We await outcome of the replay in Markievicz to know who will be our opponents.
Meanwhile Leitrim attempt to win a Qualifier game while NY, London and Mayowestros await the 2011Championship. I know I shouldnt but ;D :D :) ;) :D ;D
I suppose we'd better turn up for the final and get this year's drubbing out of the way. :-\
I wouldn't bet against another draw next weekend so we could be while waiting, regardless if we get a good beating or not i think we have achieved what we set out to do (win two championship games & make the final) & it's great to be involved in a final for the first time since 2004 & the added bonus of another game in late July :o which should be a great experience for all the young lads
Rossfan brings his hatred for Mayo to another thread yet again. :-*
Just noting the fact thet ye're not in it this year ::)
Hopefully Ross4life we can give a good account of ourselves in the Final and the next game and the experience will bring on the likes of Domo,Ormsby,Keenan,Donie,O'Gara,Garvey and Higgins who can only get better by playing these kind of games.
You'd also hope that Claffey,Seanie Mac, Rogers, Finneran,Purcell,Cregger who have never played in a CF will also learn from it while the oul heads like Casey and Mannion will keep it all calm and relaxed on the day.
I'd rather wait until we know our opponents before discussing this game.
Well lets get it started.
How often do we get a Roscommon V Sligo Connacht Final.
Will it be red hot favourates Sligo, or will Roscommon call on tradition to swat them aside.
This is one of the best years for the underdog i can remember in a long long time! Congrats to Sligo taking out the big guns!
Does this mean we get our game in Castlebar?
Will Galway bate Mayo not this year......
After Sligo knocking out the kings of connacht do we stand any chance? sure we may as well turn up anyways
P.S anywhere but Mchale park for the Final it's your choice Sligo choose wisely :P
Would Marky Park not be big enough for this one? I'm sure Sligo would love to host a final there, this may be their chance?
Congrats on the win today by the way, it was easily deserved over the two games.
Hopefully Páirc Markiewicz. Had Sligo won in Salthill last weekend they might have opted to bring it there. If Connacht Council won't allow Markiewicz, Castlebar will surely come into the reckoning then.
It's confirmed as Mchale park Fcuk!!
The wide open spaces of McHale Park must suit Sligo. I reckon there will be a big crowd and Castlebar the finest Stadium in Connacht.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 03, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
The wide open spaces of McHale Park must suit Sligo. I reckon there will be a big crowd and Castlebar the finest Stadium in Connacht.
military style press box, blue & yellow seats hardly made it any better than salthill? & both Stadiums are a nightmare to get out of, Roscommon in a Connacht final at any grade guarantees a BIG crowd
Quote from: ross4life on July 03, 2010, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 03, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
The wide open spaces of McHale Park must suit Sligo. I reckon there will be a big crowd and Castlebar the finest Stadium in Connacht.
military style press box, blue & yellow seats hardly made it any better than salthill? & both Stadiums are a nightmare to get out of, Roscommon in a Connacht final at any grade guarantees a BIG crowd
Military style press box!!!!!!
Salthill is a rubbish stadium because of the crosswinds that come from the Galway Bay Corner up the hill and diagonaly across the pitch.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 03, 2010, 09:21:45 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 03, 2010, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 03, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
The wide open spaces of McHale Park must suit Sligo. I reckon there will be a big crowd and Castlebar the finest Stadium in Connacht.
military style press box, blue & yellow seats hardly made it any better than salthill? & both Stadiums are a nightmare to get out of, Roscommon in a Connacht final at any grade guarantees a BIG crowd
Military style press box!!!!!!
Salthill is a rubbish stadium because of the crosswinds that come from the Galway Bay Corner up the hill and diagonaly across the pitch.
Everybody knows about the Wind in Salthill but when it come's to Stadiums McHale is no better than Pearse park
Btw not always windy in Salthill i was at the Connacht final Mayo v Galway in 2005 there's wasn't even a breeze & it was 29c
Looking forward to it already.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2010, 10:48:05 PM
Looking forward to it already.
Ya Sligo just saved the county board a few quid ;D
Sligo's to lose. Injury/tiredness/complacency might have a bearing against them but they look too businesslike and focussed this season to let this one slip. Much better side than when they last won it in 2007.
Fergie has made satisfactory progress getting Ross to a Connacht Final. They wont have any pressure on them which may result in an improved competitive performance but that'll be the height of it I fear.
Last meeting between the sides
Sligo 0-20 Roscommon 0-13 was a league match back in April & last Championship match between the sides was Hyde park 2007 0-13 to 2-5 Sligo won
the last time a Connacht final in McHale park didn't involve Mayo was 1962 Roscommon 3-07 Galway 2-09
A Novel pairing and one not expected at the start of the year. First time either Mayo or Galway weren't in the final since 1947. Mayo and Galway contest the minor final on the same day. I'll be there to watch the minors, hard to know who to support?. I will probably go for the underdog Roscommon. Who will other Mayo/Galwegians be cheering for?
On form Sligo should do it. There have done the hard work beating the big two in Connacht. Judging from the various message boards The heads seem to be getting bigger and bigger in Sligo this could play into Roscommon hands. On another note nice to see some bit of use being made of McHale park, will there be a full house?
Quote from: ross4life on July 04, 2010, 04:10:17 PM
the last time a Connacht final in McHale park didn't involve Mayo was 1962 Roscommon 3-07 Galway 2-09
Maybe it was farsighted of the Mayo County Board, new Connacht kingpins Sligo to play in the Connacht Final for 5 years in-a-row, Mayo not to feature, all 5 played in McHale Park the obvious venue for Connacht Finals ;)
To be honest, i can't see us beating Sligo, and that's not smart arse talk. Not enough forwards in Ros scoring consistently .Much too dependent on Shine.I feel that centre half back and centre half forward are two unresolved positions. Neither Dineen or Garvey are up to it in those positions.
If there is a banana skin in it for Sligo, it could be complacency. The mood throughout Sligo may well be, that having already beaten Mayo and Galway, surely they aren't going to blow it against Roscommon.
Thoughts and expectation like that can bring their own pressures and mental burdens.
Can't see Kevin Walsh letting that happen though.
Already on this thread, someone mentioned Sligo beating Ros by 0-20 to 0-13 in the final League game in Markievicz Park.
It might be worth noting that Ros were without a lot of their championship team that day.
If i remember correctly, David Casey, Cathal Cregg and Karol Mannion were all injured , whilst Donie Shine, Kevin Higgins, , Paul Garvey and a few other panel members were rested as they had an All Ireland U-21 Semi Final the following weekend.
Sligo on the other hand were practically at full strength as they needed to win to ensure qualification for the Division 3 Final.
I think it's Sligo's final, but i don't expect Ros to go down without a fight, and it could be a lot closer than many people think.
Yes, Sligo beat Galway and Mayo. But how good are the current Galway and Mayo teams. Don't forget that Longford (Division 4) have also subsequently beaten Mayo, so maybe Sligo's win over Mayo could be very slightly devalued after that.
This is definitely the poorest Galway team of the last 13 or 14 years which should also be factored into any honest analysis.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not pouring cold water on Sligo's achievements in any way. They have been superb, and fully deserve their place in the final, and will justifiably start as favourites.
But they might do well to now forget about Galway and Mayo. Roscommon will be a different kind of challenge for them, where they must also cope with the tag of ''warm favourites''.
The final will be a new game, and nothing that happened against Mayo or Galway will count when the ball is thrown in at the start of the Connacht Final.
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 04, 2010, 06:51:56 PM
Already on this thread, someone mentioned Sligo beating Ros by 0-20 to 0-13 in the final League game in Markievicz Park.
It might be worth noting that Ros were without a lot of their championship team that day.
If i remember correctly, David Casey, Cathal Cregg and Karol Mannion were all injured , whilst Donie Shine, Kevin Higgins, , Paul Garvey and a few other panel members were rested as they had an All Ireland U-21 Semi Final the following weekend.
Someone ::) yes we were missing a lot of the Championship team, Mannion returned for his 1st match this year, Sean McDermott, Peter Domican,Cathal Dineen, Cathal Cregg,David Keenan & John Rogers are the others that played that day
I expect Garvey will be replaced by a fit again O Gara & Senan kilbride is back in training he should make the bench
Quote from: ross4life on July 04, 2010, 04:10:17 PM
the last time a Connacht final in McHale park didn't involve Mayo was 1962 Roscommon 3-07 Galway 2-09
That was the famous broken crossbar incident when Roscommon were 5 points down in the second half and not too long left when goalkeeper Aidan Brady pulled down the crossbar. When it was fixed a rampaging Gerry O'Malley inspired Ros to victory - with the broken crossbar being the turning point in the game. Castlebar was actually always a very lucky ground for Roscommon and when Mayo defeated Roscommon there in 1992, it was probably the first time most Mayo supporters saw their county overcome Roscommon in Castlebar. There had been two draws there in 89 and 91 (Duggan's amazing free kick), while Ros won there in 86. Incidentally, when Roscommon lost their great record in Castlebar, Enon Gavin actually broke the crossbar again, thirty years after Aidan Brady had pulled it down. Ros have not won a senior game there since.
Quote from: Turlough O Carolan on July 04, 2010, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 04, 2010, 04:10:17 PM
the last time a Connacht final in McHale park didn't involve Mayo was 1962 Roscommon 3-07 Galway 2-09
That was the famous broken crossbar incident when Roscommon were 5 points down in the second half and not too long left when goalkeeper Aidan Brady pulled down the crossbar. When it was fixed a rampaging Gerry O'Malley inspired Ros to victory - with the broken crossbar being the turning point in the game. Castlebar was actually always a very lucky ground for Roscommon and when Mayo defeated Roscommon there in 1992, it was probably the first time most Mayo supporters saw their county overcome Roscommon in Castlebar. There had been two draws there in 89 and 91 (Duggan's amazing free kick), while Ros won there in 86. Incidentally, when Roscommon lost their great record in Castlebar, Enon Gavin actually broke the crossbar again, thirty years after Aidan Brady had pulled it down. Ros have not won a senior game there since.
was there in 1991 and 1992 for that. imagine having a spare crossbar lying around the place!
Some good & bad memories in last two decades in McHale park for us rossies, i was there to witness the defeats to Mayo in 92,95, 99,02,04,09 & the defeat to Galway in the Quarter Final in 2001
i was right behind the goal when Derek Duggan scored that free against the wind hard to think it's 19 years ago :o & not forgetting the Connacht Minor final success in 2006 which was the platform to All Ireland glory (i was one of 200 or so rossie fan's that invaded the pitch that day) & that was our only win at Mchale park at any grade since 1986
Now it's Back to McHale Park again
From the time we ended Mayo's hopes of three Sams-in-a-row in the 1952 Connacht Final, McHale Park was a winning ground for us. I think it was newly developed at the time, Mayoites?
We then won Connachts there in ' 61 & ' 62 with wins over Galway, while we overcome Mayo again there in ' 72 & ' 79 [ Ros came through late on,as Joe McGrath had a stormer for the home side.]
Mayo eventually managed to gain some hope of turning the tables, by squeaking past us 0-9 to 0-7 in the 1983 semi-final, while the first time they actually beat us in a Connacht Final in McHale Park was in 1992, the day Tony Mac retired. I heard him saying once he absolutely loved playing in Castlebar, so successful a venue was it for him during his playing career. Perhaps it was just as well then that he hung up his boots once the fateful 'losing' day came!
Our minors did the biz over Mayo earlier that day, but sadly we didn't produce enough good minor teams in the years that followed & so, Castlebar is now seen by the younger supporters as being somewhat of a bad venue for us. Funny the way perceptions change from one generation to another. I always enjoyed going there - well '83 & '92 aside anyway before it all started going pear-shaped ;)
The minors of '06 didn't see it that way though, as they got back to winning ways against the old enemy there that famous year. Hopefully, along with all the hard work that's going into under-age development this past few years, that mentality can follow through to senior level once more and Castlebar can become a ground we look forward to playing in and being competitive in again.
We beat Sligo over in Mayo in the semi-finals of ' 61 & ' 62 as well btw, although those two games were played in Charlestown.
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 04, 2010, 06:51:56 PM
To be honest, i can't see us beating Sligo, and that's not smart arse talk. Not enough forwards in Ros scoring consistently .Much too dependent on Shine.I feel that centre half back and centre half forward are two unresolved positions. Neither Dineen or Garvey are up to it in those positions.
If there is a banana skin in it for Sligo, it could be complacency. The mood throughout Sligo may well be, that having already beaten Mayo and Galway, surely they aren't going to blow it against Roscommon.
Thoughts and expectation like that can bring their own pressures and mental burdens.
Can't see Kevin Walsh letting that happen though.
Already on this thread, someone mentioned Sligo beating Ros by 0-20 to 0-13 in the final League game in Markievicz Park.
It might be worth noting that Ros were without a lot of their championship team that day.
If i remember correctly, David Casey, Cathal Cregg and Karol Mannion were all injured , whilst Donie Shine, Kevin Higgins, , Paul Garvey and a few other panel members were rested as they had an All Ireland U-21 Semi Final the following weekend.
Sligo on the other hand were practically at full strength as they needed to win to ensure qualification for the Division 3 Final.
I think it's Sligo's final, but i don't expect Ros to go down without a fight, and it could be a lot closer than many people think.
Yes, Sligo beat Galway and Mayo. But how good are the current Galway and Mayo teams. Don't forget that Longford (Division 4) have also subsequently beaten Mayo, so maybe Sligo's win over Mayo could be very slightly devalued after that.
This is definitely the poorest Galway team of the last 13 or 14 years which should also be factored into any honest analysis.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not pouring cold water on Sligo's achievements in any way. They have been superb, and fully deserve their place in the final, and will justifiably start as favourites.
But they might do well to now forget about Galway and Mayo. Roscommon will be a different kind of challenge for them, where they must also cope with the tag of ''warm favourites''.
The final will be a new game, and nothing that happened against Mayo or Galway will count when the ball is thrown in at the start of the Connacht Final.
There's going to be no big heads in Sligo from the people that matter. This will take a good performance from us to win and we know if we're short of our best we will lose.
The signals from Walsh after the game were totally focussed. Let's leave them at it.
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 04, 2010, 04:13:06 PM
A Novel pairing and one not expected at the start of the year. First time either Mayo or Galway weren't in the final since 1947. Mayo and Galway contest the minor final on the same day. I'll be there to watch the minors, hard to know who to support?. I will probably go for the underdog Roscommon. Who will other Mayo/Galwegians be cheering for?
On form Sligo should do it. There have done the hard work beating the big two in Connacht. Judging from the various message boards The heads seem to be getting bigger and bigger in Sligo this could play into Roscommon hands. On another note nice to see some bit of use being made of McHale park, will there be a full house?
Don't give a damn. I'll enjoy it as a true neutral.
Quote from: neilthemac on July 04, 2010, 11:58:58 PM
Quote from: Turlough O Carolan on July 04, 2010, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 04, 2010, 04:10:17 PM
the last time a Connacht final in McHale park didn't involve Mayo was 1962 Roscommon 3-07 Galway 2-09
That was the famous broken crossbar incident when Roscommon were 5 points down in the second half and not too long left when goalkeeper Aidan Brady pulled down the crossbar. When it was fixed a rampaging Gerry O'Malley inspired Ros to victory - with the broken crossbar being the turning point in the game. Castlebar was actually always a very lucky ground for Roscommon and when Mayo defeated Roscommon there in 1992, it was probably the first time most Mayo supporters saw their county overcome Roscommon in Castlebar. There had been two draws there in 89 and 91 (Duggan's amazing free kick), while Ros won there in 86. Incidentally, when Roscommon lost their great record in Castlebar, Enon Gavin actually broke the crossbar again, thirty years after Aidan Brady had pulled it down. Ros have not won a senior game there since.
was there in 1991 and 1992 for that. imagine having a spare crossbar lying around the place!
Typical Rossies coming into Mayo and breaking our crossbars. You just couldn't watch them. I was also there the day Enon Gavin swung off the crossbar and brought it down. There was a spare crossbar on standby behind the goals, stored on top of the advertising hoardings. It only took about a minute or two to change the crossbar. It was noted that the crossbar was a bit rotten, and thats why a new one was on standby..
The good news for Rossies for next Sunday week, is that McHale Park now has steel crossbar's, so the can try and break them all they want. Knowing them shower though, they'll probably bring an anglegrinder with them...
Hoping tantastic doesnt get halled up before the judges need him to gee up our young lads
Donegal's Jimmy White has been appointed as the man in the middle for the Connacht final he also was the ref in the Sligo v Mayo this year
P.S i'm nearly sure the Mchale park crossbars are still wooden?
Edit 100% wooden
(http://www.connachtgaa.ie/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2824&g2_serialNumber=2)
Ross they make them rectangular shaped crossbars in steel now as well.
Quote from: ross4life on July 05, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Donegal's Jimmy White has been appointed as the man in the middle for the Connacht final he also was the ref in the Sligo v Mayo this year
P.S i'm nearly sure the Mchale park crossbars are still wooden?
Edit 100% wooden
(http://www.connachtgaa.ie/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2824&g2_serialNumber=2)
if anything like rossies last summer visit to mchale only need for one goalposts and change ends at halftime
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 05, 2010, 04:50:20 PM
Ross they make them rectangular shaped crossbars in steel now as well.
Well i was on the field in 2008 it was wooden then, the picture is from 2009 & i think i see a nail at the end?
Quote from: spuds on July 05, 2010, 04:59:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 05, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
if anything like rossies last summer visit to mchale only need for one goalposts and change ends at halftime
Same could be said about Mayo & there next visit to Croke park ;)
Quote from: ross4life on July 05, 2010, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 05, 2010, 04:50:20 PM
Ross they make them rectangular shaped crossbars in steel now as well.
Well i was on the field in 2008 it was wooden then, the picture is from 2009 & i think i see a nail at the end?
Quote from: spuds on July 05, 2010, 04:59:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 05, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
if anything like rossies last summer visit to mchale only need for one goalposts and change ends at halftime
Same could be said about Mayo & there next visit to Croke park ;)
Or a bolt.
Quote from: mjg on July 05, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
Hoping tantastic doesnt get halled up before the judges need him to gee up our young lads
Excellent point. Eamon is extremely popular in Ross ;)!
We love tannedmen ;D ;D
Quote from: ross4life on July 05, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Donegal's Jimmy White has been appointed as the man in the middle for the Connacht final he also was the ref in the Sligo v Mayo this year
P.S i'm nearly sure the Mchale park crossbars are still wooden?
Edit 100% wooden
(http://www.connachtgaa.ie/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2824&g2_serialNumber=2)
Jee's the Rossies are eyeing up the crossbar already.. I will have to have a word with the caretaker and make sure the crossbar is reinforced...
Quote from: ross matt on July 05, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: mjg on July 05, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
Hoping tantastic doesnt get halled up before the judges need him to gee up our young lads
Excellent point. Eamon is extremely popular in Ross ;)!
Tell us then why he is so unpopular in Roscommon. Would it have anything to do with a BBC GAA programme a few years ago by any chance?
Quote from: Mano on July 05, 2010, 11:44:31 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 05, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: mjg on July 05, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
Hoping tantastic doesnt get halled up before the judges need him to gee up our young lads
Excellent point. Eamon is extremely popular in Ross ;)!
Tell us then why he is so unpopular in Roscommon. Would it have anything to do with a BBC GAA programme a few years ago by any chance?
You referring to the show where he said "The Rossies will be bet and bet well" (previewing the 2003 AI quarterfinal)? Did'nt see it myself but lot of Rossies took exception to it at the time I believe as he appeared to be taking pleasure in the prediction. Personally would have no problem with him calling a match like he saw it. I remember him in the Hyde a few years back hitting David Casey (a good clean footballer) a slap in the stones off the ball right in front of a raging home crowd but the ref missed it. Himself and Shamy O'Neill have had plenty of "battles" but then again Shamy in no angel himself. I just know Eamon wouldnt be popular in Ross but I doubt if that will bother him too much come the Connacht Final.
Can't understand why Jimmy White is reffing us again.
From memory Seanie, he's predictable enough and been around a long time so could be worse
as you said in your text Seanie, Walsh is a serious manager !
I have to admit that I was very sceptical when he was appointed due to his lack of exp - but unlike all the other high profile untested ex footballer managers (McGeeney and gilroy) who are floundering, walsh has proved me very wrong and has Sligo playing wonderfully well.
That game on sat was majestic. Some great scores, wonderful high fielding and excitment - playing well on a dreadful day for football !
wathing the soccer after this was like watching paint dry !
Have to say that barring complacency Sligo should win. Rossies will love to spring a surprise, and will make it hard for Sligo, but they should have too much !
Quote from: ross matt on July 06, 2010, 09:23:53 AM
Quote from: Mano on July 05, 2010, 11:44:31 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 05, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: mjg on July 05, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
Hoping tantastic doesnt get halled up before the judges need him to gee up our young lads
Excellent point. Eamon is extremely popular in Ross ;)!
Tell us then why he is so unpopular in Roscommon. Would it have anything to do with a BBC GAA programme a few years ago by any chance?
You referring to the show where he said "The Rossies will be bet and bet well" (previewing the 2003 AI quarterfinal)? Did'nt see it myself but lot of Rossies took exception to it at the time I believe as he appeared to be taking pleasure in the prediction.
I feel it is this rather than his football ability and his behavior on the pitch that the Ross lads have taken umbrage to. My 2 Roscommon uncles were not too happy either when they watched that programme.
I saw that Casey incident also and yes he hit him in the stones but Casey was pulling and dragging out of him all day up to that point. It was only when he went to midfield that day away from Casey's smothering marking that he impacted that day and brought us back into the game.
O'Neill had some robust battles over the years and both gave as good as they got.
Quote from: Mano on July 06, 2010, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: ross matt on July 06, 2010, 09:23:53 AM
Quote from: Mano on July 05, 2010, 11:44:31 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 05, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: mjg on July 05, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
Hoping tantastic doesnt get halled up before the judges need him to gee up our young lads
Excellent point. Eamon is extremely popular in Ross ;)!
Tell us then why he is so unpopular in Roscommon. Would it have anything to do with a BBC GAA programme a few years ago by any chance?
You referring to the show where he said "The Rossies will be bet and bet well" (previewing the 2003 AI quarterfinal)? Did'nt see it myself but lot of Rossies took exception to it at the time I believe as he appeared to be taking pleasure in the prediction.
I feel it is this rather than his football ability and his behavior on the pitch that the Ross lads have taken umbrage to. My 2 Roscommon uncles were not too happy either when they watched that programme.
I saw that Casey incident also and yes he hit him in the stones but Casey was pulling and dragging out of him all day up to that point. It was only when he went to midfield that day away from Casey's smothering marking that he impacted that day and brought us back into the game.
O'Neill had some robust battles over the years and both gave as good as they got.
My recollection Mano is that O'Hara went over to one of his own mentors who'd come on the pitch to administer water/advice. Casey decided to accompany Eamon to have a listen. Annoying perhaps but within his rights as they were all on the pitch. O'Hara hit him on the way back. David might have been pulling and dragging but in general a clean player and if anything a loose footballing type of defender. Agree with you about himself and O'Neill.
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VERSUS
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Hmm two Championship games/two defeats & The Real Laoislad has the cheek to take the piss out of Sligo/rossies
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Quote from: ross4life on July 06, 2010, 04:34:43 PM
Hmm two Championship games/two defeats & The Real Laoislad has the cheek to take the piss out of Sligo/rossies
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Hey 3 actually 1 draw,two defeats.. :-[
Quote from: Turlough O Carolan on July 04, 2010, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 04, 2010, 04:10:17 PM
the last time a Connacht final in McHale park didn't involve Mayo was 1962 Roscommon 3-07 Galway 2-09
That was the famous broken crossbar incident when Roscommon were 5 points down in the second half and not too long left when goalkeeper Aidan Brady pulled down the crossbar. When it was fixed a rampaging Gerry O'Malley inspired Ros to victory - with the broken crossbar being the turning point in the game. Castlebar was actually always a very lucky ground for Roscommon and when Mayo defeated Roscommon there in 1992, it was probably the first time most Mayo supporters saw their county overcome Roscommon in Castlebar. There had been two draws there in 89 and 91 (Duggan's amazing free kick), while Ros won there in 86. Incidentally, when Roscommon lost their great record in Castlebar, Enon Gavin actually broke the crossbar again, thirty years after Aidan Brady had pulled it down. Ros have not won a senior game there since.
I was there the second time the bar was pulled down, if I recall Mayo was running away with it, as Roscommon players were getting quite tired. Mayo seemed alot fitter. When the bar was being replaced (took ages), the Rossie lads lay down on the ground while the Mayo lads paced around waiting for the game to restart. Tre Rossies came roaring back with a second wind, but Mayo managed to pull off the win. Is my account correct or has the years changed what happened in my mind, I was 12 at the time. I also remember when Duggan scored that unbelievable point over the Bacon Factory/An Sportlann end, I was 11 years old high up the stand behind the goal (the stand or terrace! only wnet back half as far as it does today, there was a wall all around with the pillars painted Green and Red & Red aand Green every second one. I remember screaming my head off trying to put him off. That was when I thought Roscommon where our arch-rivals and Galway was this little team that you swatted aside.
Quote from: neilthemac on July 04, 2010, 11:58:58 PM
Quote from: Turlough O Carolan on July 04, 2010, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 04, 2010, 04:10:17 PM
the last time a Connacht final in McHale park didn't involve Mayo was 1962 Roscommon 3-07 Galway 2-09
That was the famous broken crossbar incident when Roscommon were 5 points down in the second half and not too long left when goalkeeper Aidan Brady pulled down the crossbar. When it was fixed a rampaging Gerry O'Malley inspired Ros to victory - with the broken crossbar being the turning point in the game. Castlebar was actually always a very lucky ground for Roscommon and when Mayo defeated Roscommon there in 1992, it was probably the first time most Mayo supporters saw their county overcome Roscommon in Castlebar. There had been two draws there in 89 and 91 (Duggan's amazing free kick), while Ros won there in 86. Incidentally, when Roscommon lost their great record in Castlebar, Enon Gavin actually broke the crossbar again, thirty years after Aidan Brady had pulled it down. Ros have not won a senior game there since.
was there in 1991 and 1992 for that. imagine having a spare crossbar lying around the place!
They took it from one of the Mitchels backpitchs if I recall, they had a huge problem if I recall because the back pitches bars and the McHale Park crossbars had different shape joints.!
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Quote from: mjg on July 05, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
Hoping tantastic doesnt get halled up before the judges need him to gee up our young lads
Excellent point. Eamon is extremely popular in Ross ;)!
Tell us then why he is so unpopular in Roscommon. Would it have anything to do with a BBC GAA programme a few years ago by any chance?
The 1992 crossbar moment made it onto A Question of Sport a few years back, it was one of the few times I knew the anwer, me screaming at the telly in my cousins house in London, as if they where all wrong in the head for not knowing the answer.
Mayogodhelpus - was the Duggan point not at the other end? I was on the Bacon factory terrace that day and though I was behind the kicker?
You are right paddypastit. I'll never forget it.
Rossfan - it sticks in my memory too, for very different reasons. Being nuetral, the winning or losing of the match didn't overly bother me but it was a day to remember. I had wrapped the gluaistean about six weeks before and the club had been dumped from the championship a week or two before so basically no restrictions on the beer the night before. The club were bringing the U-12 team to the match and being carless and at a loose end, the only way to get there was as a 'chaparone' to said U-12s. Not the easiest Sunday of my life!! Got worse after when got stuck in a massive tailback and missed an appointment for food in Swinford. Now we had 20 something hungry cranky U12s - not a great cure and by the time I got back to Sligo, then had to face into getting back to Dublin. Have no idea why I still like football!!
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 06, 2010, 05:37:29 PM
Is my account correct or has the years changed what happened in my mind, I was 12 at the time.
What happened was that Rossfan's favourite referee ever ... guess who ;) ... was reffing and midway through the first half bottled sending off Liam McHale after he almost decapitated our centre back David O'Connor.
A couple of minutes later, he controversially sent off our most dangerous forward up until then, Tommy Grehan - he'd scored two points from play in the game up to that point - for an off the ball incident.
On a day when the exchanges were tough & with Mayo in full flight, it was always going to be a huge factor in determining the outcome.
Ros were going for their third Connacht in-a-row that day & had played two close final games against ye in ' 89 (Draw & Replay which went to extra-time win for ye) & ' 91 (Draw & one point for Ros win in the replay.) I think the best team won on the day for all that, but who can say what would have happened had the ref been more consistent in his application of the rules? It's always been a talking point since.
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Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 06, 2010, 05:37:29 PM
Is my account correct or has the years changed what happened in my mind, I was 12 at the time.
What happened was that Rossfan's favourite referee ever ... guess who ;) ... was reffing and midway through the first half bottled sending off Liam McHale after he almost decapitated our centre back David O'Connor.
A couple of minutes later, he controversially sent off our most dangerous forward up until then, Tommy Grehan - he'd scored two points from play in the game up to that point - for an off the ball incident.
On a day when the exchanges were tough & with Mayo in full flight, it was always going to be a huge factor in determining the outcome.
Ros were going for their third Connacht in-a-row that day & had played two close final games against ye in ' 89 (Draw & Replay which went to extra-time win for ye) & ' 91 (Draw & one point for Ros win in the replay.) I think the best team won on the day for all that, but who can say what would have happened had the ref been more consistent in his application of the rules? It's always been a talking point since.
Remember it well Spec. Tommy G got in a tangle with a Mayo player and made as if to throw the head. Did'nt make contact but was send off all the same. Rightfully so in my opinion. But McHale should definitely have walked for the clothes hanger on O'Connor. That 90/91 Ross side was a fine well organised outfit with an excellent manager in Marty Mac. Unlucky not to win in 89 also as you said.
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10
Minor match has a throw in at 1.30, so will be able to catch some of the ulster final in Mitchels club house 8)
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Quote18th Jul 2010
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savage odds for a match
Quote from: ross4life on July 05, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Donegal's Jimmy White has been appointed as the man in the middle for the Connacht final he also was the ref in the Sligo v Mayo this year
P.S i'm nearly sure the Mchale park crossbars are still wooden?
Edit 100% wooden
(http://www.connachtgaa.ie/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2824&g2_serialNumber=2)
Checked the crossbar tonight. It looks wooden but it is 100% steel. Will take some breaking. There was an unusual team in black training in McHale Park tonite, with a big buck from Galway refereeing in the middle.. I think there using it as their home ground for the next few weeks.
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Quote from: ross4life on July 05, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Checked the crossbar tonight. It looks wooden but it is 100% steel. Will take some breaking. There was an unusual team in black training in McHale Park tonite, with a big buck from Galway refereeing in the middle.. I think there using it as their home ground for the next few weeks.
I'll take your word for it, i stand corrected
Are the Sligo colours not traditionally White with Black trim ?
When did they turn black ?
Quote from: fearglasmor on July 07, 2010, 09:44:07 AM
Are the Sligo colours not traditionally White with Black trim ?
When did they turn black ?
Only in 2001! Where have you been?!!!
Quote from: paddypastit on July 06, 2010, 05:47:05 PM
Mayogodhelpus - was the Duggan point not at the other end? I was on the Bacon factory terrace that day and though I was behind the kicker?
Are ye sure, I was 11 at the time and its a long time back, but I always thought it was that side, I was defo behind the goal.
