Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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UtilityMan

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Quote from: RouskyRanger on July 28, 2026, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 28, 2026, 08:40:28 AMRe: Tyrone leagues.

On this thread all the time is talk of relegation.

A very negative mindset. Top of league/winners never hardly mentioned.

Strange.

It is more value to talk about the likes of derrylaughan, kildress, rock, fianna, Dungannon and omagh possibly going down than newton or Eglish winning the league.

The old saying goes nobody cares or remembers the league winners in Tyrone, only the championship

Fianna up and down, omagh have been looking at the trap door for few years. Kildress are ladies club, makes sense.


League doesn't matter in 1, more of a nuisance if you're going deep in Championship.  Relegation talk in D1 is due to a longtime senior team heading for the trap door as the typical yoyo teams seem to have survived it this year.

League is massive D2 and D3 as another method of promotion to a higher level anyone who says different is wrong. D2 is the best value to watch, teams can get very easily pulled into relegation playoffs after a double weekend. Although removal of the promotion playoffs can leave a lot of dead rubbers at the upper end towards Round 14/15 as only the Championship and League winners are promoted, personally would have kept the promotion playoff format from last year, 2 teams was the sweet spot, 4 was too much.

Sean Coyle

Quote from: UtilityMan on July 28, 2026, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on July 28, 2026, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 28, 2026, 08:40:28 AMRe: Tyrone leagues.

On this thread all the time is talk of relegation.

A very negative mindset. Top of league/winners never hardly mentioned.

Strange.

It is more value to talk about the likes of derrylaughan, kildress, rock, fianna, Dungannon and omagh possibly going down than newton or Eglish winning the league.

The old saying goes nobody cares or remembers the league winners in Tyrone, only the championship

Fianna up and down, omagh have been looking at the trap door for few years. Kildress are ladies club, makes sense.


League doesn't matter in 1, more of a nuisance if you're going deep in Championship.  Relegation talk in D1 is due to a longtime senior team heading for the trap door as the typical yoyo teams seem to have survived it this year.

League is massive D2 and D3 as another method of promotion to a higher level anyone who says different is wrong. D2 is the best value to watch, teams can get very easily pulled into relegation playoffs after a double weekend. Although removal of the promotion playoffs can leave a lot of dead rubbers at the upper end towards Round 14/15 as only the Championship and League winners are promoted, personally would have kept the promotion playoff format from last year, 2 teams was the sweet spot, 4 was too much.
:-X

Divsion 2 and 3 are good for getting up but what use is that. On these off years where it looks like newton are going up, it is absolutely no use to them. They have zero good minor teams in the last decade, all well and good going up to senior but if you are going to get hammered in every game your not learning anything.

DouglasBridgeExile

Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 10:30:27 AM
Quote from: UtilityMan on July 28, 2026, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on July 28, 2026, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 28, 2026, 08:40:28 AMRe: Tyrone leagues.

On this thread all the time is talk of relegation.

A very negative mindset. Top of league/winners never hardly mentioned.

Strange.

It is more value to talk about the likes of derrylaughan, kildress, rock, fianna, Dungannon and omagh possibly going down than newton or Eglish winning the league.

The old saying goes nobody cares or remembers the league winners in Tyrone, only the championship

Fianna up and down, omagh have been looking at the trap door for few years. Kildress are ladies club, makes sense.


League doesn't matter in 1, more of a nuisance if you're going deep in Championship.  Relegation talk in D1 is due to a longtime senior team heading for the trap door as the typical yoyo teams seem to have survived it this year.

League is massive D2 and D3 as another method of promotion to a higher level anyone who says different is wrong. D2 is the best value to watch, teams can get very easily pulled into relegation playoffs after a double weekend. Although removal of the promotion playoffs can leave a lot of dead rubbers at the upper end towards Round 14/15 as only the Championship and League winners are promoted, personally would have kept the promotion playoff format from last year, 2 teams was the sweet spot, 4 was too much.
:-X

Divsion 2 and 3 are good for getting up but what use is that. On these off years where it looks like newton are going up, it is absolutely no use to them. They have zero good minor teams in the last decade, all well and good going up to senior but if you are going to get hammered in every game your not learning anything.

So should teams just throw in the towel to avoid going up and experiencing senior football on the chance they might get hammered?

Sean Coyle

Quote from: DouglasBridgeExile on July 28, 2026, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 10:30:27 AM
Quote from: UtilityMan on July 28, 2026, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on July 28, 2026, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 28, 2026, 08:40:28 AMRe: Tyrone leagues.

On this thread all the time is talk of relegation.

A very negative mindset. Top of league/winners never hardly mentioned.

Strange.

It is more value to talk about the likes of derrylaughan, kildress, rock, fianna, Dungannon and omagh possibly going down than newton or Eglish winning the league.

The old saying goes nobody cares or remembers the league winners in Tyrone, only the championship

Fianna up and down, omagh have been looking at the trap door for few years. Kildress are ladies club, makes sense.


