The final a lot of people wanted to see.
I'd loved to have seen Mayo win the AI but they're going to have to wait another year.
Dublin will be hard to beat. Bring it on.
Another AI final day looking and listening to those scummy bastards on the hill. I'd rather see Tyrone in it. I hope Kerry bloody stuff them.
Would rather almost anyone else other than Kerry or Dublin to win it, but I don't think I could stomach listening to the Dubs if they win another one. So up Kerry.
Dubs win by 5 or 6. Their forwards will tear Kerry to pieces. If Kerry manage to get Cluxton kicking down the middle they've a bit of a chance as that's the only area they're stronger.
Tickets won't be easy got.
Quote from: OgraAnDun on September 05, 2015, 06:46:17 PM
Would rather almost anyone else other than Kerry or Dublin to win it, but I don't think I could stomach listening to the Dubs if they win another one. So up Kerry.
At least if fkn Kerry win they just feck off home and go about their business.
Quote from: orangeman on September 05, 2015, 07:13:25 PM
Tickets won't be easy got.
With Kerry in the minor they'll be glad of the extra allocation.
Quote from: beer baron on September 05, 2015, 06:54:04 PM
Dubs win by 5 or 6. Their forwards will tear Kerry to pieces. If Kerry manage to get Cluxton kicking down the middle they've a bit of a chance as that's the only area they're stronger.
I'd agree normally but dublin seem to win all irelands by a point so Dublin by 1 !
When tyrone went at kerry they were vunerable and with much lesser forwards. This could end up a shootout.
I also think dublin by a bit.
Be interesting to see fitzmaurice tactics on kickouts. Kerry will be better at midfield but i think the middle of their defense could be too weak.
Connolly and flynn will feel they've a lot to prove now too and connolly especially could do damage.
Quote from: BennyCake on September 05, 2015, 06:42:45 PM
Another AI final day looking and listening to those scummy b**tards on the hill. I'd rather see Tyrone in it. I hope Kerry bloody stuff them.
Cheers Benny.
No bigger scumbags the then Tyrone fans on the Hill in fairness. Plenty of lads just out of jail for various crimes far worse then some of the inhabitants on the Hill today. So I'd imagine both sets of scum would get on well.
We're here to talk about the match and since you're not in it (again)- might be best to toddle off and start your own anti-Dub thread. I'm sure you'll get plenty of Northern contributors, laoislad and Leo. Usual suspects from shite counties
Very little chance of a Dublin win. Kerry have the superior midfield and Dublin's defence has problems.
I'd really fear for the damage the Kerry forwards could do to us with a decent supply of ball.
Kerry have their own issues in defence but their superior midfield should see them home.
dublin will improve but you can't put form into players. Flynn is injured and needs an operation.
You really don't help yourself INDIANA.
You really are a headcase.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 05, 2015, 08:41:00 PM
Very little chance of a Dublin win. Kerry have the superior midfield and Dublin's defence has problems.
I'd really fear for the damage the Kerry forwards could do to us with a decent supply of ball.
Kerry have their own issues in defence but their superior midfield should see them home.
dublin will improve but you can't put form into players. Flynn is injured and needs an operation.
What's the Dublin translation of "yerra"?
A novel pairing. Has it happened before?
Would have Kerry as slight favourites but it's not far off a toss of the coin game. As a neutral I'll be rooting for the Dubs.
Quote from: yellowcard on September 05, 2015, 09:29:29 PM
Would have Kerry as slight favourites but it's not far off a toss of the coin game. As a neutral I'll be rooting for the Dubs.
Dublin 5/6 Kerry 6/5 according to the bookies.
Quote from: BennyCake on September 05, 2015, 06:42:45 PM
Another AI final day looking and listening to those scummy b**tards on the hill. I'd rather see Tyrone in it. I hope Kerry bloody stuff them.
Go off and lick geezers stamp and bag you bitter bafoon
Cannot see us winning.
One thing though I think in our favour is the pressure on Kerry players not to lose to us 3 times on the trot. For all their AI medals, if and I am being ferociously optimistic here we beat them in a fortnight their AI medals will mean f all to the Kerry GAA public.
To be honest kerry and Tyrone were so far ahead of the kamikaze albeit enjoyable football we have seen I fancy kerry by 10.
Quote from: rrhf on September 06, 2015, 12:11:33 AM
To be honest kerry and Tyrone were so far ahead of the kamikaze albeit enjoyable football we have seen I fancy kerry by 10.
Dublin would stuff Tyrone
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Quote from: yellowcard on September 05, 2015, 09:29:29 PM
Would have Kerry as slight favourites but it's not far off a toss of the coin game. As a neutral I'll be rooting for the Dubs.
Dublin 5/6 Kerry 6/5 according to the bookies.
Dublin, not a hope. Lump on Kerry.
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Quote from: BennyCake on September 05, 2015, 06:42:45 PM
Another AI final day looking and listening to those scummy b**tards on the hill. I'd rather see Tyrone in it. I hope Kerry bloody stuff them.
Go off and lick geezers stamp and bag you bitter bafoon
Another Hill regular, I see
Quote from: INDIANA on September 05, 2015, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 05, 2015, 06:42:45 PM
Another AI final day looking and listening to those scummy b**tards on the hill. I'd rather see Tyrone in it. I hope Kerry bloody stuff them.
Cheers Benny.
No bigger scumbags the then Tyrone fans on the Hill in fairness. Plenty of lads just out of jail for various crimes far worse then some of the inhabitants on the Hill today. So I'd imagine both sets of scum would get on well.
We're here to talk about the match and since you're not in it (again)- might be best to toddle off and start your own anti-Dub thread. I'm sure you'll get plenty of Northern contributors, laoislad and Leo. Usual suspects from shite counties
What the feck are you on about?
I think you'll find it's 31 other counties that hate the Dubs
This will be remembered as the money All-Ireland, with a new National Anthem (https://youtu.be/ETxmCCsMoD0?t=33)
(https://pixabay.com/static/uploads/photo/2014/09/01/11/01/money-glut-432688_640.jpg)
Are any of you boys that think Kerry are certs punters? How big a price you willing to offer? I've a decent bet on the Dubs already but if anyone thinks Kerry are certs and fancy offering a nice price i'll gladly go in again.
It will be Dublin 3-12 Kerry 1-15
Before the replay, and if for example the Dubs crept over the line last week with a one point victory , I would have favoured Kerry to shade it in the final. Now, however I believe the Dubs have the stuff to defeat Kerry , and have no doubt that this will come to pass on Sept. 20th-they are a class act, and Jim Gavin is their ace in the hole. Dubs forever
Fancy the Dubs to win this and hope they do. Nothing against Kerry but they've enough AI and if Mayo weren't to win it then Dublin are my second choice. Should be a great game but can't see the Kerry backs managing enough of the Dublin forwards though Flynn needs to find his mojo and Gavin needs to drop Rock who ain't up to it.
Quote from: rrhf on September 06, 2015, 12:11:33 AM
To be honest kerry and Tyrone were so far ahead of the kamikaze albeit enjoyable football we have seen I fancy kerry by 10.
Tyrone have won nothing.
You lost to Donegal team that couldn't beat Mayo. On the way you beat luminaries like Meath, Tipperary and Sligo.
You wouldn't beat Dublin any day of the week at present.
Quote from: orangeman on September 05, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 05, 2015, 09:29:29 PM
Would have Kerry as slight favourites but it's not far off a toss of the coin game. As a neutral I'll be rooting for the Dubs.
Dublin 5/6 Kerry 6/5 according to the bookies.
Free money. Dubs won't be bate.
Its hard to see where the optimism for a Dublin win is coming from.
When you match both sides up Kerry have the edge.
Kerry will push up and force us to kick long.............. They have the best midfield pairing in the land, huge task but not impossible
Any news on Cian Sullivan, pulled up with the Hamie, hopefully just cramp
Quote from: INDIANA on September 06, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
Its hard to see where the optimism for a Dublin win is coming from.
When you match both sides up Kerry have the edge.
What have Kerry done in the championship this season that is worrying to show they can't be beaten?
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 06, 2015, 01:03:10 PM
Kerry will push up and force us to kick long.............. They have the best midfield pairing in the land, huge task but not impossible
Any news on Cian Sullivan, pulled up with the Hamie, hopefully just cramp
The space Kerry will leave in their back line when they push up will be heaven for the Dublin forwards. Five goals over two games against a better Mayo FB line that rarely utilised the spare man to push up on Cluxton.
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 06, 2015, 01:03:10 PM
Kerry will push up and force us to kick long.............. They have the best midfield pairing in the land, huge task but not impossible
Any news on Cian Sullivan, pulled up with the Hamie, hopefully just cramp
The space Kerry will leave in their back line when they push up will be heaven for the Dublin forwards. Five goals over two games against a better Mayo FB line that rarely utilised the spare man to push up on Cluxton.
Space is only exploited if you have the ball. With their midfield we may not see much of it
One thing for certain, Kerry will push up and do so without exposing the backline. Stephen Cluxton can become frustrated and erratic as evident in the past so it's a must for Kerry. This is the winning and losing of the game. On the other side I expect Dublin to allow Kerry go short and attack them at base, should be an intriguing contest.
Spooferus writing off Kerry again I see.
Probably thinks any team that bet his favourite Rhubarbs must be great altogether ::)
Quote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2015, 10:55:54 AM
Spooferus writing off Kerry again I see.
Probably thinks any team that bet his favourite Rhubarbs must be great altogether ::)
Yeah. I'm sorry. That Kerry back line looks stellar. I really don't see how substandard players like Kilkenny, Brogan and Connolly will be able to score on them.
The only question for me is Dublin getting enough of the ball to capitalise on their matchup advantages up front.
Quote from: Syferus on September 07, 2015, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2015, 10:55:54 AM
Spooferus writing off Kerry again I see.
Probably thinks any team that bet his favourite Rhubarbs must be great altogether ::)
Yeah. I'm sorry. That Kerry back line looks stellar. I really don't see how substandard players like Kilkenny, Brogan and Connolly will be able to score on them.
The only question for me is Dublin getting enough of the ball to capitalise on their matchup advantages up front.
You don't think James O Donghue has an advantage over Cooper ? Fair enough!
Cian O Sullivan is struggling to be fit for the final
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Quote from: Syferus on September 07, 2015, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2015, 10:55:54 AM
Spooferus writing off Kerry again I see.
Probably thinks any team that bet his favourite Rhubarbs must be great altogether ::)
Yeah. I'm sorry. That Kerry back line looks stellar. I really don't see how substandard players like Kilkenny, Brogan and Connolly will be able to score on them.
The only question for me is Dublin getting enough of the ball to capitalise on their matchup advantages up front.
You don't think James O Donghue has an advantage over Cooper ? Fair enough!
Cian O Sullivan is struggling to be fit for the final
Never said that. Just that Dublin have more match-up advantages. Dublin's defence isn't great but it is better than Kerry's so what I see is one team having a better defence and a better attack than the other. Only frailties in the middle can derail Dublin in the final. I assume Fitzmaurice will try to apply the pressure to Cluxton that Connelly/Holmes didn't bother with given those circumstances.
Dubs need to be careful about the backchat. I'm sure Gavin spent all last week drilling home the message about dissent, but yet again they had 2 Mayo frees move into very scoreable territory for that same offence.
It could be the losing of a tight final.
for kerry this represents a stepping stone in reclaiming the team of the decade title for the first time since the 1980s,, and who would bet against them..fair play to them..
Quote from: rrhf on September 07, 2015, 12:29:56 PM
for kerry this represents a stepping stone in reclaiming the team of the decade title for the first time since the 1980s,, and who would bet against them..fair play to them..
Yawn.
It's going to be a fascinating final, and I think there'll be space. I think Dublin should try run a bit more through the middle against Kerry. MDMC would wreak havoc there on a gallop, Fenton looks like he likes to do that, and the likes of McCaffery should be ideal for it too.
I don't think the direct ball in all the time will work, because I actually think the Kerry FB line match up fairly well 1 v 1. Paul Murphy will probably pick up Brogan, Enright on Rock (if he keeps his place) and O'Se on Andrews. I think Kerry can be exploited through the middle, and Diarmuid Connolly should have too much for Lyne. Crowley isn't a real stopper sort of centre back, and Killian Young would have his hands full with Flynn (if Flynn can get a performance out of himself). Either way, that half back line won't want to be run at, and Maher/Moran will not want to be expending energy towards their own goals.
For Kerry's part, I expect them to have joy as well up front. They will, surely, try to get Cluxton to kick long. They've done well on his kickouts in the past and I think they'll pressure them again. I expect Gooch to operate out around the 40 and try pull the strings. Connolly or Flynn won't deploy as sweepers, so there should be a bit of space for him to try and pick a pass. O'Donoghue and Geaney (say) will fancy 1 v 1 on anyone in the country. I could see Donaghy starting to try and pressure O'Carroll, but I think that limits Kerry. I think he'll be sprung from the bench.
It should be a great game, and I expect it to overshadow the hurling to be honest.
Fascinating is right and the build up will see some amount of speculation.
Will Cian O'Sullivan be fit to start?
Does Rock keep his place? Kerry will cough up more scorable frees than Mayo did but Rock's rock solid dependability from frees disappeared over the course of both games. With Cluxton looking like he's carrying an injury will Connolly take long range ones?
Do Kerry push up on the kickouts? For me they mark tight enough inside to ensure they don't go short but be ready to belt it back outside for the breaking ball. Outside they mark zonally to discourage those runs.
How do Kerry play against Dublin's sweeper? I'd agree with AZ and keep Donaghy on the bench, kick to the corners for O'Donoghue and Geaney.
Do Kerry zonally defend the scoring zone or do they track the runners like Philly Mc through it?
Can Dublin manage to get more ball to their inside line? By dropping a man back they are struggling to turn balls over in the middle third.
Will be a lot of tossing and turning in both camps over the next couple of weeks.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 07, 2015, 12:50:46 PM
It's going to be a fascinating final, and I think there'll be space. I think Dublin should try run a bit more through the middle against Kerry. MDMC would wreak havoc there on a gallop, Fenton looks like he likes to do that, and the likes of McCaffery should be ideal for it too.
I don't think the direct ball in all the time will work, because I actually think the Kerry FB line match up fairly well 1 v 1. Paul Murphy will probably pick up Brogan, Enright on Rock (if he keeps his place) and O'Se on Andrews. I think Kerry can be exploited through the middle, and Diarmuid Connolly should have too much for Lyne. Crowley isn't a real stopper sort of centre back, and Killian Young would have his hands full with Flynn (if Flynn can get a performance out of himself). Either way, that half back line won't want to be run at, and Maher/Moran will not want to be expending energy towards their own goals.
For Kerry's part, I expect them to have joy as well up front. They will, surely, try to get Cluxton to kick long. They've done well on his kickouts in the past and I think they'll pressure them again. I expect Gooch to operate out around the 40 and try pull the strings. Connolly or Flynn won't deploy as sweepers, so there should be a bit of space for him to try and pick a pass. O'Donoghue and Geaney (say) will fancy 1 v 1 on anyone in the country. I could see Donaghy starting to try and pressure O'Carroll, but I think that limits Kerry. I think he'll be sprung from the bench.
It should be a great game, and I expect it to overshadow the hurling to be honest.
Murphy would be destroyed physically by Brogan, just look at what McBrearty did when he came on last year against Murphy. He had two points off him in a number of minutes and they had to switch him off McBrearty. I wouldn't be surprised if Murphy doesn't start for Kerry, Bradley have him a torrid time last day out.
I know he ended the game with 1-2 but I think that Philly McMahon's ill discipline could be the losing of the game v Kerry.
While Jack McCaffrey has had a great year, and James McCarthy had one of his best games in blue at the weekend (after a mediocre, injury interuppted year) I am most worried about Donnchadh Walsh and Stephen O'Brien. I'd fear they could cause us a lot of problems, which could have knock-on effect for the lads inside.
On the opposite side I'm not sure Kerry have anyone to handle Diarmuid Connolly, and Kilkenny should cause them problems too. Pity Flynn is playing so bad.
David Coldrick has got the gig: http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0809151301-referees-for-all-ireland-football-finals-confirmed/
Quote from: Gaaggle on September 08, 2015, 04:29:02 PM
David Coldrick has got the gig: http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0809151301-referees-for-all-ireland-football-finals-confirmed/
Notoriously pro kerry and anti Dublin, another 16 man job, Coldrick can be easily influenced by the Kerry players who constantly surround refs.
Upset Dublinjoe didn't get the gig? ;D
I'd have liked Marty to get it myself.
Quote from: Syferus on September 08, 2015, 06:42:43 PM
I'd have liked Marty to get it myself.
;D
Only our own Ollie K could do a better feckup :)
Quote from: Rossfan on September 08, 2015, 06:34:14 PM
Upset Dublinjoe didn't get the gig? ;D
God know, anyone but Joe but hear he's back up ref.
As long as they crack down hard on players influencing referees e.g Donaghy.
Best of luck to Dublin, I hope Spillane is ranting and raving if Dublin win with only a point or two to spare!!!
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Quote from: Rossfan on September 08, 2015, 06:34:14 PM
Upset Dublinjoe didn't get the gig? ;D
God know, anyone but Joe but hear he's back up ref.
As long as they crack down hard on players influencing referees e.g Donaghy.
Philly mcmahon did some conversing with kinsella saturday too so coldrick's ears will be sore...
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 08, 2015, 06:03:20 PM
Quote from: Gaaggle on September 08, 2015, 04:29:02 PM
David Coldrick has got the gig: http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0809151301-referees-for-all-ireland-football-finals-confirmed/
Notoriously pro kerry and anti Dublin, another 16 man job, Coldrick can be easily influenced by the Kerry players who constantly surround refs.
You should take a look at the league match in 2014, that should change your opinion rapidly. How they have choosen a referee living and working in Dublin is beyond me.
Quote from: Seamus on September 09, 2015, 02:14:13 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 08, 2015, 06:03:20 PM
Quote from: Gaaggle on September 08, 2015, 04:29:02 PM
David Coldrick has got the gig: http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0809151301-referees-for-all-ireland-football-finals-confirmed/
Notoriously pro kerry and anti Dublin, another 16 man job, Coldrick can be easily influenced by the Kerry players who constantly surround refs.
You should take a look at the league match in 2014, that should change your opinion rapidly. How they have choosen a referee living and working in Dublin is beyond me.
It's not as if GAA HQ would want Dublin to win or the like ::)
Would enjoy the reaction if they had picked a ref living and working in Killarney.
Quote from: Keane on September 09, 2015, 12:38:06 PM
Would enjoy the reaction if they had picked a ref living and working in Killarney.
If such a man was from Cork we'd be delighted, because the last thing he'd want would be to listen to all the Killarney yahoos crowing about yet another All Ireland!
Quote from: Keane on September 09, 2015, 12:38:06 PM
Would enjoy the reaction if they had picked a ref living and working in Killarney.
Isn't his wife a Kerry woman? Surely he'd favour his wife's county over the county he lives in, especially as he's a Meath man and that county in question is Dublin.
Or maybe he'll just ref the fecking game as best he can without favouring anyone. Jaysus.
Jeez, never heard Kerry getting ratty about the choice of a referee before.
When I wonder do all the "injury worries" or "trouble in the camp" stories begin? Wouldn't be an AIF with Kerry in it without it.
Too early. Maybe Tuesday of next week.
Is the schelping in training not usually a couple of weeks before the game?
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 09, 2015, 01:52:06 PM
Is the schelping in training not usually a couple of weeks before the game?
That's usually in July/August.
slightly off track here but does anyone have the list of top scorers for SFC as of today. I know Quigley is clear at the top but not so sure he is home and dry with the final to play...
