because my circumstances have changed, it doesn't mean I forget my roots or that I am oblivious or apathetic to those who might be struggling in my home area.
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I heard he has an invitation to meet Bruce in Atlantic City, to discuss practical wealth redistribution ::)
He's waiting on El Papa in Rome to lead the charge on that front.
You would be waiting a while on that bunch of medieval head bangers actually doing anything to help people.
J70 But what are you doing in the way of practical assistance? More importantly, assuming you do not have the resources that Bruce enjoys, what is he doing on a practical level to help those he waxes lyrically about? At the end of the day remembering your roots costs nothing, fertilising them does.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
J70 But what are you doing in the way of practical assistance? More importantly, assuming you do not have the resources that Bruce enjoys, what is he doing on a practical level to help those he waxes lyrically about? At the end of the day remembering your roots costs nothing, fertilising them does.
Again, none of your business and totally beside the point.
The issue is your claim that a (now) rich singer has no clue what poor people might be living through and experiencing.
As for what Springsteen does in terms of charity work, he's played plenty of benefits, and every show I've been to of his stateside has had fundraising staff for homeless and hunger causes. What he does privately, I've no idea. Neither do you. But again, that wasn't the point.
So you think a lot but do nothing?
The point is that it is crass for multimillionaires to pretend they care about poor unfortunate people, as if the system was right, there would be neither millionaires nor poor people.
Springsteen is a good entertainer with the business acumen to con a vast array of people into believing he gives a shit about the poor as he amasses huge wealth. A bit like so many clerics, who preach but don't practice the Gospel message. A clever marketing tool, used by global brands the world over, if you'll pardon the pun.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
So you think a lot but do nothing?
The point is that it is crass for multimillionaires to pretend they care about poor unfortunate people, as if the system was right, there would be neither millionaires nor poor people.
Springsteen is a good entertainer with the business acumen to con a vast array of people into believing he gives a shit about the poor as he amasses huge wealth. A bit like so many clerics, who preach but don't practice the Gospel message. A clever marketing tool, used by global brands the world over, if you'll pardon the pun.
Listen, don't presume to make pronouncements about what I do. This is a public internet forum. I have no intention of making anything but the most vague personal revelations. My charitable acts are private.
And capitalism does not preclude charity or sympathy for those less fortunate.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
Springsteen is a good entertainer with the business acumen to con a vast array of people into believing he gives a shit about the poor as he amasses huge wealth. A bit like so many clerics, who preach but don't practice the Gospel message. A clever marketing tool, used by global brands the world over, if you'll pardon the pun.
I'd say you'd be hard pushed to find any of us are going to see him over the next few weeks because we've been conned "into believing he gives a shit about the poor as he amasses huge wealth". I for one am going to see him because I've spent a majority of my life growing up listening to his music, the majority of which I happen to love and because I believe he's one of the best live entertainers of any form on the planet.
Galls man nothing wrong with that and is the reason why I've been to numerous concerts of his.
But the likes of J70 swallow the shit that he's some sort of People's Poet for the oppressed.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
Galls man nothing wrong with that and is the reason why I've been to numerous concerts of his.
But the likes of J70 swallow the shit that he's some sort of People's Poet for the oppressed.
Nope, I don't know the man but I don't think he does. Like the rest of us on here he likes the music, he knows what inspired it and was merely responding to your bullsh*t comments that have all been thoroughly refuted.
We all know that he has become a multimillionaire through the success of his talent and all know he inhabits a wealth and a lifestyle we can only imagine.
However we also appreciate where the music comes from; the influences that shaped his songwriting and acknowledge that there has been a consistent theme for over 40 years.
You have ignored all the posts that have refuted all your baseless statements and have taken the track of trying to imply fans of his music are naive, gullible and misinformed in a sad attempt to put your point across.
Quote from: J70 on July 01, 2013, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
So you think a lot but do nothing?
The point is that it is crass for multimillionaires to pretend they care about poor unfortunate people, as if the system was right, there would be neither millionaires nor poor people.
Springsteen is a good entertainer with the business acumen to con a vast array of people into believing he gives a shit about the poor as he amasses huge wealth. A bit like so many clerics, who preach but don't practice the Gospel message. A clever marketing tool, used by global brands the world over, if you'll pardon the pun.
Listen, don't presume to make pronouncements about what I do. This is a public internet forum. I have no intention of making anything but the most vague personal revelations. My charitable acts are private.
And capitalism does not preclude charity or sympathy for those less fortunate.
im sure your heart bleeds for those less fortunate!
that fact that you are so defensive about this on a 'public internet forum' is telling
'please sir, can i have some of your charity and sympathy'
as i said before, enjoy your comfortable life, im waiting in donegal when u decide to help those less fortunate
Quote from: belleaqua on July 02, 2013, 01:35:54 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
Galls man nothing wrong with that and is the reason why I've been to numerous concerts of his.
But the likes of J70 swallow the shit that he's some sort of People's Poet for the oppressed.
Nope, I don't know the man but I don't think he does. Like the rest of us on here he likes the music, he knows what inspired it and was merely responding to your bullsh*t comments that have all been thoroughly refuted.
We all know that he has become a multimillionaire through the success of his talent and all know he inhabits a wealth and a lifestyle we can only imagine.
However we also appreciate where the music comes from; the influences that shaped his songwriting and acknowledge that there has been a consistent theme for over 40 years.
You have ignored all the posts that have refuted all your baseless statements and have taken the track of trying to imply fans of his music are naive, gullible and misinformed in a sad attempt to put your point across.
+1. That pretty much nails it.
Springsteen like Neil Young. John Mellencamp and a host of other US artist has a history of using his fame and time to help causes such as Amnesty and Farm Aid. So his talent and his day job has made him wealthy, how does that make him any less sincere about issues than those of us less well off? It doesn't make him a Saint either, something that he him self would admit. There is a new book out in which he documents the untreated manic depression of his father and how it affect his family and indeed his own struggle with depression. Small things like this can help.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
Galls man nothing wrong with that and is the reason why I've been to numerous concerts of his.
But the likes of J70 swallow the shit that he's some sort of People's Poet for the oppressed.
WTF are you talking about?
I was refuting your point that a man like him can know nothing of what its like to struggle in life, which you would know is bullshit if you knew anything about his upbringing.
But given your obvious obtuseness, lets bring it closer to home for you: the lads on the board who grew up in the troubles, but now, thankfully, live a peaceful, secure, life, either because they moved away, or because hopefully their hometown has now left the troubles behind - can those lads (presumably including yourself) look back, years later, and speak informatively or even write songs accurately addressing what it was like? Can they look at people in similar trouble spots, elsewhere on the globe, and, even though they've left that life behind, feel sympathy and know what those people are going through?
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on July 02, 2013, 02:26:24 AM
Quote from: J70 on July 01, 2013, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
So you think a lot but do nothing?
The point is that it is crass for multimillionaires to pretend they care about poor unfortunate people, as if the system was right, there would be neither millionaires nor poor people.
Springsteen is a good entertainer with the business acumen to con a vast array of people into believing he gives a shit about the poor as he amasses huge wealth. A bit like so many clerics, who preach but don't practice the Gospel message. A clever marketing tool, used by global brands the world over, if you'll pardon the pun.
Listen, don't presume to make pronouncements about what I do. This is a public internet forum. I have no intention of making anything but the most vague personal revelations. My charitable acts are private.
And capitalism does not preclude charity or sympathy for those less fortunate.
im sure your heart bleeds for those less fortunate!
that fact that you are so defensive about this on a 'public internet forum' is telling
'please sir, can i have some of your charity and sympathy'
as i said before, enjoy your comfortable life, im waiting in donegal when u decide to help those less fortunate
If you want to discuss what I've written, fine.
If you want to get in a flame war based on what you think you can read between lines written by someone you don't know, go ahead, but I'm not interested.
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Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
Galls man nothing wrong with that and is the reason why I've been to numerous concerts of his.
But the likes of J70 swallow the shit that he's some sort of People's Poet for the oppressed.
Nope, I don't know the man but I don't think he does. Like the rest of us on here he likes the music, he knows what inspired it and was merely responding to your bullsh*t comments that have all been thoroughly refuted.
We all know that he has become a multimillionaire through the success of his talent and all know he inhabits a wealth and a lifestyle we can only imagine.
However we also appreciate where the music comes from; the influences that shaped his songwriting and acknowledge that there has been a consistent theme for over 40 years.
You have ignored all the posts that have refuted all your baseless statements and have taken the track of trying to imply fans of his music are naive, gullible and misinformed in a sad attempt to put your point across.
+1. That pretty much nails it.
+2. Great post.
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Quote from: belleaqua on July 02, 2013, 01:35:54 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
Galls man nothing wrong with that and is the reason why I've been to numerous concerts of his.
But the likes of J70 swallow the shit that he's some sort of People's Poet for the oppressed.
Nope, I don't know the man but I don't think he does. Like the rest of us on here he likes the music, he knows what inspired it and was merely responding to your bullsh*t comments that have all been thoroughly refuted.
We all know that he has become a multimillionaire through the success of his talent and all know he inhabits a wealth and a lifestyle we can only imagine.
However we also appreciate where the music comes from; the influences that shaped his songwriting and acknowledge that there has been a consistent theme for over 40 years.
You have ignored all the posts that have refuted all your baseless statements and have taken the track of trying to imply fans of his music are naive, gullible and misinformed in a sad attempt to put your point across.
+1. That pretty much nails it.
+2. Great post.
Indeed!
Hi guys, might be a bit of a long shot, but does anyone have a spare for the kings hall gig? I have one sorted but trying to get one for the ladyfriend.
Cheers,
MB
Quote from: mb80b60 on July 04, 2013, 02:10:23 PM
Hi guys, might be a bit of a long shot, but does anyone have a spare for the kings hall gig? I have one sorted but trying to get one for the ladyfriend.
Cheers,
MB
Some tickets for sale on www.donedeal.ie for the Belfast gig
Go mine tickets, sorted through gum tree, not leave it so late in future
It's likely I will have two standing tickets for sale, will know for sure this evening.
Any takers? Would prefer to sell the two together first up.
Face value of course.
Quote from: Bingo on July 04, 2013, 05:56:58 PM
It's likely I will have two standing tickets for sale, will know for sure this evening.
Any takers? Would prefer to sell the two together first up.
Face value of course.
Hi Bingo,
I will definintely take one off you if possible. Are they still for sale?
QuoteBut the likes of J70 swallow the shit that he's some sort of People's Poet for the oppressed.
TF - For starters i don't think anyone has implied that, but while your on the subject I was wondering what you think of Bob Dylan, he tour's a lot these days?
What was your view on Johnny Cash when he was alive? Have you any view on Morrissey or Johnny Marr? Any thoughts on Billy Bragg?
Quote from: Bingo on July 04, 2013, 05:56:58 PM
It's likely I will have two standing tickets for sale, will know for sure this evening.
Any takers? Would prefer to sell the two together first up.
Face value of course.
I'd take one ticket if it was for sale Bingo.
Lads,
Seems there are two looking one ticket each, which will suit the best. Can ye drop me a PM and I'll arrange passing them on to ye.
Cheers
Highorlow,my views on the artistes you mentioned are that they are quite simply commercial recording artistes,nothing more or nothing less,all living or lived privileged lives without any of the problems,oppression etc that they seem so fond of writing and singing about.
http://m.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/07/30/120730fa_fact_remnick?currentPage=all (http://m.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/07/30/120730fa_fact_remnick?currentPage=all)
Someobe tweeted the link to that (very long) article saying "If you don't love Springsteen at the end of this magnificent New Yorker piece, yr probably dead".