League doesn't matter in 1, more of a nuisance if you're going deep in Championship.  Relegation talk in D1 is due to a longtime senior team heading for the trap door as the typical yoyo teams seem to have survived it this year.

League is massive D2 and D3 as another method of promotion to a higher level anyone who says different is wrong. D2 is the best value to watch, teams can get very easily pulled into relegation playoffs after a double weekend. Although removal of the promotion playoffs can leave a lot of dead rubbers at the upper end towards Round 14/15 as only the Championship and League winners are promoted, personally would have kept the promotion playoff format from last year, 2 teams was the sweet spot, 4 was too much.
:-X

Divsion 2 and 3 are good for getting up but what use is that. On these off years where it looks like newton are going up, it is absolutely no use to them. They have zero good minor teams in the last decade, all well and good going up to senior but if you are going to get hammered in every game your not learning anything.

So should teams just throw in the towel to avoid going up and experiencing senior football on the chance they might get hammered?

May aswell do in newtons case. Different if you're going up and capable of competing. E.g moortown.

WesternBaller

Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 11:18:15 AM
Quote from: DouglasBridgeExile on July 28, 2026, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 10:30:27 AM
Quote from: UtilityMan on July 28, 2026, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on July 28, 2026, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 28, 2026, 08:40:28 AMRe: Tyrone leagues.

On this thread all the time is talk of relegation.

A very negative mindset. Top of league/winners never hardly mentioned.

Strange.

It is more value to talk about the likes of derrylaughan, kildress, rock, fianna, Dungannon and omagh possibly going down than newton or Eglish winning the league.

The old saying goes nobody cares or remembers the league winners in Tyrone, only the championship

Fianna up and down, omagh have been looking at the trap door for few years. Kildress are ladies club, makes sense.


League doesn't matter in 1, more of a nuisance if you're going deep in Championship.  Relegation talk in D1 is due to a longtime senior team heading for the trap door as the typical yoyo teams seem to have survived it this year.

League is massive D2 and D3 as another method of promotion to a higher level anyone who says different is wrong. D2 is the best value to watch, teams can get very easily pulled into relegation playoffs after a double weekend. Although removal of the promotion playoffs can leave a lot of dead rubbers at the upper end towards Round 14/15 as only the Championship and League winners are promoted, personally would have kept the promotion playoff format from last year, 2 teams was the sweet spot, 4 was too much.
:-X

Divsion 2 and 3 are good for getting up but what use is that. On these off years where it looks like newton are going up, it is absolutely no use to them. They have zero good minor teams in the last decade, all well and good going up to senior but if you are going to get hammered in every game your not learning anything.

So should teams just throw in the towel to avoid going up and experiencing senior football on the chance they might get hammered?

May aswell do in newtons case. Different if you're going up and capable of competing. E.g moortown.
What a thing to come out with
How can you consider NE not being capable of competing at a higher level, when they are 10/10.

Even if teams go up to come straight back down there is still positives of going up to D1, (I.E) a largely increased gate when the bigger teams come to town and a bit of buzz around your club having senior status.

Promotion of any sort not to be sniffed at
 

WT4E

Quote from: WesternBaller on July 28, 2026, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 11:18:15 AM
Quote from: DouglasBridgeExile on July 28, 2026, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 10:30:27 AM
Quote from: UtilityMan on July 28, 2026, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on July 28, 2026, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 28, 2026, 08:40:28 AMRe: Tyrone leagues.

On this thread all the time is talk of relegation.

A very negative mindset. Top of league/winners never hardly mentioned.

Strange.

It is more value to talk about the likes of derrylaughan, kildress, rock, fianna, Dungannon and omagh possibly going down than newton or Eglish winning the league.

The old saying goes nobody cares or remembers the league winners in Tyrone, only the championship

Fianna up and down, omagh have been looking at the trap door for few years. Kildress are ladies club, makes sense.


League doesn't matter in 1, more of a nuisance if you're going deep in Championship.  Relegation talk in D1 is due to a longtime senior team heading for the trap door as the typical yoyo teams seem to have survived it this year.

League is massive D2 and D3 as another method of promotion to a higher level anyone who says different is wrong. D2 is the best value to watch, teams can get very easily pulled into relegation playoffs after a double weekend. Although removal of the promotion playoffs can leave a lot of dead rubbers at the upper end towards Round 14/15 as only the Championship and League winners are promoted, personally would have kept the promotion playoff format from last year, 2 teams was the sweet spot, 4 was too much.
:-X

Divsion 2 and 3 are good for getting up but what use is that. On these off years where it looks like newton are going up, it is absolutely no use to them. They have zero good minor teams in the last decade, all well and good going up to senior but if you are going to get hammered in every game your not learning anything.

So should teams just throw in the towel to avoid going up and experiencing senior football on the chance they might get hammered?

May aswell do in newtons case. Different if you're going up and capable of competing. E.g moortown.
What a thing to come out with
How can you consider NE not being capable of competing at a higher level, when they are 10/10.