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 02:04:52 PM
slightly off track here but does anyone have the list of top scorers for SFC as of today. I know Quigley is clear at the top but not so sure he is home and dry with the final to play...
http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/2015-golden-hurl-golden-boot/
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Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 02:04:52 PM
slightly off track here but does anyone have the list of top scorers for SFC as of today. I know Quigley is clear at the top but not so sure he is home and dry with the final to play...
http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/2015-golden-hurl-golden-boot/
Thanks General but I seen that earlier - it hasn't been updated since early August !!!!
BB scored 6 in the two SFs leaving him on 37 so he needs 5 to draw level
COC is on 40 in second I think
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 03:55:48 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 09, 2015, 03:45:09 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 02:04:52 PM
slightly off track here but does anyone have the list of top scorers for SFC as of today. I know Quigley is clear at the top but not so sure he is home and dry with the final to play...
http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/2015-golden-hurl-golden-boot/
Thanks General but I seen that earlier - it hasn't been updated since early August !!!!
Here Mikhailov. This was posted by the GPA last night.
https://twitter.com/gaelicplayers/status/641311071261847552
BB has all his from play too
Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
2011 rankles a bit but I don't think 2013 rankles in the least.
Quote from: Canalman on September 10, 2015, 04:41:05 PM
Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
Current team has a bit to go to beat the 70's team in my opinion
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Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 03:55:48 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 09, 2015, 03:45:09 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 02:04:52 PM
slightly off track here but does anyone have the list of top scorers for SFC as of today. I know Quigley is clear at the top but not so sure he is home and dry with the final to play...
http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/2015-golden-hurl-golden-boot/
Thanks General but I seen that earlier - it hasn't been updated since early August !!!!
Here Mikhailov. This was posted by the GPA last night.
https://twitter.com/gaelicplayers/status/641311071261847552
Surely only scores from play should count towards Golden Boot?
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 10, 2015, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: Gaaggle on September 09, 2015, 04:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 03:55:48 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 09, 2015, 03:45:09 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 02:04:52 PM
slightly off track here but does anyone have the list of top scorers for SFC as of today. I know Quigley is clear at the top but not so sure he is home and dry with the final to play...
http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/2015-golden-hurl-golden-boot/
Thanks General but I seen that earlier - it hasn't been updated since early August !!!!
Here Mikhailov. This was posted by the GPA last night.
https://twitter.com/gaelicplayers/status/641311071261847552
Surely only scores from play should count towards Golden Boot?
And definitely only ones scored in Croke Park, Blue!!
Quote from: Syferus on September 10, 2015, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 10, 2015, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: Gaaggle on September 09, 2015, 04:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 03:55:48 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 09, 2015, 03:45:09 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 09, 2015, 02:04:52 PM
slightly off track here but does anyone have the list of top scorers for SFC as of today. I know Quigley is clear at the top but not so sure he is home and dry with the final to play...
http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/2015-golden-hurl-golden-boot/
Thanks General but I seen that earlier - it hasn't been updated since early August !!!!
Here Mikhailov. This was posted by the GPA last night.
https://twitter.com/gaelicplayers/status/641311071261847552
Surely only scores from play should count towards Golden Boot?
And definitely only ones scored in Croke Park, Blue!!
And only scores from play should count for MOTM awards.
Also only scores against division 1 opponents should count.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 10, 2015, 09:04:52 PM
Surely only scores from play should count towards Golden Boot?
Agreed. O'Connor is no 2 on that list, because Dublin are lazy, sloppy tacklers and they gave away far to many frees in easily scoreable positions. By all means, give out an overall award for top scorer, as there is some merit in being to kick frees consistently, but the Golden Boot should be reserved from scores from play.
So it's done and dusted then.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/dublin-have-no-more-secrets-says-jack-oconnor-353045.html
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 11, 2015, 11:15:35 AM
So it's done and dusted then.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/dublin-have-no-more-secrets-says-jack-oconnor-353045.html
Jacko is just bitter. Probably makes the kids at school watch the last ten minutes of the 2011 final when they are bold
I hope he gets the Kerry job again he's past his sell by date
He's not Jacko. He's just Jack. Jacko is Jack O'Shea. Micko is Mick O'Dwyer. Mick O'Connell is just Mick. It's complicated down there :)
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Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 11, 2015, 11:15:35 AM
So it's done and dusted then.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/dublin-have-no-more-secrets-says-jack-oconnor-353045.html
Jacko is just bitter. Probably makes the kids at school watch the last ten minutes of the 2011 final when they are bold
I hope he gets the Kerry job again he's past his sell by date
Don't know about him being past his sell by date. He's done an unreal job with the minors, and will be U21 boss next year.
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Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
Current team has a bit to go to beat the 70's team in my opinion
70s the time you won all your All-Irelands? :-\
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So it's done and dusted then.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/dublin-have-no-more-secrets-says-jack-oconnor-353045.html
Jacko is just bitter. Probably makes the kids at school watch the last ten minutes of the 2011 final when they are bold
I hope he gets the Kerry job again he's past his sell by date
Don't know about him being past his sell by date. He's done an unreal job with the minors, and will be U21 boss next year.
AZ,
Will respectfully disagree with you regarding his efforts with Kerry Minors.
All he has done is copied the Jim McGunness template and drilled it into the heads of 17 and 18 year olds.
I saw this first hand at the semi-final V Derry. I was shocked, that Kerry where by all accounts the generate very naturally talented footballers, were now being programmed how to play Gaelic football at 17 and 18 years of age.
At times they had 12 or 13 inside their own half against a very very limited Derry team, who on the day should have beaten by 10points with a little bit of flair etc. It was that horrible and mesmerizing to watch that I turned and asked a Kerryman who was seated behind me, "are Kerry people ok with their minors playing like this" He shrugged his shoulders and said I suppose so, but sure aren't they winning.
I am going back for final next week, I have never said or done this in my life, but I will avoid the minor final.
It does not do a lot for me to watch a game at minor level, where in my mind kids should be encouraged to go out and express themselves, at the same time, making smart intelligent decisions, but are now subjected to placating the ego of a manager.
I would love to chat with some of that team off the record when they turn 19 and ask the did they enjoy playing minor football under Jack or Jacko connor.
Thank God it's Friday or I could have gone on more.
Tactical football is creeping into it, no doubt about it, but it's my opinion that the Kerry minors are still the benchmark in terms of the skills of the game. Look at the beautiful, fluid kicking style you see from their players. They still played long, low ball into moving forwards, who were able to win the ball out in front and kick beautiful scores. I'm certainly not seeing them choking the life out of the game.
Shock! Horror! Kerry doing what it takes to win football matches :o
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 11, 2015, 01:49:49 PM
Tactical football is creeping into it, no doubt about it, but it's my opinion that the Kerry minors are still the benchmark in terms of the skills of the game. Look at the beautiful, fluid kicking style you see from their players. They still played long, low ball into moving forwards, who were able to win the ball out in front and kick beautiful scores. I'm certainly not seeing them choking the life out of the game.
Did you see the game by chance, they were like robots, they had half back and half forward in possession 30 -35 yards out with a clear shooting opportunity, but it was pretty apparent that they were told, you are not to shoot for a point, so they passed it around again and again and again.
Call me crazy, but I would say if they gave an honest answer, they do not like playing like that.
Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating shooting from the corner flag, but sweet Jesus, that was horrible to watch.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 11, 2015, 01:54:25 PM
Shock! Horror! Kerry doing what it takes to win football matches :o
if your end game is advocating programming 16, 17 and 18 year olds. Good luck to you. Hope you are never allowed to coach.
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Quote from: AZOffaly on September 11, 2015, 01:49:49 PM
Tactical football is creeping into it, no doubt about it, but it's my opinion that the Kerry minors are still the benchmark in terms of the skills of the game. Look at the beautiful, fluid kicking style you see from their players. They still played long, low ball into moving forwards, who were able to win the ball out in front and kick beautiful scores. I'm certainly not seeing them choking the life out of the game.
Did you see the game by chance, they were like robots, they had half back and half forward in possession 30 -35 yards out with a clear shooting opportunity, but it was pretty apparent that they were told, you are not to shoot for a point, so they passed it around again and again and again.
Call me crazy, but I would say if they gave an honest answer, they do not like playing like that.
Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating shooting from the corner flag, but sweet Jesus, that was horrible to watch.
I will watch it back again but that didnt stand out to me i have to say. In fact i saw lovely scores from wing backs centre field and forwards. I saw corner forwards getting the ball from a long pass and languidly kicking it over the bar.
I think they still teach the skills fairly well.
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Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
Current team has a bit to go to beat the 70's team in my opinion
70s the time you won all your All-Irelands? :-\
Would explain my bias ! . However that Dublin team beat the best team of all time three times . Not sure the current crew can claim that
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Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
Current team has a bit to go to beat the 70's team in my opinion
70s the time you won all your All-Irelands? :-\
Would explain my bias ! . However that Dublin team beat the best team of all time three times . Not sure the current crew can claim that
Kerry Weere no where near their height in the 70s. A bit facetious to call those teams the greatest ever. Dublin were the big dogs in most of those matches, and they lost one of them to that team when they were a bunch of tikes.
And anyway, that Kerry team was shite , right Syferus? :)
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Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
Current team has a bit to go to beat the 70's team in my opinion
70s the time you won all your All-Irelands? :-\
Would explain my bias ! . However that Dublin team beat the best team of all time three times . Not sure the current crew can claim that
Did they beat them three times?
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Quote from: Canalman on September 10, 2015, 04:41:05 PM
Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
Current team has a bit to go to beat the 70's team in my opinion
70s the time you won all your All-Irelands? :-\
Would explain my bias ! . However that Dublin team beat the best team of all time three times . Not sure the current crew can claim that
"only" beat them twice. Fairly hammered by them the other 3 times.
If (and I am indulging myself here) Dublin win this year, imo they will have the right to call themselves the best ever Dublin team.
Lose as looks likely ,again imo, they won't.
Quote from: Canalman on September 11, 2015, 03:30:18 PM
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Quote from: Canalman on September 10, 2015, 04:41:05 PM
Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
Current team has a bit to go to beat the 70's team in my opinion
70s the time you won all your All-Irelands? :-\
Would explain my bias ! . However that Dublin team beat the best team of all time three times . Not sure the current crew can claim that
"only" beat them twice. Fairly hammered by them the other 3 times.
If (and I am indulging myself here) Dublin win this year, imo they will have the right to call themselves the best ever Dublin team.
Lose as looks likely ,again imo, they won't.
I just don't see what great sides the current team has beaten . A lot of the players involved spent their time getting their arses handed to them by Kerry and Tyrone . This is not a stellar year in terms of quality . Neither was 2013. Arguably can claim 2011 as it was still a very good Kerry side.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 11, 2015, 03:27:23 PM
And anyway, that Kerry team was shite , right Syferus? :)
:D ;D :)
Syf was born in 1999 ;)
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 10, 2015, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: Canalman on September 10, 2015, 04:41:05 PM
Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
Current team has a bit to go to beat the 70's team in my opinion
70s the time you won all your All-Irelands? :-\
Would explain my bias ! . However that Dublin team beat the best team of all time three times . Not sure the current crew can claim that
"only" beat them twice. Fairly hammered by them the other 3 times.
If (and I am indulging myself here) Dublin win this year, imo they will have the right to call themselves the best ever Dublin team.
Lose as looks likely ,again imo, they won't.
I just don't see what great sides the current team has beaten . A lot of the players involved spent their time getting their arses handed to them by Kerry and Tyrone . This is not a stellar year in terms of quality . Neither was 2013. Arguably can claim 2011 as it was still a very good Kerry side.
How many of the current dublin team have been on teams beaten by Tyrone in the championship? There wouldn't be very many surely? I'm sure at most 3 or 4?
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 10, 2015, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: Canalman on September 10, 2015, 04:41:05 PM
Would fear for our full back line tbh. Might be changes there on a horses for courses basis with Fitzsimons to come in.
Very big game for both counties imo. Dublin on the cusp of being our greatest ever team with Kerry anxious to dispel the "soft All Ireland winners" moniker. For them losing to Dublin 3 times in a row would be downright shameful.
At least the guff of "Yerra shur we love the Dubs" won't be aired. Last 2 defeats rankle down there.
Kerry by 4 I think.
Current team has a bit to go to beat the 70's team in my opinion
70s the time you won all your All-Irelands? :-\
Would explain my bias ! . However that Dublin team beat the best team of all time three times . Not sure the current crew can claim that
"only" beat them twice. Fairly hammered by them the other 3 times.
If (and I am indulging myself here) Dublin win this year, imo they will have the right to call themselves the best ever Dublin team.
Lose as looks likely ,again imo, they won't.
I just don't see what great sides the current team has beaten . A lot of the players involved spent their time getting their arses handed to them by Kerry and Tyrone . This is not a stellar year in terms of quality . Neither was 2013. Arguably can claim 2011 as it was still a very good Kerry side.
How many of the current dublin team have been on teams beaten by Tyrone in the championship? There wouldn't be very many surely? I'm sure at most 3 or 4?
10 from the 2009 hiding by Kerry between starters and guys who came on.
If the history books repeat themselves, Kerry will win the All Ireland, and here's the reason why......In 1955, Dublin and Mayo drew in the semi final, Dublin won the replay, Kerry won the All Ireland....30 Years later in 1985, Dublin and Mayo drew in the semi final, Dublin again won the replay, and Kerry won the All Ireland.....Another 30 years later in 2015, Dublin and Mayo again drew the semi final, Dublin again won the replay, and........
Quote from: Shrewdness on September 11, 2015, 08:59:02 PM
If the history books repeat themselves, Kerry will win the All Ireland, and here's the reason why......In 1955, Dublin and Mayo drew in the semi final, Dublin won the replay, Kerry won the All Ireland....30 Years later in 1985, Dublin and Mayo drew in the semi final, Dublin again won the replay, and Kerry won the All Ireland.....Another 30 years later in 2015, Dublin and Mayo again drew the semi final, Dublin again won the replay, and........
you're 3 weeks out of date. i posted that weeks ago
Quote from: Shrewdness on September 11, 2015, 08:59:02 PM
If the history books repeat themselves, Kerry will win the All Ireland, and here's the reason why......In 1955, Dublin and Mayo drew in the semi final, Dublin won the replay, Kerry won the All Ireland....30 Years later in 1985, Dublin and Mayo drew in the semi final, Dublin again won the replay, and Kerry won the All Ireland.....Another 30 years later in 2015, Dublin and Mayo again drew the semi final, Dublin again won the replay, and........
You've been talking to Mystic Meg?
Quote from: INDIANA on September 11, 2015, 09:01:01 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on September 11, 2015, 08:59:02 PM
If the history books repeat themselves, Kerry will win the All Ireland, and here's the reason why......In 1955, Dublin and Mayo drew in the semi final, Dublin won the replay, Kerry won the All Ireland....30 Years later in 1985, Dublin and Mayo drew in the semi final, Dublin again won the replay, and Kerry won the All Ireland.....Another 30 years later in 2015, Dublin and Mayo again drew the semi final, Dublin again won the replay, and........
you're 3 weeks out of date. i posted that weeks ago
You could not possibly done so !! 3 weeks ago dublin and mayo had not met in the 2015 semi final , let alone drew & let also dublin winning the replay !!!!
Change your name to Nostradamus
Kerry also beat Dublin in 1925 but it was as part of the 1924 All-Ireland that got delayed. That time Kerry beat Mayo in the semi final.
Plus Kerry win 1 in every 3 All-Ireland's and they have a fantastic team this year.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 12, 2015, 12:10:32 PM
Plus Kerry win 1 in every 3 All-Ireland's and they have a fantastic team this year.
They went 5 years without winning one between 2009 and 2014.
Pass level Maths in the Leaving? ;)
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Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 12, 2015, 12:10:32 PM
Plus Kerry win 1 in every 3 All-Ireland's and they have a fantastic team this year.
They went 5 years without winning one between 2009 and 2014.
Pass level Maths in the Leaving? ;)
Thats not a very inclusive comment.
Quote from: Beffs on September 12, 2015, 10:56:17 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 12, 2015, 12:10:32 PM
Plus Kerry win 1 in every 3 All-Ireland's and they have a fantastic team this year.
They went 5 years without winning one between 2009 and 2014.
Pass level Maths in the Leaving? ;)
There are only 4 years between 2009 and 2014: 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013. Even foundation level students can count to 4.
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Quote from: Beffs on September 12, 2015, 10:56:17 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 12, 2015, 12:10:32 PM
Plus Kerry win 1 in every 3 All-Ireland's and they have a fantastic team this year.
They went 5 years without winning one between 2009 and 2014.
Pass level Maths in the Leaving? ;)
There are only 4 years between 2009 and 2014: 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013. Even foundation level students can count to 4.
Year 1 - 3rd Sunday in September 2009 to 3rd Sunday in September 2010
Year 2 - 3rd Sunday in September 2010 to 3rd Sunday in September 2011
Year 3 - 3rd Sunday in September 2011 to 3rd Sunday in September 2012
Year 4 - 3rd Sunday in September 2012 to 3rd Sunday in September 2013
Year 5 - 3rd Sunday in September 2013 to 3rd Sunday in September 2014
Explain to me how that isn't 5 full years? I never said
calendar years. ;D
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Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 12, 2015, 12:10:32 PM
Plus Kerry win 1 in every 3 All-Ireland's and they have a fantastic team this year.
They went 5 years without winning one between 2009 and 2014.
Pass level Maths in the Leaving? ;)
There are only 4 years between 2009 and 2014: 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013. Even foundation level students can count to 4.
Year 1 - 3rd Sunday in September 2009 to 3rd Sunday in September 2010
Year 2 - 3rd Sunday in September 2010 to 3rd Sunday in September 2011
Year 3 - 3rd Sunday in September 2011 to 3rd Sunday in September 2012
Year 4 - 3rd Sunday in September 2012 to 3rd Sunday in September 2013
Year 5 - 3rd Sunday in September 2013 to 3rd Sunday in September 2014
Explain to me how that isn't 5 full years? I never said calendar years. ;D
If a competition has been held for only 3 years and team A won it in year 1 and year 3, would you say they went 2 years without winning it? No, they went 1 year without winning.
For the years 1978 to 1986, going by your rationale, Kerry went 3 years without winning an All-Ireland, while anyone else would say they went 2 years without winning an AI (1982 and 1983)
Are Kerry doing swimming training
https://www.facebook.com/134477199934166/videos/870371713011374/
For the Dubs lads, what's the story with yer injuries after the semi final?
Quote from: highorlow on September 14, 2015, 11:50:43 AM
For the Dubs lads, what's the story with yer injuries after the semi final?
Not much coming from the camp. The only confirmed injury I've heard of myself if Cian O'Sullivan's.
Philly McMahon has a sore forehead still.
I'd expect this to be a very tame thread ;D
Always had a big spot for Kerry and hope they win on Sunday. Can't see much it and could be a shoot out between the forwards on both teams.
Hard to call at this stage in the week but think Kerry will sneek it by a point or two.
Quote from: Bingo on September 14, 2015, 12:36:38 PM
I'd expect this to be a very tame thread ;D
Always had a big spot for Kerry and hope they win on Sunday. Can't see much it and could be a shoot out between the forwards on both teams.
Hard to call at this stage in the week but think Kerry will sneek it by a point or two.
True enuff, it will be alot easier to call on Sunday evening
I'd have Dublin by 6 or 7 up to late last week but the injury concerns require a re-think. Dublin will sneak it.
Kerry by 3.
Quote from: highorlow on September 15, 2015, 11:34:17 AM
I'd have Dublin by 6 or 7 up to late last week but the injury concerns require a re-think. Dublin will sneak it.
Injury or injuries ???
