Poll
Question:
Who will win Connacht 2015?
Option 1: Mayo
votes: 36
Option 2: Roscommon
votes: 21
Option 3: Galway
votes: 8
Option 4: Sligo
votes: 9
Option 5: Leitrim
votes: 7
Just a few weeks until Galway hit the Big Apple. This has the potential to be a very Competitive Connacht Championship. Only time will tell whether it turns out that way. Can Mayo make it 5 in a row, or will emerging Roscommon and Galway teams restore the glory teams. Presuming Galway and Ros beat New York and London respectively, will Leitrim and Sligo have a surprise up their sleeve? Putting my head on the block, i fear that Mayo will make it 5 in a row.
The All Ireland Championship officially starts this weekend with its annual exhibition game when New York are served up as an apéritif for one of the five Connacht sides. This year it's the turn of Galway to try and match Mayo's 22 point victory last year.
Galway are priced up at 1/66 to win the match with New York at 25/1 to win their first ever championship match.
John Mulholland has set Galway a handicap line of 13 points. Its Galway -13 at Evs, New York +13 10/11.
Match Betting
New York 25/1
Draw 50/1
Galway 1/6
Handicap Betting
New York +13 10/11
H'cap Tie 8/1
Galway -13 Evs
After Dublin's win in the league final, John Mulholland has cut them into 11/8 from 13/8. Kerry are next in the betting at 3/1.
All Ireland Football Outright Betting
Dublin 11-8
Kerry 3-1
Mayo 7-1
Cork 8-1
Donegal 12-1
Tyrone 22-1
Monaghan 25-1
Galway 25-1
Armagh 25-1
Roscommon 40-1
Derry 50-1
Meath 66-1
Kildare 80-1
Down 80-1
Cavan 125-1
Tipperary 150-1
Westmeath 200-1
Laois 200-1
Clare 200-1
Wexford 300-1
Sligo 400-1
Louth 500-1
Antrim 500-1
Longford 500-1
Fermanagh 500-1
Limerick 750-1
Wicklow 1000-1
Leitrim 1000-1
Waterford 1000-1
Offaly 1000-1
Carlow 1000-1
Connacht SFC
Mayo 5-6
Galway 11-4
Roscommon 10-3
Sligo 16-1
London 150-1
Leitrim 150-1
New York 750-1
Leinster SFC
Dublin 1-7
Meath 7-1
Kildare 16-1
Laois 33-1
Westmeath 66-1
Wexford 80-1
Longford 200-1
Louth 200-1
Offaly 250-1
Wicklow 250-1
Carlow 750-1
Munster SFC
Kerry 8-15
Cork 15-8
Tipperary 22-1
Clare 33-1
Limerick 150-1
Waterford 250-1
Ulster SFC
Monaghan 5-2
Donegal 7-2
Armagh 5-1
Derry 8-1
Cavan 8-1
Down 9-1
Tyrone 9-1
Fermanagh 25-1
Antrim 40-1
Didn't realise that New York/Galway was on as soon as next weekend. Those odds on Mayo of 5/6 to win Connacht are very short imo.
Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 02:53:15 PM
Didn't realise that New York/Galway was on as soon as next weekend. Those odds on Mayo of 5/6 to win Connacht are very short imo.
And probably about right. Roscommon and Galway have not had a big scalp in the Championship in years. They both have great players coming through, but they have yet to cross that line.
With both Sligo and Leitrim playing away from home and both having had so-so leagues, it's hard to see either beating Roscommon / Galway.
Where would a Galway / Mayo v Roscommon final be played?
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 27, 2015, 03:04:34 PM
With both Sligo and Leitrim playing away from home and both having had so-so leagues, it's hard to see either beating Roscommon / Galway.
Where would a Galway / Mayo v Roscommon final be played?
Salthill or Cbar
In order for Ross to win Connacht they need to win 3 away games.
The Sligo/ Ros game is in Sligo. A real potential banana skin if ever i saw one. That is assuming, of course, that we haven't come a cropper in Ruislip!!
Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 03:15:14 PM
The Sligo/ Ros game is in Sligo. A real potential banana skin if ever i saw one. That is assuming, of course, that we haven't come a cropper in Ruislip!!
Didn't realise that - Sligo finished the league reaonably well so could be in with a shout of beating an over-confident Roscommon team in Markievicz.
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 27, 2015, 03:04:34 PM
With both Sligo and Leitrim playing away from home and both having had so-so leagues, it's hard to see either beating Roscommon / Galway.
Where would a Galway / Mayo v Roscommon final be played?
Leitrim will play Galway on 17th May, at Páirc Seán Mac Diarmada according to
GAA.ie (http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/national-fixtures/gaa-football-all-ireland-senior-championship/connacht/)
The biggest worry I d have from a Mayo point of view is all the negative stuff coming out of the camp. If even some of it is true we could be in bother.
Where i see Mayo having an edge is in experience. A lot of their panel have at least 4 Connacht medals. They have the know how and ability to win close games in Connacht when they mightn't have played all that well. The Roscommon game in Hyde Park last year ir a classic example. However, having said that, who knows what could happen on any given day.
I'm not being funny , I think we will walk it. We didn't go full tilt in Connacht last year because of 13 where it was said we peaked too early in Connacht and Q/f v Donegal running out of steam in the second half of final and a bit rusty v Tyrone in semi too. This year will be different IMO ,the all Ireland dream is over but Connacht will be gone at hammer and tongs and both Galway and Ros won't live with that sort of robust energy Mayo are capable of.
Quote from: larryin89 on April 27, 2015, 06:13:51 PM
I'm not being funny , I think we will walk it. We didn't go full tilt in Connacht last year because of 13 where it was said we peaked too early in Connacht and Q/f v Donegal running out of steam in the second half of final and a bit rusty v Tyrone in semi too. This year will be different IMO ,the all Ireland dream is over but Connacht will be gone at hammer and tongs and both Galway and Ros won't live with that sort of robust energy Mayo are capable of.
I hope you're right...but the fact that there seemed to be no real plan once the ball reached the 40 metre line except shoot wides doesn't bode well. I think Galway could turn us over to be honest.
larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Mayo may be fav to win Connacht but either Galway or Roscommon are well capable of beating them, Galway are as good as anything out there from no 8 to 15, if they can sort out the defence they have massive potential, Rossies are making progress all the time, another gem in Cian Connolly made his senior debut in Croker yesterday and what a game he had, those of us who have seen him in action at club level were not one bit surprised and heres the thing, there are several more players to be introduced over the next couple of years, even at this stage Ros on their day can compete with anyone, the day is not far away when we will be able to compete consistently with the top teams. Mayos days of cruising to a Connacht have gone and will not return with this generation of players, their race is run and maybe their experience will carry them to five in a row but Galway will want to protect their record and the last thing the Rossies would want to see is Mayo doing five in a row, so a lot to play for, I think the guard will change this year, who will achieve that I just can not call, I just hope its us Rossies, best of luck to all teams and heres hoping there are no serious injuries to the players who give so much for their counties.
Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Voted Mayo, they will still have too much for Galway and Roscommon this year I think, the All Ireland series will tell whether Mayo remain in the top four teams at the very top with a shout of winning Sam or if they are heading back towards the pack after a great run the past few years under Horan.
Quote from: larryin89 on April 27, 2015, 07:51:21 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Horan last year played for the guts of 50 minutes with two Rookies Diarmuid O'Connor and Conor O'Shea in the half forward line. The two were out of their debt (at the time). In effect we had no half forward line bar Doherty for the Guts of the game. Mayo you would expect won't go into a game against Roscommon or Galway with this level of experimentation this year.
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Quote from: larryin89 on April 27, 2015, 07:51:21 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Horan last year played for the guts of 50 minutes with two Rookies Diarmuid O'Connor and Conor O'Shea in the half forward line. The two were out of their debt (at the time). In effect we had no half forward line bar Doherty for the Guts of the game. Mayo you would expect won't go into a game against Roscommon or Galway with this level of experimentation this year.
Didn't O Connor play in a few league games and started against New York before that Roscommon game? He is a likely starter this June. What has happened to Conor O Shea since that game injured or not given game time?
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Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Horan last year played for the guts of 50 minutes with two Rookies Diarmuid O'Connor and Conor O'Shea in the half forward line. The two were out of their debt (at the time). In effect we had no half forward line bar Doherty for the Guts of the game. Mayo you would expect won't go into a game against Roscommon or Galway with this level of experimentation this year.
Didn't O Connor play in a few league games and started against New York before that Roscommon game? He is a likely starter this June. What has happened to Conor O Shea since that game injured or not given game time?
Conor is not good enough (at the moment) injured or not injured. Diarmuid has come on in the year! Both are still rather young so I don't want to be harsh on them. The point was Horan chanced his arm last year by throwing them in the deep end for the guts of an hour. Hoping to unearth something (why not?). Anyway it nearly backfired.
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Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Horan last year played for the guts of 50 minutes with two Rookies Diarmuid O'Connor and Conor O'Shea in the half forward line. The two were out of their debt (at the time). In effect we had no half forward line bar Doherty for the Guts of the game. Mayo you would expect won't go into a game against Roscommon or Galway with this level of experimentation this year.
Didn't O Connor play in a few league games and started against New York before that Roscommon game? He is a likely starter this June. What has happened to Conor O Shea since that game injured or not given game time?
Conor is not good enough (at the moment) injured or not injured. Diarmuid has come on in the year! Both are still rather young so I don't want to be harsh on them. The point was Horan chanced his arm last year by throwing them in the deep end for the guts of an hour. Hoping to unearth something (why not?). Anyway it nearly backfired.
In fairness it was your usually excellent HB being totally stuffed that make a game of it. Had little to do with the half-forwards play, good bad or indifferent. Indeed much of the Mayo team were just as anonymous as DO'C and CO'S that day.
We highlighted deficiencies in Mayo's game that Kerry exploited later on in the championship, there was alot of continuty in terms of that game and what ultimately ended Horan's reign. If we'd used Kilbride as Star was used we'd probably have been out of sight of any Andy Moran-inspired heroics that day.
That's fair enough syf , be no bother to Ye this year if we did happen to beat Galway then. At least we know why Kerry beat us now, they got advice from Roscommon .
As a matter of interest though what deficiencies in Mayo did Roscommon highlight . Game is a bit of a blur for me was at a wedding in achill the night before.
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Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Horan last year played for the guts of 50 minutes with two Rookies Diarmuid O'Connor and Conor O'Shea in the half forward line. The two were out of their debt (at the time). In effect we had no half forward line bar Doherty for the Guts of the game. Mayo you would expect won't go into a game against Roscommon or Galway with this level of experimentation this year.
