Man Utd Thread:

[Goats Do Shave]

I've always said Mascherano isn't a midfielder... Barca have realised that by playing him in defence. At best he's a right back. All he can do is tackle... he's not a footballer.

Neither lucas nor Carrick can tackle, however they do seem to be able to pass the ball... Carrick slightly better, however Lucas seems more mobile. However, I don't think any of them are good enough to start for UTD!

carrick cant tackle , i'll give you that, but lucas was one of the top tacklers in the Pl last season.
just because he doesnt go flying into tackles doesnt mean he isnt winning the ball back.

I don't have the stats to back it up... but i'd argue Lucas conceeds the most fouls in the PL! - His timing is a bit rash. He's improving.

[Boycey]

I've always said Mascherano isn't a midfielder... Barca have realised that by playing him in defence. At best he's a right back. All he can do is tackle... he's not a footballer.

Neither lucas nor Carrick can tackle, however they do seem to be able to pass the ball... Carrick slightly better, however Lucas seems more mobile. However, I don't think any of them are good enough to start for UTD!

carrick cant tackle , i'll give you that, but lucas was one of the top tacklers in the Pl last season.
just because he doesnt go flying into tackles doesnt mean he isnt winning the ball back.

Carrick doing a pretty passable impression of a defensive midfielder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az-ly_hqLWE

[snoopdog]

I've always said Mascherano isn't a midfielder... Barca have realised that by playing him in defence. At best he's a right back. All he can do is tackle... he's not a footballer.

Neither lucas nor Carrick can tackle, however they do seem to be able to pass the ball... Carrick slightly better, however Lucas seems more mobile. However, I don't think any of them are good enough to start for UTD!

carrick cant tackle , i'll give you that, but lucas was one of the top tacklers in the Pl last season.
just because he doesnt go flying into tackles doesnt mean he isnt winning the ball back.

Carrick doing a pretty passable impression of a defensive midfielder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az-ly_hqLWE

lads carrick is DUNG, luckiest player ever to have the medals he has. i hope Cleverly and Ando can keep their places in the team ahead of him

[Boycey]

Wasn't expecting us to sign anyone yesterday but I thought we'd shed a few, on loan if nothing else.. A lot of boys will not be getting much football.

[laoislad]

Glad that transfer window craic is over. Hate it. Utd had a successfull summer of ins and outs and time now to kick on and hold on to the 100% start to the season.

Great to see Sneijder signed for Man United as you predicted 3 or 4 times.
How much did they pay in the end?

[Boycey]

Glad that transfer window craic is over. Hate it. Utd had a successfull summer of ins and outs and time now to kick on and hold on to the 100% start to the season.

Great to see Sneijder signed for Man United as you predicted 3 or 4 times.
How much did they pay in the end?

not me bud unless you are counting the throwaway remark  I said to Bingo the other evening?

[Geoff Tipps]

Glad that transfer window craic is over. Hate it. Utd had a successfull summer of ins and outs and time now to kick on and hold on to the 100% start to the season.

Great to see Sneijder signed for Man United as you predicted 3 or 4 times.
How much did they pay in the end?

not me bud unless you are counting the throwaway remark  I said to Bingo the other evening?

He quoted EC Unique. Wild guess it's directed at him 

[Boycey]

Glad that transfer window craic is over. Hate it. Utd had a successfull summer of ins and outs and time now to kick on and hold on to the 100% start to the season.

Great to see Sneijder signed for Man United as you predicted 3 or 4 times.
How much did they pay in the end?

not me bud unless you are counting the throwaway remark  I said to Bingo the other evening?

He quoted EC Unique. Wild guess it's directed at him 

He did indeed, my humble apologies

[ross4life]

I've always said Mascherano isn't a midfielder... Barca have realised that by playing him in defence. At best he's a right back. All he can do is tackle... he's not a footballer.

Neither lucas nor Carrick can tackle, however they do seem to be able to pass the ball... Carrick slightly better, however Lucas seems more mobile. However, I don't think any of them are good enough to start for UTD!

carrick cant tackle , i'll give you that, but lucas was one of the top tacklers in the Pl last season.
just because he doesnt go flying into tackles doesnt mean he isnt winning the ball back.