Feck this is a slow mover lads 5 days out from an AI final and only at page 8 and most of it nonsense.No real discussion
Come on lads this is the "Classic Final"
Those dublin mayo threads took it out of the dubs.
Not many kerry ones about. You need to be pro palestine to provoke a kerry reaction about here...
Both sides too busy lurking in the long grass.
Yerraing and jayzusing is all you will get (if you are lucky).
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Quote from: Bingo on September 14, 2015, 12:36:38 PM
I'd expect this to be a very tame thread ;D
Always had a big spot for Kerry and hope they win on Sunday. Can't see much it and could be a shoot out between the forwards on both teams.
Hard to call at this stage in the week but think Kerry will sneek it by a point or two.
True enuff, it will be alot easier to call on Sunday evening
Sure you'll know on Sunday morning OmaghJoe, one of these people with Gaago on a tablet on Venice beach.
Dublin have won their last three senior finals by one point. Very little separates Dublin and Kerry this could be the final that Dublin lose by one point.
Hard to know who I'd like to see win this one. Both have won enough.
Dublin slightly more swashbuckling so maybe they get the nod.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 15, 2015, 06:22:32 PM
Dublin have won their last three senior finals by one point. Very little separates Dublin and Kerry this could be the final that Dublin lose by one point.
Jez, one of those finals was in 1995!
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Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 15, 2015, 06:22:32 PM
Dublin have won their last three senior finals by one point. Very little separates Dublin and Kerry this could be the final that Dublin lose by one point.
Jez, one of those finals was in 1995!
Afterall 2011 was their first All Ireland final appearance since 1995.
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Dublin have won their last three senior finals by one point. Very little separates Dublin and Kerry this could be the final that Dublin lose by one point.
Jez, one of those finals was in 1995!
Afterall 2011 was their first All Ireland final appearance since 1995.
Afterall that they've been through....
I know that they fight
A few supporters are full of sh*te
Still it ends alright. :D
I have no idea how this game will go but as the week goes on I am becoming more optimistic that we can do it. Maybe it's because since Jim Gavin took over I've seen Dublin win a lot more often than they have been beaten and that gives you a sense of expectation. And I think that the players have the same belief in themselves. This group of players now includes lads who have been winners since under-age level and they have experience of going all the way.
I know that nothing I've said above guarantees anything but I really feel optimistic.
COYBIB
The 70s nostalgia has punched itself out. Both teams as expected are in final. The two best sets of players and probably best resourced are in final. It should be a decent game but f**k where is the romance and excitement.
Hard to get excited until 3 on Sunday .
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Quote from: omaghjoe on September 15, 2015, 06:47:23 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 14, 2015, 12:36:38 PM
I'd expect this to be a very tame thread ;D
Always had a big spot for Kerry and hope they win on Sunday. Can't see much it and could be a shoot out between the forwards on both teams.
Hard to call at this stage in the week but think Kerry will sneek it by a point or two.
True enuff, it will be alot easier to call on Sunday evening
Sure you'll know on Sunday morning OmaghJoe, one of these people with Gaago on a tablet on Venice beach.
Ha.. thats a myth/reality senario if I ever seen one.
To do that would involve going through this
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to get to this
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I'll be sittin in the house watching it
Quote from: ashman on September 16, 2015, 12:58:34 AM
The 70s nostalgia has punched itself out.
We'll always have the Memories!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNzBiW8CGOw
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 16, 2015, 06:05:05 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 15, 2015, 06:18:38 PM
Sure you'll know on Sunday morning OmaghJoe, one of these people with Gaago on a tablet on Venice beach.
Ha.. thats a myth/reality senario if I ever seen one.
To do that would involve going through this
Jamedy, it surely isn't that bad at 7am on a Sunday!
Think this will be a tight game with possibly Dublin edging it.
Just hope its a good competitive game and no ould nonsense like diving from Dublin or sinister tackling from Kerry.
Looking forward to it - whats the forecast?
http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/johnny-buckley-coach-firm-convicted-over-drivers-time-31530758.html
Oul slave driver johnny buckley, hopefully we can put a stop to his gallop ;)
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http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/johnny-buckley-coach-firm-convicted-over-drivers-time-31530758.html
Oul slave driver johnny buckley, hopefully we can put a stop to his gallop ;)
No overtime needed on the Rossie bus. ;D
Eoin Brosnan is their solicitor and all.
Wouldn't be surprised if the company were fined 12 All-Ireland medals.
Marc O Se, Paul Murphy and Star dropped to be replaced by Fionn Fitzgerald, Aidan O'Mahony and Paul Geaney. David Moran to lead them out.
www.kerrygaa.ie
I'd be guessing O'Se's being left out because of his lack of pace these days,but why put O' Mahony in there? Will they play both? One sitting just in front of the fullback?
Quote from: Frank Casey on September 17, 2015, 09:14:55 PM
Marc O Se, Paul Murphy and Star dropped to be replaced by Fionn Fitzgerald, Aidan O'Mahony and Paul Geaney. David Moran to lead them out.
www.kerrygaa.ie
Yeah indeed
Kerry generally, but not exclusively, stick to team as selected. Other teams may have to wait for BS appeals to DRC before confirming starting 15
Expected Murphy to be dropped as he's just too weak for any of the Dublin forwards, surprised to see O'Se dropped though.
Some amount of quality on that Kerry bench can't be an easy task to pick a starting fifteen.
Quote from: Frank Casey on September 17, 2015, 09:25:10 PM
Kerry generally, but not exclusively, stick to team as selected. Other teams may have to wait for BS appeals to DRC before confirming starting 15
Are you talking about the DRA and the time Kerry had to wait for a BS appeal with Paul Galvin before confirming their starting 15?
Quote from: heffo on September 17, 2015, 09:41:29 PM
Quote from: Frank Casey on September 17, 2015, 09:25:10 PM
Kerry generally, but not exclusively, stick to team as selected. Other teams may have to wait for BS appeals to DRC before confirming starting 15
Are you talking about the DRA and the time Kerry had to wait for a BS appeal with Paul Galvin before confirming their starting 15?
No, shorter memory than that!
Lads were injured not dropped. Marc's hamstring and Paul's hip.
Quote from: blanketattack on September 17, 2015, 10:25:13 PM
Lads were injured not dropped. Marc's hamstring and Paul's hip.
And Geaney for Donaghy is the right (and easy) call. Now will be interesting to see if COS is fit. If he is it's Dublin by 2 for me.
O'Sulivan doesn't make or break this match in any sense. In fact I might even say he's the poorest of Dublin's HBs, but of course with Jack Mc and McCarthy there that's a very relative statement to make.
O'Se is a big loss for Kerry and I think Dublin will target O'Mahoney who is a potential weak link if left isolated inside against any of the Dublin forwards. The only Dublin forward O'Mahoney would suit will be Rock who can be a passenger from play quite often. As the game gets closer it's harder to split these 2 sides, I wouldn't rule out a draw here.
Lads need some advice heading to Dublin Saturday night staying in a friends house - want to sample the atmosphere out and about on saturday for a short time - one of the mates bringing his 10year old and I think it would be nice for him to see the buzz about the city late evening. Where would be best to go to? Somewhere in O'Connell street? Would like somewhere where I could have a couple of beers - probably a hotel would be best I was thinking as I don't think the 10yo would get into coppers! ;D
COS holds the middle better for Dublin than anyone else will. As shown against Donegal last year and in parts against Mayo the centre of that dubs defense can be got at.
I'm not sure Kerry have the same direct runners though Darren O'Sullivan from the bench could have a bit of fun there.
O'Se dropped or injured?
Geaney fro Donaghy the correct call imo..
There wont be much in it, if Kerry can keep it tight and stay with Dublin who I think will come out all guns blazing, and somewhat curtail McMenamin when he comes on I think they will win by 3 or 4, using the experience they have on the bench ( 24 All Ireland Medals + i think ). If McMenamin has an impact I can see it being very tight and possibly a draw or a last minute Cluxton / Sheehan free to win it.
QuoteI'd be guessing O'Se's being left out because of his lack of pace these days,but why put O' Mahony in there? Will they play both? One sitting just in front of the fullback?
I heard he had a tweak with his hammer.
There was talk during the week that Tommy Walsh would start. Could be the case yet.
Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2015, 08:53:46 AM
Lads need some advice heading to Dublin Saturday night staying in a friends house - want to sample the atmosphere out and about on saturday for a short time - one of the mates bringing his 10year old and I think it would be nice for him to see the buzz about the city late evening. Where would be best to go to? Somewhere in O'Connell street? Would like somewhere where I could have a couple of beers - probably a hotel would be best I was thinking as I don't think the 10yo would get into coppers! ;D
O Connell st on a.Saturday night is too rough for a ten year old. Head for the croke park hotel. That will be lively and often seems to have kids around. Mick Wallaces.restaurant just up jones rd.is a.great Italian if.your looking for grub and caters.for.kids too.
Quote from: whorelindub on September 18, 2015, 03:03:43 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 18, 2015, 08:53:46 AM
Lads need some advice heading to Dublin Saturday night staying in a friends house - want to sample the atmosphere out and about on saturday for a short time - one of the mates bringing his 10year old and I think it would be nice for him to see the buzz about the city late evening. Where would be best to go to? Somewhere in O'Connell street? Would like somewhere where I could have a couple of beers - probably a hotel would be best I was thinking as I don't think the 10yo would get into coppers! ;D
O Connell st on a.Saturday night is too rough for a ten year old. Head for the croke park hotel. That will be lively and often seems to have kids around. Mick Wallaces.restaurant just up jones rd.is a.great Italian if.your looking for grub and caters.for.kids too.
Not sure of the location of the OPs lodgings but you could do worse than spent a couple of hours in the late afternoon/evening at the Kilmacud 7s. I think the final is scheduled usually between 6 and 7PM and there is always a good buzz around it til about 9PM.
Many the happy evenings we had at it before heading on to a messy night in town....
Quote from: yellowcard on September 18, 2015, 12:33:14 AM
O'Se is a big loss for Kerry and I think Dublin will target O'Mahoney who is a potential weak link if left isolated inside against any of the Dublin forwards. The only Dublin forward O'Mahoney would suit will be Rock who can be a passenger from play quite often. As the game gets closer it's harder to split these 2 sides, I wouldn't rule out a draw here.
I'd be very surprised if O'Mahony man marks anyone. He sits as the sweeper in front of the FB line mostly.
Ticket hunt continues. Enjoy the match lads.#COYBIB
11 whole pages. Dublin and Kerry ones keeping their cards close.
If it had only been Tymoan v Mayowestros.............
Sticking to my guns after the semis. Kerry to win, but it will be close. At least I hope it will anyway.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 18, 2015, 06:54:13 PM
Sticking to my guns after the semis. Kerry to win, but it will be close. At least I hope it will anyway.
The one result I can't see is a runaway Kerry win. Too much scoring on the Dublin bench for that to happen.
Dubs team
https://mobile.twitter.com/DubMatchTracker/status/644972919085469696/photo/1
No disrespect to either side but is it just me or is this final pairing lacking something. The best two teams in the country but without a mayo, donegal or tyrone, II'm not really looking forward to this like other years. Maybe it's because both teams have so many titles
No MDM :o
Fenton's a great player but you'd still reckon MD would get the nod over Bastick
Will feature no doubt of course
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 19, 2015, 12:33:43 AM
No MDM :o
Fenton's a great player but you'd still reckon MD would get the nod over Bastick
Will feature no doubt of course
Gavin usually gives numbers 1 to 15 to the lads who started the previous game. It may be the same starting line up for the final, or it may not, so we're still none the wiser really.
I'd be surprised if MDMA doesn't start
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2015, 12:41:01 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 19, 2015, 12:33:43 AM
No MDM :o
Fenton's a great player but you'd still reckon MD would get the nod over Bastick
Will feature no doubt of course
Nothing unusual for the Dubs sure they always start their best player (McMenamin) on the bench.
Who is this McMenamin guy everyone seem to be talking about? Is it the same Kevin McMenamin that played for Donegal in the noughties?
Dont remember any donegal player from the noughties
Wappa used to play off ropers shoulder.
Mc menamen has been probably Dublin most important player for over 5 years. If he was fit enough to play the full match the dubsl would be unstoppable.
Quote from: Seamus on September 19, 2015, 01:46:50 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2015, 12:41:01 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 19, 2015, 12:33:43 AM
No MDM :o
Fenton's a great player but you'd still reckon MD would get the nod over Bastick
Will feature no doubt of course
Nothing unusual for the Dubs sure they always start their best player (McMenamin) on the bench.
Who is this McMenamin guy everyone seem to be talking about? Is it the same Kevin McMenamin that played for Donegal in the noughties?
LOL Forgot about him
If I was McManamon I'd be rightly ragged about the super sub carryon. I sorta see the logic behind it and it nearly always works but FFS the lad should be starting.
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 19, 2015, 08:59:34 AM
LOL Forgot about him
If I was McManamon I'd be rightly ragged about the super sub carryon. I sorta see the logic behind it and it nearly always works but FFS the lad should be starting.
If it's not broke....
I love to see his stats. I'm guessing they fade badly in games he starts.
Got the ticket - due to family circumstances missed 2011 and 2013 finals (though I did get to the Kerry semi in 13). Cannot wait. I'd love to be all "well, as long as we get a good game" about it, but sorry lads - balls to that.
As Heffo said, beating Kerry is like a double All Ireland, so I hope I'm celebrating at 200% capacity tomorrow night. Hope everyone gets a ticket who was looking, and C'MON YOU BOYS IN BLUE!!!
Football final on here tomorrow and we only at pg 12, shows the overload of Ulster and Mayo lads on this board, Tyrone, Mayo been there we be at pg 100 easy.
Kerry to nip it by a point!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 19, 2015, 09:51:38 PM
Football final on here tomorrow and we only at pg 12, shows the overload of Ulster and Mayo lads on this board, Tyrone, Mayo been there we be at pg 100 easy.
Kerry to nip it by a point!
I honestly think it has more to do with the fact that most people across the country are ambivalent towards both teams. They might be football's "big two", but Dublin have never been likeable, and this instalment of Kerry are repulsive.
As it was said on the radio the other evening. If the dubs were playing nazi germany half of ireland would have the black and red banners out
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2015, 10:58:26 PM
Not that it matters one bit, I'm supporting Kerry.
I would definitely have put you down as a Dublin supporter.
COYBIB
Agree with Wobbley - most of us don't really care which of them win and wish 2 other teams were there.
As for me I can't wait for the start of the FBD in 15 weeks.
Hope it's a good tussle anyway.
As said before Kerry by 2.
Quote from: thewobbler on September 19, 2015, 10:46:48 PM
this instalment of Kerry are repulsive.
"Being a Kerryman, in my opinion, is the greatest gift that God can
bestow on any man. When you belong to Kerry you know you have a head
start on the other fellow. In belonging to Kerry you belong to the
elements, to the spheres spinning in the heavens. You belong to history
and language and romance and ancient song. It's almost unbearable being
a Kerryman and it's an awesome responsibility."
John B. Keane
And while I'm getting lyrical.....
Dúchas
You say tradition counts for naught when two teams take the field,
I fear you are mistaken, lad, but the years will make you yield,
And when your hair's as grey as mine, and time has made you old,
Then you'll invoke the truth I spoke of the Kingdom's green and gold.
You cannot box or bottle it, nor grasp it in your hand,
But pride of race and love of place inspire a love of land
Time honoured is our birthright, we'll never break the mould,
It's deep within the soul of us, who wear the green and gold.
Grey lakes and mountains soaring high, Mount Brandon's holy hill,
The little church at Gallerus, our language living still,
The Skellig Rock, stout football stock, they can't be bought or sold,
For our county's fame, we play the game in the Kingdom's green and gold.
And when the battle's fiercest and the fortunes ebb and flow,
We're still alive, we can survive, we never will let go,
For the spirit of our fathers and of stories yet untold,
Will lead us on to victory, in the Kingdom's green and gold.
We savour Kerry victories, we salute a gallant foe
And when we lose, there's no excuse, we pick up our bags and go,
So raise your glass each lad and lass to our warriors brave and bold,
Who again aspire to the Sam Maguire in the Kingdom's green and gold
Quote from: Frank Casey on September 19, 2015, 11:45:15 PM
And while I'm getting lyrical.....
Dúchas
You say tradition counts for naught when two teams take the field,
I fear you are mistaken, lad, but the years will make you yield,
And when your hair's as grey as mine, and time has made you old,
Then you'll invoke the truth I spoke of the Kingdom's green and gold.
You cannot box or bottle it, nor grasp it in your hand,
But pride of race and love of place inspire a love of land
Time honoured is our birthright, we'll never break the mould,
It's deep within the soul of us, who wear the green and gold.
Grey lakes and mountains soaring high, Mount Brandon's holy hill,
The little church at Gallerus, our language living still,
The Skellig Rock, stout football stock, they can't be bought or sold,
For our county's fame, we play the game in the Kingdom's green and gold.
And when the battle's fiercest and the fortunes ebb and flow,
We're still alive, we can survive, we never will let go,
For the spirit of our fathers and of stories yet untold,
Will lead us on to victory, in the Kingdom's green and gold.
We savour Kerry victories, we salute a gallant foe
And when we lose, there's no excuse, we pick up our bags and go,
So raise your glass each lad and lass to our warriors brave and bold,
Who again aspire to the Sam Maguire in the Kingdom's green and gold
Kerry for the verse, Dublin for the Sam Maguire.
I was looking at the club schedule in the county and wondering why the senior semi-finals weren't on this weekend. Then I remembered there was this game.
It definitely feels like a very muted build-up. Doesn't help that it's been a very poor year for competitive and plain good football. Different in the two counties of course but neutral interest has rarely seemed as low for an AI final in my entirely anecdotal experience.
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2015, 11:55:56 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 19, 2015, 11:41:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2015, 10:58:26 PM
Not that it matters one bit, I'm supporting Kerry.
I would definitely have put you down as a Dublin supporter.
COYBIB
Nah, Kerry has a Gaeltacht. Tips the balance.
And yet I'd bet we'd give them a right good battle if the game was speaking as Gailege, given the proliferation of gaelscoils in Dublin. We seem to have a particular high proportion of Dublin hurlers who can speak the native language fluently.
[Although I'm probably more like the Dub hardstation is thinking of. Breaks my heart to send my young lad away to the Gaeltacht for a week. Would be far more beneficial to him to send him away for a week of intensive Maths, or Spanish or German or something useful! For another thread perhaps! ]
Quote from: Frank Casey on September 19, 2015, 11:44:01 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 19, 2015, 10:46:48 PM
this instalment of Kerry are repulsive.
"Being a Kerryman, in my opinion, is the greatest gift that God can
bestow on any man. When you belong to Kerry you know you have a head
start on the other fellow. In belonging to Kerry you belong to the
elements, to the spheres spinning in the heavens. You belong to history
and language and romance and ancient song. It's almost unbearable being
a Kerryman and it's an awesome responsibility."
John B. Keane
Jaysis. That is some steaming pile of self regarding poo. At least we know where Billy Keane inherited his bullshit gene from.
I think all the talk of Fitz being a tactical genius is a bit over the top. At end of day it took 2 fortunate goals last year to beat Donegal. If you look at the statistics they have conceded an awful lot all year and defence looks shaky. Only way I see them tightening it up sufficiently to hold Dublin is bringing almost all bodies back. If they go man to man like against tyrone Dublin will rack up a very high score which Kerry will struggle to match. For all the talk we will see how shrewd eamon is today. I think Dublin will push 7/8 ahead with 10 to go and Kerry might rein them in a bit towards the end but dub winning by 4/5. Mahony and few of others to find the going tough
Quote from: Syferus on September 20, 2015, 01:18:57 AM
I was looking at the club schedule in the county and wondering why the senior semi-finals weren't on this weekend. Then I remembered there was this game.