I have an extra ticket for the Kilkenny show on Sunday 28th July. If anyone is looking it just send me a pm.
Andy Murray donated hsi Wimbledoon prize cheque of £1.6m to a Cancer Hospital. When did you ever see Springsteen and/or Bono practice what they lyrically preach?
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 11:43:32 AM
Andy Murray donated hsi Wimbledoon prize cheque of £1.6m to a Cancer Hospital. When did you ever see Springsteen and/or Bono practice what they lyrically preach?
Not sure what Andy Murray has to do with anything, but Bruce Springsteen has donated millions to charity.
What a surprise, more lies. Andy Murray donated his Queen's winnings (http://www.lta.org.uk/fans-major-events/LTA-summer-grass-court-events/Aegon-Championships/News/2013/Andy-Murray-continues-support-of-The-Royal-Marsden/) to the Royal Marsden. He has not donated his Wimbledon winnings (https://twitter.com/_PaulHayward/status/353955998463041536). I guess he might do. He'll probably now get abuse if he doesn't. But as of now, it's just not true.
Not like Fearon to jump in feet first.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 11:43:32 AM
Andy Murray donated hsi Wimbledoon prize cheque of £1.6m to a Cancer Hospital. When did you ever see Springsteen and/or Bono practice what they lyrically preach?
Firstly, I'm sure you on your usual WU but Murray hasn't stated anywhere that he is donating any of his prize money and said so yesterday after it to journo's. It was internet specualtion and hearsay due to the fact he donated his prize money from the Queens tournement to the cancer hospital - stg73,000, which was very honourable.
Secondly, if you where been cynical (like yourself), you'd know the prize money will pale in comparison to his bankability now and been seen as the sort who donates prize money would only increase this further.
Thirdly, you have no idea what Bono, springsteen or anyone else does. I read once an article about some fundraiser head in Ireland and he was asked about the likes of Bono supporting his charity and he put that he'd rather 2/3 hours of Bonos time than a donation from him as would be far more benefical to the charity.
"Secondly, if you where been cynical (like yourself), you'd know the prize money will pale in comparison to his bankability now and been seen as the sort who donates prize money would only increase this further "
Ignore, if you will, the crime against grammar as represented in the above sentence, and simply ponder if Springsteen and Co were to make a similar gesture, would the alleged impact not be the same? Kudos and enhanced bankability?
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 12:32:31 PM
"Secondly, if you where been cynical (like yourself), you'd know the prize money will pale in comparison to his bankability now and been seen as the sort who donates prize money would only increase this further "
Ignore, if you will, the crime against grammar as represented in the above sentence, and simply ponder if Springsteen and Co were to make a similar gesture, would the alleged impact not be the same? Kudos and enhanced bankability?
Well you can answer that, you seem to have issue with anyone with anyone been successful and not giving everything away. Sports stars will need a good public profile to make them marketable and allow them continue to earn when the actual playing days stop eg TV work, endorsements, branding etc. Music or rock stars won't, they can tour and fill venues regardless of age or perceived public image.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 11:43:32 AM
Andy Murray donated hsi Wimbledoon prize cheque of £1.6m to a Cancer Hospital. When did you ever see Springsteen and/or Bono practice what they lyrically preach?
Tell us Tony, what kind of charitable donations do Springsteen and Bono make or don't make?
And given that you're not walking away from the discussion, you still haven't answered my questions from a few days back.:
Can you or any of the other northern lads speak informatively about growing up in and experiencing the troubles, even if you've moved away from it and left that life behind? Could you boys draw from your experience and write about what it is like to live through, either in prose or song? Could you genuinely speak about what people in similar trouble spots around the world are going through, even though it might be decades since you, or other lads here, lived it yourself?
Quote from: J70 on July 08, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 11:43:32 AM
Andy Murray donated hsi Wimbledoon prize cheque of £1.6m to a Cancer Hospital. When did you ever see Springsteen and/or Bono practice what they lyrically preach?
Tell us Tony, what kind of charitable donations do Springsteen and Bono make or don't make?
And given that you're not walking away from the discussion, you still haven't answered my questions from a few days back.:
Can you or any of the other northern lads speak informatively about growing up in and experiencing the troubles, even if you've moved away from it and left that life behind? Could you boys draw from your experience and write about what it is like to live through, either in prose or song? Could you genuinely speak about what people in similar trouble spots around the world are going through, even though it might be decades since you, or other lads here, lived it yourself?
Ah well no like, it didnt touch my doorstep therefore dont comment. ::)
Top post j70
Definitely. I could write a song, Born to Run, as I had to do that often enough to avoid a kicking, or Born in N.I. "The first kick I nearly got was avoided when I hit the ground running".
So why can't Springsteen write about poverty and working class struggles given that he himself grew up in those circumstances?
Going off topic, the two tickets I have are still available as the above deals didn't come off.
The multi-millionaire is well worth seeing ;)
J70, he has every entitlement to write songs and make millions, no problem with that. But I am just pointing out that his songs about oppression etc ostensibly rail against the very "system" that made him a multi millionaire in the first place (ie capitalism, commercial promotion to enhance wealth, tax regimes that favour the super rich etc), so if he truly objects to the "system" he should renounce the vast wealth he has accrued from that same "system".
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 03:50:21 PM
J70, he has every entitlement to write songs and make millions, no problem with that. But I am just pointing out that his songs about oppression etc ostensibly rail against the very "system" that made him a multi millionaire in the first place (ie capitalism, commercial promotion to enhance wealth, tax regimes that favour the super rich etc), so if he truly objects to the "system" he should renounce the vast wealth he has accrued from that same "system".
What drivel
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
Definitely. I could write a song, Born to Run, as I had to do that often enough to avoid a kicking, or Born in N.I. "The first kick I nearly got was avoided when I hit the ground running".
:D :D
Hates the Crown but loves the halfcrown.
Quote from: deiseach on July 08, 2013, 04:46:17 PM
Hates the Crown but loves the halfcrown.
Anyone know of a hotel with even 1 room for Saturday night?
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 03:50:21 PM
J70, he has every entitlement to write songs and make millions, no problem with that. But I am just pointing out that his songs about oppression etc ostensibly rail against the very "system" that made him a multi millionaire in the first place (ie capitalism, commercial promotion to enhance wealth, tax regimes that favour the super rich etc), so if he truly objects to the "system" he should renounce the vast wealth he has accrued from that same "system".
But that's not what we were discussing. You were condemning him for some of the songs he writes, claiming that his current status meant he could have no clue what it was like to be poor or working class or whatever.
And the rest of your post precludes the possibility that a capitalist system can be run in a fair way, without the manipulation, fraud and ridiculous deregulation that lead to the most recent US crash.
And I'm not claiming he's a saint or above contradiction or hypocrisy in his personal life. No one is. He's had a couple of disgruntled former employees over his 40+ year career (is there any business person who hasn't?), but the vast majority of people have stayed with him. I've read stories of his people playing hardball with members of the E Street Band over pay, while Springsteen himself tells said members to "stick it" to the management (makes no sense to me either!). I'm sure he can be a complete arsehole, as can anyone. But that wasn't the point. The point was whether he could genuinely address the issues he addresses in his music.
No doubt he can address the issues,in a very profitable and crassly commercial way.
The point I thought we were discussing was sincerity and the extent to which he genuinely cares,or my firm belief that he is simply cashing in and conning people.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 06:28:43 PM
No doubt he can address the issues,in a very profitable and crassly commercial way.
The point I thought we were discussing was sincerity and the extent to which he genuinely cares,or my firm belief that he is simply cashing in and conning people.
Like the Church?
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 06:28:43 PM
No doubt he can address the issues,in a very profitable and crassly commercial way.
The point I thought we were discussing was sincerity and the extent to which he genuinely cares,or my firm belief that he is simply cashing in and conning people.
So to equate it the six counties, in your opinion anyone who leaves it behind but still writes or sings about the troubles is just crassly exploiting it. They couldn't possibly REALLY care, based on their youthful experiences or the current ones of their relatives.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
Definitely. I could write a song, Born to Run, as I had to do that often enough to avoid a kicking
This I can believe.
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Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
Definitely. I could write a song, Born to Run, as I had to do that often enough to avoid a kicking
This I can believe.
Born to talk, learned to run.
Sorry but multi millionaires and tax evaders rabbiting on about oppression,and the poor downtrodden salt of the earth do not tug at my heartstrings,nor do I need to know that they pretend to care.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 09:03:13 PM
Sorry but multi millionaires and tax evaders rabbiting on about oppression,and the poor downtrodden salt of the earth do not tug at my heartstrings,nor do I need to know that they pretend to care.
Oh but they do.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 09:03:13 PM
Sorry but multi millionaires and tax evaders rabbiting on about oppression,and the poor downtrodden salt of the earth do not tug at my heartstrings,nor do I need to know that they pretend to care.
Is Bruce Springsteen a tax evader?
Quote from: T Fearon on July 08, 2013, 09:03:13 PM
Sorry but multi millionaires and tax evaders rabbiting on about oppression,and the poor downtrodden salt of the earth do not tug at my heartstrings,nor do I need to know that they pretend to care.
Still won't answer what is a simple question.
One also wonders why Springsteen so vociferously campaigns for and endorses Democrats, as opposed to Republicans, who, if you believe Tony, should be his natural political bedfellows.
That's a simple one.Democrats theoretically are the fit for his lyrics.Look I'm not even saying that Sprinsteen and Bono don't believe in their respective causes,but the fact that they are sitting on millions,and add to their vast wealth each day,means that they benefit personally and willingly from the "system" they claim to despise,and they both have necks made of brass to continue to pontificate lyrically or otherwise against the system.
They cannot separate their beliefs from the system and retain credibility or as Bono says of his tax efficient schemes "That's the way business works"
100% behind Anthony here. Bruce has fooled you all.
Would also like to throw Nathan Carter into the mix. I bet he hasn't even tasted a Wagon Wheel. Wee skitter has women and children up dancing and him never ates chocolate himself. Pisses me off. Fcuk you Nathan.
Thanks Shane.I knew I could rely on your support. :P
Quote from: ONeill on July 09, 2013, 07:55:45 AM
100% behind Anthony here. Bruce has fooled you all.
Would also like to throw Nathan Carter into the mix. I bet he hasn't even tasted a Wagon Wheel. Wee skitter has women and children up dancing and him never ates chocolate himself. Pisses me off. Fcuk you Nathan.
Says it all really :o.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 06:27:35 AM
That's a simple one.Democrats theoretically are the fit for his lyrics.Look I'm not even saying that Sprinsteen and Bono don't believe in their respective causes,but the fact that they are sitting on millions,and add to their vast wealth each day,means that they benefit personally and willingly from the "system" they claim to despise,and they both have necks made of brass to continue to pontificate lyrically or otherwise against the system.
They cannot separate their beliefs from the system and retain credibility or as Bono says of his tax efficient schemes "That's the way business works"
Theoretically?
Democrats means much higher taxes for men like Springsteen. And as I've already stated, but you yet again ignore, the "system" doesn't have to be corrupted as it was in the lead up to the collapse. There is nothing contradictory about earning wealth and despising the chicanery of Wall Street and the political corruption that enables it.
But at least you're now giving him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his genuine belief in these issues, and no longer accusing him of "crass" cynicism!
You cannot, with a straight face and any credibility, wax lyrically about the poor,oppressed etc, if you're a multi millionaire operating with a commercial contract and charging 100 plus euros/pounds a ticket and exorbitantly priced merchandise for your gigs. That is the plain and very simple irrefutable fact.