Didn't O Connor play in a few league games and started against New York before that Roscommon game? He is a likely starter this June. What has happened to Conor O Shea since that game injured or not given game time?
Conor is not good enough (at the moment) injured or not injured. Diarmuid has come on in the year! Both are still rather young so I don't want to be harsh on them. The point was Horan chanced his arm last year by throwing them in the deep end for the guts of an hour. Hoping to unearth something (why not?). Anyway it nearly backfired.
Correct - both of you I think!
Horan really pushed the boat out that day and just about got away with it. O Connor the Younger may well start this summer. Conor played well last Sunday for Breaffy and has time on his side.
Maybe it's wishful thinking but maybe this new Mayo management might just coax/ goad/ bully a summer out of this panel. Not an old team but experienced beyond its years. Hardly a bad thing. Players that had influence in Horan's time may not have same leeway now. That might not be a bad thing.
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Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Horan last year played for the guts of 50 minutes with two Rookies Diarmuid O'Connor and Conor O'Shea in the half forward line. The two were out of their debt (at the time). In effect we had no half forward line bar Doherty for the Guts of the game. Mayo you would expect won't go into a game against Roscommon or Galway with this level of experimentation this year.
Didn't O Connor play in a few league games and started against New York before that Roscommon game? He is a likely starter this June. What has happened to Conor O Shea since that game injured or not given game time?
Conor is not good enough (at the moment) injured or not injured. Diarmuid has come on in the year! Both are still rather young so I don't want to be harsh on them. The point was Horan chanced his arm last year by throwing them in the deep end for the guts of an hour. Hoping to unearth something (why not?). Anyway it nearly backfired.
In fairness it was your usually excellent HB being totally stuffed that make a game of it. Had little to do with the half-forwards play, good bad or indifferent. Indeed much of the Mayo team were just as anonymous as DO'C and CO'S that day.
We highlighted deficiencies in Mayo's game that Kerry exploited later on in the championship, there was alot of continuty in terms of that game and what ultimately ended Horan's reign. If we'd used Kilbride as Star was usede we'd probably have been out of sight of any Andy Moran-inspired heroics that day.
With respect, what are ye on about there Sy?
Stop comparing yourself to Kerry until ye actually play them and beat them an odd time. Comparing Senan to Star is a joke. Mayo won some games in Connacht under Horan in second gear and those were close. The ones we were flying for we killed teams. It remains to be seen what happens this year. This management can't afford to lose early - the Dublin game has fucked them up with players and supporters. I expect to see a wounded and thick Mayo with a bit of old savvy thrown in. There's a lot of ambition and confidence in that team still. Probably not enough tactical stuff for Aug/Sept, but if Galway or Roscommon turn us over, they ll earn it.
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Quote from: Shrewdness on April 27, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Horan last year played for the guts of 50 minutes with two Rookies Diarmuid O'Connor and Conor O'Shea in the half forward line. The two were out of their debt (at the time). In effect we had no half forward line bar Doherty for the Guts of the game. Mayo you would expect won't go into a game against Roscommon or Galway with this level of experimentation this year.
Didn't O Connor play in a few league games and started against New York before that Roscommon game? He is a likely starter this June. What has happened to Conor O Shea since that game injured or not given game time?
Conor is not good enough (at the moment) injured or not injured. Diarmuid has come on in the year! Both are still rather young so I don't want to be harsh on them. The point was Horan chanced his arm last year by throwing them in the deep end for the guts of an hour. Hoping to unearth something (why not?). Anyway it nearly backfired.
In fairness it was your usually excellent HB being totally stuffed that make a game of it. Had little to do with the half-forwards play, good bad or indifferent. Indeed much of the Mayo team were just as anonymous as DO'C and CO'S that day.
We highlighted deficiencies in Mayo's game that Kerry exploited later on in the championship, there was alot of continuty in terms of that game and what ultimately ended Horan's reign. If we'd used Kilbride as Star was usede we'd probably have been out of sight of any Andy Moran-inspired heroics that day.
With respect, what are ye on about there Sy?
Stop comparing yourself to Kerry until ye actually play them and beat them an odd time. Comparing Senan to Star is a joke. Mayo won some games in Connacht under Horan in second gear and those were close. The ones we were flying for we killed teams. It remains to be seen what happens this year. This management can't afford to lose early - the Dublin game has fucked them up with players and supporters. I expect to see a wounded and thick Mayo with a bit of old savvy thrown in. There's a lot of ambition and confidence in that team still. Probably not enough tactical stuff for Aug/Sept, but if Galway or Roscommon turn us over, they ll earn it.
I agree. I felt dirty just comparing the two. Star has never been much of a footballer.
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larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Horan last year played for the guts of 50 minutes with two Rookies Diarmuid O'Connor and Conor O'Shea in the half forward line. The two were out of their debt (at the time). In effect we had no half forward line bar Doherty for the Guts of the game. Mayo you would expect won't go into a game against Roscommon or Galway with this level of experimentation this year.
Didn't O Connor play in a few league games and started against New York before that Roscommon game? He is a likely starter this June. What has happened to Conor O Shea since that game injured or not given game time?
Conor is not good enough (at the moment) injured or not injured. Diarmuid has come on in the year! Both are still rather young so I don't want to be harsh on them. The point was Horan chanced his arm last year by throwing them in the deep end for the guts of an hour. Hoping to unearth something (why not?). Anyway it nearly backfired.
In fairness it was your usually excellent HB being totally stuffed that make a game of it. Had little to do with the half-forwards play, good bad or indifferent. Indeed much of the Mayo team were just as anonymous as DO'C and CO'S that day.
We highlighted deficiencies in Mayo's game that Kerry exploited later on in the championship, there was alot of continuty in terms of that game and what ultimately ended Horan's reign. If we'd used Kilbride as Star was usede we'd probably have been out of sight of any Andy Moran-inspired heroics that day.
With respect, what are ye on about there Sy?
Stop comparing yourself to Kerry until ye actually play them and beat them an odd time. Comparing Senan to Star is a joke. Mayo won some games in Connacht under Horan in second gear and those were close. The ones we were flying for we killed teams. It remains to be seen what happens this year. This management can't afford to lose early - the Dublin game has fucked them up with players and supporters. I expect to see a wounded and thick Mayo with a bit of old savvy thrown in. There's a lot of ambition and confidence in that team still. Probably not enough tactical stuff for Aug/Sept, but if Galway or Roscommon turn us over, they ll earn it.
I agree. I felt dirty just comparing the two. Star has never been much of a footballer.
Some day before he retires, Roscommon might have to cope with him in a game that matters.
Being massive underdogs is where we want to be. We have been known to topple the Rossies a few times when no one gives us a chance. Obviously a big hill to climb but you never know.
Sligoman2, not many people in Ros are looking beyond the Sligo game. As i said in an earlier post, it's a potential banana skin for Ros if we start looking too far ahead of ourselves. No doubt, John Evans will reference Sligo's big win over Armagh as an indication of how Sligo can play.
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Sligoman2, not many people in Ros are looking beyond the Sligo game. As i said in an earlier post, it's a potential banana skin for Ros if we start looking too far ahead of ourselves. No doubt, John Evans will reference Sligo's big win over Armagh as an indication of how Sligo can play.
In fairness that was against the Armagh reserves. I can't remember a time we took Sligo lightly. I can remember a time Sligo took us lightly, though..
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larryin, do you not think that Mayo were at full tilt against Roscommon last year, when they came from 3 points down to win by a point?
Thanks for responding in a normal fashion and without accusing me of being someone else .
For that period we stepped up but at no way was it the same intensity as our games v Kerry.
Our league form was poor but we survived and could of even ended up in the shake up bar a late goal from cork to steal the points and a last min leveler for Donegal to steal a draw. Roscommon had a very good league campaign obviously as they won it but then again Galway got a victory in the Hyde when they had a full deck with corofin bucks back . It's all pretty yoyo in the league , look at the state of Kerry when we beat them in Killarney for example.
On paper Connacht looks tighter and that's the feeling amongst most but I'm not buying into the whole Mayo are going backwards at least not that much .
Horan last year played for the guts of 50 minutes with two Rookies Diarmuid O'Connor and Conor O'Shea in the half forward line. The two were out of their debt (at the time). In effect we had no half forward line bar Doherty for the Guts of the game. Mayo you would expect won't go into a game against Roscommon or Galway with this level of experimentation this year.
Didn't O Connor play in a few league games and started against New York before that Roscommon game? He is a likely starter this June. What has happened to Conor O Shea since that game injured or not given game time?
Conor is not good enough (at the moment) injured or not injured. Diarmuid has come on in the year! Both are still rather young so I don't want to be harsh on them. The point was Horan chanced his arm last year by throwing them in the deep end for the guts of an hour. Hoping to unearth something (why not?). Anyway it nearly backfired.
In fairness it was your usually excellent HB being totally stuffed that make a game of it. Had little to do with the half-forwards play, good bad or indifferent. Indeed much of the Mayo team were just as anonymous as DO'C and CO'S that day.
We highlighted deficiencies in Mayo's game that Kerry exploited later on in the championship, there was alot of continuty in terms of that game and what ultimately ended Horan's reign. If we'd used Kilbride as Star was usede we'd probably have been out of sight of any Andy Moran-inspired heroics that day.
With respect, what are ye on about there Sy?
Stop comparing yourself to Kerry until ye actually play them and beat them an odd time. Comparing Senan to Star is a joke. Mayo won some games in Connacht under Horan in second gear and those were close. The ones we were flying for we killed teams. It remains to be seen what happens this year. This management can't afford to lose early - the Dublin game has fucked them up with players and supporters. I expect to see a wounded and thick Mayo with a bit of old savvy thrown in. There's a lot of ambition and confidence in that team still. Probably not enough tactical stuff for Aug/Sept, but if Galway or Roscommon turn us over, they ll earn it.
I agree. I felt dirty just comparing the two. Star has never been much of a footballer.
Some day before he retires, Roscommon might have to cope with him in a game that matters.
I'd be alot more worried about Gooch or JO'D. Star is a big guy on a good team. The other two are players who have incredible football ability and are far more versatile threats. If you can stop Star's one trick - and people were doing just fine doing that for three or four seasons until your lads re-energised a career that would now be over otherwise - you'll be just fine.
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Sligoman2, not many people in Ros are looking beyond the Sligo game. As i said in an earlier post, it's a potential banana skin for Ros if we start looking too far ahead of ourselves. No doubt, John Evans will reference Sligo's big win over Armagh as an indication of how Sligo can play.