It definitely feels like a very muted build-up. Doesn't help that it's been a very poor year for competitive and plain good football. Different in the two counties of course but neutral interest has rarely seemed as low for an AI final in my entirely anecdotal experience.
The same apathy existed in the 7os
Hah, I see Hardstation that you use almost the same logic in picking a side as I do!
Best of luck to Paul Geaney & Ciarán Kilkenny :P
And of course Charlie McGeever with the minors! Remember his spell at Harps well.
Off to Croker now!
Que sera, sera.
Come on you boys in Blue
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 20, 2015, 12:24:42 PM
Off to Croker now!
Que sera, sera.
Come on you boys in Blue
Safe travelling on the roads. Oh wait... ;). Good luck anyway.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 20, 2015, 01:02:13 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 20, 2015, 12:24:42 PM
Off to Croker now!
Que sera, sera.
Come on you boys in Blue
Safe travelling on the roads. Oh wait... ;). Good luck anyway.
Farr you posted that message about 4 hours to late for Kerry Supporters and about two and a half hours to early for the Dubs.
Would not like to be standing near this lad today.....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrT2ZeLIAAANF_f.jpg)
......You'd be covered in paint.
There is an interesing stat in the Sunday times about Kerry's toughest opponents
Down are top- played 5, lost 5
Kerry have a 50% win rate against Galway, Throne and Kildare
62% against Cork
63% against Dublin and a whopping 72% against Mayo GHU
Best of luck to both teams today. If dubs win they will have to be recognised as one of the great teams. 3 all Ireland in 5 seasons is unreal.
They are 100% against derry lol
Quote from: seafoid on September 20, 2015, 02:57:35 PM
There is an interesing stat in the Sunday times about Kerry's toughest opponents
Down are top- played 5, lost 5
Kerry have a 50% win rate against Galway, Throne and Kildare
62% against Cork
63% against Dublin and a whopping 72% against Mayo GHU
Galway of course have to go back to the 60's for their last win.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 03:14:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 20, 2015, 02:57:35 PM
There is an interesing stat in the Sunday times about Kerry's toughest opponents
Down are top- played 5, lost 5
Kerry have a 50% win rate against Galway, Throne and Kildare
62% against Cork
63% against Dublin and a whopping 72% against Mayo GHU
Galway of course have to go back to the 60's for their last win.
50 years I believe...
After a bad start Kerry find themselves in front.
Bernard Brogan cant seen to hold onto any ball coming in!
Connolly left the boot in on Cooper there
If this was Tyrone and Monaghan we'd be saying it was shite!!
It is. Conditions aren't helping though.
Quote from: Pub Bore on September 20, 2015, 03:55:44 PM
If this was Tyrone and Monaghan we'd be saying it was shite!!
In fairness it's pissing rain!
It's taken Carney half an hour to say there was no malice in it
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on September 20, 2015, 03:55:44 PM
If this was Tyrone and Monaghan we'd be saying it was shite!!
In fairness it's pissing rain!
Is there a new rule that you're allowed to slide tackle when it's very wet??
Some very bad mistakes so far
Fitzgerald having a mare
Great score from mcmahon
Kerry very poor. Awful wides no ideas going forward and Coldrick doing them no favours
Was looking forward to it but the weather has ruined it! Both teams slipping and sliding and dropping the ball. So unfortunate.
Johnny Cooper and Paddy Andrews have been immense.
Can't understand how Fitzmaurice hasn't switched Fitzgerald off Andrews. He's been taken to the cleaners every time the ball goes in.
Goes to show why I'm not a pundit ;D. Kerry forwards having a nightmare. Conditions awfful.
Lets see what the mighty tactician Eamon Fitz pulls out of the hat at halftime
Boring inevitability about this .
Probably the best forward six in Ireland, yet Kerry are clueless attacking.
As bad as last years All Ireland final hopefully this final isn't decided on a goalkeeper error.
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2015, 04:09:54 PM
The weather has nothing to do with Kerry being completely clueless going forward.
Aye - the three big lads in the midfield keep stepping inside their markers and taking a lateral solo and slowing the game down. The forwards are either furious or they're not showing - can't see enough on TV to say for sure. Kerry have kicked 6 dreadful wides and a couple more under pressure.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 20, 2015, 04:16:02 PM
As bad as last years All Ireland final hopefully this final isn't decided on a goalkeeper error.
Opinions and all that but not even close to beng that bad. Having said that there is 35 mins left so you never know..
Quote from: BennyCake on September 20, 2015, 04:15:06 PM
Probably the best forward six in Ireland, yet Kerry are clueless attacking.
You thinK?
Poorest first half in an AI final I can recall. Very disappointing. Conditions aren't good but that excuse wasn't peddled as strongly for the Tyrone/Kerry semi. Likewise the Kerry/Galway q-final a few years ago was the worst weather I remember but one of the best games.
I'm no fan of Joe but at least he provides some analysis with video proof to back it up. Colm/Pat just spoof shite that any gobshite in a pub could draw up for you.
Buckley not in the game
Joe Brolly loves Tyrone.
Jaysus but he can't shut up about them.
Only a point in it really as Kerry have not yet used up their obligatory soft penalty. Hard to call but Kerry likely to step it up in 2nd half.
Connolly has dropped every ball
Minute + to take a free?
Terrible miss from Flynn
Somehow Kerry only three behind..
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 20, 2015, 04:41:05 PM
Somehow Kerry only three behind..
Yes Dubs should be out of sight
Moran has done that all day long! Only a matter of time before he was caught. So slow in possession.
1:04 to take a free - Cluxton!
If an outfield player took that look to get to and hit a free it would be a hop ball!
Connolly has been absolutely brutal
By the look of the numbers on the Hill, many Dubs have stayed in the pubs today.
Typically cynical stuff from Kerry there. The epitome of puke football
Dublin doing their best to lose this
O'Mahony? Ridiculous
You can forget about Aidan O'Mahoney as a man.
Black card for O'Mahony will suit Kerry.
Ran doesnt help but feck this is pure shite
Quote from: trileacman on September 20, 2015, 04:51:14 PM
You can forget about Aidan O'Mahoney as a man.
Houl on, houl on!
Quote from: trileacman on September 20, 2015, 04:51:14 PM
You can forget about Aidan O'Mahoney as a man.
I want nothing to do with that Michael
This is woeful. Terrible match
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2015, 04:50:55 PM
Nah, forget about the weather. Both teams are just playing shite.
Another poor final to go along with another poor championship. We are told by experts that football is now at its highest standard?
That's that.
Disgraceful from Philly McMahon.
For the aristocrats of football, they are pure shite.
Highlight of the game from Brogan Sen. there
Dublin's All Ireland due mainly to Kerry's ineptitude, awful performance for a Kerry team in a final.
What is wrong with Cluxton?
How to select a man of the match out of this? Throws the all-star selection (nonsense anyway) into chaos as they usually just select 12 players from the final.
Ref giving Dub everything at the end.
Worst all Ireland in memory
Was sure the All-stars would come down to Mayo, Dublin and Kerry but f**k after this Matty Donnelly and more so Conor McManus should be nailed on for one. Aidan O'Shea player of the year?
Is this the worst ever performance by any Kerry team in an AI final? Brutal.
Quote from: BennyHarp on September 20, 2015, 05:06:05 PM
Is this the worst ever performance by any Kerry team in an AI final? Brutal.
Certainly, in recent times anyway. So much for Fitzmaurice's tactical nous
Dubs by far the better team, abysmal from Kerry. 9 points in 75 mins? Fermanagh scored 2-odd
Desperate match
The ball was like a bar of soap, but that was a poor poor game. None of the big star Kerry forwards utilised in any shape or form
Right - time to switch over to see how sh@&e Liverpool are.
That Kerry defence was utter shite
Dublin did their best to keep Kerry in it. 10 points the better team. Philly McMahon deserves a long ban. Terrible game not helped by terrible conditions. Well done Dublin
If Kerry had Cormac Reilly on the pitch they'd have had a better chance!
Biggest evidence that the championship format needs to change. The organised lack of competitively in 2 sides of the draw guarantees safe passage each year. On basic skills alone there will be ejects making arguments that Both teams hardly deserved to be there based on that. Congrats dublin it was a good victory on the day when they were rarely tested
What was McMahon at? He had a good game but he's a tr**p
Terrible game of football but the Dubs are worthy champions over the championship and congratulations to them. Back to back puke performances in AI finals from the "aristocrats".
Quote from: glens73 on September 20, 2015, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on September 20, 2015, 05:06:05 PM
Is this the worst ever performance by any Kerry team in an AI final? Brutal.
Certainly, in recent times anyway. So much for Fitzmaurice's tactical nous
Absolutely - when push came to shove he went for the old guard of Sheehan, O'Sullivan, Donaghy and Galvin.
Doesn't seem to show a lot of faith in his new players.
Quote from: Line Ball on September 20, 2015, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2015, 05:06:28 PM
Time added on is ridiculous.
Common enough in games
yeah, there was very little time for football in added time
congrats to dublin. not every championship is a classic, but they're all for winning
Terrible conditions but pretty woeful game of football all told even allowing for that. Not that the Dubs will care tonight. Scoreline was very flattering to Kerry in the end. Dublin much better throughout virtually.
One of the worst ever All Ireland finals I have ever seen. Jim Gavin has serious CV now with the amount of U21 and senior All Irelands won.
Congrats to the Dubs. They can't control the conditions, but adapted much better than a lot of the Kerry players did. Clearly very worthy champions, once again.
Mayo will be crying in their beer tonight though! Always good enough, but never on the day.
Quote from: J70 on September 20, 2015, 05:20:43 PM
Congrats to the Dubs. They can't control the conditions, but adapted much better than a lot of the Kerry players did. Clearly very worthy champions, once again.
Mayo will be crying in their beer tonight though! Always good enough, but never on the day.
Why?
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 20, 2015, 05:20:43 PM
Congrats to the Dubs. They can't control the conditions, but adapted much better than a lot of the Kerry players did. Clearly very worthy champions, once again.
Mayo will be crying in their beer tonight though! Always good enough, but never on the day.
Why?
I think the next part of the sentence gives my reason.
Well that was very easy for the Dubs. Happy days.
Gavin got the match ups spot on which i was a bit surprised at,i thought Fitzmaurice would have his number but other way around. Dubs could've won by quite a bit more i felt and that with Brogan and Connolly not at their best.
Those 2 Mayo matches were the making of the Dubs.
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 20, 2015, 05:12:12 PM
What was McMahon at? He had a good game but he's a tr**p
Well he is from Ballymun.
Quote from: J70 on September 20, 2015, 05:23:49 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 20, 2015, 05:20:43 PM
Congrats to the Dubs. They can't control the conditions, but adapted much better than a lot of the Kerry players did. Clearly very worthy champions, once again.
Mayo will be crying in their beer tonight though! Always good enough, but never on the day.
Why?
I think the next part of the sentence gives my reason.
I think that most Mayo people realise we were beaten by the better team/squad two weeks ago. As much as most Donegal people would believe they were knocked out by the better team/squad a few weeks ago before that. So to equalte today with a chance missed is a lie. Ye missed yer chance last year because of a terrible mistake by Durcan. Now that was something to cry in your beer about.
Quote from: BennyCake on September 20, 2015, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 20, 2015, 05:12:12 PM
What was McMahon at? He had a good game but he's a tr**p
Well he is from Ballymun.
They all brilliant defenders down there? ???
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 05:29:11 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 20, 2015, 05:23:49 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 20, 2015, 05:20:43 PM
Congrats to the Dubs. They can't control the conditions, but adapted much better than a lot of the Kerry players did. Clearly very worthy champions, once again.
Mayo will be crying in their beer tonight though! Always good enough, but never on the day.
Why?
I think the next part of the sentence gives my reason.
I think that most Mayo people realise we were beaten by the better team/squad two weeks ago. As much as most Donegal people would believe they were knocked out by the better team/squad a few weeks ago before that. So to equalte today with a chance missed is a lie. Ye missed yer chance last year because of a terrible mistake by Durcan. Now that was something to cry in your beer about.
I'm talking about the past five years, not just this year, hence the use of the word "always". Christ the Sunday Game boys just said the same thing a minute ago, saying that Mayo have the players and just needed to work on their tactics.
If you don't agree. fair enough. I know I'd certainly be a bit frustrated to see these teams you always come so agonizingly close against repeatedly winning the whole thing.
And yes, of course we were sick last year, but we were shocked to reach the final in the first place, which still left it a satisfying season overall, especially with the memory of the semi to fall back on.
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Those 2 Mayo matches were the making of the Dubs.
Last year's 2 matches made Kerry too. f**k it.
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Congrats to the Dubs. They can't control the conditions, but adapted much better than a lot of the Kerry players did. Clearly very worthy champions, once again.
Mayo will be crying in their beer tonight though! Always good enough, but never on the day.
Why?
I think the next part of the sentence gives my reason.
I think that most Mayo people realise we were beaten by the better team/squad two weeks ago. As much as most Donegal people would believe they were knocked out by the better team/squad a few weeks ago before that. So to equalte today with a chance missed is a lie. Ye missed yer chance last year because of a terrible mistake by Durcan. Now that was something to cry in your beer about.
I'm talking about the past five years, not just this year, hence the use of the word "always". Christ the Sunday Game boys just said the same thing a minute ago, saying that Mayo have the players and just needed to work on their tactics.
If you don't agree. fair enough. I know I'd certainly be a bit frustrated to see these teams you always come so agonizingly close against repeatedly winning the whole thing.
And yes, of course we were sick last year, but we were shocked to reach the final in the first place, which still left it a satisfying season overall, especially with the memory of the semi to fall back on.
Last year was our (last real) chance! This year was (a bit like yourselves) just seeing how we could compete with the top teams. We did our crying into our beer in the past but not this year.
What McMahon do now? didn't even watch it, watched the All-Black game instead
McMahon looks to have been trying to gouge his fingers into Donaghy's face as he was on the ground picking up ball.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 20, 2015, 05:48:47 PM
What McMahon do now? didn't even watch it, watched the All-Black game instead
Looks like he gouge Donaghys eyes when a few of them had him smothered up.
Farr you must see what the Donegal lad is saying to you. Never has a team came so close in a five year period, it will go down in history , it's not like 96-99 or any other period , it's a fuckin travesty and it's not just our own that think this way, I have spoke to two county players one from Tyrone the other from Monaghan and both said the same thing although the Monaghan star man reckons Mayo are from finished yet.
So, how long of a ban will McMahon be getting for that eye gouging on Donaghy?? Absolutely disgraceful stuff.
My guess is that it won't even be mentioned or else you might get a brief mention on The Sunday Game tonight swiftly followed by a strong defence by Whelan who will no doubt claim that it was accidental and that McMahon is not that type of player.
If someone is consistently involved in incidents and trouble, when exactly does he become that type of player???
Quote from: larryin89 on September 20, 2015, 06:03:06 PM
Farr you must see what the Donegal lad is saying to you. Never has a team came so close in a five year period, it will go down in history , it's not like 96-99 or any other period , it's a fuckin travesty and it's not just our own that think this way, I have spoke to two county players one from Tyrone the other from Monaghan and both said the same thing although the Monaghan star man reckons Mayo are from finished yet.
Let it go man! They're on the slide. Granted we'll win Connacht and go on a decent run to AI Quarter Finals, Semi final or even a final. But there will be no cannister unless we unearth 4/5 players.
Quote from: Cllr Willie Power on September 20, 2015, 06:07:23 PM
So, how long of a ban will McMahon be getting for that eye gouging on Donaghy?? Absolutely disgraceful stuff.
My guess is that it won't even be mentioned or else you might get a brief mention on The Sunday Game tonight swiftly followed by a strong defence by Whelan who will no doubt claim that it was accidental and that McMahon is not that type of player.
If someone is consistently involved in incidents and trouble, when exactly does he become that type of player???
+1
Quote from: Cllr Willie Power on September 20, 2015, 06:07:23 PM
So, how long of a ban will McMahon be getting for that eye gouging on Donaghy?? Absolutely disgraceful stuff.
My guess is that it won't even be mentioned or else you might get a brief mention on The Sunday Game tonight swiftly followed by a strong defence by Whelan who will no doubt claim that it was accidental and that McMahon is not that type of player.
If someone is consistently involved in incidents and trouble, when exactly does he become that type of player???
There was uproar from someone on here after the 1st Mayo game because Whelan sat back and didn't defend any of the Dubs. How can the man win? ::) ???
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Quote from: Cllr Willie Power on September 20, 2015, 06:07:23 PM
So, how long of a ban will McMahon be getting for that eye gouging on Donaghy?? Absolutely disgraceful stuff.
My guess is that it won't even be mentioned or else you might get a brief mention on The Sunday Game tonight swiftly followed by a strong defence by Whelan who will no doubt claim that it was accidental and that McMahon is not that type of player.
If someone is consistently involved in incidents and trouble, when exactly does he become that type of player???
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Ban will be a waste of time and money. What games would he miss? And what are the chances of overturning it? Top Gaa players cannot be banned anymore!
Forget about Cluxton's free kicks, his time wasting on kickouts is crazy. He had the run of Croke Park today.
Dublin had Kerry in their pocket all day, Kerry's five wdies in a row in the first half were a killer.
What's the story re Johnny Cooper? He was the standout player and has been taken off at the three quarter point the last few days.
Quote from: omagh_gael on September 20, 2015, 06:20:26 PM
Forget about Cluxton's free kicks, his time wasting on kickouts is crazy. He had the run of Croke Park today.
Dublin had Kerry in their pocket all day, Kerry's five wdies in a row in the first half were a killer.
What's the story re Johnny Cooper? He was the standout player and has been taken off at the three quarter point the last few days.
Has to be a injury issue!
Ha hes the new Ryan McM, the player we all love to hate, has improved out of all recognise this year. I used to laugh when i seen McMahon lining out,
Dublin have now won 3 all-ireland in 5 years, probably should have won last year too, They have won 3 league title in a row too.They are now stronger that all the others, does another 2/3 Ireland's and greatness await?
Kerry will do a clean out of the old hands, too many good Kerry players coming up and the old guard who havent the legs for it need changed now.
Next year it come down to these 2 again and Mayo, with Tyrone and Donegal an outside bet, the rest may forget about
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Quote from: omagh_gael on September 20, 2015, 06:20:26 PM
Forget about Cluxton's free kicks, his time wasting on kickouts is crazy. He had the run of Croke Park today.
Dublin had Kerry in their pocket all day, Kerry's five wdies in a row in the first half were a killer.
What's the story re Johnny Cooper? He was the standout player and has been taken off at the three quarter point the last few days.
Has to be a injury issue!
I'd agree he can't have been brought off for any other reason today.
Safe journey home to all the Dublin supporters. Actually most of ye must be at home an hour by now! ;)
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 20, 2015, 06:25:48 PM
Ha hes the new Ryan McM, the player we all love to hate, has improved out of all recognise this year. I used to laugh when i seen McMahon lining out,
Dublin have now won 3 all-ireland in 5 years, probably should have won last year too, They have won 3 league title in a row too.They are now stronger that all the others, does another 2/3 Ireland's and greatness await?
Kerry will do a clean out of the old hands, too many good Kerry players coming up and the old guard who havent the legs for it need changed now.
Next year it come down to these 2 again and Mayo, with Tyrone and Donegal an outside bet, the rest may forget about
I think we are done. In fact I hope Rory Gallagher prioritizes rebuilding. Need to see if these youngsters from the recent minor and U-21 teams are any good.
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 20, 2015, 06:25:48 PM
Ha hes the new Ryan McM, the player we all love to hate, has improved out of all recognise this year. I used to laugh when i seen McMahon lining out,
Dublin have now won 3 all-ireland in 5 years, probably should have won last year too, They have won 3 league title in a row too.They are now stronger that all the others, does another 2/3 Ireland's and greatness await?