Now by all means enjoy Springsteen's shows but don't try to portray him as some sort of Mother Teresa like champion of the oppressed and poor, none of whom could afford to go to see his rallies (gigs) or purchase his (commercial) output or branded merchandise (official of course, not to be confused with the hawkers selling material of similar quality at a much more competitive rate)
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 10:57:30 AM
You cannot, with a straight face and any credibility, wax lyrically about the poor,oppressed etc, if you're a multi millionaire operating with a commercial contract and charging 100 plus euros/pounds a ticket and exorbitantly priced merchandise for your gigs. That is the plain and very simple irrefutable fact.
Now by all means enjoy Springsteen's shows but don't try to portray him as some sort of Mother Teresa like champion of the oppressed and poor, none of whom could afford to go to see his rallies (gigs) or purchase his (commercial) output or branded merchandise (official of course, not to be confused with the hawkers selling material of similar quality at a much more competitive rate)
Well if that's your attitude, then no one with any money should champion any cause that exists due to lack of funding, whether poverty, health or environmental! Bill Gates does sterling work, but sure he only has the money to do it in the first place because he's cleaning up with Microsoft's long standng near-monopoly! :
And, by the way, I don't recall equating Springsteen with Mother Theresa.
Quote from: J70 on July 09, 2013, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 10:57:30 AM
You cannot, with a straight face and any credibility, wax lyrically about the poor,oppressed etc, if you're a multi millionaire operating with a commercial contract and charging 100 plus euros/pounds a ticket and exorbitantly priced merchandise for your gigs. That is the plain and very simple irrefutable fact.
Now by all means enjoy Springsteen's shows but don't try to portray him as some sort of Mother Teresa like champion of the oppressed and poor, none of whom could afford to go to see his rallies (gigs) or purchase his (commercial) output or branded merchandise (official of course, not to be confused with the hawkers selling material of similar quality at a much more competitive rate)
Well if that's your attitude, then no one with any money should champion any cause that exists due to lack of funding, whether poverty, health or environmental! Bill Gates does sterling work, but sure he only has the money to do it in the first place because he's cleaning up with Microsoft's long standng near-monopoly! :
And, by the way, I don't recall equating Springsteen with Mother Theresa.
Did Mother Theresa no have a few bob about her as well as dubious political friendships?
Tony you are one of the defenders of the Catholic Church on this site, Sean Brady in particular.
Get off your high horse.
Bill Gates etc do not promote or self style themselves as the Champions of the oppressed, they quietly, in the latter stages of their lives, use a substantial portion of their wealth for the benefit of others.
The crucial difference here is that Springsteen and Bono, above all other major recording artists, allegedly side with the poor and oppressed and arguably do so only for crass commercial reasons and for their own benefit.
I have no great problem with the likes of Alan Sugar, Richard Branston etc making millions, as that is what they unashamedly set out to do,but it's those who laughingly claim to be on the side of the poor and oppressed,while living in huge mansions etc that get on my nerves.
Once again I am flabbergasted by the amount of people who continue to take vicarious offence on behalf of these Rock stars,as if I've shattered their conceptions of a saintly figure they revere.
Get over it, believe me they do not care about you, after they've relieved you of a considerable wad of dosh for tickets to see them.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
Bill Gates etc do not promote or self style themselves as the Champions of the oppressed, they quietly, in the latter stages of their lives, use a substantial portion of their wealth for the benefit of others.
The crucial difference here is that Springsteen and Bono, above all other major recording artists, allegedly side with the poor and oppressed and arguably do so only for crass commercial reasons and for their own benefit.
I have no great problem with the likes of Alan Sugar, Richard Branston etc making millions, as that is what they unashamedly set out to do,but it's those who laughingly claim to be on the side of the poor and oppressed,while living in huge mansions etc that get on my nerves.
Once again I am flabbergasted by the amount of people who continue to take vicarious offence on behalf of these Rock stars,as if I've shattered their conceptions of a saintly figure they revere.
Get over it, believe me they do not care about you, after they've relieved you of a considerable wad of dosh for tickets to see them.
Once again Tony avoids answering the points raised to him.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
Bill Gates etc do not promote or self style themselves as the Champions of the oppressed, they quietly, in the latter stages of their lives, use a substantial portion of their wealth for the benefit of others.
The crucial difference here is that Springsteen and Bono, above all other major recording artists, allegedly side with the poor and oppressed and arguably do so only for crass commercial reasons and for their own benefit.
I have no great problem with the likes of Alan Sugar, Richard Branston etc making millions, as that is what they unashamedly set out to do,but it's those who laughingly claim to be on the side of the poor and oppressed,while living in huge mansions etc that get on my nerves.
Once again I am flabbergasted by the amount of people who continue to take vicarious offence on behalf of these Rock stars,as if I've shattered their conceptions of a saintly figure they revere.
Get over it, believe me they do not care about you, after they've relieved you of a considerable wad of dosh for tickets to see them.
Tony they write and sing songs about anything and everything. They make no promises and everyone is free to take or leave what they offer.
You do know that the 'Yellow Submarine' isn't real or there isn't an actual 'Stairway to Heaven'?
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
Bill Gates etc do not promote or self style themselves as the Champions of the oppressed, they quietly, in the latter stages of their lives, use a substantial portion of their wealth for the benefit of others.
The crucial difference here is that Springsteen and Bono, above all other major recording artists, allegedly side with the poor and oppressed and arguably do so only for crass commercial reasons and for their own benefit.
I have no great problem with the likes of Alan Sugar, Richard Branston etc making millions, as that is what they unashamedly set out to do,but it's those who laughingly claim to be on the side of the poor and oppressed,while living in huge mansions etc that get on my nerves.
Once again I am flabbergasted by the amount of people who continue to take vicarious offence on behalf of these Rock stars,as if I've shattered their conceptions of a saintly figure they revere.
Get over it, believe me they do not care about you, after they've relieved you of a considerable wad of dosh for tickets to see them.
;D ;D
There ya go again!
You're not dealing with idiots here yet you continue to spout the same rubbish over and over and have it rebuffed and refuse to answer the questions you were asked and ignore any points that have been thoroughly refuted.
I certainly don't view Springsteen as a saintly figure. The only vicarious offense we are taking is people spouting bullshit and lies in an effort to bolster their futile arguments.
For the final time though you struggle to see it, Springsteen has been beating the same drum thematically for his entire musical career. It took him 5 or arguably 7 albums before he became commercially successful. Yes we know he is now a multi multi millionaire due to his success. Yes we know he continues to make massive money from this music. However those of us here who seem to be relatively clued in also know the background to it, the motivations for it and choose to believe that as the evidence is there. You consistently refuse to acknowledge or accept that there is no element of exploitation here. It's a voluntary act to buy these tickets but again we don't accept a coherent response.
Also give me one instance of Springsteen referring himself as being 'the peoples poet' or 'championof the oppressed'? Remember these are your words now not his or anyone elses on this forum.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
Bill Gates etc do not promote or self style themselves as the Champions of the oppressed, they quietly, in the latter stages of their lives, use a substantial portion of their wealth for the benefit of others.
The crucial difference here is that Springsteen and Bono, above all other major recording artists, allegedly side with the poor and oppressed and arguably do so only for crass commercial reasons and for their own benefit.
I have no great problem with the likes of Alan Sugar, Richard Branston etc making millions, as that is what they unashamedly set out to do,but it's those who laughingly claim to be on the side of the poor and oppressed,while living in huge mansions etc that get on my nerves.
Once again I am flabbergasted by the amount of people who continue to take vicarious offence on behalf of these Rock stars,as if I've shattered their conceptions of a saintly figure they revere.
Get over it, believe me they do not care about you, after they've relieved you of a considerable wad of dosh for tickets to see them.
And you've been to Rome how many times?
I near fell off the chair when I read that.
What has that got to do with two rock stars pontificating about world hunger, working class etc and making millions on the back of it?
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 04:12:46 PM
What has that got to do with two rock stars pontificating about world hunger, working class etc and making millions on the back of it?
Irony isn't dead, it's been cremated and fired into space.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 04:12:46 PM
What has that got to do with two rock stars pontificating about world hunger, working class etc and making millions on the back of it?
Who else do you know who pontificates (big clue right there) about world hunger and is making millions whilst living in big mansions?
Stop digging Tony.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 04:12:46 PM
What has that got to do with two rock stars pontificating about world hunger, working class etc and making millions on the back of it?
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Total red herring.Catholic missionaries and agencies like Trocaire have been active for decades alleviating poverty in the world's most deprived areas.Also the present Pope is preaching and leading by example in spurning ostentation and praticising charity.Using photographs of his predecessor invalidates your argument completely.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
Bill Gates etc do not promote or self style themselves as the Champions of the oppressed, they quietly, in the latter stages of their lives, use a substantial portion of their wealth for the benefit of others.
The Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation is low profile?? ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
The crucial difference here is that Springsteen and Bono, above all other major recording artists, allegedly side with the poor and oppressed and arguably do so only for crass commercial reasons and for their own benefit.
How does it benefit Springsteen's sales of records and tickets to focus on the poor and oppressed, as opposed to youthful dreaming of escape or "cars and girls" or even foreign policy or whatever other areas he's covered in different albums? The Ghost of Tom Joad is one of his lowest selling. The latest album hasn't set the world alight either. For the first time in a long time (or maybe ever) he's not bringing the tour back to the US after Europe this year. And his partisan political grandstanding has alienated a good portion of his audience.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
I have no great problem with the likes of Alan Sugar, Richard Branston etc making millions, as that is what they unashamedly set out to do,but it's those who laughingly claim to be on the side of the poor and oppressed,while living in huge mansions etc that get on my nerves.
As others have alluded to, are you this cynical about the catholic church and their motives?
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
Once again I am flabbergasted by the amount of people who continue to take vicarious offence on behalf of these Rock stars,as if I've shattered their conceptions of a saintly figure they revere.
I'm not offended. I just think you're talking shite!
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
Get over it, believe me they do not care about you, after they've relieved you of a considerable wad of dosh for tickets to see them.
Yeah, I think we're all aware that rock stars have no personal feelings for us, but thanks for that anyway!
And no one is holding a gun to anyone's head making them buy concert tickets or songs off iTunes. I'm pretty selective in who I go to see. I happen to think Springsteen is superb value for money, so I go when I can. Same with the NY Knicks. Baseball, not so much.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 07:39:52 PM
Total red herring.Catholic missionaries and agencies like Trocaire have been active for decades alleviating poverty in the world's most deprived areas.Also the present Pope is preaching and leading by example in spurning ostentation and praticising charity.Using photographs of his predecessor invalidates your argument completely.
Pourquoi?
Because the present Pope has initiated major reforms.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 08:32:22 PM
Because the present Pope has initiated major reforms.
So if Bruce brings out a new album rapping about his crib and all his bling, you will be cool with him then?
No.I will be indifferent.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 09:40:34 PM
No.I will be indifferent.
Thought so.
You can't simply dislike someone, you must be superior to them in some way.
Dislike? Ive been to many Springsteen and U2 concerts and enjoyed them.I just do not buy into this voice of the oppressed stuff.
Same as catholicism,I believe in the Theology but accept that many humans within the church have at best been guilty of serious mistakes and at worst,unimaginable corruption.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 10, 2013, 12:21:16 AM
Dislike? Ive been to many Springsteen and U2 concerts and enjoyed them.I just do not buy into this voice of the oppressed stuff.
Same as catholicism,I believe in the Theology but accept that many humans within the church have at best been guilty of serious mistakes and at worst,unimaginable corruption.
A Question. This "voice of the oppressed stuff", are you taking this from something Bruce Springsteen has actually said, or is it deduced from the lyrics of his songs ?