In fairness that was against the Armagh reserves. I can't remember a time we took Sligo lightly. I can remember a time Sligo took us lightly, though..
You probably are not old enough for 1981. ye were about 8 points up in 2007 early in the second half when ye thought the game was won
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Sligoman2, not many people in Ros are looking beyond the Sligo game. As i said in an earlier post, it's a potential banana skin for Ros if we start looking too far ahead of ourselves. No doubt, John Evans will reference Sligo's big win over Armagh as an indication of how Sligo can play.
In fairness that was against the Armagh reserves. I can't remember a time we took Sligo lightly. I can remember a time Sligo took us lightly, though..
You probably are not old enough for 1981. ye were about 8 points up in 2007 early in the second half when ye thought the game was won
Throw in 1997 as well.
1981 we were sliding rapidly from the highs of 77-80.
87 we were bad
97 we were plain bad
07 we had a tanned manager >:(
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1981 we were sliding rapidly from the highs of 77-80.
87 we were bad
97 we had a tanned manager >:(
I think you mean 2007 Rossfan because I remember watching the tanned colossus getting laid out by a Laythrum man in our Connacht semi final that year before going on to make fifty five changes when one would do ( Brian Heffernan anyone) for a crocked Flanagan who should never have started that All Ireland anyway!!! :'( :'( :'(
Correct Crete. Have amended post.
Where did Senan Kilbride play in the league game against Galway?
Tut, tut, tut. There was already a thread on this. http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=25518.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=25518.0)
You're right Croi, there was another thread where a lot of it was spent arguing about the spelling of the thread title, not to mention the whole Ballaghaderreen issue.... This thread refers specifically to the 2015 Connacht Championship, and if we all stay grown up, it can stay that way.
Ballagh = Mayo!!!!
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Ballagh = Mayo!!!!
**** off back to Kings Co with ya.
Mayo should have enough to win the 5 in a row but sport can be funny. Last year Ros nearly beat them and they are better this year. Galway are still a bit off the pace I'd say.
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Mayo should have enough to win the 5 in a row but sport can be funny. Last year Ros nearly beat them and they are better this year. Galway are still a bit off the pace I'd say.
I'm not going to keep harping on about the same thing as I could be fooling myself too but do you not think there was a case of Mayo not going full tilt in the Roscommon game last year , taking them lightly sort of thing ?
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Ballagh = Mayo!!!!
Fair play AZ no messing around with ye Offaly men. I really hope the Cards get AP in a ridiculously cheap trade now!! ;)
Would be interested in hearing the views of other Rossies on the following...If the entire Roscommon panel was injury free, who would your championship 15 be, to face London?
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Mayo should have enough to win the 5 in a row but sport can be funny. Last year Ros nearly beat them and they are better this year. Galway are still a bit off the pace I'd say.
I'm not going to keep harping on about the same thing as I could be fooling myself too but do you not think there was a case of Mayo not going full tilt in the Roscommon game last year , taking them lightly sort of thing ?
Don't think you are fooling yourself Larry as I thought (as well as most other Mayo fans I know) that we were trying to peak for August last year and it very nearly came off. I do think the Rossies are a good bit better this year though but I am unsure if Galway are any better or worse.
I am 50/50 on us whether we come out all guns blazing like you think or limp out meekly like so many other years!!! I just can't see us grinding out a Connacht championship as it is usually feast or famine with Mayo!!!
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Mayo should have enough to win the 5 in a row but sport can be funny. Last year Ros nearly beat them and they are better this year. Galway are still a bit off the pace I'd say.
I'm not going to keep harping on about the same thing as I could be fooling myself too but do you not think there was a case of Mayo not going full tilt in the Roscommon game last year , taking them lightly sort of thing ?
Don't think you are fooling yourself Larry as I thought (as well as most other Mayo fans I know) that we were trying to peak for August last year and it very nearly came off. I do think the Rossies are a good bit better this year though but I am unsure if Galway are any better or worse.
I am 50/50 on us whether we come out all guns blazing like you think or limp out meekly like so many other years!!! I just can't see us grinding out a Connacht championship as it is usually feast or famine with Mayo!!!
2011 sure looked like a grind.
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Mayo should have enough to win the 5 in a row but sport can be funny. Last year Ros nearly beat them and they are better this year. Galway are still a bit off the pace I'd say.
I'm not going to keep harping on about the same thing as I could be fooling myself too but do you not think there was a case of Mayo not going full tilt in the Roscommon game last year , taking them lightly sort of thing ?
Don't think you are fooling yourself Larry as I thought (as well as most other Mayo fans I know) that we were trying to peak for August last year and it very nearly came off. I do think the Rossies are a good bit better this year though but I am unsure if Galway are any better or worse.
I am 50/50 on us whether we come out all guns blazing like you think or limp out meekly like so many other years!!! I just can't see us grinding out a Connacht championship as it is usually feast or famine with Mayo!!!
2011 sure looked like a grind.
Yeah I stand corrected Syferus , I forgot about that one. I think my memory is still full of water from that final in the Hyde ;D , not to mention there was drink taken the night before( thank god I had) the extra time game in London!! ;D
Galway team to play New York has been named,
from galwaybayfm.ie
The Galway Senior Football team to face New York in the Connacht Senior Football Championships on Sunday has been named. There are three changes from the team that finished their last league game against Kildare. Brian O'Donoghue comes into goal. Liam Silke is named in the half back line while Danny Cummins is named in the Full Forward Line. The Team will be captained by Paul Conroy.
The Team in Full is: In Goal, Brian O'Donoghue, The Full Back Line is Johnny Duane, Finian Hanley and Cathal Sweeney. The Half Back Line is Liam Silke, Gary O'Donnell and Sean Denvir. In Midfield are Fiontan O'Curroin and Paul Conroy who captains the team. The Half Forward Line is Gary Sice, Shane Walsh and Michael Lundy and the Full Forward Line is Peadar Og O'Griofa, Patrick Sweeney and Danny Cummins.
The Subs on Sunday will be: Tom Healy, Gareth Bradshaw, Ian Burke, Damien Comer, Adrian Varley, Tom Flynn, Paul Varley, Eddie Hoare, Declan Coyne, Michael Martin, Paddy Naughton, Conor Healy and Tom Fahy.
Wouldn't be too confident of O'Donoghue in goal but the rest is as expected really, if Bradshaw was fit Denvir would probably be on the bench.
Brian O'Donoghue
Johnny Duane
Finian Hanley
Cathal Sweeney
Liam Silke
Gary O'Donnell
Sean Denvir
Fiontán Ó Curraoin
Paul Conroy (Capt)
Gary Sice
Shane Walsh
Michael Lundy
Peadar Óg O'Gríofa
Patrick Sweeney
Danny Cummins
Subs
Tom Healy
Gareth Bradshaw
Ian Burke
Damien Comer
Adrian Varley
Tom Flynn
Paul Varley
Eddie Hoare
Declan Coyne
Michael Martin
Paddy Naughton
Conor Healy
Tom Fahy
New York Team named
Jaroslav Halak, New York Islanders
Darrelle Revis, New York Jets
Calvin Pace, New York Jets
Prince Amukamara, New York Giants
Antonio Cromartie, New York Giants
Joe Johnson, Brooklyn Nets
Josh Bailey, New York Islanders
Deron Williams, Brooklyn Nets
Ruben Randle, New York Giants
Odell Beckham, New York Giants
Derick Brassard, New York Rangers
Eric Decker, New York Jets
Stevan Ridley, New York Jets
Brook Lopez, Brooklyn Nets
Nick Folk, New York Jets
Big call leaving Carmello on the bench.
f**ker never trained and is poison in the dressing room. Off the panel apparently. A big story in the Post next week.
Is that the same Prince Amukamara that was on the Longford minor panel a few years back?
Yeah. He went off to New York on the buildings. He's a foreman carpenter in Yonkers, and the hoor doesn't know one end of a hammer from the other.
Question for Seafoid or any of the other Galway lads. How many different goalkeepers have Galway used so far this year? It seems to change very often....They have named a strong team there with also plenty of talent on the bench. Nobody should dismiss their chances in Connacht this year.
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New York Team named
Jaroslav Halak, New York Islanders
Darrelle Revis, New York Jets
Calvin Pace, New York Jets
Prince Amukamara, New York Giants
Antonio Cromartie, New York Giants
Joe Johnson, Brooklyn Nets
Josh Bailey, New York Islanders
Deron Williams, Brooklyn Nets
Ruben Randle, New York Giants
Odell Beckham, New York Giants
Derick Brassard, New York Rangers
Eric Decker, New York Jets
Stevan Ridley, New York Jets
Brook Lopez, Brooklyn Nets
Nick Folk, New York Jets
Strong anti bias towards the Yankees there
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f**ker never trained and is poison in the dressing room. Off the panel apparently. A big story in the Post next week.
Too greedy, the Boll**ks wouldn't pass it to anyone.
A Roid would be too controversial, I believe they tried Sabatthia at full forward, but he did his ACL last year, and is still not mobile enough. He makes Kilbride look fast.
Besides, the two of them might have gone on the beer after the game and miss the Yankees game in Boston that evening.
I heard that Sanchez was coming in from Philly to train, but he couldn't hold onto the ball. So he's also gone off the panel.
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Question for Seafoid or any of the other Galway lads. How many different goalkeepers have Galway used so far this year? It seems to change very often....They have named a strong team there with also plenty of talent on the bench. Nobody should dismiss their chances in Connacht this year.
That would be 4 Shrewdness, Magnus Breathnach, Brian O'Donoghue, Tom Healy and TJ Forde. Realistically its between Breathnach and Healy I think, Breathnach would probably be starting against NY but picked up a hand injury which required surgery so that ruled him out for this game.
Quote from: Shrewdness on April 29, 2015, 05:25:38 PM
Question for Seafoid or any of the other Galway lads. How many different goalkeepers have Galway used so far this year? It seems to change very often....They have named a strong team there with also plenty of talent on the bench. Nobody should dismiss their chances in Connacht this year.
I think Manus Breathnach was the most consistent keeper during the league. He's not even on the bench so I'm guessing he has some kind of injury. O'Donoghue actually let in two howlers against Laois in the league.
Where will the Galway/Leitrim match be played, Salthill or Carrick? Assuming that Galway win that game, they will have an advantage over Mayo in the semi final, from having had two championship games to fine tune everything, whereas Mayo will be coming in after just a few challenge games. Some people very impressed it seems, by Galway performance in New York. Galway's true worth as a team will be measured in Salthill in June, unless Leitrim have anything to say about it.
