Man Utd Thread:

Started by full back, November 10, 2006, 08:13:49 AM

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rodney trotter

Moyes didn't officially take over until July which was relatively late. Also a new chief executive came in too. Utd spent about 3 weeks tracking Thiago and nothing came from it, and he joined up with his old boss at Bayern. Then tracked Fabregas for longer then he should have, as Fabregas was never going to leave Barca.

He will probably learn from it next time round. Herrera is likely join in Januray. It was a pity the loan for Fabio Coentrao didn't go ahead.


nrico2006

Moyes is making some strange decisions which aren't helping his cause.  Why is Zaha not playing?  Not as if he is a young player being nurtured through from the youth team, he cost the guts of £20 million.  Whats the craic with making Rooney captain?  After his recent antics he is the last man that should get near the armband, talk about licking his arse.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

johnneycool

Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
Moyes is making some strange decisions which aren't helping his cause.  Why is Zaha not playing?  Not as if he is a young player being nurtured through from the youth team, he cost the guts of £20 million.  Whats the craic with making Rooney captain?  After his recent antics he is the last man that should get near the armband, talk about licking his arse.

RVP aside he's all you have got at the minute.

a team laden with average joes.

Jeepers Creepers

Rooney has utd by the Balls. Like him or Loathe him, I dread to think the state of affairs had they sold him in the summer.

supersub

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Got tickets for United V West Ham on December 21st in OT...looking forward to it, possible relegation 6 pointer!! ;D :-[
Have you got flexibility in your flights? The televised matches haven't been picked yet for that weekend.
Aye, saw that..planning to go friday evening and back Sunday night. Should get it then, I could see it being the Saturday night game around 5pm!

I've tickets for Liverpool V Cardiff the same weekend but haven't been able to look at flights or the like either. Haven't even fully convinced myself to travel either!

I'm in the same boat that weekend. Cardiff game ticket but can't book flights, nightmare, were cheap as chips too when a few weeks ago.

deiseach

I wonder how many of the people now  second-guessing Moyes' decision to get shot of Ferguson's backroom team were applauding his decision to 'be his own man' at the time.

ballinaman

Quote from: deiseach on October 01, 2013, 09:14:08 AM
I wonder how many of the people now  second-guessing Moyes' decision to get shot of Ferguson's backroom team were applauding his decision to 'be his own man' at the time.
I thought it was a bad idea at the time...worse now!

deiseach

Quote from: ballinaman on October 01, 2013, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: deiseach on October 01, 2013, 09:14:08 AM
I wonder how many of the people now  second-guessing Moyes' decision to get shot of Ferguson's backroom team were applauding his decision to 'be his own man' at the time.
I thought it was a bad idea at the time...worse now!

I'm sure plenty of people did. I'm also sure many of the people tut-tutting about it now thought it was a fab idea at the time. And if Moyes turns it around, they'll be applauding him for stamping his authority on the club!

rodney trotter

Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
Moyes is making some strange decisions which aren't helping his cause.  Why is Zaha not playing?  Not as if he is a young player being nurtured through from the youth team, he cost the guts of £20 million.  Whats the craic with making Rooney captain?  After his recent antics he is the last man that should get near the armband, talk about licking his arse.

Not a young player? He doesn't turn 21 until November. He wasn't walk straight into the Utd first team with Nani having signed a new 5 year deal Young/Valenica fighting for a place. Plus the emergence of Januzaj as another winger.
He will get lots chances as the season progresses.. It was Ferguson and not Moyes who signed him after all, maybe Moyes is favouring Januzaj coming from the bench at present.

nrico2006

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2013, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
Moyes is making some strange decisions which aren't helping his cause.  Why is Zaha not playing?  Not as if he is a young player being nurtured through from the youth team, he cost the guts of £20 million.  Whats the craic with making Rooney captain?  After his recent antics he is the last man that should get near the armband, talk about licking his arse.

Not a young player? He doesn't turn 21 until November. He wasn't walk straight into the Utd first team with Nani having signed a new 5 year deal Young/Valenica fighting for a place. Plus the emergence of Januzaj as another winger.
He will get lots chances as the season progresses.. It was Ferguson and not Moyes who signed him after all, maybe Moyes is favouring Januzaj coming from the bench at present.

I didn't say he wasn;t young I said he wasn't some young player United have developed which is a different scenario.  He is a player bought for a large amount of money and is already a full England international with a few years experience of playing first team football.  He should have at least been on the pitch by now. 
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

rodney trotter

Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2013, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
Moyes is making some strange decisions which aren't helping his cause.  Why is Zaha not playing?  Not as if he is a young player being nurtured through from the youth team, he cost the guts of £20 million.  Whats the craic with making Rooney captain?  After his recent antics he is the last man that should get near the armband, talk about licking his arse.

Not a young player? He doesn't turn 21 until November. He wasn't walk straight into the Utd first team with Nani having signed a new 5 year deal Young/Valenica fighting for a place. Plus the emergence of Januzaj as another winger.
He will get lots chances as the season progresses.. It was Ferguson and not Moyes who signed him after all, maybe Moyes is favouring Januzaj coming from the bench at present.

I didn't say he wasn;t young I said he wasn't some young player United have developed which is a different scenario.  He is a player bought for a large amount of money and is already a full England international with a few years experience of playing first team football.  He should have at least been on the pitch by now. 

He wasn't bought by Moyes though. so maybe doesn't favour him as much, yet, regardless of the figure he was bought for.
He was playing Championship football until this season, he might not be ready for a full start or role with Utd yet.

His 2 Full England caps came from the bench in Friendly games.

bluenosebandit

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2013, 10:33:33 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2013, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
Moyes is making some strange decisions which aren't helping his cause.  Why is Zaha not playing?  Not as if he is a young player being nurtured through from the youth team, he cost the guts of £20 million.  Whats the craic with making Rooney captain?  After his recent antics he is the last man that should get near the armband, talk about licking his arse.

