I was just wondering if anybody can confirm (in some sort of stone) the times for the Mayo games? I'v heard the Junior final is at 2pm. Monaghan game is at 4pm and the Mayo match is at 6pm? I'm working on a tight schedule that day and will just about make the 6pm game!
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Could they not have the 2 Rhubarb games in succession?
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2015, 02:40:59 PM
Could they not have the 2 Rhubarb games in succession?
After all the venue whining the GAA are probably going to go out of their way to actually f**k them over now.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2015, 02:40:59 PM
Could they not have the 2 Rhubarb games in succession?
Hoars did the same with the Minor/Seniors last year.
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2015, 02:45:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2015, 02:40:59 PM
Could they not have the 2 Rhubarb games in succession?
After all the venue whining the GAA are probably going to go out of their way to actually f**k them over now.
Been already doin a fine job of it anyway.
Quote from: Syferus on July 31, 2015, 02:45:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2015, 02:40:59 PM
Could they not have the 2 Rhubarb games in succession?
After all the venue whining the GAA are probably going to go out of their way to actually f**k them over now.
Stop whining about the whining
In all fairness 6 o clock is a cnut of a time to have a game, potentially between 2 counties on the western seaboard.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 31, 2015, 10:21:03 PM
In all fairness 6 o clock is a cnut of a time to have a game, potentially between 2 counties on the western seaboard.
Yeah, I have inlaws in the midlands. Only for kipping there on Saturday night, the journey home would be sh!te. Funny how the Monaghan game was not at this time? Monaghan is a stone throw from Dublin in comparison. Two late weekend for the Donegal crew if they make it the following week!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 31, 2015, 10:21:03 PM
In all fairness 6 o clock is a cnut of a time to have a game, potentially between 2 counties on the western seaboard.
There wont be a cow milked in Mayo until midnight. They ll be completely bamboozled.
Quote from: moysider on July 31, 2015, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 31, 2015, 10:21:03 PM
In all fairness 6 o clock is a cnut of a time to have a game, potentially between 2 counties on the western seaboard.
There wont be a cow milked in Mayo until midnight. They ll be completely bamboozled.
Who; the cows or the players? ;D
I hope this doesn't turn into another complaing match about time/venue etc. GAA fans seem to find reason to complain about every fixture. A few points:
If the junior final was fixed elsewhere there would have been complaints about people have to travel twice in the one weekend. Imagine being forced to sit through an all ireland quarter final between monaghan and tyrone or sligo, so unfair on the fans. I'd imagine the majority of the people interested in the junior game would have enough interest that they'd be happy to watch the other quarter final. Mayo was always going to be the second game as its the bigger match with the junior game being added on to make it easier for Mayo people, its a compliment to Mayo there game is up second.
6 is late enough but its not exactly unworkable. Most people will be home by 11 or 11.30. Given its a one off and the next day is a Sunday with most people of work and schools of anyway its not that bad. If you need to bring small children who go to bed earlier chances are they'd sleep in the car. You'd wonder how fans cope in England with away games maybe 200 hundred miles away at 7.45. Also people would have no problem doing many other activities that wouldn't get them home to that time such as going to the cinema, a concert etc (granted they wouldn't have children there). Also if the game was earlier you'd have complaints about work on a Saturday morning etc.
It sounds like a great afternoons entertainment to me and I just hope we win today and are part of it. No idea why people make these things out to be a chore.
Quote from: Redhand Santa on August 01, 2015, 08:47:55 AM
I hope this doesn't turn into another complaing match about time/venue etc. GAA fans seem to find reason to complain about every fixture. A few points:
If the junior final was fixed elsewhere there would have been complaints about people have to travel twice in the one weekend. Imagine being forced to sit through an all ireland quarter final between monaghan and tyrone or sligo, so unfair on the fans. I'd imagine the majority of the people interested in the junior game would have enough interest that they'd be happy to watch the other quarter final. Mayo was always going to be the second game as its the bigger match with the junior game being added on to make it easier for Mayo people, its a compliment to Mayo there game is up second.
6 is late enough but its not exactly unworkable. Most people will be home by 11 or 11.30. Given its a one off and the next day is a Sunday with most people of work and schools of anyway its not that bad. If you need to bring small children who go to bed earlier chances are they'd sleep in the car. You'd wonder how fans cope in England with away games maybe 200 hundred miles away at 7.45. Also people would have no problem doing many other activities that wouldn't get them home to that time such as going to the cinema, a concert etc (granted they wouldn't have children there). Also if the game was earlier you'd have complaints about work on a Saturday morning etc.
It sounds like a great afternoons entertainment to me and I just hope we win today and are part of it. No idea why people make these things out to be a chore.
Dead right RS. The 6pm throw in is tough on anyone with cows to milk but other than that, it's grand. As you say, the GAA are doing us a favour by having the junior game on first and anyone who doesn't want to sit through the monaghan game isn't much of a gaa fan
Now we ll see what H&C are made of.
So what's the plan for Murphy for a start?
This will be a big test of where Mayo are.
Quote from: moysider on August 01, 2015, 07:37:18 PM
Now we ll see what H&C are made of.
So what's the plan for Murphy for a start?
Have a word with his auld lad.
McGee will do well to get over that ankle injury in a week. Miracles can happen in Donegal though it seems.
Shite full back line and all, I'll be shocked if mayo don't win this by at least 6 points. Better midfield and a beast at 14. Mayo v Dublin, that's the thread that should be started now.
Aiden o'shea v mcgee should be some battle. (Assuming 3 is the non injured one??)
Think donegal have quite a few gaps in defense this year. Mcgee at 4 would have been the man for o'connor too so he would be a big loss.
McGuinness expecting Mayo to go man to man at the back and Donegal to get goal chances. Canavan says he ll be amazed if Mayo don t change. I m with McGuinness. I can t see us change much at this stage.
If we give away 2-11 to Sligo what will Murphy and Co. do to us.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 01, 2015, 07:43:45 PM
Aiden o'shea v mcgee should be some battle. (Assuming 3 is the non injured one??)
Think donegal have quite a few gaps in defense this year. Mcgee at 4 would have been the man for o'connor too so he would be a big loss.
Neil is fit. Had a good game today too.
Eamon will be a miss if he doesn't make it, especially with Lacey doubtful.
Bigger concern would be McBrearty. Was he taken off because of those two poor misses in the second half, or because of an injury?
Mayo won't fear Donegal, that's for sure
Too hard to call, Donegal at full strength i fancy them, McGee will reduce O`Shea influence but will not nullify him, question is where will the other Mayo scored come from?With a few out and Murphy playing too far out Mayo could take them
Can't wait for this one.
Donegal got well tested today. Mayo got no test in Connacht final.
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Quote from: imtommygunn on August 01, 2015, 07:43:45 PM
Aiden o'shea v mcgee should be some battle. (Assuming 3 is the non injured one??)
Think donegal have quite a few gaps in defense this year. Mcgee at 4 would have been the man for o'connor too so he would be a big loss.
Neil is fit. Had a good game today too.
Eamon will be a miss if he doesn't make it, especially with Lacey doubtful.
Bigger concern would be McBrearty. Was he taken off because of those two poor misses in the second half, or because of an injury?
Neil is hard to like but there aren't many ,if any, better full backs around. Eamon big loss alright.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 01, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Too hard to call, Donegal at full strength i fancy them, McGee will reduce O`Shea influence but will not nullify him, question is where will the other Mayo scored come from?With a few out and Murphy playing too far out Mayo could take them
If AOS is kept quiet, we'll be looking to COC for 6+ points, 2+ from Andy, another 5+ from doc, DOC and the half backs and 3+ from subs
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 01, 2015, 08:35:28 PM
Mayo won't fear Donegal, that's for sure
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McGee had serious trouble when Comer got good ball put into him today. If the service to AOS is good even the best FB in Ireland (and Neil McGee is in my book) will find it hard to contain him. The issue is Donegal may be able to effectively slow the ball out the field and let the support come back to sit in front of McGee.
You'd have to fancy Mayo even with the gloss Donegal put on the end of the Glaway game. Will be decided by Murphy v Mayo's FB line and AOS v Donegal's FB line in my opinion.
If Mayo don't play with a blanket defence, which most people think they won't, then I would give Donegal a real chance in this game.
Lacey & McGee missing would be a real problem though so the oul beads will be on overtime this week!!
Quote from: moysider on August 01, 2015, 07:37:18 PM
Now we ll see what H&C are made of.
So what's the plan for Murphy for a start?
You can add McBrearty to that, well able to fetch over Mayo FB line as we've seen, they'll not be shy about lorrying it in.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 01, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Too hard to call, Donegal at full strength i fancy them, McGee will reduce O`Shea influence but will not nullify him, question is where will the other Mayo scored come from?With a few out and Murphy playing too far out Mayo could take them
Is Cillian injured?
If I was still running the spreads I would make mayo favorites by 4.5.
Who would you pick with That spread lads?
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 01, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Too hard to call, Donegal at full strength i fancy them, McGee will reduce O`Shea influence but will not nullify him, question is where will the other Mayo scored come from?With a few out and Murphy playing too far out Mayo could take them
Is Cillian injured?
Maybe they plan for him to be, ala Johnny Doyle in 2011?
I hope Donegal stuff Mayo after having to sit through an hour of officiating from Liam Devenney this afternoon, it would be scant retribution.
Quote from: oakleafgael on August 01, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
I hope Donegal stuff Mayo after having to sit through an hour of officiating from Liam Devenney this afternoon, it would be scant retribution.
Good to see there is legitimate reasoning behind your wishes! :D
Mayo to win for me, and handily too.
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2015, 09:17:40 PM
McGee had serious trouble when Comer got good ball put into him today. If the service to AOS is good even the best FB in Ireland (and Neil McGee is in my book) will find it hard to contain him. The issue is Donegal may be able to effectively slow the ball out the field and let the support come back to sit in front of McGee.
You'd have to fancy Mayo even with the gloss Donegal put on the end of the Glaway game. Will be decided by Murphy v Mayo's FB line and AOS v Donegal's FB line in my opinion.
Aidan will be crowded out and bottled up. There is no way McGee will be left to cope on his own. On the other hand Murphy could find himself one on one again. The point was made today that Murphy spends more time at ff against likes of Galway and Mayo because he gets space against these defences. In Ulster he has more chance influencing the game from deep because he'd be wasted inside against massed defence.
From a Mayo point of view it was maddening to hear McGuinness being 100% that Mayo will give up goal chances again the next day and Donegal will spend the week preparing for a non-blanket. No doubt about it they will be going after goals again and if they get them we re goosed.
The 2012 final was so well rehearsed because Donegal knew exactly what we would do. I wouldn t be surprised if there was a repeat.
Our improved scramble defence still not good enough for Murphy, McBrearty and a rejuvenated (it seems) McFadden. Not to mention the deep runs from Ryan McHugh and McGlynn. McGlynn had a savage game against us in the league e.g.
Honestly, I am hoping we manage to stay in the game for 55 mins and then anything can happen. One thing we cannot afford is to give Mayo a six point lead five minutes in like two years ago. And of course, Mayo are coming in well rested, while we've had five mostly tough matches and one week to prepare. It will be a seriously impressive feat if we manage to pull this off. I give us a 30/70 chance.
Quote from: J70 on August 01, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Honestly, I am hoping we manage to stay in the game for 55 mins and then anything can happen. One thing we cannot afford is to give Mayo a six point lead five minutes in like two years ago. And of course, Mayo are coming in well rested, while we've had five mostly tough matches and one week to prepare. It will be a seriously impressive feat if we manage to pull this off. I give us a 30/70 chance.
Don t be silly J70. I thought ye looked jaded in Ulster final but ye were in rude good health today. It should also be remembered that ye only lost to Monaghan after kicking some very poor wides.
Donegal will get goal chances and the game will be decided by them taking them or not. If we concede 2/3 goals it will be impossible to win no matter how much ball we get.
Quote from: moysider on August 01, 2015, 10:26:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 01, 2015, 09:17:40 PM
McGee had serious trouble when Comer got good ball put into him today. If the service to AOS is good even the best FB in Ireland (and Neil McGee is in my book) will find it hard to contain him. The issue is Donegal may be able to effectively slow the ball out the field and let the support come back to sit in front of McGee.
You'd have to fancy Mayo even with the gloss Donegal put on the end of the Glaway game. Will be decided by Murphy v Mayo's FB line and AOS v Donegal's FB line in my opinion.
Aidan will be crowded out and bottled up. There is no way McGee will be left to cope on his own. On the other hand Murphy could find himself one on one again. The point was made today that Murphy spends more time at ff against likes of Galway and Mayo because he gets space against these defences. In Ulster he has more chance influencing the game from deep because he'd be wasted inside against massed defence.
From a Mayo point of view it was maddening to hear McGuinness being 100% that Mayo will give up goal chances again the next day and Donegal will spend the week preparing for a non-blanket. No doubt about it they will be going after goals again and if they get them we re goosed.
The 2012 final was so well rehearsed because Donegal knew exactly what we would do. I wouldn t be surprised if there was a repeat.
Our improved scramble defence still not good enough for Murphy, McBrearty and a rejuvenated (it seems) McFadden. Not to mention the deep runs from Ryan McHugh and McGlynn. McGlynn had a savage game against us in the league e.g.
This is a spluttering Donegal team though, closer to 2013 than 2012 imho. The holes Galway found today were the exact opposite of what this Donegal team have been famed for. That early goal would have been curtains for a team like Galway in 2012, or even 2014. That's the worry with Donegal. Time is catching up with them faster than it is with Mayo. Lord help Mayo if they go man-to-man on Murphy after 2012 and what they saw today, though.
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McGee had serious trouble when Comer got good ball put into him today. If the service to AOS is good even the best FB in Ireland (and Neil McGee is in my book) will find it hard to contain him. The issue is Donegal may be able to effectively slow the ball out the field and let the support come back to sit in front of McGee.
You'd have to fancy Mayo even with the gloss Donegal put on the end of the Glaway game. Will be decided by Murphy v Mayo's FB line and AOS v Donegal's FB line in my opinion.
Aidan will be crowded out and bottled up. There is no way McGee will be left to cope on his own. On the other hand Murphy could find himself one on one again. The point was made today that Murphy spends more time at ff against likes of Galway and Mayo because he gets space against these defences. In Ulster he has more chance influencing the game from deep because he'd be wasted inside against massed defence.
From a Mayo point of view it was maddening to hear McGuinness being 100% that Mayo will give up goal chances again the next day and Donegal will spend the week preparing for a non-blanket. No doubt about it they will be going after goals again and if they get them we re goosed.
The 2012 final was so well rehearsed because Donegal knew exactly what we would do. I wouldn t be surprised if there was a repeat.
Our improved scramble defence still not good enough for Murphy, McBrearty and a rejuvenated (it seems) McFadden. Not to mention the deep runs from Ryan McHugh and McGlynn. McGlynn had a savage game against us in the league e.g.
This is a spluttering Donegal team though, closer to 2013 than 2012 imho. The holes Galway found today were the exact opposite of what this Donegal team have been famed for. That early goal would have been curtains for a team like Galway in 2012, or even 2014. That's the worry with Donegal. Time is catching up with them faster than it is with Mayo. Lord help Mayo if they go man-to-man on Murphy after 2012 and what they saw today, though.
McGuinness is convinced we will and he dismissed Canavan's incredulity that Mayo would do that. But how can we do anything else? Can t just change and play a completely different game at this time of the year.
We will have players covering back and stuff but with Murphy and O Sé you need 2 markers as well as scrambling defenders as well.
Not sure how spluttering this Donegal team is tbh. Galway got one half chance at a goal. If Donegal nailed some more of those point chances it would have been a right mess.
I'm sure I heard the commentator say we went 28mins without scoring agin Galway.
We also don't have a 3rd quarter blitz anymore. I'd be surprised if we won but it's possible I guess if we pretend that we're fresh instead of jaded which is what we are .
Mayo will do an early blitz attempt , if it comes off they will win comfortably.
Quote from: Whitnail on August 01, 2015, 11:27:02 PM
I'm sure I heard the commentator say we went 28mins without scoring agin Galway.
We also don't have a 3rd quarter blitz anymore. I'd be surprised if we won but it's possible I guess if we pretend that we're fresh instead of jaded which is what we are .
Mayo will do an early blitz attempt , if it comes off they will win comfortably.
Donegal one of the best equipped to make sure that doesn t happen.
With recent history and the early ambushes from both camps, this could be a rather cautious game from both sides. The (unreal) hype behind Donegal after the Armagh game has subsided and I feel there is a weight off their shoulders. I fancy Donegal by three!
We played a massive blanket in the 2nd half of the Mayo Donegal league game, literally 14 men in our own half for most of it. It worked to a certain extent but we missed a couple of chances on the break to kill the game and Donegal were patient enough to work an equalising point to draw. It's pretty much the only time we've played a proper blanket so it will be interesting to see if it was a once off flirtation or will it be brought out if we go a few points up on Saturday
[quoteShite full back line and all, I'll be shocked if mayo don't win this by at least 6 points. Better midfield and a beast at 14. Mayo v Dublin, that's the thread that should be started now.][/quote]Shite full back line and all, I'll be shocked if mayo don't win this by at least 6 points. Better midfield and a beast at 14. Mayo v Dublin, that's the thread that should be started now.
I'm not sure your in the real world. Go through the history between the sides. This is a match Donegal will relish. I'm not confident, but remain hopeful.
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2015, 12:01:07 AM
We played a massive blanket in the 2nd half of the Mayo Donegal league game, literally 14 men in our own half for most of it. It worked to a certain extent but we missed a couple of chances on the break to kill the game and Donegal were patient enough to work an equalising point to draw. It's pretty much the only time we've played a proper blanket so it will be interesting to see if it was a once off flirtation or will it be brought out if we go a few points up on Saturday
Yeah would have squeezed a win that day only for young Durcan got wobbly knees in front of goal. Donegal were without Murphy as far as I remember.
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We played a massive blanket in the 2nd half of the Mayo Donegal league game, literally 14 men in our own half for most of it. It worked to a certain extent but we missed a couple of chances on the break to kill the game and Donegal were patient enough to work an equalising point to draw. It's pretty much the only time we've played a proper blanket so it will be interesting to see if it was a once off flirtation or will it be brought out if we go a few points up on Saturday
Yeah would have squeezed a win that day only for young Durcan got wobbly knees in front of goal. Donegal were without Murphy as far as I remember.
MAYO: K O'Malley; B Harrison, K Keane, K Higgins; L Keegan, C Boyle, D Vaughan (0-01); B Moran (0-03), S O'Shea; K McLoughlin (0-03, 0-01f), A O'Shea (0-01), J Doherty (0-02, 0-02f); M Ronaldson, D Kirby, D O'Connor (0-01).
Subs used: M Conroy (0-01) for Ronaldson (half-time), S Coen for Harrison (45 mins), A Moran for Kirby (55), P Durcan for Boyle (65), N Douglas for McLoughlin (70), M Hall for O'Connor (black card, 70).
DONEGAL: M Boyle; N McGee, E Doherty, P McGrath; E McGee; K Lacey, R McHugh; O MacNiallais (0-03), H McFadden; M McElhinney (0-01), C Toye, F McGlynn; C McFadden (0-01), P McBrearty (1-03, 0-01f), M O'Reilly.
Subs used: C McGinley for Toye (42 mins), A Thompson for Doherty (42), M McHugh for H McFadden (black card, 48), S Griffin (0-01) for McGinley (59).
Thems the teams from the league lads. No Murphy or Gallagher either. Yeah Patrick Durcan was gun shy to close it out but no matter. He s going to be a top player.
I think Donegal have their best team ever and we probably have our best since 1951 when the game was a different game really. Great players on both sides. Donegal had an edge on the tactical side of things though with McGuiness. The recovery from losing Ulster final and winning today suggests that Gallagher knows what he's at too. We ll know a lot more about H&C in a weeks time.
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We played a massive blanket in the 2nd half of the Mayo Donegal league game, literally 14 men in our own half for most of it. It worked to a certain extent but we missed a couple of chances on the break to kill the game and Donegal were patient enough to work an equalising point to draw. It's pretty much the only time we've played a proper blanket so it will be interesting to see if it was a once off flirtation or will it be brought out if we go a few points up on Saturday
Yeah would have squeezed a win that day only for young Durcan got wobbly knees in front of goal. Donegal were without Murphy as far as I remember.
MAYO: K O'Malley; B Harrison, K Keane, K Higgins; L Keegan, C Boyle, D Vaughan (0-01); B Moran (0-03), S O'Shea; K McLoughlin (0-03, 0-01f), A O'Shea (0-01), J Doherty (0-02, 0-02f); M Ronaldson, D Kirby, D O'Connor (0-01).
Subs used: M Conroy (0-01) for Ronaldson (half-time), S Coen for Harrison (45 mins), A Moran for Kirby (55), P Durcan for Boyle (65), N Douglas for McLoughlin (70), M Hall for O'Connor (black card, 70).
DONEGAL: M Boyle; N McGee, E Doherty, P McGrath; E McGee; K Lacey, R McHugh; O MacNiallais (0-03), H McFadden; M McElhinney (0-01), C Toye, F McGlynn; C McFadden (0-01), P McBrearty (1-03, 0-01f), M O'Reilly.
Subs used: C McGinley for Toye (42 mins), A Thompson for Doherty (42), M McHugh for H McFadden (black card, 48), S Griffin (0-01) for McGinley (59).
Thems the teams from the league lads. No Murphy or Gallagher either. Yeah Patrick Durcan was gun shy to close it out but no matter. He s going to be a top player.
I think Donegal have their best team ever and we probably have our best since 1951 when the game was a different game really. Great players on both sides. Donegal had an edge on the tactical side of things though with McGuiness. The recovery from losing Ulster final and winning today suggests that Gallagher knows what he's at too. We ll know a lot more about H&C in a weeks time.
Ah c'mon Moy. Up till 50 minutes a Galway team with only half a clue about defending were probably the better of the two sides. I don't think anyone in Mayo really thinks the current Donegal side can't be got at.
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We played a massive blanket in the 2nd half of the Mayo Donegal league game, literally 14 men in our own half for most of it. It worked to a certain extent but we missed a couple of chances on the break to kill the game and Donegal were patient enough to work an equalising point to draw. It's pretty much the only time we've played a proper blanket so it will be interesting to see if it was a once off flirtation or will it be brought out if we go a few points up on Saturday
Yeah would have squeezed a win that day only for young Durcan got wobbly knees in front of goal. Donegal were without Murphy as far as I remember.