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Where will the Galway/Leitrim match be played, Salthill or Carrick? Assuming that Galway win that game, they will have an advantage over Mayo in the semi final, from having had two championship games to fine tune everything, whereas Mayo will be coming in after just a few challenge games. Some people very impressed it seems, by Galway performance in New York. Galway's true worth as a team will be measured in Salthill in June, unless Leitrim have anything to say about it.
Carrick.
Anyone impressed by how anyone plays against New York needs to be committed to the loony bin.
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Quote from: Shrewdness on April 29, 2015, 05:25:38 PM
Question for Seafoid or any of the other Galway lads. How many different goalkeepers have Galway used so far this year? It seems to change very often....They have named a strong team there with also plenty of talent on the bench. Nobody should dismiss their chances in Connacht this year.
That would be 4 Shrewdness, Magnus Breathnach, Brian O'Donoghue, Tom Healy and TJ Forde. Realistically its between Breathnach and Healy I think, Breathnach would probably be starting against NY but picked up a hand injury which required surgery so that ruled him out for this game.
GK is a problem area for Galway. Forwards less so.
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Anyone impressed by how anyone plays against New York needs to be committed to the loony bin.
100% it has no relevance at all for future games.
Leitrim beat NY by 24 points two years ago sure before succumbing to London subsequently.
It's all about getting the win and not picking up injuries.
We have the makings of a decent front 8 but from 1-7 we are nowhere near good enough unfortunately.
And then there were 6 left in a five county province.
What dates are the other games.
London v Ros ? Leitrim v Galway? Sligo v lon/Ros ?
Quote from: Shrewdness on May 04, 2015, 12:02:14 PM
Where will the Galway/Leitrim match be played, Salthill or Carrick? Assuming that Galway win that game, they will have an advantage over Mayo in the semi final, from having had two championship games to fine tune everything, whereas Mayo will be coming in after just a few challenge games. Some people very impressed it seems, by Galway performance in New York. Galway's true worth as a team will be measured in Salthill in June, unless Leitrim have anything to say about it.
That's my worry too Shrewdness. And to top it all off, the Mayo players have one competitive club game in the run-up to the Galway game between now and then. I know there's risks of injuries, but there's taking the biscuit as well.
https://soundcloud.com/thesunseekers/roscommon-people We now have a song :P
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https://soundcloud.com/thesunseekers/roscommon-people We now have a song :P
..but.. Jimmy Murray never played in Hyde Park.. it opened when he was 54..
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https://soundcloud.com/thesunseekers/roscommon-people We now have a song :P
Ye will have nothing left to organise if ye actually win something if ye're not careful
Quote from: The Black Mamba on May 05, 2015, 12:43:47 PM
https://soundcloud.com/thesunseekers/roscommon-people We now have a song :P
....between the bus and now the song,shur there'll be no stthoppin the mighty 'sthhealers!
That's a great song, really catchy , listened to it twice . Hope ye have booked the city west for sept .
There will be a full programme of Club Championship action in Roscommon next weekend, just 2 weeks before the London match in Ruislip. No doubt. John Evans will be dreading the sound of the phone all weekend, in case it's news of injuries.
Betting for the 2015 Connacht senior championship has been the liveliest by far .
Mayo starting at 8/13 when the odds first came out , went 8/11, 5/6 and are now into evens . Of course most of us know why this is and it has nothing to do with league form . If they don't sort out the infighting soon it could become very public what is going on and it is going to be embarrassing .
My genuine advice is to lump on laying Mayo , we do not have a hope of retaining Nestor at this stage bar some sort of a miracle from Knock type thing.
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Betting for the 2015 Connacht senior championship has been the liveliest by far .
Mayo starting at 8/13 when the odds first came out , went 8/11, 5/6 and are now into evens . Of course most of us know why this is and it has nothing to do with league form . If they don't sort out the infighting soon it could become very public what is going on and it is going to be embarrassing .
My genuine advice is to lump on laying Mayo , we do not have a hope of retaining Nestor at this stage bar some sort of a miracle from Knock type thing.
;)
A lot of rumours about infighting in the Mayo camp, but nobody prepared to put any flesh on the bones and give even one example of what the problem. So it's safer to take these rumours with a pinch of salt, and assume that Mayo are a united unit in the drive for five.
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A lot of rumours about infighting in the Mayo camp, but nobody prepared to put any flesh on the bones and give even one example of what the problem. So it's safer to take these rumours with a pinch of salt, and assume that Mayo are a united unit in the drive for five.
Well in all fairness shrewdness anybody that knows the particulars are not going to share it on an Internet forum .
All as I can tell you is the latest bust up was between pateen and AOS today over the marriage referendum . Pateen called him " a fook in queer" for supporting the yes side and all hell broke loose . No serious damage but pateen is staying castlebar General for overnight observation . My guess is if they do a brain scan he could be in there till the championship finishes and this could all work out for Mayo in the end.
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Quote from: Shrewdness on May 06, 2015, 08:48:38 PM
A lot of rumours about infighting in the Mayo camp, but nobody prepared to put any flesh on the bones and give even one example of what the problem. So it's safer to take these rumours with a pinch of salt, and assume that Mayo are a united unit in the drive for five.
Well in all fairness shrewdness anybody that knows the particulars are not going to share it on an Internet forum .
All as I can tell you is the latest bust up was between pateen and AOS today over the marriage referendum . Pateen called him " a fook in queer" for supporting the yes side and all hell broke loose . No serious damage but pateen is staying castlebar General for overnight observation . My guess is if they do a brain scan he could be in there till the championship finishes and this could all work out for Mayo in the end.
I know I shouldn't but... ;D
Connelly saying tonight Cillian doubtful for Galway game , two o sheas on the treatment table along with turbo Tom and Mickey c .
Connelly in the same short article creams himself over the Roscommon forward line.
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Connelly saying tonight Cillian doubtful for Galway game , two o sheas on the treatment table along with turbo Tom and Mickey c .
Connelly in the same short article creams himself over the Roscommon forward line.
Why is he talking about a team that has to win two games to even play Mayo/Galway. In fairness Senan has a fine beard.
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Quote from: larryin89 on May 07, 2015, 09:35:08 PM
Connelly saying tonight Cillian doubtful for Galway game , two o sheas on the treatment table along with turbo Tom and Mickey c .
Connelly in the same short article creams himself over the Roscommon forward line.
Why is he talking about a team that has to win two games to even play Mayo/Galway. In fairness Senan has a fine beard.
It's the buzz word in the gaa world syferus, ye should embrace this period lad . It pains me believe me sir but you're lot might go and do the business in the near future .
Kilbride is good but has failed so far in the bigger scheme of things , the new kids on the block have an air of confidence about them , still have to go on now and prove it on the bigger stage but I'm givin in to the general consensus now I've fought it long enough . Roscommon are the team .
Quote from: larryin89 on May 07, 2015, 09:35:08 PM
Connelly saying tonight Cillian doubtful for Galway game , two o sheas on the treatment table along with turbo Tom and Mickey c .
Connelly in the same short article creams himself over the Roscommon forward line.
Not to mention Barrett. It's not looking good unfortunately.
You'd hardly know there was a game on this weekend in the Connacht championship at all.
Without the prospect of much of a contest it's hard to see where any large interest in the match Sunday will come from.
Is there any hope Leitrim can spring a shock? If Galway decide to perform like they did at home to Cavan and Laois in the league then maybe but it's hard to see a Leitrim win.
Minus Emyln Mulligan and only winning 3 out of 7 games in Division 4 suggests it's very unlikely, although to be fair those three Leitrim wins all came in their final games so they did finish strongly.
Asking people who they thought would win Connacht and a surprising number said Ros. Momentum is the thing but can they keep it going ?
I was in Sheridans in Milltown the other day and there was paraphenalia from 2001 on the wall. That must inspire young lads as well.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 11, 2015, 11:31:29 PM
You'd hardly know there was a game on this weekend in the Connacht championship at all.
Yerra, the weather is too bad at the minute. We might be in better humour towards the weekend.
Kevin Higgins dislocated his shoulder (if word is to be believed) in the club championship. Out 6-8 weeks. Not much cover at midfield.
Quote from: Syferus on May 12, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
Kevin Higgins dislocated his shoulder (if word is to be believed) in the club championship. Out 6-8 weeks. Not much cover at midfield.
In fairness now syf sure isn't it all about August weekend sure there's nothing in the west to even give Ye a game this year.
Is Cillian O Connor suspended for the first championship game because of his sending off in the all-ire semi replay against kerry, it is my understanding that a suspension carries to the next championship game but maybe I am wrong, does anyone know the situation.
Leitrim will give it 100% on Sunday but will fall short, they are a plucky county and not to be taken for granted, should be a good workout for Galway, Carrick is always a tricky assignment.
Best of luck to all teams in this years Connacht championship and hope all go injury free, may the best team win, will be fun, really looking forward to it.
Quote from: giveballaghback on May 12, 2015, 07:00:45 PM
Is Cillian O Connor suspended for the first championship game because of his sending off in the all-ire semi replay against kerry, it is my understanding that a suspension carries to the next championship game but maybe I am wrong, does anyone know the situation.
Leitrim will give it 100% on Sunday but will fall short, they are a plucky county and not to be taken for granted, should be a good workout for Galway, Carrick is always a tricky assignment.
Best of luck to all teams in this years Connacht championship and hope all go injury free, may the best team win, will be fun, really looking forward to it.
I believe his suspension was carried forward to the first league game vs Kerry.
Thanks blackmamba, glad he wont miss game, if Galway get past Leitrim should be a cracker.
Quote from: giveballaghback on May 12, 2015, 07:29:37 PM
Thanks blackmamba, glad he wont miss game, if Galway get past Leitrim should be a cracker.
He's a doubt for that game anyways.
Ye naive guys and girls. Follow the pattern. Rossies will win as its inevitable.
Quote from: gibbs32 on May 12, 2015, 11:55:32 PM
Ye naive guys and girls. Follow the pattern. Rossies will win as its inevitable.
Although the rosssies are confident , none are going on like you , I suspect you are indeed a troll now .
Getting back on topic. I see Kevin Walsh is starting to play silly beggars on Mayo even though he's not even beaten Leitrim yet.
Senan Kilbride has been announced as the GAA Player of the Month for April. Not bad going for Sean's son, eh Lar Naparka?