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Quote from: fearglasmor on July 07, 2010, 09:44:07 AM
Are the Sligo colours not traditionally White with Black trim ?
When did they turn black ?
Only in 2001! Where have you been?!!!
Living in the past it seems, maybe its something to do with having to live in Roscommon. :'(
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Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 06, 2010, 05:37:29 PM
Is my account correct or has the years changed what happened in my mind, I was 12 at the time.
What happened was that Rossfan's favourite referee ever ... guess who ;) ... was reffing and midway through the first half bottled sending off Liam McHale after he almost decapitated our centre back David O'Connor.
A couple of minutes later, he controversially sent off our most dangerous forward up until then, Tommy Grehan - he'd scored two points from play in the game up to that point - for an off the ball incident.
On a day when the exchanges were tough & with Mayo in full flight, it was always going to be a huge factor in determining the outcome.
Ros were going for their third Connacht in-a-row that day & had played two close final games against ye in ' 89 (Draw & Replay which went to extra-time win for ye) & ' 91 (Draw & one point for Ros win in the replay.) I think the best team won on the day for all that, but who can say what would have happened had the ref been more consistent in his application of the rules? It's always been a talking point since.
Remember it well Spec. Tommy G got in a tangle with a Mayo player and made as if to throw the head. Did'nt make contact but was send off all the same. Rightfully so in my opinion. But McHale should definitely have walked for the clothes hanger on O'Connor. That 90/91 Ross side was a fine well organised outfit with an excellent manager in Marty Mac. Unlucky not to win in 89 also as you said.
I remember McHale getting a red card in McHale one of those years in the early 90's (don't think it was late 80's) was that against ye or Galway.
Can anyone else remember McHale running up the McHale road side and half way through soloing the ball he started to bounce it like a basketball (obviously forgot what sport he was playing) he was clear and probably would have scored a point only for the obvious free against him, again was that against Roscommon or Galway?
Quote from: ross4life on July 06, 2010, 10:33:11 PM
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10
Minor match has a throw in at 1.30, so will be able to catch some of the ulster final in Mitchels club house 8)
I'll be the one singing "give us back our Ballaghaderreen"
Actually hope my Rossie mate comes down, he scuttled off awful fast after the 2004 Final in McHale.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 07, 2010, 02:43:21 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 06, 2010, 10:33:11 PM
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10
Minor match has a throw in at 1.30, so will be able to catch some of the ulster final in Mitchels club house 8)
I'll be the one singing "give us back our Ballaghaderreen"
Actually hope my Rossie mate comes down, he scuttled off awful fast after the 2004 Final in McHale.
Well you can give us the Ballagh players then, i'm especially looking forward to seeing Pierce Hanly in Roscommon colours ;D
& wasn't 2004 the Year Mayo fan's scuttled off awful fast after All Ireland final
Fergal will need this type of speech on July 18th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWBlmGjMuFs
Sod the speech those pics brought on a few tears of joy and pride again.
Hope the lads can be inspired from them.
Hope the Mayowestros lads had a look at Kerry being bet in an All Ireland final :D
Typical mayo lads must have 346 threads going on this board but still feel its there right to hyjack this one
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 07, 2010, 02:40:07 PM
I remember McHale getting a red card in McHale one of those years in the early 90's (don't think it was late 80's) was that against ye or Galway.
You may be getting mixed up MGHU, if you're thinking of the time he got sent off against us in The Hyde in '93?
He said himself afterwards that lamping the Rossie and getting the line for it was the thing that finally gained him acceptance amongst the Mayo supporters, who'd always [mistakenly] reckoned he was a namby-pamby basketballer up to that point :D ... most of them must not have been in McHale Park the year before to witness his attack on Doc!
There was no 'Nice' tag attached to the Mayo team at that time, that's for sure. :D
I take it that season ticket holders from Mayo and Galway (minor match) will not be entitled to buy stand tickets as a priority or anything like that ?
Quote from: blast05 on July 08, 2010, 10:45:58 PM
I take it that season ticket holders from Mayo and Galway (minor match) will not be entitled to buy stand tickets as a priority or anything like that ?
What about McHale Park/County Board seat holders. Will we get free tickets to the Connacht final or is that not part of the deal either. So far, the following competitions are not part of the McHale Park season ticket holder deal...
1) FBD League Games.
2) National Hurling League Games
3) Connacht Championship Games not involving Mayo.
I signed up for that McHale Park seat and have got very little out of it so far. Anyone else in the same boat?
Quote from: blast05 on July 08, 2010, 10:45:58 PM
I take it that season ticket holders from Mayo and Galway (minor match) will not be entitled to buy stand tickets as a priority or anything like that ?
I'm in tears here at the injustice!
Quote from: mjg on July 07, 2010, 08:28:59 PM
Typical mayo lads must have 346 threads going on this board but still feel its there right to hyjack this one
Well ye could hijack ours if ye want. I'll be at the game and I'm expecting a good game. Ros are not mentioned in media circles anywhere at all and could win it.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 07, 2010, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: paddypastit on July 06, 2010, 05:47:05 PM
Mayogodhelpus - was the Duggan point not at the other end? I was on the Bacon factory terrace that day and though I was behind the kicker?
Are ye sure, I was 11 at the time and its a long time back, but I always thought it was that side, I was defo behind the goal.
Opposite end to Bacon Factory. Christ we used to make heavy weather of those matches. But then again we know a lot more now than we did then about a certain manager.
Have i missed him on here or has Sligonian gone missing :o :o
Fear not, because he is posting regularly on the Roscommon supporters website, and the arrogance and c**k sure attitude is only dripping off him.
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 09, 2010, 08:23:10 PM
Have i missed him on here or has Sligonian gone missing :o :o
Fear not, because he is posting regularly on the Roscommon supporters website, and the arrogance and c**k sure attitude is only dripping off him.
;D And here was me thinking he was keeping his powder dry.
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 09, 2010, 08:23:10 PM
Have i missed him on here or has Sligonian gone missing :o :o
Fear not, because he is posting regularly on the Roscommon supporters website, and the arrogance and c**k sure attitude is only dripping off him.
I took a break because of a incident off the board. Arrogance and c**k sure atitude is complete rubbish. Its not my fault roscommon are no great shakes at senior. I still give ye a chance but its in our hands.
It is surely, however if Sligo think they will walk it because they've beaten Galway and Mayo they might just end up with egg on their faces!
I find it stranger that a Sligo follower who knows first hand what it's like to be at the bottom of the barrel, should know a underdog can still raise there game on any given day
E.G I'll never forget those 1987 & 1997 defeats to Sligo
you can rest assured there's no one with any knowledge of football taking this for granted. We expect a tough game from Roscommon and personally I would prefer if we were underdogs but were not and for good reason I suppose.
Very proud of the way they dug themselves out of the debacle in salthill, I was in the terrace and it took me about a week to get over it so fair play to the players and the management team.
This sligo team are a special bunch of lads, they are tenacious and dont know how to quit which is a great thing to witness. Looking forward to a good connuaght final and keeping the fingers crossed that we can sneak it by a point or two.
After today it looks like Sligo were on the "easy" side of the draw.
Ross to win i reckon.
Quote from: highorlow on July 10, 2010, 06:40:08 PM
After today it looks like Sligo were on the "easy" side of the draw.
Ross to win i reckon.
If your judging it on Today's results how about Cavan getting beat by 18pts the same team that hammered us in Hyde park scoring 2-20
In fairness, nobody should take anything away from Sligo's achievement in beating both Galway and Mayo.
However, we need to ask what was the true currency of those wins. Longford replicated Sligo's win over Mayo, and today Wexford have repeated Sligo's win over Galway.
Mayo and Galway are still big Gaa names, but in my opinion, that's all they now are. Their Senior teams are both in decline.
Imagine that Mayo's championship consisted of 2 games and 2 defeats against Sligo and Longford. It's years since Mayo have displayed form like this.
Galway struggled to beat New York, drew with Sligo, and then lose to both Sligo and Wexford.
When was the Galway team as inept as it currently is?
Sligo still had to do the hard work and beat these 2 giants of Connacht Football, but having done so, have people over rated this Sligo team re their future prospects in this year's championship?
They are 1/4 favourites with the bookies to land the Connacht Title. Ridiculously short odds in my opinion. It's a 2 horse race.
I have never seen the build up to a provincial final so dominated by talk of just one team. In the media, there isn't a word about Roscommon. Even within the county itself, the build up is very low key, with very few flags on show, even on cars.
All the talk nationally and throughout the West is focussing on Sligo.
It's hard to know which Roscommon will turn up. Against London, they were impressive enough in the first half, but very poor in the second half.
Against Leitrim, the reverse happened.
A similar performance against Sligo, and it's all over for Ros, provided of course that Sligo can repeat the intensity of earlier performances for a fourth time.
However, if Ros can repeat that second half showing against Leitrim for even 60 minutes of the Final, i reckon there could be another ''shock'' in this year of shock results.
One final point to ponder. Both teams started this year's League in Division 3, and whilst they endured differing fortunes, it's not exactly a David v Goliath scenario.
It would be extremely foolish to underestimate Ros. Football is a funny business and anything can happen on a given day. I reckon Ros are planning a serious ambush. If ever I saw a team set up for a nasty surprise it is Sligo. Nothing against the Rossies but I hope Sligo get a good run this year.
Look lads, i'll say it again Roscommon have a chance imo. We have weaknesses but ye have more, we have more quality, and imo its simple, we have to match the workrate and intensity of the galway game, if not we could be in trouble. I have to trust that the players wont let us down, so im confident of a Sligo win, as I was in the last 3 games, but not over confident.
The thing i dont get is the lazy analysis, roscommon planning a serious ambush, well duh, everyone said after the NFL div 1 final mayo wounded animal and poor Sligo to be slain, After the draw to Galway, Sligo missed the boat, etc.... the Sligo team and management will in no way underestimate Roscommon, no fcking way, so get over it.
Are people that retarded to think mayo and galway were walkovers for us? Longford beat mayo but they were alot worse than against us, look at galway today compared too last week, today had no intensity, when a team like galway or mayo lose to Sligo, they lose a severe amount of confidence and thus played alot worse the week after because both hadnt recovered mentally.
If we are honest Roscommon have shown us what exactly at senior this yr? Sligo have bascially won 6 championship matches and drawn 1 this yr, weve shown consistency and strength in depth. Even if Roscommon were to rattle us we still have options on the bench. Patience like the league game maybe the key to our success.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 10, 2010, 11:30:58 PM
Look lads, i'll say it again Roscommon have a chance imo. We have weaknesses but ye have more, we have more quality, and imo its simple, we have to match the workrate and intensity of the galway game, if not we could be in trouble. I have to trust that the players wont let us down, so im confident of a Sligo win, as I was in the last 3 games, but not over confident.
The thing i dont get is the lazy analysis, roscommon planning a serious ambush, well duh, everyone said after the NFL div 1 final mayo wounded animal and poor Sligo to be slain, After the draw to Galway, Sligo missed the boat, etc.... the Sligo team and management will in no way underestimate Roscommon, no fcking way, so get over it.
Are people that retarded to think mayo and galway were walkovers for us? Longford beat mayo but they were alot worse than against us, look at galway today compared too last week, today had no intensity, when a team like galway or mayo lose to Sligo, they lose a severe amount of confidence and thus played alot worse the week after because both hadnt recovered mentally.
If we are honest Roscommon have shown us what exactly at senior this yr? Sligo have bascially won 6 championship matches and drawn 1 this yr, weve shown consistency and strength in depth. Even if Roscommon were to rattle us we still have options on the bench. Patience like the league game maybe the key to our success.
Sligonian, not for the first time, i find your comments a little bit annoying.
First of all, the context in which you used the word ''retarded'' was a disgrace. That word has a bigger and more significant meaning in the real world for a lot of people.
Nobody said that beating Galway and Mayo was a walkover for Sligo. I only pointed out that they beat poorer than normal Galway and Mayo teams. Even Mayo and Galway people will tell you that.
You said that Sligo have ''basically '' won 6 championship matches and drawn one this year :o :o :o
Utter rubbish.
Ye've won 2 championship matches!!!!! If you think that beating Roscommon's second team in the league last April was a ''championship'' game, you've got a big shock coming next week.
Sligo may well win, but i don't think this Ros team is going down without a fight.
You should prepare yourself for the prospect of possible defeat. I was talking to a friend today from the Coolera/Strandhill club who told me about a mother and father of 2 young kids who enquired if the trophy for the Connacht Championship would be available for the public to view on the day after the game.
They want the kids photographed with it.
He told them in no uncertain terms to promise the kids nothing of the sort, and not to count their chickens.
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 11, 2010, 12:30:11 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 10, 2010, 11:30:58 PM
Look lads, i'll say it again Roscommon have a chance imo. We have weaknesses but ye have more, we have more quality, and imo its simple, we have to match the workrate and intensity of the galway game, if not we could be in trouble. I have to trust that the players wont let us down, so im confident of a Sligo win, as I was in the last 3 games, but not over confident.
The thing i dont get is the lazy analysis, roscommon planning a serious ambush, well duh, everyone said after the NFL div 1 final mayo wounded animal and poor Sligo to be slain, After the draw to Galway, Sligo missed the boat, etc.... the Sligo team and management will in no way underestimate Roscommon, no fcking way, so get over it.
Are people that retarded to think mayo and galway were walkovers for us? Longford beat mayo but they were alot worse than against us, look at galway today compared too last week, today had no intensity, when a team like galway or mayo lose to Sligo, they lose a severe amount of confidence and thus played alot worse the week after because both hadnt recovered mentally.
If we are honest Roscommon have shown us what exactly at senior this yr? Sligo have bascially won 6 championship matches and drawn 1 this yr, weve shown consistency and strength in depth. Even if Roscommon were to rattle us we still have options on the bench. Patience like the league game maybe the key to our success.
Sligonian, not for the first time, i find your comments a little bit annoying.
First of all, the context in which you used the word ''retarded'' was a disgrace. That word has a bigger and more significant meaning in the real world for a lot of people.
Nobody said that beating Galway and Mayo was a walkover for Sligo. I only pointed out that they beat poorer than normal Galway and Mayo teams. Even Mayo and Galway people will tell you that.
You said that Sligo have ''basically '' won 6 championship matches and drawn one this year :o :o :o
Utter rubbish.
Ye've won 2 championship matches!!!!! If you think that beating Roscommon's second team in the league last April was a ''championship'' game, you've got a big shock coming next week.
Sligo may well win, but i don't think this Ros team is going down without a fight.
You should prepare yourself for the prospect of possible defeat. I was talking to a friend today from the Coolera/Strandhill club who told me about a mother and father of 2 young kids who enquired if the trophy for the Connacht Championship would be available for the public to view on the day after the game.
They want the kids photographed with it.
He told them in no uncertain terms to promise the kids nothing of the sort, and not to count their chickens.
I didnt exactly directly call anyone a retard. I merely asked a question? Are people.........On all forums Roscommon people are looking to be offended, I was called an arrogant p***k on Stolensheep, water off a ducks back. Making mountains out of mohils.
Sligos first target this yr was promotion, becuase we fcked up the start of the league we had to win all our remaining NFL games, the reference to championship were KEVIN WALSHS words not mine, so have it out with him, any post match interview he says those games prepared us big time as they were must win for us, championship style games where the pressure was on from within the squad.
Not sure i believe that story as it is ludicrious and they obviously havent a clue as there is no certainty in sport.
I still dont buy the galway were worse than normal. Its always the way when Sligo beat them, like in 07. Its insulting and downright disrespectful but nothing new.
Anyway in a few weeks we will be all the wiser.
Let's agree to disagree, and let the best team win.
Sligo's downfall will be underestimating Roscommon. Granted they never had the hardest route however they will be up for a fight.
Sligo are a hard to team to figure out, although I don't want to take anything away from Sligo but they have beaten a rather poor Mayo team and were unlucky not to beat Galway in the first game, and were lucky to win the replay.
Roscommon although they were hammered by Mayo last year they did recover and beat Wexford who narrowly beat Galway yesterday. I just think that Connacht football is very rocky and there is no stand out team. Sligo will have a superiority complex against Roscommon which will bite them on the arse.
Sligo (and by that I mean the people who mater - players/management) will not underestmate Roscommon one bit and I can guarantee you that. Its a red herring argument. Sligo are favourites due to results so far but that means nothing. Its just pub talk. Roscommon are more than capable of winning this game - anyone with an ounce of footall knowledge knows this. They have rakes of quality in their side. I feel we have a great chance of winning though, as I did in the last 3 games. We will need to play very, very well but I have faith in the management and players to produce whatever is necessary to get us over the line by a point and lift the cup.
Having watched two huge underdogs (louth,Limerick) putting up great fight's where they could & should have won, i would be very disappointed if our boys are not at least competitive next weekend
We are written off by most and unmentioned in the media ( which will continue due to the Leinster Final business taking up most GAA space this week).
We have done nothing of note all year...except maybe batin Louth in the NFL. We conceded 2-20 to bloody Cavan.
Sligo have been doing mighty things ( esp according to Sligonian :D) all year and are roaring favourites.
However all that has happened to date in 2010 will count for nothing next Sunday. All that will count is what happens in McHale from 4 pm onwards.
We will be there and we will be giving it our almighty best shot as it's a last chance of a Conancht medal for the likes of Mannion/Dunning/Finneran/Rogers/Woggie/Casey to name a few of the older lads who may not be around next year.
We'll see what that brings us on the day and take it from there.
I am not without hope but realistically we only have a slim chance but a chance nonetheless ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2010, 08:07:06 PM
We are written off by most and unmentioned in the media ( which will continue due to the Leinster Final business taking up most GAA space this week).
We have done nothing of note all year...except maybe batin Louth in the NFL. We conceded 2-20 to bloody Cavan.
Sligo have been doing mighty things ( esp according to Sligonian :D) all year and are roaring favourites.
However all that has happened to date in 2010 will count for nothing next Sunday. All that will count is what happens in McHale from 4 pm onwards.
We will be there and we will be giving it our almighty best shot as it's a last chance of a Conancht medal for the likes of Mannion/Dunning/Finneran/Rogers/Woggie/Casey to name a few of the older lads who may not be around next year.
We'll see what that brings us on the day and take it from there.
I am not without hope but realistically we only have a slim chance but a chance nonetheless ;)
Oi >:( :D
Looking back,how in gods name did that happen?
Rossies definetely have a chance,but this Sligo team has been so impressive so far that you would have to say should they perform, i fear they will be too good for ye.
It will be a huge step up in class for Roscommon having played two Division 4 teams in Leitrim and London previously,whats Roscommons record against Sligo like in championship RF?
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2010, 08:07:06 PM
We are written off by most and unmentioned in the media ( which will continue due to the Leinster Final business taking up most GAA space this week).
We have done nothing of note all year...except maybe batin Louth in the NFL. We conceded 2-20 to bloody Cavan.
Sligo have been doing mighty things ( esp according to Sligonian :D) all year and are roaring favourites.
However all that has happened to date in 2010 will count for nothing next Sunday. All that will count is what happens in McHale from 4 pm onwards.
We will be there and we will be giving it our almighty best shot as it's a last chance of a Conancht medal for the likes of Mannion/Dunning/Finneran/Rogers/Woggie/Casey to name a few of the older lads who may not be around next year.
We'll see what that brings us on the day and take it from there.
I am not without hope but realistically we only have a slim chance but a chance nonetheless ;)
Do ye want a loan of the Ballaghaderreen lads for the weekend, I'd love to see Sligonians reaction ;D
Sligo are the home team, so does that mean we should shout for them. Then again Roscommon are the underdogs so maybe we should support them!
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2010, 08:12:58 PM
,whats Roscommons record against Sligo like in championship RF?
Don't know overall but in recent times we lost in 87,97,2007 while we bet them in 89,98(replay), 2004(replay).
I'd say we'd have beaten them more regularly in the days before then.
I see Tommy Truck has moved on from ye BHM?
Which of us was left in the worst state by his tenure/ :D
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2010, 08:25:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2010, 08:12:58 PM
,whats Roscommons record against Sligo like in championship RF?
Don't know overall but in recent times we lost in 87,97,2007 while we bet them in 89,98(replay), 2004(replay).
I'd say we'd have beaten them more regularly in the days before then.
I see Tommy Truck has moved on from ye BHM?
Which of us was left in the worst state by his tenure/ :D
You lads have to take that honour,as ye havent been a shadow of what ye were in the early 21st century since Carr's regime ,Hopefully it doesnt take us as long to recover.
For ballyhaiseman ;)
Roscommon v Sligo Connacht Championship
Roscommon Wins 19 Sligo wins 10 & 6 Draws
(two objections in 1925)
1906 - Ballaghaderreen:
Roscommon 3-6 Sligo 1-3
1915 - Boyle:
Roscommon 1-2 Sligo 0-1
1919 - Boyle
Roscommon 3-1 Sligo 1-3
1922- Sligo
Sligo 3-5 Roscommon 0-2
1924 - Ballaghaderreen
Roscommon 1-4 Sligo 0-2
1925 - Boyle (Objection)
Roscommon 2-4 Sligo 2-2
Roscommon:
Sligo 1-5 Roscommon 1-5
Sligo:
Sligo: 0-6 Roscommon 1-3
Sligo:
Sligo 2-0 Roscommon 0-6
Roscommon (Objection):
Sligo 2-3 Roscommon 0-5
Roscommon:
Sligo 2-3 Roscommon 0-2
1930 - Boyle:
Sligo 2-7 Roscommon 0-5
1935 - Tubercurry:
Sligo 3-1 Roscommon 3-3
1937 - Castlerea:
Sligo 2-10 Roscommon 1-6
1941 - Boyle:
Roscommon 1-9 Sligo 0-5
1942 - Boyle:
Roscommon 0-16 Sligo 0-6
1944 - Boyle:
Roscommon 1-5 Sligo 0-8
Replay Boyle:
Roscommon 0-13 Sligo 1-6
1947 - Ballina (Final):
Roscommon 2-12 Sligo 1-8
1950 - Ballina:
Roscommon 0-10 Sligo 1-5
1955 - Castlebar:
Roscommon 1-9 Sligo 0-4
1961 - Charlestown:
Roscommon 2-9 Sligo 2-6
1962 - Charlestown:
Roscommon 3-6 Sligo 1-1
1969 - Sligo:
Roscommon 2-12 Sligo 1-6
1971 - Roscommon:
Sligo 0-10 Roscommon 1-5
1974 - Sligo:
Roscommon 2-8 Sligo 1-11
Replay: Roscommon:
Roscommon 0-13 Sligo 0-8
1976 - Sligo:
Roscommon 1-10 Sligo 0-7
1977 - Roscommon
Roscommon 2-9 Sligo 1-6
1981 - Sligo
Sligo 2-9 Roscommon 1-8
1982 - Roscommon
Roscommon 3-8 Sligo 0-13
1987 - Sligo:
Sligo 2-8 Roscommon 0-12
1989 - Roscommon:
Roscommon 4-11 Sligo 1-8
1997 - Sligo:
Sligo 1-14 Roscommon 1-11
1998 - Roscommon:
Roscommon 2-12 Sligo 1-15
Replay: Sligo:
Roscommon 1-13 Sligo 0-15
2004-Roscommon
Roscommon 1-10 Sligo 0- 13
Replay: Sligo
Roscommon 2-16 Sligo 1-15
2007-Roscommon
Roscommon 2-5 Sligo 0-13v
Quote from: ross4life on July 11, 2010, 09:52:04 PM
For ballyhaiseman ;)
Roscommon v Sligo Connacht Championship
Roscommon Wins 19 Sligo wins 10 & 6 Draws
(two objections in 1925)
1906 - Ballaghaderreen:
Roscommon 3-6 Sligo 1-3
1915 - Boyle:
Roscommon 1-2 Sligo 0-1
1919 - Boyle
Roscommon 3-1 Sligo 1-3
1922- Sligo
Sligo 3-5 Roscommon 0-2
1924 - Ballaghaderreen
Roscommon 1-4 Sligo 0-2
1925 - Boyle (Objection)
Roscommon 2-4 Sligo 2-2
Roscommon:
Sligo 1-5 Roscommon 1-5
Sligo:
Sligo: 0-6 Roscommon 1-3
Sligo:
Sligo 2-0 Roscommon 0-6
Roscommon (Objection):
Sligo 2-3 Roscommon 0-5
Roscommon:
Sligo 2-3 Roscommon 0-2
1930 - Boyle:
Sligo 2-7 Roscommon 0-5
1935 - Tubercurry:
Sligo 3-1 Roscommon 3-3
1937 - Castlerea:
Sligo 2-10 Roscommon 1-6
1941 - Boyle:
Roscommon 1-9 Sligo 0-5
1942 - Boyle:
Roscommon 0-16 Sligo 0-6
1944 - Boyle:
Roscommon 1-5 Sligo 0-8
Replay Boyle:
Roscommon 0-13 Sligo 1-6
1947 - Ballina (Final):
Roscommon 2-12 Sligo 1-8
1950 - Ballina:
Roscommon 0-10 Sligo 1-5
1955 - Castlebar:
Roscommon 1-9 Sligo 0-4
1961 - Charlestown:
Roscommon 2-9 Sligo 2-6
1962 - Charlestown:
Roscommon 3-6 Sligo 1-1
1969 - Sligo:
Roscommon 2-12 Sligo 1-6
1971 - Roscommon:
Sligo 0-10 Roscommon 1-5
1974 - Sligo:
Roscommon 2-8 Sligo 1-11
Replay: Roscommon:
Roscommon 0-13 Sligo 0-8
1976 - Sligo:
Roscommon 1-10 Sligo 0-7
1977 - Roscommon
Roscommon 2-9 Sligo 1-6
1981 - Sligo
Sligo 2-9 Roscommon 1-8
1982 - Roscommon
Roscommon 3-8 Sligo 0-13
1987 - Sligo:
Sligo 2-8 Roscommon 0-12
1989 - Roscommon:
Roscommon 4-11 Sligo 1-8
1997 - Sligo:
Sligo 1-14 Roscommon 1-11
1998 - Roscommon:
Roscommon 2-12 Sligo 1-15
Replay: Sligo:
Roscommon 1-13 Sligo 0-15
2004-Roscommon
Roscommon 1-10 Sligo 0- 13
Replay: Sligo
Roscommon 2-16 Sligo 1-15
2007-Roscommon
Roscommon 2-5 Sligo 0-13v
Thanks for that Ross4life
There have been a few replays recently.
id fancy Sligo by at least 5,but hopefully the Rossies will suprise all those who have written them off.
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2010, 10:21:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 11, 2010, 09:52:04 PM
Thanks for that Ross4life
There have been a few replays recently.
id fancy Sligo by at least 5,but hopefully the Rossies will suprise all those who have written them off.
Yep i would go along with that & a good fighting display in a exciting final would be nice
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 11, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2010, 08:07:06 PM
We are written off by most and unmentioned in the media ( which will continue due to the Leinster Final business taking up most GAA space this week).
We have done nothing of note all year...except maybe batin Louth in the NFL. We conceded 2-20 to bloody Cavan.
Sligo have been doing mighty things ( esp according to Sligonian :D) all year and are roaring favourites.
However all that has happened to date in 2010 will count for nothing next Sunday. All that will count is what happens in McHale from 4 pm onwards.
We will be there and we will be giving it our almighty best shot as it's a last chance of a Conancht medal for the likes of Mannion/Dunning/Finneran/Rogers/Woggie/Casey to name a few of the older lads who may not be around next year.
We'll see what that brings us on the day and take it from there.
I am not without hope but realistically we only have a slim chance but a chance nonetheless ;)
Do ye want a loan of the Ballaghaderreen lads for the weekend, I'd love to see Sligonians reaction ;D
Sligo are the home team, so does that mean we should shout for them. Then again Roscommon are the underdogs so maybe we should support them!
We certainly dont want the ballagh boys help because at the moment we wouldnt beat the tinkers out of charlestown although on second thoughts who wud
I dont think there's much point in Ross supporters taking offence at being written off. Sligo are worthy favourites.
Fergie has made decent progress in getting to the Connacht final regardless of it being the weaker side of the draw. But in fairness to him it's a work in progress.
Sligo are at a completely different level not just in terms of the high intensity route they took to the final. They're also much more experienced and hardened outfit (mentally and physically) thanks to their breakthrough title in 2007.
However I think it will be a decent match. Ross can play with an element of abandon as there is no pressure on them compared to their opponents. If they put up a competitive decent performance they will enter the qualifiers with some confidence and feel things have finally tuned around.
For Sligo its the complete opposite. Nothing less than a win will be a complete disaster and the qualifiers wont be appetising for them. Thats pressure. Too much pressure can lead to mistakes or key players freezing.
Slim chance of that happening but a chance nonetheless. Its the only way I can see Ross winning.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2010, 08:07:06 PM
We will be there and we will be giving it our almighty best shot as it's a last chance of a Conancht medal for the likes of Mannion/Dunning/Finneran/Rogers/Woggie/Casey to name a few of the older lads who may not be around next year.
Don't wanna be picky Rossfan but Dunning has his Connacht senior medal already... have you forgotten about the important role he played in the winning goal back in 2001?
Jees lads when you think about the furore in leinster, all next weekends refs,linemens and umpire will be feeling a little more pressure than usual. I pray our game has no controversy and the best team wins on the day fair and square.
Fair enough synopsis ross matt, midfield is a key area as usual, Tony Taylor is back in contention from injury, Mullen would be my first choice to be honest, his physicality will be vital against roscommon, I expect a physical approach from the ros, id say ye'll get in our faces, no doubt O Hara will be targetted and hopefully he'll stay away from trouble. I could see Roscommon drawing alot of fouls as Shine will punish us if are indisclipined within 45ms, I think ye know our weaknesses, we do, but these lads have strengths aswell, im not sure ye have the right men to exploit them, I could be wrong. Im still waiting to see Shine show himself from play, Alot of rossies would prefer him at CHF. I presuming Finneran and Mannion will be midfield, i have to say im confident of us winning that battle. I rate cregg highly, hes a very direct runner and could cause us problems, he has no problems finishing. Ross Donovan has to pick up heneghan. I maybe wrong but i cant roscommon going 1on1 with kelly, i expect an extra man in yer defence, we are not one man team though, i hope we in turn play the loose man in midfield and siege ye in from there which is what we should of done in 2nd half against galway but hopefully we learned that day. I expect McGee, Marren and Kelly to be our FF line, marren did well from play, mcgee is a better right foot free taker and we cant afford to miss what marren did against galway from frees. Id probably start Mullen and Gilmartin in midfield. Im hearing Mark Quinn is back in full training but dont hold me to that. Phillips will start but Quinn is great cover if fit. We really need to watch the breaks in the pocket, Clancy did some damage to us there but we eventually got on top there. We really need to create loads of space in mchale and not turn into a war, no overcrowding. We will have to be patient, in the league against Roscommon second team it took us until 5mins in 2nd half to pull away, this will even tougher and we need to stay calm and patient if Roscommon are on our heels the whole way through. The pressure has been on for the squad within the county from mayo game and the lads handled it, i expect us to handle on sunday. As i said before complacency cannot exist in sligo team because of the competition for places. No player can decide to give anything less than 100% when he knows he'll be taken off promptly. Complacency in my book is where players dont work as hard as possible and i just cant us doing but tbh I'll know in the first 5mins if we will win or not.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 12, 2010, 11:17:05 PM
I'll know in the first 5mins if we will win or not.