MAYO: K O'Malley; B Harrison, K Keane, K Higgins; L Keegan, C Boyle, D Vaughan (0-01); B Moran (0-03), S O'Shea; K McLoughlin (0-03, 0-01f), A O'Shea (0-01), J Doherty (0-02, 0-02f); M Ronaldson, D Kirby, D O'Connor (0-01).
Subs used: M Conroy (0-01) for Ronaldson (half-time), S Coen for Harrison (45 mins), A Moran for Kirby (55), P Durcan for Boyle (65), N Douglas for McLoughlin (70), M Hall for O'Connor (black card, 70).
DONEGAL: M Boyle; N McGee, E Doherty, P McGrath; E McGee; K Lacey, R McHugh; O MacNiallais (0-03), H McFadden; M McElhinney (0-01), C Toye, F McGlynn; C McFadden (0-01), P McBrearty (1-03, 0-01f), M O'Reilly.
Subs used: C McGinley for Toye (42 mins), A Thompson for Doherty (42), M McHugh for H McFadden (black card, 48), S Griffin (0-01) for McGinley (59).
Thems the teams from the league lads. No Murphy or Gallagher either. Yeah Patrick Durcan was gun shy to close it out but no matter. He s going to be a top player.
I think Donegal have their best team ever and we probably have our best since 1951 when the game was a different game really. Great players on both sides. Donegal had an edge on the tactical side of things though with McGuiness. The recovery from losing Ulster final and winning today suggests that Gallagher knows what he's at too. We ll know a lot more about H&C in a weeks time.
Ah c'mon Moy. Up till 50 minutes a Galway team with only half a clue about defending were probably the better of the two sides. I don't think anyone in Mayo really thinks the current Donegal side can't be got at.
The game was set for Galway at ht. Or so it seemed. But when Donegal got serious - and they did - Galway had no answers.
Tactics aside Sy, how many of those Galway players would make the Donegal team?
I admit I gave Galway a real chance going into this. Mostly based on the perception I had after Monaghan, that Donegal were burning oil and had injuries. Back in the day ordinary enough Galway teams ( before 98), with lads dripping wit Hogan Cup winners would strut onto CP with chests puffed out like they owned it and it was their birth right. Mulholland leading out a team in the 90s springs to mind.
But not today. The big lads in midfield were mostly ineffective. Conroy went into his shell again. Hanley is a bag of nails. Danny Cummins is silly stuff and Comer made an awful poor decision today not to take a fisted point. Lundy spent the day chasing McHugh and was on the back foot all day.
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We played a massive blanket in the 2nd half of the Mayo Donegal league game, literally 14 men in our own half for most of it. It worked to a certain extent but we missed a couple of chances on the break to kill the game and Donegal were patient enough to work an equalising point to draw. It's pretty much the only time we've played a proper blanket so it will be interesting to see if it was a once off flirtation or will it be brought out if we go a few points up on Saturday
Yeah would have squeezed a win that day only for young Durcan got wobbly knees in front of goal. Donegal were without Murphy as far as I remember.
MAYO: K O'Malley; B Harrison, K Keane, K Higgins; L Keegan, C Boyle, D Vaughan (0-01); B Moran (0-03), S O'Shea; K McLoughlin (0-03, 0-01f), A O'Shea (0-01), J Doherty (0-02, 0-02f); M Ronaldson, D Kirby, D O'Connor (0-01).
Subs used: M Conroy (0-01) for Ronaldson (half-time), S Coen for Harrison (45 mins), A Moran for Kirby (55), P Durcan for Boyle (65), N Douglas for McLoughlin (70), M Hall for O'Connor (black card, 70).
DONEGAL: M Boyle; N McGee, E Doherty, P McGrath; E McGee; K Lacey, R McHugh; O MacNiallais (0-03), H McFadden; M McElhinney (0-01), C Toye, F McGlynn; C McFadden (0-01), P McBrearty (1-03, 0-01f), M O'Reilly.
Subs used: C McGinley for Toye (42 mins), A Thompson for Doherty (42), M McHugh for H McFadden (black card, 48), S Griffin (0-01) for McGinley (59).
Thems the teams from the league lads. No Murphy or Gallagher either. Yeah Patrick Durcan was gun shy to close it out but no matter. He s going to be a top player.
I think Donegal have their best team ever and we probably have our best since 1951 when the game was a different game really. Great players on both sides. Donegal had an edge on the tactical side of things though with McGuiness. The recovery from losing Ulster final and winning today suggests that Gallagher knows what he's at too. We ll know a lot more about H&C in a weeks time.
Ah c'mon Moy. Up till 50 minutes a Galway team with only half a clue about defending were probably the better of the two sides. I don't think anyone in Mayo really thinks the current Donegal side can't be got at.
The game was set for Galway at ht. Or so it seemed. But when Donegal got serious - and they did - Galway had no answers.
Tactics aside Sy, how many of those Galway players would make the Donegal team?
I admit I gave Galway a real chance going into this. Mostly based on the perception I had after Monaghan, that Donegal were burning oil and had injuries. Back in the day ordinary enough Galway teams ( before 98), with lads dripping wit Hogan Cup winners would strut onto CP with chests puffed out like they owned it and it was their birth right. Mulholland leading out a team in the 90s springs to mind.
But not today. The big lads in midfield were mostly ineffective. Conroy went into his shell again. Hanley is a bag of nails. Danny Cummins is silly stuff and Comer made an awful poor decision today not to take a fisted point. Lundy spent the day chasing McHugh and was on the back foot all day.
Like I said before the game, the swagger is long gone from Galway. They're just another team with some talent and some problems.
But Mayo are a step beyond Galway and they gave Donegal a real fright. I don't think that Donegal team have it in them to play 70 minutes or even 50 or 60 minutes at the intensity they can in fits and starts. Being a bit battered with injuries doesn't help. If Mayo play well I think they win no matter what Donegal do.
This might be the core of both sides last best chance to win the AI so I'd hope for a match befitting those sakes.
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We played a massive blanket in the 2nd half of the Mayo Donegal league game, literally 14 men in our own half for most of it. It worked to a certain extent but we missed a couple of chances on the break to kill the game and Donegal were patient enough to work an equalising point to draw. It's pretty much the only time we've played a proper blanket so it will be interesting to see if it was a once off flirtation or will it be brought out if we go a few points up on Saturday
Yeah would have squeezed a win that day only for young Durcan got wobbly knees in front of goal. Donegal were without Murphy as far as I remember.
MAYO: K O'Malley; B Harrison, K Keane, K Higgins; L Keegan, C Boyle, D Vaughan (0-01); B Moran (0-03), S O'Shea; K McLoughlin (0-03, 0-01f), A O'Shea (0-01), J Doherty (0-02, 0-02f); M Ronaldson, D Kirby, D O'Connor (0-01).
Subs used: M Conroy (0-01) for Ronaldson (half-time), S Coen for Harrison (45 mins), A Moran for Kirby (55), P Durcan for Boyle (65), N Douglas for McLoughlin (70), M Hall for O'Connor (black card, 70).
DONEGAL: M Boyle; N McGee, E Doherty, P McGrath; E McGee; K Lacey, R McHugh; O MacNiallais (0-03), H McFadden; M McElhinney (0-01), C Toye, F McGlynn; C McFadden (0-01), P McBrearty (1-03, 0-01f), M O'Reilly.
Subs used: C McGinley for Toye (42 mins), A Thompson for Doherty (42), M McHugh for H McFadden (black card, 48), S Griffin (0-01) for McGinley (59).
Thems the teams from the league lads. No Murphy or Gallagher either. Yeah Patrick Durcan was gun shy to close it out but no matter. He s going to be a top player.
I think Donegal have their best team ever and we probably have our best since 1951 when the game was a different game really. Great players on both sides. Donegal had an edge on the tactical side of things though with McGuiness. The recovery from losing Ulster final and winning today suggests that Gallagher knows what he's at too. We ll know a lot more about H&C in a weeks time.
Ah c'mon Moy. Up till 50 minutes a Galway team with only half a clue about defending were probably the better of the two sides. I don't think anyone in Mayo really thinks the current Donegal side can't be got at.
The game was set for Galway at ht. Or so it seemed. But when Donegal got serious - and they did - Galway had no answers.
Tactics aside Sy, how many of those Galway players would make the Donegal team?
I admit I gave Galway a real chance going into this. Mostly based on the perception I had after Monaghan, that Donegal were burning oil and had injuries. Back in the day ordinary enough Galway teams ( before 98), with lads dripping wit Hogan Cup winners would strut onto CP with chests puffed out like they owned it and it was their birth right. Mulholland leading out a team in the 90s springs to mind.
But not today. The big lads in midfield were mostly ineffective. Conroy went into his shell again. Hanley is a bag of nails. Danny Cummins is silly stuff and Comer made an awful poor decision today not to take a fisted point. Lundy spent the day chasing McHugh and was on the back foot all day.
Like I said before the game, the swagger is long gone from Galway. They're just another team with some talent and some problems.
DoBut Mayo are a step beyond Galway and they gave negal a real fright. I don't think that Donegal team have it in them to play 70 minutes or even 50 or 60 minutes at the intensity they can in fits and starts. Being a bit battered with injuries doesn't help. If Mayo play well I think they win no matter what Donegal do.
This might be the core of both sides last best chance to win the AI so I'd hope for a match befitting those sakes.
I don t think Galway gave Donegal a fright at all. A wake up call maybe and then they were out of there.
Mayo are a step beyond Galway. But it's because we have better players than them now. TBH there is no player in the Galway team that I would covet.
However there is the reality that we ve blown 3 winnable AIs tactically and it remains to be seen if H&C can do better.
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We played a massive blanket in the 2nd half of the Mayo Donegal league game, literally 14 men in our own half for most of it. It worked to a certain extent but we missed a couple of chances on the break to kill the game and Donegal were patient enough to work an equalising point to draw. It's pretty much the only time we've played a proper blanket so it will be interesting to see if it was a once off flirtation or will it be brought out if we go a few points up on Saturday
Yeah would have squeezed a win that day only for young Durcan got wobbly knees in front of goal. Donegal were without Murphy as far as I remember.
MAYO: K O'Malley; B Harrison, K Keane, K Higgins; L Keegan, C Boyle, D Vaughan (0-01); B Moran (0-03), S O'Shea; K McLoughlin (0-03, 0-01f), A O'Shea (0-01), J Doherty (0-02, 0-02f); M Ronaldson, D Kirby, D O'Connor (0-01).
Subs used: M Conroy (0-01) for Ronaldson (half-time), S Coen for Harrison (45 mins), A Moran for Kirby (55), P Durcan for Boyle (65), N Douglas for McLoughlin (70), M Hall for O'Connor (black card, 70).
DONEGAL: M Boyle; N McGee, E Doherty, P McGrath; E McGee; K Lacey, R McHugh; O MacNiallais (0-03), H McFadden; M McElhinney (0-01), C Toye, F McGlynn; C McFadden (0-01), P McBrearty (1-03, 0-01f), M O'Reilly.
Subs used: C McGinley for Toye (42 mins), A Thompson for Doherty (42), M McHugh for H McFadden (black card, 48), S Griffin (0-01) for McGinley (59).
Thems the teams from the league lads. No Murphy or Gallagher either. Yeah Patrick Durcan was gun shy to close it out but no matter. He s going to be a top player.
I think Donegal have their best team ever and we probably have our best since 1951 when the game was a different game really. Great players on both sides. Donegal had an edge on the tactical side of things though with McGuiness. The recovery from losing Ulster final and winning today suggests that Gallagher knows what he's at too. We ll know a lot more about H&C in a weeks time.
Ah c'mon Moy. Up till 50 minutes a Galway team with only half a clue about defending were probably the better of the two sides. I don't think anyone in Mayo really thinks the current Donegal side can't be got at.
The game was set for Galway at ht. Or so it seemed. But when Donegal got serious - and they did - Galway had no answers.
Tactics aside Sy, how many of those Galway players would make the Donegal team?
I admit I gave Galway a real chance going into this. Mostly based on the perception I had after Monaghan, that Donegal were burning oil and had injuries. Back in the day ordinary enough Galway teams ( before 98), with lads dripping wit Hogan Cup winners would strut onto CP with chests puffed out like they owned it and it was their birth right. Mulholland leading out a team in the 90s springs to mind.
But not today. The big lads in midfield were mostly ineffective. Conroy went into his shell again. Hanley is a bag of nails. Danny Cummins is silly stuff and Comer made an awful poor decision today not to take a fisted point. Lundy spent the day chasing McHugh and was on the back foot all day.
Like I said before the game, the swagger is long gone from Galway. They're just another team with some talent and some problems.
DoBut Mayo are a step beyond Galway and they gave negal a real fright. I don't think that Donegal team have it in them to play 70 minutes or even 50 or 60 minutes at the intensity they can in fits and starts. Being a bit battered with injuries doesn't help. If Mayo play well I think they win no matter what Donegal do.
This might be the core of both sides last best chance to win the AI so I'd hope for a match befitting those sakes.
I don t think Galway gave Donegal a fright at all. A wake up call maybe and then they were out of there.
Mayo are a step beyond Galway. But it's because we have better players than them now. TBH there is no player in the Galway team that I would covet.
However there is the reality that we ve blown 3 winnable AIs tactically and it remains to be seen if H&C can do better.
2015 is the year of Mayo
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We played a massive blanket in the 2nd half of the Mayo Donegal league game, literally 14 men in our own half for most of it. It worked to a certain extent but we missed a couple of chances on the break to kill the game and Donegal were patient enough to work an equalising point to draw. It's pretty much the only time we've played a proper blanket so it will be interesting to see if it was a once off flirtation or will it be brought out if we go a few points up on Saturday
Yeah would have squeezed a win that day only for young Durcan got wobbly knees in front of goal. Donegal were without Murphy as far as I remember.
MAYO: K O'Malley; B Harrison, K Keane, K Higgins; L Keegan, C Boyle, D Vaughan (0-01); B Moran (0-03), S O'Shea; K McLoughlin (0-03, 0-01f), A O'Shea (0-01), J Doherty (0-02, 0-02f); M Ronaldson, D Kirby, D O'Connor (0-01).
Subs used: M Conroy (0-01) for Ronaldson (half-time), S Coen for Harrison (45 mins), A Moran for Kirby (55), P Durcan for Boyle (65), N Douglas for McLoughlin (70), M Hall for O'Connor (black card, 70).
DONEGAL: M Boyle; N McGee, E Doherty, P McGrath; E McGee; K Lacey, R McHugh; O MacNiallais (0-03), H McFadden; M McElhinney (0-01), C Toye, F McGlynn; C McFadden (0-01), P McBrearty (1-03, 0-01f), M O'Reilly.
Subs used: C McGinley for Toye (42 mins), A Thompson for Doherty (42), M McHugh for H McFadden (black card, 48), S Griffin (0-01) for McGinley (59).
Thems the teams from the league lads. No Murphy or Gallagher either. Yeah Patrick Durcan was gun shy to close it out but no matter. He s going to be a top player.
I think Donegal have their best team ever and we probably have our best since 1951 when the game was a different game really. Great players on both sides. Donegal had an edge on the tactical side of things though with McGuiness. The recovery from losing Ulster final and winning today suggests that Gallagher knows what he's at too. We ll know a lot more about H&C in a weeks time.
Ah c'mon Moy. Up till 50 minutes a Galway team with only half a clue about defending were probably the better of the two sides. I don't think anyone in Mayo really thinks the current Donegal side can't be got at.
The game was set for Galway at ht. Or so it seemed. But when Donegal got serious - and they did - Galway had no answers.
Tactics aside Sy, how many of those Galway players would make the Donegal team?
I admit I gave Galway a real chance going into this. Mostly based on the perception I had after Monaghan, that Donegal were burning oil and had injuries. Back in the day ordinary enough Galway teams ( before 98), with lads dripping wit Hogan Cup winners would strut onto CP with chests puffed out like they owned it and it was their birth right. Mulholland leading out a team in the 90s springs to mind.
But not today. The big lads in midfield were mostly ineffective. Conroy went into his shell again. Hanley is a bag of nails. Danny Cummins is silly stuff and Comer made an awful poor decision today not to take a fisted point. Lundy spent the day chasing McHugh and was on the back foot all day.
Like I said before the game, the swagger is long gone from Galway. They're just another team with some talent and some problems.
DoBut Mayo are a step beyond Galway and they gave negal a real fright. I don't think that Donegal team have it in them to play 70 minutes or even 50 or 60 minutes at the intensity they can in fits and starts. Being a bit battered with injuries doesn't help. If Mayo play well I think they win no matter what Donegal do.
This might be the core of both sides last best chance to win the AI so I'd hope for a match befitting those sakes.
I don t think Galway gave Donegal a fright at all. A wake up call maybe and then they were out of there.
Mayo are a step beyond Galway. But it's because we have better players than them now. TBH there is no player in the Galway team that I would covet.
However there is the reality that we ve blown 3 winnable AIs tactically and it remains to be seen if H&C can do better.
2015 is the year of Mayo
Hopefully
Not a hope. I just can't see Mayo winning this game. I think Donegal will mark AOS out of it and force the rest of our forwards to go to the 45 and handpass sideways without penetrating their defence too much. I thought Galway would beat Donegal, but it was a rather handy win for DL in the end. Mayo only beatGalway by 4.
I disagree mayo have the big unmarkable man at full forward. Donegal aren't bad but maybe not at that level.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 02, 2015, 08:21:52 AM
Not a hope. I just can't see Mayo winning this game. I think Donegal will mark AOS out of it and force the rest of our forwards to go to the 45 and handpass sideways without penetrating their defence too much. I thought Galway would beat Donegal, but it was a rather handy win for DL in the end. Mayo only beatGalway by 4.
Now we're talking! Farr is on board.
Big games required from TP and SOS. Gallagher was very effective vs Galway, sprayed some great passes into FF line. Negate that supply and we'll do alright.
Looking forward to it, much prefer to get our mettle tested before swanning in to play the Dubs.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 02, 2015, 08:21:52 AM
Not a hope. I just can't see Mayo winning this game. I think Donegal will mark AOS out of it and force the rest of our forwards to go to the 45 and handpass sideways without penetrating their defence too much. I thought Galway would beat Donegal, but it was a rather handy win for DL in the end. Mayo only beat Galway by 4.
With 14 minutes to go Galway were losing by only 2 points. A win is a win! Very evenly matched teams. If we are good enough we will beat Donegal. If not we are better off out than facing Dublin.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 01, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Too hard to call, Donegal at full strength i fancy them, McGee will reduce O`Shea influence but will not nullify him, question is where will the other Mayo scored come from?With a few out and Murphy playing too far out Mayo could take them
This will probably be tight for the first half.
But then I am confident enough we will find a scoring forward from somewhere to compliment Aiden O'XI, maybe one of those Ballintubber lads might step up? Possibly the injured lad who got a hatrick against them the last time.
Good to see the real Farr is back in kilter with the universe.
Mayo by 4.
And there will be goals.............
Here's a question for the sports scientists out there, and those lads who are good at figuring out mechanics: why are Donegal hitting so many wides?
They had 17 wides against Monaghan and they were 13 and counting yesterday until the second goal, at which stage the game ended, of course. But why? How is it that a team as experienced as Donegal suddenly can't hit the target anymore?
If half those wides had gone over against Monaghan Donegal wouldn't just have won, they would have won pulling up. The game is about points on the board of course and if Donegal can't score they won't win, but the fact they're having that many wides in the first place indicates they are getting possession by the trailer load.
Donegal's defensive task is to not concede goals and force Mayo to shoot from out the field, thus negating the Aidan O'Shea effect. Mayo can't concede goals either, but if the Donegal shots that are going wide now start going over on Saturday, what will Mayo do then?
Everyone has gotten so caught up in the AOS hype they seem to have forgotten about Cillian O'Connor
Donegal seem to drift in and out of games. A solid team like Mayo will not allow Donegal to go 25+ minutes without scoring and will punish them appropriately, something that Galway and even Monaghan were properly incapable of doing.
Barring any shock upsets, it's looking to be another famous Dublin vs Mayo semi final. Would rather meet them in the AI Final.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 02, 2015, 12:32:09 PM
Donegal seem to drift in and out of games. A solid team like Mayo will not allow Donegal to go 25+ minutes without scoring and will punish them appropriately, something that Galway and even Monaghan were properly incapable of doing.
Barring any shock upsets, it's looking to be another famous Dublin vs Mayo semi final. Would rather meet them in the AI Final.
That would be some match
Hope it's on RTE
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 02, 2015, 12:32:09 PM
Donegal seem to drift in and out of games. A solid team like Mayo will not allow Donegal to go 25+ minutes without scoring and will punish them appropriately, something that Galway and even Monaghan were properly incapable of doing.
Barring any shock upsets, it's looking to be another famous Dublin vs Mayo semi final. Would rather meet them in the AI Final.
Who wouldn't?
Quote from: mad tan on August 02, 2015, 12:48:36 PM
Hope it's on RTE
After the Quarter Finals in both sports they're not exclusive so it'll be on rte and SS
Jaysus, the amount of cute hoorism on this thread would make a Kerryman blush!!
One aspect that hasn't been touched on is that we have two management teams in their first years in charge.
Games nowadays are often won & lost on the sideline & this game may well be decided by who gets it right on the sideline.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 02, 2015, 01:53:01 PM
Jaysus, the amount of cute hoorism on this thread would make a Kerryman blush!!
One aspect that hasn't been touched on is that we have two management teams in their first years in charge.
Games nowadays are often won & lost on the sideline & this game may well be decided by who gets it right on the sideline.
Agree and that is what has me worried the most.
I'm 100% with Farr on this one. I expect that Aidan will be completely swarmed out and predict a long frustrating afternoon for him and Mayo supporters.
I would play Aidan around the middle for this one - most of the time anyway. Try and control possession and the game and limit the threat to our defence. We could have Seamie play a more defensive role. Play Cillian and Andy inside on their own and use runners. Galway did get some joy running at Donegal.
Tommy Carr reckons Mayo will win the All Ireland this September.
Not sure if it'll be Mayo but it'll definitely happen in September
Looking at Kildare here (Kerry walking the ball into the net again and again as I type!), tactics aside, the fatigue factor has me worried. We were dead on our feet two years ago in similar circumstances to what we will face next week. Could be an issue again.
Crazy people , some of our band . We will beat Donegal without breaking sweat.
Without being rude , if AOS has a stormer at FF will the WANs saying he won't as he will be swarmed finally concede on Aido at FF or will it just be touted out again come the semi v jacks?
It doesn't half go on and on with the all forums and Ye slate the TV pundits all the time yet there are bucks who shout from the rooftops about " Sligo will put it up to us, they were very good v ross) oh no they didn't , we fuckin annihilated them . Same as the Kildare v Kerry game today, I told a man last week , Kerry might break all records in the hammering they dish out to Kildare , " not at all , did you even watch the cork game, Kildare were very impressive" eh no Cork didn't show up and those who said Kerry would destroy Kildare were proven right.