Kerry will do a clean out of the old hands, too many good Kerry players coming up and the old guard who havent the legs for it need changed now.
Next year it come down to these 2 again and Mayo, with Tyrone and Donegal an outside bet, the rest may forget about
I think we are done. In fact I hope Rory Gallagher prioritizes rebuilding. Need to see if these youngsters from the recent minor and U-21 teams are any good.
They're plenty good but I really doubt there is realistic expectations in Donegal after the last few years. Some of them mightn't reach their peak for five years or more.
Donegal ain't done yet but they will have to take a chance and blood 5-6 of last years minor team a year or 2 ahead of schedule and see who cuts the mustard. i remember E Coleman playing 4 lads in the championship at 19yrs of age and they turned out alright in the long run, Heaney, Tohill, burns, and Coleman.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 20, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Donegal ain't done yet but they will have to take a chance and blood 5-6 of last years minor team a year or 2 ahead of schedule and see who cuts the mustard. i remember E Coleman playing 4 lads in the championship at 19yrs of age and they turned out alright in the long run, Heaney, Tohill, burns, and Coleman.
Like Mayo in winning their Province they have a good chance. After that they could reach a Quarter final, semis or final. But there would be no AI Canister. Their best years are behind them.
Quote from: Syferus on September 20, 2015, 06:37:06 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 20, 2015, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 20, 2015, 06:25:48 PM
Ha hes the new Ryan McM, the player we all love to hate, has improved out of all recognise this year. I used to laugh when i seen McMahon lining out,
Dublin have now won 3 all-ireland in 5 years, probably should have won last year too, They have won 3 league title in a row too.They are now stronger that all the others, does another 2/3 Ireland's and greatness await?
Kerry will do a clean out of the old hands, too many good Kerry players coming up and the old guard who havent the legs for it need changed now.
Next year it come down to these 2 again and Mayo, with Tyrone and Donegal an outside bet, the rest may forget about
I think we are done. In fact I hope Rory Gallagher prioritizes rebuilding. Need to see if these youngsters from the recent minor and U-21 teams are any good.
They're plenty good but I giggly doubt there is realistic expectations in Donegal after the last few years. Some of them mightn't reach their peak for five years or more.
Maybe, but I don't see a team with six or seven starters at or more than the age of 30 seriously challenging for Ulster next year anyway, never mind at AI level, especially given the physical toll it must be taking at this stage. No harm in throwing at least four or five youngsters into the match day squad, at least for the league, and build for further down the line. Should have happened this year, but we only got two new subs out of the league. All these boys are going to leave over the next year or two anyway, even if they give Ulster one last, futile, rattle. If the talent isn't there, it's not there, but at least we will know. No one will be asking them to win medals first time out.
Watched the McMahon incident again and what he does is completely unacceptable but it will be brushed under the carpet and forgotten about.No doubt there will be some one on here next week with a slow motion video showing Donaghy pulling McMahons hand towards his eye.Dublin well deserved there victory and were much better than Kerry all over the pitch and will be hard stopped going for two and a row
Poor game, teams can't control the conditions, but the conditions alone cannot account for Kerry's ineptitude, they were woeful. There are 3 or 4 other teams who would have given Dublin a better game today.
Time for Championship overhaul to rid the competition of non-competitive provincial championships from influencing the All Ireland outcome.
Congrats to Dubs, deserving champions.
Only saw it now, one you mentioned it.
Does not look good from this angle: http://www.the42.ie/philly-mcmahon-donaghy-2342586-Sep2015/ (http://www.the42.ie/philly-mcmahon-donaghy-2342586-Sep2015/)
Will it affect his footballer of the year claims?
Quote from: beer baron on September 20, 2015, 06:30:49 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 06:23:17 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on September 20, 2015, 06:20:26 PM
Forget about Cluxton's free kicks, his time wasting on kickouts is crazy. He had the run of Croke Park today.
Dublin had Kerry in their pocket all day, Kerry's five wdies in a row in the first half were a killer.
What's the story re Johnny Cooper? He was the standout player and has been taken off at the three quarter point the last few days.
Has to be a injury issue!
I'd agree he can't have been brought off for any other reason today.
I was watching on Sky and Paul Earley mentioned that he'd gone down with a calf injury a minute or two before he was taken off so I presume that was it.
Talk of this being a poor AI final. Of the years I can remember AI finals being poor the following come to mind.
1978
1979
1983
1984
1997
2001
2004
2006
2007
2009
2014
2015
Funnily enough most involve Kerry except 2001!
David Hickey interview. Very interesting.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-kimmage-staying-true-to-his-sporting-values-on-and-off-the-pitch-31541498.html
Quote from: J70 on September 20, 2015, 07:14:29 PM
Will it affect his footballer of the year claims?
How would he even be in the picture J70? Was at best the fourth highest performing Dublin player (Jack Mc, Kilkenny, Brogan) and it's a near lock that Brogan has the PotY in the bag imo.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 07:38:01 PM
Talk of this being a poor AI final. Of the years I can remember AI finals being poor the following come to mind.
1978
1979
1983
1984
1997
2001
2004
2006
2007
2009
2014
2015
Funnily enough most involve Kerry except 2001!
At least most of those finals had a good performance from the winners. Dublin scored the same today as Donegal last year 0-12.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 07:38:01 PM
Talk of this being a poor AI final. Of the years I can remember AI finals being poor the following come to mind.
1978
1979
1983
1984
1997
2001
2004
2006
2007
2009
2014
2015
Funnily enough most involve Kerry except 2001!
At least most of those finals had a good performance from the winners. Dublin scored the same today as Donegal last year 0-12.
Agreed, But one team playing well does not make a good final?
Kerry looked a bit clueless and getting effective ball into their forwards was problematic all day due to the weather but also the Dublin backs were so dominant.
Cooper was largely absent, and bringing in Donaghy seemed like an act of desperation which would embarrass the Kerry teams on the past.
Dublin are a different beast to all others at the minute. They might slip up from time to time but they'll have another two of the next four titles.
Unless someone pumps a load of money and coaches into some other county in Leinster, they'll probably win the next five at least.
Well done Dublin. The better team without a doubt. Yes the ref was a tad harsh on Kerry on a number of occasions but Dublin were very worthy winners.
Dublin have a serious side and the back room team and resources available are incredible. But you can do nothing without the players and Dublin have them in abundance.
Quote from: thejuice on September 20, 2015, 08:27:58 PM
Kerry looked a bit clueless and getting effective ball into their forwards was problematic all day due to the weather but also the Dublin backs were so dominant.
Cooper was largely absent, and bringing in Donaghy seemed like an act of desperation which would embarrass the Kerry teams on the past.
Dublin are a different beast to all others at the minute. They might slip up from time to time but they'll have another two of the next four titles.
Unless someone pumps a load of money and coaches into some other county in Leinster, they'll probably win the next five at least.
Or maybe the Leinster counties might take a leaf out of Fermanagh's book and not shit bricks when facing them?
This is a very athletic and skilful Dublin side. But they are limited in defence and midfield, and like every team, if you expose their weaknesses, doubts will creep in. But you could just do a Kildare / Meath / Offaly and lie at the side of the pitch crying.
Quote from: Syferus on September 20, 2015, 07:47:02 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 20, 2015, 07:14:29 PM
Will it affect his footballer of the year claims?
How would he even be in the picture J70? Was at best the fourth highest performing Dublin player (Jack Mc, Kilkenny, Brogan) and it's a near lock that Brogan has the PotY in the bag imo.
I'd agree, Brogan has had another superb year. Top class player who rarely fails to deliver.
Wonder will that be the last time we see Brogan snr in a Dublin jersey?
Quote from: thewobbler on September 20, 2015, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: thejuice on September 20, 2015, 08:27:58 PM
Kerry looked a bit clueless and getting effective ball into their forwards was problematic all day due to the weather but also the Dublin backs were so dominant.
Cooper was largely absent, and bringing in Donaghy seemed like an act of desperation which would embarrass the Kerry teams on the past.
Dublin are a different beast to all others at the minute. They might slip up from time to time but they'll have another two of the next four titles.
Unless someone pumps a load of money and coaches into some other county in Leinster, they'll probably win the next five at least.
Or maybe the Leinster counties might take a leaf out of Fermanagh's book and not shit bricks when facing them?
This is a very athletic and skilful Dublin side. But they are limited in defence and midfield, and like every team, if you expose their weaknesses, doubts will creep in. But you could just do a Kildare / Meath / Offaly and lie at the side of the pitch crying.
Ah stop wobbler, Fermanagh were haunted to finish the game within an asses roar of Dublin, one goal a free out the other a freak incident and this against a Dublin in second gear. Fermanagh battled bravely but they could easily have been hammered.
Kilkenny and McCaffrey will only get better at 22. Brian Fenton had a solid championship as well at 22.
Paul Mannion will probaly be back with the Dublin panel next year too.
Congrats to the dubs better team on the day .
Zulu, don't disagree with you, but Fermanagh have a pick of only about 300 senior club players, and came away with their heads held high. Some of the better resourced Leinster counties should stop looking enviously and scared at Dublin, and instead try giving them a game.
Quote from: thejuice on September 20, 2015, 08:27:58 PM
Kerry looked a bit clueless and getting effective ball into their forwards was problematic all day due to the weather but also the Dublin backs were so dominant.
Cooper was largely absent, and bringing in Donaghy seemed like an act of desperation which would embarrass the Kerry teams on the past.
Dublin are a different beast to all others at the minute. They might slip up from time to time but they'll have another two of the next four titles.
Unless someone pumps a load of money and coaches into some other county in Leinster, they'll probably win the next five at least.
That is depressing
Brolly had a good article in the Sindo today about this problem
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-dream-final-dublin-and-kerry-bask-in-the-sun-while-the-rest-of-us-shiver-31541479.html
Quote from: thewobbler on September 20, 2015, 09:10:39 PM
Zulu, don't disagree with you, but Fermanagh have a pick of only about 300 senior club players, and came away with their heads held high. Some of the better resourced Leinster counties should stop looking enviously and scared at Dublin, and instead try giving them a game.
Fair point.
There is a lot of myth with the Fermanagh result v Dublin. 2.03 was gifted near the end by a Dublin team playing in third gear. Fair dues to Fermanagh, but in fairness the scoreline at the end was a bit complimentary to them. Now don't get me wrong they did quite well for a county of their size.
Sadly Meath teams don't get standing ovations for losing by 8 points.
We've given the dubs plenty of tough games over the last ten years but have only one win to show for it. They've moved up a few levels since and we're just about the same level as we were 5 or 6 years ago.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 09:54:46 PM
There is a lot of myth with the Fermanagh result v Dublin. 2.03 was gifted near the end by a Dublin team playing in third gear. Fair dues to Fermanagh, but in fairness the scoreline at the end was a bit complimentary to them. Now don't get me wrong they did quite well for a county of their size.
Femanagh don't play like a small county team. They showed the confidence in their ability that other counties who faced Dublin and have far more resources at hand never did. Dublin can be a beautiful team but boy did they win this year's AI with ugly performances. They won't mind but for the sake of the game we need to make the championship a fairer proposition. This year was brutal.
Well done Dublin. Best side this year.
If Killian Young had a little more composure, Kerry could have done a smash and grab
The key difference is pace. Dublin had an advantage in pace in most match ups. Also they are much better conditioned than any GAA team ever.
Dublin are a well oiled machine , well funded and are going no where soon. To be honest bar ulster the provincial championships are going to he a damp squid for a while to come.
Wahoo. Honoured to be there to see us bt Kerry x 3. Still drying out, just like 1994 but with the win this time.
In the wet, the best football and hurling team always wins. Feel a bit cheated it wasnt dry today as I think we would have won by 10 plus. Butchered some goal chances today.
Amazed Cooper wasn't subbed after 25 minutes . Game was up when Galvin came in towards the end.
Big pressure on us next year to win the centenary AI.
Have to give credit to Kerry fans post game. Very gracious in defeat.
Mayo imo by far the best team we played this year.
Pace of Dublin killed Kerry , I thought Darren o sullivan created a few problems for Dublin because they had to stand off him a bit in case he carried the ball at them which was about the only way Kerry might have got through them ,carry straight at them and win a few frees or get someone carded .
kerry bench not as good as made out to be and I can't believe Kerry went down really without showing anything or were Dublin that much better
Dublin are a clinical corporate entity now. They are well ahead of the pack now. AIG dosh , Dcu on doorstep etc.
QuoteI'd have Dublin by 6 or 7 up to late last week but the injury concerns require a re-think. Dublin will sneak it.
Dublin should have won this by the 6 or 7 and at the same time it could have been a draw if Kerry took that late goal chance. I took the evens on offer on Dublin yesterday morning [massive price considering the price the Dubs were all year].
That last ten minutes before half time was the winning of the game and things just went right for the Dubs at that time, an intercept for a point and a fumbled point by Brogan (by the way for that Brogan point Kilkenny was pulling his man back and that could easily have been a free out). A pretty classy shot by McMahon which was more often than not a 2/1 chance of going over, it went over and everything was going right for the Dubs.
The Dublin bench were massive again, Small, MacCauley, MacMenniman and Fitzsimons all added to the play.
The ten minutes prior to that Kerry owned the ball but made bad use of it, this will frustrate them. They are a better team than they showed yesterday and if Darren O'Sullivan had started and Marc O'Shea was fit it could have been different.
All in all it wasn't a great championship. Our lads are as good as what's in it but we do need the stars to align for us to get over the line. That will happen soon, I've no doubt about it.
Congrats to the Dubs and the Dubs posters here. Hope the team spend the year in Coppers, they deserve that much.
QuoteDublin are a clinical corporate entity now. They are well ahead of the pack now. AIG dosh , Dcu on doorstep etc
You don't hear this bull shit when it comes to the Kilkenny hurlers. The Dubs still have the best players / squad in the country.
p.s. Our own posters should give the Fitzmaurice tactics slagging a bit of a rest. It's a bit rich coming from our lads.
Disappointing game, even taking into account the conditions and the occasion it never really got going.
Kerrys good spell in the first half when they hit a string of wides hurt them, Dublin then got on top and made it count. Small things change games on a day like that and one of these was the point that brogan got when the ball seemed to stuck in human pinball mode and it eventually bounced to a free brogan and he slotted over the bar on a flash.
Defensively Dublin where brilliant, no fouling (or fouling in the right places) and total commitment. Was very interesting to watch how McMahon ran Cooper round the field, as soon as Dublin won possession he took off and ran hard down beyond the Dublin half forward line, then he played like a half forward and worked himself round the pitch taking and receiving possession. Copper was run ragged. I wonder in hindsight would Dublin let him run and leave copper at home to try and punish him. Without a sweeper at home for Kerry this probably wasn't an option.
Haven't seen it mentioned but with about 8 mins remaining, Donaghy came out for a ball and from my spot it looked like O'Carroll pushed him in the air as Donaghy rose to fetch it. It was a very easy free to narrow the gap but a minutes later Dublin broke and scored. Don't think it was the point that Brogan took about 8 steps but the one before that. Was a huge appeal for the foul on Donaghy from the crowd, not sure if it looked as obvious on the TV.
Killian Young hardly slept well last night but he still had some work to do at that stage, was as close as Kerry came to a goal all day.
Dublin very clear winners on the day overall.
God bless Elverys shop at the back of the Hogan who produced a big box of Panchos at about 3.15 yesterday, would have more soaked only for them.
Cracking stuff. Thought it was a.great championship all round.
A few sets of these wouldn't have went amiss yesterday!!
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Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
A few sets of these wouldn't have went amiss yesterday!!
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Young Munster !!!!!!
QuoteHaven't seen it mentioned but with about 8 mins remaining, Donaghy came out for a ball and from my spot it looked like O'Carroll pushed him in the air as Donaghy rose to fetch it. It was a very easy free to narrow the gap but a minutes later Dublin broke and scored. Don't think it was the point that Brogan took about 8 steps but the one before that. Was a huge appeal for the foul on Donaghy from the crowd, not sure if it looked as obvious on the TV.
Another small margin incident was the foul on Geaney late in the 1st half. This would have cut the lead to 2 points but the Dubs counter-attacked and McMahon got his point to make it 4 up at 1/2 time.
It wouldn't be fair to try to blame the ref for Kerry's defeat. Yes Kerry will feel slightly aggrieved looking back but Dublin were by far the better team yesterday and could have won by a lot more than the final margin which maybe flattered Kerry a bit.
Eamon Fitz bringing on Galvin for Moran was a strange move, surely Walsh was the man to bring on if Moran was to go off
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Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
A few sets of these wouldn't have went amiss yesterday!!
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JC
Young Munster !!!!!!
Those fancy coloured slippers just weren't up to the task yesterday.
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
A few sets of these wouldn't have went amiss yesterday!!
(http://stirlingsports.co.nz/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x650/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/j/v/jv84771-21mm.jpg)
Unless the pitch was like concrete I only ever wore these studs, nicely filed into a point :P
Dublin were the better team on the day but it astounds me how Kerry were out thought on the pitch. The pushing back of Cooper by McMahon was excellent, Fitzmaurice should have made a switch and left Cooper in the FF line. Played a 3 man FF line and played Donaghy on the square earlier. Yesterday was a day for a slippy ball on the square off a break from the Star. I would even have hooked Cooper for the middle part of the game and put Darren O'S on in his place and then brought Cooper back on with 20 to go when there was more space.
Dublin definitely had more option and were better condition. They also outfoxed Kerry and that's not done very often.
I actually thought it was a day to try out the twin towers approach for kerry when nothing else was working.
Hard enough trying to mark Donaghy, but put tommy Walsh beside him for the last 10 minutes and land balls in on top of them with Gooch and Darren o'sullivan feeding off breaks.
In those conditions, nobody was going to catch anything launched in there but it would have taken at least 4 dublin defenders to mark them two, leaving a lot of space somewhere else!
Meant to say, Congrats to Indiana, Heffo, Canal Man, HillisBlue and feck it, even squire in navy slacks. Enjoy the celebrations lads. And wait till next year in Leinster!!!! note, next year in Leinster may be very easy
Quote from: westbound on September 21, 2015, 12:10:05 PM
I actually thought it was a day to try out the twin towers approach for kerry when nothing else was working.
Hard enough trying to mark Donaghy, but put tommy Walsh beside him for the last 10 minutes and land balls in on top of them with Gooch and Darren o'sullivan feeding off breaks.
In those conditions, nobody was going to catch anything launched in there but it would have taken at least 4 dublin defenders to mark them two, leaving a lot of space somewhere else!
I agree with you, don't get taking JOD of either; He didn't have his best game but still kicked 3 points from play.
Probably already been mentioned but the time keeping is a joke, three and half minutes were wasted between 2 frees either side of injury time not to mention the time wasted on Cluxton's free's.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 21, 2015, 01:48:23 PM
Quote from: westbound on September 21, 2015, 12:10:05 PM
I actually thought it was a day to try out the twin towers approach for kerry when nothing else was working.
Hard enough trying to mark Donaghy, but put tommy Walsh beside him for the last 10 minutes and land balls in on top of them with Gooch and Darren o'sullivan feeding off breaks.
In those conditions, nobody was going to catch anything launched in there but it would have taken at least 4 dublin defenders to mark them two, leaving a lot of space somewhere else!
I agree with you, don't get taking JOD of either; He didn't have his best game but still kicked 3 points from play.
Probably already been mentioned but the time keeping is a joke, three and half minutes were wasted between 2 frees either side of injury time not to mention the time wasted on Cluxton's free's.
