Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[tyrone08]

Does anyone know Dooher/Logan's championship record our wins, draws and losses?
Bound to be close to more losses than wins?

Won 9
Drawn 1
Lost 7

Since All-Ireland win
Won 4
Drawn 1
Lost 7

That's not great reading.

Only wins in ulster are Fermanagh and Cavan

That is actually depressing reading. Not point wasting another year of players talent with dooher and co. Get them out end of this year. Either Peter Canavan, u 20 manager or o'rouke.

[inroundthesquare]

Does anyone know Dooher/Logan's championship record our wins, draws and losses?
Bound to be close to more losses than wins?

Won 9
Drawn 1
Lost 7

Since All-Ireland win
Won 4
Drawn 1
Lost 7

That's not great reading.

Only wins in ulster are Fermanagh and Cavan

That is actually depressing reading. Not point wasting another year of players talent with dooher and co. Get them out end of this year. Either Peter Canavan, u 20 manager or o'rouke.

Dooher and Logan have another two years after this year, up to end of 2026.

[RedHand88]

Do Tyrone need to drop the policy of only employing from within the county?

[tyrone08]

Does anyone know Dooher/Logan's championship record our wins, draws and losses?
Bound to be close to more losses than wins?

Won 9
Drawn 1
Lost 7

Since All-Ireland win
Won 4
Drawn 1
Lost 7

That's not great reading.

Only wins in ulster are Fermanagh and Cavan

That is actually depressing reading. Not point wasting another year of players talent with dooher and co. Get them out end of this year. Either Peter Canavan, u 20 manager or o'rouke.

Dooher and Logan have another two years after this year, up to end of 2026.

 oh crap. No way they can justify a win rate of 33%

[Truthsayer]

Do Tyrone need to drop the policy of only employing from within the county?

'Employing'... ?

[red hander]

Do Tyrone need to drop the policy of only employing from within the county?

Can't see that happening. Think only us, Dublin and Kerry have this policy (I stand to be corrected). Personally, I want the policy to continue. It would be an admission that there's no one good enough within the county to do the job. I would never believe that.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

Did anyone really think we could beat donegal tonight.  Seriously.  We have better players but vast difference on the sideline.  My god

They were in good positions to win against them 6 weeks ago twice so I would presume so. 

And didn't. And yet another second half collapse this time. Did you really think Tyrone would win?

Said it often enough but while we should be eternally grateful to Dooher and Logan for taking the shackles off Mickey's team and leading them to Sam in 2021, everything since has been miles from the required standard. A rudderless ship and a team which is way less than the sum of their parts. Individual talent keeps them competitive but lack of a coherent plan and identity so clear against anyone half decent. With the talent coming through Tyrone really need to have a rethink.

This wasn't a David v Goliath game Tyrone have thrived as underdogs in the past and it was well within their capability to win the game. to suggest Tyrone didn't expect to win the game I don't think is correct. 

The younger Canavan seems over hyped from what I have saw to date. Darragh and McCurry could do with some support up top.  McGeary at last showing a bit of form is a positive for them moving forward. 

It certainly wasn't David v Goliath based on the talent available to both teams. But anyone who expected Tyrone to win was deluding themselves.

[Truthsayer]

Do Tyrone need to drop the policy of only employing from within the county?

Can't see that happening. Think only us, Dublin and Kerry have this policy (I stand to be corrected). Personally, I want the policy to continue. It would be an admission that there's no one good enough within the county to do the job. I would never believe that.

Agreed plenty of good coaches from Tyrone. Was Tally took Kerry across the line in 2022. The difference in the back division was most evident when he went there... Jack knew what he was doing getting him in.

[nrico2006]

Does anyone know Dooher/Logan's championship record our wins, draws and losses?
Bound to be close to more losses than wins?

Won 9
Drawn 1
Lost 7

Since All-Ireland win
Won 4
Drawn 1
Lost 7

That's not great reading.

Only wins in ulster are Fermanagh and Cavan

That is actually depressing reading. Not point wasting another year of players talent with dooher and co. Get them out end of this year. Either Peter Canavan, u 20 manager or o'rouke.

Peter Canavan? O'Rourke is the one we need.

[DuffleKing]

Jeez - a Fermanagh man needed to sort you out?

[thebigfullforward]

Maybe my standards are in the bin but I think some people are being a bit harsh on the players here. Michael O'Neill has been good at club level from whenever ive seen him. Maybe not starting quality for a top county team but hes deserving of a squad role. R. Canavan is only young yet. Took Darragh a few years to get to where he is now and Darragh wasn't expected to perform straight away from Mickey or Logan and Dooher. Took him maybe 3 or 4 years to get to this level

[Goals_Will_Come]

Does anyone know Dooher/Logan's championship record our wins, draws and losses?
Bound to be close to more losses than wins?

Won 9
Drawn 1
Lost 7

Since All-Ireland win
Won 4
Drawn 1
Lost 7

That's not great reading.

Only wins in ulster are Fermanagh and Cavan

That is actually depressing reading. Not point wasting another year of players talent with dooher and co. Get them out end of this year. Either Peter Canavan, u 20 manager or o'rouke.

Canavan isn't a viable option, hasn't managed in nearly 10 years. Paddy Tally, Ryan McMenamin, Enda McGinley and Ciaran Meenagh would be more likely candidates.
Better keeping Logan and Dooher than going with Paul Devlin. We are concerned at about how pure talent is keeping us competitive but struggling on the sideline against bigger teams. Devlin has won 2 All Irelands on talent alone and arguably lost 2/3 others based on his inability to manage extremely talented players. Tyrone should really have been won their third All Ireland in a row this year but Devlin was in over his head on the sideline against Conor Laverty in 2023. He was also very questionable in their Semi Final losses in 2019 and 2020.

[Truthsayer]

I remember being at a minor club game and Martin Coyle and Liam Donnelly had just managed Tyrone to 2004 All Ireland minor final. This aul boy was complaining that lad from his club wasn't on the team. I ses, "They just won the All Ireland!"... he replied, "Just about..." Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
I'd go after Tally and whoever he brings with him... he won Kerry that All Ireland in 2022 albeit Tyrone not in same place they were when he went down the road...

[An Watcher]

He'd tighten up the back line for a start

[Truthsayer]

He'd tighten up the back line for a start

That's what he turned in Kerry. In '22 the amount of turnovers etc was so obviously Paddy's work... year before Tyrone hit them for 3 goals and other games they were getting torn apart at the back.