Galway team named for Sunday:
1. Brian Donoghue
2. Johnny Duane
3. Finian Hanley
4. Cathal Sweeney
5. Liam Silke
6. Gary O'Donnell
7. Sean Denvir
8 Fiontan Ó Curraoin
9. Paul Conroy
10. Gary Sice
11. Shane Walsh
12. Micheál Lundy
13. Peadar ó Griofa
14. Damien Comer
15. Danny Cummins
Surprised to see Donoghue in goal seeing as he played for the junior team last week, the goalkeeping musical chairs continues!
He wouldn't change the keeper for Sligo no matter what when he managed us!
Might drop in to Páirc Sheáin Sunday if the day is decent.
Galway by 8 pulling up I fear.
O Donoghue would have been playing in goal against NY but for illness.
Goalkeeper is a big weakness in this squad
Quote from: Syferus on May 13, 2015, 01:09:06 PM
Senan Kilbride has been announced as the GAA Player of the Month for April. Not bad going for Sean's son, eh Lar Naparka?
It is indeed, syf and if he's half as good as his father, he'll be some man to have on your side, any side.
I always felt he was holding something back and not playing to the full limits of his ability, if you can follow me. Aye, it could be an interesting year for Connacht football.
(Bejaysus, if Creggar turns it on as well, there will be no stopping the mighty Rossies at all, at all.)
I think we have a good chance against Roscommon, they have been blown by all and sundry and I really think they are nowhere near the team they/others believe them to be. Sligo had a strong end to the league and got some good results at the close of the league so hopefully they can bring that with them. My one worry would be around the middle of the pitch, we have probably the smallest team size wise in the country and if Roscommon line Shine and Kilbride in the full forward line we would have problems there as we don't really have a good defender apart from McDonnell who is still learning his trade there. The two young lads did well at midfield towards the end but they are not midfielders by trade and I think in the heat of the championship this will become apparent.
The other options are very uninspiring, Gilmartin has had his chances and not really done much with them. Is Kilcullen still on the panel, I don't think he is county level? How is Tony Taylor doing these days, any chance he may return to the county fold? Another player who had his chances and didn't really grasp them but always felt he was our best option there which probably says something about our midfield in recent years! The team I would go with
Devaney
Donovan McDonnell Martyn
Cawley Egan Flanagan
Hughes Muprhy Breheny
Ewing Breheny Davey
Marren Kelly
The half back lines and half forward lines are really lacking in physicality but sadly that's the best we've got.
They have no Cake or Francie or Frankie or Seamie to lead the lines in fairness..
Funny you bring that up here after I sent you running for the hills in the other thread.
Quote from: sligoman on May 14, 2015, 09:31:08 PM
Funny you bring that up here after I sent you running for the hills in the other thread.
Maybe I just didn't want to involve myself in the absurdity.
Sligoman, was chatting to James kilcullen a few weeks ago and he's going to be out for a good while I'm afraid .
Welcome Sligoman - I think you'll have a bit of fun here.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 14, 2015, 10:42:55 PM
Welcome Sligoman - I think you'll have a bit of fun here.
Jaysus - just read back over your posts on another thread! You're well stuck in already, fair play!
So it's Shligo v Galway or Mayowestros in the CF then.
I suppose it will save us a tripeen to Salthill or th'other place this year anyway.
Quote from: Syferus on May 14, 2015, 09:35:46 PM
Quote from: sligoman on May 14, 2015, 09:31:08 PM
Funny you bring that up here after I sent you running for the hills in the other thread.
Maybe I just didn't want to involve myself in the absurdity.
And exactly how are you doing this;by reigniting and expanding on it with the man you rantingly claimed to several posters did not infact exist !Come on man,right the boat and find the breeze.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
Galway by 8
Got that one right anyway.
A limited Laythrum put it up to them but apart from 1st 10 minutes never looked like they could do any more than keep the score down.
Mind you if they had forwards.......
The great International Connacht Championship continues on Sunday next in Ruislep.
Will be a day of mixed feelings for Paul C and Alan O' Hara.
Many heading across?
Only in Connacht, where all things are run by Prentlogic, could one county play 3 games in a championship before one of the other counties has played one. It's a good job there are only 5+2 counties - imagine if there were 11 the mess that there would be!
Absolute farce of a schedule. Galway/Leitrim should be on 31st May and Ros/Sligo 13 the June.
Anyone know who or when decided NY/Galway was designated as a Preliminary Round.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2015, 10:00:55 AM
The great International Connacht Championship continues on Sunday next in Ruislep.
Will be a day of mixed feelings for Paul C and Alan O' Hara.
Many heading across?
My Roscommon born cousin is.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2015, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2015, 10:00:55 AM
The great International Connacht Championship continues on Sunday next in Ruislep.
Will be a day of mixed feelings for Paul C and Alan O' Hara.
Many heading across?
My Roscommon born cousin is.
You've got Roscommon in the blood so Farr!
Good interview with Gay Sheerin: http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/2105151053-sheerin-says-rossies-are-right-to-aim-for-the-top/
Roscommon team to face London
1. Darren O'Malley (Michael Glaveys)
2. Seán McDermott (Western Gaels)
3. Niall Carty (C) (Padraig Pearses)
4. Neil Collins (Castlerea St. Kevins)
5. Donal Ward (Kilmacud Crokes)
6. Niall Daly (Padraig Pearses)
7. Ciarán Cafferky (Western Gaels)
8. Mark Healy (Roscommon Gaels)
9. Cathal Shine (Clann na nGael)
10. Enda Smith (Boyle)
11. Donie Shine (Clann na nGael)
12. Ciaráin Murtagh (St. Faithleachs)
13. Diarmuid Murtagh (St. Faithleachs)
14. Senan Kilbride (St. Brigids)
15. Cathal Cregg (Western Gaels)
Great to see both Donals fit to start, both at key positions for us. If they're closing in on full fitness they will be a big addition. Massive chance for young Healy too.
Donie Shine, will he live up to his true potential at #11?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2015, 10:39:57 PM
Donie Shine, will he live up to his true potential at #11?
Well you know the saying, 8th season lucky!
Interesting choices in a few spots.
Would have had Stackeen in place of Ward myself.
I presume Conor Daly missing out at 12 as JE doesn't see a need to shore up the defence v London and is going with 6 forwards in the forwards( if ye know what I mane).
Quote from: Rossfan on May 21, 2015, 11:35:55 PM
Interesting choices in a few spots.
Would have had Stackeen in place of Ward myself.
I presume Conor Daly missing out at 12 as JE doesn't see a need to shore up the defence v London and is going with 6 forwards in the forwards( if ye know what I mane).
Who knows what team will start though. Conoreen was the best player on the field in Mullingar and can score better than many of the forwards. Defending might be the weakest part of his game..
Donie's played more time at 11 than 14 since Evans took over Farr. He came on against Meath at 11 in the league but was clearly not fit enough for the job only coming back from his injury. I have to assume he's way closer to 100% if he's actually starts there on Sunday.
Ye should be safe enough agin London with 3 nearly Mayo's in the starting lineup.
The London team looks a lot weaker than in recent years with some of their better players like Geraghty, Dunleavy, Gaughan, McGoldrick, and Hannon no longer involved. Roscommon -10 looks a good bet
I'd agree with Mano, looks on paper the weakest looking London team in a few years. Roscommon -11 is 5/4, looks a decent bet for a team who's got goals in them.
Quote from: Mano on May 22, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
The London team looks a lot weaker than in recent years with some of their better players like Geraghty, Dunleavy, Gaughan, McGoldrick, and Hannon no longer involved. Roscommon -10 looks a good bet
Is that the Sligo man Padraig McGoldrick who missed a penalty and got himself sent off against Sligo two years ago?
Roscommon should have comfortable win because they have picked a strong team,seem fully focused and are in good form.
Ros 0-06 London 0-02 after 19 minutes. Three from young Endaeen.
Roscommon 1-12 London 0-06 early second half. Ciaran Murtagh with goals in back-to-back games now.
Game has become a farce at this stage. No intensity.
Willie - "More royalty comming to Sligo next month.."
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 04:20:43 PM
Game has become a farce at this stage. No intensity.
Willie - "More royalty comming to Sligo next month.."
These ones will be walking into an ambush.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 24, 2015, 04:21:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 04:20:43 PM
Game has become a farce at this stage. No intensity.
Willie - "More royalty comming to Sligo next month.."
These ones will be walking into an ambush.
Are you kidding me. We took London seriously and had them finished in 15 minutes. That London put up little resistence isn't our fault. It just devolved into a challenge match in the second half. We won't be going to Sligo for a back rub.
Roscommon 1-14 London 0-10 FT.
We totally checked out after we got the goal that pretty much ended the game. That second half performance will hopefully be useful to Evans to give the players bollixing and get them in the right mindset for the real start to the campaign in Sligo. That one will be a completely different level to this game.
Professional job done. We were not even in second gear.well done lads.roll on sligo. We should win by 4-5
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Professional job done. We were not even in second gear.well done lads.roll on sligo. We should win by 4-5
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Go away and have a think about what you have just said like a good lad.
Quote from: gibbs32 on May 24, 2015, 07:57:53 PM
Professional job done. We were not even in second gear.well done lads.roll on sligo. We should win by 4-5
Goals or points?
Connacht champions elect in second gear , just enjoying the trip. Sligo haven't a hope and Mayo v Galway is to see who gets the runners up medals. ( that's what I'm told anyway)
Good session in London for the supporters who will be having a gay ol time of it.
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 04:34:00 PM
Roscommon 1-14 London 0-10 FT.
We totally checked out after we got the goal that pretty much ended the game. That second half performance will hopefully be useful to Evans to give the players bollixing and get them in the right mindset for the real start to the campaign in Sligo. That one will be a completely different level to this game.
Out of 1.14 I assume the player of his generation according to your analysis Cregger scored at least half of that, oh wait.......never mind......he must be resting himself ahead of D day, first Sunday in january 2016 in fbd. Looks like the rossies are in for a short summer, worry not, you can just jump bandwagon then and support Mayo.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 24, 2015, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: gibbs32 on May 24, 2015, 07:57:53 PM
Professional job done. We were not even in second gear.well done lads.roll on sligo. We should win by 4-5
Goals or points?
I'm sure we'll hope to keep with them to half time and then go down to a respectable loss, maybe 15 points or so. Ara it'll be a good learning experience for some of the newer lads in our team, to see if they can in any way compete with these Roscommon titans.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 24, 2015, 10:25:20 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 24, 2015, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: gibbs32 on May 24, 2015, 07:57:53 PM
Professional job done. We were not even in second gear.well done lads.roll on sligo. We should win by 4-5
Goals or points?
