Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[square_ball]

Goin to buy juvenile and adult tickets for Saturday, will the release better seats during the week or should u just take what's on offer now?

Going by last year there should be better adult/juvenile tickets released later in the week in the Cusack. Yesterdays release had mostly Canal End or the corners of Canal/Hogan or Canal/Cusack.

[thebigfullforward]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

[ClubScene13]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

You can interpret it whatever way you want, they kept the ball out of Kerry's hands for the majority of the first half and were extremely unlucky to go in 6 down

[2ndstringsub]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

You can interpret it whatever way you want, they kept the ball out of Kerry's hands for the majority of the first half and were extremely unlucky to go in 6 down

They held onto the ball, poorly might I add because when they eventually did cough up possession it ended in several of the 6 pts that Kerry led by at the break.

Armagh are not the team their fans believe they are.

Kerry won because they played/play football. Armagh lost because they held onto the ball.

[ClubScene13]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

You can interpret it whatever way you want, they kept the ball out of Kerry's hands for the majority of the first half and were extremely unlucky to go in 6 down

They held onto the ball, poorly might I add because when they eventually did cough up possession it ended in several of the 6 pts that Kerry led by at the break.

Armagh are not the team their fans believe they are.

Kerry won because they played/play football. Armagh lost because they held onto the ball.

I agree with you - my larger point was that Armagh were not getting blown away for 70 minutes as the final scoreline might suggest. So some reason for optimism.

 We also hold onto the ball at an infuriating rate, which won't do against Kerry. How quickly they move it in comparison is night and day

[statto]

Agree with the sentiment here, think we can keep in a game up to half time anyway - Armagh never should have went in 6 down on Saturday, they were playing the better stuff for large spells and the second goal killed them. But when it really comes to the crunch, the difference in bench quality and 2 point threat will kill us. As poster above said, feels like Dublin 2018, might be able to keep it to 5 or 6 but probably never look like winning the game. Same as last year.  I hope I'm wrong but cannot see it!

Were they playing the better stuff though? They had the ball and didn't do much with it

You can interpret it whatever way you want, they kept the ball out of Kerry's hands for the majority of the first half and were extremely unlucky to go in 6 down

They held onto the ball, poorly might I add because when they eventually did cough up possession it ended in several of the 6 pts that Kerry led by at the break.

Armagh are not the team their fans believe they are.

Kerry won because they played/play football. Armagh lost because they held onto the ball.

I agree with you - my larger point was that Armagh were not getting blown away for 70 minutes as the final scoreline might suggest. So some reason for optimism.

 We also hold onto the ball at an infuriating rate, which won't do against Kerry. How quickly they move it in comparison is night and day

Yes taking Kerry on in a shootout playing against the wind would have been advisable. 

[TyroneTam]

One thing I'd like to see is a ruthlessness if a goal opportunity is presented. Think this is the only way we'll take them, scoring at least 3 goals like 2021.

What's the chances of a curve ball to negate their wall in the half forward line?

Could we see Seanie O'D replaced with someone like Ben O'Donnell or Lorcan McGarity? Someone that might match up to and challenge them in the air?

[tyrone08]

Watching back the 2025 game against kerry. Tyrone werent too far away. We had 2 goal chances inside 20 mins and missed a heap of points over the game.

Issue is I don't think tyrone have improved too much since then. Still no direct approach or gameplan to work 2point scores.

My main gripe with management has been lack of playing style to suit our quick forwards. Scoring goals and 2 pointers has been an ongoing problem. We need to do both of these to win.

Heart saying we can do it, head saying we wont as we are stale this last few years.

[TyroneTam]

Where did you watch it back?

[DaleCooper]

Youtube has full game just search for it. On another day kerry have 6 goals. Ironically I would feel more confident with last years team Vs this Kerry.

Gavin White and O Shea were huge for them.

 Need same mindset as Dubs against Donegal, they went direct fast and had a lot of joy. I dont mind being beaten so long as they do themselves justice

[Goals_Will_Come]

Donegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armagh's mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth. Teague on David Clifford, Devlin on Paudie Clifford, McKernan for O'Shea when he features, not sure what the plan for Joe O'Connor would be.

[square_ball]

Donegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armagh's mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth. Teague on David Clifford, Devlin on Paudie Clifford, McKernan for O'Shea when he features, not sure what the plan for Joe O'Connor would be.

Don't really see any evidence of that to be honest. Kerry are well able to mix it and stand up for themselves.

[tyrone08]

Donegal have shown twice if you throw a slap or two at them and get physical they lie down. Tyrone need to follow this mantra and also learn from Armagh's mistakes and go at them. Jordan's two point potential could be crucial for Tyrone. Fitness of Canavan also a big factor, even for squad depth. Teague on David Clifford, Devlin on Paudie Clifford, McKernan for O'Shea when he features, not sure what the plan for Joe O'Connor would be.

Don't really see any evidence of that to be honest. Kerry are well able to mix it and stand up for themselves.

With David Clifford I would go the opposite direction. Do not engage him in a physical contest. He thrives off the physicality and often initiates it regardless of what the media and Kerry fans say. Some players play even better when the are fired up, deprive him of that.

Focus on winning the ball in front of him, frustrate him by staying with him. Anytime he tries to engage in a brawl walk away. He will be out to get a few men booked. I would guarantee this would annoy him more that trying to bully him. When he gets frustrated, he is prone to a rash challenge or two which will work in our favour.

Paudie and a few of the other lads I would get physical with not because they cant handle it more so because they will lash out more obviously than David.

[square_ball]

With David Clifford I would go the opposite direction. Do not engage him in a physical contest. He thrives off the physicality and often initiates it regardless of what the media and Kerry fans say. Some players play even better when the are fired up, deprive him of that.

The worst thing Teague (if on him) can do is engage in anything physical before the throw in and be prepared for Clifford to throw a shoulder as he shakes his hand. As you say ignoring will rile him up more than biting back at him.

[DaleCooper]

Kerry keeper not as experienced. Big unknown in the Croker Cauldron.

Jordan for us likewise, he will either deliver or wilt. Cant assume McCurry can repeat his Mayo display, would hold him on bench til half time.

Morgan is going to need a near perfect game and hopefully he is told not to roam. Totally mad with new rules *unless his job is to have a go OR kick accurate foot passes* but hes only doing role anyone can do.

Kerry are bigger team, the battle needs to be relentless psychologically.