All Ireland prelimQFs: Mayo/Derry, Galway/Monaghan, Tyrone/Roscommon, Louth/Cork

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Mario

Quote from: marty34 on June 23, 2024, 08:15:29 AM
Quote from: lenny on June 23, 2024, 06:44:59 AMIncredible result for Derry, well done to the players and management. My tupppence worth on the Mayo penalty for a footblock. The referee surely made a bad mistake on this one as the ball doesn't hit Mckinless on the foot. It hits him high up on the back of his leg. Surely for a footblock the ball has to be blocked by the foot. Also the ref came in and booked Lynch which shows that he didn't have a clear view of what happened and therefore he should have consulted his umpires.

Definately wasn't a penalty but in fairness, it was hard for any of us to see in real time. We had the benefit of the replay a few times to clarify it.

Officials don't have that.  Re: the booking, Lynch was coming out also and referee probably thought it was his leg/foot.

As I say, very hard to see in real time.
If it was hard to see in real time and he wasn't sure all the more reason not to give it

marty34

Quote from: Mario on June 23, 2024, 08:27:55 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 23, 2024, 08:15:29 AM
Quote from: lenny on June 23, 2024, 06:44:59 AMIncredible result for Derry, well done to the players and management. My tupppence worth on the Mayo penalty for a footblock. The referee surely made a bad mistake on this one as the ball doesn't hit Mckinless on the foot. It hits him high up on the back of his leg. Surely for a footblock the ball has to be blocked by the foot. Also the ref came in and booked Lynch which shows that he didn't have a clear view of what happened and therefore he should have consulted his umpires.

Definately wasn't a penalty but in fairness, it was hard for any of us to see in real time. We had the benefit of the replay a few times to clarify it.

Officials don't have that.  Re: the booking, Lynch was coming out also and referee probably thought it was his leg/foot.

As I say, very hard to see in real time.
If it was hard to see in real time and he wasn't sure all the more reason not to give it

He would probably say he did see a foot block (in real time) and hence the reason he gave it.

Derryman forever

Quote from: marty34 on June 23, 2024, 08:33:59 AM
Quote from: Mario on June 23, 2024, 08:27:55 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 23, 2024, 08:15:29 AM
Quote from: lenny on June 23, 2024, 06:44:59 AMIncredible result for Derry, well done to the players and management. My tupppence worth on the Mayo penalty for a footblock. The referee surely made a bad mistake on this one as the ball doesn't hit Mckinless on the foot. It hits him high up on the back of his leg. Surely for a footblock the ball has to be blocked by the foot. Also the ref came in and booked Lynch which shows that he didn't have a clear view of what happened and therefore he should have consulted his umpires.

Definately wasn't a penalty but in fairness, it was hard for any of us to see in real time. We had the benefit of the replay a few times to clarify it.

Officials don't have that.  Re: the booking, Lynch was coming out also and referee probably thought it was his leg/foot.

As I say, very hard to see in real time.
If it was hard to see in real time and he wasn't sure all the more reason not to give it

He would probably say he did see a foot block (in real time) and hence the reason he gave it.


"He would, wouldn't he"

But the fact is he didn't see it.
So he either was guessing or wanted to see it.

trueblue1234

You can see he tried to get his leg and foot to interfere with the kicking of the ball. For me that's a foot block. Just because it hits above the foot doesn't change the intent. And the wording is to attempt to block from memory. Surely that was a clear attempt at a block with his foot?
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Derryman forever

Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 23, 2024, 08:48:23 AMYou can see he tried to get his leg and foot to interfere with the kicking of the ball. For me that's a foot block. Just because it hits above the foot doesn't change the intent. And the wording is to attempt to block from memory. Surely that was a clear attempt at a block with his foot?

Riiight! Brendan.

yellowcard

It was a clear penalty in my view. At that stage it looked perfectly set up for Mayo to kick on and win the match but they were clueless up front and it was like they had never faced a blanket defence before. Fair play to Derry they did what they needed to do to give themselves a chance. You have to admire the character of players like Lynch in goals.

But playing like that they would get comfortably beaten by either Dublin or Kerry. Against Donegal it would be another 50/50 war of attrition. But at least they have salvaged something from their season and it may have just done enough to save Harte's job.

Mario

Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 23, 2024, 08:48:23 AMYou can see he tried to get his leg and foot to interfere with the kicking of the ball. For me that's a foot block. Just because it hits above the foot doesn't change the intent. And the wording is to attempt to block from memory. Surely that was a clear attempt at a block with his foot?
To block or attempt to block with the boot when an opponent is kicking the ball from the hand

I can see your point if it hit him in the shin/calf maybe but his back was turned and it hit him just below the ass. His instinct was to make himself big to block the shot with a part of his body. Not sure that constitutes intent to block with the boot

Derryman forever

https://youtu.be/jhqf3TW2YIc


And the "referee" gave the yellow card to The goal keeper.

Duine Inteacht Eile

First time seeing that. I think foot block is a fair enough call there.

Brendan

Whatever about the foot block and real time there was at least 2 yards between McKinless and Lynch and wearing very different coloured shorts and jersies how can an intercounty referee get the yellow card so wrong

Rossfan

If Carlsberg did Saturdays.....
A very enjoyable day out in Omagh to say the least.
Then our lovely neighbours fck up for the 2nd time in a week.
Needless to say overjoyed with the win in Omagh.
Probably our biggest win since 1980 on the National stage.
Hopefully we can follow it up with a bigger one next weekend.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Mario on June 23, 2024, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on June 23, 2024, 08:48:23 AMYou can see he tried to get his leg and foot to interfere with the kicking of the ball. For me that's a foot block. Just because it hits above the foot doesn't change the intent. And the wording is to attempt to block from memory. Surely that was a clear attempt at a block with his foot?
To block or attempt to block with the boot when an opponent is kicking the ball from the hand

I can see your point if it hit him in the shin/calf maybe but his back was turned and it hit him just below the ass. His instinct was to make himself big to block the shot with a part of his body. Not sure that constitutes intent to block with the boot
For me you can see him swing his foot and leg in front of the kick. There's zero doubt about that. It's not his natural run that brings him into contact. So there's a definite attempt to block the kick with his leg/foot.
Correct decision. If I was from Derry, there'd be other calls I'd question more than that.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:12:48 AMWhatever about the foot block and real time there was at least 2 yards between McKinless and Lynch and wearing very different coloured shorts and jersies how can an intercounty referee get the yellow card so wrong
I'd be surprised if he thought Lynch was the foot block. He maybe got it for mouthing.

Derryman forever

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 23, 2024, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:12:48 AMWhatever about the foot block and real time there was at least 2 yards between McKinless and Lynch and wearing very different coloured shorts and jersies how can an intercounty referee get the yellow card so wrong
I'd be surprised if he thought Lynch was the foot block. He maybe got it for mouthing.

Watch the booking.  He indicated a foot block as he raised the card.

And this was tackle of the year

https://youtu.be/FS7UaD0Q19s



Brendan

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 23, 2024, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 23, 2024, 09:12:48 AMWhatever about the foot block and real time there was at least 2 yards between McKinless and Lynch and wearing very different coloured shorts and jersies how can an intercounty referee get the yellow card so wrong
I'd be surprised if he thought Lynch was the foot block. He maybe got it for mouthing.

A foot block is a yellow card offence and he make a gesture to his foot when booking him