Few people on here bumming up neil Mcgee. A good player no doubt but I could play well surrounded by that Donegal defence. He won't be marking AOS on his own. He'll have 3 or 4 around him so they could well nullify the threat. For the record I think the winning of this could come from the sideline and I'm not sure if Gallagher can pull it off like mcguinness. Mayo have to be prepared to go with plan b if AOS is marked out of it. Fascinating contest
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Few people on here bumming up neil Mcgee. A good player no doubt but I could play well surrounded by that Donegal defence. He won't be marking AOS on his own. He'll have 3 or 4 around him so they could well nullify the threat. For the record I think the winning of this could come from the sideline and I'm not sure if Gallagher can pull it off like mcguinness. Mayo have to be prepared to go with plan b if AOS is marked out of it. Fascinating contest
Sure we'll stick you in there instead of McGee if all it takes to look good is being surrounded by the other Donegal defenders. ::)
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Quote from: mad tan on August 02, 2015, 12:48:36 PM
Hope it's on RTE
After the Quarter Finals in both sports they're not exclusive so it'll be on rte and SS
Sky having exclusive rights to matches in Ireland really is an absolute balls. I've a Sky go account running (thanks to a kind relative) on the phone which, whilst not ideal, is better than not watching the games and the hooerin thing bombed out during the Donegal match on Sat and wouldn't start up again with 10 mins to go.
Sky has both big games again on Sat...the claws are starting to grip a bit tighter !! Would do your head in
Sky deal hitting home now. Will be at game but recording and watching later I always enjoyed.
Paddy Power odds
Quote18:00 Mayo v Donegal
5/6 15/2 13/10
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Quote from: mad tan on August 02, 2015, 12:48:36 PM
Hope it's on RTE
After the Quarter Finals in both sports they're not exclusive so it'll be on rte and SS
Sky having exclusive rights to matches in Ireland really is an absolute balls. I've a Sky go account running (thanks to a kind relative) on the phone which, whilst not ideal, is better than not watching the games and the hooerin thing bombed out during the Donegal match on Sat and wouldn't start up again with 10 mins to go.
Sky has both big games again on Sat...the claws are starting to grip a bit tighter !! Would do your head in
Actually it's brilliant. The level of analysis and discussion embarrasses the Sunday Game live and the comedy side show version later on. Canavan and McGuinness actually breaking down what teams are trying to do Vs Brolly's complete bullshit, various spoofers trotting out prepared buzzwords / anecdotes and the likes of cake making a weekly show of himself?
Give the whole thing to Sky if you ask me.
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Quote from: mad tan on August 02, 2015, 12:48:36 PM
Hope it's on RTE
After the Quarter Finals in both sports they're not exclusive so it'll be on rte and SS
Sky having exclusive rights to matches in Ireland really is an absolute balls. I've a Sky go account running (thanks to a kind relative) on the phone which, whilst not ideal, is better than not watching the games and the hooerin thing bombed out during the Donegal match on Sat and wouldn't start up again with 10 mins to go.
Sky has both big games again on Sat...the claws are starting to grip a bit tighter !! Would do your head in
Actually it's brilliant. The level of analysis and discussion embarrasses the Sunday Game live and the comedy side show version later on. Canavan and McGuinness actually breaking down what teams are trying to do Vs Brolly's complete bullshit, various spoofers trotting out prepared buzzwords / anecdotes and the likes of cake making a weekly show of himself?
Give the whole thing to Sky if you ask me.
+1
Quote from: PW Nally on August 03, 2015, 11:44:29 AM
Sky deal hitting home now. Will be at game but recording and watching later I always enjoyed.
Paddy Power odds
Quote18:00 Mayo v Donegal
5/6 15/2 13/10
Close enough.
I thought Donegal would be longer odds.
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 01, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Too hard to call, Donegal at full strength i fancy them, McGee will reduce O`Shea influence but will not nullify him, question is where will the other Mayo scored come from?With a few out and Murphy playing too far out Mayo could take them
This will probably be tight for the first half.
But then I am confident enough we will find a scoring forward from somewhere to compliment Aiden O'XI, maybe one of those Ballintubber lads might step up? Possibly the injured lad who got a hatrick against them the last time.
Good to see the real Farr is back in kilter with the universe.
Mayo by 4.
And there will be goals.............
There will always be goals when Mayo are playing because
WE CONCEDE FAR TOO MANY! Yes, Dublin let in two yesterday, but one was by the help of a ref and umpire when it clearly should have been a free out. I'd give anything for a clean sheet but there's always the realisation that Mayo concede goals at stupid times in matches. Also, (I didn't see the Donegal v Monaghan or Donegal v Galway game live) but as Iolar says, they hit a lot of wides in both...and they may start creeping inside the post the next day. I feel that Mayo's midfield will have to have the game of their lives, and give good ball into the free forwards to have any chance. I'm sure Donegal are aware of this too and will have numerous men behind the ball, and break with speed.
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Hope it's on RTE
After the Quarter Finals in both sports they're not exclusive so it'll be on rte and SS
Sky having exclusive rights to matches in Ireland really is an absolute balls. I've a Sky go account running (thanks to a kind relative) on the phone which, whilst not ideal, is better than not watching the games and the hooerin thing bombed out during the Donegal match on Sat and wouldn't start up again with 10 mins to go.
Sky has both big games again on Sat...the claws are starting to grip a bit tighter !! Would do your head in
Actually it's brilliant. The level of analysis and discussion embarrasses the Sunday Game live and the comedy side show version later on. Canavan and McGuinness actually breaking down what teams are trying to do Vs Brolly's complete bullshit, various spoofers trotting out prepared buzzwords / anecdotes and the likes of cake making a weekly show of himself?
Give the whole thing to Sky if you ask me.
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Hope it's on RTE
After the Quarter Finals in both sports they're not exclusive so it'll be on rte and SS
Sky having exclusive rights to matches in Ireland really is an absolute balls. I've a Sky go account running (thanks to a kind relative) on the phone which, whilst not ideal, is better than not watching the games and the hooerin thing bombed out during the Donegal match on Sat and wouldn't start up again with 10 mins to go.
Sky has both big games again on Sat...the claws are starting to grip a bit tighter !! Would do your head in
Actually it's brilliant. The level of analysis and discussion embarrasses the Sunday Game live and the comedy side show version later on. Canavan and McGuinness actually breaking down what teams are trying to do Vs Brolly's complete bullshit, various spoofers trotting out prepared buzzwords / anecdotes and the likes of cake making a weekly show of himself?
Give the whole thing to Sky if you ask me.
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McGuinness had a brilliant analysis of why Donegal lost the Ulster final in a couple of sentences at the start of the game.
Agree totally. 8minutes of mature discussion, accepting others points and giving their own viewpoint.
Quote@SkySportsGAA: WATCH: The Sky Sports panel look ahead to Mayo v Donegal and Aidan O'Shea v Michael Murphy. http://t.co/jM6OB5G7mt http://t.co/2oc1wlO8lf
You'd wonder what the viewership of GAA on Sky in Britain is? This year has been a bit of a disaster in regard good games that they have covered. The product is not there at the moment bar one the odd game.
at half time in the Donegal armagh game ,Darragh Maloney asked Spillane and Brolly what should Armagh do to get back into the game and he might as well have been asking them a nuclear physics question.All they could say was the game was over and whats the point.They had absolutely no clue how to answer.The same question if asked on the Sky coverage would have gotten a good discussion going and we would have gotten a reasonable answer.I really look forward to the Sky pre ,half time and post match analysis no matter who is playing.Cant remember ever thinking the same for the sunday game coverage
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Quote from: mad tan on August 02, 2015, 12:48:36 PM
Hope it's on RTE
After the Quarter Finals in both sports they're not exclusive so it'll be on rte and SS
Sky having exclusive rights to matches in Ireland really is an absolute balls. I've a Sky go account running (thanks to a kind relative) on the phone which, whilst not ideal, is better than not watching the games and the hooerin thing bombed out during the Donegal match on Sat and wouldn't start up again with 10 mins to go.
Sky has both big games again on Sat...the claws are starting to grip a bit tighter !! Would do your head in
Actually it's brilliant. The level of analysis and discussion embarrasses the Sunday Game live and the comedy side show version later on. Canavan and McGuinness actually breaking down what teams are trying to do Vs Brolly's complete bullshit, various spoofers trotting out prepared buzzwords / anecdotes and the likes of cake making a weekly show of himself?
Give the whole thing to Sky if you ask me.
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McGuinness had a brilliant analysis of why Donegal lost the Ulster final in a couple of sentences at the start of the game.
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Too hard to call, Donegal at full strength i fancy them, McGee will reduce O`Shea influence but will not nullify him, question is where will the other Mayo scored come from?With a few out and Murphy playing too far out Mayo could take them
This will probably be tight for the first half.
But then I am confident enough we will find a scoring forward from somewhere to compliment Aiden O'XI, maybe one of those Ballintubber lads might step up? Possibly the injured lad who got a hatrick against them the last time.
Good to see the real Farr is back in kilter with the universe.
Mayo by 4.
And there will be goals.............
There will always be goals when Mayo are playing because WE CONCEDE FAR TOO MANY! Yes, Dublin let in two yesterday, but one was by the help of a ref and umpire when it clearly should have been a free out. I'd give anything for a clean sheet but there's always the realisation that Mayo concede goals at stupid times in matches. Also, (I didn't see the Donegal v Monaghan or Donegal v Galway game live) but as Iolar says, they hit a lot of wides in both...and they may start creeping inside the post the next day. I feel that Mayo's midfield will have to have the game of their lives, and give good ball into the free forwards to have any chance. I'm sure Donegal are aware of this too and will have numerous men behind the ball, and break with speed.
That's the way we choose to play the game Farr and we have to accept it. But at least we have a go. There is always the chance we will get riddled for goals the way we set up. But looks like we wouldn t have it any other way. We again appointed managers who wouldn t be exactly known to be defensive minded or ground breaking in their approach. I don t remember too much hullabaloo from clubs or supporters when these appointments were made. Not sure Batman and Robin would have been the answer either.
McGuiness had us well sussed in 2012 (he had the opportunity to see us close up and personal before the AI final) and he had the right players, as well as the tactics to do us. It was really a simple enough game plan. Not much has changed imo.
If things go as expected tactically then Murphy will get space inside to damage us but Aidan unlikely to get any freedom at all. That could be enough to decide the contest but you never know? H&C know Donegal inside out and there is no excuses for getting into a game played on their merits.
Donegal will hope AOS plays ff because they can limit his influence there easier. Mayo would hope that Murphy plays as far from goal as possible because we are not equipped to manage him close to goal.
So for a start I would use Aido sparingly close to goal and take it from there. If we have Aidan, Seamie and Tom getting possession about the middle and having runners off the shoulder, then Murphy will be brought out to shore up the middle. That is what we want. I think :-\
Actually looking at us I think H&C will be quite flexible about how we approach this. It has been obvious from the off that they have reservations about our ability to defend in an orthodox way at the back.
Galway were wiped out in the middle third in the second half the last day. And that's where they lost it.
MacNeilis had a field day because there was no one marking him. Walsh was poor on the sideline. Took off corer fw Varley who was playing ok but left Shane Walsh on the bench for far too long. Overall Donegal's superior fitness and physicality clearly came through as the game wore on. And as the Galway defence came under more and more pressure it eventually told.
But can't see Mayo midfield collapsing the same way. Most of the games are won and lost in this area now. Whoever gains control will eventually suffocate the other.
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Galway were wiped out in the middle third in the second half the last day. And that's where they lost it.
MacNeilis had a field day because there was no one marking him. Walsh was poor on the sideline. Took off corer fw Varley who was playing ok but left Shane Walsh on the bench for far too long. Overall Donegal's superior fitness and physicality clearly came through as the game wore on. And as the Galway defence came under more and more pressure it eventually told.
But can't see Mayo midfield collapsing the same way. Most of the games are won and lost in this area now. Whoever gains control will eventually suffocate the other.
Agree and that is why we must have AOS around the middle for this. Try and get control and force Murphy out. So we should start off with cover to prevent early hits and take see how it pans out. If we set up orthodox we will be chasing the game for an hour and most likely lose.
O'Shea killed us at midfield two years ago as well. Surely that will come into it?
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Hope it's on RTE
After the Quarter Finals in both sports they're not exclusive so it'll be on rte and SS
Sky having exclusive rights to matches in Ireland really is an absolute balls. I've a Sky go account running (thanks to a kind relative) on the phone which, whilst not ideal, is better than not watching the games and the hooerin thing bombed out during the Donegal match on Sat and wouldn't start up again with 10 mins to go.
Sky has both big games again on Sat...the claws are starting to grip a bit tighter !! Would do your head in
Actually it's brilliant. The level of analysis and discussion embarrasses the Sunday Game live and the comedy side show version later on. Canavan and McGuinness actually breaking down what teams are trying to do Vs Brolly's complete bullshit, various spoofers trotting out prepared buzzwords / anecdotes and the likes of cake making a weekly show of himself?
Give the whole thing to Sky if you ask me.
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McGuinness had a brilliant analysis of why Donegal lost the Ulster final in a couple of sentences at the start of the game.
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O'Shea killed us at midfield two years ago as well. Surely that will come into it?
Has to imo. Now big Neilly was off colour 2 years ago. Looked way off the pace. I thought he was great again last year. Again this year he looked a bit weary but had a great second half the last day.
I ve no doubt that Aidan will be about the middle, as well as Seamie and Tom P (and Barry Moran as back up later on). Add in lads that can win breaks and cover like O Connor The Younger, Doc and McLoughlin, it is our obvious strategy. But I think we can be fluid as well and get Aidan inside when circumstances suit. Our primary lure is to get Murphy deep though. If we play Aidan around the middle that will happen imo.
You re lucky I m not managing the Mayo team J70 ;) Ye d be still waiting for the second AI.
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Hope it's on RTE
After the Quarter Finals in both sports they're not exclusive so it'll be on rte and SS
Sky having exclusive rights to matches in Ireland really is an absolute balls. I've a Sky go account running (thanks to a kind relative) on the phone which, whilst not ideal, is better than not watching the games and the hooerin thing bombed out during the Donegal match on Sat and wouldn't start up again with 10 mins to go.
Sky has both big games again on Sat...the claws are starting to grip a bit tighter !! Would do your head in
Actually it's brilliant. The level of analysis and discussion embarrasses the Sunday Game live and the comedy side show version later on. Canavan and McGuinness actually breaking down what teams are trying to do Vs Brolly's complete bullshit, various spoofers trotting out prepared buzzwords / anecdotes and the likes of cake making a weekly show of himself?
Give the whole thing to Sky if you ask me.
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McGuinness had a brilliant analysis of why Donegal lost the Ulster final in a couple of sentences at the start of the game.
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Hmmmm.
There is analysis on Sky and the Sunday Game is a bit of a squabble.
Now I dunno if Mayo management are paying attention but Jim McGuinness told us exactly how Donegal can beat Mayo next weekend on the analysis this weekend. But of course it also shows Mayo management how they can avoid the trap - which was glaring anyway in 2012 tbh but we fell into it. That's if anybody is paying attention.
Look, Sunday Game is like Bill, Gilsey, Brady and Dunphy. Ould legends giving it loads.
Most people have to go to a pub to watch Sky though.
At half time everyone talks loud shite and the bar staff turn down the volume on the screens.
As far as I'm concerned Sky don't have analysis period,unless your a mime expert you don't hear a word of what's being said.
Does anybody else feel that time is running out for Mayo to win an All Ireland (any time soon)?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 04, 2015, 01:40:42 AM
Does anybody else feel that time is running out for Mayo to win an All Ireland (any time soon)?
Two years ago, people said to me this was this Mayo teams last chance! Last year was our last chance! We've had a lot of last chances down the years!
Mayo are getting better and should continue to improve.
I think a lot of people overlooked the fact that during the league Mayo only trained collectivity once a week with the aim of peaking now.Saturday will tell the tale as to whether we have one more chance or not A good fast paced display and finishing strongly will give me hope for September glory
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Does anybody else feel that time is running out for Mayo to win an All Ireland (any time soon)?
What's the age profile?
In Donegal we are going to lose Karl Lacey, Eamon McGee, Neil Gallagher, Paul Durcan, Colm McFadden and Christy Toye over the next year or two (all 31-32). Neil McGee, Frank McGlynn and Anthony Thompson are all pushing the 29-30 mark.
Definitely a last run around for us I would think before rebuilding starts.
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 04, 2015, 01:40:42 AM
Does anybody else feel that time is running out for Mayo to win an All Ireland (any time soon)?
What's the age profile?
In Donegal we are going to lose Karl Lacey, Eamon McGee, Neil Gallagher, Paul Durcan, Colm McFadden and Christy Toye over the next year or two (all 31-32). Neil McGee, Frank McGlynn and Anthony Thompson are all pushing the 29-30 mark.
Definitely a last run around for us I would think before rebuilding starts.
Keith Higgins,Tom Cunniffe,Alan Dillion,Barry Moran,Colm Boyle,Chris Barrett,Seamus O Shea,Andy Moran would all be at 28-32 age mark but Mayo should be there or thereabouts for another 2 or 3 years at least.
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Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2015, 12:25:53 AM
O'Shea killed us at midfield two years ago as well. Surely that will come into it?
Has to imo. Now big Neilly was off colour 2 years ago. Looked way off the pace. I thought he was great again last year. Again this year he looked a bit weary but had a great second half the last day.
I ve no doubt that Aidan will be about the middle, as well as Seamie and Tom P (and Barry Moran as back up later on). Add in lads that can win breaks and cover like O Connor The Younger, Doc and McLoughlin, it is our obvious strategy. But I think we can be fluid as well and get Aidan inside when circumstances suit. Our primary lure is to get Murphy deep though. If we play Aidan around the middle that will happen imo.
You re lucky I m not managing the Mayo team J70 ;) Ye d be still waiting for the second AI.
1) I'd be of that thinking too. Playing Aido at FF from the start limits our options too much.
2) If he gets snuffed out early, our ace attacking strategy is gone.
3) If SOS and TP (who's not the most physical even though he's improved a lot) lose the midfield battle, Aido is needed there.
4) If Donegal are winning midfield or even breaking even, they can afford to leave Murphy inside where they'll fancy his chances of at least getting 60/40 of the ball sent in.
5) Our running game and high press game with Aido in the middle worked nicely against Donegal in 2013
6) He can always alternate between FF, CHF, MF if needed.
7) It gives Gallagher a bit to think about
8) It shows that H&C can change things up a bit!
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Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2015, 12:25:53 AM
O'Shea killed us at midfield two years ago as well. Surely that will come into it?
Has to imo. Now big Neilly was off colour 2 years ago. Looked way off the pace. I thought he was great again last year. Again this year he looked a bit weary but had a great second half the last day.
I ve no doubt that Aidan will be about the middle, as well as Seamie and Tom P (and Barry Moran as back up later on). Add in lads that can win breaks and cover like O Connor The Younger, Doc and McLoughlin, it is our obvious strategy. But I think we can be fluid as well and get Aidan inside when circumstances suit. Our primary lure is to get Murphy deep though. If we play Aidan around the middle that will happen imo.
You re lucky I m not managing the Mayo team J70 ;) Ye d be still waiting for the second AI.
1) I'd be of that thinking too. Playing Aido at FF from the start limits our options too much.
2) If he gets snuffed out early, our ace attacking strategy is gone.
3) If SOS and TP (who's not the most physical even though he's improved a lot) lose the midfield battle, Aido is needed there.
4) If Donegal are winning midfield or even breaking even, they can afford to leave Murphy inside where they'll fancy his chances of at least getting 60/40 of the ball sent in.
5) Our running game and high press game with Aido in the middle worked nicely against Donegal in 2013
6) He can always alternate between FF, CHF, MF if needed.
7) It gives Gallagher a bit to think about
8) It shows that H&C can change things up a bit!
Agreed. Roatating Aido could be the way to go.
I reckon Gallagher might do something strange too like he did in the Armagh match where Gallagher went in FF for the first few minutes.
QuoteI think a lot of people overlooked the fact that during the league Mayo only trained collectivity once a week with the aim of peaking now.
That's a good point and should be borne in mind when the Tyrone league disaster struck. I hope the management were training their brains 7 days a week on how to beat a blanket.
Vaughan to man mark Murphy? If not him who will be the marker(s)?
It depends on how nervous you are. Do Mayo adopt a sweeper or do they go man-to-man? I saw a post on the Mayo Gaa blog which was interesting. It suggested leaving off McLoughlin and playing Patrick Durcan and having 4 half backs to block any runs through. And then introducing Mcloughlin in the second half when he could run the legs off someone.
As to the question of who should mark Michael Murphy well the its my opinion that Murphy will most likely win ball against anyone sent out to mark him simply because he is one of the best players of this era. The alternative is to try and cut off the supply he gets and also try to cut out the likes of Ryan McHugh or Frank McGlynn making those runs from deep unopposed which ususally end up in mayhem for the opposition.
My Mayo cousin is very confident.
Very confident indeed.
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My Mayo cousin is very confident.
Very confident indeed.
Your Mayo cousin! Don't tell me Jinxy that you are a descendant of a land grabbing Mayo person? ;)
Third cousin.
Twice removed.
I agree that AOS should be moved out if he's struggling inside but not to start him in there would be ridiculous imo. We should play the game on our terms, not Donegal's. If 2-3 Donegal men are on him then there's less to keep an eye on COC, Andy and runners from deep
Equally, if Parsons and SOS aren't winning at mf, then bring aiden out to help pull Murphy away from goal (if that's where he plays)
How we protect our FB line is the biggest question for Mayo on Saturday. Apart from Murphy, McBrearty is pure class as well, I presume Keith will be put on him
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How we protect our FB line is the biggest question for Mayo on Saturday. Apart from Murphy, McBrearty is pure class as well, I presume Keith will be put on him
Form has dipped recently but he's a serious operator. Allied with the renaissance of McFadden and the constant threat of MacNiallais (super footballer IMO) we'll have plenty to think about besides Murphy.
No harm though, we need to see what we can do against that caliber of forwards....won't get any easier if we have ambitions to go further.
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Quote from: macdanger2 on August 04, 2015, 02:21:20 PM
How we protect our FB line is the biggest question for Mayo on Saturday. Apart from Murphy, McBrearty is pure class as well, I presume Keith will be put on him
Form has dipped recently but he's a serious operator. Allied with the renaissance of McFadden and the constant threat of MacNiallais (super footballer IMO) we'll have plenty to think about besides Murphy.
