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lynchbhoy

Quote from: Main Street on May 30, 2014, 10:32:09 AM
Why do you think Keane would be good for Celtic? Keane has little tactical acumen apart from 'get stuck in' and 'don't fall asleep.' And  whilst he was good at times in the championship, his player purchases were mundane for the most part.
There is no comparison between Keane and say McClaren, who is a real coach with a coaching brain, a tactical overview and able to coach players to play a role in the team as well as  sussing out what players he needs for the team.
Keane has a history of haphazard player purchases, with no overview.
Lennon had to learn all that from scratch, an education in progress. For a start, Celtic need a manager who can spend whatever money wisely, on a couple of players and not get stuck like last season when Kayal got injured  for the season after a few minutes in Milan and Brown gets suspended for 3 games. They need to negotiate  3 rounds to get into the CL against teams who mostly  are match fit from summer football and then look to finish at least 3rd in a group. Then motivate the team to a consistent level of performance at home.

Id agree MS
however DD must see something in Keane - and I have been wrong about the Kaiser's soccer knowledge in the past !

id hope that keane if he takes the job is given money.
SPL will be easy and he wont do any worse than some other Celtic managers in Europe.

we need to get into epl - that's what DD wants
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Hotshot Hamish

Quote from: laoislad on May 24, 2014, 06:00:11 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 24, 2014, 02:43:49 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 23, 2014, 04:31:55 PM
No doubt Lennon has observed mediocrities like Rodgers, failing at Reading then walking into the Liverpool job ( a sideways move if ever there was one) and despite winning nothing being lauded as some sort of super manager, while he himself, against all the odds, led a team out of the group stages of the Champions League, got no credit whatsoever, and inevitably wondered what it would be like to manage in the English Premiership, retain all your star players, without  having to worry about being attacked for your faith or nationality, either in the street or on the sideline.


Tony is obsessed with Brendan Rodgers. He is still a bit sour he choose Liverpool over Spurs.

Let's face it,it doesn't matter who comes into manage Celtic they will win the league next season.
It's a sham of a league and whoever they get as manager they will be guaranteed to be league champions at the end of next season.If that's all they are looking for then sure Roddy Collins could do that.

What Celtic need is someone with European experience to help them get past the group stages and 2nd round in the Champions League.
Agree 100% with this.
Anyone can manage Celtic to a league title.  Its to improve and progress in Europe is what the club needs.
I doubt Keane is the man to do this.

Main Street

Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 30, 2014, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 30, 2014, 10:32:09 AM
Why do you think Keane would be good for Celtic? Keane has little tactical acumen apart from 'get stuck in' and 'don't fall asleep.' And  whilst he was good at times in the championship, his player purchases were mundane for the most part.
There is no comparison between Keane and say McClaren, who is a real coach with a coaching brain, a tactical overview and able to coach players to play a role in the team as well as  sussing out what players he needs for the team.
Keane has a history of haphazard player purchases, with no overview.
Lennon had to learn all that from scratch, an education in progress. For a start, Celtic need a manager who can spend whatever money wisely, on a couple of players and not get stuck like last season when Kayal got injured  for the season after a few minutes in Milan and Brown gets suspended for 3 games. They need to negotiate  3 rounds to get into the CL against teams who mostly  are match fit from summer football and then look to finish at least 3rd in a group. Then motivate the team to a consistent level of performance at home.

Id agree MS
however DD must see something in Keane - and I have been wrong about the Kaiser's soccer knowledge in the past !

id hope that keane if he takes the job is given money.
SPL will be easy and he wont do any worse than some other Celtic managers in Europe.

we need to get into epl - that's what DD wants
I don't even think navigating to the CL group stage is a done deal.
Even more experienced managers than Keane (Strachan and MON),  came a cropper  with better Celtic teams  in CL qualifiers.

Normally I would be reluctant to hit  below the belt with the memory of Artmedia, in order to get over a point of view :)

Applesisapples

Lets be a little real here. Celtic can't afford or attract top class players so how can they attract a top class manager. Keane deserves another chance and could be good for Celtic in terms of the interest he would generate and his pedigree might attract players. Not saying this is a given, but might. Nothing to be lost as even I could win the SPL with Celtic at the moment.

foxcommander

Emilio Izaguirre and Mikael Lustig sign new 3 year Celtic contracts.

