Antrim Hurling

[Christmas Lights]

Derry team winning ulster senior and Tyrone team winning ulster intermediate.
Is Antrim club hurling declining?

[Tony Baloney]

Derry team winning ulster senior and Tyrone team winning ulster intermediate.
Is Antrim club hurling declining?

There used to be a thing that Derry (and Tyrone) teams could only win because they played football and therefore were able to physically dominate. Their hurling skills were always treated as a  distant second to physicality. It's *clear* these teams can play.

[Milltown Row2]

Ulster finals at senior level were generally played at Casement, ad johnnycool would have said was a massive advantage..

But since the inception of the intermediate and junior they have improved.

Fair play to Carrickmore, another dual team like the other finalists today..

Antrim clubs need to up their game

[SaffronSports]

Ulster finals at senior level were generally played at Casement, ad johnnycool would have said was a massive advantage..

But since the inception of the intermediate and junior they have improved.

Fair play to Carrickmore, another dual team like the other finalists today..

Antrim clubs need to up their game

Would there be a big dual element? I know there's 2 separate clubs in Carrickmore but dont know much about them tbh.

[Christmas Lights]

They are completely separate clubs afaik.  I don't think the hurlers and footballers pull that well at all from talk.

[johnnycool]

Derry team winning ulster senior and Tyrone team winning ulster intermediate.
Is Antrim club hurling declining?

Did Burt from Donegal not win the junior the other week?

TBH the breaking of the hegemony of dominance of Antrim at club level in Ulster is a good thing, I know you lads mightn't think so and it's also something I've said repeatedly in Down in relation to the underage hurling championships leaving the Ards quite frequently over recent years, in fact we won the minor this year and that has been the first underage championship won by an Ards team since Portaferry five years ago.

It makes you rethink what you are doing and should push you on and if we are truly "hurling" people we should welcome the spread of the game in places like Tyrone and Donegal.

There's always been hurling in Derry with some very good teams throughout my time well capable of putting it up to the best in Antrim like the Lynches and Lavey but this Slaughtneil team is different gravy and let's have the decency to acknowledge and welcome that.

The only solace is from a Down perspective is that at least the Ports gave them a bit of a game. 

I felt a bit queasy typing that. 

I'd also add, I don't see the ending of Antrim's dominance at Intercounty level within the province at adult, U20, minor, U16 being challenged anytime soon.

[Milltown Row2]

Ulster finals at senior level were generally played at Casement, ad johnnycool would have said was a massive advantage..

But since the inception of the intermediate and junior they have improved.

Fair play to Carrickmore, another dual team like the other finalists today..

Antrim clubs need to up their game

Would there be a big dual element? I know there's 2 separate clubs in Carrickmore but dont know much about them tbh.

Player was on Tyrone talk speaking about the dual aspect and how they managed it better this year to before.

When the footballers didn't get as many games this time with the new manager they've been able to them more exposure to games before their championship run

[imtommygunn]

Derry team winning ulster senior and Tyrone team winning ulster intermediate.
Is Antrim club hurling declining?

Did Burt from Donegal not win the junior the other week?

TBH the breaking of the hegemony of dominance of Antrim at club level in Ulster is a good thing, I know you lads mightn't think so and it's also something I've said repeatedly in Down in relation to the underage hurling championships leaving the Ards quite frequently over recent years, in fact we won the minor this year and that has been the first underage championship won by an Ards team since Portaferry five years ago.

It makes you rethink what you are doing and should push you on and if we are truly "hurling" people we should welcome the spread of the game in places like Tyrone and Donegal.

There's always been hurling in Derry with some very good teams throughout my time well capable of putting it up to the best in Antrim like the Lynches and Lavey but this Slaughtneil team is different gravy and let's have the decency to acknowledge and welcome that.

The only solace is from a Down perspective is that at least the Ports gave them a bit of a game. 

I felt a bit queasy typing that. 

I'd also add, I don't see the ending of Antrim's dominance at Intercounty level within the province at adult, U20, minor, U16 being challenged anytime soon.

I think the junior is a bit of a farce with Lavey and Burt in it. The intermediate is definitely much more interesting and you wouldn't begrudge anyone it.

County won't change. Antrim have four very strong teams and Down and Derry are dominated by one club so there'll be more of a spread of players in antrim. It will be interesting seeing the difference in down and antrim inter county this year mind you. The last time I saw them play it was in Ballycran and there was a massive difference. I'd expect it to be closer this time as Davy is (arguably) not moving us particularly forwards.