No harm though, we need to see what we can do against that caliber of forwards....won't get any easier if we have ambitions to go further.
Will Kevin Keane be trusted to mark Murphy?
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2015, 12:56:12 PM
Third cousin.
Twice removed.
"removed" to mayo was he? :P
I'd be narrowly favouring Mayo the next day -I think Donegal have not been a bit impressive so far and I think they are playing a lot of lads with knocks and injuries.
At the moment I think the likeliest outcome for the rest of the championship is that Mayo will beat Donegal, Monaghan to beat Tyrone , then Dublin to beat Mayo and Kerry to beat Monaghan and Kerry to beat Dublin.
David Gough the ref for the match- is it becoming an unspoken rule that only Meath men can ref Mayo?
Good news on the injury front here.
Eamonn McGee should be fine, there was no ankle swelling & Lacey is also making good progress. Whether he will be ready in time or not is 50/50 at the moment.
The last thing we should do is play anyone who is not ready but if he is 90% I'd say Gallagher will play him.
It's all or nothing at this stage.
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David Gough the ref for the match- is it becoming an unspoken rule that only Meath men can ref Mayo?
Gough is leagues ahead of Rielly and even Goldrick. Could be the best elite ref in the sport right now. And watch him have a mare now because I said that..
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 04, 2015, 02:17:37 PM
I agree that AOS should be moved out if he's struggling inside but not to start him in there would be ridiculous imo. We should play the game on our terms, not Donegal's. If 2-3 Donegal men are on him then there's less to keep an eye on COC, Andy and runners from deep
Equally, if Parsons and SOS aren't winning at mf, then bring aiden out to help pull Murphy away from goal (if that's where he plays)
Can't believe that more Mayo lads aren't saying this. Mayo are a team in flying form who ripped us apart last time out. Donegal are flakey this year and have some key men carrying injuries. The Mayo team will be focused on dictating the agenda for the game and on their own strategy.
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Quote from: macdanger2 on August 04, 2015, 02:17:37 PM
I agree that AOS should be moved out if he's struggling inside but not to start him in there would be ridiculous imo. We should play the game on our terms, not Donegal's. If 2-3 Donegal men are on him then there's less to keep an eye on COC, Andy and runners from deep
Equally, if Parsons and SOS aren't winning at mf, then bring aiden out to help pull Murphy away from goal (if that's where he plays)
Can't believe that more Mayo lads aren't saying this. Mayo are a team in flying form who ripped us apart last time out. Donegal are flakey this year and have some key men carrying injuries. The Mayo team will be focused on dictating the agenda for the game and on their own strategy.
Playing Aidan at ff is probably playing the game on Donegal's terms. They ll have him where they want him and can limit his influence most. They won t try to handle him like Sligo and Galway did.
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 04, 2015, 05:30:37 PM
David Gough the ref for the match- is it becoming an unspoken rule that only Meath men can ref Mayo?
Gough is leagues ahead of Rielly and even Goldrick. Could be the best elite ref in the sport right now. And watch him have a mare now because I said that..
Three top referees and all of them Meath men.
When was the last time Roscommon produced a decent ref?
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Quote from: StephenC on August 04, 2015, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 04, 2015, 02:17:37 PM
I agree that AOS should be moved out if he's struggling inside but not to start him in there would be ridiculous imo. We should play the game on our terms, not Donegal's. If 2-3 Donegal men are on him then there's less to keep an eye on COC, Andy and runners from deep
Equally, if Parsons and SOS aren't winning at mf, then bring aiden out to help pull Murphy away from goal (if that's where he plays)
Can't believe that more Mayo lads aren't saying this. Mayo are a team in flying form who ripped us apart last time out. Donegal are flakey this year and have some key men carrying injuries. The Mayo team will be focused on dictating the agenda for the game and on their own strategy.
Playing Aidan at ff is probably playing the game on Donegal's terms. They ll have him where they want him and can limit his influence most. They won t try to handle him like Sligo and Galway did.
I would like to see Aidan playing in between three positions; full forward, midfield and centre forward. It would make things interesting. I'm still fretting about our fullback line with regards this match to be honest.
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 04, 2015, 05:30:37 PM
David Gough the ref for the match- is it becoming an unspoken rule that only Meath men can ref Mayo?
Gough is leagues ahead of Rielly and even Goldrick. Could be the best elite ref in the sport right now. And watch him have a mare now because I said that..
Three top referees and all of them Meath men.
When was the last time Roscommon produced a decent ref?
This year. Paddy Neilan joined the elite panel. You don't hear his name much because he actually does his job.
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Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 04, 2015, 05:30:37 PM
David Gough the ref for the match- is it becoming an unspoken rule that only Meath men can ref Mayo?
Gough is leagues ahead of Rielly and even Goldrick. Could be the best elite ref in the sport right now. And watch him have a mare now because I said that..
Three top referees and all of them Meath men.
When was the last time Roscommon produced a decent ref?
You a Kerryman?
At least we never inflicted a Cormac Reilly on Gaeldom :'(
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Quote from: StephenC on August 04, 2015, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 04, 2015, 02:17:37 PM
I agree that AOS should be moved out if he's struggling inside but not to start him in there would be ridiculous imo. We should play the game on our terms, not Donegal's. If 2-3 Donegal men are on him then there's less to keep an eye on COC, Andy and runners from deep
Equally, if Parsons and SOS aren't winning at mf, then bring aiden out to help pull Murphy away from goal (if that's where he plays)
Can't believe that more Mayo lads aren't saying this. Mayo are a team in flying form who ripped us apart last time out. Donegal are flakey this year and have some key men carrying injuries. The Mayo team will be focused on dictating the agenda for the game and on their own strategy.
Playing Aidan at ff is probably playing the game on Donegal's terms. They ll have him where they want him and can limit his influence most. They won t try to handle him like Sligo and Galway did.
I would like to see Aidan playing in between three positions; full forward, midfield and centre forward. It would make things interesting. I'm still fretting about our fullback line with regards this match to be honest.
Sure stick him in full back as well.
Section of Mayo support showing a weak characteristic that has plagued Mayo football for decades.
Leave him on the square ye fools , Donegal what about them , we are Mayo .
Quote from: larryin89 on August 04, 2015, 10:01:19 PM
Section of Mayo support showing a weak characteristic that has plagued Mayo football for decades.
Leave him on the square ye fools , Donegal what about them , we are Mayo .
Leave him in the square. Let them spend their time trying to work out how to deal with him! Now as regards defence .......... well that's a different story!
Quote from: larryin89 on August 04, 2015, 10:01:19 PM
Section of Mayo support showing a weak characteristic that has plagued Mayo football for decades.
Leave him on the square ye fools , Donegal what about them , we are Mayo .
That's the problem Larryin.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2015, 09:22:11 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 04, 2015, 08:37:09 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 04, 2015, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 04, 2015, 02:17:37 PM
I agree that AOS should be moved out if he's struggling inside but not to start him in there would be ridiculous imo. We should play the game on our terms, not Donegal's. If 2-3 Donegal men are on him then there's less to keep an eye on COC, Andy and runners from deep
Equally, if Parsons and SOS aren't winning at mf, then bring aiden out to help pull Murphy away from goal (if that's where he plays)
Can't believe that more Mayo lads aren't saying this. Mayo are a team in flying form who ripped us apart last time out. Donegal are flakey this year and have some key men carrying injuries. The Mayo team will be focused on dictating the agenda for the game and on their own strategy.
Playing Aidan at ff is probably playing the game on Donegal's terms. They ll have him where they want him and can limit his influence most. They won t try to handle him like Sligo and Galway did.
I would like to see Aidan playing in between three positions; full forward, midfield and centre forward. It would make things interesting. I'm still fretting about our fullback line with regards this match to be honest.
Same as, I'd start him at FF and move him around as needed, same with COC
Quote from: larryin89 on August 04, 2015, 10:01:19 PM
Section of Mayo support showing a weak characteristic that has plagued Mayo football for decades.
Leave him on the square ye fools , Donegal what about them , we are Mayo .
So are you saying a section of Mayo support are responsible for some of the selections and tactics of the past?
Many's the Mayo support went to CP full of optimism/confidence and came home with its tail between it legs. 89, 96,97 and 2012 being good examples. Especially the first 3. By 2012 the fear had well and truly set in. In 13 final the Mayo support largely stayed silent waiting for the axe to fall. Yeah a lot of Mayo supporters wary about this. Mostly because this management have no pedigree of managing at this level. We ll know a lot more on Saturday night of course.
Myself I think the most likely outcomes is that we win with a bit to spare - say 5/6 points, or we lose a tighter game after chasing a good Donegal start.
Probably a bit flippant of me but I do believe we should believe in our own ability more . I don't see what we lose by going with AOS at ff from the start, if it becomes obvious we can't win the middle sure we move him in there . If we are going to try to nullify murphys influence up front by thinking if Aido goes to the middle Murphy will follow , I believe that's showing weakness. Murphy has not been all that mighty imo, inconsistency in his match performances , it might be the making of Kevin Keane to mark him , an ironic sort of twist for the Westport man.
Mayo to win by a healthy margin, Donegal to fall asunder , lose discipline and end up with 13 in the field.
Quote from: moysider on August 04, 2015, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 04, 2015, 10:01:19 PM
Section of Mayo support showing a weak characteristic that has plagued Mayo football for decades.
Leave him on the square ye fools , Donegal what about them , we are Mayo .
So are you saying a section of Mayo support are responsible for some of the selections and tactics of the past?
Many's the Mayo support went to CP full of optimism/confidence and came home with its tail between it legs. 89, 96,97 and 2012 being good examples. Especially the first 3. By 2012 the fear had well and truly set in. In 13 final the Mayo support largely stayed silent waiting for the axe to fall. Yeah a lot of Mayo supporters wary about this. Mostly because this management have no pedigree of managing at this level. We ll know a lot more on Saturday night of course.
Myself I think the most likely outcomes is that we win with a bit to spare - say 5/6 points, or we lose a tighter game after chasing a good Donegal start.
Wouldn't worry about that bit ..... worry more about Donegal making sure that the ball doesn't get into the full forward area, but they can't do that for the whole game. If Mayo keep a well organised/disciplined 12 players behind the half way line (
from the start) then they have a selection of 3 quality forwards to win the game
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 04, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2015, 09:22:11 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 04, 2015, 08:37:09 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 04, 2015, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 04, 2015, 02:17:37 PM
I agree that AOS should be moved out if he's struggling inside but not to start him in there would be ridiculous imo. We should play the game on our terms, not Donegal's. If 2-3 Donegal men are on him then there's less to keep an eye on COC, Andy and runners from deep
Equally, if Parsons and SOS aren't winning at mf, then bring aiden out to help pull Murphy away from goal (if that's where he plays)
Can't believe that more Mayo lads aren't saying this. Mayo are a team in flying form who ripped us apart last time out. Donegal are flakey this year and have some key men carrying injuries. The Mayo team will be focused on dictating the agenda for the game and on their own strategy.
Playing Aidan at ff is probably playing the game on Donegal's terms. They ll have him where they want him and can limit his influence most. They won t try to handle him like Sligo and Galway did.
I would like to see Aidan playing in between three positions; full forward, midfield and centre forward. It would make things interesting. I'm still fretting about our fullback line with regards this match to be honest.
Same as, I'd start him at FF and move him around as needed, same with COC
The key to the full forward is the quality of the playmaker outfield. It's as much about the when to go for the big guy and when not to. Donegal's all Ireland final performance versus kerry. Kerry could vary and play it away. Donegal were only wired to play the game one way. Kerry can get a reputation for the big man at 14 and route one and then slip the Gooch in there with similar results. Tyrone knew the value of having the smartest footballers for 10 years. Kerry will continue to dominate whilst the rest of us wonder is our big man big enough.
Quote from: Real Talk on August 04, 2015, 10:49:19 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 04, 2015, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 04, 2015, 10:01:19 PM
Section of Mayo support showing a weak characteristic that has plagued Mayo football for decades.
Leave him on the square ye fools , Donegal what about them , we are Mayo .
So are you saying a section of Mayo support are responsible for some of the selections and tactics of the past?
Many's the Mayo support went to CP full of optimism/confidence and came home with its tail between it legs. 89, 96,97 and 2012 being good examples. Especially the first 3. By 2012 the fear had well and truly set in. In 13 final the Mayo support largely stayed silent waiting for the axe to fall. Yeah a lot of Mayo supporters wary about this. Mostly because this management have no pedigree of managing at this level. We ll know a lot more on Saturday night of course.
Myself I think the most likely outcomes is that we win with a bit to spare - say 5/6 points, or we lose a tighter game after chasing a good Donegal start.
Wouldn't worry about that bit ..... worry more about Donegal making sure that the ball doesn't get into the full forward area, but they can't do that for the whole game. If Mayo keep a well organised/disciplined 12 players behind the half way line (from the start) then they have a selection of 3 quality forwards to win the game
Sure they re the guys that decide our game plan. The players just won t go out and play 12 back by telepathy or something.
Look at the mess Kildare ended up in trying to play a defensive game - nobody knew what they were at.
Seems to be a bit of angst among Mayo folk as to what the best set up will be on Sunday
Fact is none of us knows how the match ups will pan out & that is where the sidelines will earn their corn.
Big test for two inexperienced management teams & the game may well be won by on field leadership with one or two players stepping up to take the game by the scruff of the neck.
In Murph we trust....
I think that's where COC comes in, he has by far the best vision and passing out of that Mayo team. I'd like to see himself and Aiden switching regularly between FF and CHF during the match
Quote from: moysider on August 04, 2015, 10:31:39 PM
In 13 final the Mayo support largely stayed silent waiting for the axe to fall.
The eeriest last 10 minutes of any match I've ever been at! We are still in the game chasing it. And the stands are dead! Hardly a sound. We get closer and closer on the scoreboard to the Dubs. But the cheers resemble consolation scores by team way behind. I have never ever seen a championship game involving Mayo where we were in it with minutes to go and the crowd did not get behind the team. That evening I realised it would take something special for Mayo to win an AI. We are frightened, more frightened of losing than of trying to win, trying to will our team over the line.
Well the Mayo management have to change the way that hasn't worked for them before and surely the 'football intelligence' is on the side line to get the best system on the field. They have a brilliant squad of players and they must have known that when you reach this stage of the competition you have got to get your game management spot on.
Unchanged as Mayogaa reports:
The Mayo Senior Football Team to face Donegal this Saturday 8th August at 6.00p.m. at Croke Park in the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Quarter-Final is as follows:
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
3. Donal Vaughan - Ballinrobe
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis (Capt.)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
7. Colm Boyle - Davitts
8. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Tom Parsons - Charlestown Sarsfields
10. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber
15. Jason Doherty – Burrishoole
Quote from: Real Talk on August 04, 2015, 11:20:46 PM
Well the Mayo management have to change the way that hasn't worked for them before and surely the 'football intelligence' is on the side line to get the best system on the field. They have a brilliant squad of players and they must have known that when you reach this stage of the competition you have got to get your game management spot on.
No other county have had in my time, as good a squad of players and failed to win an AI.
Roscommon in 77-80 were good but only managed to win one semi out of four campaigns.
Quote from: Real Talk on August 04, 2015, 11:20:46 PM
Well the Mayo management have to change the way that hasn't worked for them before and surely the 'football intelligence' is on the side line to get the best system on the field. They have a brilliant squad of players and they must have known that when you reach this stage of the competition you have got to get your game management spot on.
In fairness tactics have worked ok bar AI finals. Quarter final and semi finals are never the bother tactically! I'm not even going to comment on the farce of a semi final last year. No manager could cope with his two most dangerous players banging their heads off one another and how does a manager deal tactically with Cormac Reilly?
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2015, 11:53:03 PM
Unchanged as Mayogaa reports:
The Mayo Senior Football Team to face Donegal this Saturday 8th August at 6.00p.m. at Croke Park in the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Quarter-Final is as follows:
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
3. Donal Vaughan - Ballinrobe
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis (Capt.)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
7. Colm Boyle - Davitts
8. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Tom Parsons - Charlestown Sarsfields
10. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber
15. Jason Doherty – Burrishoole
No surprises there. Same as Con. final I think?
Quote from: moysider on August 05, 2015, 12:15:06 AM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2015, 11:53:03 PM
Unchanged as Mayogaa reports:
The Mayo Senior Football Team to face Donegal this Saturday 8th August at 6.00p.m. at Croke Park in the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Quarter-Final is as follows:
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
3. Donal Vaughan - Ballinrobe
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis (Capt.)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
7. Colm Boyle - Davitts
8. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Tom Parsons - Charlestown Sarsfields
10. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber
15. Jason Doherty – Burrishoole
No surprises there. Same as Con. final I think?
Can't see some of that team starting!
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 05, 2015, 12:19:53 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 05, 2015, 12:15:06 AM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 04, 2015, 11:53:03 PM
Unchanged as Mayogaa reports:
The Mayo Senior Football Team to face Donegal this Saturday 8th August at 6.00p.m. at Croke Park in the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Quarter-Final is as follows:
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
3. Donal Vaughan - Ballinrobe
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis (Capt.)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
7. Colm Boyle - Davitts
8. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Tom Parsons - Charlestown Sarsfields
10. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber
15. Jason Doherty – Burrishoole
No surprises there. Same as Con. final I think?
Can't see some of that team starting!
Really. I dunno. I can see all that team starting. Not necessarily in those positions of course.
The guys on the Sunday game pointed out some of our defending against Galway & it was a joke. We looked like headless chickens at times .
It won't be good enough on Saturday & a week is a short time to address it.
We won't have faced as much pressure moving the ball out of defence this campaign either & it will be a real scrap.
Toye has to start,Murphy or McBrearty need to stay north & McGlynn needs to run at the Mayo defence all night.
Our tackling will be under the spotlight so the Mcgees need to be carefull here a red card & it's all over.
Is there any reason behind naming Donal Vaughan number 3 again?
They released the team on a Tuesday?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 05, 2015, 02:46:11 AM
They released the team on a Tuesday?
Get the confusion in early!
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 05, 2015, 08:46:23 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 05, 2015, 02:46:11 AM
They released the team on a Tuesday?
Get the confusion in early!
The guys printing the programs wanted the teams in early due to holidays!!!!!!!!
Meaningless exercise.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 05, 2015, 08:46:23 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 05, 2015, 02:46:11 AM
They released the team on a Tuesday?
Get the confusion in early!
Isn't today (wednesday) the deadline for naming the 26 for a saturday game anyway? - So they are only a few hours early really.
If the backs line out as they did against Sligo, Donegal will get goals. I can't see that full back lining out as it did v Sligo however.
QuoteIf the backs line out as they did against Sligo, Donegal will get goals. I can't see that full back lining out as it did v Sligo however.
Well where ever Murphy goes I would like to see Vaughan stuck to him.
Quote from: highorlow on August 05, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
QuoteIf the backs line out as they did against Sligo, Donegal will get goals. I can't see that full back lining out as it did v Sligo however.
Well where ever Murphy goes I would like to see Vaughan stuck to him.
Even if that means Vaughan has to curtail his running up the pitch? I think Murphy will be left inside for a long spell of the match to be honest. IF our midfield get on top and he goes outfield, then Vaughan will thrive, but not if he's left at fullback in my opinion.
Quote from: westbound on August 05, 2015, 09:06:26 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 05, 2015, 08:46:23 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 05, 2015, 02:46:11 AM
They released the team on a Tuesday?
Get the confusion in early!
Isn't today (wednesday) the deadline for naming the 26 for a saturday game anyway? - So they are only a few hours early really.
Nope still Thursday at 9am for a Saturday game and it's not for a team to be named, it's for a team to be provided to Croke Park.
If fact if some county wanted to be a bit sneaky they could provide a true/accurate list to Croke Park by Thursday 9am and then name an incorrect one to the media knowing that it wasn't to be the actual game day 26 at all, as there is no punishment in the rules for this.
Conor Mortimer on the current GAA issues and Mayo's chances this weekend
https://beanbagsports.com/blog/2015/08/05/conor-mortimer-there-is-a-big-issue-in-the-gaa/
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 05, 2015, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 05, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
QuoteIf the backs line out as they did against Sligo, Donegal will get goals. I can't see that full back lining out as it did v Sligo however.
Well where ever Murphy goes I would like to see Vaughan stuck to him.
Even if that means Vaughan has to curtail his running up the pitch? I think Murphy will be left inside for a long spell of the match to be honest. IF our midfield get on top and he goes outfield, then Vaughan will thrive, but not if he's left at fullback in my opinion.
I dont think that will be the team.I think Kevin Keane will start and he will be asked to pick up Murphy.I think Andy might be kept in reserve for the last few minutes
This is set up for Mayo to spring Gavin Duffy.
Quote from: onlooker11 on August 05, 2015, 06:08:59 PM
Conor Mortimer on the current GAA issues and Mayo's chances this weekend
https://beanbagsports.com/blog/2015/08/05/conor-mortimer-there-is-a-big-issue-in-the-gaa/
Pretty good analysis from The Mort, in fairness to him.
Better than his bloody book, I can tell you that much.
That was a very general bland piece from Mortimor that any ten year old could have written, I think Donegal will win on Saturday, aos wont make an impact at full forward or anywhere else for that matter, the only difference in Mayo this year and the last couple of years is that they are older and have more mileage on the clock, its the last hurragh of a very good Mayo team, time has caught up with them and no new blood to freshen up the team.
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 05, 2015, 08:42:19 PM
That was a very general bland piece from Mortimor that any ten year old could have written, I think Donegal will win on Saturday, aos wont make an impact at full forward or anywhere else for that matter, the only difference in Mayo this year and the last couple of years is that they are older and have more mileage on the clock, its the last hurragh of a very good Mayo team, time has caught up with them and no new blood to freshen up the team.
I can't go along with that. I think this Mayo team still have an All Ireland in them. This is probably their last year but I believe they still have time. One way or the other, I expect them to beat Donegal.
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 05, 2015, 08:42:19 PM
That was a very general bland piece from Mortimor that any ten year old could have written, I think Donegal will win on Saturday, aos wont make an impact at full forward or anywhere else for that matter, the only difference in Mayo this year and the last couple of years is that they are older and have more mileage on the clock, its the last hurragh of a very good Mayo team, time has caught up with them and no new blood to freshen up the team.
Only team bar Kerry that can beat Dublin imho. Donegal just don't look like they have that in them this year. That would mean that Mayo are the best placed team to stop the mutual wankfest that would be a Dublin-Kerry AI final.
So, no pressure or anything..
I would give Mayo the edge on Sunday a fitter,fresher squad. Donegal were impressive in how they closed out the Galway game however they went scoreless in that game for twenty eight minutes and they weren't convincing against Monaghan,Derry which would suggest they peaked out for the Tyrone,Armagh games.