Even if teams go up to come straight back down there is still positives of going up to D1, (I.E) a largely increased gate when the bigger teams come to town and a bit of buzz around your club having senior status.

Promotion of any sort not to be sniffed at
 

You are being caught by a joke poster.

Agree on this whether they go down or not it is still a big thing for the club. Even if current minors or U16s don't get to that level having your 6s 8s 10s and 12s and sitting around a whole season of watching the best players in Tyrone turn up to play your club could be the boost the club needs.

A young Newton lad seeing McElholm, McCurry, Canavan, Clarke, McKernan, Kilpatrick in action at their pitch.... priceless!

Goals_Will_Come

Very few clubs over the years have gone up to Senior and gone straight back down the following season. Urney, Tattyreagh and Derrylaughan the only ones I can think of over the last 10 years.

snowy2hunt

D1
Round 10
Omagh v Trillick
Edendork v Clonoe
Dromore v Donaghmore
Dungannon v Loughmacrory
Ardboe v Eglish
Galbally v Killyclogher
Moortown v Errigal
Carrickmore v Fianna


Round 11
Loughmacrory v Galbally
Omagh v Killyclogher 
Edendork v Dungannon
Clonoe v Eglish -
Donaghmore v Moortown
Dromore v Trillick
Fianna v Ardboe
Carrickmore v Errigal


D2
Round 11
Moy v Pomeroy 
Naomh Eoghan v Clogher
Gortin v Aghyaran -
Greencastle v Drumquin -
Owen Roes v Rock
Kildress v Derrylaughlan
Aghaloo v Beragh 
Cookstown v Killeeshil


Round 12
Drumquin v Gortin
Cookstown v Pomeroy -
Clogher v Killeeshil
Rock v Greencastle
Kildress v Naomh Eoghan
Beragh v Moy
Aghyaran v Aghaloo
Derrylaughlan v Owen Roes


Ballygawleyftw

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on July 28, 2026, 12:12:09 PMVery few clubs over the years have gone up to Senior and gone straight back down the following season. Urney, Tattyreagh and Derrylaughan the only ones I can think of over the last 10 years.
Gortin and Clonoe

Sean Coyle

cant believe im being called a joke poster for having an opinion. clear as day newtown arent fit to compete in division 1. look at derrlaughan real chance of back to back relegations, could easily happen to newton. without mayse mcsorley and devine they are absolutely nothing. being 10 for 10 in the worst intermediate in years isnt the success story you think it is.

John Warnock

Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 12:44:15 PMcant believe im being called a joke poster for having an opinion. clear as day newtown arent fit to compete in division 1. look at derrlaughan real chance of back to back relegations, could easily happen to newton. without mayse mcsorley and devine they are absolutely nothing. being 10 for 10 in the worst intermediate in years isnt the success story you think it is.
Jealousy is an awful trait to have.

DouglasBridgeExile

Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 12:44:15 PMcant believe im being called a joke poster for having an opinion. clear as day newtown arent fit to compete in division 1. look at derrlaughan real chance of back to back relegations, could easily happen to newton. without mayse mcsorley and devine they are absolutely nothing. being 10 for 10 in the worst intermediate in years isnt the success story you think it is.
Most ridiculous post i've read on here in a while. Theres very few teams in Tyrone if any could compete at the same level they are if you take key players out of their team. Errigal this year for example. The good news for Naomh Eoghan is they aren't without them

Sean Coyle

Quote from: DouglasBridgeExile on July 28, 2026, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: Sean Coyle on July 28, 2026, 12:44:15 PMcant believe im being called a joke poster for having an opinion. clear as day newtown arent fit to compete in division 1. look at derrlaughan real chance of back to back relegations, could easily happen to newton. without mayse mcsorley and devine they are absolutely nothing. being 10 for 10 in the worst intermediate in years isnt the success story you think it is.
Most ridiculous post i've read on here in a while. Theres very few teams in Tyrone if any could compete at the same level they are if you take key players out of their team. Errigal this year for example. The good news for Naomh Eoghan is they aren't without them
I'll be back next year when they 8 points from safety with 4 to play 👍🏻

Winthebreak

While NE are doing well, they're far from over the line yet. Tough double round this weekend, Clogher H and Kildress A. If anything, results recently would tell you that Clogher could win that one and Kildress scrapping for survival is a dangerous game. Owen Roes ready to pounce on any NE slip ups. Alot could change in the next few weeks.

DouglasBridgeExile

Quote from: Winthebreak on July 28, 2026, 03:48:10 PMWhile NE are doing well, they're far from over the line yet. Tough double round this weekend, Clogher H and Kildress A. If anything, results recently would tell you that Clogher could win that one and Kildress scrapping for survival is a dangerous game. Owen Roes ready to pounce on any NE slip ups. Alot could change in the next few weeks.

There will be twists and turns yet. Owen roes next 3 games are against rock and derrylaughan who after kileeshils win last night could be dragged into trouble as well as cookstown which is another hard game.