Yes like the Mayo fans last year v us
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 12, 2010, 11:17:05 PM
Jees lads when you think about the furore in leinster, all next weekends refs,linemens and umpire will be feeling a little more pressure than usual. I pray our game has no controversy and the best team wins on the day fair and square.
Fair enough synopsis ross matt, midfield is a key area as usual, Tony Taylor is back in contention from injury, Mullen would be my first choice to be honest, his physicality will be vital against roscommon, I expect a physical approach from the ros, id say ye'll get in our faces, no doubt O Hara will be targetted and hopefully he'll stay away from trouble. I could see Roscommon drawing alot of fouls as Shine will punish us if are indisclipined within 45ms, I think ye know our weaknesses, we do, but these lads have strengths aswell, im not sure ye have the right men to exploit them, I could be wrong. Im still waiting to see Shine show himself from play, Alot of rossies would prefer him at CHF. I presuming Finneran and Mannion will be midfield, i have to say im confident of us winning that battle. I rate cregg highly, hes a very direct runner and could cause us problems, he has no problems finishing. Ross Donovan has to pick up heneghan. I maybe wrong but i cant roscommon going 1on1 with kelly, i expect an extra man in yer defence, we are not one man team though, i hope we in turn play the loose man in midfield and siege ye in from there which is what we should of done in 2nd half against galway but hopefully we learned that day. I expect McGee, Marren and Kelly to be our FF line, marren did well from play, mcgee is a better right foot free taker and we cant afford to miss what marren did against galway from frees. Id probably start Mullen and Gilmartin in midfield. Im hearing Mark Quinn is back in full training but dont hold me to that. Phillips will start but Quinn is great cover if fit. We really need to watch the breaks in the pocket, Clancy did some damage to us there but we eventually got on top there. We really need to create loads of space in mchale and not turn into a war, no overcrowding. We will have to be patient, in the league against Roscommon second team it took us until 5mins in 2nd half to pull away, this will even tougher and we need to stay calm and patient if Roscommon are on our heels the whole way through. The pressure has been on for the squad within the county from mayo game and the lads handled it, i expect us to handle on sunday. As i said before complacency cannot exist in sligo team because of the competition for places. No player can decide to give anything less than 100% when he knows he'll be taken off promptly. Complacency in my book is where players dont work as hard as possible and i just cant us doing but tbh I'll know in the first 5mins if we will win or not.
Roscommon's physicality is a lazy myth. They havent been physical for years. Sligo are muuch the harder outfit in this regard. And precioous Eamon wont have to be targeted. He's well able to draw the attention to himself and look after himself when it comes his way.
Quote from: ross4life on July 12, 2010, 11:53:02 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 12, 2010, 11:17:05 PM
I'll know in the first 5mins if we will win or not.
Yes like the Mayo fans last year v us
Or Kerry V us in an All-Ireland Final ;D
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 12, 2010, 11:17:05 PM
I maybe wrong but i cant roscommon going 1on1 with kelly,
Curious Sligonian if you knew David Kelly was a Roscommon man, born and bred, until his family moved to Tubercurry. Great player. As your former PRO wrote in the Herald, Roscommon's loss is Sligo's gain. That said, I can't see Ros putting 2 players on Kelly. Looking forward to the battle between Kelly and hopefully Ormsby on Sunday.
Is this the early game on Sunday?
No, Ulster is on at 2pm.
It's great seeing a Roscommon/Sligo final and the 'big' two not involved. It mixes it up a bit and shows how unpredictable things can get. Sligo have been excellent so far, the best team in the country to watch and hope they go on to represent Connacht in Croke park (no offence to Roscommon but I think Sligo are a far better team). If Roscommon prove me wrong then best of luck to them.
Anyway, good luck to both teams.
Quote from: ballinaman on July 13, 2010, 05:42:56 AM
No, Ulster is on at 2pm.
Cheers, would've preferred to watch the Sligo v Ross game, don't know that I'll be able to stay up to watch it now. Monday evening with the spuds to watch Sligo or the Rossies win Connacht it is so
Quote from: Turlough O Carolan on July 13, 2010, 04:57:05 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 12, 2010, 11:17:05 PM
I maybe wrong but i cant roscommon going 1on1 with kelly,
Curious Sligonian if you knew David Kelly was a Roscommon man, born and bred, until his family moved to Tubercurry. Great player. As your former PRO wrote in the Herald, Roscommon's loss is Sligo's gain. That said, I can't see Ros putting 2 players on Kelly. Looking forward to the battle between Kelly and hopefully Ormsby on Sunday.
I think if memory serves me right his dad is from belmullet and the family moved from crossmolina to tubber when he was a young lad. Mayo's loss and all that....
There hasn't been a word from the Roscommon camp in weeks. And even the Ross posters here are keeping a pretty low profile! ;)
They either don't believe they have much of a chance, or are waiting in the long grass to ambush the Black & Tans (O'Hara :P).
I think O'Donnell will have them well fired up and they should give a good account of themselves, but Sligo really should have the experience, physicality and skill to win this one by a few points in the end.
On David Kelly, his father is definitely from Belmullet but worked in the bank in Roscommon before Tubbercurry I think - not sure where the family lived, had a feeling it was somewhere in Mayo though...
A friend has got tickets for here for Sunday.
Anyone got a layout plan or where are these seats?
SIDE5
UNRESERVED SEATING
SIDELINE
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 13, 2010, 10:37:22 AM
A friend has got tickets for here for Sunday.
Anyone got a layout plan or where are these seats?
SIDE5
UNRESERVED SEATING
SIDELINE
Anywhere apart from the stand I think
Quote from: Tubberman on July 13, 2010, 08:54:45 AM
waiting in the long grass to ambush the Black & Tans (O'Hara :P).
:D
Quote from: ross matt on July 12, 2010, 11:54:42 PM
Roscommon's physicality is a lazy myth. They havent been physical for years. Sligo are muuch the harder outfit in this regard.
I dont know why this myth persists at all.
Was talking to a Cyaaaavan man today and he was on about " Ye'd have a good big team I suppose".
Anything but .
Hopefully White will protect our ladeens from the expected physical onslaught by the Sligos.
Sligo half forward line are like monsters compared to our half back line, Lack of fitness & pace is a worry for our team too
For those that don't already know..
The losers will have to play the following weekend v possibly Armagh,Cork,Derry or Down
The winners will play a Quarter final on the Weekend of July 31st Aug 1st
So two huge games ahead for both teams
Quote from: Rossfan on July 13, 2010, 06:05:10 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 12, 2010, 11:54:42 PM
Roscommon's physicality is a lazy myth. They havent been physical for years. Sligo are muuch the harder outfit in this regard.
I dont know why this myth persists at all.
Was talking to a Cyaaaavan man today and he was on about " Ye'd have a good big team I suppose".
Anything but .
Hopefully White will protect our ladeens from the expected physical onslaught by the Sligos.
Throw back to the likes of Earley (RIP), Lindsay, Keegan etc in 70/80s. In 90/91 you had the likes of Doorey, Killoran, Newton etc and then the 01 side had Grehan, Fergie, O'Neill, Dineen etc. So most of the successful Ross sides had big tough men I guess but those days are well gone now.
Quote from: ross matt on July 13, 2010, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 13, 2010, 06:05:10 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 12, 2010, 11:54:42 PM
Roscommon's physicality is a lazy myth. They havent been physical for years. Sligo are muuch the harder outfit in this regard.
I dont know why this myth persists at all.
Was talking to a Cyaaaavan man today and he was on about " Ye'd have a good big team I suppose".
Anything but .
Hopefully White will protect our ladeens from the expected physical onslaught by the Sligos.
Throw back to the likes of Earley (RIP), Lindsay, Keegan etc in 70/80s. In 90/91 you had the likes of Doorey, Killoran, Newton etc and then the 01 side had Grehan, Fergie, O'Neill, Dineen etc. So most of the successful Ross sides had big tough men I guess but those days are well gone now.
Thats very true Matt, I'd say it could even be a throw back to earlier times when Ros had the likes of Eamonn Boland and Gerry O'Malley. Those were the days when agricultural labour developed big strong men.
Today it's about weights work, proper diet etc. You look at the physicality of the Cork team which is not far off what would be expected of an allireland league rugby team. We don't have much other sports to bounce off in Ros so we seem to be a bit slow in terms of developing players who have the phyiscality, combined with the mobility, to compete at the highest level.
Sligo, from what I have seen, would appear to be a couple of years ahead of us in terms of strength and conditioning.
Looking forward to this one. Got my tickets this morning. Last Sligo/Ros game I was at was one of the most enjoyable games I ve ever attended anyway - but there is no Cake this time around.
If we win the minor it ll be a great day anyway. To be honest I m glad our seniors are gone. They have been a pain in the hole the last few years and are best out of sight and out of mind until they decide to get their act together and decide that they re a football team.
Best of luck to both senior teams. Roscommon have to be given a puncher's chance. The abject form of Mayo and Galway in recent weeks does put a doubt over their achievements in the championship so far.
Ross certainly have a puncher's chance. Sligo are the quality of Connacht this year but goals are quare men in Gaelic games. Spot of direct football, chaos in the square, a good goal and a handy one, Shine keeping the scoreboard ticking over - I'll tell you, stranger things have happened.
Who's the ref?
Quote
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Sunday 18th July 2010
Venue: MacHale Park, Castlebar
Minor:
Galway vs. Mayo
Referee: Declan Hunt, (Roscommon).
Throw In: 1.30pm
Senior:
Sligo vs. Roscommon
Referee: Jimmy White, (Donegal).
Throw In: 4pm
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10 with valid ID at designated stile.
Tickets can be sourced from;
Connacht GAA Office
Address: Clare Street, Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo
Ph: (094) 9630335
Email: reception.connacht@gaa.ie
www.connachtgaa.ie
Sligo County Board
address: Sligo GAA Office, Humbert Street, Tubbercurry, Co. Sligo.
email: administrator.sligo@gaa.ie
phone: 071-9120632
www.sligogaa.ie
Roscommon County Board
address: 5-6 Castle View, Roscommon
email: administrator.roscommon@gaa.ie
phone: (090) 6627176
www.gaaroscommon.ie
Galway County Board
address: Pearse Stadium, Salthill, Galway.
email: administrator.galway@gaa.ie
phone: 091)862500
www.galwaygaa.ie
Mayo County Board
Address: McHale Park, Castlebar, Co. Mayo.
Email secretary.mayo@gaa.ie
Office number: 094-9543035
www.mayogaa.com
Tickets also available from clubs in the competing counties.
Tickets can also be sourced from www.ticketmaster.ie
Tickets will also be on sale at selected Supervalu outlets in the competing counties, details to be posted on the website on Wednesday 7th July.
http://www.connachtgaa.ie/news.php?storyid=442&s=rss&cat=5
tickets not available from ticketmaster.ie hardly sold out ??
It won't be sold out. I think Castlebar holds well over 30,000 and it would amaze me if there are over 20,000 at it. Depends how many locals go to support their minors. There will hardly be 300 Galway supporters.
guaranteed not to be sold out but why ticketmaster have none left/ for sale is strange
mchale holds about the 40,000 mark which i think will never be got
Ros team ...no changes on first 15, Fintan on bench --
Geoffrey Claffey Caisléan Riabhach
Sean McDermott Gaeil an Iarthair
Peter Domican (C) Naomh Bríd
Stephen Ormsby Naomh Faithleach
Sean Purcell Mainistir na Buile
Cathal Dineen Caisléan Riabhach
David Casey Mainistir na Buile
Michael Finneran Naomh Dominic
Karol Mannion Naomh Bríd
David Keenan Naomh Bearraí
Paul Garvey Cill Mór
Cathal Cregg Gaeil an Iarthair
John Rogers Beal na Buillí
Donal Shine Clann na nGael
Ger Heneghan Caisléan Riabhach
Mark Miley Naomh Dominic
John Dunning Clann na nGael
David OGara Gaeil Ros Comáin
Kevin Higgins Gaeil an Iarthair
John Nolan Gaeil Ros Comáin
Ian Kilbride Naomh Bríd
Ronan Brady Ail Finn
Terence Kelly Naomh Aodhán
Enda Kenny Caisléan Riabhach
Martin Reynolds Naomh Faithleach
Darragh Hussey Naomh Faithleach
Colm Garvey Cill Mór
Diarmuid Carney Cill Mór
Cathal Shine Clann na nGael
Fintan Cregg Ail Finn
Bainisteoir: FergalO'Donnell
Roghnóirí: StephenBohan, Mark Dowd, Declan Hoare.
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 14, 2010, 11:15:33 AM
It won't be sold out. I think Castlebar holds well over 30,000 and it would amaze me if there are over 20,000 at it. Depends how many locals go to support their minors. There will hardly be 300 Galway supporters.
I think its 42,000 All-Seater. They where going to add another 3,000-4,000 to the back of the Albany Stand, they certainly won't need that for a long time.
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 10:06:53 AM
Quote
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Sunday 18th July 2010
Venue: MacHale Park, Castlebar
Minor:
Galway vs. Mayo
Referee: Declan Hunt, (Roscommon).
Throw In: 1.30pm
Senior:
Sligo vs. Roscommon
Referee: Jimmy White, (Donegal).
Throw In: 4pm
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10 with valid ID at designated stile.
Tickets can be sourced from;
Connacht GAA Office
Address: Clare Street, Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo
Ph: (094) 9630335
Email: reception.connacht@gaa.ie
www.connachtgaa.ie
Sligo County Board
address: Sligo GAA Office, Humbert Street, Tubbercurry, Co. Sligo.
email: administrator.sligo@gaa.ie
phone: 071-9120632
www.sligogaa.ie
Roscommon County Board
address: 5-6 Castle View, Roscommon
email: administrator.roscommon@gaa.ie
phone: (090) 6627176
www.gaaroscommon.ie
Galway County Board
address: Pearse Stadium, Salthill, Galway.
email: administrator.galway@gaa.ie
phone: 091)862500
www.galwaygaa.ie
Mayo County Board
Address: McHale Park, Castlebar, Co. Mayo.
Email secretary.mayo@gaa.ie
Office number: 094-9543035
www.mayogaa.com
Tickets also available from clubs in the competing counties.
Tickets can also be sourced from www.ticketmaster.ie
Tickets will also be on sale at selected Supervalu outlets in the competing counties, details to be posted on the website on Wednesday 7th July.
http://www.connachtgaa.ie/news.php?storyid=442&s=rss&cat=5
Isn't that the guy that rode Galway in the Wexford match?
Saying that I would prefer an outside referee for the minor match. Mr. Hunt looked very biased in a game with a Mayo team I witnessed earlier this year.
Quote from: moysider on July 14, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 10:06:53 AM
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Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Sunday 18th July 2010
Venue: MacHale Park, Castlebar
Minor:
Galway vs. Mayo
Referee: Declan Hunt, (Roscommon).
Throw In: 1.30pm
Senior:
Sligo vs. Roscommon
Referee: Jimmy White, (Donegal).
Throw In: 4pm
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10 with valid ID at designated stile.
Tickets can be sourced from;
Connacht GAA Office
Address: Clare Street, Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo
Ph: (094) 9630335
Email: reception.connacht@gaa.ie
www.connachtgaa.ie
Sligo County Board
address: Sligo GAA Office, Humbert Street, Tubbercurry, Co. Sligo.
email: administrator.sligo@gaa.ie
phone: 071-9120632
www.sligogaa.ie
Roscommon County Board
address: 5-6 Castle View, Roscommon
email: administrator.roscommon@gaa.ie
phone: (090) 6627176
www.gaaroscommon.ie
Galway County Board
address: Pearse Stadium, Salthill, Galway.
email: administrator.galway@gaa.ie
phone: 091)862500
www.galwaygaa.ie
Mayo County Board
Address: McHale Park, Castlebar, Co. Mayo.
Email secretary.mayo@gaa.ie
Office number: 094-9543035
www.mayogaa.com
Tickets also available from clubs in the competing counties.
Tickets can also be sourced from www.ticketmaster.ie
Tickets will also be on sale at selected Supervalu outlets in the competing counties, details to be posted on the website on Wednesday 7th July.
http://www.connachtgaa.ie/news.php?storyid=442&s=rss&cat=5
Isn't that the guy that rode Galway in the Wexford match?
And the same guy who rode Sligo in the mayo match, just aswell we were about ten points better than ye to compensate for it.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 14, 2010, 02:00:07 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 14, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 10:06:53 AM
Quote
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Sunday 18th July 2010
Venue: MacHale Park, Castlebar
Minor:
Galway vs. Mayo
Referee: Declan Hunt, (Roscommon).
Throw In: 1.30pm
Senior:
Sligo vs. Roscommon
Referee: Jimmy White, (Donegal).
Throw In: 4pm
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10 with valid ID at designated stile.
Tickets can be sourced from;
Connacht GAA Office
Address: Clare Street, Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo
Ph: (094) 9630335
Email: reception.connacht@gaa.ie
www.connachtgaa.ie
Sligo County Board
address: Sligo GAA Office, Humbert Street, Tubbercurry, Co. Sligo.
email: administrator.sligo@gaa.ie
phone: 071-9120632
www.sligogaa.ie
Roscommon County Board
address: 5-6 Castle View, Roscommon
email: administrator.roscommon@gaa.ie
phone: (090) 6627176
www.gaaroscommon.ie
Galway County Board
address: Pearse Stadium, Salthill, Galway.
email: administrator.galway@gaa.ie
phone: 091)862500
www.galwaygaa.ie
Mayo County Board
Address: McHale Park, Castlebar, Co. Mayo.
Email secretary.mayo@gaa.ie
Office number: 094-9543035
www.mayogaa.com
Tickets also available from clubs in the competing counties.
Tickets can also be sourced from www.ticketmaster.ie
Tickets will also be on sale at selected Supervalu outlets in the competing counties, details to be posted on the website on Wednesday 7th July.
http://www.connachtgaa.ie/news.php?storyid=442&s=rss&cat=5
Isn't that the guy that rode Galway in the Wexford match?
And the same guy who rode Sligo in the mayo match, just aswell we were about ten points better than ye to compensate for it.
Really? Honestly can't remember much except we were muck and ye should have won by a lot more.
Quote from: moysider on July 14, 2010, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 14, 2010, 02:00:07 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 14, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 10:06:53 AM
Quote
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Sunday 18th July 2010
Venue: MacHale Park, Castlebar
Minor:
Galway vs. Mayo
Referee: Declan Hunt, (Roscommon).
Throw In: 1.30pm
Senior:
Sligo vs. Roscommon
Referee: Jimmy White, (Donegal).
Throw In: 4pm
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10 with valid ID at designated stile.
Tickets can be sourced from;
Connacht GAA Office
Address: Clare Street, Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo
Ph: (094) 9630335
Email: reception.connacht@gaa.ie
www.connachtgaa.ie
Sligo County Board
address: Sligo GAA Office, Humbert Street, Tubbercurry, Co. Sligo.
email: administrator.sligo@gaa.ie
phone: 071-9120632
www.sligogaa.ie
Roscommon County Board
address: 5-6 Castle View, Roscommon
email: administrator.roscommon@gaa.ie
phone: (090) 6627176
www.gaaroscommon.ie
Galway County Board
address: Pearse Stadium, Salthill, Galway.
email: administrator.galway@gaa.ie
phone: 091)862500
www.galwaygaa.ie
Mayo County Board
Address: McHale Park, Castlebar, Co. Mayo.
Email secretary.mayo@gaa.ie
Office number: 094-9543035
www.mayogaa.com
Tickets also available from clubs in the competing counties.
Tickets can also be sourced from www.ticketmaster.ie
Tickets will also be on sale at selected Supervalu outlets in the competing counties, details to be posted on the website on Wednesday 7th July.
http://www.connachtgaa.ie/news.php?storyid=442&s=rss&cat=5
Isn't that the guy that rode Galway in the Wexford match?
And the same guy who rode Sligo in the mayo match, just aswell we were about ten points better than ye to compensate for it.
Really? Honestly can't remember much except we were muck and ye should have won by a lot more.
The Sligo lads got the ride, great day out for the Yeats County so.
Quote from: moysider on July 14, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 10:06:53 AM
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Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Sunday 18th July 2010
Venue: MacHale Park, Castlebar
Minor:
Galway vs. Mayo
Referee: Declan Hunt, (Roscommon).
Throw In: 1.30pm
Senior:
Sligo vs. Roscommon
Referee: Jimmy White, (Donegal).
Throw In: 4pm
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10 with valid ID at designated stile.
Tickets can be sourced from;
Connacht GAA Office
Address: Clare Street, Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo
Ph: (094) 9630335
Email: reception.connacht@gaa.ie
www.connachtgaa.ie
Sligo County Board
address: Sligo GAA Office, Humbert Street, Tubbercurry, Co. Sligo.
email: administrator.sligo@gaa.ie
phone: 071-9120632
www.sligogaa.ie
Roscommon County Board
address: 5-6 Castle View, Roscommon
email: administrator.roscommon@gaa.ie
phone: (090) 6627176
www.gaaroscommon.ie
Galway County Board
address: Pearse Stadium, Salthill, Galway.
email: administrator.galway@gaa.ie
phone: 091)862500
www.galwaygaa.ie
Mayo County Board
Address: McHale Park, Castlebar, Co. Mayo.
Email secretary.mayo@gaa.ie
Office number: 094-9543035
www.mayogaa.com
Tickets also available from clubs in the competing counties.
Tickets can also be sourced from www.ticketmaster.ie
Tickets will also be on sale at selected Supervalu outlets in the competing counties, details to be posted on the website on Wednesday 7th July.
http://www.connachtgaa.ie/news.php?storyid=442&s=rss&cat=5
Isn't that the guy that rode Galway in the Wexford match?
Saying that I would prefer an outside referee for the minor match. Mr. Hunt looked very biased in a game with a Mayo team I witnessed earlier this year.
just as well jimmy white is a famous snooker player cos God knows how the rossies would come out of the dressing rooms if he was a pool player
Ouch!
The next guy that uses the Quote spuds originally posted is gonna get a good kick up the arse
No Kilbride on the bench is a major boost to Sligo as he would have scored 4/5 from play, lack of scoring forwards & sticking with the same midfield pairing a major worry, we will have to score a couple of goals just to make a game of it
kilbride a big loss did IIRC he was an injury worry before Mayo game last year too but played ?
whats the story will seamie o neill ?
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 04:03:26 PM
kilbride a big loss did IIRC he was an injury worry before Mayo game last year too but played ?
whats the story will seamie o neill ?
Kilbride was selected to play v mayo last year but pulled out injured before the game.. Cathal McHugh took his place & missed two great goal chances! only 7 of this team started the game in Castlebar last year
O' Neill is two stone heavier.. still plays for his club where he struggles to beat the average pub/club player big fall from grace for a player that once dominated the like Dara O'Shea & Kevin Walsh in Midfield
not too sure about him dominating them bucks he started off his career with promise whiles still 19 ? never came near realising the expectation
rem him playing in bursts agin us few times but getting frustrated and lashing out as game passed him by
pity never matured into a more considered player as got older would be great help to current crop of buckeens
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 14, 2010, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 14, 2010, 11:15:33 AM
It won't be sold out. I think Castlebar holds well over 30,000 and it would amaze me if there are over 20,000 at it. Depends how many locals go to support their minors. There will hardly be 300 Galway supporters.
I think its 42,000 All-Seater. They where going to add another 3,000-4,000 to the back of the Albany Stand, they certainly won't need that for a long time.
I would say the new McHale park is closer to 35/37,000 maybe 42,000 if they add the extra seats like your talking about?
St tiernach park Clones is about the same size as Mchale park today & similar towns to get out of after a big game
Quote from: ross4life on July 14, 2010, 07:28:18 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 14, 2010, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 14, 2010, 11:15:33 AM
It won't be sold out. I think Castlebar holds well over 30,000 and it would amaze me if there are over 20,000 at it. Depends how many locals go to support their minors. There will hardly be 300 Galway supporters.
I think its 42,000 All-Seater. They where going to add another 3,000-4,000 to the back of the Albany Stand, they certainly won't need that for a long time.
I would say the new McHale park is closer to 35/37,000 maybe 42,000 if they add the extra seats like your talking about?
St tiernach park Clones is about the same size as Mchale park today & similar towns to get out of after a big game
You might be right ross4life but I think the new stand increased the capacity too.
(http://www.castlebar.ie/cbrmaptl.gif)
This might help you ross4life , on the map above the road directly above the road marked Moneen Rd. is the Swinford(Dublin) Rd. That is the road you will probably come into Castlebar by, do you see above it there is a road labelled Fortfield, if you park on this road you can get out to the main road at the driving range without getting caught with all the traffic that builds up at the roundabout.
An alternative is turning off at Turlough (where the National Museum of Country Life and a Big Garden Centre is located, you will notice it by the Church of Ireland on the mainroad and a Roundtower to the left), take the Turlough road into Castlebar and park that side of town and walk across (10-15 mins) Castlebar is very easy to get in and out of it if you know the town.
If you are approaching from the Tuam road, do not take the road towards McHale Park @ Kilkenny Cross which is the roundabout where Breaffy village meets Castlebar town proper, take the left road in past Woodys/Harvey Norman etc. where the old airport was, park that side and walk across, its only 5 mins. For the Galways/South Mayos, if the Ballinrobe road suits you park the Galway side of the railway bridge, it will reduce the traffic on the Rossies, Sligos and rest of Mayo and will get you out of town faster.
Castlebar is a really easy town to get around and get out of, if you don't all just pile onto one roundabout together.
You seem to be replying to "Rossfan" but using my quote ??? i lived in Castlebar for 6 years & well know how to get in & out of the town 30,000 plus make's a difference regardless which road you take
Quote from: ross4life on July 14, 2010, 08:34:55 PM
You seem to be replying to "Rossfan" but using my quote ??? i lived in Castlebar for 6 years & well know how to get in & out of the town 30,000 plus make's a difference regardless which road you take
Sorry ross4life, a well it might help someone else. I never have any trouble getting in and out of McHale, then again, I'm at home already.
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 14, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 10:06:53 AM
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Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Sunday 18th July 2010
Venue: MacHale Park, Castlebar
Minor:
Galway vs. Mayo
Referee: Declan Hunt, (Roscommon).
Throw In: 1.30pm
Senior:
Sligo vs. Roscommon
Referee: Jimmy White, (Donegal).
Throw In: 4pm
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10 with valid ID at designated stile.
Tickets can be sourced from;
Connacht GAA Office
Address: Clare Street, Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo
Ph: (094) 9630335
Email: reception.connacht@gaa.ie
www.connachtgaa.ie
Sligo County Board
address: Sligo GAA Office, Humbert Street, Tubbercurry, Co. Sligo.
email: administrator.sligo@gaa.ie
phone: 071-9120632
www.sligogaa.ie
Roscommon County Board
address: 5-6 Castle View, Roscommon
email: administrator.roscommon@gaa.ie
phone: (090) 6627176
www.gaaroscommon.ie
Galway County Board
address: Pearse Stadium, Salthill, Galway.
email: administrator.galway@gaa.ie
phone: 091)862500
www.galwaygaa.ie
Mayo County Board
Address: McHale Park, Castlebar, Co. Mayo.
Email secretary.mayo@gaa.ie
Office number: 094-9543035
www.mayogaa.com
Tickets also available from clubs in the competing counties.
Tickets can also be sourced from www.ticketmaster.ie
Tickets will also be on sale at selected Supervalu outlets in the competing counties, details to be posted on the website on Wednesday 7th July.
http://www.connachtgaa.ie/news.php?storyid=442&s=rss&cat=5
Isn't that the guy that rode Galway in the Wexford match?
Saying that I would prefer an outside referee for the minor match. Mr. Hunt looked very biased in a game with a Mayo team I witnessed earlier this year.
just as well jimmy white is a famous snooker player cos God knows how the rossies would come out of the dressing rooms if he was a pool player
Quote from: ross4life on July 14, 2010, 03:58:23 PM
The next guy that uses the Quote spuds originally posted is gonna get a good kick up the arse
Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough ;D
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 15, 2010, 12:31:54 AM
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 14, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 10:06:53 AM
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Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Connacht Football Championship Final 2010
Sunday 18th July 2010
Venue: MacHale Park, Castlebar
Minor:
Galway vs. Mayo
Referee: Declan Hunt, (Roscommon).
Throw In: 1.30pm
Senior:
Sligo vs. Roscommon
Referee: Jimmy White, (Donegal).
Throw In: 4pm
Ticket Prices:
Stand- €35
Sideline seating- €25
Children €5 (Under 16)
Students and OAP's can get refund of €10 with valid ID at designated stile.
Tickets can be sourced from;
Connacht GAA Office
Address: Clare Street, Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo
Ph: (094) 9630335
Email: reception.connacht@gaa.ie
www.connachtgaa.ie
Sligo County Board
address: Sligo GAA Office, Humbert Street, Tubbercurry, Co. Sligo.
email: administrator.sligo@gaa.ie
phone: 071-9120632
www.sligogaa.ie
Roscommon County Board
address: 5-6 Castle View, Roscommon
email: administrator.roscommon@gaa.ie
phone: (090) 6627176
www.gaaroscommon.ie
Galway County Board
address: Pearse Stadium, Salthill, Galway.
email: administrator.galway@gaa.ie
phone: 091)862500
www.galwaygaa.ie
Mayo County Board
Address: McHale Park, Castlebar, Co. Mayo.
Email secretary.mayo@gaa.ie
Office number: 094-9543035
www.mayogaa.com
Tickets also available from clubs in the competing counties.
Tickets can also be sourced from www.ticketmaster.ie
Tickets will also be on sale at selected Supervalu outlets in the competing counties, details to be posted on the website on Wednesday 7th July.
http://www.connachtgaa.ie/news.php?storyid=442&s=rss&cat=5
Isn't that the guy that rode Galway in the Wexford match?
Saying that I would prefer an outside referee for the minor match. Mr. Hunt looked very biased in a game with a Mayo team I witnessed earlier this year.
just as well jimmy white is a famous snooker player cos God knows how the rossies would come out of the dressing rooms if he was a pool player
Quote from: ross4life on July 14, 2010, 03:58:23 PM
The next guy that uses the Quote spuds originally posted is gonna get a good kick up the arse
Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough ;D
You'll get a box off him for that.
Be careful what you ask for... redandgreensniper ;)
Sunday is for sure Historic final
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_in_Ireland (some interesting birth's)
1947 also had historic final, Polo Grounds, New York where Cavan beat Kerry in the All Ireland final
* Edit you Mayo boyos are trying to get me to lose my composure :-*
Quote from: ross4life on July 14, 2010, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 04:03:26 PM
kilbride a big loss did IIRC he was an injury worry before Mayo game last year too but played ?
whats the story will seamie o neill ?
Kilbride was selected to play v mayo last year but pulled out injured before the game.. Cathal McHugh took his place & missed two great goal chances! only 7 of this team started the game in Castlebar last year
O' Neill is two stone heavier.. still plays for his club where he struggles to beat the average pub/club player big fall from grace for a player that once dominated the like Dara O'Shea & Kevin Walsh in Midfield
The greatest display of fielding i ever witnessed was by O'Neill against Galway in 2001 including a spectacular one handed catch.
He should still be involved with Roscommon - i have seen Finneran playing a few times and he doesn't impress. Roscommon seem to have dispensed with the services of too many of their experienced players over the last number of years. There are not many retained from the last time Sligo met Roscommon in 2007.