Interesting that this is the case when a new manager isn't even on board. Peter Lawwell must be picking the team.

Can't wait for Rangers v Hibs/Hearts next season personally.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

bennydorano

Genuine chance that Rangers might not get promoted next year.

Main Street

Quote from: Applesisapples on May 30, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
Lets be a little real here. Celtic can't afford or attract top class players so how can they attract a top class manager. Keane deserves another chance and could be good for Celtic in terms of the interest he would generate and his pedigree might attract players. Not saying this is a given, but might. Nothing to be lost as even I could win the SPL with Celtic at the moment.
Winning the spl is not the target, that's taken for granted, most everything hinges on CL qualification, group participation prize money and possibly more.
What salary do you think Keane will expect?
He's on Eur700k as an assistant manager for an intl team, has his lucrative pundit job and plenty of spare time to walk the dog. You could get somebody like Steve McClaren for less than Roy would cost.
There are no guarantees that any appointment would work or vice versa.


Milltown Row2

Which of the recent past managers of Celtic had league success in other countries and have any of them won the champions league?

I'm talking managerial success
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

stew

Quote from: Main Street on May 30, 2014, 09:18:33 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 30, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
Lets be a little real here. Celtic can't afford or attract top class players so how can they attract a top class manager. Keane deserves another chance and could be good for Celtic in terms of the interest he would generate and his pedigree might attract players. Not saying this is a given, but might. Nothing to be lost as even I could win the SPL with Celtic at the moment.
Winning the spl is not the target, that's taken for granted, most everything hinges on CL qualification, group participation prize money and possibly more.
What salary do you think Keane will expect?
He's on Eur700k as an assistant manager for an intl team, has his lucrative pundit job and plenty of spare time to walk the dog. You could get somebody like Steve McClaren for less than Roy would cost.
There are no guarantees that any appointment would work or vice versa.

Keane can't even walk the dog without getting into trouble ffs.

The last thing Celtic needs is another polarizing Irishman at the helm! Fergie is available on waivers, shoot for the moon and all that!!!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

bennydorano

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2014, 09:38:08 PM
Which of the recent past managers of Celtic had league success in other countries and have any of them won the champions league?

I'm talking managerial success
Venglos & Jansen would be the only possible ones i can think of, others were uk based for most of their careers. No CL success

T Fearon

Desmond personally bankrolled Keane 's salary when he played for Celtic, he still has the ear of O'Neill and I gather he was instrumental in pairing O'Neill and Keane together as Irish team managers.

He obviously believes Keane 's name will sell season tickets and perhaps attract players to Celtic Park,I can see no other reason for this

Milltown Row2

Quote from: T Fearon on May 30, 2014, 11:00:39 PM
Desmond personally bankrolled Keane 's salary when he played for Celtic, he still has the ear of O'Neill and I gather he was instrumental in pairing O'Neill and Keane together as Irish team managers.

He obviously believes Keane 's name will sell season tickets and perhaps attract players to Celtic Park,I can see no other reason for this

So you think he'll be a failure?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

charlieTully

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2014, 11:27:26 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 30, 2014, 11:00:39 PM
Desmond personally bankrolled Keane 's salary when he played for Celtic, he still has the ear of O'Neill and I gather he was instrumental in pairing O'Neill and Keane together as Irish team managers.

He obviously believes Keane 's name will sell season tickets and perhaps attract players to Celtic Park,I can see no other reason for this

So you think he'll be a failure?

go away milltown.

laoislad

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2014, 11:27:26 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 30, 2014, 11:00:39 PM
Desmond personally bankrolled Keane 's salary when he played for Celtic, he still has the ear of O'Neill and I gather he was instrumental in pairing O'Neill and Keane together as Irish team managers.

He obviously believes Keane 's name will sell season tickets and perhaps attract players to Celtic Park,I can see no other reason for this

So you think he'll be a failure?
It's Roy Keane. It's going to end badly whatever happens in between.
Joe McDonagh 2026 🏆

T Fearon

Not optimistic,except of course this was all part of a plan.Knew Lennon was leaving 6 months ago,pair Keane with O'Neill to get him some tutoring in how to deal with players,check progress with O'Neill who reckons he's learned enough to be let go on his own