Mayo 1-14 Donegal 2-10
It was this game two years ago that we made the switch with Higgins going to 12. He came back in that pocket of space between Murphy & McFadden. It stopped Donegal putting in ball in front or even high as Higgins mopped up everything. What's to say we don't try something similar on Saturday.
Also Aidan O'Shea may not start at 14. He could go to midfield and they could give Keegan/Boyle/Vaughan freedom to go forward all day with the the 3 big men spread across the middle.
Jason Doherty has to nail Ryan McHugh from the start and DO'C has to stick with McGlynn - stop these two from starting attacks and you will go a long way towards beating Donegal.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Chris Barrett come in for Andy Moran.
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2015, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 05, 2015, 08:42:19 PM
That was a very general bland piece from Mortimor that any ten year old could have written, I think Donegal will win on Saturday, aos wont make an impact at full forward or anywhere else for that matter, the only difference in Mayo this year and the last couple of years is that they are older and have more mileage on the clock, its the last hurragh of a very good Mayo team, time has caught up with them and no new blood to freshen up the team.
Only team bar Kerry that can beat Dublin imho. Donegal just don't look like they have that in them this year. That would mean that Mayo are the best placed team to stop the mutual wankfest that would be a Dublin-Kerry AI final.
So, no pressure or anything..
From a Dublin perspective I'd fear Mayo in the semi final but would be quite confident that we would beat Donegal.
Quote from: onlooker11 on August 05, 2015, 06:08:59 PM
Conor Mortimer on the current GAA issues and Mayo's chances this weekend
https://beanbagsports.com/blog/2015/08/05/conor-mortimer-there-is-a-big-issue-in-the-gaa/
Thanks for that Conoreen, I'll read it later.
There were gaps in donegal's defense the last day very similar to dublin's against them last year.
They really need to shore up the half back line. Neilmcgee was always good but had cover. If he gets the same cover as he did against galway or monaghan o'shea will go to town. I imagine they will have learnt though.
I agree with giveballaghback on this one. It isn't anything to do with the lack of new faces replacing these bucks, but by God it'll be lean times when this team goes. I just think Donegal will have enough tactical nous to strangle Mayo to be honest. This is the first time Mayo will have played a Division 1 team since the last time they played Donegal. I am worried because Mayo generally stuttered this league campaign, especially the last few games. I can see Donegal getting two goals at least. I hope I'm wrong but Donegal, since they beat Galway (who I did think had a good chance of turning them over the last day) will have enough confidence in that win especially with the way they lost narrowly to Monaghan.
Let's be realistic here.
Last time out at this level only two years ago.
Mayo 4-17 Donegal 1-10
Colm McFadden got a consolation goal near the end when Mayo were distracted doing interviews with the press.
Stop crying your luck Mayo ones.
"it's mayos last chance" why please tell me why . We could actually win the next three Connacht titles , who will beat Mayo next year in Connacht ? Galway and Roscommon due for castlebar in 16 .
Are Donegal tired?
If you say no , how good are we if we beat them by 10 plus?
I'd love these questions answered before the game ,in 13 we cut through teams hammering all before us till Dublin , yet we never got praised for it , it's always Galway were shoyet , Donegal had a hangover etc etc , be nice to hear beforehand your reaction to a possible anihalation .
Quote from: larryin89 on August 05, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
"it's mayos last chance" why please tell me why . We could actually win the next three Connacht titles , who will beat Mayo next year in Connacht ? Galway and Roscommon due for castlebar in 16 .
Are Donegal tired?
If you say no , how good are we if we beat them by 10 plus?
I'd love these questions answered before the game ,in 13 we cut through teams hammering all before us till Dublin , yet we never got praised for it , it's always Galway were shoyet , Donegal had a hangover etc etc , be nice to hear beforehand your reaction to a possible anihalation .
Praise never put a banbh in the sow Larry. Men can't spend their lives hoping for a pat on the head.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 05, 2015, 10:26:30 PM
I agree with giveballaghback on this one. It isn't anything to do with the lack of new faces replacing these bucks, but by God it'll be lean times when this team goes. I just think Donegal will have enough tactical nous to strangle Mayo to be honest. This is the first time Mayo will have played a Division 1 team since the last time they played Donegal. I am worried because Mayo generally stuttered this league campaign, especially the last few games. I can see Donegal getting two goals at least. I hope I'm wrong but Donegal, since they beat Galway (who I did think had a good chance of turning them over the last day) will have enough confidence in that win especially with the way they lost narrowly to Monaghan.
2012,2013 Mayo finished on 6,7 points in the league before going on to reach the All Ireland finals. This year Mayo finished on 7 points.
Quote from: larryin89 on August 05, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
"it's mayos last chance" why please tell me why . We could actually win the next three Connacht titles , who will beat Mayo next year in Connacht ? Galway and Roscommon due for castlebar in 16 .
Are Donegal tired?
If you say no , how good are we if we beat them by 10 plus?
I'd love these questions answered before the game ,in 13 we cut through teams hammering all before us till Dublin , yet we never got praised for it , it's always Galway were shoyet , Donegal had a hangover etc etc , be nice to hear beforehand your reaction to a possible anihalation .
I always thought you lads were great at praising yourselves and patting your own backs. Sure, your a prime example. You're right though, Connacht is pretty shite and Mayo will most likely win the next 3 titles. But ffs, will you ever learn to have a bit of humility until you actually win the All Ireland. You'll get all the praise you want then. Your posts are full of the same oul guff you and your cronies have posted at this time of year every single year since every other Connacht county decided to throw in the towel.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 05, 2015, 11:06:30 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 05, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
"it's mayos last chance" why please tell me why . We could actually win the next three Connacht titles , who will beat Mayo next year in Connacht ? Galway and Roscommon due for castlebar in 16 .
Are Donegal tired?
If you say no , how good are we if we beat them by 10 plus?
I'd love these questions answered before the game ,in 13 we cut through teams hammering all before us till Dublin , yet we never got praised for it , it's always Galway were shoyet , Donegal had a hangover etc etc , be nice to hear beforehand your reaction to a possible anihalation .
Praise never put a banbh in the sow Larry. Men can't spend their lives hoping for a pat on the head.
Not really what I'm naggin at, i find it amazing how when this Mayo team blitz a team , it's always the opposition were dreadful but yet the same bucks tell you beforehand it will be tight and hard one to call. I think Mayo are unstoppable this year, on a mission and AOS is unmarkable , Sam Maguire is for castlebar .(not influenced by drink, drugs or romantic notions)
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2015, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 05, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
"it's mayos last chance" why please tell me why . We could actually win the next three Connacht titles , who will beat Mayo next year in Connacht ? Galway and Roscommon due for castlebar in 16 .
Are Donegal tired?
If you say no , how good are we if we beat them by 10 plus?
I'd love these questions answered before the game ,in 13 we cut through teams hammering all before us till Dublin , yet we never got praised for it , it's always Galway were shoyet , Donegal had a hangover etc etc , be nice to hear beforehand your reaction to a possible anihalation .
I always thought you lads were great at praising yourselves and patting your own backs. Sure, your a prime example. You're right though, Connacht is pretty shite and Mayo will most likely win the next 3 titles. But ffs, will you ever learn to have a bit of humility until you actually win the All Ireland. You'll get all the praise you want then. Your posts are full of the same oul guff you and your cronies have posted at this time of year every single year since every other Connacht county decided to throw in the towel.
I doubt any other Mayo posters here have ever been as gung ho as Larryin. Unless you're counting Mayo Mick, which is as obvious a troll account as you can get.
Maybe the lads on Willie Joe's blog and Boards.ie get a bit too excited but what has poor Farr and Moysider done to offend you?
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2015, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2015, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 05, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
"it's mayos last chance" why please tell me why . We could actually win the next three Connacht titles , who will beat Mayo next year in Connacht ? Galway and Roscommon due for castlebar in 16 .
Are Donegal tired?
If you say no , how good are we if we beat them by 10 plus?
I'd love these questions answered before the game ,in 13 we cut through teams hammering all before us till Dublin , yet we never got praised for it , it's always Galway were shoyet , Donegal had a hangover etc etc , be nice to hear beforehand your reaction to a possible anihalation .
I always thought you lads were great at praising yourselves and patting your own backs. Sure, your a prime example. You're right though, Connacht is pretty shite and Mayo will most likely win the next 3 titles. But ffs, will you ever learn to have a bit of humility until you actually win the All Ireland. You'll get all the praise you want then. Your posts are full of the same oul guff you and your cronies have posted at this time of year every single year since every other Connacht county decided to throw in the towel.
I doubt any other Mayo posters here have ever been as gung ho as Larryin. Unless you're counting Mayo Mick, which is as obvious a troll account as you can get.
Maybe the lads on Willie Joe's blog and Boards.ie get a bit too excited but what has poor Farr and Moysider done to offend you?
Am I offended? Did I mention Farr or Moysider? Are you the official Mayo Rottweiler? Are you so submissive to Mayo now that this the assumed role of a Rossie in Connacht now?
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2015, 11:45:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2015, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2015, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 05, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
"it's mayos last chance" why please tell me why . We could actually win the next three Connacht titles , who will beat Mayo next year in Connacht ? Galway and Roscommon due for castlebar in 16 .
Are Donegal tired?
If you say no , how good are we if we beat them by 10 plus?
I'd love these questions answered before the game ,in 13 we cut through teams hammering all before us till Dublin , yet we never got praised for it , it's always Galway were shoyet , Donegal had a hangover etc etc , be nice to hear beforehand your reaction to a possible anihalation .
I always thought you lads were great at praising yourselves and patting your own backs. Sure, your a prime example. You're right though, Connacht is pretty shite and Mayo will most likely win the next 3 titles. But ffs, will you ever learn to have a bit of humility until you actually win the All Ireland. You'll get all the praise you want then. Your posts are full of the same oul guff you and your cronies have posted at this time of year every single year since every other Connacht county decided to throw in the towel.
I doubt any other Mayo posters here have ever been as gung ho as Larryin. Unless you're counting Mayo Mick, which is as obvious a troll account as you can get.
Maybe the lads on Willie Joe's blog and Boards.ie get a bit too excited but what has poor Farr and Moysider done to offend you?
Am I offended? Did I mention Farr or Moysider? Are you the official Mayo Rottweiler? Are you so submissive now that this the assumed role of a Rossie in Connacht now?
Not the first time a Tyrone man has played the Rossie rather than the ball this year..
Syfín is a well know lover of rhubarb ;D
Quote from: larryin89 on August 05, 2015, 11:22:52 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 05, 2015, 11:06:30 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 05, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
"it's mayos last chance" why please tell me why . We could actually win the next three Connacht titles , who will beat Mayo next year in Connacht ? Galway and Roscommon due for castlebar in 16 .
Are Donegal tired?
If you say no , how good are we if we beat them by 10 plus?
I'd love these questions answered before the game ,in 13 we cut through teams hammering all before us till Dublin , yet we never got praised for it , it's always Galway were shoyet , Donegal had a hangover etc etc , be nice to hear beforehand your reaction to a possible anihalation .
Praise never put a banbh in the sow Larry. Men can't spend their lives hoping for a pat on the head.
Not really what I'm naggin at, i find it amazing how when this Mayo team blitz a team , it's always the opposition were dreadful but yet the same bucks tell you beforehand it will be tight and hard one to call. I think Mayo are unstoppable this year, on a mission and AOS is unmarkable , Sam Maguire is for castlebar .(not influenced by drink, drugs or romantic notions)
Was that not the case the last two years? ;D
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2015, 11:46:54 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2015, 11:45:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2015, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2015, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 05, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
"it's mayos last chance" why please tell me why . We could actually win the next three Connacht titles , who will beat Mayo next year in Connacht ? Galway and Roscommon due for castlebar in 16 .
Are Donegal tired?
If you say no , how good are we if we beat them by 10 plus?
I'd love these questions answered before the game ,in 13 we cut through teams hammering all before us till Dublin , yet we never got praised for it , it's always Galway were shoyet , Donegal had a hangover etc etc , be nice to hear beforehand your reaction to a possible anihalation .
I always thought you lads were great at praising yourselves and patting your own backs. Sure, your a prime example. You're right though, Connacht is pretty shite and Mayo will most likely win the next 3 titles. But ffs, will you ever learn to have a bit of humility until you actually win the All Ireland. You'll get all the praise you want then. Your posts are full of the same oul guff you and your cronies have posted at this time of year every single year since every other Connacht county decided to throw in the towel.
I doubt any other Mayo posters here have ever been as gung ho as Larryin. Unless you're counting Mayo Mick, which is as obvious a troll account as you can get.
Maybe the lads on Willie Joe's blog and Boards.ie get a bit too excited but what has poor Farr and Moysider done to offend you?
Am I offended? Did I mention Farr or Moysider? Are you the official Mayo Rottweiler? Are you so submissive now that this the assumed role of a Rossie in Connacht now?
Not the first time a Tyrone man has played the Rossie rather than the ball this year..
Still hurting?
Larry, go win a couple of Ireland's then we praise you for it, until then the tag of chokers will always remain, plus that team hasn't a good enough froward to win an All-Ireland, been Mayo problem from 2004
Well BennyCake you did say 'you lads'. That must imply all Mayo lads.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 06, 2015, 01:11:01 AM
Well BennyCake you did say 'you lads'. That must imply all Mayo lads.
Bennycake is always at that oul craic. I wouldn't worry about it. 😜 But yes, I'm sure he did mean every single Mayo person in the county. I'm sure, however, that he is fully aware that there are a few more level headed Mayo lads out there too - like your good self for example!
Just a bit of a thought. We normally have no problem winning AI semi finals and Quarter Finals. Any time in the last number of years we have met the reigning AI champions we have bet them. Galway '98 - Tyrone 04 -Cork 11 - Dublin 12 - Donegal 13. Could it be Kerry -15?
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 06, 2015, 01:35:45 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 06, 2015, 01:11:01 AM
Well BennyCake you did say 'you lads'. That must imply all Mayo lads.
Bennycake is always at that oul craic. I wouldn't worry about it. 😜 But yes, I'm sure he did mean every single Mayo person in the county. I'm sure, however, that he is fully aware that there are a few more level headed Mayo lads out there too - like your good self for example!
Whoops :P
I'm also fed up to the hilt of Mayo fans complaining. Times of games, refs, and the latest is complaining about the tickets they've been allocated. FFS cop the fcuk on, enjoy these years they won't last forever.
Pretty good words from Pat Holmes last night on the news. Fair play to him, he is such a bore I'd say the mejia don't bother with him anymore.
QuoteI think Mayo are unstoppable this year, on a mission and AOS is unmarkable , Sam Maguire is for castlebar .(not influenced by drink, drugs or romantic notions)
I'd say you've been watching too much UFC and MacGregor. What do you want Larry? all of us Mayo's to be mouthing off as if we are going for 5 sams in row. Ya don't here much of that coming from Kerry (apart from 'star'). Take note of what happen to your very close neighbours when they got ahead of themselves.
Go and get yourself a few boutique beers, I find that they have a calming influence.
Fair enough you believe in the team's capability to possibly win easy, but at the end of the day it's Croker and a AIQF, not so sure Donegal are finished just yet. I saw the highlights of the Galway game only yesterday and those 2nd half high balls into Murphy are scary, I'm sure you'd agree on that despite your optimism.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 06, 2015, 09:27:49 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 06, 2015, 01:35:45 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 06, 2015, 01:11:01 AM
Well BennyCake you did say 'you lads'. That must imply all Mayo lads.
Bennycake is always at that oul craic. I wouldn't worry about it. 😜 But yes, I'm sure he did mean every single Mayo person in the county. I'm sure, however, that he is fully aware that there are a few more level headed Mayo lads out there too - like your good self for example!
Whoops :P
I'm also fed up to the hilt of Mayo fans complaining. Times of games, refs, and the latest is complaining about the tickets they've been allocated. FFS cop the fcuk on, enjoy these years they won't last forever.
You might consider taking your own advice there Farr :) :P
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 05, 2015, 10:26:30 PM
I agree with giveballaghback on this one. It isn't anything to do with the lack of new faces replacing these bucks, but by God it'll be lean times when this team goes. I just think Donegal will have enough tactical nous to strangle Mayo to be honest. This is the first time Mayo will have played a Division 1 team since the last time they played Donegal. I am worried because Mayo generally stuttered this league campaign, especially the last few games. I can see Donegal getting two goals at least. I hope I'm wrong but Donegal, since they beat Galway (who I did think had a good chance of turning them over the last day) will have enough confidence in that win especially with the way they lost narrowly to Monaghan.
Arra, fair play Farr, a mhic, just as I was starting to feel a bit iffy, you came to the rescue. ;D ;D
I dunno what I'd do if you ever give Mayo the thumbs up but right now I'm off to the bookies with me fiver in me fist.
Keep up the good work and here's hoping you'll rubbish our chances when late September comes around.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 05, 2015, 08:29:36 PM
Quote from: onlooker11 on August 05, 2015, 06:08:59 PM
Conor Mortimer on the current GAA issues and Mayo's chances this weekend
https://beanbagsports.com/blog/2015/08/05/conor-mortimer-there-is-a-big-issue-in-the-gaa/
Pretty good analysis from The Mort, in fairness to him.
Better than his bloody book, I can tell you that much.
YEah, very hard to disagree. Will Mayo get the two goals he says they need though? I think they could.
Mayo will open up the Donegal defence at some stage. And Donegal will do the same to Mayo.
Whoever takes these chances will win it.
Unless its a high scoring free for all in which case I would back Mayo but can't see that happening.
Quote from: highorlow on August 06, 2015, 09:38:04 AM
Pretty good words from Pat Holmes last night on the news. Fair play to him, he is such a bore I'd say the mejia don't bother with him anymore.
QuoteI think Mayo are unstoppable this year, on a mission and AOS is unmarkable , Sam Maguire is for castlebar .(not influenced by drink, drugs or romantic notions)
I'd say you've been watching too much UFC and MacGregor. What do you want Larry? all of us Mayo's to be mouthing off as if we are going for 5 sams in row. Ya don't here much of that coming from Kerry (apart from 'star'). Take note of what happen to your very close neighbours when they got ahead of themselves.
Go and get yourself a few boutique beers, I find that they have a calming influence.
Fair enough you believe in the team's capability to possibly win easy, but at the end of the day it's Croker and a AIQF, not so sure Donegal are finished just yet. I saw the highlights of the Galway game only yesterday and those 2nd half high balls into Murphy are scary, I'm sure you'd agree on that despite your optimism.
Ah yeah. We really went in taking Sligo for granted. You'd want to look back to what was said before the Sligo game if you really think that. Mayo folk should know better than most that the media filling you with hot air doesn't mean the county is buying it and taking games for granted.
I think Donegal have gone backwards since McG left. Maybe it was the four hard years thy put in under him
I'd expect us to win but it will be a great test of our full back line and the weakness there
If Mayo get up six or seven points early on like two years ago, it's curtains for Donegal, especially if the goals are given up as cheaply. We need a solid start this time.
Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2015, 03:42:27 PM
If Mayo get up six or seven points early on like two years ago, it's curtains for Donegal, especially if the goals are given up as cheaply. We need a solid start this time.
Mayo posters could say the same about the 2012 final in fairness.
QuoteAh yeah. We really went in taking Sligo for granted. You'd want to look back to what was said before the Sligo game if you really think that. Mayo folk should know better than most that the media filling you with hot air doesn't mean the county is buying it and taking games for granted.
It was long before the Sligo game that Evans was talking ye up.
Quote from: highorlow on August 06, 2015, 04:13:32 PM
QuoteAh yeah. We really went in taking Sligo for granted. You'd want to look back to what was said before the Sligo game if you really think that. Mayo folk should know better than most that the media filling you with hot air doesn't mean the county is buying it and taking games for granted.
It was long before the Sligo game that Evans was talking ye up.
He's derailing yet another thread, but if Roscommon didn't take their eye off the ball for the Sligo game, then they're in even bigger trouble.
Quote from: Canalman on August 06, 2015, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2015, 03:42:27 PM
If Mayo get up six or seven points early on like two years ago, it's curtains for Donegal, especially if the goals are given up as cheaply. We need a solid start this time.
Mayo posters could say the same about the 2012 final in fairness.
True. I think Donegal were in a slightly different place in 2013 than Mayo were in 2012 though. And those two sides had no mutual history in 2012. And while you could say that Donegal will be out to prove a point this time, they are a relatively aging side going into their sixth tough game.
Quote from: Tubberman on August 06, 2015, 04:16:25 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 06, 2015, 04:13:32 PM
QuoteAh yeah. We really went in taking Sligo for granted. You'd want to look back to what was said before the Sligo game if you really think that. Mayo folk should know better than most that the media filling you with hot air doesn't mean the county is buying it and taking games for granted.
It was long before the Sligo game that Evans was talking ye up.
He's derailing yet another thread, but if Roscommon didn't take their eye off the ball for the Sligo game, then they're in even bigger trouble.
It wasn't me who brought it up so wind your big long neck back into its socket.
We played injured players and put in a horrendous performance. Have you never seen a team put in a below-par performance before? Never seen a focused team do that? It happens. There was little arrogance to be seen by the players on the field.
Trying to find reasons beyond that is just a case of people creating narratives to suit the point they want to make at that given time.
Let it go Syf. Summer 2015 was a disaster from management and many players.
Now to talk about teams who are still standing.....
Will it be the end of the road for the team that loses here?
Both of them first came good in 2011, have most of the same players now in their 5th tough year at or near the top.
Will be a desperate struggle and may come down to the fact the Rhus might have that bit more desire never having landed Sam.
Mwr by 3 points.
Something that was posted on another thread:
QuoteWe'll be up against three counties from Ulster on Saturday
Just wondering if the Tyrone / Monaghan fans will be supporting their neighbours on Saturday?? I would have thought that they will as there wouldn't be much antagonism between Donegal and either of the others
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 07, 2015, 08:58:50 AM
Something that was posted on another thread:
QuoteWe'll be up against three counties from Ulster on Saturday
Just wondering if the Tyrone / Monaghan fans will be supporting their neighbours on Saturday?? I would have thought that they will as there wouldn't be much antagonism between Donegal and either of the others
We might scrap like cats amongst ourselves but when faced with a challenge from cocky southerners we usually present a united front ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2015, 04:35:03 PM
Quote from: Canalman on August 06, 2015, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2015, 03:42:27 PM
If Mayo get up six or seven points early on like two years ago, it's curtains for Donegal, especially if the goals are given up as cheaply. We need a solid start this time.
Mayo posters could say the same about the 2012 final in fairness.