Carrick doing a pretty passable impression of a defensive midfielder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az-ly_hqLWE

lads carrick is DUNG, luckiest player ever to have the medals he has. i hope Cleverly and Ando can keep their places in the team ahead of him

Carrick & indeed Lucas have done a decent job as defensive midfielders but most would look "DUNG" compared to Barca. Darren Fletcher seems to be a forgotten man in these parts? a fully fit Fletcher is arguably one of the best defensive midfielders in the PL.

[nrico2006]

I've always said Mascherano isn't a midfielder... Barca have realised that by playing him in defence. At best he's a right back. All he can do is tackle... he's not a footballer.

Neither lucas nor Carrick can tackle, however they do seem to be able to pass the ball... Carrick slightly better, however Lucas seems more mobile. However, I don't think any of them are good enough to start for UTD!

carrick cant tackle , i'll give you that, but lucas was one of the top tacklers in the Pl last season.
just because he doesnt go flying into tackles doesnt mean he isnt winning the ball back.

Carrick doing a pretty passable impression of a defensive midfielder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az-ly_hqLWE

lads carrick is DUNG, luckiest player ever to have the medals he has. i hope Cleverly and Ando can keep their places in the team ahead of him

Carrick & indeed Lucas have done a decent job as defensive midfielders but most would look "DUNG" compared to Barca. Darren Fletcher seems to be a forgotten man in these parts? a fully fit Fletcher is arguably one of the best defensive midfielders in the PL.

Fletcher is one of the best defensive midfielders in the league, and was a big factor in the 2009 and 2011 Champions League final results.  I read an article saying that Hargreaves would be good cover for De Jong if fit, but for me if Hargreaves is fit he will easily be the number 1 player in that position in the league.  Brilliant holding midfielder.

[Minder]

Nrico, you still talking this nonsense that those finals would have been any different with Fletcher playing ?!

[Boycey]

Nrico, you still talking this nonsense that those finals would have been any different with Fletcher playing ?!

Had Fletch not been suspended in 09 and Fergie had picked the right team I'd say yeah United could have beaten them. In '11 Fletch would have made as much difference as me..

[Bingo]

Nrico, you still talking this nonsense that those finals would have been any different with Fletcher playing ?!

Had Fletch not been suspended in 09 and Fergie had picked the right team I'd say yeah United could have beaten them. In '11 Fletch would have made as much difference as me..

IF, if and if. Never likely.

[gallsman]

I've always said Mascherano isn't a midfielder... Barca have realised that by playing him in defence. At best he's a right back. All he can do is tackle... he's not a footballer.

Neither lucas nor Carrick can tackle, however they do seem to be able to pass the ball... Carrick slightly better, however Lucas seems more mobile. However, I don't think any of them are good enough to start for UTD!

carrick cant tackle , i'll give you that, but lucas was one of the top tacklers in the Pl last season.
just because he doesnt go flying into tackles doesnt mean he isnt winning the ball back.

Carrick doing a pretty passable impression of a defensive midfielder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az-ly_hqLWE

lads carrick is DUNG, luckiest player ever to have the medals he has. i hope Cleverly and Ando can keep their places in the team ahead of him

Carrick & indeed Lucas have done a decent job as defensive midfielders but most would look "DUNG" compared to Barca. Darren Fletcher seems to be a forgotten man in these parts? a fully fit Fletcher is arguably one of the best defensive midfielders in the PL.

Fletcher is one of the best defensive midfielders in the league, and was a big factor in the 2009 and 2011 Champions League final results.  I read an article saying that Hargreaves would be good cover for De Jong if fit, but for me if Hargreaves is fit he will easily be the number 1 player in that position in the league.  Brilliant holding midfielder.

The deification of Owen Hargreaves continues. He had a good (but overrated) WC for England in 2006 and then had one good season at United having been distinctly average for Bayern for 3/4 years. To describe him as the number 1 in the league is laughable.

[gallsman]

Nrico, you still talking this nonsense that those finals would have been any different with Fletcher playing ?!

Had Fletch not been suspended in 09 and Fergie had picked the right team I'd say yeah United could have beaten them. In '11 Fletch would have made as much difference as me..

Also, and this isn't being snarky Boycey, but he'd have done nothing in 2009 either. Even if he had done a bit of defensive job and won some ball, he wouldn't have held onto to it much longer. United's only glimmer of hope in that game was Ronaldo and he fizzled out very early.