Not a young player? He doesn't turn 21 until November. He wasn't walk straight into the Utd first team with Nani having signed a new 5 year deal Young/Valenica fighting for a place. Plus the emergence of Januzaj as another winger.
He will get lots chances as the season progresses.. It was Ferguson and not Moyes who signed him after all, maybe Moyes is favouring Januzaj coming from the bench at present.

I didn't say he wasn;t young I said he wasn't some young player United have developed which is a different scenario.  He is a player bought for a large amount of money and is already a full England international with a few years experience of playing first team football.  He should have at least been on the pitch by now. 

He wasn't bought by Moyes though. so maybe doesn't favour him as much, yet, regardless of the figure he was bought for.
He was playing Championship football until this season, he might not be ready for a full start or role with Utd yet.

His 2 Full England caps came from the bench in Friendly games.
Does no-one else think that when a player is described as a "full england international" and has a few caps that it is the most worthless/misleading description of a player? Given their lack of recent success, their poor performances, the struggles they are having in the current qualifying campaign, being an england international is nothing to crow about. England are a very poor team, with no realistic hopes of achieving, having caps for england mean you are the best in a very poor bunch. Ricky Lambert and James Milner have england caps for god sake.
Michu, as far as im aware, doesnt have a cap for spain, if he were english he would have 50+ caps at this stage.

rodney trotter

Quote from: bluenosebandit on October 01, 2013, 10:43:25 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2013, 10:33:33 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2013, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
Moyes is making some strange decisions which aren't helping his cause.  Why is Zaha not playing?  Not as if he is a young player being nurtured through from the youth team, he cost the guts of £20 million.  Whats the craic with making Rooney captain?  After his recent antics he is the last man that should get near the armband, talk about licking his arse.

Not a young player? He doesn't turn 21 until November. He wasn't walk straight into the Utd first team with Nani having signed a new 5 year deal Young/Valenica fighting for a place. Plus the emergence of Januzaj as another winger.
He will get lots chances as the season progresses.. It was Ferguson and not Moyes who signed him after all, maybe Moyes is favouring Januzaj coming from the bench at present.

I didn't say he wasn;t young I said he wasn't some young player United have developed which is a different scenario.  He is a player bought for a large amount of money and is already a full England international with a few years experience of playing first team football.  He should have at least been on the pitch by now. 

He wasn't bought by Moyes though. so maybe doesn't favour him as much, yet, regardless of the figure he was bought for.
He was playing Championship football until this season, he might not be ready for a full start or role with Utd yet.

His 2 Full England caps came from the bench in Friendly games.
Does no-one else think that when a player is described as a "full england international" and has a few caps that it is the most worthless/misleading description of a player? Given their lack of recent success, their poor performances, the struggles they are having in the current qualifying campaign, being an england international is nothing to crow about. England are a very poor team, with no realistic hopes of achieving, having caps for england mean you are the best in a very poor bunch. Ricky Lambert and James Milner have england caps for god sake.
Michu, as far as im aware, doesnt have a cap for spain, if he were english he would have 50+ caps at this stage.

Would agree with that. Lambert being a great example.

Walter Cronc

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2013, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: bluenosebandit on October 01, 2013, 10:43:25 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2013, 10:33:33 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2013, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
Moyes is making some strange decisions which aren't helping his cause.  Why is Zaha not playing?  Not as if he is a young player being nurtured through from the youth team, he cost the guts of £20 million.  Whats the craic with making Rooney captain?  After his recent antics he is the last man that should get near the armband, talk about licking his arse.

Not a young player? He doesn't turn 21 until November. He wasn't walk straight into the Utd first team with Nani having signed a new 5 year deal Young/Valenica fighting for a place. Plus the emergence of Januzaj as another winger.
He will get lots chances as the season progresses.. It was Ferguson and not Moyes who signed him after all, maybe Moyes is favouring Januzaj coming from the bench at present.

I didn't say he wasn;t young I said he wasn't some young player United have developed which is a different scenario.  He is a player bought for a large amount of money and is already a full England international with a few years experience of playing first team football.  He should have at least been on the pitch by now. 

He wasn't bought by Moyes though. so maybe doesn't favour him as much, yet, regardless of the figure he was bought for.
He was playing Championship football until this season, he might not be ready for a full start or role with Utd yet.

His 2 Full England caps came from the bench in Friendly games.
Does no-one else think that when a player is described as a "full england international" and has a few caps that it is the most worthless/misleading description of a player? Given their lack of recent success, their poor performances, the struggles they are having in the current qualifying campaign, being an england international is nothing to crow about. England are a very poor team, with no realistic hopes of achieving, having caps for england mean you are the best in a very poor bunch. Ricky Lambert and James Milner have england caps for god sake.
Michu, as far as im aware, doesnt have a cap for spain, if he were english he would have 50+ caps at this stage.

Would agree with that. Lambert being a great example.

Mikel Arteta also. Would have 50+ caps if he were English. Christ sure they were considering that clown Almunia a few years back!!!

johnneycool

Quote from: nrico2006 on October 01, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
Moyes is making some strange decisions which aren't helping his cause.  Why is Zaha not playing?  Not as if he is a young player being nurtured through from the youth team, he cost the guts of £20 million.  Whats the craic with making Rooney captain?  After his recent antics he is the last man that should get near the armband, talk about licking his arse.

Ferguson splashed out £20M on Zaha? WTF.

If he was so shit hot, why did the messiah buy him and then let him go straight out on loan to the club he bought him from?
Zaha is work in progress I'd presume hence Fergusons decision to loan him and hence why he's not getting a start now a few months later.