True. I think Donegal were in a slightly different place in 2013 than Mayo were in 2012 though. And those two sides had no mutual history in 2012. And while you could say that Donegal will be out to prove a point this time, they are a relatively aging side going into their sixth tough game.
I was just thinking the other day how young many of this donegal team are s Murphy is 25? Macbreaty Odhrán Mac Niallais the Mchughs ,paddy Mcgrath,Martin O'Reilly, hugh Mcfadden are all in their early 20's.
I know there is another batch in their late 20 early 30's but over all its a well balanced team in term of age.
where it falls down is they are all Useless
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 07, 2015, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 07, 2015, 08:58:50 AM
Something that was posted on another thread:
QuoteWe'll be up against three counties from Ulster on Saturday
Just wondering if the Tyrone / Monaghan fans will be supporting their neighbours on Saturday?? I would have thought that they will as there wouldn't be much antagonism between Donegal and either of the others
We might scrap like cats amongst ourselves but when faced with a challenge from cocky southerners we usually present a united front ;D ;D ;D
Sure Mayo is in the West!!
I'll make 2 predictions:
Mayo 1:12 - Donegal 1:10
and
Mayo 1:12 - Donegal 1:12
Quote from: rosnarun on August 07, 2015, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2015, 04:35:03 PM
Quote from: Canalman on August 06, 2015, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2015, 03:42:27 PM
If Mayo get up six or seven points early on like two years ago, it's curtains for Donegal, especially if the goals are given up as cheaply. We need a solid start this time.
Mayo posters could say the same about the 2012 final in fairness.
True. I think Donegal were in a slightly different place in 2013 than Mayo were in 2012 though. And those two sides had no mutual history in 2012. And while you could say that Donegal will be out to prove a point this time, they are a relatively aging side going into their sixth tough game.
I was just thinking the other day how young many of this donegal team are s Murphy is 25? Macbreaty Odhrán Mac Niallais the Mchughs ,paddy Mcgrath,Martin O'Reilly, hugh Mcfadden are all in their early 20's.
I know there is another batch in their late 20 early 30's but over all its a well balanced team in term of age.
where it falls down is they are all Useless
If Donegal are useless then what does that make us Ros considering this Donegal team has played two finals and won one and we have played two finals and lost two!!! :o
Very evenly matched teams for this one with Donegal struggling with their shooting as of late and we have a perennial shaky full back line shipping a few soft goals so far this championship.
I think if we get ahead and dominate midfield we could win by about 4 or 5 points in the end although it is a big if with regards to dominating midfield!!
If Donegal get ahead early doors I think we will struggle badly to break down their defensive system ( although their has been more room down the CHB channel lately) which would probably see the men from Tír Chonail prevail.
Another scenario possible I think is a more even, physical , fast paced game with the team who gets on top in the collisions and around the middle third ,shading it by 2 or 3 points in a bit of a shootout , so my prediction is ,
Mayo 2-14
Donegal 3-09
Aidan O Shea grabbing an early goal like Murphy in 2012 with a fresher stronger Mayo dominating the middle only for Donegal to come roaring back in the third quarter with two sucker punch goals leading to a stout 13 men behind the ball hold out ( along with a couple of black cards) by Mayo for the last 5 mins!!!
highorlow could be on the money about a draw though!!
Replay to be played at the Hyde.
Mayo 3-16 Donegal 1-11
8)
Hope I am wrong, but it's Mayo by six for me. Too many lulls in our play this year.
2-14 to 1-11
Mayo 2-16 3-7 Donegal
Not even going to bother predicting a score line other than say there will be goals. If we play anything close to our powerful, fast, hard running best then it will be too much for Donegal. Mayo by 5 or 6 at least.
Too many ifs buts & maybes to predict the outcome of this game with any certainty.
If all our players are fully fit, if we maintain the form that saw off Galway, if we get the shooting radar back on track, then I think we will win.
There should be a good crowd & a great atmosphere. Really looking forward to it
Not sure how seriously to take this with Lacey and Eamon McGee back in. I'd imagine there might be some fitness tests still to do tomorrow afternoon.
And Hugh McFadden, so good they (RTE) named him twice!
Declan Walsh should be 22
1 Paul Durcan
2 Paddy McGrath 3 Neil McGee 4 Eamon McGee
5 Ryan McHugh 6 Karl Lacey 7 Frank McGlynn
8 Neil Gallagher 9 Martin McElhinney
10 Martin O'Reilly 11 Odrán MacNiallais 12 Mark McHugh
13 Paddy McBrearty 14 Michael Murphy 15 Colm McFadden
Replacements 16 Marc Anthony McGinley 17 Anthony Thompson 18 Éamonn Doherty 19 Christy Toye 20 David Walsh 21 Hugh McFadden 22 Hugh McFadden 23 Leo McLoone 24 Gary McFadden 25 Ciarán McGinley 26 Eoin Bán Gallagher
Donegal to take this one by 3!
Good luck to Mayo today. Hoping they win
Safe travelling to all. Not confident, hope the lads put in a good performance later to prove m wrong.
Matchday..... can't wait
Looking forward to today, should be two good games
Mayo by 3 with at least one controversial incident
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 08, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
Safe travelling to all. Not confident, hope the lads put in a good performance later to prove m wrong.
Yeah, leave in good time and don't try to make up time on the road. Safe journey to all! Raining already in the west. Rain is supposed to head East as the day progresses. Hopefully it stay dry for all games.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2015, 08:51:04 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 08, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
Safe travelling to all. Not confident, hope the lads put in a good performance later to prove m wrong.
Yeah, leave in good time and don't try to make up time on the road. Safe journey to all! Raining already in the west. Rain is supposed to head East as the day progresses. Hopefully it stay dry for all games.
Still bone dry in East Mayo Bunk, there's still (slight) hope we won't get soaked!
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 08, 2015, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2015, 08:51:04 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 08, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
Safe travelling to all. Not confident, hope the lads put in a good performance later to prove m wrong.
Yeah, leave in good time and don't try to make up time on the road. Safe journey to all! Raining already in the west. Rain is supposed to head East as the day progresses. Hopefully it stay dry for all games.
Still bone dry in East Mayo Bunk, there's still (slight) hope we won't get soaked!
Pissing here in Ballyvary at the moment! Not a good sign for later on!
Scorchin in the north.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 07, 2015, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 07, 2015, 08:58:50 AM
Something that was posted on another thread:
QuoteWe'll be up against three counties from Ulster on Saturday
Just wondering if the Tyrone / Monaghan fans will be supporting their neighbours on Saturday?? I would have thought that they will as there wouldn't be much antagonism between Donegal and either of the others
We might scrap like cats amongst ourselves but when faced with a challenge from cocky southerners we usually present a united front ;D ;D ;D
We'll bring a few Basque Flags to make ye ''Northerners'' more at home with the enemy! :P
(http://img00.deviantart.net/f80f/i/2012/100/c/3/scottish_basque_flag_by_irishhighlander-d4vrijf.png)
Cracking day in Dublin
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 08, 2015, 11:15:57 AM
Cracking day in Dublin
plenty of rain forecast for later. hopefully it stays away
60k tickets sold already, more will be sold on the day (5-10k?) Should be a great atmosphere
Best of luck to all supporters travelling to Croker today. Enjoy your day in Dublin (although most of you are probably living here already ;)). It will be a great day for some and devastating for others but anyway stay safe.
Really looking forward to this one.
Hope it lives up to the hype.
I think Mayo will win by more than 3 points
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2015, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 07, 2015, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 07, 2015, 08:58:50 AM
Something that was posted on another thread:
QuoteWe'll be up against three counties from Ulster on Saturday
Just wondering if the Tyrone / Monaghan fans will be supporting their neighbours on Saturday?? I would have thought that they will as there wouldn't be much antagonism between Donegal and either of the others
We might scrap like cats amongst ourselves but when faced with a challenge from cocky southerners we usually present a united front ;D ;D ;D
We'll bring a few Basque Flags to make ye ''Northerners'' more at home with the enemy! :P
(http://img00.deviantart.net/f80f/i/2012/100/c/3/scottish_basque_flag_by_irishhighlander-d4vrijf.png)
That's class! :)
Red raping Mayo again.
This looks like a cracker. Really looking forward to seeing how the two FFs do.
Mayo need to get AOS out of full forward, totally under used in there.
Hard to say. He might win a lot of possession followed by frees against the blanket.
mayo are not man marking Murphy which is very strange
Big O`Se you be nearly better playing a midfielder against him at fullback, so strong in the air
Would be great if someone could keep the score updated for the benefit of those not watching it.
Oops, 6-4 to mayo
Quote from: Shrewdness on August 08, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Would be great if someone could keep the score updated for the benefit of those not watching it.
Perhaps go to RTE.ie and check there instead of coming here?
7-5 to Mayo 32mins gone
We'll that seems to be working.
And the big Monster finds the back of the net, Should be playing N Gallagher on him
Mighty goal by AOS.
Real good game. Mayo just better really.
Neilmcgee does less verbals against o'shea - he is some beast of a man.
Great time to score a goal could be a turning point in what was an evenly matched game.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 08, 2015, 06:42:55 PM
Great time to score a goal could be a turning point in what was an evenly matched game.
Literally the last kick of the half.
Great goal from AOS. Seems unstoppable this year.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 08, 2015, 06:26:19 PM
Big O`Se you be nearly better playing a midfielder against him at fullback, so strong in the air
Called it
OSe put Neil McGee on his hole not once but twice when he scored that goal and McGee is not a small man.
Fluke goal going for a point, and miskick it, 2-07 - 0-06 to Mayo
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 08, 2015, 07:00:39 PM
Fluke goal going for a point, and miskick it, 2-07 - 0-06 to Mayo
Yes a point attempt that dropped short.
Mishit point attempt goes in the net. All going Mayo's way.
Mayo have too much power in the key areas
Lot of Donegal players doing a right job of ruling themselves out of the All-Stars here.
Really looks like game over at 45 minutes.
Donegal have lost composure here.
End of the road for Donegal . 5/6 retirements now
Lacey still doesn't look particularly fit. Probably rushed back a little.
Very impressive, efficient football from Mayo. I can't think of one wrong option they've taken all day.
Impressed with Mayos discipline in fairness
Quote from: INDIANA on August 08, 2015, 07:07:57 PM
End of the road for Donegal . 5/6 retirements now
Would imagine the odds of seeing any more of Durkan, Gallagher, Toye, Colm McFadden, and Eamonn McGee and even Anthony Thompson (given his work situation) would be fairly remote.
Take them out of the Donegal squad and it's very hard to see them as serious All-Ireland contenders in the next while.
Expect a lot of people to pin hopes on the lads out of minor forgetting how long it normally takes to make the breakthrough to be a proper grown-up senior intercounty players nowadays.
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 08, 2015, 07:10:49 PM
Impressed with Mayos discipline in fairness
Yup that's why I'm think the odds of them doing something ulta-creative and innovative to balls things up against Dublin will skyrocket.
Mayo heading for another All Ireland final. You have to feel for them (Mayo that is)
Now Cillian O'Connor doing his best to rule himself out of the All-Star race.
Desperate second half ???? Cunning ploy from Mayo?
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 08, 2015, 07:22:21 PM
Desperate second half ???? Cunning ploy from Mayo?
Mayo gone full blanket so as not to concede goals/see the game out a large part of that I'd imagine.
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 08, 2015, 07:22:21 PM
Desperate second half ???? Cunning ploy from Mayo?
Mayo gone full blanket so as not to concede goals/see the game out a large part of that I'd imagine.
Doesn't explain the lax passing and missed points up front. Mayo have switched off.
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 06:44:11 PM
Great goal from AOS. Seems unstoppable this year.
Haha, some things never change, you foaming with excitement at the mouth of seeing a mayo jersey.
Mayo have missed alot, should won this by about 12pts
What Mayo player will make a balls of things now and pull someone down by the head ???
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Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 06:44:11 PM
Great goal from AOS. Seems unstoppable this year.
Haha, some things never change, you foaming with excitement at the mouth of seeing a mayo jersey.
Were you not foaming at the mouth earlier in the Tyrone V Monaghan thread
Andy Moran a tad greedy there, should either passed to the man inside or take his point, goal was never on
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What Mayo player will make a balls of things now and pull someone down by the head ???
Or hit someone
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 08, 2015, 07:31:17 PM
What Mayo player will make a balls of things now and pull someone down by the head ???
Or hit someone
And there ya go 8)
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 08, 2015, 07:32:40 PM
Andy Moran a tad greedy there, should either passed to the man inside or take his point, goal was never on
Couldn't help but think a Kerry forward wouldn't have been as selfish.
The two goals were killers. Very little excitement to that second half however if Mayo defend as well against Dublin they could reach another All Ireland final.
So Murphy tries his best to get a man sent off with game over and suceeds, Hardly a red card in my opinion, wouldnt give a yellow for it.
Well done Mayo. Could easily have won by a much larger margin. O'Shea's goal had a huge impact on this game and Keegan's attempt seemed to have knocked the stuffing out of Donegal. Hope all Mayo's poor shooting and decision making was got out of their system in that second half and they'll compete well with the Dubs! Daft sending off there. Ref had no choice.
Well done Mayo, looking forward to this semi now, genuinely feel Mayo can make the final
If Gilroy was Dublin manager Id feel a hell of alot more confident
Stop asking Jim about Mayo - we want to hear his thoughts on Donegal
Mark mc hugh caught out badly for the two goals. He was in a position to tackle for both but didn't do enough.
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 08, 2015, 07:40:37 PM
Stop asking Jim about Mayo - we want to hear his thoughts on Donegal
Would he be sick if Gallagher managed to land Sam without him................................... Id imagine so
Does the blanket side have serious structural flaws when it comes up against a half-back line on form, like today?
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 08, 2015, 07:43:36 PM
Does the blanket side have serious structural flaws when it comes up against a half-back line on form, like today?
Tiredness has structural flaws.........................Donegal looked deflated. Few retirements Id imagine
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Quote from: twohands!!! on August 08, 2015, 07:40:37 PM
Stop asking Jim about Mayo - we want to hear his thoughts on Donegal
Would he be sick if Gallagher managed to land Sam without him................................... Id imagine so
Yeah Donegal going out at his stage doesn't exactly do much to harm McGuinness's Messiah reputation.
Can anyone confirm if McGuinness actually referred to Gallagher by name on Sky at any stage?
Would be one hell of a trick to pull off?
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 08, 2015, 07:43:36 PM
Does the blanket side have serious structural flaws when it comes up against a half-back line on form, like today?
You need legs to do it. It's the end of the road.
I'm say Jim is going for a few pints on his own now to celebrate his Messiah like status
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 08, 2015, 07:35:53 PM
So Murphy tries his best to get a man sent off with game over and suceeds, Hardly a red card in my opinion, wouldnt give a yellow for it.
A definite red, a right hook to the jaw and not the face palm got him sent off. Incredibly stupid for the Mayo player. Murphy didn't dive on the ground so I'm not sure what you are on about.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 08, 2015, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 08, 2015, 07:43:36 PM
Does the blanket side have serious structural flaws when it comes up against a half-back line on form, like today?
You need legs to do it. It's the end of the road.
I'm say Jim is going for a few pints on his own now to celebrate his Messiah like status
I definitely think the small/concentrated nature of Donegal's squad (which is a massively legacy of McGuinness's) was a significant contribution to Donegal's tiredness. Look back to the start of the league and how Donegal's core players were pretty much all used from the get-go in the league. Compare that to Dublin and Kerry who rested a number of big players in the league.
As expected tbf
McFadden had his usual game these days & no personal battles won at all.
Tbh I thought both games were depressing enough to watch today
Rory kavanagh very under rated and massive loss too.
Congratulations to Syferus and all the Mayo lads on their victory
Quote from: Whitnail on August 08, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
As expected tbf
McFadden had his usual game these days & no personal battles won at all.
Tbh I thought both games were depressing enough to watch today
I was hoping that they would be more competitive for longer into the 2nd half. Mayo were home and hosed from a long way out and once Tyrone got the few points ahead Monaghan really struggling to land a (metaphorical) punch to make it tight down the home straight.
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
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Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
I mean the supporters, they have suffered more than most.
Went as expected. Keegan's fluke killed the game, although I think Mayo had the winning of it after O'Shea's goal anyway. But seven points down we had no choice but to leave the space at the back and Mayo really should have won by more - I'd be concerned about the number of easy chances they dropped short or into Durcan's hands, although I guess they at least got Keegan's goal from one! I thought we started trying to work a goal far too early and should have knocked over a few points to bring it back to four or five - we were doing this with 20 minutes to go!
End of the road, I would imagine, for at least some of Donegal's older players, and we should be prepared for a few years of rebuilding. Lacey didn't look fully fit today, but I suppose how would he? McBrearty was just crowded out by the time the ball would eventually come in, although he should still have had a couple of points with the chances he missed. Superb game from Murphy, with a few fine scores from play thrown in (can't believe there are still people about who doubt his scoring ability!). Overall, I thought we did all right, but Mayo are just a younger, more rested, and, overall, a better team right now.
I really would like to see Mayo finally go all the way, but will they? They won't get away with those missed chances against Dublin or Kerry, and maybe not even Tyrone. O'Shea is some player though. That goal was just sheer power and skill, and McGee didn't make it easy.
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Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
I mean the supporters, they have suffered more than most.
Don't you think the supporters of Leitrim or Sligo or a number of other teams would not gladly swap with them?
Wow, what a performance from Mayo!
Best midfield in the country ahead of Kerry and I'd anticipate a five point win for them against Dublin and who'd begrudge them?
Given the tiny panel Donegal have operated off, it's hard to see them coming back after this? Were the US & UK backers not around this year?
I'd quite like to hear from all those who ridiculed my suggestion that Donegal were not a talented side and McGuinness' system was the only reason for their success. It's surely obvious now to you that Murphy, McFadden et al aren't as good as they've been hyped up to be.
Murphy what?
as I said months ago:
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I strongly suspect Donegal will not be a top four team come the end of the year. They have only one truly outstanding footballer in Karl Lacey, and I think teams will be better prepared to counteract their dull system this year.
McGuinness leaving ended any genuine All-Ireland hopes for this bunch of players.
Only one outstanding player?
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as I said months ago:
Reply #9 on: May 09, 2015, 04:46:37 PM »
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I strongly suspect Donegal will not be a top four team come the end of the year. They have only one truly outstanding footballer in Karl Lacey, and I think teams will be better prepared to counteract their dull system this year.
McGuinness leaving ended any genuine All-Ireland hopes for this bunch of players.
Murphy is superior to Lacey. Time has just caught up with them. Lacey's injuries have ensured his athletic abilities aren't what they were
Lacey at his peak was the best in the country, but he looks finished now. Murphy is nowhere near the best player in Ireland as many claim. He can hit a long range free and fetch a high ball, but as a forward he's not in the same league as the likes of Cooper, McManus etc.
He's outstanding and would make any team in ireland. Best full forward about.
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Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
I mean the supporters, they have suffered more than most.
Don't you think the supporters of Leitrim or Sligo or a number of other teams would not gladly swap with them?
I have £30 on them, I couldn't give a shite about them or their supporters really. 8) (shit I feel bad about that now, I would be very happy for the likes of ballinaman and muppet et al if they win it).
Quote from: The Stallion on August 08, 2015, 08:32:44 PM
Lacey at his peak was the best in the country, but he looks finished now. Murphy is nowhere near the best player in Ireland as many claim. He can hit a long range free and fetch a high ball, but as a forward he's not in the same league as the likes of Cooper, McManus etc.
murphy is a different level altogether to McManus. You were not watching the games today to arrive at that conclusion about Murphy
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Murphy was poor today, McManus was very good.
Murphy rarely scores heavily from play, and gets away with an awful lot of nasty fouling and mouthing off.
Quote from: moysider on August 08, 2015, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Ref handed you 2012 and you let James Horan & his team of analysts off scott free in 2013 for not realising Dublin had two incapicatated players on the field for the last ten minutes.
Foot perfect by the Mayo management team to date, today being especially impressive in the way they setup their team. A lot of football to be played yet but they do seem to have more tactical nous than the previous regime.
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Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Moydider, Keane threw a punch Murphy didn't. That why he was sent off. Pure stupid.
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Quote from: moysider on August 08, 2015, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Ref handed you 2012 and you let James Horan & his team of analysts off scott free in 2013 for not realising Dublin had two incapicatated players on the field for the last ten minutes.
We we 10/11 up at one stage in 2012 and should have won pulling up. As for 2013 so what. What happened. Are you trying to justify us having to play another semi in Dublin and all the disadvantages that gives us?
Very impressed by that Mayo performance. Pace and power and no shortage of skill in all sectors. Would love to get down for Dublin match, could be a cracker.
End of the road for my near neighbours and ancestral brethren. Not sure how many of the older heads will call it a day. Massive commitment
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Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Ah! the excuses already.
Mayo can and should win the AI this year.
The difficulty of Mayo football is they are afraid to admit to being favourites for anything. Being favourites brings pressure.
Same pressure to do the right thing with the ball in the 65th minute of an AI Final.
Mayo have an excellent record against Dublin in semi finals. They are favourites for this game because they are very strong in areas in Dublin are weak.
It's a big ask to beat Dublin and probably Kerry at this level but life is full of challenges and it's how you deal with them that determines your legacy.
So instead of making excuse lads grow a pair of balls would be a start
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Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Ref handed you 2012 and you let James Horan & his team of analysts off scott free in 2013 for not realising Dublin had two incapicatated players on the field for the last ten minutes.
We we 10/11 up at one stage in 2012 and should have won pulling up. As for 2013 so what. What happened. Are you trying to justify us having to play another semi in Dublin and all the disadvantages that gives us?
But but but you guys went nuts last year when you had to play a replay in Limerick.
CP brings the best out of all good teams and has done so since the year dot.
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Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Ref handed you 2012 and you let James Horan & his team of analysts off scott free in 2013 for not realising Dublin had two incapicatated players on the field for the last ten minutes.
We we 10/11 up at one stage in 2012 and should have won pulling up. As for 2013 so what. What happened. Are you trying to justify us having to play another semi in Dublin and all the disadvantages that gives us?
the free count was 3:1 in mayos favour in 13 go figure
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Quote from: heffo on August 08, 2015, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 08, 2015, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Ref handed you 2012 and you let James Horan & his team of analysts off scott free in 2013 for not realising Dublin had two incapicatated players on the field for the last ten minutes.
As for 2013 so what. What happened.
You lost an AI by a point because a management team held in huge regard by Mayo supporters didn't realise Dublin had two players out of 15 unable to walk
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Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Moydider, Keane threw a punch Murphy didn't. That why he was sent off. Pure stupid.