I ve never been so unfamiliar with a Ros team - ever. Ok I recognise most of the names but I can only put a face on a few of them.
Quote from: Mano on July 15, 2010, 01:38:59 PM
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He should still be involved with Roscommon - i have seen Finneran playing a few times and he doesn't impress. Roscommon seem to have dispensed with the services of too many of their experienced players over the last number of years. There are not many retained from the last time Sligo met Roscommon in 2007.
Seamie wasnt in a position to commit to Ros this year as opposed to dispensing with his services.
Our problem is we have so few decent players in the 23-30 age group which backbones most teams.
A legacy from some awful under age teams in the early years of the century who got some awful hammerings from Galway and Mwr.
Finneran and Dineen are not County players, McDermott is not a defender, Casey is a wreck, Heneghan is Heneghan ::), Cregg ...the County awaits ,Rogers is middlin, Purcell isnt really a defender so you're down to the 5 off the 2006 minors plus Mannion.
Jasus re reading that looks like we're in for a shockin batin. :-[
Quote from: Mano on July 15, 2010, 01:38:59 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 14, 2010, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 14, 2010, 04:03:26 PM
kilbride a big loss did IIRC he was an injury worry before Mayo game last year too but played ?
whats the story will seamie o neill ?
Kilbride was selected to play v mayo last year but pulled out injured before the game.. Cathal McHugh took his place & missed two great goal chances! only 7 of this team started the game in Castlebar last year
O' Neill is two stone heavier.. still plays for his club where he struggles to beat the average pub/club player big fall from grace for a player that once dominated the like Dara O'Shea & Kevin Walsh in Midfield
The greatest display of fielding i ever witnessed was by O'Neill against Galway in 2001 including a spectacular one handed catch.
He should still be involved with Roscommon - i have seen Finneran playing a few times and he doesn't impress. Roscommon seem to have dispensed with the services of too many of their experienced players over the last number of years. There are not many retained from the last time Sligo met Roscommon in 2007.
Agree Mano. The one handed catch in particular was one of the most spectacular fetches I've ever seen on a GAA pitch. He also kicked 2 points from long distance in every one of those championship matches that year. Powerfully strong which he went out to prove too often by holding on to the ball so that opponents could hop off him. If he stuck to catching and kicking he would have been unbeatable. He's only 28. Sad that he's not out there Sunday in a Connacht Final but just faded away these last few years.
Seems with Roscommon players once you reach mid 20s your finished, Frankie Dolan, O' Neill, Grehan, the Three Lohan's all gone by 26/27 if these guys where Sligo/leitrim men they would have played longer
I can't understand why we have to make 7/8 changes to the team every year? how do you expect to have a settled team if this happens
The like's Peter Domican, Stephen Ormsby,David Keenan, Paul Garvey, Cathal Gregg,Donal Shine,David O' Gara, Kevin Higgins,Cathal Shine are all 23 or under
Most of these players won't peak for another 2/3 years... E.G David Kelly at 20 is a different player today at 24
Bump!
Connacht Final thread gone off the first page, not good!
If we were in it, that wouldn't happen, we could never be accussed of talking a bad game!
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 15, 2010, 11:38:19 PM
Bump!
Connacht Final thread gone off the first page, not good!
If we were in it, that wouldn't happen, we could never be accussed of talking a bad game!
Rossfan & myself are trying our best to keep this thread going as Sligonian has gone AWOL :P
Quote from: ross4life on July 16, 2010, 12:04:19 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 15, 2010, 11:38:19 PM
Bump!
Connacht Final thread gone off the first page, not good!
If we were in it, that wouldn't happen, we could never be accussed of talking a bad game!
Rossfan & myself are trying our best to keep this thread going as Sligonian has gone AWOL :P
Think he's in the depths of Tyrone trying to hunt down Martin Sludden!
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 15, 2010, 11:38:19 PM
Bump!
Connacht Final thread gone off the first page, not good!
If we were in it, that wouldn't happen, we could never be accussed of talking a bad game!
Maybe so Sniper, but I'm glad we're not in it. We have been a mess since 06 and we are as well out of it. Hopefully by championship 2011 we will have a team.
I'm looking forward to this one, and would have attended even if our minors weren't playing. This is our provincal final and they are a big deal as far as I am concerned. I think one thing the Battle of the Boyne showed the last day is that provincial titles still do matter - especially if teams don't (like Louth) win them often. This game can do Ros a lot of good if they can be thereabouts. You can't rule out a Ros win but Sligo have to be ruthless. The likes of Sloyane, Taylor and O Hara know that Sligo are the best in the West right now and know they must win when they are on top. They have dispatched Mayo and Galway and should have easier. They cant afford to give up this opportunity. I mean 2 Connachts in 4 years would be the best we ve ever seen from Sligo. They probably should have won at least 1 more the last 10 years in what has probably been the best period for Sligo football since the early 70s. The future for Sligo looks bright with good underage coming through. But there are no wins guaranteed for all that. As most counties discover, some warriors only come along once in a lifetime. Eamonn O Hara is one of those. He will be hard replaced. Sligo need to win as much as they can while he is around. I d put him in the top few influential players that I ve seen in any team.
Sligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
Quote from: moysider on July 16, 2010, 12:37:26 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 15, 2010, 11:38:19 PM
Bump!
Connacht Final thread gone off the first page, not good!
If we were in it, that wouldn't happen, we could never be accussed of talking a bad game!
Maybe so Sniper, but I'm glad we're not in it. We have been a mess since 06 and we are as well out of it. Hopefully by championship 2011 we will have a team.
I'm looking forward to this one, and would have attended even if our minors weren't playing. This is our provincal final and they are a big deal as far as I am concerned. I think one thing the Battle of the Boyne showed the last day is that provincial titles still do matter - especially if teams don't (like Louth) win them often. This game can do Ros a lot of good if they can be thereabouts. You can't rule out a Ros win but Sligo have to be ruthless. The likes of Sloyane, Taylor and O Hara know that Sligo are the best in the West right now and know they must win when they are on top. They have dispatched Mayo and Galway and should have easier. They cant afford to give up this opportunity. I mean 2 Connachts in 4 years would be the best we ve ever seen from Sligo. They probably should have won at least 1 more the last 10 years in what has probably been the best period for Sligo football since the early 70s. The future for Sligo looks bright with good underage coming through. But there are no wins guaranteed for all that. As most counties discover, some warriors only come along once in a lifetime. Eamonn O Hara is one of those. He will be hard replaced. Sligo need to win as much as they can while he is around. I d put him in the top few influential players that I ve seen in any team.
Yeah that would be my take on this match also and its a good assessment of Sligo except to say they're not as dependant on O'Hara as they used to be. Much more balanced than they were in '07. Pity the final has'nt gotten more media coverage. Todays indo was poor. The Leinster final saga definitely over shadowed it during the week. I think it will be an open refreshing match. I certainly hope so anyway. Sadly though Sligo by at least 4 but hopefully some honour and hope for the qualifiers for Ross.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
Sligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
I hope it stays fine for ya Sligonian. Pride before a fall and all that. You'd imagine decades in the doldrums woud have given you a bit more class and humility. Anyway enjoy the gloating. What comes around goes around and thats double for you.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
Still awaiting your reply over on stolensheep, is there such a thing as "knowing your going to win"
Once you choose hope, anything's possible
Quote from: ross4life on July 16, 2010, 01:28:59 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
Still awaiting your reply over on stolensheep, is there such a thing as "knowing your going to win"
Once you choose hope, anything's possible
Ya ross4life we knew we where going to win against Kerry in the 1997 All-Ireland Final ;)
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 16, 2010, 01:31:44 AM
Quote from: ross4life on July 16, 2010, 01:28:59 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
Still awaiting your reply over on stolensheep, is there such a thing as "knowing your going to win"
Once you choose hope, anything's possible
Ya ross4life we knew we where going to win against Kerry in the 1997 All-Ireland Final ;)
:D i bet.. if football was that predictable i know i for one wouldn't be following it
Sligonian
QuoteSligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
That is officially the team also, although Davey will weare 7 and Cawley 5 and Taylor 8 and Gilmartin 9. Go n-eiridh an bothar leo go leir
Never when mayo were beating us in an out of the gates in hyde or mchale did i encounter such arrogance or cockiness as that that sprouts from sligonian.Your attempt to turn sligo in to the meath of connacht is right on track
Good luck to both teams on Sunday.
Although the game hasn't featured prominently in the national focus it is a very novel and exciting day for Connacht football. Of course as a Mayo fan I will be sickened to be sitting on the sidelines with no active interest when Jimmy White sets the lads off looking for the Nestor Cup (the 147 of Connacht football).
Sligo have shown the form, and are tested coming into the game. They have also had two testing matches since the last game for Ros. However I do think the Rossies have been building up all year to give the Connacht Final a seriously good rattle. They will not fear Sligo in the slightest and will have a confidence of winning the game which may not have been there playing Mayo or Galway. It should be a tight game.
The interesting thing is to see how the two teams will do in the weeks after. The suspicion has to be that although the Connacht Championship this year has been very exciting the standard is low. Mayo and Galway were pathetic. Sligo were much better than Galway on day 1 but crawled over the line on day 2. They still only beat a diabolical Mayo by 4 points and a decent 10 minutes by Mayo in the second half could have changed that outcome.
I suppose we'll know soon enough!
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
:D
Hope we get a good competitive game - the experience should stand our young lads in good stead for the future.
Quote from: spectator on July 16, 2010, 09:02:01 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
:D
Hope we get a good competitive game - the experience should stand our young lads in good stead for the future.
Well at least you didnt fall for it :D
No one knows the future, sure ive been saying that for yrs, i certainly cant say with certainty who will win. Lots of things are possible. But i do think its in our hands, if we play to our potential and start the game with a high intensity we will win.
Best of Luck to Sligo.
Apparently 10500 tickets sold as of yesterday in Sligo.
Sligonian is a confident sort but i think most other Sligo supporters are more grounded and realistic. On paper we have an excellent chance of winning having already taken care of both Galway and Mayo. There lies the issues facing Sligo - having already played 3 tough hard championship games can we now raise our game again against a supposed lesser team.
As for Ross are they as poor as their own supporters are making out. The league position would suggest so however with exception of first league and last league (where they were missing many players) they won 1 game against the rightful Leinster champions and lost every other game by 1 or 2 points. Ross also won the 2 championship games they played only raising their game in second half of the Leitrim match.
Based on the above i would hope that Sligo have approached this game in the right manner and don't take Roscommon for granted. Hopefully Sligo have been forewarned by the performances on supposed weaker teams in the last fortnight (Louth, Limerick, Wexford) and play with the same intensity and passion as the Mayo and Galway performances. If we do that we should cross the line as winners, if we don't and Roscommon outbattle us then it could go either way.
Quote from: Mano on July 16, 2010, 11:20:52 AM
Sligonian is a confident sort but i think most other Sligo supporters are more grounded and realistic. On paper we have an excellent chance of winning having already taken care of both Galway and Mayo. There lies the issues facing Sligo - having already played 3 tough hard championship games can we now raise our game again against a supposed lesser team.
As for Ross are they as poor as their own supporters are making out. The league position would suggest so however with exception of first league and last league (where they were missing many players) they won 1 game against the rightful Leinster champions and lost every other game by 1 or 2 points. Ross also won the 2 championship games they played only raising their game in second half of the Leitrim match.
Based on the above i would hope that Sligo have approached this game in the right manner and don't take Roscommon for granted. Hopefully Sligo have been forewarned by the performances on supposed weaker teams in the last fortnight (Louth, Limerick, Wexford) and play with the same intensity and passion as the Mayo and Galway performances. If we do that we should cross the line as winners, if we don't and Roscommon outbattle us then it could go either way.
Your basically echoing my sentiments. Look im the same as always, no matter who we play i'll go in thinking we will win. I am as confident of beating of Roscommon as I was of beating Mayo and Galway. I never once said its going to easy and that we will hammer them, ive been relaistic, i cant see Roscommon rolling over for us. Deep down im nervous and that is out of respect for Roscommon, and the chance our lads would be complacent and the ref.
Mano id take your point on playing 3 championship matches if we hadnt enough time to recupurate but its been 2 weeks since the Galway replay, the lads on a roll since march, are in a serious habit of winning. Surely we can lift it again for a Connacht final.
Sligo have something like 6 Connacht titles. Hardly the Meath of connacht. More like the, er, Laois.
Ros seem to come up with a decent team about once every 10 years. Will this year's be the latest version to take its place amongst the teams from 1980, 1991 and 2001 ?
will you be able to buy tickets on the day ? Should be a great atmosphere at the game and if the weather is good i wouldn't might heading up to have a look at what hopefully should be a good entertaining match if i do head up i going to have a go at spotting sligonian ( to see if he is in fact human and not a myth) should be fairly easy i'd say he will be the one sitting calmly down chilling watching the game progress, wont you sligonian ;)
Knowing the set up in Sligo as well as I do I'm sad to say there are no "Sligonian" style attitudes within the panel or management. Arrogance or complacency simply wont be a factor with them. This is a highly efficient and businesslike Sligo side. The only negative for them is possibly fear of failure due to the high expectations/favourites tag etc may cause them to freeze a little. That and maybe the high intensity of their recent matches may have taken its toll in terms of mental tiredness/injury so they may be a little flat.
I'm hoping Fergie will motivate Ross to throw off the shackles and play with a bit of abandon. Young and raw they may be but they've lads with minor and u-21 medals who've faced down and beaten the like of Mayo, Galway, Meath and Kerry during their recent underage career. So there has to be some underlying self belief. If the few older head like Karol Mannion, Casey and Heneghan have a big game we're in with a chance.
However the only way Ross will win is if everything goes right for them on the day and a significant number things go wrong for Sligo. The media coverage has been disgracefully sparse for what is a novel Connacht Final pairing. Here's to a great match!
Quote from: ross matt on July 16, 2010, 02:49:01 PM
Knowing the set up in Sligo as well as I do I'm sad to say there are no "Sligonian" style attitudes within the panel or management. Arrogance or complacency simply wont be a factor with them. This is a highly efficient and businesslike Sligo side. The only negative for them is possibly fear of failure due to the high expectations/favourites tag etc may cause them to freeze a little. That and maybe the high intensity of their recent matches may have taken its toll in terms of mental tiredness/injury so they may be a little flat.
I'm hoping Fergie will motivate Ross to throw off the shackles and play with a bit of abandon. Young and raw they may be but they've lads with minor and u-21 medals who've faced down and beaten the like of Mayo, Galway, Meath and Kerry during their recent underage career. So there has to be some underlying self belief. If the few older head like Karol Mannion, Casey and Heneghan have a big game we're in with a chance.
However the only way Ross will win is if everything goes right for them on the day and a significant number things go wrong for Sligo. The media coverage has been disgracefully sparse for what is a novel Connacht Final pairing. Here's to a great match!
Everyone will be expecting Sligo to win so Ros have nothing to lose. Up Ros.
Quote from: seafoid on July 16, 2010, 02:06:16 PM
Sligo have something like 6 Connacht titles.
They've only 3 1927(or 28) , 1975 and 2007.
Matt sums it up perfectly ...things must go right for us ans wrong for Sligo.
As for the media ...sure it's only Connaht ...you can't expect tem Dublin crowd to be bothered with the likes of us. ::)
Haven't ros got 19? time to shove a bit of weight around ros. WTF are these 3 timers coming in and expecting to win?
Quote from: seafoid on July 16, 2010, 02:06:16 PM
Sligo have something like 6 Connacht titles. Hardly the Meath of connacht. More like the, er, Laois.
Ros seem to come up with a decent team about once every 10 years. Will this year's be the latest version to take its place amongst the teams from 1980, 1991 and 2001 ?
If Sligo win on Sunday it will be 6 Connacht titles (4 Senior, 2 Minor 0 under 21) & we do indeed have a good teams every 10 years but it's only 9 years at the moment :-\
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 16, 2010, 02:35:14 PM
will you be able to buy tickets on the day ? Should be a great atmosphere at the game and if the weather is good i wouldn't might heading up to have a look at what hopefully should be a good entertaining match if i do head up i going to have a go at spotting sligonian ( to see if he is in fact human and not a myth) should be fairly easy i'd say he will be the one sitting calmly down chilling watching the game progress, wont you sligonian ;)
Im real, ask Larnaparka ;), if you want deel rover i'll sign my autograph in your programme. I have a good friend from Crossmolina and all of Sligo know me so not hard to know who am. I dont have any anonomity, as I found out a few weeks ago but kinda already knew that.
Here's a bit of GAA trivia for you.. In what year was the Nestor cup first presented?
Not Sure what the official capacity of Mchale park is but have been told only 10,000 tickets remain for sunday
Yer man the barber in Ross on championship throw-in. :D
Quote from: Jinxy on July 16, 2010, 06:39:53 PM
Yer man the barber in Ross on championship throw-in. :D
ahh the Famous Paddy Joe "the greatest team in the world"
Didnt match his description of the night the minors brought home the All Ireland :D
Quote from: ross4life on July 16, 2010, 05:01:56 PM
Here's a bit of GAA trivia for you.. In what year was the Nestor cup first presented?
1958 - In the middle of Galway's 5 in a row :-\
Anybody know what the cup was before that?
Correct named after former Galway player J.J Nestor not sure what it was called before then?
The capacity of Mchale park is currently 38000.If and when the project is completed and the extra seating is added to the albany end the final capacity will be 42000.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 16, 2010, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 16, 2010, 02:06:16 PM
Sligo have something like 6 Connacht titles.
They've only 3 1927(or 28) , 1975 and 2007.
Matt sums it up perfectly ...things must go right for us ans wrong for Sligo.
As for the media ...sure it's only Connaht ...you can't expect tem Dublin crowd to be bothered with the likes of us. ::)
Fck the Dublin Medja they can lick my salty balls while they promote soccerball on planet Uranus for all I care. Connacht is the Alpha and the Omega, the Shannon is a gift from the Gods to keep the great unwashed out of our Land of Milk and Honey.
Quote from: ross4life on July 16, 2010, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 16, 2010, 02:06:16 PM
Sligo have something like 6 Connacht titles. Hardly the Meath of connacht. More like the, er, Laois.
Ros seem to come up with a decent team about once every 10 years. Will this year's be the latest version to take its place amongst the teams from 1980, 1991 and 2001 ?
If Sligo win on Sunday it will be 6 Connacht titles (4 Senior, 2 Minor 0 under 21) & we do indeed have a good teams every 10 years but it's only 9 years at the moment :-\
A Jazus I farted out 6 titles this morning.
Quote from: Kimbap on July 17, 2010, 02:24:59 AM
The capacity of Mchale park is currently 38000.If and when the project is completed and the extra seating is added to the albany end the final capacity will be 42000.
The 42,000 Capacity is badly needed for BIG National league, FBD League, and Annual single championship game each year. ;)
Quote from: Kimbap on July 17, 2010, 02:24:59 AM
The capacity of Mchale park is currently 38000.If and when the project is completed and the extra seating is added to the albany end the final capacity will be 42000.
So where looking at something like 28,000 for tomorrows game, a decent crowd without the "big two"teams
It's time for this again :D
In the name of the dead generations of Rosmen who fought and died that we might be free of evil monsters Ros summons her gossoons to her righteous cause.
Remember the great heritage ye have inherited.
Let's do it for Queen Maeve,Niall of the 9 hostages, Saints Eithne and Fidelma, St Coman,St Croan,St Faithleach,St Michael,St Ronan,Ned Duffy, The O'Connor kings of Ireland, Douglas Hyde,Percy French,the 42 who died for Ireland and Freedom and of course Uachtarán na hEireann herself.
Remember 43 and 44 and famous days in Castlebar like 52 , 72,79 and 86.
Remember O'Malley,Lindsay,Earley,Tony Mc,Jigger and most of all Harry Keegan. When ye see a Sligoman coming through with the ball ask yourself " What would Harry Keegan do?"
He'd drive man and ball half way to bloody Cliffoney so do the same and ye can win the day.
Slay the evil magpies who will dare to enter the Den of iniquity on Sunday and send them home sadder and wiser to their own dens of iniquity in Gurteen, Geevagh, Ballianafad, Tourlestrane , Drumcliff and even Bellaghy ( for sligonian)
Excellent stuff Rossfan, we need to ruffle the magpie's feathers then the cat will be among the pigeons
Best of luck to Fergal & the boys tomorrow, We have nothing to lose! the time has come to give the loyal/Die-hard Roscommon supporters something to shout about!
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
Sligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
What an absolute clown you are Sligonian. Win a couple of matches, and the arrogance flows like shit out of you. I've seen this with Sligo people before. Give me knowledgeable Gaa people from Mayo and Galway any day.
Quote from: ross matt on July 16, 2010, 02:49:01 PM
Knowing the set up in Sligo as well as I do I'm sad to say there are no "Sligonian" style attitudes within the panel or management. Arrogance or complacency simply wont be a factor with them. This is a highly efficient and businesslike Sligo side. The only negative for them is possibly fear of failure due to the high expectations/favourites tag etc may cause them to freeze a little. That and maybe the high intensity of their recent matches may have taken its toll in terms of mental tiredness/injury so they may be a little flat.
I'm hoping Fergie will motivate Ross to throw off the shackles and play with a bit of abandon. Young and raw they may be but they've lads with minor and u-21 medals who've faced down and beaten the like of Mayo, Galway, Meath and Kerry during their recent underage career. So there has to be some underlying self belief. If the few older head like Karol Mannion, Casey and Heneghan have a big game we're in with a chance.
However the only way Ross will win is if everything goes right for them on the day and a significant number things go wrong for Sligo. The media coverage has been disgracefully sparse for what is a novel Connacht Final pairing. Here's to a great match!
Well said Matt on everything there.
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 17, 2010, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
Sligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
What an absolute clown you are Sligonian. Win a couple of matches, and the arrogance flows like shit out of you. I've seen this with Sligo people before. Give me knowledgeable Gaa people from Mayo and Galway any day.
I thought it was only us Mayo boys Sligonian had it in for.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 17, 2010, 09:50:52 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 17, 2010, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
Sligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
What an absolute clown you are Sligonian. Win a couple of matches, and the arrogance flows like shit out of you. I've seen this with Sligo people before. Give me knowledgeable Gaa people from Mayo and Galway any day.
I thought it was only us Mayo boys Sligonian had it in for.
:D Let the battle commence!!
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 17, 2010, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
Sligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
What an absolute clown you are Sligonian. Win a couple of matches, and the arrogance flows like shit out of you. I've seen this with Sligo people before. Give me knowledgeable Gaa people from Mayo and Galway any day.
Ive seen this behaviour from supporters of all teams in connacht at one time or another. I someone deduce that the bold Sligonian made the statement with tongue firmly in cheek in the hope that someone would fall for the bait - take a bow shrewdness.
I noted from my time in Sligo IT that Mayo people in particular had a penchant for this type of behaviour.
It is a rare phenomenon indeed that would see GAA knowledge confined exclusively to the borders of Mayo and Galway. ::) Maybe Jim Corr might look into that one. Scutter talk if ever I heard it.
Best of luck to Kevin and the lads tomorrow. Hopefully we will be Connacht Champs come 6pm. All i know is that regardless of the result these lads have been a breath of fresh air this year and have played some delightfull football which has been a joy to watch for this supporter. What is rare is beautiful. Up the Magpies!
Quote from: jjjshabadoojnr on July 17, 2010, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 17, 2010, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
Sligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
What an absolute clown you are Sligonian. Win a couple of matches, and the arrogance flows like shit out of you. I've seen this with Sligo people before. Give me knowledgeable Gaa people from Mayo and Galway any day.
Ive seen this behaviour from supporters of all teams in connacht at one time or another. I someone deduce that the bold Sligonian made the statement with tongue firmly in cheek in the hope that someone would fall for the bait - take a bow shrewdness.
I noted from my time in Sligo IT that Mayo people in particular had a penchant for this type of behaviour.
It is a rare phenomenon indeed that would see GAA knowledge confined exclusively to the borders of Mayo and Galway. ::) Maybe Jim Corr might look into that one. Scutter talk if ever I heard it.
Best of luck to Kevin and the lads tomorrow. Hopefully we will be Connacht Champs come 6pm. All i know is that regardless of the result these lads have been a breath of fresh air this year and have played some delightfull football which has been a joy to watch for this supporter. What is rare is beautiful. Up the Magpies!
Actually, if you read back a few pages, you'll see that i wasn't the first person to comment on Sligonian's remarks, so i won't be taking any bow.
Best of luck to the Rossies, and may the spirit of the late great Dermot Earley inspire our team to victory tomorrow.
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 17, 2010, 10:11:34 PM
Quote from: jjjshabadoojnr on July 17, 2010, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 17, 2010, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
Sligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
What an absolute clown you are Sligonian. Win a couple of matches, and the arrogance flows like shit out of you. I've seen this with Sligo people before. Give me knowledgeable Gaa people from Mayo and Galway any day.
Ive seen this behaviour from supporters of all teams in connacht at one time or another. I someone deduce that the bold Sligonian made the statement with tongue firmly in cheek in the hope that someone would fall for the bait - take a bow shrewdness.
I noted from my time in Sligo IT that Mayo people in particular had a penchant for this type of behaviour.
It is a rare phenomenon indeed that would see GAA knowledge confined exclusively to the borders of Mayo and Galway. ::) Maybe Jim Corr might look into that one. Scutter talk if ever I heard it.
Best of luck to Kevin and the lads tomorrow. Hopefully we will be Connacht Champs come 6pm. All i know is that regardless of the result these lads have been a breath of fresh air this year and have played some delightfull football which has been a joy to watch for this supporter. What is rare is beautiful. Up the Magpies!
Actually, if you read back a few pages, you'll see that i wasn't the first person to comment on Sligonian's remarks, so i won't be taking any bow.
Best of luck to the Rossies, and may the spirit of the late great Dermot Earley inspire our team to victory tomorrow.
I said on here and stolensheep my that comment about knowing was a wind up, i could see ye were looking to get offended all week, when i said it would be tight but i expect Sligo to win etc.. im called a arrogant p***k, so i decided to well give ye what ye wanted. We are better than ye and i had to laugh today when on Saturday game, of Derry v Kildare, and mcstay saying 4-1odds for Ros was crazy odds as ros never fear Sligo (even though we have a decent record there) and Flynn saying "now kevin 4-1 odds is accurate, i expect Sligo to win by at least 6pts even if they play mediocre, theres no form with roscommon and there wins over london and leitrim were poor performances"
He is from Meath but if a Sligoman said that heaven forbid. Im excited, im nervous, im expectant, and i trust our lads to do the business. No one knows the future so roscommon have a chance but a slight one at that imo and alot has to go against us and for ye.
Just to add in Roscommon and Sligo reached the Ted webb cup final today at u16 level. Congrats to both, Its a repeat of last yrs final.
Sligo also qualified for the manning cup final against Westmeath at u16. Congrats again.
Hopefully we'll get the right management in place to get some success at underage at u18 and u21, but there is a conveyor belt of talent coming through, i was the u14 A and shieldclub finals and outstanding footballers coming through.
Well lads just back in town from the country, took a while but we managed to secure the uncles sheep at a secret location.
I hear Mayo County Hospital has called in extra Doctors, Nurses and EMTs to treat shock in case of a Sligo defeat.
Driving through the town there, its like the fall of Rome and the Barbarian Hordes have taken camp. Has Sligonian crossed the Rubicon Moy yet?
SLIGONIAN you said what you said... can't back track now, no body believes your BS story that it was a "wind up" on here or on stolensheep
but seeing that you know stuff will happen i shall be getting the lotto numbers off you for next weekend :P
Terrible when people can't conduct themselves with a bit of decorum on Connacht final day. Bloody nouveau riche. ;D
Roscommon were 4-1 going in to the 1998 Connacht Final as well and look what hapened on that occaisson! Roscommon do love to be underdogs and I expect us to push Sligo all the way today. We don't have the forwards to win it though and Kevin Walsh will be well aware of how dangerous Roscommon can be in this situation.
I was impressed by Donovan and Harrison against Galway and I cannot see them giving away the same number of silly frees as Leitrim did against us.
The only way Sligo can lose this game is if Shine gets a few early scores and Sligo panic and pull O'Hara back into defence to play as a sweeper. This might allow us to get some ball in the mid-field area which may lead to us gaining confidence and it could be game on. If Sligo keep it simple and stave us of ball they will win, possibly easily.
Prediction
Sligo 1-14 Roscommon 0-11
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 16, 2010, 04:57:10 PM
Im real, ask Larnaparka ;), if you want deel rover i'll sign my autograph in your programme. I have a good friend from Crossmolina and all of Sligo know me so not hard to know who am. I dont have any anonomity, as I found out a few weeks ago but kinda already knew that.
Oi! Leave Lar outa this.
He is still feeling his ass after the root he got from Hardy on the Meath/Louth thread for daring to suggest that Joe Sheridan could just as easily have been smirking and not smiling when he flashed the gnashers at some Louth players after the game last Sunday.
You see, Lar prefers to know the facts rather than taking assumptions at face value at all times. (Except of course when it suits him not to!)
As you didn't produce your passport or driving licence when you met him, he won't guarantee anything about nothing. Mind you, if you had brought your credit card details along with you, he would have accepted them as proof of your identity. ;)
Seriously, if I were you, I wouldn't crow too much until the game is over. 'Nearly never bulled a cow yet' and all that.
The Rossies won't come along just to make up numbers- they never do.
You'll only know Sligo's true worth when the game is over and not a minute before that.
Yee nearly blew it against Galway in the first game- as yee nearly blew it against the same opposition in the '07 final.
Batin' the pick of Galway and Mayo this year would have been no big deal for any sort of a half-assed team in the land. I've been talking to a number of Sligo heads over the past week or so and they all seem to be falling into the complacency trap.
Yee could find yeerselves walking through the back door before yee know what's happening.
Keep yeer breath to cool yeer soup until the ref blows the final whistle.
(Phew! That's enough of them bloody yees.) ;D
Best of luck to both counties and sets of supporters, will be a big boost for whoever wins. Probably backin Sligo myself seeing as spent many a summer in Enniscrone and cold night down in the showgrounds but would begrudge the Rossies either, they've had to put up with some seriously shite years since 01 (excluding underage success)!
7/2 Ros at the start. Traditionally they have zero fear of Sligo. Evens all the way.
Size, strength and physical power the big difference between the teams. Sligo unable to break the tackles. They'll run out of puff labouring against bigger men. They look in trouble to me.
Is O'Hara playing?
Quote from: Hardy on July 18, 2010, 04:32:12 PM
Size, strength and physical power the big difference between the teams. Sligo unable to break the tackles. They'll run out of puff labouring against bigger men. They look in trouble to me.
Is O'Hara playing?
He's on the field anyhow!
Sligo needed them two last scores to keep them in it. Shine is some act. Ref making some very strange calls on both sides.
Some man out looking for mushrooms and got himself arrested? A Louth man making a protest? Sligo sponsor looking for his money back? Something to do with Paul Galvin?
Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2010, 04:54:49 PM
Who was that balloon on the pitch?
Thats one of our locals. The guy is more then a bit simple. He sells tickets for Castlebar Mitchels.
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Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2010, 04:54:49 PM
Who was that balloon on the pitch?
Thats one of our locals. The guy is more then a bit simple. He sells tickets for Castlebar Mitchels.