Quote from: muppet on July 09, 2013, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 04:12:46 PM
What has that got to do with two rock stars pontificating about world hunger, working class etc and making millions on the back of it?
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I thought of world hunger when i saw the gold ceiling at the Vatican.
Most of the opulence on display at the Vatican is in the form of gifts received over the centuries from other nations,empires,dignatories etc. Even if those donors were to be insulted posthumously by a fire sale, where are the potential purchasers etc? Not too many takers for a gold ceiling I would suggest? Also this undoubtedly attracts tourists to the Vatican who help to fund the global church.
As I said previously Catholic aid agencies have more than played their part in attempts to alleviate poverty and initiate development throughout the Third World, for decades.
Meanwhile I see Springsteen and the licenced trade in Limerick are helping each other to even more profit by keeping the pubs open until 2am on the occasion of his forthcoming gig at Thomond! Classic case of you scratch my back....
Quote from: T Fearon on July 10, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
Most of the opulence on display at the Vatican is in the form of gifts received over the centuries from other nations,empires,dignatories etc. Even if those donors were to be insulted posthumously by a fire sale, where are the potential purchasers etc? Not too many takers for a gold ceiling I would suggest? Also this undoubtedly attracts tourists to the Vatican who help to fund the global church.
As I said previously Catholic aid agencies have more than played their part in attempts to alleviate poverty and initiate development throughout the Third World, for decades.
Meanwhile I see Springsteen and the licenced trade in Limerick are helping each other to even more profit by keeping the pubs open until 2am on the occasion of his forthcoming gig at Thomond! Classic case of you scratch my back....
Firstly on the gold. Where are the potential buyers? Are you serious?
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As for the 'gifts' theory? From dead South American cultures, or the Nazis? http://articles.latimes.com/1997/jul/23/news/mn-15484 (http://articles.latimes.com/1997/jul/23/news/mn-15484)
Secondly, if doing charity work for the poor gets The Church off, then why does it not get Bono and Bruce off and not only that: why are they the only hypocrites?
Springsteen and the vintners, conspiring together to keep the pubs open a bit later to fleece the punters and line their pockets with their ill-gotten gains!! I presume, Tony, the concert goers will be rounded up and forced into said pubs at the point of a gun? It will just be like the emptying of the ghettos! Couldn't possibly be the case that there might be a demand on the part of some for a few social pints after a major gig! Do you even believe the shite you're spouting?! ;D
So? Any takers for a gold ceiling? Or Michaelangelo's Last Judgement? Don't talk crap. Income from tourists that these gifts attract goes to alleviate global poverty, as does the self sacrifice of many good clerics, a lot of them operating with vows of poverty, and to provide pastoral care. It doesn't go into their own pockets like that of Springsteen and Bono.
Still no convincing argument, save that of the red herring called the catholic church.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 10, 2013, 04:54:57 PM
So? Any takers for a gold ceiling? Or Michaelangelo's Last Judgement? Don't talk crap. Income from tourists that these gifts attract goes to alleviate global poverty, as does the self sacrifice of many good clerics, a lot of them operating with vows of poverty, and to provide pastoral care. It doesn't go into their own pockets like that of Springsteen and Bono.
Still no convincing argument, save that of the red herring called the catholic church.
Yes, we are still waiting.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 10, 2013, 04:54:57 PM
Don't talk crap.
In fairness you will have to stop typing to cut out the crap talk.
It is July Tony, and the leader of the Charity will probably be at the Apostolic Palace of Castel Gandolfo.
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Probably a gift and there would hardly be a buyer for that either. Do they know Jesus was born in a stable?
But when there is a buyer for a plot, they could exhume any unfortunates buried there, like the 155 victims of the Magdalene Laundries, to increase the value.http://theraggedwagon.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/1993-riddle-of-the-magdalene-laundry-dead-who-are-they/ (http://theraggedwagon.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/1993-riddle-of-the-magdalene-laundry-dead-who-are-they/)
Voice of the oppressed anyone?
Boils down to where the proceeds go,into the ever bulging pockets of rock stars,or to sustain a global church and all it's missionary/charitable/pastoral work worldwide.
Your entire "argument" is based on a presumption you appear to have, which is that rock stars like Bono and Springsteen do no charitable work. And also on some bizarre notion that no rich, successful person should advocate for the less fortunate while at the same time enjoying personal financial success.
Should Springsteen cease performing The River, as an example?
It's about a guy who is forced into a struggling marriage during hard times by an unplanned pregnancy.
Or a song like Used Cars, about a kid's humiliation at the succession of crap old cars his family's dire circumstances force them into.
Or Factory, which is about the soul destroying nature of that type of menial work?
Quote from: T Fearon on July 10, 2013, 06:23:15 PM
Boils down to where the proceeds go,into the ever bulging pockets of rock stars,or to sustain a global church and all it's missionary/charitable/pastoral work worldwide.
I'll refer the right honourable gentleman to my earlier answers:
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Was at a function in the Vatican on Saturday and heard the Pope speak for an hour about modesty and humility and "going back to basics".
There were about 20 Cardinals there too from around the world, and I got the feeling he was very much including them in that diktat too.
No Castle Gandolpho for this guy Muppet. He hasnt moved out of the digs which he used for the conclave at which he was elected, and is still shared by visiting priests and clergy from around the world. My brother, who is a Priest, had breakfast and lunch with him three or four times in what cannot be described as much more than a simple "canteen", along with half a dozen other ordinary members of the clergy. No airs or graces with this guy!
Did the tour of the Sistine and Mass on Sunday inside the Basilica too, and way to much wealth on show there I agree. I was a bit disgusted at the sheer commercialism - but please dont underestimate Pope Francis intentions to make the church a much more humble and modest place.
He has practically thrown away the mould, and I think in time he will become the most popular Pope ever.
Quote from: bannside on July 10, 2013, 09:00:57 PM
Was at a function in the Vatican on Saturday and heard the Pope speak for an hour about modesty and humility and "going back to basics".
There were about 20 Cardinals there too from around the world, and I got the feeling he was very much including them in that diktat too.
No Castle Gandolpho for this guy Muppet. He hasnt moved out of the digs which he used for the conclave at which he was elected, and is still shared by visiting priests and clergy from around the world. My brother, who is a Priest, had breakfast and lunch with him three or four times in what cannot be described as much more than a simple "canteen", along with half a dozen other ordinary members of the clergy. No airs or graces with this guy!
Did the tour of the Sistine and Mass on Sunday inside the Basilica too, and way to much wealth on show there I agree. I was a bit disgusted at the sheer commercialism - but please dont underestimate Pope Francis intentions to make the church a much more humble and modest place.
He has practically thrown away the mould, and I think in time he will become the most popular Pope ever.
To be fair I have been very impressed with the new man to date. A real breath of fresh air.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 09, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
Bill Gates etc do not promote or self style themselves as the Champions of the oppressed, they quietly, in the latter stages of their lives, use a substantial portion of their wealth for the benefit of others.
The crucial difference here is that Springsteen and Bono, above all other major recording artists, allegedly side with the poor and oppressed and arguably do so only for crass commercial reasons and for their own benefit.
I have no great problem with the likes of Alan Sugar, Richard Branston etc making millions, as that is what they unashamedly set out to do,but it's those who laughingly claim to be on the side of the poor and oppressed,while living in huge mansions etc that get on my nerves.
Once again I am flabbergasted by the amount of people who continue to take vicarious offence on behalf of these Rock stars,as if I've shattered their conceptions of a saintly figure they revere.
Get over it, believe me they do not care about you, after they've relieved you of a considerable wad of dosh for tickets to see them.
Tony I've got it, your just pissed that they have more followers on twitter than you! get over it.
Hey! 827 followers for a man with a low profile like me ain't bad! Some big names (and Margaret Ritchie) following me as well! ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on July 11, 2013, 09:22:20 AM
Hey! 827 followers for a man with a low profile like me ain't bad! Some big names (and Margaret Ritchie) following me as well! ;D
Here, I wouldn't go boasting about Maggie following you, as for the low profile your the biggest man in the Pass outside of the McAleeces!
Lol! Still trailing the Magills though ;D
Putting this back out there:
Two tickets for sale for Saturday in Belfast, standing tickets.
PM me for details.
Tickets Sold :-[
Anyone a ticket or two for Kilkenny on the Saturday? Only gig im not currently going to
Anyone heard anything about pit passes for Belfast?
seems like Bruce is the only only capable of getting the Cats attention this summer ;) ;)
Having been name checked by Limerick hurling manager John Allen on Sunday, veteran US rocker Bruce Springsteen came up for further mention in a GAA context when Croke Park confirmed he was the reason for the unusual timing of the Cork-Kilkenny All-Ireland hurling quarter-final the weekend after next.
It had been assumed the latest edition of hurling's most recurrent All-Ireland pairing would be top of the bill in Thurles, with Clare and Galway opening proceedings on Sunday 28th of this month.
"It was a simple response to a request," according to Feargal McGill, the GAA's Head of games administration. "Bruce Springsteen is playing that evening in Nowlan Park and naturally a number of Kilkenny people have tickets to attend.
What a gig and what a man. 30 odd songs including some very rare performances. 3.5 hours of sheer brilliance
Heard on the radio earlier that he played 3 acoustic tunes at 5.20pm during the sound check at the Limerick gig. Would have been pretty cool if you were in the venue early.
Bruce if you are reading this thread, (and I am convinced you are) can we have Thunder Road and Independance Day? Please?????
QuoteHeard on the radio earlier that he played 3 acoustic tunes at 5.20pm during the sound check at the Limerick gig. Would have been pretty cool if you were in the venue early.
Yep and played an old Jersey Shore classic as well during it - one for the real old die hards
Streets of Fire, Candy's Room, I'm Going Down, Into the Fire and the full band version of Atlantic City please, Boss!
Springsteen fans are very passionate/fanatical towards the man and his music. I have spoken to a right few over the last month and it's almost cultish. Nothing wrong with that by the way.
Quote from: ONeill on July 18, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
Springsteen fans are very passionate/fanatical towards the man and his music. I have spoken to a right few over the last month and it's almost cultish. Nothing wrong with that by the way.
and yet he is laughing at them behind their back as he lodges another few million in the bank...
Been to see him roughly 10 times now and only heard Jungleland and 41 Shots once, so those please! Trapped would also be great.
41 Shots has to be heard live to be believed!
Quote from: mb80b60 on July 18, 2013, 11:41:10 AM
Been to see him roughly 10 times now and only heard Jungleland and 41 Shots once, so those please! Trapped would also be great.
41 Shots has to be heard live to be believed!
He did 41 shots in Thomond on Tue - superb effort - the sound quality was excellent also, much better than his RDS gigs during teh past number of years.
Have seen him many many time live and Tue was in my top 2 - great atmosphere around Limerick before and after also.
Would expect him to be playing 41 Shots quite a bit over next few weeks following the Zimmerman acquittal.
Regardless of the lyrical content, I think it's an incredible song. The version on Live in New York City is spine-tingling.
O'Neill, I have to confess to being one of those cult members, a fanboy if you will. Springsteen just seems to resonate with Irish people.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 18, 2013, 11:34:39 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 18, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
Springsteen fans are very passionate/fanatical towards the man and his music. I have spoken to a right few over the last month and it's almost cultish. Nothing wrong with that by the way.
and yet he is laughing at them behind their back as he lodges another few million in the bank...