The both slapped each other. Murphy threw first and caught Keane in the neck. Keane did what AOXI didn't do all day, he reacted to the provocation and got sent off. It may be rescinded when they get a look at it, but I wouldn't be certain of that. McBrearty had actually started all that niggle earlier, and got booked for it, while Cafferkey was marshalling everything expertly. He kept the others from reacting.
Anyway.....
Fair play to the management, they got it spot on. Barry Moran went to midfield for every Donegal kickout and regardless of who won it, he turned and sprinted back in front of Murphy to protect against the high ball. He made a huge difference and allowed the half backs to play our running game. Midfield and the half forwards were very effective and the reality is that the game was over from a long way out. Oddly for us, it was hard to see a Donegal goal coming even though they sent Gallagher in as well as Murphy for the last 15 mins or so.
The next game will be a completely different type of test. Donegal's pace and movement didn't match ours today, but Dublin's will.
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Quote from: charlieTully on August 08, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Moydider, Keane threw a punch Murphy didn't. That why he was sent off. Pure stupid.
The both slapped each other. Murphy threw first and caught Keane in the neck. Keane did what AOXI didn't do all day, he reacted to the provocation and got sent off. It may be rescinded when they get a look at it, but I wouldn't be certain of that. McBreary had actually started all that niggle earlier, and got booked for it, while Cafferkey was marshalling everything expertly. He kept the others from reacting.
Anyway.....
Fair play to the management, they got it spot on. Barry Moran went to midfield for every Donegal kickout and regardless of who won it, he turned and sprinted back in front of Murphy to protect against the high ball. He made a huge difference and allowed the half backs to play our running game. Midfield and the half forwards were very effective and the reality is that the game was over from a long way out. Oddly for us, it was hard to see a Donegal goal coming even though they sent Gallagher in as well as Murphy for the last 15 mins or so.
The next game will be a completely different type of test. Donegal's pace and movement didn't match ours today, but Dublin's will.
Take a bow Mayo, you were sublime at times, I hope you go on now and win the thing.
Dublin wont rest easy the night, slack enough against Fermanagh and to be fair Mayo would destroy that Fermanagh team.
Should be a cracker but I wouldn't read anything into the Fermanagh game, nothing more than a day out for them and the Dubs tend to take the foot of the pedal, very hard one to call. PP any odds up yet?
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Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
I mean the supporters, they have suffered more than most.
Don't you think the supporters of Leitrim or Sligo or a number of other teams would not gladly swap with them?
I have £30 on them, I couldn't give a shite about them or their supporters really. 8) (shit I feel bad about that now, I would be very happy for the likes of ballinaman and muppet et al if they win it).
I'll be happy enough for myself thanks! :D
What odds did you get us at?
I believe i predicted an easy Mayo win and suggested to start up the Mayo v Dublin win, last weekend. Well can someone please start the Mayo v Kerry all Ireland final thread now as I am convinced that's what's in store now. Kerry would be a savage test but I believe their defence could be suspect. As for the dubs they will be stone cold next time out and I believe Mayo will win by 3 or 4 points. Well done today and it's time to bring it across the Shannon lads.
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Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
I mean the supporters, they have suffered more than most.
Don't you think the supporters of Leitrim or Sligo or a number of other teams would not gladly swap with them?
I have £30 on them, I couldn't give a shite about them or their supporters really. 8) (shit I feel bad about that now, I would be very happy for the likes of ballinaman and muppet et al if they win it).
I'll be happy enough for myself thanks! :D
What odds did you get us at?
13/2. after watching Mayos last three games im getting the buzz. its on.
It'll be a Mayo v Kerry final, I'm pretty confident of that. Kerry's bench is awesome and I'm afraid that's why they'll likely win the final.
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Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
I mean the supporters, they have suffered more than most.
Don't you think the supporters of Leitrim or Sligo or a number of other teams would not gladly swap with them?
I have £30 on them, I couldn't give a shite about them or their supporters really. 8) (shit I feel bad about that now, I would be very happy for the likes of ballinaman and muppet et al if they win it).
I'll be happy enough for myself thanks! :D
What odds did you get us at?
13/2. after watching Mayos last three games im getting the buzz. its on.
Is any actually prepared for what might happen if Mayo actually do it and win it the all Ireland? 😂
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I'll be happy enough for myself thanks! :D
What odds did you get us at?
13/2. after watching Mayos last three games im getting the buzz. its on.
If we win it beating Donegal, Dublin and Kerry in the one year, they should give us about 3 Sam Maguires.
I still think Murphy the best about but you will ever get the best out of him playing him at wingfoward, Midfield, the defence, the lad need to play at full forward and stay there for a few years, the mouthing and constant fouling, he would need to look at, he gets away with alot. The incident today with the Mayo lad with the game over was typical, a strong push off on a man coming out ,not even looking at him and he got a reaction. Your going to get sent off that that in this day and age you may as well make it count.
Aidan O'Se's goal
Big thing for me is the utter lack of pressure on the ball coming in - Tom Cunniffe got an awful lot of time to look up and make the kick under close to zero pressure. Almost symbolic of how tired Donegal were today.
There was a very interview with Malachy O'Rourke yesterday and he was asked whether playing in Division 1 was beneficial and he said the big thing you get used to playing Division 1 sides constantly is that any mistake you make is nearly guaranteed to be punished. Here you had about 4 Donegal players with 10 metres but none of them showed any sort of urgency in putting pressure on Cunniffe.
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 08, 2015, 10:18:03 PM
I still think Murphy the best about but you will ever get the best out of him playing him at wingfoward, Midfield, the defence, the lad need to play at full forward and stay there for a few years, the mouthing and constant fouling, he would need to look at, he gets away with alot. The incident today with the Mayo lad with the game over was typical, a strong push off on a man coming out ,not even looking at him and he got a reaction. Your going to get sent off that that in this day and age you may as well make it count.
3 sendings off in the league meaning he missed one game - No-one else in the country missed a match because of this.
He also had had one tackle in the Ulster final that was very close to a black card and he picked up a yellow that was not that far away from a black in the Galway game.
Striking or attempting to strike is a red card offence and he was already on a yellow today.
In terms of cards picked up he would look to be the clear winner of the dirtiest player of the year award.
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It'll be a Mayo v Kerry final, I'm pretty confident of that. Kerry's bench is awesome and I'm afraid that's why they'll likely win the final.
I'm saving this for the 31st
To beat the drum one last time the Donegal subs today.
Subs:
Martin McElhinney for Toye (HT),
Anthony Thompson for N McGee (38)
Leo McLoone for MacNiallais (39)
They made the subs early but they only made 3 in total.
Leaving 6 players (including the sub keeper) on the bench, really displays a lack of faith in the quantity of any possible replacements.
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Murphy was poor today, McManus was very good.
Murphy rarely scores heavily from play, and gets away with an awful lot of nasty fouling and mouthing off.
Complete and utter nonsense. Murphy hit three superb scores from play and was the only Donegal forward to consistently win any ball going in.
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Murphy was poor today, McManus was very good.
Murphy rarely scores heavily from play, and gets away with an awful lot of nasty fouling and mouthing off.
Complete and utter nonsense. Murphy hit three superb scores from play and was the only Donegal forward to consistently win any ball going in.
Agreed. Quality of posters on this website has unfortunately plummeted
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Murphy was poor today, McManus was very good.
Murphy rarely scores heavily from play, and gets away with an awful lot of nasty fouling and mouthing off.
Complete and utter nonsense. Murphy hit three superb scores from play and was the only Donegal forward to consistently win any ball going in.
Agreed. Quality of posters on this website has unfortunately plummeted
It really went down-hill when Dont Matter left Indy.
That's what I'm talking about and wanted to see - many years ago. Tactically, the best we ve ever done. Management nailed it. If we had set up like this under Horan we would have won the whole shebang already. H&C have to get great creds for that. Only for a getting a bit sloppy on frees and a few lazy finishes it would have been very cushy. But it was more important that we kept a clean sheet.
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That's what I'm talking about and wanted to see - many years ago. Tactically, the best we ve ever done. Management nailed it. If we had set up like this under Horan we would have won the whole shebang already. H&C have to get great creds for that. Only for a getting a bit sloppy on frees and a few lazy finishes it would have been very cushy. But it was more important that we kept a clean sheet.
they will have to be on top of their game the next day
I'd bring out O'Shea for the first 15 mins to put huge pressure on Cluxton's kickouts as Dublin will be figuring out all sorts of tactics to thwart O'Shea inside.
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That's what I'm talking about and wanted to see - many years ago. Tactically, the best we ve ever done. Management nailed it. If we had set up like this under Horan we would have won the whole shebang already. H&C have to get great creds for that. Only for a getting a bit sloppy on frees and a few lazy finishes it would have been very cushy. But it was more important that we kept a clean sheet.
they will have to be on top of their game the next day
I'd bring out O'Shea for the first 15 mins to put huge pressure on Cluxton's kickouts as Dublin will be figuring out all sorts of tactics to thwart O'Shea inside.
I bloody wouldn't!
While the game was still alive we had players like Doc, Kevin Mc and Cillian getting a lot more space inside the 45 than Donegal would normally allow anyone.
The Donegal attack played very narrow though. Barry in front of Murphy worked well because of this. Dublin will play a much wider game. Still if we can keep the goals out, we might have a chance.
Mayo had the 2 Quigleys from Fermanagh they win an all-ireland, its funny they way 1 very good forward can be the different between a good and a great team
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That's what I'm talking about and wanted to see - many years ago. Tactically, the best we ve ever done. Management nailed it. If we had set up like this under Horan we would have won the whole shebang already. H&C have to get great creds for that. Only for a getting a bit sloppy on frees and a few lazy finishes it would have been very cushy. But it was more important that we kept a clean sheet.
they will have to be on top of their game the next day
I'd bring out O'Shea for the first 15 mins to put huge pressure on Cluxton's kickouts as Dublin will be figuring out all sorts of tactics to thwart O'Shea inside.
Don't matter.
The whole country will want a Kerry/Dub final and Mr. Humpries might get a new. updated, edition of his book going.
If it's anywhere fair from now out both games should be played neutral. Kerry and Tyrone in CP probably fine. Mayo v Dublin in CP no good at all. If that happens .....
Mayo very impressive today but their full back line and keeper looked dodgy under the high ball. His kick outs weren't great either. Does neil mcgee go off much or was it just today cause he was being thrown round like a rag doll. Stay in and face the music.
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Does neil mcgee go off much or was it just today cause he was being thrown round like a rag doll. Stay in and face the music.
What a small mean minded post.
Sad to see the end of this team.
The legs just weren't there & while I wonder a little about the preparation there is no doubt that many of these players will pack it in now.
While today's performance was poor, I for one am proud of them & thank them for all the pleasure they have given me.
Well done to Mayo, I hope ye go on now & seal the deal.
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Mayo very impressive today but their full back line and keeper looked dodgy under the high ball. His kick outs weren't great either. Does neil mcgee go off much or was it just today cause he was being thrown round like a rag doll. Stay in and face the music.
McGee got a knee in the back when Durcan came strongly for a high ball.
Mayo had two keepers today. Which one bothered you?
Each had one kickout go over the sideline but I thought they both kicked out very well. We won almost all of ours and won probably at least half of Donegal's kickouts. TBH this was as big a difference between the sides as anything else.
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Mayo very impressive today but their full back line and keeper looked dodgy under the high ball. His kick outs weren't great either. Does neil mcgee go off much or was it just today cause he was being thrown round like a rag doll. Stay in and face the music.
Wrong X 2.
Mayo had 2 keepers and stats would show that their kick outs were good. The first keeper is especially good under high ball.
Niel Mcgee got walloped between his keeper Durcan and Aidan O Shea under a high ball. He hot hit from both sides and wouldn;t be surprisesdif he had a touch of concussion and maybe a few cracked ribs as well!
A bit of respect. That lad is a warrior!
McGee was the wrong match up for Donegal on O`Se, i think if Donegal had more than a week to prepare, they tried Gallagher at full back, height was needed to counter Big Aidan
Neil Gallagher would be nowhere near mobile enough to mark O'Shea.
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Neil Gallagher would be nowhere near mobile enough to mark O'Shea.
And who would have played midfield? Take Gallagher out of there today and it would have been no contest.
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Mayo fans really deserve an AI, I hope to God they win it.
They'll only deserve it if they win it.
Bullshit Sy. We face odds others don t.
How in God's name did the officials send off Keane when Murphy was the aggressor. It ll be rescinded but not the point. Yon ref would have rode us if it was anyway tight. Unless Keane hit Murphy off camera with a sledge that decision was a joke.
Now this will be the fifth AI semi v Dublin that I can recall. All the previous were played as home games for Dublin. In fairness this needs to be played in Mayo or neutral like Limerick!!
A big hullaboloo was made about giving Sligo fair play a few weeks ago so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
CP is too much a + for Dublin. Add in a homer ref and we d have to be 10+ a better team to have a chance.
Moydider, Keane threw a punch Murphy didn't. That why he was sent off. Pure stupid.
The both slapped each other. Murphy threw first and caught Keane in the neck. Keane did what AOXI didn't do all day, he reacted to the provocation and got sent off. It may be rescinded when they get a look at it, but I wouldn't be certain of that. McBrearty had actually started all that niggle earlier, and got booked for it, while Cafferkey was marshalling everything expertly. He kept the others from reacting.....
My impression echoes an earlier impression expressed in this thread. It was added-on time, donegal had well and truly lost the game, yet Murphy provoked a reaction, he got some reaction, he exaggerated his pain and emotional torment and went pleading to the ref.
Whether keane's punishment was deserved is besides the point, Murphy had no moral business being involved and a straight red has consequences for Keane who has to be gutted at missing out on the semi final, and just what joy is it for Murphy to have orchestrated that?
How many f**king steps was Keegan allowed for his goal?
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How many f**king steps was Keegan allowed for his goal?
Maybe, but he was absolutely outstanding today. He completely dominated Odrán MacNiallais and drove Mayo forward time after time after time. As complete a performance from a half back as I've seen - a joy to watch. Mayo impressed me today but to be fair Donegal looked like a team that had come a long hard road and there looked like a lot of tired legs out there especially lads like Lacey and McFadden. It's going to be tough for them lads to go again next year.
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How many f**king steps was Keegan allowed for his goal?
Maybe, but he was absolutely outstanding today. He completely dominated Odrán MacNiallais and drove Mayo forward time after time after time. As complete a performance from a half back as I've seen - a joy to watch. Mayo impressed me today but to be fair Donegal looked like a team that had come a long hard road and there looked like a lot of tired legs out there especially lads like Lacey and McFadden. It's going to be tough for them lads to go again next year.
He took 7-8 steps from my count. It shouldn't have stood.
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How many f**king steps was Keegan allowed for his goal?
Maybe, but he was absolutely outstanding today. He completely dominated Odrán MacNiallais and drove Mayo forward time after time after time. As complete a performance from a half back as I've seen - a joy to watch. Mayo impressed me today but to be fair Donegal looked like a team that had come a long hard road and there looked like a lot of tired legs out there especially lads like Lacey and McFadden. It's going to be tough for them lads to go again next year.
He took 7-8 steps from my count. It shouldn't have stood.
In Ulster you'd never get more than three steps before you're rugby tackled so Marty assumed he didn't need to county steps.
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How many f**king steps was Keegan allowed for his goal?
Maybe, but he was absolutely outstanding today. He completely dominated Odrán MacNiallais and drove Mayo forward time after time after time. As complete a performance from a half back as I've seen - a joy to watch. Mayo impressed me today but to be fair Donegal looked like a team that had come a long hard road and there looked like a lot of tired legs out there especially lads like Lacey and McFadden. It's going to be tough for them lads to go again next year.
He took 7-8 steps from my count. It shouldn't have stood.
In Ulster you'd never get more than three steps before you're rugby tackled so Marty assumed he didn't need to county steps.
Marty who?
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Quote from: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 01:38:19 AM
How many f**king steps was Keegan allowed for his goal?
Maybe, but he was absolutely outstanding today. He completely dominated Odrán MacNiallais and drove Mayo forward time after time after time. As complete a performance from a half back as I've seen - a joy to watch. Mayo impressed me today but to be fair Donegal looked like a team that had come a long hard road and there looked like a lot of tired legs out there especially lads like Lacey and McFadden. It's going to be tough for them lads to go again next year.
Some of those lads are surely going to retire now. That's a 3-5 year rebuild job for Donegal . That hip injury has debilitated Lacey a lot.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 09, 2015, 12:16:21 AM
McGee was the wrong match up for Donegal on O`Se, i think if Donegal had more than a week to prepare, they tried Gallagher at full back, height was needed to counter Big Aidan
I can't agree with you on this one weasel.
I hugely enjoyed the battle between the two of them which, goal apart, was pretty even.
O'Sé is a superb full forward & anyone who does any better on him than Neil McGee did yesterday is going to have played some game.
I'd say Jim Gavin will have a few sleepless nights over the next couple of weeks!!
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Murphy was poor today, McManus was very good.
Murphy rarely scores heavily from play, and gets away with an awful lot of nasty fouling and mouthing off.
Complete and utter nonsense. Murphy hit three superb scores from play and was the only Donegal forward to consistently win any ball going in.
Nail on head. After watching the dross served up by Tyrone and Monaghan it was a pleasure to watch Murphy (and the O'Se/McGee first half battle). First time I have seen him live in a few years; his work rate is outrageous (tv doesn't do him enough credit) and his ability at full forward to win low ball, high ball, dirty ball and bad ball is different class.
The only pity is how little we see of the man at full forward.
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Murphy was poor today, McManus was very good.
Murphy rarely scores heavily from play, and gets away with an awful lot of nasty fouling and mouthing off.
Complete and utter nonsense. Murphy hit three superb scores from play and was the only Donegal forward to consistently win any ball going in.
Nail on head. After watching the dross served up by Tyrone and Monaghan it was a pleasure to watch Murphy (and the O'Se/McGee first half battle). First time I have seen him live in a few years; his work rate is outrageous (tv doesn't do him enough credit) and his ability at full forward to win low ball, high ball, dirty ball and bad ball is different class.
The only pity is how little we see of the man at full forward.
Irrespective of the last ten mins in the tyrone monaghan gam it was hardly dross. Some fantastic scores hit by both teams.
Unfortunately all the good stuff from that is lost in the general and widespread disgust at Tyrone's antics.
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Murphy was poor today, McManus was very good.
Murphy rarely scores heavily from play, and gets away with an awful lot of nasty fouling and mouthing off.
Complete and utter nonsense. Murphy hit three superb scores from play and was the only Donegal forward to consistently win any ball going in.
Nail on head. After watching the dross served up by Tyrone and Monaghan it was a pleasure to watch Murphy (and the O'Se/McGee first half battle). First time I have seen him live in a few years; his work rate is outrageous (tv doesn't do him enough credit) and his ability at full forward to win low ball, high ball, dirty ball and bad ball is different class.
The only pity is how little we see of the man at full forward.
Irrespective of the last ten mins in the tyrone monaghan gam it was hardly dross. Some fantastic scores hit by both teams.
Dross being an exaggeration but for an All Ireland quarter final, the athmosphere was terrible and regardless of the high quality scores, I personally thought it was a poor game even before the crap in last 10 mins started. With 10/15 mins to go and 5 points down Monaghan continued to retreat 14 men into their own half. Hard to believe.
Out of the 4 quarter finals, only the first 40/45 minutes of Donegal Mayo had anything to savour.
First of all, if there's any Mayo ST holders here, let me apologise for shouting like a lunatic yesterday. Wasn't confident beforehand, nor throughout the first half until Aidan O'Shea got the goal. I felt more relaxed then. Wish I relaxed on the shouting though! Voice not back to normal yet :D
Am as well to add on to this reply than start another one. I wasn't confident in the first half, even though I was impressed with how Mayo set up yesterday. I thought that initially when Barry started that he might be at full forward and that AOS would be given a free role to move in and out as the case may be. Fair play to the management though for setting up like that. However, they will need to have a different defensive ploy for the Dubs.
Our backs were very good. Cafferkey did well enough on Murphy, but Murphy is some colossus of a player (despite his provocation at the end) that he was still hard to handle. Higgins and the rest were brilliant. Boyle went as sweeper every time Barry went out to midfield and put in a solid defensive shift too. Keegan seemed to be back to his marauding best yesterday. Two great points in the first half and a great goal in the second half - that's enough to get man of the match for me any day, especially from a half back! I also thought we dominated the middle of the field. Parsons played well as did Seamie, while Big Barry did a good job on the kickouts as well. Vaughan had a good game too but it was a pull down and a black card too for him. No complaints about that one. As for the forwards, I thought Diarmuid struggled yesterday, he just seemed to lack a bit of confidence in himself, as did Cillian, he had a well below par performance, at least both have another day to rectify the problem. AOS struggled early on but once he got the goal his confidence seemed to rise too. I also thought McLoughlin had his best day since the 2012 semi final. He didn't put a foot wrong all day.
I thought the subs did ok. Patrick Durcan fluffed his chance badly but hopefully he will learn from the mistake and develop into a top wingback. Andy scored a beauty of a point and settled the nerves as they ahd hit a few other short balls into the keeper's hands, and a few wides too IIRC. Keane was unlucky to be sent off in my humble opinion. Murphy instigated it and I don't think Keane threw a punch at all, more just raised his hands and gave him a tipín in the face. Still though, Murphy mustn't be as hard as we made out to be if that made him go wailing for Keane to be given a straight red. I hope it's rescinded.
As Pat Holmes might say it was a very, very good day for Mayo, and kudos to the management team for setting up right.
Lee Keegan was fantastic, could become an all time great if Mayo ever get over the line. What age is he?
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McGee was the wrong match up for Donegal on O`Se, i think if Donegal had more than a week to prepare, they tried Gallagher at full back, height was needed to counter Big Aidan
I can't agree with you on this one weasel.
I hugely enjoyed the battle between the two of them which, goal apart, was pretty even.
O'Sé is a superb full forward & anyone who does any better on him than Neil McGee did yesterday is going to have played some game.
I'd say Jim Gavin will have a few sleepless nights over the next couple of weeks!!
Great battle between McGee and o se. I don't know what more people expect from a full back.
From being at the game could see Murphys work rate is something else.
I was very impressed with Lee Keegan yesterday. Odhran was completely anonymous and keegans contribution was immense. I thought Frank mcglynn was excellent too, up and down the field. Mark mchugh looked a bit off and allowed Mayo a couple of kick outs due to poor concentration. Not much tenacity shown by him yesterday compared to the likes of McGlynn, McGee and Murphy.