I'm sure we'll hope to keep with them to half time and then go down to a respectable loss, maybe 15 points or so. Ara it'll be a good learning experience for some of the newer lads in our team, to see if they can in any way compete with these Roscommon titans.
It's going to be a bit hilarious if we actually do beat ye well after all yer faux-humbleness..
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 24, 2015, 10:25:20 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 24, 2015, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: gibbs32 on May 24, 2015, 07:57:53 PM
Professional job done. We were not even in second gear.well done lads.roll on sligo. We should win by 4-5
Goals or points?
I'm sure we'll hope to keep with them to half time and then go down to a respectable loss, maybe 15 points or so. Ara it'll be a good learning experience for some of the newer lads in our team, to see if they can in any way compete with these Roscommon titans.
It's going to be a bit hilarious if we actually do beat ye well after all yer faux-humbleness..
For you maybe. Whereas pretty much the rest of the board will be having a field day if it's a repeat of 1981, 87, 97 and 2007.
Which of course it won't, we know we're there just to try and somehow replicate the intensity and pace of the Roscommon panel training sessions.
Quote from: gibbs32 on May 24, 2015, 07:57:53 PM
Professional job done. We were not even in second gear.well done lads.roll on sligo. We should win by 4-5
Sez the buckeen/trolleen who had proclaimed us All-Ireland U21 champs and Ros CBS Hogan Cup Champs.
After the last 2 games a Sligo/Mayowestros Connacht Final is almost a certainty.
We were dire yesterday especially in the 2nd half once we scored the goal.
Then Evans started subbing any lad that was playing decent.
I'm afraid Syfín's 2 heroes were bad and disastrous respectively.
Midfield and half back again destroyed by Gottsche and Mulvey. Cootehall man Alan O'Hara skinned Collins early on but he fell away after a bad wide.
We scored 2 points to London's 3 in the last half hour as we slept the game out.
Hopefully the sight of Benbulben and a real Connacht game- as opposed to a big social day out- will smarten us up a bit.
To all the worried Rhus out there - fear not as our world domination won't be starting for another year at least.
What's the word in Mayo lads?
A lot of Mayo heads saying that this year it might be best to travel via the backdoor this year? Really don't buy that. In Ulster maybe but in Connacht you need to be winning Connacht to be pushing ahead for September.
Praise from a lad like Flag is a dubious honour.... :o
Quote from: ck on May 25, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
What's the word in Mayo lads?
A lot of Mayo heads saying that this year it might be best to travel via the backdoor this year? Really don't buy that. In Ulster maybe but in Connacht you need to be winning Connacht to be pushing ahead for September.
Cillian is back, county players were all mighty the weekend for their clubs, black cards and red cards galore . Flying they are ,rarin to go . Mayo will fookin steam roll Connacht and both Galway and Roscommon will throw out the usual shite about another year before they are ready .Then again what's another year for the Rosies when they're waiting 14 bloody years to just beat Mayo.
Quote from: ck on May 25, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
What's the word in Mayo lads?
A lot of Mayo heads saying that this year it might be best to travel via the backdoor this year? Really don't buy that. In Ulster maybe but in Connacht you need to be winning Connacht to be pushing ahead for September.
The biggest challengers to Mayo in Connacht have now been less than impressive against division four opposition.Mayo will unlikely find a top competitive game until the All Ireland quarter final against Ulster opposition and could be found wanting then.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 25, 2015, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: ck on May 25, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
What's the word in Mayo lads?
A lot of Mayo heads saying that this year it might be best to travel via the backdoor this year? Really don't buy that. In Ulster maybe but in Connacht you need to be winning Connacht to be pushing ahead for September.
The biggest challengers to Mayo in Connacht have now been less than impressive against division four opposition.Mayo will unlikely find a top competitive game until the All Ireland quarter final against Ulster opposition and could be found wanting then.
Agreed. Back in 2000 when we roasted London it's what set us up for a long hot summer.
This was a poor Roscommon performance yesterday. Of particular concern was the inept showing by most of the forwards.. Who would have thought, against the likes of London, that the combined talents of Donie Shine, Diarmuid Murtagh, Senan Kilbride and Cathal Cregg would only manage just one point from play between the four of them.. In the past we've seen Senan Kilbride fail to perform in the Championship. Yesterday seemed like a throwback to those days. As for Cathal Cregg, how is he keeping his starting place in this team. Yesterday was the fourth game in a row, imo, that Cregg has delivered a poor performance. We haven't much hope of beating Sligo if we're depending on the likes of him. Huge improvement needed for Sligo game.
Quote from: Shrewdness on May 25, 2015, 01:18:04 PM
This was a poor Roscommon performance yesterday. Of particular concern was the inept showing by most of the forwards.. Who would have thought, against the likes of London, that the combined talents of Donie Shine, Diarmuid Murtagh, Senan Kilbride and Cathal Cregg would only manage just one point from play between the four of them.. In the past we've seen Senan Kilbride fail to perform in the Championship. Yesterday seemed like a throwback to those days. As for Cathal Cregg, how is he keeping his starting place in this team. Yesterday was the fourth game in a row, imo, that Cregg has delivered a poor performance. We haven't much hope of beating Sligo if we're depending on the likes of him. Huge improvement needed for Sligo game.
Things were going fine up until Murtagh's goal that put us 1-12 and 0-06 and ended the game as any manner of a couple minutes into the second half. We just shutdown entirely after that. I would wonder if it will have any bearing at all on what happens in Sligo next month though.
Quote from: Shrewdness on May 25, 2015, 01:18:04 PM
This was a poor Roscommon performance yesterday. Of particular concern was the inept showing by most of the forwards.. Who would have thought, against the likes of London, that the combined talents of Donie Shine, Diarmuid Murtagh, Senan Kilbride and Cathal Cregg would only manage just one point from play between the four of them.. In the past we've seen Senan Kilbride fail to perform in the Championship. Yesterday seemed like a throwback to those days. As for Cathal Cregg, how is he keeping his starting place in this team. Yesterday was the fourth game in a row, imo, that Cregg has delivered a poor performance. We haven't much hope of beating Sligo if we're depending on the likes of him. Huge improvement needed for Sligo game.
Albeit you're more than likely attempting the aul beal Bocht routine . In all seriousness I'm not sure this Roscommon rise is all its cracked up to be , this talk from Evans and gay sherran lately about winning all Ireland's is totally crazy . Sligo game will be very interesting , you'd have to believe Roscommon are aiming to peak for Connacht final though so I wouldn't let these two games trick anyone , Evans has been jumping up and down shouting to his players since the FBD game , " we are better than Mayo and we will fuc ing prove it next July " and that is a fact sir . I just hope we get a crack at ye .
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on May 25, 2015, 01:18:04 PM
This was a poor Roscommon performance yesterday. Of particular concern was the inept showing by most of the forwards.. Who would have thought, against the likes of London, that the combined talents of Donie Shine, Diarmuid Murtagh, Senan Kilbride and Cathal Cregg would only manage just one point from play between the four of them.. In the past we've seen Senan Kilbride fail to perform in the Championship. Yesterday seemed like a throwback to those days. As for Cathal Cregg, how is he keeping his starting place in this team. Yesterday was the fourth game in a row, imo, that Cregg has delivered a poor performance. We haven't much hope of beating Sligo if we're depending on the likes of him. Huge improvement needed for Sligo game.
Things were going fine up until Murtagh's goal that put us 1-12 and 0-06 and ended the game as any manner of a couple minutes into the second half. We just shutdown entirely after that. I would wonder if it will have any bearing at all on what happens in Sligo next month though.
You can't even try to respond to the mans question regarding the poor forwards!! Well that's to be expected from you, roll on FBD 2016 when these lads will be shooting out the lights and you will be on here telling us all again what superstars they are, its all very predictable now.
Done Shine was poor yesterday while "Cregger" was terrible from start to finish.
Enda and C Murtagh were the only forwards to show any energy or urgency and got was it 1-6 between them.
I'd hope Senan and D Murtagh were just having one off lazy days but the Donie and Cathal continuing poor performances are a cause for concern.
I think 20 something jerseys might be the answer.
Midfield and half back remain major problems. Time for Carty at 6 with a FB line of Seànie, Collins and Murray.
Hope Kevin Higgins fit for Sligo but didn't look likely.
Cregger will come good.
Form is temporary, class is permanent.
Yes i got them two wrong but it was close. As for rest of my predictions to date. Fbd(win) hastings(win)u21 connaught(win) senior league 2 champions(win) promotion to division 1(win). Its not even june:)
Quote from: gibbs32 on May 25, 2015, 08:33:27 PM
Yes i got them two wrong but it was close. As for rest of my predictions to date. Fbd(win) hastings(win)u21 connaught(win) senior league 2 champions(win) promotion to division 1(win). Its not even june:)
And what are the rest of your predictions? As you say it's only June and the real stuff starts now.
Farren. My prdictions/results are donegal dublin kerry roscommon province.dublin donegal final. Dubs to win. Rossies to fall short in qt.
Quote from: gibbs32 on May 25, 2015, 08:33:27 PM
Yes i got them two wrong but it was close. As for rest of my predictions to date. Fbd(win) hastings(win)u21 connaught(win) senior league 2 champions(win) promotion to division 1(win). Its not even june:)
Where did you give these predictions? The FBD and Hastings cup was I think played before you registered here.
That buck is a rhubarb trolleen so pass no heed. ;)
Rossfan with custard in your mouth.
What about Sligo lads? Carew doing a decent job. Won't be far away!
Galway coming again but too early yet, Mayo on the slide, Rossies talking a good game and threatening but no action yet, Leitrim in qualifiers before they started, London waiting for the next economic crash in Ireland for their annual day out.
Connacht bit of a mess really but she's wide open!
We're just badly lacking in size. I believe we have as good as footballers as anyone else in Connacht right now but we just don't have the physicality for it. Look at the Galway game last year and the total wipe out round the middle of the field. My main worry about the Roscommon game is the size of their forward line. Cregg, Shine, Kilbride and Smith and I'd worry about the physicality in our backs to handle that.
I dread to think of what Mayo would do to us around the middle of the pitch.
Any news on injuries? Will we be without anyone since the league campaign? Any new additions?
I think the we will Carew go with a side like the following.
1. Devaney
2. Maye 3. McDonnell 4. Donovan
10. Ewing
5. Cawley 6. Egan 7. Flanagan
8. Gilmartin 9. C Breheny
14. Hughes 11. M Breheny 12. Murphy
13. Marren 15. Kelly
I dunno what players you've been watching if you think most of those four are overly physical. Cregg might be the most physical but he also the smallest of the four. Enda's tall but his game has always been more about pace than power. Donie and Cregg will have to be going well in training to make the starting lineup next month too.