Absolutely correct Toni Baloney. There should be a public investigation in how The Springsteen Mafia hoodwinks the innocent irish fans into parting with their hard earned millions. It cant be right that I had Nils and Steven arrive at my house forcing me at guitar point to go online and buy tickets for every concert here since 1985. But even more sinister is the fact that I have been kidnapped several times and brought to UK, Holland and Germany and forced to endure his particular brand of torture. At this point I am living in fear that I will be abducted by Springsteen UFO's and abandoned somewhere in the swamps of jersey. Just the thought of it fills me with dread. We need to expose this meanace.
The cult-like aura surrounding the Boss is something I find kinda off-putting. Not because I think he's a charlatan or anything like that, it's the way his fans know everything about him is intimidating to the newbie. The AV Club had a very enjoyable primer (http://www.avclub.com/articles/primer-bruce-springsteen,2052/) on his work a few (six!) years back, I really must follow up on it some day.
Edit: as an aside, one of the comments on that link notes how "there's nothing embarrassing about him [live] like some rock stars who should've quit a long time ago". Strange but true.
Quote from: fearglasmor on July 18, 2013, 02:12:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 18, 2013, 11:34:39 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 18, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
Springsteen fans are very passionate/fanatical towards the man and his music. I have spoken to a right few over the last month and it's almost cultish. Nothing wrong with that by the way.
and yet he is laughing at them behind their back as he lodges another few million in the bank...
Absolutely correct Toni Baloney. There should be a public investigation in how The Springsteen Mafia hoodwinks the innocent irish fans into parting with their hard earned millions. It cant be right that I had Nils and Steven arrive at my house forcing me at guitar point to go online and buy tickets for every concert here since 1985. But even more sinister is the fact that I have been kidnapped several times and brought to UK, Holland and Germany and forced to endure his particular brand of torture. At this point I am living in fear that I will be abducted by Springsteen UFO's and abandoned somewhere in the swamps of jersey. Just the thought of it fills me with dread. We need to expose this meanace.
Thousands of captives at a time actually revelling in their ordeal. It's the biggest case of mass Stockholm syndrome known to man.
Quote from: deiseach on July 18, 2013, 03:03:54 PM
The cult-like aura surrounding the Boss is something I find kinda off-putting. Not because I think he's a charlatan or anything like that, it's the way his fans know everything about him is intimidating to the newbie. The AV Club had a very enjoyable primer (http://www.avclub.com/articles/primer-bruce-springsteen,2052/) on his work a few (six!) years back, I really must follow up on it some day.
Edit: as an aside, one of the comments on that link notes how "there's nothing embarrassing about him [live] like some rock stars who should've quit a long time ago". Strange but true.
While I am a huge Springsteen fan I would have to agree with you there. Some of it can be off putting, its like a competition with some people you would meet. Casual friends of mine have said the same but in fairness they are in the minority (the Bruce know it alls) despite being a large one!
Anyway, incredible night in Limerick. As stated here already the sound quality was excellent I felt and was in my top 2-3 shows ever. Anytime you here the Born to Run alum straight through you have had a good night. It's a phenomenal run of 8 brilliant songs. Absolutely loved it.
Not a bad gig tonight. Not as good as Tuesday but still good. Great ending with a solo accoustic Thunder Road. Shorter than normal too.
What's the craic with getting into the pit for the King's Hall ladS?
Quote from: ONeill on July 18, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
Springsteen fans are very passionate/fanatical towards the man and his music. I have spoken to a right few over the last month and it's almost cultish. Nothing wrong with that by the way.
Took myself and Mrs. Murphy to Thomond last Tuesday night. Both Springsteen-virgins. On the car down to Limerick we listen to a good few albums that I had downloaded.
Both were umimpressed and concerned as to having to listen to 3hours plus of same.
However, have to say really enjoyed the show and music comes across much better live. We were there for the 3 acoustic numbers at 5.20 so I guess we are die-hard members of the cult now.
Going home next day I listened to Born to Run in the car and still it wouldn't be my bag.
I'm glad I went and it's another box ticked on bucket-list but wouldn't be keen to go again.
Album-wise I'd still be more of a collection man when it comes to Bruce.
Also at 6 yo-yos a pint of Cider (or Cidre as it was) it was hard enough to get to the Jim Morisson level.........
/Jim.
Is there any decent places to park up at the Kings Hall? I hope to get there early but not sure about parking.
am going to park on the other side of the lisburn rd at osbourne park as i be coming in that direction, Boss better produce the goods the nite, first derry game am missing in 3yrs, damn them qualifiers!!
To be honest I just listen to The Essential compilation album and that track he did for The Wrestler and I'm grand.
Maybe I'll mature towards his albums in my more vintaged years. No offence or anything, gramps.
Quote from: Syferus on July 20, 2013, 11:33:40 PM
To be honest I just listen to The Essential compilation album and that track he did for The Wrestler and I'm grand.
Maybe I'll mature towards his albums in my more vintaged years. No offence or anything, gramps.
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Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 20, 2013, 11:41:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 20, 2013, 11:33:40 PM
To be honest I just listen to The Essential compilation album and that track he did for The Wrestler and I'm grand.
Maybe I'll mature towards his albums in my more vintaged years. No offence or anything, gramps.
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I don't get the big hype around Brucey and these gigs. A few decent hits in the 80s, but he has done nothing in probably 20 years. And when did everyone suddenly become his biggest fan?!
Fantastic concert (despite having to wait in line at bar.from 6.45 to 8.15)
10 out of 10 my son, great concert, if u been there at 6.15, it took 15mins for the bar
lol
I was in at 6 and got served in 10-15 mins , next time was a different story, first time I had saw him in concert and wasn'tdisappointed
1st Time too, Newbridge exile, should u not been at the Derry game the nite like myself lol
'The Boss' is not in the same league as Neil Young - Just saying.
Quote from: michaelg on July 21, 2013, 01:36:44 AM
'The Boss' is not in the same league as Neil Young - Just saying.
Neil Young was shite in the RDS last month.
Absolutely loved it. Disappointed not to hear Jungleland but there were some absolute tests in there, Nebraska in particular.
Bar facilities a complete joke. Won't be back.
Certainly the best gig of the week last night and one of the best Springsteen gigs I was ever at. A great night all together. Even my long walk home after didn't spoil it for me.
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2013, 06:27:50 AM
Quote from: michaelg on July 21, 2013, 01:36:44 AM
'The Boss' is not in the same league as Neil Young - Just saying.
Neil Young was shite in the RDS last month.
Absolutely loved it. Disappointed not to hear Jungleland but there were some absolute tests in there, Nebraska in particular.
From reviews I read, sounded like the RDS was a shite venue. Also, weather wasn't great too. Saw Neil Young 2 days before in Glasgow and he was first class.
Quote from: michaelg on July 21, 2013, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2013, 06:27:50 AM
Quote from: michaelg on July 21, 2013, 01:36:44 AM
'The Boss' is not in the same league as Neil Young - Just saying.
Neil Young was shite in the RDS last month.
Absolutely loved it. Disappointed not to hear Jungleland but there were some absolute tests in there, Nebraska in particular.
From reviews I read, sounded like the RDS was a shite venue. Also, weather wasn't great too. Saw Neil Young 2 days before in Glasgow and he was first class.
I think the problem with the Neil Young concert was people went along expecting a "greatest hits" playlist and he played songs that some of them hadn't heard of.
Springsteen laughing this mornin.
Quote from: michaelg on July 21, 2013, 01:36:44 AM
'The Boss' is not in the same league as Neil Young - Just saying.
What are you, 12?
I love Neil Young too, but rating live performers is not an exercise in scientific objectivity.
Quote from: Minder on July 21, 2013, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: michaelg on July 21, 2013, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2013, 06:27:50 AM
Quote from: michaelg on July 21, 2013, 01:36:44 AM
'The Boss' is not in the same league as Neil Young - Just saying.
Neil Young was shite in the RDS last month.
Absolutely loved it. Disappointed not to hear Jungleland but there were some absolute tests in there, Nebraska in particular.
From reviews I read, sounded like the RDS was a shite venue. Also, weather wasn't great too. Saw Neil Young 2 days before in Glasgow and he was first class.
I think the problem with the Neil Young concert was people went along expecting a "greatest hits" playlist and he played songs that some of them hadn't heard of.
Nah, it was the fact that Neil Young basically gave the crowd the finger and had a jam with his mates. Ten minute outros to every song etc.
Did he have anything to say about the current malaise in county hurling and football? Not even a "Mon a Saffrons"?
Quote from: J70 on July 21, 2013, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: michaelg on July 21, 2013, 01:36:44 AM
'The Boss' is not in the same league as Neil Young - Just saying.
What are you, 12?
I love Neil Young too, but rating live performers is not an exercise in scientific objectivity.
Fair point, well made. Have just never really got into Springsteen's music.
Bar set up was the worst I have ever experienced. Saw Springsteen in Dublin and could get served in 15min. Mising Up to an hour and a half is a joke when you have paid near 80quid.
Complete joke and won't be back.
Sound was sh!te and all.
Bruce was was excellent tbf.
G lads u didnt need a drink that bad, u there for the music or the session?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 21, 2013, 03:51:15 PM
G lads u didnt need a drink that bad, u there for the music or the session?
Both
Quote from: BennyCake on July 21, 2013, 12:27:49 AM
I don't get the big hype around Brucey and these gigs. A few decent hits in the 80s, but he has done nothing in probably 20 years. And when did everyone suddenly become his biggest fan?!
Heresy
Quote from: michaelg on July 21, 2013, 01:36:44 AM
'The Boss' is not in the same league as Neil Young - Just saying.
I'm a big fan of both and I have to disagree, different types of performer and both deliver. Last night delivered, The river, Thunder Road and Fade Away. The River and Nebraska my fave albums featured well. Ruined slightly by some drunken women fro Tyrone who talked through any song the didn't know, which was a majority. Broooooooooce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I haven't seen so many ruarts in one place since I left St. Pat's in the 80s. Great show, but bar was shocking. Got my first pint two minutes into Thunder Road.
Sound were i was was great, say 25m from the stage, but looking at some clips on you-tube there from middle to back of the crowd and the sound seemed to be fairly poor, distorted
I was in the centre of pit and thought sound was excellent - much better than the RDS last year. Don't drink at gigs but heard similar complaints as echoed on here by many around me.
Nebraska was apparently the first time it's been played at an E Street show since 1985. Was looking forward to the full Born to Run album as he did that in Limerick apparently but still a fantastic show. Might snoop around for some tickets for Nowlan Park.
Quote from: BennyCake on July 21, 2013, 12:27:49 AM
A few decent hits in the 80s, but he has done nothing in probably 20 years.
His latest album. Brilliant from start to finish.
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2013, 11:02:45 PM
I was in the centre of pit and thought sound was excellent - much better than the RDS last year. Don't drink at gigs but heard similar complaints as echoed on here by many around me.
Nebraska was apparently the first time it's been played at an E Street show since 1985. Was looking forward to the full Born to Run album as he did that in Limerick apparently but still a fantastic show. Might snoop around for some tickets for Nowlan Park.
The full Born To Run album was probably a little too much to hope for after he played it so recently, but I was delighted with the setlist. Darlington County, Nebraska, Atlantic City and Bobby Jean were real highlights for me.
Quote from: mb80b60 on July 22, 2013, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2013, 11:02:45 PM
I was in the centre of pit and thought sound was excellent - much better than the RDS last year. Don't drink at gigs but heard similar complaints as echoed on here by many around me.
Nebraska was apparently the first time it's been played at an E Street show since 1985. Was looking forward to the full Born to Run album as he did that in Limerick apparently but still a fantastic show. Might snoop around for some tickets for Nowlan Park.