Well done Mayo, fully expected them to win after watching us lose to both teams in the championship this season. It's a strange one - with the best corner back in the game, I'd still say mayos full back line still don't fill me with confidence
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 09, 2015, 12:03:43 PM
First of all, if there's any Mayo ST holders here, let me apologise for shouting like a lunatic yesterday. Wasn't confident beforehand, nor throughout the first half until Aidan O'Shea got the goal. I felt more relaxed then. Wish I relaxed on the shouting though! Voice not back to normal yet :D
A common GAA affliction - the post match sore throat.
Breakouts also tends to occur after close club championship games especially if they are local derbies.
Recommended solution is to drink copious pints of porter.
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Quote from: haze on August 09, 2015, 10:28:06 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 08, 2015, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: The Stallion on August 08, 2015, 08:55:07 PM
Murphy was poor today, McManus was very good.
Murphy rarely scores heavily from play, and gets away with an awful lot of nasty fouling and mouthing off.
Complete and utter nonsense. Murphy hit three superb scores from play and was the only Donegal forward to consistently win any ball going in.
Nail on head. After watching the dross served up by Tyrone and Monaghan it was a pleasure to watch Murphy (and the O'Se/McGee first half battle). First time I have seen him live in a few years; his work rate is outrageous (tv doesn't do him enough credit) and his ability at full forward to win low ball, high ball, dirty ball and bad ball is different class.
The only pity is how little we see of the man at full forward.
Irrespective of the last ten mins in the tyrone monaghan gam it was hardly dross. Some fantastic scores hit by both teams.
Dross being an exaggeration but for an All Ireland quarter final, the athmosphere was terrible and regardless of the high quality scores, I personally thought it was a poor game even before the crap in last 10 mins started. With 10/15 mins to go and 5 points down Monaghan continued to retreat 14 men into their own half. Hard to believe.
Out of the 4 quarter finals, only the first 40/45 minutes of Donegal Mayo had anything to savour.
Tyrone v Monaghan was best and most competitive of the four quarter finals and even then it was far from a classic. The two Mayo goals killed the game dead it was almost as Donegal said to themselves eight down we don't have the energy left for a fightback.
Hopefully from a neutral stand point the two semi finals and final are good viewing, to be honest the lack of quality games is disappointing and it was same last year.
Great win on Saturday night. Fair play to the lads for coming back again this year, that takes some belief and mental strength which is unimaginable.
We are looking a nice bit better this year than last both in condition and tactically and hopefully the improvement will continue. Poor 2nd half but I'd prefer a 2nd half like that then one where we are leaking goals.
Again the lads on the line got their tactics spot on. Very surprised with Donegals kick out tactics. I don't think Durcan has recovered from last years blunder.
In fairness the whole system is poor / unfair when you see the route Donegal had to take and the teams they have met so far, we looked far fresher then them.
The first match was very poor and the flock of pigeons in the Jones road corner were a gauge of this.
Great to get the win, the goals we got came at crucial stages and really killed the game. Delighted not to concede a goal, from what I remember, Donegal only had two chances for a goal - one saved by Clarke and the other blocked by Barry.
I thought all the backs including Barry played well. Keane was stupid to get sent off even if it was only for the lightest of slaps. Keegan was motm for me. Actually, who won motm on Sky?
Midfield were very good – why did SOS come off?? Just cos he was knackered?
I thought the forwards generally did ok. AOS, Doc and McLoughlin were very good. The two O'Connors were only so-do. Great point from Andy when he came on but he fluffed a goal chance by not passing it. Good point from Freeman as well although I'm not convinced by him
Overall, a very good performance and H&C will be happy with it. I have to admit I was fairly sceptical when they were appointed but they've done very well so far. Dublin will be big step up in class though
Maigh Eo abú
I have a feeling Mayo may just do it this year. That's an impressive win, and they will not fear the Dubs. If they get to an All Ireland Final, even against possibly Kerry, I think they'll do it this time. I hope they do.
Couldn't understand why donegal wouldnt push up on the mayo kickouts. Mayo did push up and forced durkan to go long. Mayo utterly dominant in midfield. I thought parsons was excellent along with Barry o se. Mayo look the part. Dublin will be a more difficult encounter but you would have to fancy mayo.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 10, 2015, 11:22:53 AM
I have a feeling Mayo may just do it this year. That's an impressive win, and they will not fear the Dubs. If they get to an All Ireland Final, even against possibly Kerry, I think they'll do it this time. I hope they do.
So do I cos ive money riding on them!
Quote from: grounded on August 10, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Couldn't understand why donegal wouldnt push up on the mayo kickouts. Mayo did push up and forced durkan to go long. Mayo utterly dominant in midfield. I thought parsons was excellent along with Barry o se. Mayo look the part. Dublin will be a more difficult encounter but you would have to fancy mayo.
Crazy in my opinion. Their one goal chance in the first half came from about the only kickout they won cleanly and our lads were all caught on the front foot.
I hope the Dubs do the same, but I doubt they will.
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 01:46:37 PM
Quote from: grounded on August 10, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Couldn't understand why donegal wouldnt push up on the mayo kickouts. Mayo did push up and forced durkan to go long. Mayo utterly dominant in midfield. I thought parsons was excellent along with Barry o se. Mayo look the part. Dublin will be a more difficult encounter but you would have to fancy mayo.
Crazy in my opinion. Their one goal chance in the first half came from about the only kickout they won cleanly and our lads were all caught on the front foot.
I hope the Dubs do the same, but I doubt they will.
I was constantly asking that... were they worried about Mayo dominating the air maybe and thought they had a batter chance of turning them over in defence?
Either way what they did didn't work. Yeah freshness was maybe a problem with the age profile of Donegal higher than Mayo's but them's the breaks and Donegal knew the size of the challenge facing them.
You'd have to say Mayo and Kerry are the form teams at the minute having had at least 1 tough game each at this stage compared to Dublin's none. Both strong tactically with exceptional midfields and a proper target man up front (although Donaghy would want to start showing some form). Should they meet it would be a great occasion so long as Mayo don't get caught in the headlights again but I think this team are too seasoned for that now and will give it a proper go.
QuoteWith Mayo slight favourites for the game at 8/11, most onlookers find it hard to separate the two teams, Mortimer is no different, "It's a very tough one to call. We haven't seen enough of Mayo to say that they'll win it one way or another. If they can get two goals I'd fancy Mayo to do it, if they don't it will be a lot more difficult for them. - See more at: https://beanbagsports.com/blog/2015/08/05/conor-mortimer-there-is-a-big-issue-in-the-gaa/#sthash.sTDfftsK.dpuf
A belated congratulations to Mayo and the best of luck to them against Dublin.
Nowhere I'd really point to for us ... Mayo were a bit better than us at pretty much every single aspect of the game.
Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2015, 02:45:47 PM
QuoteWith Mayo slight favourites for the game at 8/11, most onlookers find it hard to separate the two teams, Mortimer is no different, "It's a very tough one to call. We haven't seen enough of Mayo to say that they'll win it one way or another. If they can get two goals I'd fancy Mayo to do it, if they don't it will be a lot more difficult for them. - See more at: https://beanbagsports.com/blog/2015/08/05/conor-mortimer-there-is-a-big-issue-in-the-gaa/#sthash.sTDfftsK.dpuf
A genius.
Any word on what he thinks the weather will be like this winter?
Quote from: StephenC on August 10, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
A belated congratulations to Mayo and the best of luck to them against Dublin.
Nowhere I'd really point to for us ... Mayo were a bit better than us at pretty much every single aspect of the game.
Yep. Where now for us I wonder?
Even if all the lads stay, we are hardly going to win Ulster, never mind compete for an AI, next year with Monaghan and what looks like a resurgent Tyrone about.
Quote from: J70 on August 10, 2015, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 10, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
A belated congratulations to Mayo and the best of luck to them against Dublin.
Nowhere I'd really point to for us ... Mayo were a bit better than us at pretty much every single aspect of the game.
Yep. Where now for us I wonder?
Even if all the lads stay, we are hardly going to win Ulster, never mind compete for an AI, next year with Monaghan and what looks like a resurgent Tyrone about.
It's a big question all right. A lot of lads are at that point where they'll be thinking of hanging up the boots. Some of them have already made the decision and I wouldn't be surprised if they all go together. Pappa, Eamonn, Neil, Colm, Christy. I wouldn't be surprised if they all pack it in.
In one way, that could be the best thing for us - enter "rebuilding" mode, lower expectations, bring though some more U21s and minors and look to build over the next 3-4 years.
No matter what, something needs to change - the core playing group, the tactics, the management ...
McFadden and Toye have been there since 2002. Lacey, Durcan and Eamon McGee since 2004/5. Neil Gallagher must be the same. Is there another team with that many first choice that long around?
Even Neil McGee and Thompson made their debuts a decade ago, with McGlynn and Murphy close behind.
Quote from: J70 on August 10, 2015, 07:21:40 PM
McFadden and Toye have been there since 2002. Lacey, Durcan and Eamon McGee since 2004/5. Neil Gallagher must be the same. Is there another team with that many first choice that long around?
Even Neil McGee and Thompson made their debuts a decade ago, with McGlynn and Murphy close behind.
Murphy almost a decade ago?
Good solid professional performance from Mayo on Saturday. Management who have taken a lot a flak took a gamble with Barry Moran and it paid off. Goals either side of half time killed the game.
A big factor in Donegals apparent lack of energy has to be attributed to their already heavy schedule of games. Games against Tyrone, Armagh, Derry, Monaghan and Galway is a big difference from playing just Galway and Sligo! With such a tight squad, Donegal have seen injuries mount and players not rested in games.
Donegal has not become an average side overnight. Just the (ridiculous) fixture list caught up with them. There seems to be calls for Retirements and blooding of Minors and Under 21's. If I was Gallagher (providing he's still at the helm) I'd wait for a few weeks before accepting retirements. There are still a good couple of the older lads who have something to offer.
Besides all, this Donegal side owes nothing 3 Anglo/Celt Cups and an AI are nothing to be scoffed at. A great group that has given Donegal great pride over the last 5 years.
As for ourselves, well today means nothing. Yes it's nice to get to an AI semi-final and to beat a decent (if currently out of form) Donegal side, but we've been here before and to the later stage. Five in a row Connacht titles and the title of top 4 team mean nothing without the big Canister! I know there are two potentially tough games left but this won't get any easier next year to claim the top prize. The time is now!
Quote from: J70 on August 10, 2015, 07:21:40 PM
McFadden and Toye have been there since 2002. Lacey, Durcan and Eamon McGee since 2004/5. Neil Gallagher must be the same. Is there another team with that many first choice that long around?
Even Neil McGee and Thompson made their debuts a decade ago, with McGlynn and Murphy close behind.
Christy Toye 2002
Colm McFadden2002
Eamon McGee 2004
Karl Lacey 2004
Neil Gallagher 2004
Rory Kavanagh 2004
Paul Durcan 2006
Neil McGee 2006
Anthony Thompson 2006
Frank McGlynn 2006
Michael Murphy 2008
Paddy McGrath 2010
Quote from: LeoMc on August 10, 2015, 07:50:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 10, 2015, 07:21:40 PM
McFadden and Toye have been there since 2002. Lacey, Durcan and Eamon McGee since 2004/5. Neil Gallagher must be the same. Is there another team with that many first choice that long around?
Even Neil McGee and Thompson made their debuts a decade ago, with McGlynn and Murphy close behind.
Murphy almost a decade ago?
Just completed his ninth intercounty season.
Made his debut at 17 in 2007 against Leitrim.
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 10, 2015, 08:14:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 10, 2015, 07:21:40 PM
McFadden and Toye have been there since 2002. Lacey, Durcan and Eamon McGee since 2004/5. Neil Gallagher must be the same. Is there another team with that many first choice that long around?
Even Neil McGee and Thompson made their debuts a decade ago, with McGlynn and Murphy close behind.
Christy Toye 2002
Colm McFadden2002
Eamon McGee 2004
Karl Lacey 2004
Neil Gallagher 2004
Rory Kavanagh 2004
Paul Durcan 2006
Neil McGee 2006
Anthony Thompson 2006
Frank McGlynn 2006
Michael Murphy 2008
Paddy McGrath 2010
Durcan started in 2004 (I'm sure Armagh men will remember Diarmuid Marsden beating him to flick a 45 into the net in that year's Ulster final at CP).
Kavanagh played in 2002, but didn't get established as first choice till 2006. Retired last year though.
On reflection, Mayo only beat a well worn out, old, tired, unmotivated (due to 2022), jaded team by 8 points. :(
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 10, 2015, 09:27:59 PM
On reflection, Mayo only beat a well worn out, old, tired, unmotivated (due to 2022), jaded team by 8 points. :(
Yes Farr! But you can only beat what is in front of you! Like Cork, Donegal losing their provincial final put them over on the sh1t side of the draw! And surely must have made a hard task look impossible! And had to affect morale.
Really hope that Mayo go on and win an All Ireland this year. A team with a lot of big characters that play the game in the right manner and who most neutrals will be rooting for. The Dubs v Mayo has the potential to be the game of the season.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2015, 08:03:56 PM
Good solid professional performance from Mayo on Saturday. Management who have taken a lot a flak took a gamble with Barry Moran and it paid off. Goals either side of half time killed the game.
A big factor in Donegals apparent lack of energy has to be attributed to their already heavy schedule of games. Games against Tyrone, Armagh, Derry, Monaghan and Galway is a big difference from playing just Galway and Sligo! With such a tight squad, Donegal have seen injuries mount and players not rested in games.
Donegal has not become an average side overnight. Just the (ridiculous) fixture list caught up with them. There seems to be calls for Retirements and blooding of Minors and Under 21's. If I was Gallagher (providing he's still at the helm) I'd wait for a few weeks before accepting retirements. There are still a good couple of the older lads who have something to offer.
Besides all, this Donegal side owes nothing 3 Anglo/Celt Cups and an AI are nothing to be scoffed at. A great group that has given Donegal great pride over the last 5 years.
As for ourselves, well today means nothing. Yes it's nice to get to an AI semi-final and to beat a decent (if currently out of form) Donegal side, but we've been here before and to the later stage. Five in a row Connacht titles and the title of top 4 team mean nothing without the big Canister! I know there are two potentially tough games left but this won't get any easier next year to claim the top prize. The time is now!
Sometimes it is easier to get your hands on the big Canister, just look at Kerry's nice handy run to the final.
Quote from: yellowcard on August 10, 2015, 10:02:36 PM
Really hope that Mayo go on and win an All Ireland this year. A team with a lot of big characters that play the game in the right manner and who most neutrals will be rooting for. The Dubs v Mayo has the potential to be the game of the season.
Can only be the game of the season if Mayo win - regardless how good the quality is. Mayo also need to win from here as the team that has not done so for longest and has been there in final so often. I'd hazard as often as Tyrone has ever been in last 30 years and maybe more often than Dublin in that period as well.
But it's all about winning. A Mayo win might encourage others to get serious about it. But that's not likely to happen.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2015, 08:03:56 PM
Good solid professional performance from Mayo on Saturday. Management who have taken a lot a flak took a gamble with Barry Moran and it paid off. Goals either side of half time killed the game.
A big factor in Donegals apparent lack of energy has to be attributed to their already heavy schedule of games. Games against Tyrone, Armagh, Derry, Monaghan and Galway is a big difference from playing just Galway and Sligo! With such a tight squad, Donegal have seen injuries mount and players not rested in games.
Donegal has not become an average side overnight. Just the (ridiculous) fixture list caught up with them. There seems to be calls for Retirements and blooding of Minors and Under 21's. If I was Gallagher (providing he's still at the helm) I'd wait for a few weeks before accepting retirements. There are still a good couple of the older lads who have something to offer.
Besides all, this Donegal side owes nothing 3 Anglo/Celt Cups and an AI are nothing to be scoffed at. A great group that has given Donegal great pride over the last 5 years.
As for ourselves, well today means nothing. Yes it's nice to get to an AI semi-final and to beat a decent (if currently out of form) Donegal side, but we've been here before and to the later stage. Five in a row Connacht titles and the title of top 4 team mean nothing without the big Canister! I know there are two potentially tough games left but this won't get any easier next year to claim the top prize. The time is now!
I doubt if there is a single Donegal person out there who is not full of gratitude about what this side has achieved.
Remember, we had only five Ulster titles in our history before 2011. McGuinness increased that haul by 60%!
I do think we need to start looking at what else is out there in terms of rebuilding though. Since 2012, only Ryan McHugh, Odhran MacNiallais and, to a lesser extent, Martin O'Reilly and Darrach O'Connor have broken through, with Hugh McFadden and Eamon Doherty introduced in the past few games. And that is into anging team.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2015, 08:03:56 PM
Good solid professional performance from Mayo on Saturday. Management who have taken a lot a flak took a gamble with Barry Moran and it paid off. Goals either side of half time killed the game.
A big factor in Donegals apparent lack of energy has to be attributed to their already heavy schedule of games. Games against Tyrone, Armagh, Derry, Monaghan and Galway is a big difference from playing just Galway and Sligo! With such a tight squad, Donegal have seen injuries mount and players not rested in games.
Donegal has not become an average side overnight. Just the (ridiculous) fixture list caught up with them. There seems to be calls for Retirements and blooding of Minors and Under 21's. If I was Gallagher (providing he's still at the helm) I'd wait for a few weeks before accepting retirements. There are still a good couple of the older lads who have something to offer.
Besides all, this Donegal side owes nothing 3 Anglo/Celt Cups and an AI are nothing to be scoffed at. A great group that has given Donegal great pride over the last 5 years.
As for ourselves, well today means nothing. Yes it's nice to get to an AI semi-final and to beat a decent (if currently out of form) Donegal side, but we've been here before and to the later stage. Five in a row Connacht titles and the title of top 4 team mean nothing without the big Canister! I know there are two potentially tough games left but this won't get any easier next year to claim the top prize. The time is now!
Donegal's fixtures once again high lights the
inequality of the All-Championship Draw. Mayo are a very good team and they have come through a difficult defensive system in the Donegal set-up to win very convincingly. Provided the keep their concentration on a solid defence they have the 'offensive flair' to win Sam
QuoteDonegal has not become an average side overnight
no but Despite las yer allireland final appearance they have been getting weaker for the last few years.
mind you they have a great base to rebuild
the Mchughs mcbreaty Macniallas o'rieilly and Mcellhenny(where Darach O'Connor gone) should form the basis of their next team add in a few minors and the best of the older guys they could well win Ulster again next year and then who knows.Once you have a Murphy on your team you always have a chance.
Quote from: rosnarun on August 11, 2015, 12:53:06 PM
QuoteDonegal has not become an average side overnight
no but Despite las yer allireland final appearance they have been getting weaker for the last few years.
mind you they have a great base to rebuild
the Mchughs mcbreaty Macniallas o'rieilly and Mcellhenny(where Darach O'Connor gone) should form the basis of their next team add in a few minors and the best of the older guys they could well win Ulster again next year and then who knows.Once you have a Murphy on your team you always have a chance.
Bad season with injuries.
Quote from: J70 on August 11, 2015, 12:45:14 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2015, 08:03:56 PM
Good solid professional performance from Mayo on Saturday. Management who have taken a lot a flak took a gamble with Barry Moran and it paid off. Goals either side of half time killed the game.
A big factor in Donegals apparent lack of energy has to be attributed to their already heavy schedule of games. Games against Tyrone, Armagh, Derry, Monaghan and Galway is a big difference from playing just Galway and Sligo! With such a tight squad, Donegal have seen injuries mount and players not rested in games.
Donegal has not become an average side overnight. Just the (ridiculous) fixture list caught up with them. There seems to be calls for Retirements and blooding of Minors and Under 21's. If I was Gallagher (providing he's still at the helm) I'd wait for a few weeks before accepting retirements. There are still a good couple of the older lads who have something to offer.
Besides all, this Donegal side owes nothing 3 Anglo/Celt Cups and an AI are nothing to be scoffed at. A great group that has given Donegal great pride over the last 5 years.
As for ourselves, well today means nothing. Yes it's nice to get to an AI semi-final and to beat a decent (if currently out of form) Donegal side, but we've been here before and to the later stage. Five in a row Connacht titles and the title of top 4 team mean nothing without the big Canister! I know there are two potentially tough games left but this won't get any easier next year to claim the top prize. The time is now!
I doubt if there is a single Donegal person out there who is not full of gratitude about what this side has achieved.
Remember, we had only five Ulster titles in our history before 2011. McGuinness increased that haul by 60%!
I do think we need to start looking at what else is out there in terms of rebuilding though. Since 2012, only Ryan McHugh, Odhran MacNiallais and, to a lesser extent, Martin O'Reilly and Darrach O'Connor have broken through, with Hugh McFadden and Eamon Doherty introduced in the past few games. And that is into anging team.
You're probably 2-3 years away unfortunately . However you've had some great days and those lads sacrificed every bit of themselves for the jersey. You were in the minor final - things aren't too bad
Only nagging doubt is you left one all Ireland behind you . Largely due to Jims stubbornness of getting rid of Gallagher
Looks like Durcan is gone anywat
http://www.the42.ie/paul-durcan-donegal-2264812-Aug2015/
Key thing in the article
QuoteChristy Toye's 33rd birthday will be next March while Neil Gallagher and Colm McFadden will both turn 33 next May. Panellist David Walsh turns 33 this week. Elsewhere Karl Lacey is 32 next month and Eamonn McGee turns 32 next April.
Why do Karl Lacey and Eamonn McGee have their birthdays elsewhere?
The only house in Balla with Sky Sports last Saturday:
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Quote from: muppet on August 11, 2015, 05:31:17 PM
The only house in Balla with Sky Sports last Saturday:
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11846774_10153127038508262_3951329174030694660_n.jpg?oh=58161eef307123bbfb02c767d37a1475&oe=56499F3D)
Initially I though Muppet that you had pulled a picture on the internet from some place in Romania. But I recognise a lad there from Mayo Abbey!
Scarey!
It's from the Connacht Telegraph.
There is a guy at the left window with a Mayo jersey on.
Interesting analysis of the match stats:
https://dontfoul.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/donegal-v-mayo-2015-all-ireland-qf/ (https://dontfoul.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/donegal-v-mayo-2015-all-ireland-qf/)
Is Mary just after finishing the spuds, empty plate on her lap ;D
Silke talks of his surprise at his Mayo work colleagues back in 1998 not wanting to have anything to do with Sam brought into work. Gas! At least he has given up Mayo bashing (I think!).
http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/79041/improving-mayo-building-case-for-all-ireland-glory (http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/79041/improving-mayo-building-case-for-all-ireland-glory)
Mayo v Donegal match is on youtube here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl0c3rYILu8
Quote from: Mayo Club 51 on August 15, 2015, 12:41:05 AM
Mayo v Donegal match is on youtube here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl0c3rYILu8
Excellent, Thanx!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 01, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
This will be a big test of where Mayo are.
So where are they?