All-Ireland Series Sam Maguire 2026

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Dunneroyal

For first time since the draw. I'm worried. Both flynn and O'Connor not starting. No harm to either Charlie or Adam but these two are two point getters and with the absence of Kinsella this could be a long drive home. Both must be carrying knocks otherwise they'd be certain starters. Suddenly our middle part doesn't look as daunting to mayo
Hon the royal

Manning18

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 18, 2026, 09:25:11 AMReally looking forward to Saturday.
A big pitch is what this meath team need and thankfully that's what we will get . It's not croke park because t it's not that far off

Unfortunately Castlebar's one of the smaller county pitches dimension wise in the country

I'd have thought a smaller pitch would suit the team with more size around the middle (Meath) but who knows. Changes don't help in that regard

twohands!!!

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Quote from: mackers on June 19, 2026, 09:53:51 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 19, 2026, 09:12:01 AMYeah going down myself but when i sit here looking at both teams side by side that Kerry front 6 is just mad and if they're fit and click Armagh will be in a spot of bother. I think if we're still in it with 15mins to go then we have a chance but I fear we could get torn apart down in Killarney and I'm really fearful of this game tbh. The only thing in Armagh's favour is the underdog tag and we certainly love being written off, the big factor for me (someone mentioned above) is if Kerry push up hard on Armagh and force the keeper to kick it long then we're in serious trouble beacuse that's our weakest point (middle of the field, with no big men there to compete). If Kerry allow us to take short kickouts then they're not wise...
Yes.  For all the hype around the Kerry injuries they are getting their big players back as we are losing ours.  We said it at the time but Crealey leaves a massive gap in our team when we're going up against the big guns.  Kerry will be very aggressive on our kickouts, if we can retain 35/40% of them then we have a great chance but I think every Armagh fan is really worried about this.  Rafferty has to have a Tyrone 24 Ulster semifinal match and JOB and Murnin have to deliver big time.

One thing I noticed in the reports about the Kerry Kildare game was that they got 4 two pointers with 4 different scorers - O'Beaglaoich, Joe O'Connor, Dylan Geaney and Paudie Clifford.

A lot of teams seem very reliant on a couple of lads for their 2 point shooting threat but if a team is having to worry about a whole chunk of the other team being 2 pointer scoring threats it makes defending against them so much harder.

Beforehand that game if you'd told Kildare that none of David Clifford, Paul Geaney, Killian Spillane or Tony Brosnan would score a 2 pointer against them (with Seanie O'Shea and Tom O'Sullivan not in the match-day panel) they'd probably have been delighted.

I'd love to see a detailed breakdown on the stats in terms of who in teams are taking on 2 pointer shots and who is scoring them. Longer-term I think county teams are going to put more value on players who can score 2 pointers.

naka

Quote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:39:40 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2026, 09:30:51 AM
Quote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:25:41 AMI guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Late inclusions are possible. Remember Rain O'Neill being named at 6 v Derry on his outa nowhere comeback (1st comeback hopefully!).

Possibly. In recent weeks the journalists seem to be getting the list of stand-by players in advance (which I guess can't be changed once submitted) so maybe we'll get clarity before the match.
McGill wasn't named in 30 last weekend

Dunneroyal

Quote from: Manning18 on June 19, 2026, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 18, 2026, 09:25:11 AMReally looking forward to Saturday.
A big pitch is what this meath team need and thankfully that's what we will get . It's not croke park because t it's not that far off

Unfortunately Castlebar's one of the smaller county pitches dimension wise in the country

I'd have thought a smaller pitch would suit the team with more size around the middle (Meath) but who knows. Changes don't help in that regard

Those changes don't help at all. Actually they terrify me.
Hon the royal

ClubScene13

If Kerry win tomorrow and get decent minutes into Sean O'Shea they'll go the whole way I fear. Especially if Shane Ryan is not far away. A championship which seems wide open has ended with Kerry up the steps plenty of times, could be the same story again.

I would give Armagh a good chance though, definitely not going down to  make up the numbers. McQuillan should start and I would really think long and hard about starting Oisin O'Neill as well


imtommygunn

If Kerry get a run I imagine they'll be hard stopped. They need beat now.

Last year I felt a big reason was Joe O'Connor lording midfield so maybe teams will be wiser to that unless they have more surprises up their sleeve.

Brick Tamlin

Im gonna stick the neck out on this one.
Armagh will win this game.

This is shit or bust for them and with the backs to the wall they will react well and get the result.
Theyve been crying out to get a game with a top 4 team and this is the chance to prove last weekend was a blip.
Most games theyve been the favourites and it doesnt do them any good. Now theyll relish being the underdogs again and having the 'world is against us' mentality drilled into them for the last 6 days.