Might be an idea to get the local water supply checked.
Quote from: Bud Wiser on July 18, 2010, 04:58:29 PM
Some man out looking for mushrooms and got himself arrested? A Louth man making a protest? Sligo sponsor looking for his money back? Something to do with Paul Galvin?
Yes, I think they should ban Galvin after that for another 4 weeks
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Jesus i think is Brilliant, especially after the shite the sligo lads were posting on here.
Delighted for Roscommon. On a terrible day for us, it's nice to see the underdogs prevail in Connacht.
Still, tough on Sligo, imagine beating Mayo and Galway and not winning Connacht, has that ever happened? Perhaps they got complacent.
fabulous. got my prediction arseways. Over the moon for them. Magnificent. Donie Shine is a superstar. Thats the type of day that makes the GAA special.
Congrats to the Rossies. Sligo looked like they thought they had the hard work done in beating Mayo and Galway. Poor old Sligonian might have to throw himself off the top of the new stand in Castlebar. ;D
Congratulations Roscommon!
Fully deserved.
Donie for President!
Pity one team had to lose, what a game of football, edge of the seat stuff and some great scores. Makes the Ulster Final look dreadful which it was. Great to see the Rossies getting their day in the sun after the last few years.
Well done Roscommon.
So Tommy Carr managed you when? Cavan will have to wait how many years after Tommy is gone for a provintial title.
Well done to Roscommon.
Incredible win.
Congrats to the Rossies. Brilliant win.
The pitch in McHale park will be well fertilised now!
Fair play to Roscommon, Shine kicked a couple of unreal points at the end
Great interview there by Fergal O'Donnell, comes across very well.
O'Donnell is a very impressive character. Happy for him, and happy for the Ross support who have never wavered through some very bleak years. It's a great day for the GAA as a whole. Good for Ross.
On another note - is Senan Connell the Ralph Wiggum of football analysis, or am I just being mean?
Congrats to the Rossies and sincere commiserations to the Sligonians.
Didn't see it yet so can't really comment.
Congrats indeed to Roscommon. Great win. I never really understood the whole Sligo are certs predictions, because why would Roscommon fear Sligo? The GAA is funny that way, and there are numerous examples.
Congratulations to Ros, it was a great game to be at as a neutral although you wouldn't have begrudged either team a draw after that. Have to say i thought Shine's continuous lying down in the last 10 minutes was a black mark on the Roscommon performance. Other than that he was outstanding of course.
After Costello kicked about his 4th massive point from play I commented out loud that we should recall him from his loan period for next year...that didn't go down to well with the surrounding Sligonians...maybe if he lost a stone or two we'd consider letting him come home! :P
There was a good bit of lying down and face clutching in fairness, not nice to see. However, still a very enjoyable final to watch, and delighted for Rossies.
Sligo bet themselves. Surely they must have known that to beat Ros you just don't give frees away inside your own 45 and yet even at the end when Sligo were well on top they gave stupid frees away. Davey came on and gave 2/3 away, O hara the usual same amount. Sligo will really be kicking themselves but fair play to Ros, they put it up to Sligo from the start and they kept at it till the end which will do the world of good to them young lads.
Not often a Mayoman can say he's delighted with a Rossie win but at 7/2 this one is ;D
Quote from: Mac2 on July 18, 2010, 06:20:11 PM
Not often a Mayoman can say he's delighted with a Rossie win but at 7/2 this one is ;D
I am DELIGHTED for Roscommon, whats it like to KNOW YOU HAVE WON?
What a great game off football. Some fielding, tackling, tracking back, spirit and determination and free taking from Roscommon today, what amazing long distance scores from Sligo and fighting back into it.
What about Sean McDermott and the small lad from Sligo, they where like the fox and the hare all day. Costello what a star and Donnie what a superstar. Cregg what a game and Michael Finneran class act. Henegan good too and David Casey maith an fear. Some good play by Ross Donavan and Charlie Harrison. Some nice play from O'Gara too.
Was neutral in the Ireland in WW2 kind of way a bit of my diluted Rossie blood meant I was slightly more vocal for the Primrose and Blue, but it was hard not clap or jump for joy with the scores from both sides.
THANK YOU ROSCOMMON AND SLIGO, YOU MADE CONNACHT VERY PROUD.
Fair fcks to Mayo and Galway too on a very good minor game, the score does not reflect how close it was.
Congrats Sligo and Mayo, hard luck to Sligo and Galway you did yourselves proud.
Well done to Roscommon. I think nobody in Connacht is suprised that they pulled this one off - which team had more All Ireland medals, yet less pressure going into the game? Especially pleased for those lads that have stuck by their team through some awful awful days the last 10 years - today is payback time!
What people outside Connacht probably won't recognise is that a new power in Connacht football has now been spawned and will be there challenging the next 5/6 years both locally and possibly nationally. O'Donnell has brought a steel and organisation to some very good young lads. Shine is class but if Enda Kenny and Senan Kilbride and Conor Devaney became available there would be more scoring power added up front. Because Roscommon have been doing it at underage consistently their hard work is going to pay-off.
For Sligo it is a big chance missed. They didn't play well. But maybe that is as good as they are. The pedigree of success isn't there and whatever about Roscommon's record in Castlebar the Sligo record is abysmal. Yes they did well against Mayo and Galway but we all know how poor the big guns were last year.
Well just out of the Mchale Park dressing Room, some serious celebrations is been had & i got my hands on the cup ;D
Nobody including many rossies fan's gave the team a snow ball chance, unreal scene's at the end grown men crying & finally after a nine year famine Nestor is back home
I'll talk more when i get off cloud nine
That was for you Dermot
To be honest, I thought in the second half that Sligo could have gone on to win it if they were good enough. Simply weren't though. Saying that, I'm very happy Ros won that title, but as Barney said, Roscommon are going to be hard stopped for the next couple of years. A very young team winning their first Connacht title and they are also U-21 champs this year... Watch out for them.
Quote from: ross4life on July 18, 2010, 07:54:44 PM
Well just out of the Mchale Park dressing Room, some serious celebrations is been had & i got my hands on the cup ;D
Nobody including many rossies fan's gave us a snow ball chance, unreal scene's at the end grown men crying & finally after a nine year famine Nestor is back home
I'll talk more when i get off cloud nine
That was for you Dermot
it sure was ross4life you kinda just felt that roscommon were going to to win to day no pressure on them and Dermot watching down from above nodding approvingly as shine kicked point after point on a glorious day in mc hale park.it was a great game of football for the neutral costello was unreal for sligo scoring 5 great points ( how the fcuk did mayo let him slip through the net) and what can you say about shine absolutely brilliant both from play and place kicking, in fairness it was a pity there was a looser but good luck to both teams and I'm sure the rossies on the board will enjoy todays victory
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2010, 08:01:41 PM
To be honest, I thought in the second half that Sligo could have gone on to win it if they were good enough. Simply weren't though. Saying that, I'm very happy Ros won that title, but as Barney said, Roscommon are going to be hard stopped for the next couple of years. A very young team winning their first Connacht title and they are also U-21 champs this year... Watch out for them.
I bloody hope so, my second favourate team in Ireland.
Great win for Roscommon, well deserved.
I wouldn't be proclaiming Roscommon's long term credentials just yet. Today was a real opportunity and they grabbed it, but there are definite weaknesses also. I don't think Finneran has it in him to play like that every match - a lot of teams would clean out that midfield. They're still awfully reliant on Shine in the forwards also and they don't seem to have brought too many more quality forwards through their underage teams. Will be interesting to see how they go from here on out but its OTT to call them a new power based on one game. Having said that I hope they do the province proud in the All Ireland Series and prove me wrong.
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Sligo Team not from an official source is Greene, Harrison, McGuire, Donovan, J Davey, Phillips, Cawley, Gilmartin, Taylor, Costello, Breheny, O Hara, McGee, Marren, Kelly.
I can see on all the boards and the Roscommon folk trying to convince themselves into winning frame of mind, but its one thing thinking your going to win and another knowing your going to win.
What an absolute clown you are Sligonian. Win a couple of matches, and the arrogance flows like shit out of you. I've seen this with Sligo people before. Give me knowledgeable Gaa people from Mayo and Galway any day.
Ive seen this behaviour from supporters of all teams in connacht at one time or another. I someone deduce that the bold Sligonian made the statement with tongue firmly in cheek in the hope that someone would fall for the bait - take a bow shrewdness.
I noted from my time in Sligo IT that Mayo people in particular had a penchant for this type of behaviour.
It is a rare phenomenon indeed that would see GAA knowledge confined exclusively to the borders of Mayo and Galway. ::) Maybe Jim Corr might look into that one. Scutter talk if ever I heard it.
Best of luck to Kevin and the lads tomorrow. Hopefully we will be Connacht Champs come 6pm. All i know is that regardless of the result these lads have been a breath of fresh air this year and have played some delightfull football which has been a joy to watch for this supporter. What is rare is beautiful. Up the Magpies!
Actually, if you read back a few pages, you'll see that i wasn't the first person to comment on Sligonian's remarks, so i won't be taking any bow.
Best of luck to the Rossies, and may the spirit of the late great Dermot Earley inspire our team to victory tomorrow.
I said on here and stolensheep my that comment about knowing was a wind up, i could see ye were looking to get offended all week, when i said it would be tight but i expect Sligo to win etc.. im called a arrogant p***k, so i decided to well give ye what ye wanted. We are better than ye and i had to laugh today when on Saturday game, of Derry v Kildare, and mcstay saying 4-1odds for Ros was crazy odds as ros never fear Sligo (even though we have a decent record there) and Flynn saying "now kevin 4-1 odds is accurate, i expect Sligo to win by at least 6pts even if they play mediocre, theres no form with roscommon and there wins over london and leitrim were poor performances"
He is from Meath but if a Sligoman said that heaven forbid. Im excited, im nervous, im expectant, and i trust our lads to do the business. No one knows the future so roscommon have a chance but a slight one at that imo and alot has to go against us and for ye.
Just reminding what Sligonian said. ;D
Well done Ros - some turnaround from last year - I was talking to a high profile Mayo player who wouldn't be known for his humilty a couple of days after the Mayo v Ros game last year and he described Ros as worse than an average Mayo senior team
As yer barber from Roscommon said " they are the greathest team in the world"
Well Done lads what a game!! :)
Quote from: mjg on July 16, 2010, 08:10:22 AM
Never when mayo were beating us in an out of the gates in hyde or mchale did i encounter such arrogance or cockiness as that that sprouts from sligonian.Your attempt to turn sligo in to the meath of connacht is right on track
:o
A wonderful quality match; I enjoyed it much more than other match this year. I had high hopes of an exciting game before this match and was not let down.
Thought Shine & Costelloe were the 2 outstanding players. Finneran for Roscommon also won some important ball. And Roscommons number 12 did a lot of "hard" work (The type of work Paul Galvin does for Kerry).
Quote from: mckieran on July 18, 2010, 08:42:18 PM
A wonderful quality match; I enjoyed it much more than other match this year. I had high hopes of an exciting game before this match and was not let down.
Thought Shine & Costelloe were the 2 outstanding players. Finneran for Roscommon also won some important ball. And Roscommons number 12 did a lot of "hard" work (The type of work Paul Galvin does for Kerry).
Cathel Cregg from Western Gaels (Frenchpark - the last town in Roscommon before Mayo)
Quote from: heffo on July 18, 2010, 08:28:15 PM
Well done Ros - some turnaround from last year - I was talking to a high profile Mayo player who wouldn't be known for his humilty a couple of days after the Mayo v Ros game last year and he described Ros as worse than an average Mayo senior team
You of course are a paragon of humility.
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Quote from: heffo on July 18, 2010, 08:28:15 PM
Well done Ros - some turnaround from last year - I was talking to a high profile Mayo player who wouldn't be known for his humilty a couple of days after the Mayo v Ros game last year and he described Ros as worse than an average Mayo senior team
You of course are a paragon of humility.
I can't recall ever rubbishing a team after beating them, so in that context, I am yes
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Well done Ros - some turnaround from last year - I was talking to a high profile Mayo player who wouldn't be known for his humilty a couple of days after the Mayo v Ros game last year and he described Ros as worse than an average Mayo senior team
You of course are a paragon of humility.
I can't recall ever rubbishing a team after beating them, so in that context, I am yes
You have form in bad mouthing barely concealed identities from behind your anonymous username and your previous post was more of it.
Cathel Cregg from Western Gaels (Frenchpark - the last town in Roscommon before Mayo)
[/quote] Ballaghadereen is the last town in ROSCOMMON before Mayo .
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Well done Ros - some turnaround from last year - I was talking to a high profile Mayo player who wouldn't be known for his humilty a couple of days after the Mayo v Ros game last year and he described Ros as worse than an average Mayo senior team
You of course are a paragon of humility.
I can't recall ever rubbishing a team after beating them, so in that context, I am yes
You have form in bad mouthing barely concealed identities from behind your anonymous username and your previous post was more of it.
If indeed your assertion is true then I suggest you open a dictionary and get clarification on what humility means as you seem a little confused
Just back from McHale. What an electric atmosphere there today. The place was shaking. Amazing performance by Ros to hold out in the end because the momentum was then with Sligo, the wind had really picked up, the decimel levels were through the roof as the magpies smelled victory and the primrose and blue was getting engulfed in a great sea of black and white. Cathal Cregg was heroic today, my man of the match. Won a sight of ball and carried Ros forward when things started to turn. No player gets more criticism in Ros than Finneran and today he was just outstanding. Donie kicked immaculate frees, not just from distance but also with all kinds of noise ringing in his ears. Fergie left it late bringing on some fresh legs but Higgins won the balls that got us those last scores. Sincere hard luck to Sligo. They didn't lose for lack of support. They contributed to a marvelous occasion and as they've done all year when they got going kicked some mighty points. Those who are in charge of McHale had it in excellent shape today. Great stadium. The scenes at the end is something I'll never forget and no matter what happens in qtr final, they have banished away the last ten nightmare years at senior. Come on the Ros.
Who was the Mayo poster who said Shine was brutal (or words to that effect) when I said he was the best player on the pitch in the first half of the AI U21 semi final?
Sligonian said that and said to me many times, "i don't rate shine" i wonder does he think the same tonight
Quote from: heffo on July 18, 2010, 09:10:21 PM
Who was the Mayo poster who said Shine was brutal (or words to that effect) when I said he was the best player on the pitch in the first half of the AI U21 semi final?
It certainly was not me, I was at that game in Breffni and would not say anything but good about Donie Shine.
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Quote from: heffo on July 18, 2010, 08:28:15 PM
Well done Ros - some turnaround from last year - I was talking to a high profile Mayo player who wouldn't be known for his humilty a couple of days after the Mayo v Ros game last year and he described Ros as worse than an average Mayo senior team
You of course are a paragon of humility.
I can't recall ever rubbishing a team after beating them, so in that context, I am yes
You have form in bad mouthing barely concealed identities from behind your anonymous username and your previous post was more of it.
If indeed your assertion is true then I suggest you open a dictionary and get clarification on what humility means as you seem a little confused
Here's a clue, it doesn't involve bravely bad mouthing people anonymously. So yep, Heffo is out.
I'm just posting to say congrats to Ros on their win. I'm too sick to say much more. Just go easy on the pisstaking. Enjoy the win.
I see the Sunday Game thought it was a classic, they must have devoted at least 2 minutes to their coverage of the match. Maybe it was a busy weekend in the camogie..
fcuk me, i was only joking too
Jeez, I can't remember a Connacht title coming from nowhere like this before. Great performance, I genuinely did not think they had it in them. Kevin Walsh obviously read my dodgy tactical advice and didn't deploy a sweeper. I just thought Sligo were good enough not to have to resort to those type of tactics.
I had a slight concern over the spine of Sligo's defence before the game but I did not expect them to struggle around the middle. Of all the players I am happiest for Michael Finneran. I know his Dad fairly well and I know he lives for football but I, like many others, felt he wasn't up to inter county standard. It's a great day for him to prove the doubters wrong.
It's a really important step for this team to get a Connacht medal in the bag, probably two years ahead to schedule, and it means they can concentrate of developing as a team without the baggage of having to end a provincial famine. We need Shine to keep on track - we all remember Dereck Duggan scoring 1-7 v Meath and not going on, Seamie O'Neill also did not develop. However alot of these guys have achieved at minor and don't want to be remebered as guys who subsequently underachieved at senior level so there is hunger there. We just need more scoring forwards though. Kilbride and others may help but there has been a lack of forward talent on our last two minor teams so maybe Tony Mac and Gary Wynne need to look at things in that respect.
Finally, hard luck to Sligo, it was never going to be easy to get in the right frame of mind for the game. I thought though that Kevin Walsh was the man to keep Sligo on track. I remember the video about Galway in 1998 and JOM searching the dressing room after the Leitrim game looking for a cup! There is only so much he can do as the manager I suppose.
Seanie, I think all the piss taking is going to be directed at Sligonian so I don't think you will have much to worry about. I wonder does he still not rate Shine ;D
Absolutely delighted for the Rossies!! (my mothers a Rossie and I lived there for 10 years)
They've had some terrible days in the last few years, and they are well within their rights to savour every minute of what must be the most unlikely provincial win that I can remember - Mayo and Galway Div1, Sligo winning Div3, Ros relegated to Div4. Near enough fairytale.
Shine was brilliant, he will be a Ros hero for years. Missed what would be considered an easy free, then had the balls and confidence to get the winner.
I never really rated Finneran (along with many Ros supporters from what I can gather) but he was brilliant today. Cregg and Casey brilliant througout as well. When Sligo got 4 fantastic long range points, with Costello on fire, I thought they might over-run Ros, but they won the breaks and fully deserved the win.
Sickening for Sligo, but their own fault. They were complacent, no doubt about it. They'll learn (should anyway) and Down isn't a bad draw.
But that's one they'll always feel they left behind.
Bernard flynn said on tv yesterday that sligo on their worst day would win by 7/8 points, " up ya boya " . We dont win titles like the one meath thought they won last weekend ( the one they never won) . At least McSTAY has some credibility.
Sincerest congrats to Roscommon, I thought ye were absolutely outstanding, Cathal Cregg no12 was awesome, what a player, he destroyed us on breaks in the middle, ran at us, dogged, intense running, he never let up, his engine was unreal. Donie Shine take a bow, put me in my place, was really impressed from play, his free taking at the held firm. 2 midfielders bullyed us around. Corner back on Kelly outstanding,
FOD tactics were spot on, he knew our weakness at CHB,FB and went for the throat. His tactics to nullify kelly were spot on only for 30 secs with the goal chance did it not work but for the rest worked a treat, Kelly was getting ball in the corners, or having to run back out the field.
The thing that shocked me the most was Roscommon in possesion, ye ran at us at pace, and it took serious effort for our lads to slow ye down or break down the moves, where was this all yr, what a day for it to come together. Fair play to yee.
Im immensely proud of Costello on our side, was outstanding, only for him we could of got a hiding but he kept us in touch. I said earlier on the week that I would know after 5mins if we'd win, and i have to say i knew we were in trouble. I feel sorry for the huge Sligo Support. Roscommon had there homework done, and negated us to the max. We didnt move the ball quick enough. And finally Roscommon only attacked our left wing to get frees on the right side of the field to suit Shine, under pressure that showed serious composure.
Congrats Roscommon and there fans who once i had a great praise for. Sligo players you will never walk alone, not with me and Dad around. Chin up and face another fight the next day, best team won today no doubt. Sligeach abu.
Quote from: ross4life on July 18, 2010, 09:19:11 PM
Sligonian said that and said to me many times, "i don't rate shine" i wonder does he think the same tonight
Im man enough to say im eating humble pie tonight, fair play to him, was very good from play. Unshakable under pressure.
Fair play to you Sligonian. Well done to Roscommon but I certainly feel for Sligo, very hard on them to have knocked out Mayo and Galway and still not win the title.
Fair play to you Sligonian. A noble and sporting reaction, and it can't have been easy for you to write it.
Fair play Sligonian for your generous post and also the insightful analysis - youknow your football even ifyou misjudged Donie's potential. I know how passionate you are about Sligo and you should not apologise for that. You will get a bit of slagging for the next few days but you have broad shoulders!!
I was not able to go to the game today and indeed to follow the lead up to it - unfortunately a family illness means that footaball has to take a back seat. I was really impressed with the performance today ad while I did not expect a win neither did I thin we were ever 4/1 outsiders - I saw enough in the Leitrim game that showed me a team was taking shape. I think our league performances were misleading as we were badly prepared for it and we did not have a settled side. Fergie now has had 2 months to work properly with the team, players have returned from injury and generally the level of fitness and confidence has increased. We are still a bit raw and inexperienced but we compensated today with passion, work rate and a never say die attitude.
Hard luck to Sligo - normally I would want them to win a CF and it is tough to lose after 2 great wins. However they did not suddenly become a bad team and I would ecpect them to win their qualifier.
Again wel done to all the team, management and supporters. I was sorry not to be there but the result has lifted the whole county. This was our AI for this year.
Fair play sligonian, i hope we see two connacht teams in the last 8 if ye beat down, its the least ye deserve! who knows we may lock horns again this year
Quote from: Tatler Jack on July 18, 2010, 11:28:04 PM
Fair play Sligonian for your generous post and also the insightful analysis - youknow your football even ifyou misjudged Donie's potential. I know how passionate you are about Sligo and you should not apologise for that. You will get a bit of slagging for the next few days but you have broad shoulders!!
I was not able to go to the game today and indeed to follow the lead up to it - unfortunately a family illness means that footaball has to take a back seat. I was really impressed with the performance today ad while I did not expect a win neither did I thin we were ever 4/1 outsiders - I saw enough in the Leitrim game that showed me a team was taking shape. I think our league performances were misleading as we were badly prepared for it and we did not have a settled side. Fergie now has had 2 months to work properly with the team, players have returned from injury and generally the level of fitness and confidence has increased. We are still a bit raw and inexperienced but we compensated today with passion, work rate and a never say die attitude.
Hard luck to Sligo - normally I would want them to win a CF and it is tough to lose after 2 great wins. However they did not suddenly become a bad team and I would ecpect them to win their qualifier.
Again wel done to all the team, management and supporters. I was sorry not to be there but the result has lifted the whole county. This was our AI for this year.
Well Tatler Jack I will never forget your words after 07 Connacht Final, and whilst im absolutely rawly depressed tonight it eases the pain to know a lad like yourself is on the other side of the coin. I did misjudge Shine, fck sake cant believe how wrong i was on that. At least i got cregg right and heneghan on Harrison. But all in all the 3 games ye saw us meant ye knew alot more about us than we knew about ye and it showed in the tactical stakes. I learned a hell of alot about ye today. The main positive for Sligo is we guarnteed underdogs tag for the rest of eternity.
Quote from: ross4life on July 18, 2010, 11:39:28 PM
Fair play sligonian, i hope we see two connaucht teams in the last 8 if ye beat down, its the least ye deserve! who knows we may lock horns again this year
Congrats as i said to Tatler Jack it eases the pain to know your on the other side of the coin. Enjoy Tonight and the rest of the summer. Today has crushed Sligo football, as i said to lads off the board, this game will put us back light yrs or forward light yrs. There was an opportunity today to get rid of all the mental bagage in Connacht and instead it was reinforced. I cant expect 30 human beings to lift it in 6 days. Im going to do my best to gee them up all week on here and HS, but i doubt theyll read as theyll be expecting a roasting, which no way will i give them. Its too easy to kick them when there down. Chin up i say to them and come out out fight Down like the Rossies did today. I'll be there the next day as will Dad. You will never walk alone. NEVER.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
Sincerest congrats to Roscommon, I thought ye were absolutely outstanding, Cathal Cregg no12 was awesome, what a player, he destroyed us on breaks in the middle, ran at us, dogged, intense running, he never let up, his engine was unreal. Donie Shine take a bow, put me in my place, was really impressed from play, his free taking at the held firm. 2 midfielders bullyed us around. Corner back on Kelly outstanding,
FOD tactics were spot on, he knew our weakness at CHB,FB and went for the throat. His tactics to nullify kelly were spot on only for 30 secs with the goal chance did it not work but for the rest worked a treat, Kelly was getting ball in the corners, or having to run back out the field.
The thing that shocked me the most was Roscommon in possesion, ye ran at us at pace, and it took serious effort for our lads to slow ye down or break down the moves, where was this all yr, what a day for it to come together. Fair play to yee.
Im immensely proud of Costello on our side, was outstanding, only for him we could of got a hiding but he kept us in touch. I said earlier on the week that I would know after 5mins if we'd win, and i have to say i knew we were in trouble. I feel sorry for the huge Sligo Support. Roscommon had there homework done, and negated us to the max. We didnt move the ball quick enough. And finally Roscommon only attacked our left wing to get frees on the right side of the field to suit Shine, under pressure that showed serious composure.
Congrats Roscommon and there fans who once i had a great praise for. Sligo players you will never walk alone, not with me and Dad around. Chin up and face another fight the next day, best team won today no doubt. Sligeach abu.
f**k the sympathy. If you were'nt so arrogant beforehand you wouldnt be having to stuff yourself with humble pie tonight so you can continue to contribute to the board. I feel sorry for intellignet Sligo posters like Seanie. I know the Sligo set up extremely well and they're a grounded bunch. Tis only the likes of you spouting shite like you've an assembly line like Tyrone coming though that makes people want to rub salt in the wounds.
Firstly the best of congrats to Roscommon - best team on the day, fully deserving winners of the match and rightly proud Connacnt champions.
On the way out of McHale Pk today there was a lad on the phone telling someone that "they were technically the best team on paper". He was wearing a white shirt so I'm taking it he's from Sligo. Sadly for us, football is played in grass - that must be where we went wrong!!.
Seriously though, while I'm disappointed, I'm not overly suprised. I don't agree with the view expressed here by some and indeed I believe on TV this afternoon that Sligo were complacent and thought they only had to turn up. That is a lazy view expressed by people who were probably themselves the ones saying that but who don't know the first thing about what Sligo were thinking or feeling... or indeed what many, or indeed any, team(s) might be thinking.
The starting point for Sligo today was in their heads alright but it wasn't cockiness - it was the fear of failure; the "what if we f*** it up now" thought that gets into the back of the head and once there can't be gotten out. Remember that no Sligo team ever in the history of senior intercounty football has been the favourites in a senior championship decider. Think about that for a second - that's a lot of waiting history to be afraid to screw up on, and it only needs that fear be in a few spots in a team to create the critical weaknesses. Whereas Sligo today had to deal with the fear of losing Roscommon had no concern other than to go for it and so they did.
In terms of what happened next, Sligo got hosed in the middle of the park. Early in the championship, the two midfielders had the better of things but we had problems with breaks. I would say that as the championship progressed the midfielders were finding it tougher but we improved on the breaks. Today both midfielders were poor and we couldn't bribe a break.
Behind that we did what we didn't do in any game of recent times - gave away a lot of frees. Add these two together - the failure to win primary or secondary possesion in the middle third and giving away eight odd scorable frees (even if they weren't all converted) and, well you had to be in trouble.
All that said when Sligo got level at 12 - 12 the force was with them and they could have been expected to kick on. They both missed chances and turned over ball. Having hauled themselves back into it, they lacked the necessary composure and 'snatched' at everything instead of keeping the ball, working the openings or drawing the frees. Credit Roscommon with forcing themselves back on Sligo to prevent them pushing on but Sligo had the opportunity and didn't take it.
While it was a good loud hard fought championship match, I think some of the reactions on here to both the match and the "emergence of a new force" are well over cooked. It was indeed close and exciting and a real contest throughout but it was no classic. There were some fine individual scores and a small number of outstanding performances, but there were long periods of aimless play, a lot of mistakes, a lot of bunching and going round in circles and no real shape to a lot of what either side did. Both teams will look at quite a number of individuals and wonder what were they doing?
This morning we did not know how good Sligo could be and all we found out is that they cannot consistently play to the level that we have seen since April and that a number of the weaknesses that we might have feared still do require attention or in some cases time to mature. The fact that Roscommon beat them doesn't make them a super team and a cold analysis will conclude that victory was down to some exceptional individual performances, some that might have been anticipated and hoped for, others not.
Make no mistake though, they were fully deserving of the win today and even though Sligo 'could have' pushed on and won, it would have been illl deserved. I don't think though that their victory is a sign of greater strenght in depth in Connacht and I would fear greatly for both sides in their next encounters, for very different reasons - hopefully I'm wrong on that so we'll leave the in depth analyses until the season is over.
Just back. Never saw it coming. Expected a decent performance and a good match (both of which happened) but not a win.
Nobody deserves this more than Fergal O'Donnell. Only in his late 30s but has been on a successful minor Ross side, Captained their senior win in 01, managed the minors to Connacht and AI success in 06 and now today landed a senior connacht against all odds with a raw young side that were relegated to div 4 earlier this season. Added to all this he is the most helpful, modest, dignified and respectful person you could ever meet. Runs in his entire family.
The Roscommon players of course deserve huge plaudits. They showed not just heart but a willingness to confidently take the game to Sligo rather than just stopping them. Finneran had his match of matches at midfield. Limited and lacks pace but his perserveracnce and sheer honesty meant he got his hands on so much primary possession he starved the Sligo midfield of same. Karol Mannion beside him kicked very accurate ball in to Shine. But it was the midfield breaks where Ross really cleaned up and yet that's where I expected Sligo to thrive most. David Casey cleaned up here and drove forward brilliantly in the first half. Cathal Cregg at wing forward got through the most work on the pitch and delivered on his consistent underage form. David Keenan on the other wing also won a huge amount of breaks. Shine looked a class apart. Apart from his excellent place kicking he won ball over his head and was surprisingly quick out to low ball. Sligo never counteracted this which meant apaprt from distributing Donie also kicked 3 from play.
Sligo looked flat and maybe felt that because they always finish strong they would just hang in there and do so again. I even thought myself that they would. Their 2 points just before half time looked ominous. Kelly was well marked by Seanie Mac even thiugh he tried his heart out. The Ross keeper Claffey made a great save off him and also his kick outs were superb. O'Hara was very poor. Wandered up 3 times beside Shine in the forst half to thrash talk him when he was getting ready to take a free kick rather than concentrating on his own game. Costellow kicked 5 amazing points. The 2 corner backs were brilliant as usual. Brehony started well but Dineen got to grips with him and nullified him as the match went on. That was crucial in the winning of the match because Brehony is vital in terms of supply to the inside and general score taking.
I think Roscommon played as if they had nothing to lose and Sligo didint know how to handle this as they expected Ross to play a cautious stopping style match. That is why it was such a great match to watch. Both sides kicked excellent pointns, executed great high fielding and tackling and generally played theie hearts out. I think Ross are still very raw and they will still enter the quarter finals as outsiders. But an u-21 and senior title this year is significant progress after all the drama off the field and the drubbings on it these last few years. Sligo have 6 days to regroup but they are a much better side than Down. They will be sickened after today but not enough to throw in the towel. They will progress further I feel.
McHale park was class today and I would say that even if Ross lost. Finally happy for the real Ross supporters who followed them through thick and thin. Cant count myself among them as I rarely get to their matches anymore and wouldnt know the players nearly as well as the \Ross lads that regularly post here like Ryano, Ross4life, the other Ross, Turlough, Beard, Tatler, Spectator etc so they should really enjoy their day in the sun.