Yeah - thought some of the switches were strange. We know now that McCaffrey was sick so presumably he took himself off so that explains that one. Couldn't understand taking JOD off; from half way through the 2nd half it was becoming clear that they'd need a goal so you have to leave him on; could have easily took cooper off instead.
Timekeeping - couldn't have argued with another 2 mins - there were plenty of stops throughout the 2nd half
Was at the game.
Dublin were by far the better team. Kerry seemed to have no idea how to attack with a wet ball, which is bizarre when you think about it.
The game wasn't much of a spectacle from a purist pov but it was still an enthralling contest all the same. The only blights for me were the behaviour of Donaghy and McMahon. Hopefully the former will just piss off and retire while the latter should be getting a long ban, but no doubt it would be appealed and overturned anyway.
Congrats to Heffo and all the Dublin lads here. 3 All-Irelands in 5 years is amazing stuff. Even Kerry might raise a smile at that.
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Good man, first post on the topic is to gloat and take a few shots at the beaten opposition. What a surprise ::)
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
Quote from: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Good man, first post on the topic is to gloat and take a few shots at the beaten opposition. What a surprise ::)
This thread is for AI Contenders Bingo.
There is a thread for the ulster championship somewhere.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
The overhaul will happen anyway - age has caught up with them. Kerry will probably look very different next year.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
J. O'D scored 2 or 3 points from play I think. Out of 9 that wasn't bad. If anything he did better than the likes of Bernard Brogan who looked like he was trying to hold onto a bar of soap and spent more time on his arse than his feet.
Gooch was completely destroyed by McMahon's adventure going forward. I don't think he should have been left on McMahon at all.
David Moran was well beaten, and I think Fenton is a good player as I said earlier in the year. These things happen.
That was a sweet win, delighted for Jim and the panel.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: Bingo on September 21, 2015, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Good man, first post on the topic is to gloat and take a few shots at the beaten opposition. What a surprise ::)
This thread is for AI Contenders Bingo.
There is a thread for the ulster championship somewhere.
Hahahahaha.
Thankfully I know plenty of good footballing people from Dublin and have been "allowed" by them to discuss the match despite my postal address.
I wouldn't expect to much out of you apart from tabloid headline making posts anyway.
Whats the old saying about a pig and a grunt?
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Maybe they will draft up some of the back to back minor team. Tell ye what how about Dublin get to back to back AI finals, shouldn't be too hard as Leinster is less competitive than the other provinces. Replace Killian O'Connor with Colm Cooper in that goal chance and Kerry win yesterday after playing rank bad. Not a great endorsement of the great Dublin team.
Only one thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Expect nothing less from you though
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Maybe they will draft up some of the back to back minor team. Tell ye what how about Dublin get to back to back AI finals, shouldn't be too hard as Leinster is less competitive than the other provinces. Replace Killian O'Connor with Colm Cooper in that goal chance and Kerry win yesterday after playing rank bad. Not a great endorsement of the great Dublin team.
Only one thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Expect nothing less from you though
Dublin are entitled to be happy this morning. The country spent the whole week telling us Kerry this and Kerry that.
Dublin are the dominant force in this era and we have direct superiority over Kerry.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
Were you playing ??
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Maybe they will draft up some of the back to back minor team. Tell ye what how about Dublin get to back to back AI finals, shouldn't be too hard as Leinster is less competitive than the other provinces. Replace Killian O'Connor with Colm Cooper in that goal chance and Kerry win yesterday after playing rank bad. Not a great endorsement of the great Dublin team.
Only one thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Expect nothing less from you though
Dublin are entitled to be happy this morning. The country spent the whole week telling us Kerry this and Kerry that.
Dublin are the dominant force in this era and we have direct superiority over Kerry.
Big difference between being happy and being a dick
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Maybe they will draft up some of the back to back minor team. Tell ye what how about Dublin get to back to back AI finals, shouldn't be too hard as Leinster is less competitive than the other provinces. Replace Killian O'Connor with Colm Cooper in that goal chance and Kerry win yesterday after playing rank bad. Not a great endorsement of the great Dublin team.
Only one thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Expect nothing less from you though
Dublin are entitled to be happy this morning. The country spent the whole week telling us Kerry this and Kerry that.
Dublin are the dominant force in this era and we have direct superiority over Kerry.
Are you mental Indiana? *You* were the one saying Kerry would beat Dublin in a poor version of Yerra. I always fancied *either* Mayo or Dublin to beat Kerry.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Maybe they will draft up some of the back to back minor team. Tell ye what how about Dublin get to back to back AI finals, shouldn't be too hard as Leinster is less competitive than the other provinces. Replace Killian O'Connor with Colm Cooper in that goal chance and Kerry win yesterday after playing rank bad. Not a great endorsement of the great Dublin team.
Only one thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Expect nothing less from you though
Dublin are entitled to be happy this morning. The country spent the whole week telling us Kerry this and Kerry that.
Dublin are the dominant force in this era and we have direct superiority over Kerry.
ah hem, none more than yourself
Quote from: westbound on September 21, 2015, 12:10:05 PM
I actually thought it was a day to try out the twin towers approach for kerry when nothing else was working.
Hard enough trying to mark Donaghy, but put tommy Walsh beside him for the last 10 minutes and land balls in on top of them with Gooch and Darren o'sullivan feeding off breaks.
In those conditions, nobody was going to catch anything launched in there but it would have taken at least 4 dublin defenders to mark them two, leaving a lot of space somewhere else!
I thought the same thing. However the rules seem to have been amended so that you can do what you like to big lads so not sure it would have worked.
Dublin were the better side but Kerry got the wrong side of the referees big calls for the first time in a while. Donaghy is a terrible messer and wasted a lot of time Kerry didnt have with some of his carry on yesterday. McMahon stepped well over the line and this looked a lot more clear cut than the Rory O'Carroll/ Gooch incident in 2013.
Couldnt see much humility in the quote below.
QuoteRegarding the incident with Donaghy, McMahon commented: "Look, it was a slippy day and the ball was on the ground to be challenged and I went down to challenge the ball, and he's a big lad so, trying to get around Kieran Donaghy is hard but... Yeah look, this is the heat of the battle.
"We'd like to say part of our culture is humility and the same with the Kerry lads. You know, what happened on the pitch stays on the pitch and we shook hands and that was the end of it."
When pressed further if there was any intention to get involved with Donaghy 'in any way', McMahon responded: "No, look it, this is Gaelic football and we're grown men. We play a physical sport and at the end of the day the result is what ends it and we shake hands and get on with it."
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
Oh good man . . . what position were you again??!!
Seriously is it any wonder nobody likes the Dubs when you come on here spouting this nonsense Indiana. That's the second or 3rd time in the past month you've lost the run of yourself. Chill the f**k out and enjoy the win rather than slagging people!!!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:32:54 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Maybe they will draft up some of the back to back minor team. Tell ye what how about Dublin get to back to back AI finals, shouldn't be too hard as Leinster is less competitive than the other provinces. Replace Killian O'Connor with Colm Cooper in that goal chance and Kerry win yesterday after playing rank bad. Not a great endorsement of the great Dublin team.
Only one thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Expect nothing less from you though
Dublin are entitled to be happy this morning. The country spent the whole week telling us Kerry this and Kerry that.
Dublin are the dominant force in this era and we have direct superiority over Kerry.
Big difference between being happy and being a dick
You want everything on your own terms here. You're happy enough to ritually abuse Dublin all year round and you want me to be contrite in victory.
Not on your nelly kid. I'll be contrite with the decent posters around here but you're not in that bracket.
You won't see anyone from Kerry on here in a while. They spent 12 months questioning our bottle.
They lost the game yesterday because they didn't have the stomach for battle.
That's the bottom line
Utter nonsense. Still drunk I'd say or the chip on the shoulder has taken over the controls.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Maybe they will draft up some of the back to back minor team. Tell ye what how about Dublin get to back to back AI finals, shouldn't be too hard as Leinster is less competitive than the other provinces. Replace Killian O'Connor with Colm Cooper in that goal chance and Kerry win yesterday after playing rank bad. Not a great endorsement of the great Dublin team.
Only one thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Expect nothing less from you though
Poor Cillian O'Connor gets blamed even when he wasn't playing. ;)
Killian Young should at least at least have managed to hang onto the ball all the same.
Quote from: screenexile on September 21, 2015, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
Oh good man . . . what position were you again??!!
Seriously is it any wonder nobody likes the Dubs when you come on here spouting this nonsense Indiana. That's the second or 3rd time in the past month you've lost the run of yourself. Chill the f**k out and enjoy the win rather than slagging people!!!
I've spent 12 months reading the Kerry Media Group questioning our bottle.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:32:54 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Maybe they will draft up some of the back to back minor team. Tell ye what how about Dublin get to back to back AI finals, shouldn't be too hard as Leinster is less competitive than the other provinces. Replace Killian O'Connor with Colm Cooper in that goal chance and Kerry win yesterday after playing rank bad. Not a great endorsement of the great Dublin team.
Only one thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Expect nothing less from you though
Dublin are entitled to be happy this morning. The country spent the whole week telling us Kerry this and Kerry that.
Dublin are the dominant force in this era and we have direct superiority over Kerry.
Big difference between being happy and being a dick
You want everything on your own terms here. You're happy enough to ritually abuse Dublin all year round and you want me to be contrite in victory.
Not on your nelly kid. I'll be contrite with the decent posters around here but you're not in that bracket.
You won't see anyone from Kerry on here in a while. They spent 12 months questioning our bottle.
They lost the game yesterday because they didn't have the stomach for battle.
That's the bottom line
You'll so full of shite. I'll give you a bye ball seeing as you're obviously still drunk, but as I said nothing worse than an ungracious winner. And trust me I'll lose no sleep over whether or not you bracket me in the good or bad corner, that says more about you than anything else.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 01:05:06 PM
Meant to say, Congrats to Indiana, Heffo, Canal Man, HillisBlue and feck it, even squire in navy slacks. Enjoy the celebrations lads. And wait till next year in Leinster!!!! note, next year in Leinster may be very easy
Thanks AZ
Yesterday was a great day to be a Dublin supporter. The team performed as we always hoped they would and the tactical leadership from Gavin and the sideline team was brilliant. They were much better than Kerry yesterday that I'm convinced that had it been a dry day the gap between the teams at the end would have been much wider in Dublin's favour.
Commiserations to Kerry and their supporters. The Monday after the game is always the worst.
A word on Mayo. After yesterday it's clear to me that Mayo are number two in the rankings.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:40:28 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:32:54 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Maybe they will draft up some of the back to back minor team. Tell ye what how about Dublin get to back to back AI finals, shouldn't be too hard as Leinster is less competitive than the other provinces. Replace Killian O'Connor with Colm Cooper in that goal chance and Kerry win yesterday after playing rank bad. Not a great endorsement of the great Dublin team.
Only one thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. Expect nothing less from you though
Dublin are entitled to be happy this morning. The country spent the whole week telling us Kerry this and Kerry that.
Dublin are the dominant force in this era and we have direct superiority over Kerry.
Big difference between being happy and being a dick
You want everything on your own terms here. You're happy enough to ritually abuse Dublin all year round and you want me to be contrite in victory.
Not on your nelly kid. I'll be contrite with the decent posters around here but you're not in that bracket.
You won't see anyone from Kerry on here in a while. They spent 12 months questioning our bottle.
They lost the game yesterday because they didn't have the stomach for battle.
That's the bottom line
You'll so full of shite. I'll give you a bye ball seeing as you're obviously still drunk, but as I said nothing worse than an ungracious winner. And trust me I'll lose no sleep over whether or not you bracket me in the good or bad corner, that says more about you than anything else.
Sober as a judge. Never drank in my life and don't intend to start now.
I'll look forward to you beginning your annual ritual abuse of Dublin players in January.
Does bcb slag off Dubs? I haven't noticed it before to be honest.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 02:46:13 PM
Does bcb slag off Dubs? I haven't noticed it before to be honest.
Me neither.
No one ever questioned dublin bottle. What was questioned was their openness when counter attacked.
I think Indiana is one of these sports fans who sees every defeat down to bottle. Dublin were better and faster than kerry yesterday.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 02:46:13 PM
Does bcb slag off Dubs? I haven't noticed it before to be honest.
Indiana has got a video showing how many times brokencrossbar1 slagged off the Dubs.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
;D My favourite reply on this thread.
Congrats to Dublin, no point in having money if you don't spend it well. As for the game I thought it was shit with really poor skill levels. Difference between the two teams I thought was Dublin's forwards worked a lot harder to win the ball back than their counterparts. A simple thing but never under estimate work rate. The harder you work the more you don't want to give up.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
How many AI medals is that you have now so?
Bad winner, zero class, the antithesis of what the GAA is all about.
That's the last two All Ireland finals that have been crap, terrible football, and Kerry have been the common denominator!!!
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 21, 2015, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
;D My favourite reply on this thread.
Congrats to Dublin, no point in having money if you don't spend it well.
I know, Kildare had it and gave it to a guru who spent it on magic beans now we're all left with the tab.
Wait, what? They got beans? I thought they bought a lock of robots? What the hell is going on? And why can't we get money, for either beans or robots?
Quote from: heffo on September 21, 2015, 03:19:02 PM
I know, Kildare had it and gave it to a guru who spent it on magic beans now we're all left with the tab.
*thinks of the money Waterford spent on a Jedward concert*
Wow, magic beans!
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 03:19:49 PM
Wait, what? They got beans? I thought they bought a lock of robots? What the hell is going on? And why can't we get money, for either beans or robots?
Sure look we try to create robots, Offaly are too busy trying to create hurlers but the GAA created a Monster. Without the money Dublin would be now approaching 20 years without an All-Ireland, the biggest under-achieving county had to be bailed out by the GAA.
We're trying to create anything at this stage! And in Tipp we might not even be allowed try make any more footballers :)
Quote from: Keyser soze on September 21, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
How many AI medals is that you have now so?
Bad winner, zero class, the antithesis of what the GAA is all about.
Bullshit I'm the essence of what the GAA is all about.
Played for my club for 40 years, played for my county for 15.
Trained and managed teams at all grades and classes to win championships at club and county level.
So don't give me that load of bollocks when you don't like me questioning Kerry's stomach for battle when they questioned ours for the last 12 months.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 21, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 03:19:49 PM
Wait, what? They got beans? I thought they bought a lock of robots? What the hell is going on? And why can't we get money, for either beans or robots?
Sure look we try to create robots, Offaly are too busy trying to create hurlers but the GAA created a Monster. Without the money Dublin would be now approaching 20 years without an All-Ireland, the biggest under-achieving county had to be bailed out by the GAA.
Really? How many players on the 2011 AI winning team benefited from a Primary school driven coaching programme?
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on September 21, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
How many AI medals is that you have now so?
Bad winner, zero class, the antithesis of what the GAA is all about.
Bullshit I'm the essence of what the GAA is all about.
Played for my club for 40 years, played for my county for 15.
Trained and managed teams at all grades and classes to win championships at club and county level.
So don't give me that load of bollocks when you don't like me questioning Kerry's stomach for battle when they questioned ours for the last 12 months.
(https://i.imgflip.com/rdmyx.jpg)
Seriously you've definitely lost the plot now!
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on September 21, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
How many AI medals is that you have now so?
Bad winner, zero class, the antithesis of what the GAA is all about.
Bullshit I'm the essence of what the GAA is all about.
Played for my club for 40 years, played for my county for 15.
Trained and managed teams at all grades and classes to win championships at club and county level.
So don't give me that load of bollocks when you don't like me questioning Kerry's stomach for battle when they questioned ours for the last 12 months.
Camogie?
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on September 21, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
How many AI medals is that you have now so?
Bad winner, zero class, the antithesis of what the GAA is all about.
Bullshit I'm the essence of what the GAA is all about.
Played for my club for 40 years, played for my county for 15.
Trained and managed teams at all grades and classes to win championships at club and county level.
So don't give me that load of bollocks when you don't like me questioning Kerry's stomach for battle when they questioned ours for the last 12 months.
Ach gwan tell us about your medals so.
Quote from: screenexile on September 21, 2015, 03:32:20 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on September 21, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
How many AI medals is that you have now so?
Bad winner, zero class, the antithesis of what the GAA is all about.
Bullshit I'm the essence of what the GAA is all about.
Played for my club for 40 years, played for my county for 15.
Trained and managed teams at all grades and classes to win championships at club and county level.
So don't give me that load of bollocks when you don't like me questioning Kerry's stomach for battle when they questioned ours for the last 12 months.
(https://i.imgflip.com/rdmyx.jpg)
Seriously you've definitely lost the plot now!
;D ;D ;D
I've a notion Indie might be Darling Charlie himself!
Congrats on the win tho Indie, your modesty knows no bounds so I know you will receive that with the epitome of humility
Dubs by far the better team in a truely awful match, shoulda won by 10pts. Conditions didnt help of course but some of the errors yesterday were unbelievable
Who is the last player to score 6:20 from play in their home ground in the same championship season?
Quote from: muppet on September 21, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on September 21, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
How many AI medals is that you have now so?
Bad winner, zero class, the antithesis of what the GAA is all about.
Bullshit I'm the essence of what the GAA is all about.
Played for my club for 40 years, played for my county for 15.
Trained and managed teams at all grades and classes to win championships at club and county level.
So don't give me that load of bollocks when you don't like me questioning Kerry's stomach for battle when they questioned ours for the last 12 months.
Camogie?
No harm to you lad but you really are the complete opposite of what the GAA is about if you think coming on and spouting how great you are will win you brownie medals. For what it's worth I haven't questioned Dublin's bottle once in the last 12 months seeing as you've used it as a barometer. I made one post in relation to this team that has any sort of criticism
QuoteI have to agree about Flynn. He, in my opinion, is the metronome that runs the Dublin team. Connolly, Brogan etc are all excellent players but Flynn is the real deal and the one player that I would take from them over the rest. He does the simple things right but has a heart of a lion and fantastic drive and workrate.
The reality is that Dublin were never losing this game but they were exposed. Cluxton is not as infallible as he once was. The FB line are there for the taking as the HB line provide little protection at times. The MF is just OK and would not compete against Moran and Maher for instance. The forwards are brilliant if they are fed the ball and outside of Kerry are the most complete forward unit.
I got it wrong about the MF, though Maher did give the Dublin MF their fill of it. You have real notions about yourself and your standing in the bigger scheme of things. I am happy for the likes of Zulu, heffo et al who are winning with grace. You were at the same sort of shit when you beat us in the club Final, but just stay classy with your c**k measuring.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 21, 2015, 03:47:28 PM
Who is the last player to score 6:20 from play in their home ground in the same championship season?
A: Indiana.
Next question.
Who was the only man who could mark Larry Reilly?
Who questioned Dublin's bottle ????
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 21, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 21, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on September 21, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
What it showed for Kerry was that they have a few fancy dans on their team who don't like it when it gets tough.
JOD in particular may have great hair but he's not a man to win a hard ball.
Gooch was anonymous - David Moran well beaten by a 21 year old.
Massive overhaul required
Who scored more from play yesterday than JOD ????
Moran has had an average year . Gooch was playing on a struggling team.
You were a w**ker on Satuday and nothing has changed today .
An AI winning w**ker this morning.
How many AI medals is that you have now so?
Bad winner, zero class, the antithesis of what the GAA is all about.
Bullshit I'm the essence of what the GAA is all about.
Played for my club for 40 years, played for my county for 15.
Trained and managed teams at all grades and classes to win championships at club and county level.
So don't give me that load of bollocks when you don't like me questioning Kerry's stomach for battle when they questioned ours for the last 12 months.
Camogie?