[NAG1]

Derry team winning ulster senior and Tyrone team winning ulster intermediate.
Is Antrim club hurling declining?

Did Burt from Donegal not win the junior the other week?

TBH the breaking of the hegemony of dominance of Antrim at club level in Ulster is a good thing, I know you lads mightn't think so and it's also something I've said repeatedly in Down in relation to the underage hurling championships leaving the Ards quite frequently over recent years, in fact we won the minor this year and that has been the first underage championship won by an Ards team since Portaferry five years ago.

It makes you rethink what you are doing and should push you on and if we are truly "hurling" people we should welcome the spread of the game in places like Tyrone and Donegal.

There's always been hurling in Derry with some very good teams throughout my time well capable of putting it up to the best in Antrim like the Lynches and Lavey but this Slaughtneil team is different gravy and let's have the decency to acknowledge and welcome that.

The only solace is from a Down perspective is that at least the Ports gave them a bit of a game. 

I felt a bit queasy typing that. 

I'd also add, I don't see the ending of Antrim's dominance at Intercounty level within the province at adult, U20, minor, U16 being challenged anytime soon.

I think the junior is a bit of a farce with Lavey and Burt in it. The intermediate is definitely much more interesting and you wouldn't begrudge anyone it.

County won't change. Antrim have four very strong teams and Down and Derry are dominated by one club so there'll be more of a spread of players in antrim. It will be interesting seeing the difference in down and antrim inter county this year mind you. The last time I saw them play it was in Ballycran and there was a massive difference. I'd expect it to be closer this time as Davy is (arguably) not moving us particularly forwards.

Plus he is losing players from what I have heard, so maybe he won't hang around that long if that's the case.

Saturday was as I feared for the Johnnies, think even the score line flattered them if we are being honest. Was men against boys for most of it.

BG looking so sharp again will take some team to beat them if they are on form.

[imtommygunn]

BG should have way more than 1 AI with that team. I wouldn't rule them getting beat out yet but I would say it depends on who comes out of Leinster. SN are very good but hurling up here is rarely strong enough to really challenge the big guns like that. Big challenge for them in the semi.

[NAG1]

BG should have way more than 1 AI with that team. I wouldn't rule them getting beat out yet but I would say it depends on who comes out of Leinster. SN are very good but hurling up here is rarely strong enough to really challenge the big guns like that. Big challenge for them in the semi.

I expect them to give Loughrea their fill of it to be honest, two physical sides. I wouldn't be shocked if they come through it, but they will need more up front, all well and good playing O'Doherty in the half back line against St John's playing loose ball. I doubt he will get that luxury now as the level goes up.

[imtommygunn]

Yeah I would expect a tight game. You don't get out of Galway without being physical so I would expect a big challenge there. This is their best chance for a final avoiding BG and presumably BH (although I have a sneaky feeling they may get beat). It's now or never I would say.

[Na Glinntí Glasa]

Still feel nothing has changed over the weekend. Ballygunner are the team to beat and no one is even close to them this year from the games ive seen.

Sneill def are capable of making an All Ireland final but watching that game on Saturday wouldnt put much fear into anyone they would face.

[NorthAntrimSaff]

As someone previously stated St Johns will probably be 4th fav for antrim next year and I dont think they were that well equipped for a genuine push at Ulster. Cushendall have slid, Loughgiel are young and Dunloy seem to be distracted with the football and to win something new to them which shows good hunger

Intermediate has got stronger with the Derry restructure and Middletown dropping down. Glenariffe still very unlucky not to get over the line i feel. (See they have booted their management)

Junior we are weak i feel. Other counties grading system impacts this but overall we are not strong at this level and there are probably a few teams playing intermediate who could and should be playing here. Clubs dont want to drop as Div 2 and Intermediate is so well contested. Sarsfields potentially to stop this and deliver an Ulster junior next year?

[Saffron71]

What clubs at Division 2/Intermediate would you say should be dropping down to Junior?  We don't have a great record at Junior.  Only 5 clubs over 20 years have won it and since Lamh Dhearg were the last Antrim club to win it in 2016 we've only had two clubs reach the final (Cushendun in 2018 and Glenarm in 2022).  Other counties grading definitely has an impact on this too.  IMO in Derry the 5 clubs outside of slaughneill, Coleraine and Na Magha are all of similar standard and on any given day could beat each other.  So realistically you've 5 clubs who could either find themselves reaching a Derry SHC final or winning a Derry JHC and having a shot at an Ulster.