Quote from: Tatler Jack on July 18, 2010, 11:28:04 PM
This was our AI for this year.
It doesn't have to be Tatler. Take a look at who's left in the Championship when you get a chance. You'll see a lot of teams that put their pants on one leg at a time, just like you do. No reason why it has to end in a fortnight. The championship is like the cat on a hot tin roof - it's all about staying on for as long as you can. Don't put any horizon on ambition.
Hope the family get well soon.
Congrats to Ros, great performance overall and I think ye'll put it up to whoever ye meet next.
As a Sligoman I'm disappointed but still alright. I thought it was a fantastic match, much better then the rubbish that was on before it. I'm looking at you Ulster. I expected a lot more from Monaghan, anyways thats OT.
I thought we lost it ourselves today. Our defence was terrible and they are usually so good. Lazy lazy tackles all day and they kept giving the Ros men too much time on the ball. Where was the hard persistent tackling our defenders have being at for the past 3 years ?
Pulled ourselves back togeather in the second half but still made some really lazy tackles, giving away stupid frees.
Shine was excellent but I was not impressed with his Ronaldo impressions for the last 5 minutes. I understand them but I really hate that shite.
It was a missed opportunity surely but I for one amn't taking it too badly. I think this Sligo team can make it to the semi's or ,lord forbid, the final depending on the draw we get.
Just watched the game there - good match, great credit to Roscommon for the win, after the league they had. It's some turn around from the performance at the same venue in last years cahmpionship opener also.
Hope all the regulars on here have enjoyed the celebrations-ye deserve it
Congrats to Roscommon and Sligo on producing an exciting game that went own to the wire.
Best game of the championship so far. Some great scores.
There were Finnerans, O'Garas and Keegans on both the 1980 team and the team that won yesterday. Are any of them related?
Quote from: paddypastit on July 18, 2010, 11:51:55 PM
Firstly the best of congrats to Roscommon - best team on the day, fully deserving winners of the match and rightly proud Connacnt champions.
On the way out of McHale Pk today there was a lad on the phone telling someone that "they were technically the best team on paper". He was wearing a white shirt so I'm taking it he's from Sligo. Sadly for us, football is played in grass - that must be where we went wrong!!.
Seriously though, while I'm disappointed, I'm not overly suprised. I don't agree with the view expressed here by some and indeed I believe on TV this afternoon that Sligo were complacent and thought they only had to turn up. That is a lazy view expressed by people who were probably themselves the ones saying that but who don't know the first thing about what Sligo were thinking or feeling... or indeed what many, or indeed any, team(s) might be thinking.
The starting point for Sligo today was in their heads alright but it wasn't cockiness - it was the fear of failure; the "what if we f*** it up now" thought that gets into the back of the head and once there can't be gotten out. Remember that no Sligo team ever in the history of senior intercounty football has been the favourites in a senior championship decider. Think about that for a second - that's a lot of waiting history to be afraid to screw up on, and it only needs that fear be in a few spots in a team to create the critical weaknesses. Whereas Sligo today had to deal with the fear of losing Roscommon had no concern other than to go for it and so they did.
In terms of what happened next, Sligo got hosed in the middle of the park. Early in the championship, the two midfielders had the better of things but we had problems with breaks. I would say that as the championship progressed the midfielders were finding it tougher but we improved on the breaks. Today both midfielders were poor and we couldn't bribe a break.
Behind that we did what we didn't do in any game of recent times - gave away a lot of frees. Add these two together - the failure to win primary or secondary possesion in the middle third and giving away eight odd scorable frees (even if they weren't all converted) and, well you had to be in trouble.
All that said when Sligo got level at 12 - 12 the force was with them and they could have been expected to kick on. They both missed chances and turned over ball. Having hauled themselves back into it, they lacked the necessary composure and 'snatched' at everything instead of keeping the ball, working the openings or drawing the frees. Credit Roscommon with forcing themselves back on Sligo to prevent them pushing on but Sligo had the opportunity and didn't take it.
While it was a good loud hard fought championship match, I think some of the reactions on here to both the match and the "emergence of a new force" are well over cooked. It was indeed close and exciting and a real contest throughout but it was no classic. There were some fine individual scores and a small number of outstanding performances, but there were long periods of aimless play, a lot of mistakes, a lot of bunching and going round in circles and no real shape to a lot of what either side did. Both teams will look at quite a number of individuals and wonder what were they doing?
This morning we did not know how good Sligo could be and all we found out is that they cannot consistently play to the level that we have seen since April and that a number of the weaknesses that we might have feared still do require attention or in some cases time to mature. The fact that Roscommon beat them doesn't make them a super team and a cold analysis will conclude that victory was down to some exceptional individual performances, some that might have been anticipated and hoped for, others not.
Make no mistake though, they were fully deserving of the win today and even though Sligo 'could have' pushed on and won, it would have been illl deserved. I don't think though that their victory is a sign of greater strenght in depth in Connacht and I would fear greatly for both sides in their next encounters, for very different reasons - hopefully I'm wrong on that so we'll leave the in depth analyses until the season is over.
I totally agree with that assesment Paddy. This is exactly what i said to a few fellow supporters before the game. I think this fear of failure made them hesitant in possesion and hesistant in the tackle. At one stage in the first half Charlie was well out in front of Heneghan. He hesiatated for some unknown reason and Heneghan won the ball, 15 seconds later it was over the bar from Casey if I remember correctly.
It was the same with the pass. Slow to let it off. Thinking too much about it, whereas against mayo and galway it was let off quickly - more off the cuff.
Hats off to Roscommon, very worthy Champions. Cathal Cregg was my man of the match. He was like Paul Galvin in disguise. Serious breaking ball won. Drove at the sligo defence who had no answer. Cawley, Davey and Harrison tried to shackle him all to no avail. McDermott done very well on kelly (plenty of sneaky jersey pulling in the first half). It appeared that White ticked him twice for this??
McGuire stood off Shine in the first half and he kicked a majestic poit. He got tight to him in the second and he wriggled clear and kicked one off his left. Really if Shine took all his easier scoring chances Roscommon could have won by 3-4 points.
The best team won on the day. Fitting really so close to the passing of Dermot Earley. Congrats Ross.
PS - It was a joy to behold to see so many Sligo fans at the game yesterday. I hope as many continue to give our lads the support they deserve. Maybe with expectations lowered for the Down game and the fear of losing gone we can get back to the performance levels of earlier games.
Sligeach Abu.
Quote from: seafoid on July 19, 2010, 09:18:03 AM
There were Finnerans, O'Garas and Keegans on both the 1980 team and the team that won yesterday. Are any of them related?
David O'Gara is a son of John who was on the 1980 team. Michael Finneran is no relation of his namesake from 1980 and there was no Keegan playing yesterday - maybe you are mixing him up with Keenan. Donie Shine's father played with Ros in th 70s but was not around for the glory days of late 70s. Ger Heneghan is a nephew of Tom who was manager of the 1980 team.
Quote from: Tatler Jack on July 19, 2010, 10:55:58 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 19, 2010, 09:18:03 AM
There were Finnerans, O'Garas and Keegans on both the 1980 team and the team that won yesterday. Are any of them related?
David O'Gara is a son of John who was on the 1980 team. Michael Finneran is no relation of his namesake from 1980 and there was no Keegan playing yesterday - maybe you are mixing him up with Keenan. Donie Shine's father played with Ros in th 70s but was not around for the glory days of late 70s. Ger Heneghan is a nephew of Tom who was manager of the 1980 team.
Thanks for that. That sort of link back to previous success has to be worth at least a point in a tight match with Sligo who don't have it. Even if Ros got pasted by 20 points last year there is still a lot of success in the bank that can be retrieved later. the whole ros story is very encouraging and I hope they can go on a build from this in the next few years. Judging by the state of the big 2 there should be a few Nestor cups available.
A special day and a sweet victory.
Not as emotional as 2001 but great to finally win a big game in Castlebar.
It was a day when everything came right for us..
Totally written off.. Getting Casey back from injury.. Donie getting points from play..
Cregg having the game we all knew was in him and the likes of Finneran playing better than
he has ever played for Ross.
Fair play to Fergie for sticking with it. He looked a broken man last June after the Mayo massacre and he deserves all the credit for giving them the belief yesterday that they could win it.
Roll on the quarters in Croker..
Best of luck to Sligo next weekend.
They will be back as underdogs again and that will suit them.
Ye have a great record V northern teams so keep the chins up
Its there for ye
Quote from: paddypastit on July 18, 2010, 11:51:55 PM
Firstly the best of congrats to Roscommon - best team on the day, fully deserving winners of the match and rightly proud Connacnt champions.
On the way out of McHale Pk today there was a lad on the phone telling someone that "they were technically the best team on paper". He was wearing a white shirt so I'm taking it he's from Sligo. Sadly for us, football is played in grass - that must be where we went wrong!!.
Seriously though, while I'm disappointed, I'm not overly suprised. I don't agree with the view expressed here by some and indeed I believe on TV this afternoon that Sligo were complacent and thought they only had to turn up. That is a lazy view expressed by people who were probably themselves the ones saying that but who don't know the first thing about what Sligo were thinking or feeling... or indeed what many, or indeed any, team(s) might be thinking.
The starting point for Sligo today was in their heads alright but it wasn't cockiness - it was the fear of failure; the "what if we f*** it up now" thought that gets into the back of the head and once there can't be gotten out. Remember that no Sligo team ever in the history of senior intercounty football has been the favourites in a senior championship decider. Think about that for a second - that's a lot of waiting history to be afraid to screw up on, and it only needs that fear be in a few spots in a team to create the critical weaknesses. Whereas Sligo today had to deal with the fear of losing Roscommon had no concern other than to go for it and so they did.
In terms of what happened next, Sligo got hosed in the middle of the park. Early in the championship, the two midfielders had the better of things but we had problems with breaks. I would say that as the championship progressed the midfielders were finding it tougher but we improved on the breaks. Today both midfielders were poor and we couldn't bribe a break.
Behind that we did what we didn't do in any game of recent times - gave away a lot of frees. Add these two together - the failure to win primary or secondary possesion in the middle third and giving away eight odd scorable frees (even if they weren't all converted) and, well you had to be in trouble.
All that said when Sligo got level at 12 - 12 the force was with them and they could have been expected to kick on. They both missed chances and turned over ball. Having hauled themselves back into it, they lacked the necessary composure and 'snatched' at everything instead of keeping the ball, working the openings or drawing the frees. Credit Roscommon with forcing themselves back on Sligo to prevent them pushing on but Sligo had the opportunity and didn't take it.
While it was a good loud hard fought championship match, I think some of the reactions on here to both the match and the "emergence of a new force" are well over cooked. It was indeed close and exciting and a real contest throughout but it was no classic. There were some fine individual scores and a small number of outstanding performances, but there were long periods of aimless play, a lot of mistakes, a lot of bunching and going round in circles and no real shape to a lot of what either side did. Both teams will look at quite a number of individuals and wonder what were they doing?
This morning we did not know how good Sligo could be and all we found out is that they cannot consistently play to the level that we have seen since April and that a number of the weaknesses that we might have feared still do require attention or in some cases time to mature. The fact that Roscommon beat them doesn't make them a super team and a cold analysis will conclude that victory was down to some exceptional individual performances, some that might have been anticipated and hoped for, others not.
Make no mistake though, they were fully deserving of the win today and even though Sligo 'could have' pushed on and won, it would have been illl deserved. I don't think though that their victory is a sign of greater strenght in depth in Connacht and I would fear greatly for both sides in their next encounters, for very different reasons - hopefully I'm wrong on that so we'll leave the in depth analyses until the season is over.
That came from the heart without a doubt, Paddy. I know you are feeling the pain and disappointment right now but you and your team aren't finished yet. You are probably very irritated already by the amount of people who've approached you and said more or less what I'm saying now.
Expressions of sympathy are no use to you and the rest of the Sligo brigade right now, I suppose but keep this in mind;
Platitudes can be facts at times and this one of them.
Kevin Walsh remains a great manager and his team hasn't disintegrated because of one unexpected setback.
I had honestly expected this game to be a close, hard-fought affair; maybe a point or two either way.
If the margin was greater than that, I felt the winner would be Roscommon.
Fergie has been plugging away for a long time now and has been able to put together a team of his choosing with little or no notice from anyone or anywhere and that includes the Rossie fans.
With the AI champions of '06 and this year's u21 title winners to draw on, he was always going to meet you head on with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Good luck to the sheepstealers; btw, they'll give anyone they meet from here on a hell of a game.
I thought the final was the best I've seen in years. It's no harm at all that Mayo and Galway now have real opposition in Connacht. They will need to smarten up if they don't want to see future Connacht finals without either or both of them involved.
From Sligonian "Im immensely proud of Costello on our side, was outstanding,", Firstly he's a Mayo man, secondly hes still not good enough to get on a rubbish Mayo side. I suppose you could describe the Sligo team as made in Galway with spare parts from Mayo. With both Wexford and Longford (rated 31) beating Galway and Mayo we can assume that Connacht football is in the pits. Sligo bet pale imitations of those once great counties but could not beat a Ros side that sank v an average Mayo 12 mths ago and whose conquests include Leitrim and London since. So Sligo fade back to whence they came from and Ros confirm themselves as the only Connacht team capable of dining with the big two of Galway and Mayo. Black jerseys or white, if you aint got the players they might as well green and gold.
congratulations to Roscommon I think ye deserved it based on your first half performance.
Very disappointing for Sligo but hopefully we can pick it back up for Saturday.
Not looking for excuses here but I was very surprised that there was only 2 mins of extra time and that for more than half of it play was stopped.
QuoteFrom Sligonian "Im immensely proud of Costello on our side, was outstanding,", Firstly he's a Mayo man, secondly hes still not good enough to get on a rubbish Mayo side. I suppose you could describe the Sligo team as made in Galway with spare parts from Mayo.
So your point is that he shouldnt be proud of Costelloe ???
Given Costelloes performances this year, He is good enough to be on the Mayo side.
The young rossies came of age yesterday a performance that rolled back the years, It was a classic Connacht championship game that had even the neutral fan's on the edge of there seats
the midfield dominance cemented the win for us, FB line was superb i think Marren's 2 points from play is all they got D Casey(playing through the pain) C Cregg, D Keenan, D O'Gara played out of the skin's & a special praise for Dineen at number 6 he more than held his own
What more can be said about Donie Shine he must be one the best place kickers in Ireland now? he's so much more that just a free taker anyone that was at the March 17th Mayo v Roscommon under 21 game will tell you that.... he was our star man when we had the minor success, under 21 & now Senior
huge credit to Sligo the fight back from 10-4 down to draw level with the point scoring by the magpies was unreal i think Sean Davey's point was the best
Would be nice if we could win in Croke park but I'm happy enough after a nine year wait to be kings of Connacht again
whats all this talk of fighting in the ground after the match. It was on tv3 news apparently
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 19, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
whats all this talk of fighting in the ground after the match. It was on tv3 news apparently
Sounds like horeshite to me, it was like one big Connacht love-in at the match between all 4 sets of fans. Coming out of the match was very hospitable and a great mix of Rossies, Sligo, Mayo, Galway, local townies and quite a few hen nights last night. Great night, saw no trouble, but lots of hopping pubs.
The only think I saw was that looper that ran onto McHale Park pitch and got escorted off by the Gardai, he really is an eejit, I saw him belting divets on the back pitches with a spade another time, he seems wired to the moon.
Quote from: ross4life on July 19, 2010, 07:25:26 PM
Would be nice if we could win in Croke park but I'm happy enough after a nine year wait to be kings of Connacht again
Isn't that a bit on the low side of expectations? All the Rossies going on about 2001 . Who won the all-Ireland that year? Surely to god Ros should be able to set the sights a bit higher than getting out of connacht. Those minors in 2006 didn't shut up shop once they had the Connacht Final out of the way. How else are you going to add to the haul from the 40s? Imagine winning Sam before Mayo. Jesus, that would be something.
Quote from: seafoid on July 19, 2010, 08:06:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 19, 2010, 07:25:26 PM
Would be nice if we could win in Croke park but I'm happy enough after a nine year wait to be kings of Connacht again
Isn't that a bit on the low side of expectations? All the Rossies going on about 2001 . Who won the all-Ireland that year? Surely to god Ros should be able to set the sights a bit higher than getting out of connacht. Those minors in 2006 didn't shut up shop once they had the Connacht Final out of the way. How else are you going to add to the haul from the 40s? Imagine winning Sam before Mayo. Jesus, that would be something.
Your right Seafoid, both Roscommon and Sligo should go for it, I reckon they are both as good as anyone other than Cork and Kerry perhaps. You might get beaten, you might get hammered but then again you might just win. If Roscommon and Sligo can play to their best I would not begrudge either taking Sam home to Connacht even before Mayo. I might give us the kick up the arse to win Sam ourselves.
I'd say most Mayo fans would feel the same way.
I certainly do.
Quote from: seafoid on July 19, 2010, 08:06:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 19, 2010, 07:25:26 PM
Would be nice if we could win in Croke park but I'm happy enough after a nine year wait to be kings of Connacht again
Isn't that a bit on the low side of expectations? All the Rossies going on about 2001 . Who won the all-Ireland that year? Surely to god Ros should be able to set the sights a bit higher than getting out of connacht. Those minors in 2006 didn't shut up shop once they had the Connacht Final out of the way. How else are you going to add to the haul from the 40s? Imagine winning Sam before Mayo. Jesus, that would be something.
Fergal & his team will take it one step at a time just like with the 2006 Minor's, but again nothing will be expected of our lot 100/1 odds with the bookies tell us that
Tyrone,Kerry,Cork are well ahead of the pack the longer we avoid those.. the further we will get IMO
TG4 now lads.
In work today all the Cork and Dublin boys where hoping to get Ros in the draw for the quarter finals. I can't wait to be honest!!!
Sligo have nothing to fear from Down either so best of luck to them in that one.
Quote from: Beard on July 19, 2010, 08:56:46 PM
In work today all the Cork and Dublin boys where hoping to get Ros in the draw for the quarter finals. I can't wait to be honest!!!
Sligo have nothing to fear from Down either so best of luck to them in that one.
Don't worry Beard I seem to remember being in a similar situation while living and working in 2006 and the feckers were sick with the amount of humble pie they had to eat on monday morning. ;D
Same happened with some Tyrone mates after they hammered Laois in Croke Park and they were dancing on the streets to draw Mayo in 2004.
Quote from: ross4life on July 19, 2010, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 19, 2010, 08:06:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 19, 2010, 07:25:26 PM
Would be nice if we could win in Croke park but I'm happy enough after a nine year wait to be kings of Connacht again
Isn't that a bit on the low side of expectations? All the Rossies going on about 2001 . Who won the all-Ireland that year? Surely to god Ros should be able to set the sights a bit higher than getting out of connacht. Those minors in 2006 didn't shut up shop once they had the Connacht Final out of the way. How else are you going to add to the haul from the 40s? Imagine winning Sam before Mayo. Jesus, that would be something.
Fergal & his team will take it one step at a time just like with the 2006 Minor's, but again nothing will be expected of our lot 100/1 odds with the bookies tell us that
Tyrone,Kerry,Cork are well ahead of the pack the longer we avoid those.. the further we will get IMO
You can't meet Kerry until the final. That's one down. These things are much closer than you think. Accentuate the positive. The great thing about Roscommon on Sunday was that they didn't apologise to anyone for being there. The minute you start apologising for turning up, for not being Cork or Kerry or Tyrone, you're goosed.
Besides. Cork might win the All-Ireland, but they haven't yet. They've got to be aware of that too. Tyrone and Kerry both getting old, Ross have youth on their side... You have to be positive about these things.
Begod that was some occasion and day and night and morning ...as far as I can recall....:-[ seemingly we finished up in *********'s of ******* around 3 a m.
What day to be a Ros man. Unsung,unfancied and derided by media ( one of them said our best player was a Donie Shannon !!!!) and written off by our opponents we turned up to the Sligo Carnival, just as we did to Tuam in 2001 where they had a Galwat fiesta in full swing with bands on the street etc.
We started on fire, Finneran for f.... sake ..!!! took the game to Sligo and were well worth our 6 point lead approaching half time.
We weathered the expected Sligo onslought after half time and despite them getting level in the closing stages( some great points alright) we held our nerve and squeezed home.
At last Fergal got them playing like he had with the minors in 2006 and having 8 All Ireland medal winners partaking over the 70 minutes didnt do us any harm at all.
Great leadership shown by our Senior players, great work done by our middle 8 ...two things we werent doing all year.
Best part was going home via Ballagh blowing the place out of it to the accompanying cheers of the Ballaghross.
Total respect to the girleen stannding on the ditch 2 or 3 miles west of Ballagh waving her Ros flag.
Where do we go from here ?
Let's enjoy the rest of this week and think about that next week
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
Begod that was some occasion and day and night and morning ...as far as I can recall....:-[ seemingly we finished up in *********'s of ******* around 3 a m.
What day to be a Ros man. Unsung,unfancied and derided by media ( one of them said our best player was a Donie Shannon !!!!) and written off by our opponents we turned up to the Sligo Carnival, just as we did to Tuam in 2001 where they had a Galwat fiesta in full swing with bands on the street etc.
We started on fire, Finneran for f.... sake ..!!! took the game to Sligo and were well worth our 6 point lead approaching half time.
We weathered the expected Sligo onslought after half time and despite them getting level in the closing stages( some great points alright) we held our nerve and squeezed home.
At last Fergal got them playing like he had with the minors in 2006 and having 8 All Ireland medal winners partaking over the 70 minutes didnt do us any harm at all.
Great leadership shown by our Senior players, great work done by our middle 8 ...two things we werent doing all year.
Best part was going home via Ballagh blowing the place out of it to the accompanying cheers of the Ballaghross.
Total respect to the girleen stannding on the ditch 2 or 3 miles west of Ballagh waving her Ros flag.
Where do we go from here ?
Let's enjoy the rest of this week and think about that next week
Bloody
Orange Primrose and Blue Order :D
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
Begod that was some occasion and day and night and morning ...as far as I can recall....:-[ seemingly we finished up in *********'s of ******* around 3 a m.
What day to be a Ros man. Unsung,unfancied and derided by media ( one of them said our best player was a Donie Shannon !!!!) and written off by our opponents we turned up to the Sligo Carnival, just as we did to Tuam in 2001 where they had a Galwat fiesta in full swing with bands on the street etc.
We started on fire, Finneran for f.... sake ..!!! took the game to Sligo and were well worth our 6 point lead approaching half time.
We weathered the expected Sligo onslought after half time and despite them getting level in the closing stages( some great points alright) we held our nerve and squeezed home.
At last Fergal got them playing like he had with the minors in 2006 and having 8 All Ireland medal winners partaking over the 70 minutes didnt do us any harm at all.
Great leadership shown by our Senior players, great work done by our middle 8 ...two things we werent doing all year.
Best part was going home via Ballagh blowing the place out of it to the accompanying cheers of the Ballaghross.
Total respect to the girleen stannding on the ditch 2 or 3 miles west of Ballagh waving her Ros flag.
Where do we go from here ?
Let's enjoy the rest of this week and think about that next week
Who on earth made the Donie Shannon statement?
I listened to the first half of the game on radio 1. Ger Canning was on about how Mayo were the hot favourites this went on for the first five minutes. Then he mistook Roscommon for Monaghan
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 19, 2010, 09:39:54 PM
I listened to the first half of the game on radio 1. Ger Canning was on about how Mayo were the hot favourites this went on for the first five minutes. Then he mistook Roscommon for Monaghan
All us Westsideshannoners look the same. Maybe he was confusing the player with the River that forms Roscommons eastern boundary. I am against pumping water from the Shannon to Dublin, the wider the Shannon is the better IMO.
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 19, 2010, 09:38:11 PM
Who on earth made the Donie Shannon statement?
Don't know but Fergal was giving out about it on Shannonside .
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2010, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 19, 2010, 09:38:11 PM
Who on earth made the Donie Shannon statement?
Don't know but Fergal was giving out about it on Shannonside .
Shineside ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
Begod that was some occasion and day and night and morning ...as far as I can recall....:-[ seemingly we finished up in *********'s of ******* around 3 a m.
What day to be a Ros man. Unsung,unfancied and derided by media ( one of them said our best player was a Donie Shannon !!!!) and written off by our opponents we turned up to the Sligo Carnival, just as we did to Tuam in 2001 where they had a Galwat fiesta in full swing with bands on the street etc.
We started on fire, Finneran for f.... sake ..!!! took the game to Sligo and were well worth our 6 point lead approaching half time.
We weathered the expected Sligo onslought after half time and despite them getting level in the closing stages( some great points alright) we held our nerve and squeezed home.
At last Fergal got them playing like he had with the minors in 2006 and having 8 All Ireland medal winners partaking over the 70 minutes didnt do us any harm at all.
Great leadership shown by our Senior players, great work done by our middle 8 ...two things we werent doing all year.
Best part was going home via Ballagh blowing the place out of it to the accompanying cheers of the Ballaghross.
Total respect to the girleen stannding on the ditch 2 or 3 miles west of Ballagh waving her Ros flag.
Where do we go from here ?
Let's enjoy the rest of this week and think about that next week
There was more than the media deriding Roscommon buck.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 15, 2010, 02:52:25 PM
Finneran and Dineen are not County players, McDermott is not a defender, Casey is a wreck, Heneghan is Heneghan ::), Cregg ...the County awaits ,Rogers is middlin, Purcell isnt really a defender so you're down to the 5 off the 2006 minors plus Mannion.
Jasus re reading that looks like we're in for a shockin batin. :-[
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2010, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 19, 2010, 09:38:11 PM
Who on earth made the Donie Shannon statement?
Don't know but Fergal was giving out about it on Shannonside .
I heard it on Friday morning on RTE - can't rememebr who it was (maybe Tony Davis?) but he said Ros were depending too much on Donie Shannon. I laughed at it - you can't expect the pundits to be experts on teams outside of the top 3 or 4 ;)
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 18, 2010, 11:39:28 PM
Fair play sligonian, i hope we see two connaucht teams in the last 8 if ye beat down, its the least ye deserve! who knows we may lock horns again this year
Congrats as i said to Tatler Jack it eases the pain to know your on the other side of the coin. Enjoy Tonight and the rest of the summer. Today has crushed Sligo football, as i said to lads off the board, this game will put us back light yrs or forward light yrs. There was an opportunity today to get rid of all the mental bagage in Connacht and instead it was reinforced. I cant expect 30 human beings to lift it in 6 days. Im going to do my best to gee them up all week on here and HS, but i doubt theyll read as theyll be expecting a roasting, which no way will i give them. Its too easy to kick them when there down. Chin up i say to them and come out out fight Down like the Rossies did today. I'll be there the next day as will Dad. You will never walk alone. NEVER.
Sligonian, we've had our differences on here, but you've gone up in my estimation. You're a credit to your county and it's people like you who make the Gaa what it is.
Everyone in Sligo should try to refocus this week, because in my opinion, Down is a very winnable game for Sligo next Saturday. It's going to be all about mental attitude now for Sligo.
I can never understand the so called experts. They moan about tatical football, about puke football, about cynical football, about lads unable to field or kick, about lads taking frees from their hands, about bad passing, well on Sunday we say great fielding, great shooting many from outside the 45, suburb free taking, good hard but fair and legal passing, a good day by the 7 officails (not perfect but a good job done), a great carnival athmosphere among 4 sets of supporters, passion, determination and excitment and they feckn moan. Well if thats fckn good enough for them they can feck off.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
Total respect to the girleen stannding on the ditch 2 or 3 miles west of Ballagh waving her Ros flag.
That feckin Charlestown Bypass has disenfranchised the real border Rossies near Carracastle - on the old N5 road - from flying their flags on the route wesht on match days, although i saw some of them parked their tractors in the back fields a-joining the bypass and proudly flew several primrose & blue flags from the top of the cabs etc ... martyrs for the cause! ;)
Great day for Rossies yesterday.
Fergal's tactic of running at the Sligo defence proved spot on. They'd struggled to cope when Antrim tried to run through them a few times late on in the Div 3 final & it was definitely a ploy for Ros to re-visit yesterday. Sligo's problems at FB & CHB were exposed this summer also and were another couple of areas for Ros to probe. Letting Sligo play the game on their own terms would have been a fatal mistake.
For me, Sligo weren't tuned in during the first quarter. Likely it was due to Ros taking the game to them, but i suspect the weight of expectation didn't sit too easily with them either. Fair play, they eventually settled and came back well both at the end of the first half and with a great scoring burst half way through the second half when aided by the wind, but crucially they couldn't get in front. Had they managed to take the lead when they got back to 12 - 12 or 13 - 13 they'd have won it, imo. We were looking tired at that stage - and maybe could have made the substitutions 5 \ 10 minutes earlier - but still had the nous to get direct ball into the forwards to win the couple of frees to get us over the line. There was very little between the two teams towards the end, it could have gone either way, although Ros deserved it over the course of the game. More of our players played to their max on the day and our ability to hit the ground running and astute tactics on the management's part unsettled Sligo, which was just enough to get us through. Best of Luck to Sligo this weekend, dust yourselves down & go for it lads. Tomorrow is another day.
For Ros, despite the horrendous injury list throughout the league, it was impossible to envisage this after we were relegated. Huge credit is due to the management & players for having the belief and putting in the hard work to turn things around. This squad is not the finished article, quite the opposite tbh & there's a lot more development to be undergone and positions to be resolved yet. While this win will provide massive encouragement for everyone, we still have a few years to wait before this squad reaches its true potential. As Tatler said, the expectation and pressure to win a senior Connacht title has been eased now & the development of the squad should be allowed to continue unhindered without imposing undue expectations on them over the next couple of years.
Quote from: spectator on July 19, 2010, 11:47:08 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
Total respect to the girleen stannding on the ditch 2 or 3 miles west of Ballagh waving her Ros flag.
That feckin Charlestown Bypass has disenfranchised the real border Rossies near Carracastle - on the old N5 road - from flying their flags on the route wesht on match days, although i saw some of them parked their tractors in the back fields a-joining the bypass and proudly flew several primrose & blue flags from the top of the cabs etc ... martyrs for the cause! ;)
The bloody new road seems to have annexed another kilometre from the modern Mayo border >:( If this craic continues Castlebar will be in Roscommon by 2110 . That sign wants to be moved back 1 kilometre and if there was any justice in the World back another 10-11 kilometres back to between Ballagh and Frenchpark.
Were those all the Frenchpark refugees waving their Unionist flags again?
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
Today has crushed Sligo football, as i said to lads off the board, this game will put us back light yrs or forward light yrs. There was an opportunity today to get rid of all the mental bagage in Connacht and instead it was reinforced. I cant expect 30 human beings to lift it in 6 days. Im going to do my best to gee them up all week on here and HS, but i doubt theyll read as theyll be expecting a roasting, which no way will i give them. Its too easy to kick them when there down. Chin up i say to them and come out out fight Down like the Rossies did today. I'll be there the next day as will Dad. You will never walk alone. NEVER.
I could say so many things . . . You did let them walk alone in 2008 . . . And, with all due respect, I don't think your messages are going to make much difference to the players. I'm genuinely sorry for most people in Sligo and for the Sligo players, especially Alan Cos, because I don't think it was arroance that cost them but a genuine uneasyness with the favourites tag. It didn't sit well with them. But, seriously, Sligonian your talk about there being a difference between thinking a team might win and knowing a team might win, well talk about a hostage to fortune. You are a great GAA supporter in many ways but you've a few things to learn. Humility is what this game should have given you anyway.