No harm to you lad but you really are the complete opposite of what the GAA is about if you think coming on and spouting how great you are will win you brownie medals. For what it's worth I haven't questioned Dublin's bottle once in the last 12 months seeing as you've used it as a barometer. I made one post in relation to this team that has any sort of criticism
QuoteI have to agree about Flynn. He, in my opinion, is the metronome that runs the Dublin team. Connolly, Brogan etc are all excellent players but Flynn is the real deal and the one player that I would take from them over the rest. He does the simple things right but has a heart of a lion and fantastic drive and workrate.
The reality is that Dublin were never losing this game but they were exposed. Cluxton is not as infallible as he once was. The FB line are there for the taking as the HB line provide little protection at times. The MF is just OK and would not compete against Moran and Maher for instance. The forwards are brilliant if they are fed the ball and outside of Kerry are the most complete forward unit.
I got it wrong about the MF, though Maher did give the Dublin MF their fill of it. You have real notions about yourself and your standing in the bigger scheme of things. I am happy for the likes of Zulu, heffo et al who are winning with grace. You were at the same sort of shit when you beat us in the club Final, but just stay classy with your c**k measuring.
Zulu's not a Dub. Zulu, are you okay there?? someone check Zulu quickly!
Sorry Zulu, i always thought you were a Dub!!
What the GAA is all about...
(https://i.imgflip.com/rdo6c.jpg)
Is his mind he is like this
(http://www.lastwordonnothing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Indy.jpeg)
in reality he is
(http://www.coolest-homemade-costumes.com/images/coolest-homemade-lego-indiana-jones-costume-6-21301366.jpg)
Is that Cian O'Sullivan?
I reckon Harrison Ford will require 13 stitches around the eye!
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on September 21, 2015, 03:58:37 PM
I reckon Harrison Ford will require 13 stitches around the eye!
Philly McMahon did it!
On the Dublin 'bottle' thing. . . where is this plethora of articles from Kerrymen about Dublin having no bottle??
I've checked Bomber, Spillane and O'Se's articles from last week and none of them mention Dublin's bottle or lack thereof!!
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on September 21, 2015, 03:58:37 PM
I reckon Harrison Ford will require 13 stitches around the eye!
Look it, twas a wet day and its a mans game, so what if Harrison near lost an eye. What happens on the pitch stays on the pitch
I knew I'd seen Philly McMahon somewhere before!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-32Hw-CkYU3g/TryI6vAJaJI/AAAAAAAAAbs/R5rIHMIymco/s1600/Mola+Ram.bmp)
He gets around
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/8/89/Pale_Man.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20110915154745)
Quote from: screenexile on September 21, 2015, 04:01:15 PM
On the Dublin 'bottle' thing. . . where is this plethora of articles from Kerrymen about Dublin having no bottle??
I've checked Bomber, Spillane and O'Se's articles from last week and none of them mention Dublin's bottle or lack thereof!!
Rewind 12 months after the Donegal game. I haven't forgotten and neither has any Dublin fan.
Enjoy the rest of the day lads. I'm off to see the Dubs in O'Connell Street later. Winning three AIs in five years takes some celebrating.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 21, 2015, 04:01:15 PM
On the Dublin 'bottle' thing. . . where is this plethora of articles from Kerrymen about Dublin having no bottle??
I've checked Bomber, Spillane and O'Se's articles from last week and none of them mention Dublin's bottle or lack thereof!!
Rewind 12 months after the Donegal game. I haven't forgotten and neither has any Dublin fan.
Jaysus Indy, I don't think bottle was questioned there. If anything it was that they were too gung ho and all out attack. They were called naive certainly, especially Gavin, but I don't think anyone questioned their bottle.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 21, 2015, 04:12:27 PM
Enjoy the rest of the day lads. I'm off to see the Dubs in O'Connell Street later. Winning three AIs in five years takes some celebrating.
At least you can see. #prayfordonaghy
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 21, 2015, 04:01:15 PM
On the Dublin 'bottle' thing. . . where is this plethora of articles from Kerrymen about Dublin having no bottle??
I've checked Bomber, Spillane and O'Se's articles from last week and none of them mention Dublin's bottle or lack thereof!!
Rewind 12 months after the Donegal game. I haven't forgotten and neither has any Dublin fan.
I rewinded to 12 months after the Donegal game. Nothing.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 21, 2015, 04:12:27 PM
Enjoy the rest of the day lads. I'm off to see the Dubs in O'Connell Street later. Winning three AIs in five years takes some celebrating.
Have fun. But we all know you'll be following this thread on your phone.
By the way, I just thought of this. What a difference a year makes. Fair play to Alan Brogan...
From this...
(http://cdn4.independent.ie/incoming/article31122607.ece/b61c3/ALTERNATES/h342/alanbroganx.jpg)
To this...
(http://cdn4.herald.ie/news/article31543543.ece/79885/ALTERNATES/h342/2015-09-21_new_13028821_I1.JPG)
You'd want a heart of stone .....
great photos
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 21, 2015, 04:01:15 PM
On the Dublin 'bottle' thing. . . where is this plethora of articles from Kerrymen about Dublin having no bottle??
I've checked Bomber, Spillane and O'Se's articles from last week and none of them mention Dublin's bottle or lack thereof!!
Rewind 12 months after the Donegal game. I haven't forgotten and neither has any Dublin fan.
You are a very angry man who needs to imagine things to be angry about.
Life is too short kiddo . Live a little.
Those photos reminded me of something from yesterday, walking up from lower Hogan yesterday after the presentation and place was emptying out. was one decent sized group still in the seats, sitting and standing and I soon copped it was mostly women. And mostly good looking women. And mostly all very well dressed up and a lot of blondes.
As I passed them I noticed a right few where in tears and it clicked then - it was the Kerry WAGS. I so wanted to stay and console them but I was wet and wanted to save myself from the embarrassment.
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 04:43:00 PM
You are a very angry man who needs to imagine things to be angry about.
Life is too short kiddo . Live a little.
It's getting Alan Partridge-esque at this stage. "Needless to say, I had the last laugh."
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 04:31:06 PM
By the way, I just thought of this. What a difference a year makes. Fair play to Alan Brogan...
From this...
(http://cdn4.independent.ie/incoming/article31122607.ece/b61c3/ALTERNATES/h342/alanbroganx.jpg)
To this...
(http://cdn4.herald.ie/news/article31543543.ece/79885/ALTERNATES/h342/2015-09-21_new_13028821_I1.JPG)
You'd want a heart of stone .....
Boo friggidy hoo!
Many players seasons end in disappointment. Brogan had quit last year but was coaxed back apparently. Would he have come back for another year if he was a player from Longford, Carlow or Leitrim, in Div 4 and guaranteed a right whipping come championship time? He most certainly wouldnt.
Jaysus Benny harsh. It was more a study in the vagaries of sport and a commentary in the difference a year makes. But sure yeah, f**k him and his kid. ::)
Quote from: deiseach on September 21, 2015, 04:48:10 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 04:43:00 PM
You are a very angry man who needs to imagine things to be angry about.
Life is too short kiddo . Live a little.
It's getting Alan Partridge-esque at this stage. "Needless to say, I had the last laugh."
He who holds the trophy always laughs last ;)
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 05:02:20 PM
Quote from: deiseach on September 21, 2015, 04:48:10 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 04:43:00 PM
You are a very angry man who needs to imagine things to be angry about.
Life is too short kiddo . Live a little.
It's getting Alan Partridge-esque at this stage. "Needless to say, I had the last laugh."
He who holds the trophy always laughs last ;)
Do you have it there with you... put a pic up of it sure! ::) ::)
I've been assuming for a very long time now that Indiana is a Roscommon blow-in (or has just simply has become a Dub), there was a regular Roscommon poster on this board who was a bit of a Walter Mitty and i've noticed on the very rare ocassions he posts nowadays it tends to be to weigh in behind Indy in some of his numerous spats, there's also a 'Kerry' poster who mysteriously seems to weigh in behind Indy quite a lot.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 04:53:01 PM
Jaysus Benny harsh. It was more a study in the vagaries of sport and a commentary in the difference a year makes. But sure yeah, f**k him and his kid. ::)
Yeah, f**k em all! ;D It wasn't the kid I was getting at, but it was easy for AB to give it another year with a big Celtic Cross dangled in front of him.
By the way, why was the kid allowed on the pitch when the rest of us arent?
Quote from: bennydorano on September 21, 2015, 05:04:57 PM
I've been assuming for a very long time now that Indiana is a Roscommon blow-in (or has just simply has become a Dub), there was a regular Roscommon poster on this board who was a bit of a Walter Mitty and i've noticed on the very rare ocassions he posts nowadays it tends to be to weigh in behind Indy in some of his numerous spats, there's also a 'Kerry' poster who mysteriously seems to weigh in behind Indy quite a lot.
Sadly there are more than 1 ;)
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 21, 2015, 04:01:15 PM
On the Dublin 'bottle' thing. . . where is this plethora of articles from Kerrymen about Dublin having no bottle??
I've checked Bomber, Spillane and O'Se's articles from last week and none of them mention Dublin's bottle or lack thereof!!
Rewind 12 months after the Donegal game. I haven't forgotten and neither has any Dublin fan.
Don't remember bottle being questioned. Composure... tactics... leadership... overconfidence going in... absolutely.
And they've addressed those issues well, so fair play to them.
Quote from: BennyCake on September 21, 2015, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 04:53:01 PM
Jaysus Benny harsh. It was more a study in the vagaries of sport and a commentary in the difference a year makes. But sure yeah, f**k him and his kid. ::)
Yeah, f**k em all! ;D It wasn't the kid I was getting at, but it was easy for AB to give it another year with a big Celtic Cross dangled in front of him.
By the way, why was the kid allowed on the pitch when the rest of us arent?
You think it is not right for players to bring their kids onto the pitch?
Quote from: BennyCake on September 21, 2015, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 04:53:01 PM
Jaysus Benny harsh. It was more a study in the vagaries of sport and a commentary in the difference a year makes. But sure yeah, f**k him and his kid. ::)
Yeah, f**k em all! ;D It wasn't the kid I was getting at, but it was easy for AB to give it another year with a big Celtic Cross dangled in front of him.
By the way, why was the kid allowed on the pitch when the rest of us arent?
You're one bitter hateful fcukwit. And one poisonous little b*stard to boot!
You and a few other hateful fcukrs here are the reason why so few Dubs or reasonable people from other counties post on this forum.
You're welcome to each other!
I know I'm late but congrats to the Dubs on here. Enjoy the win. 8 out of 9 available trophies is some going for Gavin. Best team usually always wins. Nobody can deny.Dublin were the best team this year.
Quote from: Hill16 Blues on September 21, 2015, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 21, 2015, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 04:53:01 PM
Jaysus Benny harsh. It was more a study in the vagaries of sport and a commentary in the difference a year makes. But sure yeah, f**k him and his kid. ::)
Yeah, f**k em all! ;D It wasn't the kid I was getting at, but it was easy for AB to give it another year with a big Celtic Cross dangled in front of him.
By the way, why was the kid allowed on the pitch when the rest of us arent?
You're one bitter hateful fcukwit. And one poisonous little b*stard to boot!
You and a few other hateful fcukrs here are the reason why so few Dubs or reasonable people from other counties post on this forum.
You're welcome to each other!
Do you want a bit more tar for that brush there?
Quote from: Hill16 Blues on September 21, 2015, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 21, 2015, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 04:53:01 PM
Jaysus Benny harsh. It was more a study in the vagaries of sport and a commentary in the difference a year makes. But sure yeah, f**k him and his kid. ::)
Yeah, f**k em all! ;D It wasn't the kid I was getting at, but it was easy for AB to give it another year with a big Celtic Cross dangled in front of him.
By the way, why was the kid allowed on the pitch when the rest of us arent?
You're one bitter hateful fcukwit. And one poisonous little b*stard to boot!
You and a few other hateful fcukrs here are the reason why so few Dubs or reasonable people from other counties post on this forum.
You're welcome to each other!
Yes, I'm the poisonous, bitter, hateful bastard for asking two legitimate questions ::)
Great night in O'Connell street. Fantastic atmosphere with lots of singing, flags, and of course the victorious Dubs. There were even a few Kerry tops to be seen (fair dues to them).
This victory will bring loads of extra sponsorship rolling in which should increase even further our unfair advantage and ensure that we keep mopping up the trophies. ;D
Roll on the O'Byrne Cup.
O'Gara and Mannion being back next year will be a boost
Congrats to Dublin. Good set of supporters. Good times for them.
I'd say Dublin should be a little worried about their underage structures. Last year they were beaten in AI semis by Donegal. This year didn't make it out of Leinster. The current U17s were hammered this year by Cavan in Gerry Reilly tournament.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 21, 2015, 10:15:58 PM
Great night in O'Connell street. Fantastic atmosphere with lots of singing, flags, and of course the victorious Dubs. There were even a few Kerry tops to be seen (fair dues to them).
This victory will bring loads of extra sponsorship rolling in which should increase even further our unfair advantage and ensure that we keep mopping up the trophies. ;D
Roll on the O'Byrne Cup.
Bet ye have no JP McManus !!!!!
That said ye did us in thurles this year,
Quote from: Drummerboy on September 21, 2015, 10:44:34 PM
I'd say Dublin should be a little worried about their underage structures. Last year they were beaten in AI semis by Donegal. This year didn't make it out of Leinster. The current U17s were hammered this year by Cavan in Gerry Reilly tournament.
Dunno about that the dublin team now only need a few from each team to make the grade now. The bottom line is that the advantages they have will mean that like kilkenny they can bring in a 22 year old each year to strengthen/freshen things. Ger Aylward = Brian Fenton
I thought the game was intense, if not fancy, different conditions call for other characteristics and Dublin still had to deliver the goods from their top drawer. It was a worthy AI final and i've seen plenty of dire finals. I didn't even mind the rain. The dice could have rolled Kerry's way but Dublin were in that AI winning zone and would not let it slip, a brilliant achievement.
It's a shame that a big % of the dublin input here is from that grade A, paranoid, chip laden spoofer, Indiana, real Dub fans are by and large, actual human beings :D
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: Drummerboy on September 21, 2015, 10:44:34 PM
I'd say Dublin should be a little worried about their underage structures. Last year they were beaten in AI semis by Donegal. This year didn't make it out of Leinster. The current U17s were hammered this year by Cavan in Gerry Reilly tournament.
Dunno about that the dublin team now only need a few from each team to make the grade now. The bottom line is that the advantages they have will mean that like kilkenny they can bring in a 22 year old each year to strengthen/freshen things. Ger Aylward = Brian Fenton
He's right in some ways . Once Bernard, Flynn and Connolly go they won't be replaced easily. We've a pile of inside forwards coming through but very thin at midfield and wing forwards.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 21, 2015, 11:36:00 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 21, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: Drummerboy on September 21, 2015, 10:44:34 PM
I'd say Dublin should be a little worried about their underage structures. Last year they were beaten in AI semis by Donegal. This year didn't make it out of Leinster. The current U17s were hammered this year by Cavan in Gerry Reilly tournament.
Dunno about that the dublin team now only need a few from each team to make the grade now. The bottom line is that the advantages they have will mean that like kilkenny they can bring in a 22 year old each year to strengthen/freshen things. Ger Aylward = Brian Fenton
He's right in some ways . Once Bernard, Flynn and Connolly go they won't be replaced easily. We've a pile of inside forwards coming through but very thin at midfield and wing forwards.
Bernard Flynn retired years ago ;)
Quote from: Drummerboy on September 21, 2015, 10:44:34 PM
I'd say Dublin should be a little worried about their underage structures. Last year they were beaten in AI semis by Donegal. This year didn't make it out of Leinster. The current U17s were hammered this year by Cavan in Gerry Reilly tournament.
You could say similar for every other county apart from Kerry.
Has anyone pulled Martin McHugh up on this yet?
https://www.facebook.com/TheSundayGame/videos/640445622756255/ (https://www.facebook.com/TheSundayGame/videos/640445622756255/)
The last team I would call mentally weak!!!
Maybe this is what Indiana was on about re. Bottle.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 22, 2015, 02:41:31 PM
Maybe this is what Indiana was on about re. Bottle.
No no Indiana definitely said it was the Kerry lads who questioned the Dubs' bottle!
I know, but maybe he was mixing up Martín with another green and gold thing..
Any team that can beat Kildare in January has bottle 8)
Quote from: heffo on September 21, 2015, 10:36:59 PM
O'Gara and Mannion being back next year will be a boost
Also keep an eye on young Conor McHugh from Na Fianna - great under age career.
Just about recovered from the celebrations - I'm not going to claim it was a great game, but there was a real feeling of satisfaction in dogging it out. In 2011 we probably stole it, in 2013 we went toe to toe and came out ahead, but this year, well, unless you were there (having watched it again last night) you didn't really get a sense of the inevitability of the result. After the initial flurry after DOS came on for Kerry, Dublin's control was total - summed up maybe to the air of indulgent bemusement when Galvin came on to the pitch. Some Kerry supporters were going mad, but most people in the stadium were thinking the same thing - if he is the answer, they are asking the wrong question on the sideline.
I think if it had been a dry day we would have destroyed them on the scoreboard - which in the long run may have been a better result for them. Now Kerry have a winter to brood about a "non-performance" and the temptation to deceive themselves will always be there. If I was them, I'd be sticking with E Fitz, but I'd be telling him to consider next year as year zero - chop out all the older performers there at the weekend and base it on a youth system that has been flowering quite impressively over the past couple of seasons. I know they are good at retreading senior statesmen down there, but it seems this has become standard practice rather than a contingency plan. I honestly believe that if you played that game 10 times over in a variety of conditions with the same teams and you'd get the same result, or worse, for the Kingdom. And they need to realise this if they want to regain Sam quickly.
As for us, so proud to have been there and seen players like ROC, Jonny, Kilkenny, Paddy Andrews, James McCarthy, Fenton etc take central roles. You are only as strong as your weakest links and when you have a day when your goalkeeper is stuttering, your centre back has huge questions over his fitness (and he was definitely saving himself during the game), your acclaimed most talented player is not going great at half forward, and your main scoring threat is finding it difficult to handle the ball (though the amount of work and vital tackles that Berno put in was amazing), it is so satisfying to see the others step forward. A true team, the best dubs side i have ever seen, and though the arguments about "greatness" will rage, they're certainly up there with Kerry and Tyrone teams of 2003/2009 (personally I think they play a better brand of football).
Met a fair few Kerry fans on Sunday night, gracious to a fault as always, so commiserations to them. Up the Dubs!
Talk about getting carried away with a result.nothing between the two teams and if use played another 10 times it would be 5-5.
I think it would end 8-2 Dublin
Quote from: easytiger95 on September 22, 2015, 07:12:35 PM
Just about recovered from the celebrations - I'm not going to claim it was a great game, but there was a real feeling of satisfaction in dogging it out. In 2011 we probably stole it, in 2013 we went toe to toe and came out ahead, but this year, well, unless you were there (having watched it again last night) you didn't really get a sense of the inevitability of the result. After the initial flurry after DOS came on for Kerry, Dublin's control was total - summed up maybe to the air of indulgent bemusement when Galvin came on to the pitch. Some Kerry supporters were going mad, but most people in the stadium were thinking the same thing - if he is the answer, they are asking the wrong question on the sideline.
I think if it had been a dry day we would have destroyed them on the scoreboard - which in the long run may have been a better result for them. Now Kerry have a winter to brood about a "non-performance" and the temptation to deceive themselves will always be there. If I was them, I'd be sticking with E Fitz, but I'd be telling him to consider next year as year zero - chop out all the older performers there at the weekend and base it on a youth system that has been flowering quite impressively over the past couple of seasons. I know they are good at retreading senior statesmen down there, but it seems this has become standard practice rather than a contingency plan. I honestly believe that if you played that game 10 times over in a variety of conditions with the same teams and you'd get the same result, or worse, for the Kingdom. And they need to realise this if they want to regain Sam quickly.