They are all well over 6 ft. McDonnell would be the only back we have that is around that size. If Roscommon start launching big high balls in on that forward line then I think we are in bother.
Quote from: sligoman on May 27, 2015, 12:35:14 PM
They are all well over 6 ft. McDonnell would be the only back we have that is around that size. If Roscommon start launching big high balls in on that forward line then I think we are in bother.
Kilbride is the only one of the four likely to be in that position. Diarmuid Murtagh playing off him inside. Donie came on as a sub and took that role for a while in the league final but usually plays 11 when starting. Cregg just drifts between the HB and FF lines - Smith is an out-and-out wing forward. Cregg would be six foot if that.
If Evans has any sense he will start those four as it would expose a big weakness in our back line. You're being deliberately contrary here as it's not really up for discussion on who has the biggest and more physically imposing side. I would say Sligo have the smallest inter county side in the country and Roscommon should dominate the middle area and possession. This is where Carew is going to need to do his homework and come up with a strategy to minimise damage there.
I truly believe if we can match or come close to matching Roscommon in the middle area then we will win but that will be tough.
Quote from: sligoman on May 27, 2015, 01:02:25 PM
If Evans has any sense he will start those four as it would expose a big weakness in our back line. You're being deliberately contrary here as it's not really up for discussion on who has the biggest and more physically imposing side. I would say Sligo have the smallest inter county side in the country and Roscommon should dominate the middle area and possession. This is where Carew is going to need to do his homework and come up with a strategy to minimise damage there.
I truly believe if we can match or come close to matching Roscommon in the middle area then we will win but that will be tough.
Cop on. I never said they weren't bigger but your idea of what those palyers do is very different to what they actually do in games are a bit off. Evans is unlikely to go beyond the one big man one small man inside FF line he has relied on through thick and thin just to try and blugeon Sligo. Sligo should have problems with Kilbride because he's a quaility FF that has more than his size going for him. Both Donie and Cregg are being pushed hard for their spots and it won't surprise any Roscommon supporters if either don't start in Sligo.
I'd expect the two players you overlooked, the Murtaghs, to have as much influence on the game as anyone you named and likely more than a few of them will have.
Our midfield isn't in the shape to dominate anyone right now. I think we can certainly win without dominating the middle. Mainly because we've got this far without dominating the middle.
I didn't talk about what those players do, I said Roscommon have a set of big physical forwards who will have a physical advantage over our small back line. I'm much more worried on how we deal with size of Kilbride, Smith, Shine and Cregg than I am about the Murtaghs as I fully believe we have the players to mark them. Donovan has been one of the best man markers in the game over the past 7 or 8 years but he does struggle under the high ball. I'd imagine he will pick up Diarmud Murtagh and keep him very quiet from open play.
To validate Sligoman point compare Kelly and Kilbride. Both quality forwards, both well able to take a score. Which of the 2 is most likely to win primary possession in the full forward line with many defenders behind the ball. In 2010 both Marren and Kelly couldn't win any ball inside as they were well marshalled by their immediate opponents plus your half backs and forwards drifting back to cut out the space. Kilbride, Cregg, Shine have the size and physical presence to win ball kicked in to a packed defence. Add to that McDonnell is not a full back-he is a midfielder. He has been put back there to fill a problem position. What did Smith score on him in under 21's? I would put Martyn in full back and McDonnell out to his natural position.
Quote from: Mano on May 27, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
To validate Sligoman point compare Kelly and Kilbride. Both quality forwards, both well able to take a score. Which of the 2 is most likely to win primary possession in the full forward line with many defenders behind the ball. In 2010 both Marren and Kelly couldn't win any ball inside as they were well marshalled by their immediate opponents plus your half backs and forwards drifting back to cut out the space. Kilbride, Cregg, Shine have the size and physical presence to win ball kicked in to a packed defence. Add to that McDonnell is not a full back-he is a midfielder. He has been put back there to fill a problem position. What did Smith score on him in under 21's? I would put Martyn in full back and McDonnell out to his natural position.
You're not really comparing like with like there. Of course Kilbride is a bigger unit than Kelly. FF vs. tricky corner forward.
After what happened our U21s the last two years against Sligo and Tyrone in Mark I'd expect Sligo to try something simliar against many of the same forwards and to stay very compact and crowd out. Mightn't be much room for Kilbride to win ball if he's double or triple maked like he probably will be. The room will be the there for someone like the Murtaghs to step up if Sligo become fixated on stopping Kilbride.
I'd be happier with Donovan on Diarmuid Murtagh too, Ciaran is the brother that is really in form right now. Also remember Donovan and Cregg having an almighty battle in the Hyde last year in a meaningless last round league match at the Hyde after we'd confirmed promotion. The only two on the field still going at it hammer and thongs. Donovan seemed well able for Cregg that day. I'd have a lot of time for Donovan.
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2015, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Mano on May 27, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
To validate Sligoman point compare Kelly and Kilbride. Both quality forwards, both well able to take a score. Which of the 2 is most likely to win primary possession in the full forward line with many defenders behind the ball. In 2010 both Marren and Kelly couldn't win any ball inside as they were well marshalled by their immediate opponents plus your half backs and forwards drifting back to cut out the space. Kilbride, Cregg, Shine have the size and physical presence to win ball kicked in to a packed defence. Add to that McDonnell is not a full back-he is a midfielder. He has been put back there to fill a problem position. What did Smith score on him in under 21's? I would put Martyn in full back and McDonnell out to his natural position.
You're not really comparing like with like there. Of course Kilbride is a bitter unit than Kelly. FF vs. tricky corner forward.
But that's the point I am making Kelly, Marren, Murphy, Coen are all tricky corner forwards. We don't have the balance of tricky corner forward (Murtagh x2), target man (Shine, Kilbride) and grafters (Cregg). Sligo struggle against packed defences as they don't have a big physical forwards on the edge of the square like Roscommon have.
Quote from: Mano on May 27, 2015, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2015, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Mano on May 27, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
To validate Sligoman point compare Kelly and Kilbride. Both quality forwards, both well able to take a score. Which of the 2 is most likely to win primary possession in the full forward line with many defenders behind the ball. In 2010 both Marren and Kelly couldn't win any ball inside as they were well marshalled by their immediate opponents plus your half backs and forwards drifting back to cut out the space. Kilbride, Cregg, Shine have the size and physical presence to win ball kicked in to a packed defence. Add to that McDonnell is not a full back-he is a midfielder. He has been put back there to fill a problem position. What did Smith score on him in under 21's? I would put Martyn in full back and McDonnell out to his natural position.
You're not really comparing like with like there. Of course Kilbride is a bitter unit than Kelly. FF vs. tricky corner forward.
But that's the point I am making Kelly, Marren, Murphy, Coen are all tricky corner forwards. We don't have the balance of tricky corner forward (Murtagh x2), target man (Shine, Kilbride) and grafters (Cregg). Sligo struggle against packed defences as they don't have a big physical forwards on the edge of the square like Roscommon have.
This is it, aligned with the fact we also lack a good defender with a bit of stature and size to pick up the opposition's physical forwards. We haven't managed to replace McGuire yet.
Based on past selections, i fully expect Cregg to start against Sligo, but i wouldn't start him. The reality is that he has been a passenger in his last 4 games imo. For some reason, he's bang out of form. There won't be any room for passengers against Sligo..Donie Shine still looks a bit rusty as he works his way back from injury. For pure scoring potential, nobody should overlook the Murtagh's.
Quote from: sligoman on May 27, 2015, 11:54:26 AM
Any news on injuries? Will we be without anyone since the league campaign? Any new additions?
I think the we will Carew go with a side like the following.
1. Devaney
2. Maye 3. McDonnell 4. Donovan
10. Ewing
5. Cawley 6. Egan 7. Flanagan
8. Gilmartin 9. C Breheny
14. Hughes 11. M Breheny 12. Murphy
13. Marren 15. Kelly
Why would you think Gilmartin would be/should be playing? There was no evidence during the league to support his inclusion over the likes of Criostoir Davey or that he is a better midfield option than Murphy.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 28, 2015, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: sligoman on May 27, 2015, 11:54:26 AM
Any news on injuries? Will we be without anyone since the league campaign? Any new additions?
I think the we will Carew go with a side like the following.
1. Devaney
2. Maye 3. McDonnell 4. Donovan
10. Ewing
5. Cawley 6. Egan 7. Flanagan
8. Gilmartin 9. C Breheny
14. Hughes 11. M Breheny 12. Murphy
13. Marren 15. Kelly
Why would you think Gilmartin would be/should be playing? There was no evidence during the league to support his inclusion over the likes of Criostoir Davey or that he is a better midfield option than Murphy.
Murphy has to play but not at midfield - he is a scoring forward. You cannot put Murphy and Brehony in midfield up against Shine and Higgins (if fit). It may have worked in division 3 against the likes of Louth and the Armagh second string but a promoted Division 1 team is different altogether. We have to have some height and physicality in midfield to compete for kickouts. Personally I would put McDonnell into midfield. Otherwise we better have an excellent kickout strategy in place.
Higgins might be fit for 20 minutes in the second half if we are really lucky / extremely reckless. Ian Kilbride, a HB, paired Shine in Ruslip as another of our midfielders, Mark Healy, was injured for the London game as well. Shine is is good form but he needs someone to take the pressure off him.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 28, 2015, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: sligoman on May 27, 2015, 11:54:26 AM
Any news on injuries? Will we be without anyone since the league campaign? Any new additions?
I think the we will Carew go with a side like the following.
1. Devaney
2. Maye 3. McDonnell 4. Donovan
10. Ewing
5. Cawley 6. Egan 7. Flanagan
8. Gilmartin 9. C Breheny
14. Hughes 11. M Breheny 12. Murphy
13. Marren 15. Kelly
Why would you think Gilmartin would be/should be playing? There was no evidence during the league to support his inclusion over the likes of Criostoir Davey or that he is a better midfield option than Murphy.
Think he offers a bit more size and presence around the middle area which we lack. If Davey were to start that would likely mean 4 Championship debutants in the starting team with Maye, Flanagan, Breheny and Davey as well as inexperienced players like Murphy and McDonnell in unfamiliar positions which I think Carew might be a but reticent to do at this stage.
Johnny Martyn mustn't be far away for a spot?