It is not often I'll say this because I wouldn't be a long established fan of the Rossies but I was delighted for them yesterday. They played with such belief, which was phenomenal given recent history. So many heroes, Shine, Cregg and Finneran were the three main men for me. It was great to see and chat with Karol Mannion aftwerwards. A great servent to Roscommon who had never seen any success. His facial expression was going from delight to disbelief like a yo-yo!
Yesterday was a game that the All-Ireland Championship badly needed. Congrats and thanks to both counties for giving us that. An honour to have witnessed it.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 20, 2010, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
Today has crushed Sligo football, as i said to lads off the board, this game will put us back light yrs or forward light yrs. There was an opportunity today to get rid of all the mental bagage in Connacht and instead it was reinforced. I cant expect 30 human beings to lift it in 6 days. Im going to do my best to gee them up all week on here and HS, but i doubt theyll read as theyll be expecting a roasting, which no way will i give them. Its too easy to kick them when there down. Chin up i say to them and come out out fight Down like the Rossies did today. I'll be there the next day as will Dad. You will never walk alone. NEVER.
I could say so many things . . . You did let them walk alone in 2008 . . . And, with all due respect, I don't think your messages are going to make much difference to the players. I'm genuinely sorry for most people in Sligo and for the Sligo players, especially Alan Cos, because I don't think it was arroance that cost them but a genuine uneasyness with the favourites tag. It didn't sit well with them. But, seriously, Sligonian your talk about there being a difference between thinking a team might win and knowing a team might win, well talk about a hostage to fortune. You are a great GAA supporter in many ways but you've a few things to learn. Humility is what this game should have given you anyway.
It is not often I'll say this because I wouldn't be a long established fan of the Rossies but I was delighted for them yesterday. They played with such belief, which was phenomenal given recent history. So many heroes, Shine, Cregg and Finneran were the three main men for me. It was great to see and chat with Karol Mannion aftwerwards. A great servent to Roscommon who had never seen any success. His facial expression was going from delight to disbelief like a yo-yo!
Yesterday was a game that the All-Ireland Championship badly needed. Congrats and thanks to both counties for giving us that. An honour to have witnessed it.
Very intelligent post Sniper.
Here's a good desktop background for fellow rossies
(http://dynimg.rte.ie/0003856b-674.jpg)
the winning score :)
Firstly congrats to the Roscommon poster. It was a perfect way to honour the memory of the late Dermot Early.
Very disappointing performance however by the Sligo team and management on Sunday. Complacency and favorites tag were obviously an issue. It beggars belief that a county with a embarrasing total of 3 Connaught titles in a 5 county province over 120 odd years can be complacent going into a Connaught final.
Management didn't seem to have any tactics or gameplan. The sweeper system we used successfully in the previous games was discarded. Why.. did we not think the Roscommon attack could muster a respectable score. This exposed McGuire and Phillips. McGuire has been a great servant to Sligo football for the last 10/12 years but unfortunately time has caught up with him and this year was a year too far. Phillips was shown up as too slow and ponderous for inter county football. For 3 points in the first half Ross broke up the pitch without a hand been laid on them while the Roscommon defenders we tackling like demons at the other end. We had 3 small lads in the full forward line in the first half tripping over each other with no ball coming in when Kelly needed a bit of space to get away from the smothering marking of the excellent McDermot.
Cregg was winning kickout after kickout and J Davey was left on him until midway through the second half. Moving Harrison onto Cregg sparked our revival as keeper was forced to kick down the middle and we started to win the breaks and the possession to kick some good scores.
We conceded 13/14 frees in the scoring zone - you can't do that with a place kicker like Shine around especially as the Rosscommon corner forwards were well contained and didn't look like scoring.
Overall a very disppointing day and cannot see us doing anything next Saturday- we should make changes at 3 and 6 to give lads who have been training all year a runout. Roscommon should give it a right good crack in the quarters - they maybe a forward or 2 light to win it though (is the left footer from the 2006 minors on the panel - forget his name).
Congrats to Diarmuid Shannon and all the Ros team. Great display and great victory. All of Mayo are happy for ye.
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 19, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
whats all this talk of fighting in the ground after the match. It was on tv3 news apparently
I saw it clearly. It was after the presentation down at the goal Ross were playing into in the second half. About 15-20 buckos beating the lard out of each other. Knocked over advertising hoardings. No GAA jersies in evidence so cant blame it on any county's supporters. A few women behind the goal were quite distressed but it only lasted about 30 seconds or more. Eejits.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 19, 2010, 10:08:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
Begod that was some occasion and day and night and morning ...as far as I can recall....:-[ seemingly we finished up in *********'s of ******* around 3 a m.
What day to be a Ros man. Unsung,unfancied and derided by media ( one of them said our best player was a Donie Shannon !!!!) and written off by our opponents we turned up to the Sligo Carnival, just as we did to Tuam in 2001 where they had a Galwat fiesta in full swing with bands on the street etc.
We started on fire, Finneran for f.... sake ..!!! took the game to Sligo and were well worth our 6 point lead approaching half time.
We weathered the expected Sligo onslought after half time and despite them getting level in the closing stages( some great points alright) we held our nerve and squeezed home.
At last Fergal got them playing like he had with the minors in 2006 and having 8 All Ireland medal winners partaking over the 70 minutes didnt do us any harm at all.
Great leadership shown by our Senior players, great work done by our middle 8 ...two things we werent doing all year.
Best part was going home via Ballagh blowing the place out of it to the accompanying cheers of the Ballaghross.
Total respect to the girleen stannding on the ditch 2 or 3 miles west of Ballagh waving her Ros flag.
Where do we go from here ?
Let's enjoy the rest of this week and think about that next week
There was more than the media deriding Roscommon buck.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 15, 2010, 02:52:25 PM
Finneran and Dineen are not County players, McDermott is not a defender, Casey is a wreck, Heneghan is Heneghan ::), Cregg ...the County awaits ,Rogers is middlin, Purcell isnt really a defender so you're down to the 5 off the 2006 minors plus Mannion.
Jasus re reading that looks like we're in for a shockin batin. :-[
:D
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 20, 2010, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
Today has crushed Sligo football, as i said to lads off the board, this game will put us back light yrs or forward light yrs. There was an opportunity today to get rid of all the mental bagage in Connacht and instead it was reinforced. I cant expect 30 human beings to lift it in 6 days. Im going to do my best to gee them up all week on here and HS, but i doubt theyll read as theyll be expecting a roasting, which no way will i give them. Its too easy to kick them when there down. Chin up i say to them and come out out fight Down like the Rossies did today. I'll be there the next day as will Dad. You will never walk alone. NEVER.
I could say so many things . . . You did let them walk alone in 2008 . . . And, with all due respect, I don't think your messages are going to make much difference to the players. I'm genuinely sorry for most people in Sligo and for the Sligo players, especially Alan Cos, because I don't think it was arroance that cost them but a genuine uneasyness with the favourites tag. It didn't sit well with them. But, seriously, Sligonian your talk about there being a difference between thinking a team might win and knowing a team might win, well talk about a hostage to fortune. You are a great GAA supporter in many ways but you've a few things to learn. Humility is what this game should have given you anyway.
It is not often I'll say this because I wouldn't be a long established fan of the Rossies but I was delighted for them yesterday. They played with such belief, which was phenomenal given recent history. So many heroes, Shine, Cregg and Finneran were the three main men for me. It was great to see and chat with Karol Mannion aftwerwards. A great servent to Roscommon who had never seen any success. His facial expression was going from delight to disbelief like a yo-yo!
Yesterday was a game that the All-Ireland Championship badly needed. Congrats and thanks to both counties for giving us that. An honour to have witnessed it.
One learns everyday, not sure how i let them walk alone in 08 as i was at every league and championship game, I did scapegoat them after, but sure read EOH comments in the Galway salthill programme and he just repeated what i said back then. I dont blame any Sligo player or supporter for thinking we would win, I all week said it would be tight, i said the above about knowing as a wind up. I probably was a bit arrogant as I just didnt see ros performance coming. My full analysis on the game will come later in the week when ive settled and when i look ahead to down. It definitly gave me humility. My Granny is my only grandparent ive left and shes a Rossie from Ballaghdereen, she was delighted so ive been eating humble pie all week with her winding me up.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 20, 2010, 12:01:45 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 20, 2010, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
Today has crushed Sligo football, as i said to lads off the board, this game will put us back light yrs or forward light yrs. There was an opportunity today to get rid of all the mental bagage in Connacht and instead it was reinforced. I cant expect 30 human beings to lift it in 6 days. Im going to do my best to gee them up all week on here and HS, but i doubt theyll read as theyll be expecting a roasting, which no way will i give them. Its too easy to kick them when there down. Chin up i say to them and come out out fight Down like the Rossies did today. I'll be there the next day as will Dad. You will never walk alone. NEVER.
I could say so many things . . . You did let them walk alone in 2008 . . . And, with all due respect, I don't think your messages are going to make much difference to the players. I'm genuinely sorry for most people in Sligo and for the Sligo players, especially Alan Cos, because I don't think it was arroance that cost them but a genuine uneasyness with the favourites tag. It didn't sit well with them. But, seriously, Sligonian your talk about there being a difference between thinking a team might win and knowing a team might win, well talk about a hostage to fortune. You are a great GAA supporter in many ways but you've a few things to learn. Humility is what this game should have given you anyway.
It is not often I'll say this because I wouldn't be a long established fan of the Rossies but I was delighted for them yesterday. They played with such belief, which was phenomenal given recent history. So many heroes, Shine, Cregg and Finneran were the three main men for me. It was great to see and chat with Karol Mannion aftwerwards. A great servent to Roscommon who had never seen any success. His facial expression was going from delight to disbelief like a yo-yo!
Yesterday was a game that the All-Ireland Championship badly needed. Congrats and thanks to both counties for giving us that. An honour to have witnessed it.
One learns everyday, not sure how i let them walk alone in 08 as i was at every league and championship game, I did scapegoat them after, but sure read EOH comments in the Galway salthill programme and he just repeated what i said back then. I dont blame any Sligo player or supporter for thinking we would win, I all week said it would be tight, i said the above about knowing as a wind up. I probably was a bit arrogant as I just didnt see ros performance coming. My full analysis on the game will come later in the week when ive settled and when i look ahead to down. It definitly gave me humility. My Granny is my only grandparent ive left and shes a Rossie from Ballaghdereen, she was delighted so ive been eating humble pie all week with her winding me up.
you ll not go hungry this week :P
Quote from: stephenite on July 20, 2010, 11:37:28 AM
There was more than the media deriding Roscommon buck.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 15, 2010, 02:52:25 PM
Finneran and Dineen are not County players, McDermott is not a defender, Casey is a wreck, Heneghan is Heneghan ::), Cregg ...the County awaits ,Rogers is middlin, Purcell isnt really a defender so you're down to the 5 off the 2006 minors plus Mannion.
Jasus re reading that looks like we're in for a shockin batin. :-[
:D
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;)
It's great to be proved wrong.
As for the Quarter Final ...we havent a hope, all them lads only had one big game in them and it's now gone. ;D :D
Without been condescending I did feel sorry for the Sligo supporters. They outnumbered us by at least 2 to 1 and were very vocal and took their defeat very well. It must have been very painful. I believe there is nothing to stop them beating Down as by all accounts their game against Offaly was woeful.
Quote from: spectator on July 19, 2010, 11:47:08 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
Total respect to the girleen stannding on the ditch 2 or 3 miles west of Ballagh waving her Ros flag.
That feckin Charlestown Bypass has disenfranchised the real border Rossies near Carracastle - on the old N5 road - from flying their flags on the route wesht on match days, although i saw some of them parked their tractors in the back fields a-joining the bypass and proudly flew several primrose & blue flags from the top of the cabs etc ... martyrs for the cause! ;)
The uncle is one of them farmers, must ask him has he got the flags on top of the tractor...
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 20, 2010, 12:01:45 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 20, 2010, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
Today has crushed Sligo football, as i said to lads off the board, this game will put us back light yrs or forward light yrs. There was an opportunity today to get rid of all the mental bagage in Connacht and instead it was reinforced. I cant expect 30 human beings to lift it in 6 days. Im going to do my best to gee them up all week on here and HS, but i doubt theyll read as theyll be expecting a roasting, which no way will i give them. Its too easy to kick them when there down. Chin up i say to them and come out out fight Down like the Rossies did today. I'll be there the next day as will Dad. You will never walk alone. NEVER.
I could say so many things . . . You did let them walk alone in 2008 . . . And, with all due respect, I don't think your messages are going to make much difference to the players. I'm genuinely sorry for most people in Sligo and for the Sligo players, especially Alan Cos, because I don't think it was arroance that cost them but a genuine uneasyness with the favourites tag. It didn't sit well with them. But, seriously, Sligonian your talk about there being a difference between thinking a team might win and knowing a team might win, well talk about a hostage to fortune. You are a great GAA supporter in many ways but you've a few things to learn. Humility is what this game should have given you anyway.
It is not often I'll say this because I wouldn't be a long established fan of the Rossies but I was delighted for them yesterday. They played with such belief, which was phenomenal given recent history. So many heroes, Shine, Cregg and Finneran were the three main men for me. It was great to see and chat with Karol Mannion aftwerwards. A great servent to Roscommon who had never seen any success. His facial expression was going from delight to disbelief like a yo-yo!
Yesterday was a game that the All-Ireland Championship badly needed. Congrats and thanks to both counties for giving us that. An honour to have witnessed it.
One learns everyday, not sure how i let them walk alone in 08 as i was at every league and championship game, I did scapegoat them after, but sure read EOH comments in the Galway salthill programme and he just repeated what i said back then. I dont blame any Sligo player or supporter for thinking we would win, I all week said it would be tight, i said the above about knowing as a wind up. I probably was a bit arrogant as I just didnt see ros performance coming. My full analysis on the game will come later in the week when ive settled and when i look ahead to down. It definitly gave me humility. My Granny is my only grandparent ive left and shes a Rossie from Ballaghdereen, she was delighted so ive been eating humble pie all week with her winding me up.
Well it was after the game in 2008 I was referring to which is in marked contrast to after this game. And I know the two games are different and can be assessed differently but a statement like 'you'll never walk alone' is a broad brushstroke which implies that even in their darkest hour, they have your support, which, of course, is contradicted by 2008 after the Mayo game.
I'd say Sunday was a big learning curve for you, as it was for a lot of us who went to the bookies :'(
Best of luck with the Down game.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 20, 2010, 12:01:45 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 20, 2010, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
Today has crushed Sligo football, as i said to lads off the board, this game will put us back light yrs or forward light yrs. There was an opportunity today to get rid of all the mental bagage in Connacht and instead it was reinforced. I cant expect 30 human beings to lift it in 6 days. Im going to do my best to gee them up all week on here and HS, but i doubt theyll read as theyll be expecting a roasting, which no way will i give them. Its too easy to kick them when there down. Chin up i say to them and come out out fight Down like the Rossies did today. I'll be there the next day as will Dad. You will never walk alone. NEVER.
I could say so many things . . . You did let them walk alone in 2008 . . . And, with all due respect, I don't think your messages are going to make much difference to the players. I'm genuinely sorry for most people in Sligo and for the Sligo players, especially Alan Cos, because I don't think it was arroance that cost them but a genuine uneasyness with the favourites tag. It didn't sit well with them. But, seriously, Sligonian your talk about there being a difference between thinking a team might win and knowing a team might win, well talk about a hostage to fortune. You are a great GAA supporter in many ways but you've a few things to learn. Humility is what this game should have given you anyway.
It is not often I'll say this because I wouldn't be a long established fan of the Rossies but I was delighted for them yesterday. They played with such belief, which was phenomenal given recent history. So many heroes, Shine, Cregg and Finneran were the three main men for me. It was great to see and chat with Karol Mannion aftwerwards. A great servent to Roscommon who had never seen any success. His facial expression was going from delight to disbelief like a yo-yo!
Yesterday was a game that the All-Ireland Championship badly needed. Congrats and thanks to both counties for giving us that. An honour to have witnessed it.
One learns everyday, not sure how i let them walk alone in 08 as i was at every league and championship game, I did scapegoat them after, but sure read EOH comments in the Galway salthill programme and he just repeated what i said back then. I dont blame any Sligo player or supporter for thinking we would win, I all week said it would be tight, i said the above about knowing as a wind up. I probably was a bit arrogant as I just didnt see ros performance coming. My full analysis on the game will come later in the week when ive settled and when i look ahead to down. It definitly gave me humility. My Granny is my only grandparent ive left and shes a Rossie from Ballaghdereen, she was delighted so ive been eating humble pie all week with her winding me up.
"I probably was a bit arrogant" more than probably sligonian ;) one thing is for sure we won't be underestimated by the Sligo fan's ever again
P.S July 18th is a bad date for your boys last year you also lost by one point to the the eventually All ireland winners
Quote from: Rossfan on July 20, 2010, 12:34:56 PM
Quote from: stephenite on July 20, 2010, 11:37:28 AM
There was more than the media deriding Roscommon buck.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 15, 2010, 02:52:25 PM
Finneran and Dineen are not County players, McDermott is not a defender, Casey is a wreck, Heneghan is Heneghan ::), Cregg ...the County awaits ,Rogers is middlin, Purcell isnt really a defender so you're down to the 5 off the 2006 minors plus Mannion.
Jasus re reading that looks like we're in for a shockin batin. :-[
:D
;)
It's great to be proved wrong.
As for the Quarter Final ...we havent a hope, all them lads only had one big game in them and it's now gone. ;D :D
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Nevermind rossfan sure your speech worked wonders didn't it ;D
Quote from: Mano on July 20, 2010, 09:47:09 AM
Firstly congrats to the Roscommon poster. It was a perfect way to honour the memory of the late Dermot Early.
Very disappointing performance however by the Sligo team and management on Sunday. Complacency and favorites tag were obviously an issue. It beggars belief that a county with a embarrasing total of 3 Connaught titles in a 5 county province over 120 odd years can be complacent going into a Connaught final.
Management didn't seem to have any tactics or gameplan. The sweeper system we used successfully in the previous games was discarded. Why.. did we not think the Roscommon attack could muster a respectable score. This exposed McGuire and Phillips. McGuire has been a great servant to Sligo football for the last 10/12 years but unfortunately time has caught up with him and this year was a year too far. Phillips was shown up as too slow and ponderous for inter county football. For 3 points in the first half Ross broke up the pitch without a hand been laid on them while the Roscommon defenders we tackling like demons at the other end. We had 3 small lads in the full forward line in the first half tripping over each other with no ball coming in when Kelly needed a bit of space to get away from the smothering marking of the excellent McDermot.
Cregg was winning kickout after kickout and J Davey was left on him until midway through the second half. Moving Harrison onto Cregg sparked our revival as keeper was forced to kick down the middle and we started to win the breaks and the possession to kick some good scores.
We conceded 13/14 frees in the scoring zone - you can't do that with a place kicker like Shine around especially as the Rosscommon corner forwards were well contained and didn't look like scoring.
Overall a very disppointing day and cannot see us doing anything next Saturday- we should make changes at 3 and 6 to give lads who have been training all year a runout. Roscommon should give it a right good crack in the quarters - they maybe a forward or 2 light to win it though (is the left footer from the 2006 minors on the panel - forget his name).
Good analysis Mano. In fairness to Kevin though whilst it must have been tempting to move O'Hara back he probably needed him to dig out youtr midfield. Dont think either management would have expected Ross to clean out there like they did.
Quote from: ross matt on July 20, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: Mano on July 20, 2010, 09:47:09 AM
Firstly congrats to the Roscommon poster. It was a perfect way to honour the memory of the late Dermot Early.
Very disappointing performance however by the Sligo team and management on Sunday. Complacency and favorites tag were obviously an issue. It beggars belief that a county with a embarrasing total of 3 Connaught titles in a 5 county province over 120 odd years can be complacent going into a Connaught final.
Management didn't seem to have any tactics or gameplan. The sweeper system we used successfully in the previous games was discarded. Why.. did we not think the Roscommon attack could muster a respectable score. This exposed McGuire and Phillips. McGuire has been a great servant to Sligo football for the last 10/12 years but unfortunately time has caught up with him and this year was a year too far. Phillips was shown up as too slow and ponderous for inter county football. For 3 points in the first half Ross broke up the pitch without a hand been laid on them while the Roscommon defenders we tackling like demons at the other end. We had 3 small lads in the full forward line in the first half tripping over each other with no ball coming in when Kelly needed a bit of space to get away from the smothering marking of the excellent McDermot.
Cregg was winning kickout after kickout and J Davey was left on him until midway through the second half. Moving Harrison onto Cregg sparked our revival as keeper was forced to kick down the middle and we started to win the breaks and the possession to kick some good scores.
We conceded 13/14 frees in the scoring zone - you can't do that with a place kicker like Shine around especially as the Rosscommon corner forwards were well contained and didn't look like scoring.
Overall a very disppointing day and cannot see us doing anything next Saturday- we should make changes at 3 and 6 to give lads who have been training all year a runout. Roscommon should give it a right good crack in the quarters - they maybe a forward or 2 light to win it though (is the left footer from the 2006 minors on the panel - forget his name).
Good analysis Mano. In fairness to Kevin though whilst it must have been tempting to move O'Hara back he probably needed him to dig out youtr midfield. Dont think either management would have expected Ross to clean out there like they did.
I take your point there but at least get some men behind the ball. Roscommon had all their half forwards behind the ball as soon as they lost possession especially in second half. We were naive in playing a 3 man full forward line. We were passing laterally over and back the pitch as a result and then started going for long range points in the last 20 minutes rather than trying to feed the ball into the inside line.
Quote from: Mano on July 20, 2010, 04:40:01 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 20, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: Mano on July 20, 2010, 09:47:09 AM
Firstly congrats to the Roscommon poster. It was a perfect way to honour the memory of the late Dermot Early.
Very disappointing performance however by the Sligo team and management on Sunday. Complacency and favorites tag were obviously an issue. It beggars belief that a county with a embarrasing total of 3 Connaught titles in a 5 county province over 120 odd years can be complacent going into a Connaught final.
Management didn't seem to have any tactics or gameplan. The sweeper system we used successfully in the previous games was discarded. Why.. did we not think the Roscommon attack could muster a respectable score. This exposed McGuire and Phillips. McGuire has been a great servant to Sligo football for the last 10/12 years but unfortunately time has caught up with him and this year was a year too far. Phillips was shown up as too slow and ponderous for inter county football. For 3 points in the first half Ross broke up the pitch without a hand been laid on them while the Roscommon defenders we tackling like demons at the other end. We had 3 small lads in the full forward line in the first half tripping over each other with no ball coming in when Kelly needed a bit of space to get away from the smothering marking of the excellent McDermot.
Cregg was winning kickout after kickout and J Davey was left on him until midway through the second half. Moving Harrison onto Cregg sparked our revival as keeper was forced to kick down the middle and we started to win the breaks and the possession to kick some good scores.
We conceded 13/14 frees in the scoring zone - you can't do that with a place kicker like Shine around especially as the Rosscommon corner forwards were well contained and didn't look like scoring.
Overall a very disppointing day and cannot see us doing anything next Saturday- we should make changes at 3 and 6 to give lads who have been training all year a runout. Roscommon should give it a right good crack in the quarters - they maybe a forward or 2 light to win it though (is the left footer from the 2006 minors on the panel - forget his name).
Good analysis Mano. In fairness to Kevin though whilst it must have been tempting to move O'Hara back he probably needed him to dig out youtr midfield. Dont think either management would have expected Ross to clean out there like they did.
I take your point there but at least get some men behind the ball. Roscommon had all their half forwards behind the ball as soon as they lost possession especially in second half. We were naive in playing a 3 man full forward line. We were passing laterally over and back the pitch as a result and then started going for long range points in the last 20 minutes rather than trying to feed the ball into the inside line.
true yeah but the long range points nearly won it it the end as it did the Galway replay. Only a point in it. Analysis tends to depend onn the result. Had Daveys other 2 attempts gone over people would be saying Ross performed well but Kevn W had Sligo primed to do just enough to win. Bad start was what lost it for ye.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 17, 2010, 06:47:13 PM
It's time for this again :D
In the name of the dead generations of Rosmen who fought and died that we might be free of evil monsters Ros summons her gossoons to her righteous cause.
Remember the great heritage ye have inherited.
Let's do it for Queen Maeve,Niall of the 9 hostages, Saints Eithne and Fidelma, St Coman,St Croan,St Faithleach,St Michael,St Ronan,Ned Duffy, The O'Connor kings of Ireland, Douglas Hyde,Percy French,the 42 who died for Ireland and Freedom and of course Uachtarán na hEireann herself.
Remember 43 and 44 and famous days in Castlebar like 52 , 72,79 and 86.AND 2010Remember O'Malley,Lindsay,Earley,Tony Mc,Jigger and most of all Harry Keegan.Seanie Mac,Domo,Ormo,Casey,mighty Finn,Shiner,Cregger When ye see a Sligoman coming through with the ball ask yourself " What would Harry Keegan do?"or Seanie etc etc He'd drive man and ball half way to bloody WHEREVER THEY COME FROM
Updated :D
Quote from: ross4life on July 20, 2010, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 20, 2010, 12:01:45 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on July 20, 2010, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 18, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
Today has crushed Sligo football, as i said to lads off the board, this game will put us back light yrs or forward light yrs. There was an opportunity today to get rid of all the mental bagage in Connacht and instead it was reinforced. I cant expect 30 human beings to lift it in 6 days. Im going to do my best to gee them up all week on here and HS, but i doubt theyll read as theyll be expecting a roasting, which no way will i give them. Its too easy to kick them when there down. Chin up i say to them and come out out fight Down like the Rossies did today. I'll be there the next day as will Dad. You will never walk alone. NEVER.
I could say so many things . . . You did let them walk alone in 2008 . . . And, with all due respect, I don't think your messages are going to make much difference to the players. I'm genuinely sorry for most people in Sligo and for the Sligo players, especially Alan Cos, because I don't think it was arroance that cost them but a genuine uneasyness with the favourites tag. It didn't sit well with them. But, seriously, Sligonian your talk about there being a difference between thinking a team might win and knowing a team might win, well talk about a hostage to fortune. You are a great GAA supporter in many ways but you've a few things to learn. Humility is what this game should have given you anyway.
It is not often I'll say this because I wouldn't be a long established fan of the Rossies but I was delighted for them yesterday. They played with such belief, which was phenomenal given recent history. So many heroes, Shine, Cregg and Finneran were the three main men for me. It was great to see and chat with Karol Mannion aftwerwards. A great servent to Roscommon who had never seen any success. His facial expression was going from delight to disbelief like a yo-yo!
Yesterday was a game that the All-Ireland Championship badly needed. Congrats and thanks to both counties for giving us that. An honour to have witnessed it.
One learns everyday, not sure how i let them walk alone in 08 as i was at every league and championship game, I did scapegoat them after, but sure read EOH comments in the Galway salthill programme and he just repeated what i said back then. I dont blame any Sligo player or supporter for thinking we would win, I all week said it would be tight, i said the above about knowing as a wind up. I probably was a bit arrogant as I just didnt see ros performance coming. My full analysis on the game will come later in the week when ive settled and when i look ahead to down. It definitly gave me humility. My Granny is my only grandparent ive left and shes a Rossie from Ballaghdereen, she was delighted so ive been eating humble pie all week with her winding me up.
"I probably was a bit arrogant" more than probably sligonian ;) one thing is for sure we won't be underestimated by the Sligo fan's ever again
P.S July 18th is a bad date for your boys last year you also lost by one point to the the eventually All ireland winners
Ya but in all fairness most of Roscommon underestimated yere chances aswell when ye look at the crowd in Castlebar, i guarntee it will be 3 times that for yere qtr final. We are guarnteed underdog status for the foreseeable future thats for sure.
Can't blame our fan's for staying away after the 20 point defeat last year & 16 point the year before that, whatever reason the rossies fan's didn't turn up this time... they missed out big time & i don't think making the trip to dublin will make up for it
Have to say that was one of the biggest Sligo following at a game i've seen fair play ye, i hope they travel in there numbers to Cavan & if ye win where sure to have a connacht double header in croker to look forward too
Quote from: ross4life on July 20, 2010, 12:29:04 AM
Here's a good desktop background for fellow rossies
(http://dynimg.rte.ie/0003856b-674.jpg)
the winning score :)
The pitch looks in great neck. Was there a bit of work done?
Looked a lot better than last year fair play to the ground staff
congrats Roscommon, no one gave you a chance, the press didnt even have the decency to mention your chances.
You were shown no respect whatsoever by the media, it was all Sligo Sligo Sligo.
Well done and best of luck in the Quarter finals, unless we get by sligo and meet you that is.
Great to see such celebrations as im sure sligo would also have shown.
Quote from: snoopdog on July 20, 2010, 08:43:52 PM
congrats Roscommon, no one gave you a chance, the press didnt even have the decency to mention your chances.
You were shown no respect whatsoever by the media, it was all Sligo Sligo Sligo.
Well done and best of luck in the Quarter finals, unless we get by sligo and meet you that is.
Great to see such celebrations as im sure sligo would also have shown.
Would'nt get too offended about the media favouring Sligo. They were rightfully favourites. The poor coverage in general the final itself got in the lead up was an insult to the entire province. The Sunday indo then did 2 features on the match - both of them on Sligo which I suppose that (and the mispronouncing of Shine's surname) was certainly disrespectful to Roscommon.
Ross probably need to pull back a bit from the limelight as this week progresses. They're justifiably the good news story of the weekend gone by but some of the present coverage is a tad over compensatorary and condescending. (Tis not like we never won a Nestor before FFS!). However I'm sure Fergie has that aspect well covered and there wont be any distractions before the quarterfinal.
Rossies - stay under the radar, just like ye came in to the match.
I'm sure that your old warrior is looking down proudly.
Quote from: Mano on July 20, 2010, 09:47:09 AM
Firstly congrats to the Roscommon poster. It was a perfect way to honour the memory of the late Dermot Early.
Very disappointing performance however by the Sligo team and management on Sunday. Complacency and favorites tag were obviously an issue. It beggars belief that a county with a embarrasing total of 3 Connaught titles in a 5 county province over 120 odd years can be complacent going into a Connaught final.
Management didn't seem to have any tactics or gameplan. The sweeper system we used successfully in the previous games was discarded. Why.. did we not think the Roscommon attack could muster a respectable score. This exposed McGuire and Phillips. McGuire has been a great servant to Sligo football for the last 10/12 years but unfortunately time has caught up with him and this year was a year too far. Phillips was shown up as too slow and ponderous for inter county football. For 3 points in the first half Ross broke up the pitch without a hand been laid on them while the Roscommon defenders we tackling like demons at the other end. We had 3 small lads in the full forward line in the first half tripping over each other with no ball coming in when Kelly needed a bit of space to get away from the smothering marking of the excellent McDermot.
Cregg was winning kickout after kickout and J Davey was left on him until midway through the second half. Moving Harrison onto Cregg sparked our revival as keeper was forced to kick down the middle and we started to win the breaks and the possession to kick some good scores.
We conceded 13/14 frees in the scoring zone - you can't do that with a place kicker like Shine around especially as the Rosscommon corner forwards were well contained and didn't look like scoring.