As for us, so proud to have been there and seen players like ROC, Jonny, Kilkenny, Paddy Andrews, James McCarthy, Fenton etc take central roles. You are only as strong as your weakest links and when you have a day when your goalkeeper is stuttering, your centre back has huge questions over his fitness (and he was definitely saving himself during the game), your acclaimed most talented player is not going great at half forward, and your main scoring threat is finding it difficult to handle the ball (though the amount of work and vital tackles that Berno put in was amazing), it is so satisfying to see the others step forward. A true team, the best dubs side i have ever seen, and though the arguments about "greatness" will rage, they're certainly up there with Kerry and Tyrone teams of 2003/2009 (personally I think they play a better brand of football).
Met a fair few Kerry fans on Sunday night, gracious to a fault as always, so commiserations to them. Up the Dubs!
Agree totally with that bit. Thought the rain kept Kerry in it.
Quote from: redzone on September 22, 2015, 07:57:40 PM
Talk about getting carried away with a result.nothing between the two teams and if use played another 10 times it would be 5-5.
Except for the fact that on the previous three occasions we've played, Dublin have won. And this was the game where they were at their most dominant (despite the scoreboard, as I spoke about above).
Quote from: easytiger95 on September 22, 2015, 08:22:59 PM
Quote from: redzone on September 22, 2015, 07:57:40 PM
Talk about getting carried away with a result.nothing between the two teams and if use played another 10 times it would be 5-5.
Except for the fact that on the previous three occasions we've played, Dublin have won. And this was the game where they were at their most dominant (despite the scoreboard, as I spoke about above).
The current dublin v kerry rivalry is similar to the 70s in that After a few years one team is on decline. Kerry now and dublin from 78 onwards . Since 2008 Kerry have been in decline but due to "muscle memory" tradition and bit of luck won two all Ireland's . They remained competitive due to a big drop in general standards . Good sized counties like kildare , Meath and Galway have not really pushed on. Although Kildare were good from 2008 to 2011.
Cork have regressed since 2010 ; Tyrone regressed from 2008 and only look like coming back now. Armagh have also gone back. Only for Mayo and Donegal twould be dull.
Yep, totally agree Ashman, which is their big problem - very similar as well to the end of the great eighties team, where Jacko, Bomber and Mikey Sheehy etc were still go to guys (in Jacko's case all the way into the 90s).
Quote from: easytiger95 on September 22, 2015, 09:31:59 PM
Yep, totally agree Ashman, which is their big problem - very similar as well to the end of the great eighties team, where Jacko, Bomber and Mikey Sheehy etc were still go to guys (in Jacko's case all the way into the 90s).
Kerry are replacing departees with lesser players. Similar to munster in rugby.
That said I think they will play dublin in semi next year. Yes , things are that predictable.
Quote from: ashman on September 22, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on September 22, 2015, 09:31:59 PM
Yep, totally agree Ashman, which is their big problem - very similar as well to the end of the great eighties team, where Jacko, Bomber and Mikey Sheehy etc were still go to guys (in Jacko's case all the way into the 90s).
Kerry are replacing departees with lesser players. Similar to munster in rugby.
That said I think they will play dublin in semi next year. Yes , things are that predictable.
It's looking like that surely. You never know though, they MIGHT wobble at the quarters, especially if Down make it that far and are drawn against them...
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 22, 2015, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 22, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on September 22, 2015, 09:31:59 PM
Yep, totally agree Ashman, which is their big problem - very similar as well to the end of the great eighties team, where Jacko, Bomber and Mikey Sheehy etc were still go to guys (in Jacko's case all the way into the 90s).
Kerry are replacing departees with lesser players. Similar to munster in rugby.
That said I think they will play dublin in semi next year. Yes , things are that predictable.
It's looking like that surely. You never know though, they MIGHT wobble at the quarters, especially if Down make it that far and are drawn against them...
A Mayo Dublin Final next year!
I think this generation of dubs will prove to be a better outfit than the 70s. Their football is crazy, kamikaze at times and they have some of the dirtiest hoors in Ireland playing for them, but they have 3 all Irelands behind them. They are glorious on the front foot. Jim Gavin proved he can manage them this year, and yes they would struggle in the ulster championship, but they don't have to play in it either. Fair play to them . A great team.
Why would they struggle in the Ulster championship? Ulster is a tougher province than the others but it has no genuine All Ireland contender anymore and that's the only type of team that can possibly beat Dublin.
they are already a better Dublin team than that 70`s team
Quote from: Zulu on September 22, 2015, 10:49:07 PM
Why would they struggle in the Ulster championship? Ulster is a tougher province than the others but it has no genuine All Ireland contender anymore and that's the only type of team that can possibly beat Dublin.
I think the idea that we'd be beaten in Clones is absurd. If our players can deal with the weight of expectation that goes with playing for Dublin then I think playing in Clones is unlikely to prove too difficult in front of a crowd one third of the size of a full house in CP.
When was the last time ye won a game away from croke park.
Quote from: rrhf on September 22, 2015, 11:11:53 PM
When was the last time ye won a game away from croke park.
When we hockeyed Monaghan in the league in clones this year
Quote from: INDIANA on September 23, 2015, 12:22:35 AM
Quote from: rrhf on September 22, 2015, 11:11:53 PM
When was the last time ye won a game away from croke park.
When we hockeyed Monaghan in the league in clones this year
If every result in the League was used to predict the championship, it would be a more interesting competition altogether.
Not going say much on here, but to say I am smiling at all the haters on this site crying internally is a joy. Don't care what stick you are trying to take away from Dublin's achievement with, ignorant stuff from some people,not even going to bother reading it, To me, this Dublin team is the best ever to play the game. People will say yeah win a couple more and you may be but no, based on the last 5 years, the best to ever play the game.
Philly Mc the best defender to play the game, Gooch was lucky to keep him to a point, player of the year and a gentlemen.
Enjoy the winter lads.
:)
Will that be your last on the matter aristo?
Quote from: rrhf on September 22, 2015, 10:46:29 PM
I think this generation of dubs will prove to be a better outfit than the 70s. Their football is crazy, kamikaze at times and they have some of the dirtiest hoors in Ireland playing for them, but they have 3 all Irelands behind them. They are glorious on the front foot. Jim Gavin proved he can manage them this year, and yes they would struggle in the ulster championship, but they don't have to play in it either. Fair play to them . A great team.
It's gas to see the outrage at one mildly negative comment in the middle of a post lavishing praise on Dublin. But they don't care what the haterz think, no no no no...
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 23, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
Not going say much on here, but to say I am smiling at all the haters on this site crying internally is a joy. Don't care what stick you are trying to take away from Dublin's achievement with, ignorant stuff from some people,not even going to bother reading it, To me, this Dublin team is the best ever to play the game. People will say yeah win a couple more and you may be but no, based on the last 5 years, the best to ever play the game.
Philly Mc the best defender to play the game, Gooch was lucky to keep him to a point, player of the year and a gentlemen.
Enjoy the winter lads.
:)
Is there still a bit of blood in the alcohol system? :) Dublin deserving winnners, I think most people have said that. In fact I thought they should have won by 10 points. But the comments about Philly above must be due to celebrations :) Obviously I haven't a clue what Philly is like off the field, like most lads I'd assume he's probably a grand lad, but on the field he's certainly not a gentleman, and if you said that to his face he'd probably puke :)
Congrats though Aristo, I think I left yourself and easytiger out of the list earlier. Enjoy the winter of content :)
Quote from: INDIANA on September 22, 2015, 11:02:31 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 22, 2015, 10:49:07 PM
Why would they struggle in the Ulster championship? Ulster is a tougher province than the others but it has no genuine All Ireland contender anymore and that's the only type of team that can possibly beat Dublin.
I think the idea that we'd be beaten in Clones is absurd. If our players can deal with the weight of expectation that goes with playing for Dublin then I think playing in Clones is unlikely to prove too difficult in front of a crowd one third of the size of a full house in CP.
Very likely that Dublin would win Ulster championships but would they win as often as they win Leinsters?
You will likely argue different but has to be a massive advantage to knowing that you'll be playing in the same venue all year - your prematch routine, overnights, pitch size is all repeated throughout the build up and through to the final stages. Playing in front of a crowd would be way down the list regards advantages it would bring.
But the biggest is the competition that playing in Leinster currently brings. This may change but its clear that playing Ulster requires a different build up than planning to peak for a All-Ireland Quarter final and from there on know you will be tested rather than having to build towards testing away game at the start of June.
This may well change but it will need other teams in Leinster to come up to Dublins level rather than them to go down. Same may be said in other provinces at other times.
Dublin are current top dogs and rightly so, they will continue to be as they have great players and a great Mgt team. Time will tell how great they will be but its up to other teams to challenge that, be it in Croke Park, Tullomore, Navan or wherever.
Whens the draw made anyway????
Thought Sundays game was a big let down in terms of the quality of the basics of the game. No doubt the weather was the main contribution to this and I know I was praying for Kerry to snatch a goal to force a replay, which would have hopefully had better playing conditions. Fair play to the Dubs though, many a team would have had doubts spreading in their minds after missing 2/3 goal opportunities, especially when playing the Kingdom. Thought Johnny Cooper was having a great game before coming off injured, would have liked to have seen Tommy Walsh come on in around the middle and use his pace and strength to carry the ball in closer, as opposed to the long ball passes in from Sheehan and co. which didn't harbour much success because of the conditions, even with big Donaghy in the square.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 23, 2015, 09:53:39 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 23, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
Not going say much on here, but to say I am smiling at all the haters on this site crying internally is a joy. Don't care what stick you are trying to take away from Dublin's achievement with, ignorant stuff from some people,not even going to bother reading it, To me, this Dublin team is the best ever to play the game. People will say yeah win a couple more and you may be but no, based on the last 5 years, the best to ever play the game.
Philly Mc the best defender to play the game, Gooch was lucky to keep him to a point, player of the year and a gentlemen.
Enjoy the winter lads.
:)
Is there still a bit of blood in the alcohol system? :) Dublin deserving winnners, I think most people have said that. In fact I thought they should have won by 10 points. But the comments about Philly above must be due to celebrations :) Obviously I haven't a clue what Philly is like off the field, like most lads I'd assume he's probably a grand lad, but on the field he's certainly not a gentleman, and if you said that to his face he'd probably puke :)
Congrats though Aristo, I think I left yourself and easytiger out of the list earlier. Enjoy the winter of content :)
Thanks.
Philly - Leaving out all the other "stuff " shall we say, I thought he was excellent throughout the year, for a corner back to outscore his man and two great forwards like he did in the last 2 games and keep them scoreless is an excellent contribution to the team, id imagine he is most certainly the best defender if not one of the best players in the country now no matter what people think or say about him. He wont get player of the year but to me he is a shoe in.
On a side note I have never seen rain like that, it didn't stop, hard for both teams.
I am going to be contrary here and predict Kerry will win at least half of the next 10.
The groundwork has been set at underage level and three successive defeats to Dublin will drive them to another level.
Quote from: bcarrier on September 23, 2015, 04:36:00 PM
I am going to be contrary here and predict Kerry will win at least half of the next 10.
The groundwork has been set at underage level and three successive defeats to Dublin will drive them to another level.
Minors look good alright but it can take a long time even for U-21's to settle into senior football. Let alone minors. A good while to wait yet for those lads to break through.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 23, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
Not going say much on here, but to say I am smiling at all the haters on this site crying internally is a joy. Don't care what stick you are trying to take away from Dublin's achievement with, ignorant stuff from some people,not even going to bother reading it, To me, this Dublin team is the best ever to play the game. People will say yeah win a couple more and you may be but no, based on the last 5 years, the best to ever play the game.
Philly Mc the best defender to play the game, Gooch was lucky to keep him to a point, player of the year and a gentlemen.
Enjoy the winter lads.
:)
I expected Dublin to win and as a neural at the game I was glad it went the way it did. A dry day they would have got a run on Kerry and blown them away. No harm for the Kerry mafia to go away and digest what was a wet day trouncing. Even top counties need to go away and squirm for a while. Most counties squirm every year.
Dublin fans about were A1 the times I encountered them these last few weeks and down the years in games. Not the same sense of entitlement that you get from others when you play them. In general Dubs might have a jibe but don t condescend like the likes of Kerry, Meath or Galway do when they are on their uppers.
No need however for some Dublin posters on here to justify or to gloat. You and Indiana are very sensitive and reactionary. No need to react or explain or anything. Winners are seldom universally loved.
I ll enjoy the winter as best I can. Any sense of annoyance I have about the championship is about our own performance when it really mattered. That's a 'housekeeping' issue and it is a calamitous revolving door in this county. But that's a problem of our own making and unlikely to be rectified any time soon/ever.
Sincerely, to all the Dubs on here ( including the contrary ones like you, Indiana and Squire), congats and enjoy. If I was in your shoes I wouldn t give a toss what others thought.
Quote from: moysider on September 25, 2015, 01:46:32 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 23, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
Not going say much on here, but to say I am smiling at all the haters on this site crying internally is a joy. Don't care what stick you are trying to take away from Dublin's achievement with, ignorant stuff from some people,not even going to bother reading it, To me, this Dublin team is the best ever to play the game. People will say yeah win a couple more and you may be but no, based on the last 5 years, the best to ever play the game.
Philly Mc the best defender to play the game, Gooch was lucky to keep him to a point, player of the year and a gentlemen.
Enjoy the winter lads.
:)
I expected Dublin to win and as a neural at the game I was glad it went the way it did. A dry day they would have got a run on Kerry and blown them away. No harm for the Kerry mafia to go away and digest what was a wet day trouncing. Even top counties need to go away and squirm for a while. Most counties squirm every year.
Dublin fans about were A1 the times I encountered them these last few weeks and down the years in games. Not the same sense of entitlement that you get from others when you play them. In general Dubs might have a jibe but don t condescend like the likes of Kerry, Meath or Galway do when they are on their uppers.
No need however for some Dublin posters on here to justify or to gloat. You and Indiana are very sensitive and reactionary. No need to react or explain or anything. Winners are seldom universally loved.
I ll enjoy the winter as best I can. Any sense of annoyance I have about the championship is about our own performance when it really mattered. That's a 'housekeeping' issue and it is a calamitous revolving door in this county. But that's a problem of our own making and unlikely to be rectified any time soon/ever.
Sincerely, to all the Dubs on here ( including the contrary ones like you, Indiana and Squire), congats and enjoy. If I was in your shoes I wouldn t give a toss what others thought.
Mayo would probably have beaten Kerry. a pity that they repeated last year by facilitating the eventual winners. Kevin McLoughlin's wides would have put the Dubs away on day 1.
Quote from: Bingo on September 23, 2015, 09:56:34 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 22, 2015, 11:02:31 PM
I think the idea that we'd be beaten in Clones is absurd. If our players can deal with the weight of expectation that goes with playing for Dublin then I think playing in Clones is unlikely to prove too difficult in front of a crowd one third of the size of a full house in CP.
Quote from: Zulu on September 22, 2015, 10:49:07 PM
Why would they struggle in the Ulster championship? Ulster is a tougher province than the others but it has no genuine All Ireland contender anymore and that's the only type of team that can possibly beat Dublin.
Very likely that Dublin would win Ulster championships but would they win as often as they win Leinsters?
You will likely argue different but has to be a massive advantage to knowing that you'll be playing in the same venue all year - your prematch routine, overnights, pitch size is all repeated throughout the build up and through to the final stages. Playing in front of a crowd would be way down the list regards advantages it would bring.
But the biggest is the competition that playing in Leinster currently brings. This may change but its clear that playing Ulster requires a different build up than planning to peak for a All-Ireland Quarter final and from there on know you will be tested rather than having to build towards testing away game at the start of June.
This may well change but it will need other teams in Leinster to come up to Dublins level rather than them to go down. Same may be said in other provinces at other times.
Dublin are current top dogs and rightly so, they will continue to be as they have great players and a great Mgt team. Time will tell how great they will be but its up to other teams to challenge that, be it in Croke Park, Tullomore, Navan or wherever.
Whens the draw made anyway????
Dublin would not win 10 out of 11 Ulsters. No way. Ulster is the only competitive province. And it's insane to think no all Ireland contender will arise in Ulster out to 2025 whereas in Leinster bar the Dubs it's well possible unless Meath get organised. Leinster is a joke and has been for over a decade. Here are their Leinster wins.In the past a decent dub team might win 3 or 4 in a row.
But not ten bar Meath robbing Louth.
, 1894,
1896, 1897, 1898, 1899,
1901, 1902,,
1904, 1906, 1907, 1908,
1920, 1921, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1932, 1933, 1934,
1941, 1942,
1955, 1958, 1959,
1962, 1963,1965,
1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, ,
1983, 1984, 1985, 1989, ,[/i]1992, 1993, 1994, 1995,[/i], 2002
2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
Why leave out 2010? Does that year not count?
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 25, 2015, 01:25:37 PM
Why leave out 2010? Does that year not count?
Not in Louth.
Quote from: moysider on September 25, 2015, 01:46:32 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 23, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
Not going say much on here, but to say I am smiling at all the haters on this site crying internally is a joy. Don't care what stick you are trying to take away from Dublin's achievement with, ignorant stuff from some people,not even going to bother reading it, To me, this Dublin team is the best ever to play the game. People will say yeah win a couple more and you may be but no, based on the last 5 years, the best to ever play the game.
Philly Mc the best defender to play the game, Gooch was lucky to keep him to a point, player of the year and a gentlemen.
Enjoy the winter lads.
:)
I expected Dublin to win and as a neural at the game I was glad it went the way it did. A dry day they would have got a run on Kerry and blown them away. No harm for the Kerry mafia to go away and digest what was a wet day trouncing. Even top counties need to go away and squirm for a while. Most counties squirm every year.
Dublin fans about were A1 the times I encountered them these last few weeks and down the years in games. Not the same sense of entitlement that you get from others when you play them. In general Dubs might have a jibe but don t condescend like the likes of Kerry, Meath or Galway do when they are on their uppers.
Ha jaysus you couldn't make it up. This from the fella who said a few months ago that Mayo should be winning Connacht every year pretty much ad infinitum. Ad infinitum of course meaning "again and again in the same way; forever." And it's everyone else that is entitled and arrogant?
Just wondering if the Gooch has been found yet? Its been a full week now.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 28, 2015, 11:16:59 AM
Just wondering if the Gooch has been found yet? Its been a full week now.
Gooch scored 5 points yesterday but Crokes were beaten by Dingle in the Senior Club Championship final in Kerry. I suppose he flopped again on the big day.
Whether modern Kerry footballers like it or not they are compared in Kerry with the 1970s/1980s team which by and large were not bested by any other team.
The Tyrone and now Dublin "stain" , in addition to losing to Armagh and Down (especially annoying for them) in big games will be held against them . "Soft" AI wins v Mayo and Cork not the wins the Kerry fans demand in AIFs.
Cooper will be compared always with Mikey Sheehy , John Egan, Pat Spillane etc and it is a tough comparison. Hard to believe he I believe is well over 30 now........ time flies.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 28, 2015, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 28, 2015, 11:16:59 AM
Just wondering if the Gooch has been found yet? Its been a full week now.
Gooch scored 5 points yesterday but Crokes were beaten by Dingle in the Senior Club Championship final in Kerry. I suppose he flopped again on the big day.
You don't have to convince me, great player, but I agree with Brolly with some of his comments and its backed up by fact that in certain games not only does he go missing but is anonymous throughout the game. Do you not agree?
But look, he's 32 now, he wont be around forever.
In my opinion, gooch 'goes missing' because he is a forward, and Kerry don't get the ball into him when they are in trouble. It's almost a self fulfilling prophesy. It's hard for a corner forward to change a game's flow.