All Ireland prelimQFs: Mayo/Derry, Galway/Monaghan, Tyrone/Roscommon, Louth/Cork

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Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 23, 2024, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:12:48 AMWhatever about the foot block and real time there was at least 2 yards between McKinless and Lynch and wearing very different coloured shorts and jersies how can an intercounty referee get the yellow card so wrong
I'd be surprised if he thought Lynch was the foot block. He maybe got it for mouthing.

A foot block is a yellow card offence and he make a gesture to his foot when booking him

This is true. He gave the penalty against Lynch and booked him for a foot block.

So any argument about McKinless is totally irrelevant. Never a penalty in a million years.

Armagh18

As much as I don't like Derry that was never a foot block. Better team won, Mayo shit the bed as per.

Huge ask for Derry to play one of the big boys next week.

Unfortunately leaves us playing a shit team next week so we'll fall to their level and probably go to penalties


yellowcard

Plenty of complaining about a penalty from the team that won the match but very little about the fact that McKaigue scored the equaliser over 1 minute past the 4 added minutes. Then blew the extra time up early before the full time had elapsed.

Mario

Quote from: yellowcard on June 23, 2024, 09:42:24 AMPlenty of complaining about a penalty from the team that won the match but very little about the fact that McKaigue scored the equaliser over 1 minute past the 4 added minutes. Then blew the extra time up early before the full time had elapsed.
Sure there was a man injured for 2 min of normal injury time. Did think blowing it up 10 sec early at end of extra time when Derry had the ball was strange

trueblue1234

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 23, 2024, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 23, 2024, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:12:48 AMWhatever about the foot block and real time there was at least 2 yards between McKinless and Lynch and wearing very different coloured shorts and jersies how can an intercounty referee get the yellow card so wrong
I'd be surprised if he thought Lynch was the foot block. He maybe got it for mouthing.

A foot block is a yellow card offence and he make a gesture to his foot when booking him

This is true. He gave the penalty against Lynch and booked him for a foot block.

So any argument about McKinless is totally irrelevant. Never a penalty in a million years.
Except it was a penalty, even a Derry poster agreed on here, so hardly "never in a million years". You could view it harsh, but to try and claim there was no reason is just nonsense. For me it was definitely a penalty. Tho I know foot blocks are always hotly contested.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 23, 2024, 09:56:15 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 23, 2024, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 23, 2024, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:12:48 AMWhatever about the foot block and real time there was at least 2 yards between McKinless and Lynch and wearing very different coloured shorts and jersies how can an intercounty referee get the yellow card so wrong
I'd be surprised if he thought Lynch was the foot block. He maybe got it for mouthing.

A foot block is a yellow card offence and he make a gesture to his foot when booking him

This is true. He gave the penalty against Lynch and booked him for a foot block.

So any argument about McKinless is totally irrelevant. Never a penalty in a million years.
Except it was a penalty, even a Derry poster agreed on here, so hardly "never in a million years". You could view it harsh, but to try and claim there was no reason is just nonsense. For me it was definitely a penalty. Tho I know foot blocks are always hotly contested.

I can't see where Lynch carried out anything remotely resembling a foot block.

trueblue1234

Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

marty34

Quote from: yellowcard on June 23, 2024, 09:42:24 AMPlenty of complaining about a penalty from the team that won the match but very little about the fact that McKaigue scored the equaliser over 1 minute past the 4 added minutes. Then blew the extra time up early before the full time had elapsed.

I think you ahould watch from 70 mins onwards.

Derryman forever

Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 23, 2024, 09:56:15 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 23, 2024, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 23, 2024, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:12:48 AMWhatever about the foot block and real time there was at least 2 yards between McKinless and Lynch and wearing very different coloured shorts and jersies how can an intercounty referee get the yellow card so wrong
I'd be surprised if he thought Lynch was the foot block. He maybe got it for mouthing.

A foot block is a yellow card offence and he make a gesture to his foot when booking him

This is true. He gave the penalty against Lynch and booked him for a foot block.

So any argument about McKinless is totally irrelevant. Never a penalty in a million years.
Except it was a penalty, even a Derry poster agreed on here, so hardly "never in a million years". You could view it harsh, but to try and claim there was no reason is just nonsense. For me it was definitely a penalty. Tho I know foot blocks are always hotly contested.


It was not a foot block it was not a penalty.
Regardless of one confused Derry supporter.
Even Cawley was confused he didn't see it he guessed and guessed wrong.

Itchy

Quote from: lenny on June 23, 2024, 06:44:59 AMIncredible result for Derry, well done to the players and management. My tupppence worth on the Mayo penalty for a footblock. The referee surely made a bad mistake on this one as the ball doesn't hit Mckinless on the foot. It hits him high up on the back of his leg. Surely for a footblock the ball has to be blocked by the foot. Also the ref came in and booked Lynch which shows that he didn't have a clear view of what happened and therefore he should have consulted his umpires.

This is it. The rule is "foot" block, not leg block. Booking the keeper who had no involvement shows the ref didn't see it clearly. If he didn't see it clearly then he should not be giving it.

The extra time added to injury time at the of 70 minutes was correct as there was an injury.

galwayman

Quote from: yellowcard on June 23, 2024, 09:42:24 AMPlenty of complaining about a penalty from the team that won the match but very little about the fact that McKaigue scored the equaliser over 1 minute past the 4 added minutes. Then blew the extra time up early before the full time had elapsed.
What are you on about - there was a stoppage for an injury during the injury time itself - this is why it is "at least 4 minutes"

GTP

To block or attempt to block with the boot when an opponent is kicking the ball from the hand(s).

McKinless blocked the shot with his leg  not the boot so it should not be a foul. If ref believed Lynch carried out the foot block then he is effectively giving a penalty for a keeper making a save.
It is unlikely the ref will be allowed to explain his decision or clarify what he saw which is all he can go on. If refs could explain 'controversial' decisions the average punters might learn more about the rules and maybe whinge about refs less.

manfromdelmonte

Don't stick your boot or leg in where your hands should go to block a shot.
It's dangerous play and not allowed

Cunny Funt

Another war of attrition win for Galway yesterday very much a trademark under Joyce now. Roscommon with a great win in Omagh against the odds, not the biggest surprise considering they held their own for 65 minutes against Dublin and Mayo only beat them by two points recently and got a lucky penalty.

As for Mayo so close to reaching the last 8 last weekend, reaction of the players and management said it all to that draw. Yesterday again should have won in normal time and that came back to bite. I'll never warm to a penalty shootout to decide a knock out championship game but all the best to Derry.

Finally let's be honest it will be extremely difficult for any of Derry, Roscommon,Galway and Cork/Louth to reach the last 4 with having to play their 3rd match in 14 days and up against a rested team.