Overall a very disppointing day and cannot see us doing anything next Saturday- we should make changes at 3 and 6 to give lads who have been training all year a runout. Roscommon should give it a right good crack in the quarters - they maybe a forward or 2 light to win it though (is the left footer from the 2006 minors on the panel - forget his name).
Mano, the left footer you referred to from the 2006 minors was Conor Devaney. He's not on the current panel because it's his own choice. He wanted time out for study or work or something like that.
Mind you, he still found plenty of time to train and play soccer for Roscommon Town throughout the winter/spring, but that's his own business. I wonder if he has any regrets now.
The forward who could make a real difference to Ros, if fit, is Senan Kilbride. He's back training after a major injury for the last 3 or 4 weeks, and i reckon he'll be togged on the subs bench for Croke Park.
It just shows how poor Connacht football is. Two poor teams..
QuoteIt just shows how poor Connacht football is. Two poor teams..
Who are you to judge ..?...
The two best games in the championship so far were the Galway v Sligo replay and the Connaught final.
Some of the best fielding, defending and scoring in the championship so far was in these two matchs.
Quote from: KENNY on July 21, 2010, 11:02:24 AM
It just shows how poor Connacht football is. Two poor teams..
What a brialliant first post obviously you know more than Darragh O Shea
Quote from: KENNY on July 21, 2010, 11:02:24 AM
It just shows how poor Connacht football is. Two poor teams..
Oh my God, they killed Kenny! ...You bast*rds!"
Quote from: ross4life on July 21, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: KENNY on July 21, 2010, 11:02:24 AM
It just shows how poor Connacht football is. Two poor teams..
Oh my God, they killed Kenny! ...You bast*rds!"
The Bruton faction are sore losers!
A great game. Really enjoyed it. It was something else to see the emotions switch from one group of fans to the other in the last few minutes. I thought a draw would have been a fair result. I also thought most of injury time allowed was dead time.
Sligo did well to get as close as they did considering the problems they had on the day. The spine of the team were in trouble. As others have pointed out O Hara was needed as a sweeper. If nothing else he was needed to instigate attacks from deep and try and put Davey and Cawley away into space. Sligo midfield collapsed. Taylor was clearly not match fit and pulled up injured before half time. Mullen looked way off the pace when he came on.
Ros had some great performances. McDermott made Kelly s day as hard as possible but Kelly still looked deadly. David Casey for me ran Cregg close for man of the match. Playing Costello deep was inviting trouble and even though the latter kicked massive points Casey was the source of a lot of Roscommons attacks. Worryingly he pulled up before the end. It s a shame he s been injured so much because he always had the makings of a top player. The Ros half forward line was very impressive and clearly the management had their homework done. They stopped the Sligo wingbacks punching forward and only when Harrison switched with Davey did Sligo get any impetus going forward. I never thought Finneran had that game in him. Shine always capable of doing that. Always likely to miss and easier one or two and nail the really difficult ones. McGuire stood too far off him though for the ones from play. With Shine you can afford to be in his face cause he wont turn and go away from you. Unless he was playing the old soldier it looked like Shine pulled the hamstring in injury time.
Just happened to spot Paul Earley in one of the commentary booths on the way out. He took off the headphones and stood up pumping the air with both fists and then holding his head in his hands before the fist pumping started again. Probably the thing I will remember most from what was a great day. Well done to both teams.
Quote from: KENNY on July 21, 2010, 11:02:24 AM
It just shows how poor Connacht football is. Two poor teams..
Are you basing that on Mayo losing to Longford, you could get that false impression alright.
Look this Connacht talk is rubbish, No way is the 6 day turnaround for mayo(13), galway and sligo going to be a true a refelection of them. After crushing defeats how can anyone expect them to be near there best the next day. I certainly wont be judging Sligo too harshly on Sat. Weve got to give them a break, that goes for mayo and galway too.
If Roscommon have there homework done aswell the next day they wont be far away, Im sure FOD will be in Croke Park as he may face either of the winners, and im sure theyll send someone to Limerick aswell. Sligo if we win cant get Roscommon in qtr, we can only get Tyrone, Meath or Kerry for our sins. Beating Down would show huge character though. Im hoping we do ourselves justice and dont give up.
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 20, 2010, 11:16:21 PM
Mano, the left footer you referred to from the 2006 minors was Conor Devaney. He's not on the current panel because it's his own choice. He wanted time out for study or work or something like that.
Mind you, he still found plenty of time to train and play soccer for Roscommon Town throughout the winter/spring, but that's his own business. .
Conor wanted to concentrate on his studies as I believe did Paul Gleeson too.
The amount of time Conor would need to spend training to play soccer in the R&DL would be minimal for someone of Conor's ability and he would have plenty of time left to devote to his College business.
I suspect a number of others ::) will not be too hesitant next year if they get a call from Fergal after last Sunday.
is mckeigue on the panel ? would he be seen as another to come through
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 21, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
mayo(13)
Whats this Mayo (13) talk Sligonian if you are subtracting players from the Mayo team we could just add the two Mayo players from Sligo (15-2=13)
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 21, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 21, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
mayo(13)
Whats this Mayo (13) talk Sligonian if you are subtracting players from the Mayo team we could just add the two Mayo players from Sligo (15-2=13)
You read my mind, thats what i was getting at, nothing to do with the 13 days yed to recover from yere defeat to us.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 21, 2010, 04:10:11 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 21, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 21, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
mayo(13)
Whats this Mayo (13) talk Sligonian if you are subtracting players from the Mayo team we could just add the two Mayo players from Sligo (15-2=13)
You read my mind, thats what i was getting at, nothing to do with the 13 days yed to recover from yere defeat to us.
Thats alright so ;) I thought for a second there was a breakdown in the general détente West of the Shannon :D
Quote from: spuds on July 21, 2010, 03:57:25 PM
is mckeigue on the panel ? would he be seen as another to come through
Jimmy was added to the panel some weeks ago. Didnt make the programme listing but is part of it none the less.
I'd like to think him, Eamon Bannon and Niall Daly could make one of the great half back lines in years to come.
Amazing that up to 2 years ago there was a rule where losing provincial finalists were guaranteed a free weekend.
At that stage the Connacht Final was always one of the first and you ended up with a 2/3 week break.
Then last year it seemed to change. Now the Connacht Final is one of the last. Leinster Final one of the first the last two years.
Coincidence I think not.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 21, 2010, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 21, 2010, 03:57:25 PM
is mckeigue on the panel ? would he be seen as another to come through
Jimmy was added to the panel some weeks ago. Didnt make the programme listing but is part of it none the less.
I'd like to think him, Eamon Bannon and Niall Daly could make one of the great half back lines in years to come.
J McKeague is in one of the photos in the ros herald on the steps of the stand at the cup presentation.
Sligo won a connaught title for roscommon, beating both the big lads on the way and being too sure of themselves going into the final, it was all set up lovely for ross. Eamon O Hara needs to be as aggressive next saturday as he was against Mayo and Galway.
And please, none of this nonsense about being able to raise yourselves to play Down, you were training hard all year and should be cracking to have a go and win, otherwise why waste your time and energy with all the training? The qualifiers should be treated for what they are, a second chance after losing a meaningless provincial title.
Good luck to both teams in the coming weeks, keep her lit for the west.
Quote from: mannix on July 21, 2010, 10:47:59 PM
Sligo won a connaught title for roscommon, beating both the big lads on the way and being too sure of themselves going into the final, it was all set up lovely for ross.
These so called big team's lost to Wexford & longford so who's to say Roscommon wouldn't have beaten them this year? Going into Sunday Sligo were the best team in connacht but to be the best you have to beat the best & that's what Roscommon did by WINNING the title themselves
Quote from: Barney on July 21, 2010, 05:16:43 PM
Amazing that up to 2 years ago there was a rule where losing provincial finalists were guaranteed a free weekend.
At that stage the Connacht Final was always one of the first and you ended up with a 2/3 week break.
Then last year it seemed to change. Now the Connacht Final is one of the last. Leinster Final one of the first the last two years.
Coincidence I think not.
amazing the province with only 6 teams is finished last... a major inconvenience to whoever lost the final and faced a game 6 days later. yet Munster is finished two weeks ago
Quote from: mannix on July 21, 2010, 10:47:59 PM
Sligo won a connaught title for roscommon, beating both the big lads on the way and being too sure of themselves going into the final, it was all set up lovely for ross. Eamon O Hara needs to be as aggressive next saturday as he was against Mayo and Galway.
And please, none of this nonsense about being able to raise yourselves to play Down, you were training hard all year and should be cracking to have a go and win, otherwise why waste your time and energy with all the training? The qualifiers should be treated for what they are, a second chance after losing a meaningless provincial title.
Good luck to both teams in the coming weeks, keep her lit for the west.
I d have a few issues with that. Galway and Mayo were anything but big lads this year. I m not going to bother to say anything about Galway except they were unlucky with Meehan s injury. Poor Mayo were begging to be put out of their misery against Sligo and later against Longford. We should be grateful to both those teams for granting us a quick execution and saving us bigger indignaties later. Taking into account the desperate state of Mayo and Galway it was no surprised that Sligo looked a bit nervous last day. They must have realised the form didn't stack up. I don't think they were any way overconfident, complacent or too sure about themselves last Sunday. On the contrary they looked tight. Only a couple seemed willing to make something happen. Management didn't help by failing to protect the full back line like they did against Mayo..
And are provincial titles meaningless? Louth didn't seem to think so.
My attention was brought to EOHs column in the irish indo, i had avoided all media outlets since the game as its to painful to see. Just a few quotes " we did things in the game we said we wouldnt do and didnt do other stuff that we promised we would do" ya all talk and feck all action it seems.
"when it came to it, the hungirer side won" how can a county that has won 20 titles to our 3 titles be hungrier. how can our lads not be as hungry as roscommon, that sentence angers me big time. No other county should be hungrier than us imo in connacht given our history.
Quote from: neilthemac on July 21, 2010, 11:38:53 PM
Quote from: Barney on July 21, 2010, 05:16:43 PM
Amazing that up to 2 years ago there was a rule where losing provincial finalists were guaranteed a free weekend.
At that stage the Connacht Final was always one of the first and you ended up with a 2/3 week break.
Then last year it seemed to change. Now the Connacht Final is one of the last. Leinster Final one of the first the last two years.
Coincidence I think not.
amazing the province with only 6 teams is finished last... a major inconvenience to whoever lost the final and faced a game 6 days later. yet Munster is finished two weeks ago
Huh Munster has 6 and finished before Connacht which had 5+2=7.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 22, 2010, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: neilthemac on July 21, 2010, 11:38:53 PM
Quote from: Barney on July 21, 2010, 05:16:43 PM
Amazing that up to 2 years ago there was a rule where losing provincial finalists were guaranteed a free weekend.
At that stage the Connacht Final was always one of the first and you ended up with a 2/3 week break.
Then last year it seemed to change. Now the Connacht Final is one of the last. Leinster Final one of the first the last two years.
Coincidence I think not.
amazing the province with only 6 teams is finished last... a major inconvenience to whoever lost the final and faced a game 6 days later. yet Munster is finished two weeks ago
Huh Munster has 6 and finished before Connacht which had 5+2=7.
I'll give you that
But the New York game is played so early. Far before the Munster championship starts
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 22, 2010, 12:15:08 AM
My attention was brought to EOHs column in the irish indo, i had avoided all media outlets since the game as its to painful to see. Just a few quotes " we did things in the game we said we wouldnt do and didnt do other stuff that we promised we would do" ya all talk and feck all action it seems.
"when it came to it, the hungirer side won" how can a county that has won 20 titles to our 3 titles be hungrier. how can our lads not be as hungry as roscommon, that sentence angers me big time. No other county should be hungrier than us imo in connacht given our history.
Pay no heed to that Sligonian. EOH had to say samething in his column to explain things. It s just jargon. It reminds me of Jack O Connor saying about 06 that Kerry had more hunger from one year s waiting for Sam than mayo had from 50 plus. It s was just jingoism on Jack s part but a lot of people latched on to it. The reasons for losing big matches can not be explained in a few throw -away remarks. Also I would have a problem with a player using the word 'we' in analysis in public. Translated it means 'them' but 'not me'. Before there is any silly talk of hunger, does AOH mention how lack of urgency taking frees meant likes of Kelly were starved and Ros always were given time (10 - 20 secs )to funnel Finneran and others back in front of the Sligo forwards that needed space. Sligo lost a tactical battle in McHale Park. To dismiss it as lack of hunger or complacancy has nothing to do with it. Likes of Gilmartin and Brehony, Philips, McGuire, Mullen all struggled the last day but it would be daft to suggest they were overconfident or lacked interest/hunger. As well as a couple of things that Sligo didn't do well the last day tactically, I thought they needed a couple more footballers in the middle.
Quote from: Barney on July 21, 2010, 05:16:43 PM
Amazing that up to 2 years ago there was a rule where losing provincial finalists were guaranteed a free weekend.
At that stage the Connacht Final was always one of the first and you ended up with a 2/3 week break.
Then last year it seemed to change. Now the Connacht Final is one of the last. Leinster Final one of the first the last two years.
Coincidence I think not.
Good spot Barney.
Mayo 39 connaught titles
galway 39 connaught titles
sligo 3?
please spare me the sermon about big teams, mayo and galway own connaught and for both of them to be gone made it easier for the rest. Imagine if tyrone,kerry and cork were gone, you would have some serious effort put in by the unlikely lads.
Anyway my point really was to say that theres a lot of talk about not being a good qualifier team, pure loser talk, thats the reason these teams lose games they could win in the qualifiers, my own dear Mayo players are known for it.
Quote from: mannix on July 22, 2010, 10:46:15 AM
Mayo 39 connaught titles
galway 39 connaught titles
sligo 3?
please spare me the sermon about big teams, mayo and galway own connaught and for both of them to be gone made it easier for the rest. Imagine if tyrone,kerry and cork were gone, you would have some serious effort put in by the unlikely lads.
Anyway my point really was to say that theres a lot of talk about not being a good qualifier team, pure loser talk, thats the reason these teams lose games they could win in the qualifiers, my own dear Mayo players are known for it.
I agree with everything you have said Mannix. I didn't see one good Sligo tackle going in all day and when was the last time EOH didn't get a good slap on someone or didn't get booked for a rant at the ref. They were too arrogant and cocky. Only players to perform were Harrison, Donovan and Costello. There were some downright awful performances from players who were excellent in previous 3 games.
have Galway not 44 titles? And Mayo 42?
Quote from: neilthemac on July 22, 2010, 12:33:21 PM
have Galway not 44 titles? And Mayo 42?
thats more like it
according to wikipedia
QuoteTeam Winner Winning Years
1 Galway 44 1900, 1902, 1911, 1913, 1917, 1919, 1922, 1925, 1926, 1933, 1934, 1938, 1940, 1941, 1942, 1945, 1954, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1976, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1986, 1987, 1995, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2008
2 Mayo 42 1901, 1903, 1904, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1915, 1916, 1918, 1920, 1921, 1923, 1924, 1929, 1930, 1931, 1932, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1939, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1955, 1967, 1969, 1981, 1985, 1988, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2004, 2006, 2009
3 Roscommon 20 1905, 1912, 1914, 1943, 1944, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1961, 1962, 1972, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1990, 1991, 2001, 2010
4 Sligo 3 1928, 1975, 2007
5 Leitrim 2 1927, 1994
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connacht_Senior_Football_Championship
Quote from: mannix on July 22, 2010, 10:46:15 AM
Mayo 39 connaught titles
galway 39 connaught titles
sligo 3?
Away for a couple of years :D
back to the computer today for first time since sunday and having read through this thread its bringing all the emotions back again.
Brillant match (have watched it three times since sunday) and a great result for roscommon.
Honestly thought we would fall short but put in a good performance instead we put in an outstanding performance and something i hadnt seen a roscommon team doing since 2003 and that qualifier run.
My man of the match was cregg who did some great foraging and running and finally reached the potential every roscommon person knew he had.
Was chatting one of the panel members on tuesday and i said to him ye deserved it for all the s**t ye had to listen for the last 5/6 years and he told me that some days over the last three years he experienced with the county set up was some of the lowest he had ever experienced and that last sunday gave a feeling of a clean slate now and that hopefully there will be more good performances in the future.
i am looking forward to the coming years following roscommon as the last ten years bar a couple of exceptions has been depressing at times.
However we cant be thinking of big honours just yet and we must wait and see how this side develops but i think the days of seeing roscommon putting in poor performances like what we are accustomed to since 05/06 will be few and that we will be a tough nut to crack for any team.
I certainly didnt think leaving ballinalough back in january after losing to mayo in an fbd game that we would win a connacht title at senior level but thankfully its days like sunday that make the cold and wet days following these boys all the more to savour.
Fair dues to all the rossies that travelled i must admit it looked daunting walking through castlebar 2/3 hours before match and all the black jerseys lining the main street but it was a good atmosphere.
i think if we can avoid cork (if they beat limerick) we have a small chance of reaching an all ireland semi which would be incredible but we must keep our feet on the ground.
Whatever happens this year will be seen as brillant and last sunday will be in my memory for a long time and as fergie said anything further is bonus terriotory.
just shows you what a mayo person thinks of connaught titles, I know it was around the forty mark but are we splitting hairs?
Too damn lazy to check out how many Mayo or Galway have, I only look at the bigger picture which states 3 for Mayo and a heap of runner up medals.
Quote from: mannix on July 22, 2010, 10:04:18 PM
just shows you what a mayo person thinks of connaught titles, I know it was around the forty mark but are we splitting hairs?
Too damn lazy to check out how many Mayo or Galway have, I only look at the bigger picture which states 3 for Mayo and a heap of runner up medals.
It matters to me, we have to catch up on Galway and pass them out, its bloody annoying at this stage. Fck it Roscommon, Sligo and Leitrim can win all they like as long as we pass out the Heron-Chokers again.
Quote from: mannix on July 22, 2010, 10:04:18 PM
just shows you what a mayo person thinks of connaught titles, I know it was around the forty mark but are we splitting hairs?
Too damn lazy to check out how many Mayo or Galway have, I only look at the bigger picture which states 3 for Mayo and a heap of runner up medals.
A Mayo or Galway fan's not knowing how many connachts title's they have won is like a kerry fan not knowing how many All Ireland they have won
When Roscommon won the Connacht title in 1980 it stood at Mayo 30(mayo's last win 69)Galway 32 & Roscommon 16...i can't help feeling that some Fan's have been spoiled with the Connacht success of the last 30 years
Quote from: ross4life on July 23, 2010, 12:05:28 AM
Quote from: mannix on July 22, 2010, 10:04:18 PM
just shows you what a mayo person thinks of connaught titles, I know it was around the forty mark but are we splitting hairs?
Too damn lazy to check out how many Mayo or Galway have, I only look at the bigger picture which states 3 for Mayo and a heap of runner up medals.
A Mayo or Galway fan's not knowing how many connachts title's they have won is like a kerry fan not knowing how many All Ireland they have won
When Roscommon won the Connacht title in 1980 it stood at Mayo 30(mayo's last win 69)Galway 32 & Roscommon 16...i can't help feeling that some Fan's have been spoiled with the Connacht success of the last 30 years
I remember the Great Famine of 1997-2004.
forgot about the 1999 win? 99 was also the year Armagh/tyrone took total control of ulster
Quote from: ross4life on July 23, 2010, 12:26:05 AM
forgot about the 1999 win? 99 was also the year Armagh/tyrone took total control of ulster
Maybe he was right, maybe they are easily forgotten :D , forgot my glasses in Croke Park for the Semi V Cork, couldn't see a thing, probably was a blessing.
Quote from: ross4life on July 23, 2010, 12:05:28 AM
Quote from: mannix on July 22, 2010, 10:04:18 PM
just shows you what a mayo person thinks of connaught titles, I know it was around the forty mark but are we splitting hairs?
Too damn lazy to check out how many Mayo or Galway have, I only look at the bigger picture which states 3 for Mayo and a heap of runner up medals.
A Mayo or Galway fan's not knowing how many connachts title's they have won is like a kerry fan not knowing how many All Ireland they have won
When Roscommon won the Connacht title in 1980 it stood at Mayo 30(mayo's last win 69)Galway 32 & Roscommon 16...i can't help feeling that some Fan's have been spoiled with the Connacht success of the last 30 years
Some fans need to look at the stats. I ve seen Mayo win 12 Connachts in last 30 years.
We ve won 1 minor AI and 1 U21 AI in last 25 years. Hardly manor -born stuff at all.
We have won 17 Connacht seniors inthe last 60 years. Hardly a dominance now is it? Since 1950 Ros has won 13 - not bad considering the respective populations. Galway has won 28 in that same time - almost twice Mayo and Ros put together. Galway is half a hurling county but yet have whacked us in Connachts and AI s for 60 years. Mayo football has been poorly served by those responsible, for generations. The last 4 years are an example of the lack of responsibility in the county. A smokescreen review is now in place to put distance between a disaster and people that really care about the game. This review will of course look in the wrong place. After all it is just a ploy to distract from recent messing up at senior level. Cute hoors know that by August nobody is paying attention any more and those that are will be brushed off.
Yet, we get people dissing Connacht titles because they re beneath us. Reality check. We lost our Con championship match this year and hardly showed up for the qualifier. If losing a Connacht match wasn't important why did we not try to win the big picture? There is no bigger picture for Mayo most of the time. This year was a perfect opportunity to slink along the back door route if we had anything about us. But we had nothing about us. No proper management or tactics, belief, hunger, heart, nothing. Except a bit of class and skill. The only thing we ve had for generations. But it s not enough in itself.
The Mayo players that were honoured in McHale Park last Sunday underachieved as well. Won 85 Connacht and caught soft next 2 years when they were the best around. Those lads I know, know they left it behind.
What a depressing thread from a Sligo viewpoint.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 23, 2010, 12:00:50 AM
Quote from: mannix on July 22, 2010, 10:04:18 PM
just shows you what a mayo person thinks of connaught titles, I know it was around the forty mark but are we splitting hairs?
Too damn lazy to check out how many Mayo or Galway have, I only look at the bigger picture which states 3 for Mayo and a heap of runner up medals.
It matters to me, we have to catch up on Galway and pass them out, its bloody annoying at this stage. Fck it Roscommon, Sligo and Leitrim can win all they like as long as we pass out the Heron-Chokers again.
Only 7 more All-Ireland's to go then. ;D
Tyrone hold box seat in race for Sam
By Keith Barr
Friday July 23 2010
FOR some of the 12 counties left in the race for Sam Maguire, this season has already been a success, while for others, the serious business is just beginning.
This is the stage where a lot of teams will have aimed for at the start of the season, regardless of how their provincial campaigns panned out. A place in the last 12 is a reasonable achievement for many counties and, if managers who are in action this weekend are being honest, they will be hoping to secure a quarter-final draw against Roscommon, who are the weakest side left in the competition.
Fergal O'Donnell's side have been the surprise packet of the season and I have put them at the bottom of the list, despite the fact that they are Connacht champions. It's a ranking that will cause much rancour among those who celebrated joyously in Castlebar last Sunday, while there are others who may find themselves lower down or further up the list than you'd expect, but here's my ratings of the 12 teams left in the race for Sam.
1 Tyrone
Mickey Harte's side moved to the top of the list after the manner of their win over Monaghan last weekend and in each of their games so far, they seem to have had another gear to hit if they needed it. Seamus McEnaney's men could hardly have been in better form going into last Sunday's match, but Tyrone were still streets ahead of them. They are well-drilled and experienced and have no obvious weakness. There's more to come from star performers like Owen Mulligan and Sean Cavanagh, meaning Harte's men are in the box seat.
2 Kerry
It's difficult to leave the reigning All-Ireland champions off top spot, particularly after they beat Cork in Munster, but they might be a little bit vulnerable in the quarter-finals where they'll be missing six of the side that started last year's decider, including the suspended duo of Paul Galvin and Tomas O Se. There are still question marks over Kerry's midfield and those two will be sorely missed in that regard as they do plenty of sweeping up around the middle third. The long break will do them no harm and if they make the last four, they'll take a whole world of stopping.
3 Cork
After yet another championship defeat to Kerry earlier this year, there has to be question marks over their ability to match the Kingdom when it comes down to football's serious business. In a way, the qualifiers have been good to Conor Counihan, who is getting a better notion of his strongest 15 with each outing, but they haven't been asked serious questions in the back door by either Cavan or Wexford. They should beat Limerick in the Gaelic Grounds tomorrow, which will be another step towards realising their undoubted potential. If they can do that and get over Kerry in the wide open spaces of Croke Park, they will win the All-Ireland.
4 Meath
Winners of an undoubtedly tarnished Leinster title that might make them unpopular throughout the rest of the country, but they don't worry about such things in Meath. Their forward line was disappointing against Louth, but they'll hardly be as bad again. Graham Reilly is one of the finds of the championship, while their defence is better than a lot of people give them credit for. Like Kerry, their midfield remains a problem, as Louth proved in the Leinster final. If they can get some sort of foothold there over 70 minutes, they'll be a serious test for anyone.
5 Monaghan
The Farney men would be much further down the list if we were to put more stock in their Ulster final performance, but up to that point, they looked like the real deal. They're back in Croke Park now and that has brought the best out of them in the past, not least when they came to within an inch of beating Kerry in 2007. They are still a very strong outfit, but when Paul Finlay and Tommy Freeman were wrapped up against Tyrone, Monaghan fell apart. Those two have to be on top of their game, and if they are, they'll beat Kildare tomorrow and advance to the last eight.
6 Dublin
Pat Gilroy will be quietly pleased with how his side have evolved over the last couple of months. He'll know the qualifier draw was kind to them, giving his side home advantage against both Tipp and Armagh. They should have too much for Louth and if they get a favourable draw against the likes of Roscommon in the last eight, they would be in the semi-finals and that would represent a successful season for Dublin.
7 Louth
Peter Fitzpatrick's side have been a breath of fresh air in the championship with their open, attacking style of play. Their progress this year hasn't been as much a surprise to me as it has to others, as they feature possibly the best midfield pairing in the country in Paddy Keenan and Brian White and also a very decent inside line with JP Rooney and Colm Judge. They won't fear playing Dublin in Croke Park, but a lot will depend on how the react to the Leinster final controversy. If they can rediscover the form they found against Meath, they'll run the Dubs close.
8 Kildare
Kieran McGeeney has done well to get their season back on track after their capitulation against Louth and they have improved with each outing. The win over Derry in Celtic Park was their most impressive performance to date, which suggests they are coming to form at the right time. However, they are still very reliant on John Doyle and this is their fifth weekend of action on the trot, so Monaghan might be that little bit fresher.
9 Down
The Mourne men find themselves in the last 12 without having played particularly well to this point. James McCartan did well enough to get the show back on the road after their disappointing defeat to Tyrone and they have done just enough to get by in the interim matches. At stages in the league, they looked like a serious proposition, not least when they beat Kildare by 11 points down in Newbridge. But they look like they can grind out a result and should be a little ahead of Sligo.
10 Sligo
Ranking them 10 of 12 might be a little unfair given that they have beaten both Mayo and Galway in the Connacht championship, but the turnaround from such a morale-sapping defeat like the one to Roscommon could prove their undoing. Manager Kevin Walsh has already shown himself to be a shrewd operator, but to refocus his players this week will be his biggest test to date. Eamonn O'Hara, David Kelly and Alan Costello will have to drag this side over the line if they are to see the quarter-finals.
11 Limerick
Another side that can feel hard done by to be second from bottom on the list, especially in light of their Munster final display against Kerry. But you get the sense they emptied everything they had in themselves into that provincial decider. There's not much more Mickey Ned O'Sullivan can do for them and the same goes for John Galvin, who was heroic against Kerry. Even if they have home advantage, the draw against Cork means that this is the end of the line for the Treaty men.
12 Roscommon
Most Roscommon people would have bitten your hand off if you offered them a Connacht title and an All-Ireland quarter-final exit at the start of the season, especially in light of their woeful championship performances last year. They were wonderful in their win over Sligo last weekend, with midfielders Karol Mannion and Michael Finneran giving a superb display of high fielding. They have nothing to lose next day out, but will be the side that most teams will be hoping to draw in the last eight.
- Keith Barr
Irish Independent
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I hope every Roscommon player gets a copy of this
Sligonian - leave them at it... It's amazing how past winners no longer in the frame get uptight about silly statistics. The only championship that matters is the next one!!
What Mayo man or woman really cares about the connaught title? 39 or forty of them and only 3 of the titles that mean anything at senior level.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2010, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 23, 2010, 12:00:50 AM
Quote from: mannix on July 22, 2010, 10:04:18 PM
just shows you what a mayo person thinks of connaught titles, I know it was around the forty mark but are we splitting hairs?
Too damn lazy to check out how many Mayo or Galway have, I only look at the bigger picture which states 3 for Mayo and a heap of runner up medals.
It matters to me, we have to catch up on Galway and pass them out, its bloody annoying at this stage. Fck it Roscommon, Sligo and Leitrim can win all they like as long as we pass out the Heron-Chokers again.
Only 7 more All-Ireland's to go then. ;D
Ha ha, GalwayBayBoy to be honest I have an unhealthy mini-obsession about beating Galway, having grown up in North County Galway in my football formative years.
Quote from: mannix on July 23, 2010, 09:25:30 PM
What Mayo man or woman really cares about the connaught title? 39 or forty of them and only 3 of the titles that mean anything at senior level.
You would care more if you didn't win so many or have a long famine without one
ross4life, you are probably right. Still, can you see my point.
Quote from: ross4life on July 23, 2010, 09:44:52 PM
Quote from: mannix on July 23, 2010, 09:25:30 PM
What Mayo man or woman really cares about the connaught title? 39 or forty of them and only 3 of the titles that mean anything at senior level.
You would care more if you didn't win so many or have a long famine without one
I care about them. If we could a couple back to back it would be a sign we were developing a serious team that could maybe compete for an AI. We cant build a team by losing our first round and going out in the first round of the qualifiers. When we cant win Connacht we are not in a good place. One of the reasons we haven't won an AI in so long was because even when we had strong teams we found it difficult to put titles in province back to back.
We ve never shown any interest in qualifier route - and for this successive managements must take the blame. This years showing in Longford was worse than usual. If Mayo doesn't care about Connacht then it looks like it doesn't care about AIs either with performances like that. Mayo need to win Connachts to progress. Losing 2 championship matches this summer did not progess our younger players a bit. I m sure the next manager will be targeting a Connacht next year.
Quote from: mannix on July 23, 2010, 11:01:22 PM
ross4life, you are probably right. Still, can you see my point.
Kinda, Mayo had more that enough chance's to win another All Ireland in recent years, i was in croker when ye beat Kerry 96 Tyrone 04 & Dublin 06 i can't help feeling you peaked before the finals
i Think Moysider is right key to success might be winning back to back titles (for Mayo)
Donal Shine, Kevin Higgins and Paul Garvey now have the full set of Connacht Winners medals at Minor, Junior, Under 21 and Senior. Great achievement for 21 year olds.
Quote from: mannix on July 23, 2010, 09:25:30 PM
What Mayo man or woman really cares about the connaught title? 39 or forty of them and only 3 of the titles that mean anything at senior level.
mannix,!!
I don't think a single Mayo lad or lassie gives a damn about
Connaught titles but some just might about
Connacht ones.
BTW; Don't we have 42 of them yokes?