Kerry 1-18 Armagh 2-17

Blowitupref

Quote from: twohands!!! on June 19, 2026, 11:10:37 AM
Quote from: mackers on June 19, 2026, 09:53:51 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 19, 2026, 09:12:01 AMYeah going down myself but when i sit here looking at both teams side by side that Kerry front 6 is just mad and if they're fit and click Armagh will be in a spot of bother. I think if we're still in it with 15mins to go then we have a chance but I fear we could get torn apart down in Killarney and I'm really fearful of this game tbh. The only thing in Armagh's favour is the underdog tag and we certainly love being written off, the big factor for me (someone mentioned above) is if Kerry push up hard on Armagh and force the keeper to kick it long then we're in serious trouble beacuse that's our weakest point (middle of the field, with no big men there to compete). If Kerry allow us to take short kickouts then they're not wise...
Yes.  For all the hype around the Kerry injuries they are getting their big players back as we are losing ours.  We said it at the time but Crealey leaves a massive gap in our team when we're going up against the big guns.  Kerry will be very aggressive on our kickouts, if we can retain 35/40% of them then we have a great chance but I think every Armagh fan is really worried about this.  Rafferty has to have a Tyrone 24 Ulster semifinal match and JOB and Murnin have to deliver big time.

One thing I noticed in the reports about the Kerry Kildare game was that they got 4 two pointers with 4 different scorers - O'Beaglaoich, Joe O'Connor, Dylan Geaney and Paudie Clifford.

A lot of teams seem very reliant on a couple of lads for their 2 point shooting threat but if a team is having to worry about a whole chunk of the other team being 2 pointer scoring threats it makes defending against them so much harder.

Beforehand that game if you'd told Kildare that none of David Clifford, Paul Geaney, Killian Spillane or Tony Brosnan would score a 2 pointer against them (with Seanie O'Shea and Tom O'Sullivan not in the match-day panel) they'd probably have been delighted.

I'd love to see a detailed breakdown on the stats in terms of who in teams are taking on 2 pointer shots and who is scoring them. Longer-term I think county teams are going to put more value on players who can score 2 pointers.

Kerry was reliant on two players last year for two pointers, a case they have worked on that now or it said more about Kildare?

Kerry in the championship last year
scored 29 two pointers

David Clifford 14 (12tp, 2tpf)
Sean O'Shea 12 (7tpf, 5tp)

3 from other players
Tony Brosnan (1tp)
Shane Ryan  (1tpf)
Tom O'Sullivan (1tp)
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

doh827

Will Matthew Thompson be back for Galway this year? Remember when he went away he was expected back for the Connacht final. If they add him to a fit Walsh and Comer and Finnerty who's playing out of his skin  they'll be hard to stop

bennydorano

Jesus Tomas O'Se is uncharacteristically bullish about Kerry on the Indo Sport pod, he's normally a soft soaper yerra man.

DaleCooper



I can understand the appetite for Kerry folk to lay down a marker. They could end up walloping Armagh down the straight.

Captain Obvious

Another 8.30am Monday draw. Why not have it directly have it after the last round 3 game or on the Sunday game that evening?

Louth,Tyrone,Galway will be keeping their fingers and toes crossed to avoid Kerry. And lucky for Cork they can only be paired with Meath/Mayo or Westmeath/Monaghan should Donegal beat Dublin as expected.

Armagh18

Quote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:39:40 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2026, 09:30:51 AM
Quote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:25:41 AMI guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Late inclusions are possible. Remember Rain O'Neill being named at 6 v Derry on his outa nowhere comeback (1st comeback hopefully!).

Possibly. In recent weeks the journalists seem to be getting the list of stand-by players in advance (which I guess can't be changed once submitted) so maybe we'll get clarity before the match.
Magill wasn't named at all for the Louth game and wore number 1, so it must be allowed. Could see Blaine with 16 but unlikely.

Rian that time may have been on the 30 which wasn't released back then just 26

bennydorano

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 19, 2026, 01:52:55 PM
Quote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:39:40 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2026, 09:30:51 AM
Quote from: Keane on June 19, 2026, 09:25:41 AMI guess since Armagh named 30 that includes their stand-by players so little or no prospect of Hughes?
Late inclusions are possible. Remember Rain O'Neill being named at 6 v Derry on his outa nowhere comeback (1st comeback hopefully!).

Possibly. In recent weeks the journalists seem to be getting the list of stand-by players in advance (which I guess can't be changed once submitted) so maybe we'll get clarity before the match.
Magill wasn't named at all for the Louth game and wore number 1, so it must be allowed. Could see Blaine with 16 but unlikely.

Rian that time may have been on the 30 which wasn't released back then just 26
No, he wore N6, replacing someone.