The full Born To Run album was probably a little too much to hope for after he played it so recently, but I was delighted with the setlist. Darlington County, Nebraska, Atlantic City and Bobby Jean were real highlights for me.
True. Was more than happy with the increased representation from Nebraska and The River to make up for it. Really missed out on Jungleland though as I'm still yet to hear it live.
Prove It All Night with the '78 intro was incredible. Nils Lofgren's solo was absolutely insane and he was fairly able to move for someone who's had a total hip replacement.
Don't know if it was just because of the big screen in this year's setup but there seemed to be a large number of cameras at the gig. Recording for a live DVD perhaps?
Quote from: Nally Stand on July 21, 2013, 11:42:19 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 21, 2013, 12:27:49 AM
A few decent hits in the 80s, but he has done nothing in probably 20 years.
His latest album. Brilliant from start to finish.
As was The Rising, which was scandalously beaten to best album at the Grammy's by Norah Jones.
Quote from: gallsman on July 22, 2013, 03:51:16 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on July 22, 2013, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 21, 2013, 11:02:45 PM
I was in the centre of pit and thought sound was excellent - much better than the RDS last year. Don't drink at gigs but heard similar complaints as echoed on here by many around me.
Nebraska was apparently the first time it's been played at an E Street show since 1985. Was looking forward to the full Born to Run album as he did that in Limerick apparently but still a fantastic show. Might snoop around for some tickets for Nowlan Park.
The full Born To Run album was probably a little too much to hope for after he played it so recently, but I was delighted with the setlist. Darlington County, Nebraska, Atlantic City and Bobby Jean were real highlights for me.
True. Was more than happy with the increased representation from Nebraska and The River to make up for it. Really missed out on Jungleland though as I'm still yet to hear it live.
Prove It All Night with the '78 intro was incredible. Nils Lofgren's solo was absolutely insane and he was fairly able to move for someone who's had a total hip replacement.
Don't know if it was just because of the big screen in this year's setup but there seemed to be a large number of cameras at the gig. Recording for a live DVD perhaps?
Yeah, I noted on the number of cameras too. I was lucky enough to hear Jungleland once at RDS in July 09. An absolutely epic story, and I'm not sure why he doesn't play it more often.
Nils Lofgren was in fine form alright. Cindy Mizelle stole the show at times, what a singer!! Jake Clemons is doing his uncle justice too.
Quote from: mb80b60 on July 22, 2013, 04:23:48 PM
Nils Lofgren was in fine form alright. Cindy Mizelle stole the show at times, what a singer!! Jake Clemons is doing his uncle justice too.
I never got to see Clarence live in his prime - close to the end he was really struggling. Blasphemous though it may be, Jake playing live is an upgrade on what Clarence had to offer by the end.
Jake really appears to have grown into his role in the year since the RDS show where he seemed unsure of himself and was still learning many of the songs. Far more confident, far more an on stage leader on Saturday. Thought he was fantastic.
Quote from: gallsman on July 22, 2013, 04:19:35 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on July 21, 2013, 11:42:19 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 21, 2013, 12:27:49 AM
A few decent hits in the 80s, but he has done nothing in probably 20 years.
His latest album. Brilliant from start to finish.
As was The Rising, which was scandalously beaten to best album at the Grammy's by Norah Jones.
Personally, I think Magic is his best album of the second E Street era. The Rising is superb as well, as you say. Don't like the latest one as much.
Quote from: gallsman on July 22, 2013, 04:32:27 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on July 22, 2013, 04:23:48 PM
Nils Lofgren was in fine form alright. Cindy Mizelle stole the show at times, what a singer!! Jake Clemons is doing his uncle justice too.
I never got to see Clarence live in his prime - close to the end he was really struggling. Blasphemous though it may be, Jake playing live is an upgrade on what Clarence had to offer by the end.
Jake really appears to have grown into his role in the year since the RDS show where he seemed unsure of himself and was still learning many of the songs. Far more confident, far more an on stage leader on Saturday. Thought he was fantastic.
Jake is great, but Blasphemous doesnt even begin to cover that statement.
:)
Quote from: fearglasmor on July 22, 2013, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 22, 2013, 04:32:27 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on July 22, 2013, 04:23:48 PM
Nils Lofgren was in fine form alright. Cindy Mizelle stole the show at times, what a singer!! Jake Clemons is doing his uncle justice too.
I never got to see Clarence live in his prime - close to the end he was really struggling. Blasphemous though it may be, Jake playing live is an upgrade on what Clarence had to offer by the end.
Jake really appears to have grown into his role in the year since the RDS show where he seemed unsure of himself and was still learning many of the songs. Far more confident, far more an on stage leader on Saturday. Thought he was fantastic.
Jake is great, but Blasphemous doesnt even begin to cover that statement.
:)
Blasphemous yes, but sadly true. Clarence was a shell of his former self by the end.
The Rising was the last great Album Bruce made, Devils & Dust and the Seeger Sessions were close to Greatness but just a song short. The last three whilst having great songs would be consider great for your average rock star, but Bruce is not just your average rock star he is much more than that. It never fails to amaze me though how most people at Bruce concerts fail to understand the total meaning of Waiting on a Sunny Day, I suppose a bit like Reagan and Born in the USA.
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 23, 2013, 09:42:48 AM
The Rising was the last great Album Bruce made, Devils & Dust and the Seeger Sessions were close to Greatness but just a song short. The last three whilst having great songs would be consider great for your average rock star, but Bruce is not just your average rock star he is much more than that. It never fails to amaze me though how most people at Bruce concerts fail to understand the total meaning of Waiting on a Sunny Day, I suppose a bit like Reagan and Born in the USA.
I agree with Nally Stand, I think Wrecking Ball is excellent from start to finish. The Rising in my opinion is up there with any of his classics, an astoundingly good album. What's particularly remarkable is that 40 years on from Greetings From Asbury Park, he's still exploring new influences and incorporating them into his songs. Rocky Ground off is an R 'n' B song and is absolutely brilliant in my opinion. Wasn't overly fussed with Magic but liked a few songs and doubt I'll ever listen to Working on a Dream again.
The thing about Springsteen these days though is that when touring, he'll play three or four songs from the current album (maybe more if it's laden with catchy sing-a-long anthems like Wrecking Ball) and then he has another 2.5 hours to blast through the back catalog and ensure everyone leaves happy, even if he doesn't play that one song they really wanted to hear.
Have been listening to Prove It All Night '78 on YouTube a lot since Saturday. Spine tingling!
Looks like an 8 year old kid trumped the lot of you, when the multimillionaire, in another stunt, pulled her up on stage on Saturday night, to sing a few lines. Bet you were all saying, as you queued up for a pint, it should have been me!
If precedent is anything to go by, this kid will get a starring role in a cult US comedy tv series!
Quote from: T Fearon on July 23, 2013, 10:36:25 AM
Looks like an 8 year old kid trumped the lot of you, when the multimillionaire, in another stunt, pulled her up on stage on Saturday night, to sing a few lines. Bet you were all saying, as you queued up for a pint, it should have been me!
If precedent is anything to go by, this kid will get a starring role in a cult US comedy tv series!
Tony is there not some soccer thread that you should be sharing your knowledge on?
Hardstation thanks for the parking advice, I parked on Stockmans Lane, great for a quick get away.
Nebraska was the high point for me, a great night. A mighty show!
I paid €35 to see the Leinster Final lasting 70mins + say 5 = €0.47/min
I paid €90 to see Bruce and the band lasting about 220 mins = €0.41/min
Bruce is better value for money.
And don't mention the minor match because Bruce doesn't have support acts that I have no interest in.
Except this weekend of course but I am looking forward to seeing Damien Dempsey and Imelda May, could live without Glen "I can Shout loud" Hansard.
Quote from: fearglasmor on July 26, 2013, 10:58:34 AM
I paid €35 to see the Leinster Final lasting 70mins + say 5 = €0.47/min
I paid €90 to see Bruce and the band lasting about 220 mins = €0.41/min
I paid €0 to see Tramore and Bonmahon knock lumps out of each other for three minutes before the ref abandoned the game = €0.00/min. Dublin, Meath
and The Boss can swivel on it!
What delusional saddo went to Nowlan Park on Sunday, got right up to the front and among all the imaginative requests for rare and obscure songs for the band to play they held up a sign reading "Roscommon for Sam 2014"
F.F.S.
My favourite was the guy wearing a suit and tie made from material printed completely with TV test cards. Pity he didn't get his song played. Deserved it for wearing that for the day.
Saw the Mayo4Sam sign on Saturday as well. Same bunch of lads caused havoc on our campsite on Friday night - I hope the curse of 51 lasts for another 50 years ;)
Anyway I really enjoyed sat show. 3 support acts were excellent. You don't have to really like their stuff to appreciate the joy and effort each of them put in. Nice duet of the Auld Triangle as well by Damo and Hansard.
I thought Bruce was in good form on Sat though some of the more obsessive fans around me were so disappointed that they left when he announced he was going to play the whole BITUSA album - probably to queue for Sunday show though.
Anyway rockin entertainment, Kitzch , messing, beautiful renditions of the river and thunder road and a spectacular duet with Hansard meant this lad went home happy and the young fella got to touch the hand as he walked by so all in all a great weekend.
Wouldn't be in the same league as the fans that travel all over to his shows but had been to Munich where he played BITUSA as well. Still wouldn't piss me off enough to leave. There was lots more when that was done.
Don't like Glen Hansard, cant understand why he has to end up shouting in everything he sings, especially when he doesn't need to. But he did an excellent job on the duet.
Imelda May is a class act. While Glen Hansard was slipping in and out between Dublin and American accents there was no doubting where Imeldas from. Even when she said thank you to the crowd it sounded a little bit inner city threating. Like she should have followed it up with an "alright"
And Delorentos were surprisingly good too.
Two great days.
I was kinda raging I missed Sunday alright but had a good days entertainment in Semple anyway. Yeah Hansard surprised me on the duet
http://youtu.be/dElsEEk1k7g (http://youtu.be/dElsEEk1k7g).
Re the accent thing
I loved Damo's deadly audience comments as well
I suppose Bruce is already home in his New Jersey ranch, counting the millions and forgetting all about the oppressed and downtrodden until the next new album/tour?
Bit harsh Tony. Shur, you could say that about any touring acts.
Bon Jovi in Slane "HELLO DUBLIN" >:(
No - I wasn't there.
Quote from: T Fearon on July 29, 2013, 02:08:23 PM
I suppose Bruce is already home in his New Jersey ranch, counting the millions and forgetting all about the oppressed and downtrodden until the next new album/tour?
You should have come along for the opening song both nights and then left before you got offended by the hypocrisy. Or maybe you might have enjoyed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ6SAryPyQk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ6SAryPyQk)
SS, I agree. But the other multi millionaire artists dont feign concern or compassion for the oppressed.
I suppose Tony it's hard for any rock star to on one hand express concern for the poor and oppressed and then on the other hand look at their lifestyle and wealth.
Bonzo is a prime example.
Lennon as well espoused happy clappy trippy shite yet had huge wealth, pedigree cows and even owned part of Mayo for a while (but then got sense when he realised he'd never welcome Sam). Chapman decided he had enough and the rest is history.
So it is a dilemma, I agree. Perhaps Bruce should have done a Harry Enfield and started waving dosh to the starving proles of Kilkenny.
Or maybe he should just record music, make millions, and not pretend he cares. Scrap the hypocrisy.
On a coincidental note, I was speaking to a journalist today, who dined with Bruce last week in the Culloden. Top bloke, according to her.
well what was he like last 2 nights in Kilkenny? anybody from the belfast gig go down to it?