I think the day of the giant midfielder is gone lads. Loads of big men didn't catch much ball off Breheny and Murf in the league. Murf is an all round footballer, the more he is on the ball the better. No point having lads out the field who can't play the ball in even if they get it. We've had enough of that over the years. It beggars belief that the suggestion is to go to an untried or previously failed option over an option that has worked, albeit at a lower level. :'(
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 29, 2015, 12:13:43 AM
Johnny Martyn mustn't be far away for a spot?
I think the day of the giant midfielder is gone lads. Loads of big men didn't catch much ball off Breheny and Murf in the league. Murf is an all round footballer, the more he is on the ball the better. No point having lads out the field who can't play the ball in even if they get it. We've had enough of that over the years. It beggars belief that the suggestion is to go to an untried or previously failed option over an option that has worked, albeit at a lower level. :'(
Agree that having Murphy and Brehony in midfield together gives us extra mobility, scoring power and creativity. However if these 2 lads start at midfield we won't have the possession to use those attributes in attack. Disagree strongly with the giant midfielder argument - O'Currain and Flynn destroyed us last year in midfield. Barry Moran and Aidan O Shea did likewise in Connaught final 2012. These are a different calibre of midfielder than the what we faced in Division 3. Our other options in this area are not the greatest but one of Gilmartin, McDonnell or McManus must start against Roscommon to try and get some possession.
Events this morning put things into perspective.
Played against Mickey on numerous occasions in the late 90's. He was a tough tackling, tenacious corner back. Played for Sligo senior football team for a number of years and was captain in 1996. Unfortunately injury ruled him out of playing in the Connaught final.
Mickey Galvin RIP
How many of a panel do ye have up there in Sligo, its taking ye a month to pick that team that more or less picks itself, if ye hang on 3 more weeks ye will know what the team is.
Quote from: Mano on May 29, 2015, 01:28:00 PM
Events this morning put things into perspective.
Played against Mickey on numerous occasions in the late 90's. He was a tough tackling, tenacious corner back. Played for Sligo senior football team for a number of years and was captain in 1996. Unfortunately injury ruled him out of playing in the Connaught final.
Mickey Galvin RIP
Only saw this post now but heard the shocking news Friday. I didn't know him well or anything but I also would have played against him a few times and he was a good friend to a lot of mates of mine. Extremely sad news. RIP.
Saw what happened to Galvin there on the news. Absolutely shocking waste of life, the Gardai have blood on their hands.. RIP.
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
Saw what happened to Galvin there on the news. Absolutely shocking waste of life, the Gardai have blood on their hands.. RIP.
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Quote from: mayo.mick on June 05, 2015, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
Saw what happened to Galvin there on the news. Absolutely shocking waste of life, the Gardai have blood on their hands.. RIP.
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http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/garda-who-took-his-own-life-didnt-know-he-had-been-cleared-by-gsoc-31271280.html
Which Ros player is a prison guard? Hopefully it's nothing serious
http://www.thejournal.ie/attack-cloverhill-orison-officers-2148191-Jun2015/?utm_source=twitter_self (http://www.thejournal.ie/attack-cloverhill-orison-officers-2148191-Jun2015/?utm_source=twitter_self)
Donal ward is the prison officer. Wing back.
:-\
It's a wonder any **** would be stupid enough to take him on given he's an AI-winning boxer on top of everything else. Hopefully Donal will be ok. The lad has had bad luck the last few years to say the least.
Quote from: mayo.mick on June 05, 2015, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
Saw what happened to Galvin there on the news. Absolutely shocking waste of life, the Gardai have blood on their hands.. RIP.
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No offence mayo.mick (and I've been guilty on occasions in the past myself) but for those of us (many I suspect) who have the ignore function operational for certain posters quoting them means we can see their rubbish. I hope the idiot had the sense to edit that horseshit because as well as being as stupid as most of his posts it's downright offensive. Fools pardons only go so far.
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 08, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: mayo.mick on June 05, 2015, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
Saw what happened to Galvin there on the news. Absolutely shocking waste of life, the Gardai have blood on their hands.. RIP.
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No offence mayo.mick (and I've been guilty on occasions in the past myself) but for those of us (many I suspect) who have the ignore function operational for certain posters quoting them means we can see their rubbish. I hope the idiot had the sense to edit that horseshit because as well as being as stupid as most of his posts it's downright offensive. Fools pardons only go so far.
Shut your venomous little trap.
There was nothing offensive in that because it is factually correct, GSOC made a complete mess of the situation and a different outcome would have been likely different had they even informed Galvin of their findings in a timely manner. Indeed it's the prevailing opinion on the issue here. And that is to say Sligo, by the way.
This is not the place for getting into this but your pathetic comment needed a response regardless. You're taking out a childish personal vendetta over an issue that involved the needless death of someone, that's pretty damn low in my opinion. I rarely get personal but I'll make an exception for you - well done on making yourself look like a tool. I doubt it'll be the last time.
3 posts could do with being deleted Syf and Seànie.
You first Syf.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 09, 2015, 12:58:54 AM
3 posts could do with being deleted Syf and Seànie.
You first Syf.
I might have agreed with you if you said 2 instead of 3. Have you read about what happened? There was nothing controversial (and certainly nothing disrespectful to the man who died) in my first comment and it was a non-issue until Seanie decided to explode all over the thread. You didn't seem to mind much about it yourself until now..
Quote from: Syferus on June 08, 2015, 11:45:51 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 08, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: mayo.mick on June 05, 2015, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
Saw what happened to Galvin there on the news. Absolutely shocking waste of life, the Gardai have blood on their hands.. RIP.
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No offence mayo.mick (and I've been guilty on occasions in the past myself) but for those of us (many I suspect) who have the ignore function operational for certain posters quoting them means we can see their rubbish. I hope the idiot had the sense to edit that horseshit because as well as being as stupid as most of his posts it's downright offensive. Fools pardons only go so far.
Shut your venomous little trap.
There was nothing offensive in that because it is factually correct, GSOC made a complete mess of the situation and a different outcome would have been likely different had they even informed Galvin of their findings in a timely manner. Indeed it's the prevailing opinion on the issue here. And that is to say Sligo, by the way.
This is not the place for getting into this but your pathetic comment needed a response regardless. You're taking out a childish personal vendetta over an issue that involved the needless death of someone, that's pretty damn low in my opinion. I rarely get personal but I'll make an exception for you - well done on making yourself look like a tool. I doubt it'll be the last time.
Seriously?
This is a shocking story and my deepest sympathies go to his family, friends, club mates and the terrible loss to all of Sligo GAA.
Quote from: Syferus on June 09, 2015, 02:05:24 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 09, 2015, 12:58:54 AM
3 posts could do with being deleted Syf and Seànie.
You first Syf.
I might have agreed with you if you said 2 instead of 3. Have you read about what happened? There was nothing controversial (and certainly nothing disrespectful to the man who died) in my first comment and it was a non-issue until Seanie decided to explode all over the thread. You didn't seem to mind much about it yourself until now..
Uaireanta is binn béal ina thost.
Seo ceann de na huaireanta.
So, now it's a three horse race in Connacht. Not being smart about it, but Mayo must be short odds tonight to make it 5 in a row.. Due to their obsession with Sam, some people seem to be downplaying the significance of possibly winning 5 Connacht titles in a row. But, imo, any Mayo player who would win 5 Connacht medals in a row, should be proud of himself, if that's the way it turns out.. I presume the Connacht Final will definitely be in Castlebar. There seems to be a very low key build up to the Sligo v Roscommon match. Have never seen it as quiet in Ros a week before a Connacht Semi Final.
U aint that shrewd pal. Rossies will beat sligo by 8 and dumb and dumber by 3
We haven't a hope in Hell sadly :-\
PS shouldn't post while waiting for lift from licensed premises...
You haven't added the Connacht hurling title we won today to the list, Rossfan.
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2015, 02:49:08 AM
You haven't added the Connacht hurling title we won today to the list, Rossfan.
"We" won, oh I get it, you were supporting Roscommon yesterday. Back to supporting Mayo again in the senior game then drooling over the performances of Bear, Cillian and Andy as you fondly refer to them as as a faithful Mayo man.
Good draw for the Rossies.
(https://img.rasset.ie/000b405a-642.jpg)
Six in a row without breaking sweat . Sin e.
Nice draw for K-Mac's first season. Let's not make a hash of it this time.
Quote from: Syferus on October 15, 2015, 09:33:20 PM
Nice draw for K-Mac's first season. Let's not make a hash of it this time.
Where will ye play Galway in the final is that set for salthill in 16?
larryin89, the London v new york final will be played at a neutral venue, Rio, before the opening ceremony for the Olympics.
Quote from: larryin89 on October 15, 2015, 09:48:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 15, 2015, 09:33:20 PM
Nice draw for K-Mac's first season. Let's not make a hash of it this time.
Where will ye play Galway in the final is that set for salthill in 16?
We're due to visit the wind tunnel.
Galway are due a win against Mayo and 2016 in MacHale park could be their year. The other side of draw is a good draw for Leitrim,Sligo and Roscommon.
It'll be nice to have a run out in the Hyde before the Connacht final there this year.
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 16, 2015, 08:21:51 AM
It'll be nice to have a run out in the Hyde before the Connacht final there this year.
You'll have to sort that out with the builders ladeen. The Hyde is going to be closed for championship 2016.
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2015, 10:50:45 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 16, 2015, 08:21:51 AM
It'll be nice to have a run out in the Hyde before the Connacht final there this year.
You'll have to sort that out with the builders ladeen. The Hyde is going to be closed for championship 2016.
She'll hardly be ready to roll by then buck?
Haven't seen a finished plan yet, no doubt some clown will hold up the planning permission and if the Election is over we'll not be able to hook a " Parkykeev" grant.
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2015, 10:50:45 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 16, 2015, 08:21:51 AM
It'll be nice to have a run out in the Hyde before the Connacht final there this year.
You'll have to sort that out with the builders ladeen. The Hyde is going to be closed for championship 2016.
Where will the Sligo-Ros game be held, assuming Leitrim don't cause a major upset.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 16, 2015, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 16, 2015, 10:50:45 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 16, 2015, 08:21:51 AM
It'll be nice to have a run out in the Hyde before the Connacht final there this year.
You'll have to sort that out with the builders ladeen. The Hyde is going to be closed for championship 2016.
Where will the Sligo-Ros game be held, assuming Leitrim don't cause a major upset.
Ballaghaderreen should be able for it, although it would be a neutral venue for that tie.
We'll likely get a home game again so and then they'll get two in a row after this. I hope their youngsters aren't still scared of our tight pitch!