For all Springsteen fans, Sky Arts 1 at 9pm on December 28th.
Springsteen & I
Baillie Walsh's documentary explores the life and career of American singer-songwriter Bruce Springsteen through interviews with fans whose lives have been deeply affected by his music. Including the stories of an Elvis impersonator who was invited on stage in Philadelphia, and a Geordie woman who was plucked from a Hyde Park crowd to shimmy with her idol during Dancing in the Dark. Featuring foot...
Watched bits of it when it came out and I wasn't too impressed. I love Springsteen's music. Only other band currently close for me would be Arcade Fire, but who the hell needs to watch a film featuring women gushing about being brought up on stage for Dancing in the Dark or 50 year old men bursting into tears because they're so overcome by how much his music has meant to them? The odd story was interesting like the Danish busker, but overall I wouldn't be too bothered about listening to emotional confessionala about the time some Bruce song helped someone through some experience or other.
But, I only watched parts, so maybe it wasn't ALL bad!
here is the Boss in OZ doing some AC/DC
https://music.yahoo.com/news/bruce-springsteen-covers-ac-dc-in-australia--video-222854073.html?cache=clear
Excellent. Went to see him on Friday night - my first time seeing Bruce live - and was sooo impressed.
Every aspect of his performance was so good, and he played for over 3 hours without a break.
Great nite (no AC/DC tho :-[)
Springsteen and the E Street Band confirmed as bringing The River Tour to Croke Park on May 27th.
Yep - all systems go for Croker in MAy
:) :D ;D 8) happy days!!
Quote from: gallsman on February 04, 2016, 08:56:33 AM
Springsteen and the E Street Band confirmed as bringing The River Tour to Croke Park on May 27th.
Send the Dubs to Kilkenny to play Laois or Wicklow and fill Croke park with a Springsteen concert. Perfect planning.
That is good planning. There'll be a hell of a lot more at Springsteen than a massacre v Wicklow or Laois.
Seen him in London a few times but thinking of heading back to see him in croker. Sister tells me that you can't drink on the field though? Tell me she's got it all wrong please as I'd want standing tickets but close to 4hrs without a beer would be hard going.
You can drink beer on the field as far as I know - no wine allowed though!
Heard tickets are 98.50 for standing and range from 65-131 for seating. Quite a hike from the last time.
Quote from: gallsman on February 04, 2016, 08:20:16 PM
Heard tickets are 98.50 for standing and range from 65-131 for seating. Quite a hike from the last time.
Very pricey. Are those prices with or without the booking fee?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 04, 2016, 08:36:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 04, 2016, 08:20:16 PM
Heard tickets are 98.50 for standing and range from 65-131 for seating. Quite a hike from the last time.
Very pricey. Are those prices with or without the booking fee?
Without I think. Think ours 6.50 a ticket these days :o
Boss - Croker
I take it that in Euro?
Yes.
Quote from: WT4E on February 04, 2016, 05:57:00 PM
You can drink beer on the field as far as I know - no wine allowed though!
That's what the women's handbags are for. Just make sure if ye end up in dicey's don't sl*t drop, or a lovely wee indian fella will kindly call security and escort you out.
Tickets sorted handy enough. Looking forward to it now
bit of a joke
went on at 9
told in a queue for 45 minutes
then at 9.26 tols all tickets sold
Ffs Armagh playing on the Sunday 😢
I see Sunday tickets available now - was it even announced?
Quote from: David McKeown on February 11, 2016, 09:23:42 AM
Tickets sorted handy enough. Looking forward to it now
+1. Happy days.
Quote from: WT4E on February 11, 2016, 09:39:47 AM
I see Sunday tickets available now - was it even announced?
Yes.
Quote from: mackers on February 11, 2016, 09:40:35 AM
Quote from: WT4E on February 11, 2016, 09:39:47 AM
I see Sunday tickets available now - was it even announced?
Yes.
Was widely rumoured and expected but don't think there was a formal announcement? They just put the tickets on sale.
Second date announced at 9.31am . Sorted for the Friday so can still get to see the Hurling :) :)
Got four tickets for the Sunday. Two standing, two seated in 305 in the Cusack, row FF. Exactly as I wanted. None of them for me as buying for others. Gven the speed of sales for both dates, I imagine the touts will have an absolute field day.
Spent ages online this morning and got timed out for both nights! Gutted!
Missed Friday but had option for Sunday but it didn't suit due to work commitments - €275 euros bit on the rich side for a pair of concert tickets though (granted he plays for 3 hours)
Quote from: gallsman on February 11, 2016, 10:52:27 AM
Got four tickets for the Sunday. Two standing, two seated in 305 in the Cusack, row FF. Exactly as I wanted. None of them for me as buying for others. Gven the speed of sales for both dates, I imagine the touts will have an absolute field day.
Where do the touts flout them online?
Quote from: whiskeysteve on February 11, 2016, 02:35:46 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 11, 2016, 10:52:27 AM
Got four tickets for the Sunday. Two standing, two seated in 305 in the Cusack, row FF. Exactly as I wanted. None of them for me as buying for others. Gven the speed of sales for both dates, I imagine the touts will have an absolute field day.
Where do the touts flout them online?
Gumtree etc. Ticketmaster have their own "resale" site called seatwave where it's apparently OK to sell on at more then face value.
Lads, I've a couple of spare standing tickets for Sunday 29th if anyone knows anybody looking a couple. Face value, so about €210
I'm in Dublin but can get yous sorted in Belfast or thereabouts if needed!
I managed to pick up 2 tix for the Fri night a few weeks ago but in searching for an hotel, a taxi back to Belfast would be cheaper! :/
Anyone got an hotel booked at a reasonable rate but now not going?
Quote from: StGallsGAA on April 10, 2016, 12:51:31 PM
I managed to pick up 2 tix for the Fri night a few weeks ago but in searching for an hotel, a taxi back to Belfast would be cheaper! :/
Anyone got an hotel booked at a reasonable rate but now not going?
Have you tried Airbnb? Could pick up a cancellation from there! Prices of hotels skyrocketed after the announcement of the Friday concert.
alot of ones booked accommodation before tickets went on sale
Do you get hotel rooms on AirBnB as well as private rooms in houses?
Quote from: Over the Bar on April 10, 2016, 10:19:27 PM
Do you get hotel rooms on AirBnB as well as private rooms in houses?
No hotel rooms on it as far I'm aware, just people offering up their entire home/flat or a room.
There's more tickets being released on Thursday from ticketmaster if anyone still is looking for some, for both Friday and Sunday gigs
Was privileged to be in Brooklyn last night to see him open with Purple Rain. Fantastic show and he's still the boss as far as live performances go
Quote from: Declan on April 24, 2016, 06:43:55 PM
Was privileged to be in Brooklyn last night to see him open with Purple Rain. Fantastic show and he's still the boss as far as live performances go
https://www.yahoo.com/music/bruce-springsteen-covered-prince-purple-230100405.html
I have 2 x Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band
Croke Park, Dublin,
Sun 29 May 2016, 19:00 Seat location: section UPP717, row E
wanting to swap for 2 Friday tickets if anyone is interested?
On TG4 May 21, stuff you may have seen before, but what the hell.
An inside look at the creation of Bruce Springsteen's groundbreaking album, The River and features previously unreleased archival footage from The River Tour.
Good gig tonight in Barcelona. Didn't start until about 9.15 and played on to five to one! Jake is really becoming a star in these shows. His stage presence is magnificent.
Been dying to hear My Love Will Not Let You Down and I'm Going Down live for years so to have them come out so early was an absolute treat. Still played Purple Rain which was nice.
Still haven't managed to hear Jungleland live :(
I've seen Bruce and the ESB countless times and I've yet to hear I'm Going Down live, in my top five too. Barcelona must be some spot for a concert, especially this time of year?
Ha, the heavens opened for about an hour as we started moving in after a day queuing in gorgeous sun.
Was a great gig but don't think any different (better or worse) to other massive outdoor stadium shows as you'll never get top notch sound quality. So while pretty cool to be on the pitch at Camp Nou, it may as well have been the RDS.
You wouldn't get this at home though!
(http://s32.postimg.org/gdwn6fxit/IMG_20160514_211343.jpg)
Dunno so much, you're doing it?? ;)
All, I have two good seated tickets for Bruce on the Friday night; would be interested in exchanging them for two tickets for Ireland v Belgium on 18th June.If interested PM me.
I have a premium level ticket in the Cusack Stand for Sunday's concert. Can I get in through the Jones Road entrance or do I have to walk around the outside of the stadium to the Cusack Stand side?
Quote from: Disillusioned on May 24, 2016, 02:07:12 PM
I have a premium level ticket in the Cusack Stand for Sunday's concert. Can I get in through the Jones Road entrance or do I have to walk around the outside of the stadium to the Cusack Stand side?
Ticketmaster sent out an email yesterday detailing which routes to take depending on where you are seated/standing and all ticketholders for the Cusack Stand have to enter from St James's Ave and Foster Terrace.
They have also said that those people who try to queue before the gates open at 5 will be turned away. That will lead to almighty scrum at 5 you'd imagine.
Quote from: mackers on May 24, 2016, 02:13:02 PM
Quote from: Disillusioned on May 24, 2016, 02:07:12 PM
I have a premium level ticket in the Cusack Stand for Sunday's concert. Can I get in through the Jones Road entrance or do I have to walk around the outside of the stadium to the Cusack Stand side?
Ticketmaster sent out an email yesterday detailing which routes to take depending on where you are seated/standing and all ticketholders for the Cusack Stand have to enter from St James's Ave and Foster Terrace.
They have also said that those people who try to queue before the gates open at 5 will be turned away. That will lead to almighty scrum at 5 you'd imagine.
For any matches in Croke Park a premium level ticket gains you access at whatever side you like and you just walk around through the Premium level itself. I'd imagine concerts are the same but have no definitive proof..
I've a spare GA ticket for pitch for Friday as someone pulled out last minute - PM me if interested Face value
I am surprised Bruce is playing as there will nit be one transgender toilet at the facility.
Some lad got up in a Santa outfit in Manchester tonight and he played Santa Claus is coming to town :) :) :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=IM8PnT6DS4U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=IM8PnT6DS4U)
Quote from: stew on May 25, 2016, 11:57:15 AM
I am surprised Bruce is playing as there will nit be one transgender toilet at the facility.
He's a total hypocrite.
Will Croker have them in place in time for when Mayo arrive for their customary defeat?
Plenty of ladymen around that day.
Quote from: Declan on May 25, 2016, 08:52:15 PM
Some lad got up in a Santa outfit in Manchester tonight and he played Santa Claus is coming to town :) :) :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=IM8PnT6DS4U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=IM8PnT6DS4U)
There's gonna be some amount of pricks this weekend in Santa outfits at HQ after that.
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 25, 2016, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: Declan on May 25, 2016, 08:52:15 PM
Some lad got up in a Santa outfit in Manchester tonight and he played Santa Claus is coming to town :) :) :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=IM8PnT6DS4U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=IM8PnT6DS4U)
There's gonna be some amount of pricks this weekend in Santa outfits at HQ after that.
and ones not in santa costumes as well.
Quote from: stew on May 25, 2016, 11:57:15 AM
I am surprised Bruce is playing as there will nit be one transgender toilet at the facility.
Given that transgender people in Ireland can legally change their gender and Ireland, unlike North Carolina, has no law dictating that they have to use the toilet of their birth gender (along with all the other discriminatory nonsense NC put into that bill), what exactly should Springsteen's problem be?
Quote from: foxcommander on May 25, 2016, 09:03:21 PM
Quote from: stew on May 25, 2016, 11:57:15 AM
I am surprised Bruce is playing as there will nit be one transgender toilet at the facility.
He's a total hypocrite.
Quite possibly he is, but how so in this case?
I know it's a long shot but wondering if anyone has a spare premium level ticket for tomorrow night I could buy?
Was at gig last night. Sound wasn't great in the premium so moved to back of Upper Davin. Deadly from there. .
Quote from: under the bar on May 28, 2016, 09:51:27 AM
Was at gig last night. Sound wasn't great in the premium so moved to back of Upper Davin. Deadly from there. .
A friend there last night said sound wasn't great either and she was in Davin. Said there was a serious lag on the transmitted sound.
I think some of his songs are awful sad now given what has happened to the working class in the US over the last 30 yrs. The guy in born to run in real life would be dead by now , in his 50s.
Decent set list - Jungleland, Saint in the City, Lost in the Flood all on the same night
sound was poor in premium for 1st hour or so. Seemed to be okay that though
Thought sound very poor where I was sitting in cusack premium
I was in the pit....thought the sound was ropey up until No Surrender.....after that it was spot on. Absolutely outstanding show....the man is a living legend!
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2016, 11:59:17 AM
I think some of his songs are awful sad now given what has happened to the working class in the US over the last 30 yrs. The guy in born to run in real life would be dead by now , in his 50s.
You REALLY, REALLY need to cheer up.
QuoteWas at gig last night. Sound wasn't great in the premium so moved to back of Upper Davin. Deadly from there. .
A friend there last night said sound wasn't great either and she was in Davin. Said there was a serious lag on the transmitted sound
The transmitted sound?? As opposed to...? WTF other type of sound is there at a stadium gig?
QuoteA friend there last night said sound wasn't great either and she was in Davin. Said there was a serious lag on the transmitted sound
The transmitted sound?? As opposed to...? WTF other type of sound is there at a stadium gig?
Presumably he/she means the screens and sound not being in sync as sound travels slower than vision? Anyone who goes to a gig and complains about that deserves a kick up the hole.
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2016, 11:59:17 AM
I think some of his songs are awful sad now given what has happened to the working class in the US over the last 30 yrs. The guy in born to run in real life would be dead by now , in his 50s.
You must be one very sad individual if you didn't think that was good. I've seen 7/8 shows now over 25 years and that was his best yet. Absolutely spellbinding show.
Quote from: INDIANA on May 28, 2016, 08:04:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2016, 11:59:17 AM
I think some of his songs are awful sad now given what has happened to the working class in the US over the last 30 yrs. The guy in born to run in real life would be dead by now , in his 50s.
You must be one very sad individual if you didn't think that was good. I've seen 7/8 shows now over 25 years and that was his best yet. Absolutely spellbinding show.
I saw him.in Zurich a few years ago. He is very good.
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I think some of his songs are awful sad now given what has happened to the working class in the US over the last 30 yrs. The guy in born to run in real life would be dead by now , in his 50s.
You must be one very sad individual if you didn't think that was good. I've seen 7/8 shows now over 25 years and that was his best yet. Absolutely spellbinding show.
Slane '85 was his best for me but last night was a close 2nd from where I was standing. Judging by the number of complaints I heard about the sound in the stands the tour management team may have under-estimated the size of Croker. A lot of his dates on this tour are in arenas or smaller soccer stadiums. I thought the banks of speakers by the stage and the relay stations were as small as I've seen in Croker. I know size doesn't always mean louder but it clearly wasn't up to what's needed for the size of Croke Park.
What time did the gig finish? Bold Bruce is known for going over the alloted time.
He played about 3hrs 20mins. That's some value for your money!
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
What time did the gig finish? Bold Bruce is known for going over the alloted time.
started at 7.16 and finished at 10.53
Did he play Born in the USA last night?
Quote from: longballin on May 28, 2016, 09:11:31 PM
Did he play Born in the USA last night?
No so its guaranteed tomorrow I'd say. Didn't play Glory Days either
Bobby Jean was a strange one to end on I thought?
Quote from: INDIANA on May 28, 2016, 09:25:25 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 28, 2016, 09:11:31 PM
Did he play Born in the USA last night?
No so its guaranteed tomorrow I'd say. Didn't play Glory Days either
I heard that... hope he plays it tomorrow.
Quote from: under the bar on May 28, 2016, 08:33:15 PM
He played about 3hrs 20mins. That's some value for your money!
€100 of your money, wasn't it?
Quote from: under the bar on May 28, 2016, 09:32:13 PM
Bobby Jean was a strange one to end on I thought?
He's been using it as a closer quite a lot on this tour.
Stunning set on Friday - Great to hear some of the old stuff and our Jungleland sign featured prominently on the screen!!!
Looking forward to tonight now
Strange set on Friday I thought. Thoroughly enjoyed it mind but had a lot more of the rarer songs than I would have heard previously. Anyway role on tonight. Even getting my car broken into last night hasn't put me off.
Very jealous of it's hard to be a saint in the city, jungleland and spirit in the night.
Was a bit surprised at his rendition of the Broad Black Brimmer. For the year that's in it I suppose!!
Apparently Bono made appearance tonight, that won't go down too well with some on here.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2016, 11:06:44 PM
Apparently Bono made appearance tonight, that won't go down too well with some on here.
Thank God I missed that twat. When I pay money to see Bruce Springsteen- I want to him sing the songs- not some self absorbed twat like Bono looking for free publicity and ruining a perfectly good song to go with it!
A stunning start to last nights gig with that solo rarity on Incident so for me that was enough and I just enjoyed the rest of the show for what it was. Actually thought the Bono duet was good!!
Still the boss
Quote from: INDIANA on May 29, 2016, 11:08:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2016, 11:06:44 PM
Apparently Bono made appearance tonight, that won't go down too well with some on here.
Thank God I missed that twat. When I pay money to see Bruce Springsteen- I want to him sing the songs- not some self absorbed twat like Bono looking for free publicity and ruining a perfectly good song to go with it!
Beyoncé has already applied for the restraining order to keep Bono out of Croke Park in July.
Quote from: Declan on May 30, 2016, 11:28:48 AM
A stunning start to last nights gig with that solo rarity on Incident so for me that was enough and I just enjoyed the rest of the show for what it was. Actually thought the Bono duet was good!!
Still the boss
Indeed he is. This was first time seeing him in Ireland and I was a bit dubious about it being in Croke Park but I needn't have been. Fantastic show.
Quote from: ziggy90 on May 30, 2016, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: Declan on May 30, 2016, 11:28:48 AM
A stunning start to last nights gig with that solo rarity on Incident so for me that was enough and I just enjoyed the rest of the show for what it was. Actually thought the Bono duet was good!!
Still the boss
Indeed he is. This was first time seeing him in Ireland and I was a bit dubious about it being in Croke Park but I needn't have been. Fantastic show.
Great show.
The duet with Bono was great as well, so f**k the begrudgers.
He ended a bit earlier than I expected but I thought his voice was gone at that stage. In fairness to him he always gives it everything.
Quote from: INDIANA on May 29, 2016, 11:08:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 29, 2016, 11:06:44 PM
Apparently Bono made appearance tonight, that won't go down too well with some on here.
Thank God I missed that twat. When I pay money to see Bruce Springsteen- I want to him sing the songs- not some self absorbed twat like Bono looking for free publicity and ruining a perfectly good song to go with it!
Usually I'd be the same but to be fair to him Bono was very good last night. Didn't speak, didn't pontificate, just came on sang the song, kept the ego in check then fecked off again. It's what I wish he'd do at U2 gigs.
As for the show it was probably his shortest gig in Ireland that I've been to but it was one of his best. Great job at keeping the energy in the crowd all night but still managed to mix in some rarer songs along the way. A great performance.
No quick ticket sellouts in Belfast or Dublin. Has the Boss priced himself out of it? Was tempted but over a hundred quid to stand in Boucher Road, potentially in pishing rain, wasn't appealing. Too old for that shit.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 07, 2023, 08:29:21 PMNo quick ticket sellouts in Belfast or Dublin. Has the Boss priced himself out of it? Was tempted but over a hundred quid to stand in Boucher Road, potentially in pishing rain, wasn't appealing. Too old for that shit.
Yeah, basically over £100 to stand in a field.
Aye I love sprinsteen and saw him once, in 2009 and it was class. *0 quid was steep then, 120 is just too much. Even the belfast gig will be 300 quid for the two of us and thats bussing it.
A lot of people have already paid crazy money for Coldplay and Taylor Swift tickets earlier this year. I'd say there wouldn't be much money left at this stage to pay for Bruce too.
Quote from: clarshack on November 07, 2023, 09:32:46 PMA lot of people have already paid crazy money for Coldplay and Taylor Swift tickets earlier this year. I'd say there wouldn't be much money left at this stage to pay for Bruce too.
I'd say this is the bottom line.
There's wealth in Ireland. But there's probably not enough chimney pots to keep this bandwagon rolling.
Count yourselves lucky youse aren't in the eastern US. 120 pounds would be almost nosebleed price. By the time the bots and the opportunists are done, you're lucky to get a half-decent resale ticket (at the last minute when they're dropping in price ) for $400.
And forget about the likes of Taylor Swift or Lizzo or Beyoncé. My daughter is nine and just getting into this stuff. I've half a mind to start saving now so we can afford it when she starts begging to go in three or four years.
Ticket prices are ridiculous. I went for pitch tickets for this gig because there is a limit im prepared to pay. As I was in cusack last time he played and the sound was dreadful. Thinking pitch is cheaper and might get better sound. This will be my last time going to see Bruce at those prices. Also heading to Manics in Trinity and its around 40 euro to see them and suede. Much more reasonable.
Quote from: snoopdog on November 08, 2023, 08:42:44 AMTicket prices are ridiculous. I went for pitch tickets for this gig because there is a limit im prepared to pay. As I was in cusack last time he played and the sound was dreadful. Thinking pitch is cheaper and might get better sound. This will be my last time going to see Bruce at those prices. Also heading to Manics in Trinity and its around 40 euro to see them and suede. Much more reasonable.
If you tolerate this, then your children will be next!
JohnDenver with music pun. Jibbajabba approves
Quote from: clarshack on November 07, 2023, 09:32:46 PMA lot of people have already paid crazy money for Coldplay and Taylor Swift tickets earlier this year. I'd say there wouldn't be much money left at this stage to pay for Bruce too.
I have never seen the boss so said I would go to Boucher, sort of want to see him before either of us dies. Bought two tickets but felt the price was excessive.
Quote from: JohnDenver on November 08, 2023, 08:47:49 AMQuote from: snoopdog on November 08, 2023, 08:42:44 AMTicket prices are ridiculous. I went for pitch tickets for this gig because there is a limit im prepared to pay. As I was in cusack last time he played and the sound was dreadful. Thinking pitch is cheaper and might get better sound. This will be my last time going to see Bruce at those prices. Also heading to Manics in Trinity and its around 40 euro to see them and suede. Much more reasonable.
If you tolerate this, then your children will be next!
;D
Near Double of what he cost in 2014. Be giving it a miss.
Quote from: trailer on November 08, 2023, 09:11:45 AMQuote from: clarshack on November 07, 2023, 09:32:46 PMA lot of people have already paid crazy money for Coldplay and Taylor Swift tickets earlier this year. I'd say there wouldn't be much money left at this stage to pay for Bruce too.
I have never seen the boss so said I would go to Boucher, sort of want to see him before either of us dies. Bought two tickets but felt the price was excessive.
£120? Ive seen him a few times in the past but wont be paying that
Looks sold out now. I was in two minds about it but none on ticketmaster.