Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Goals_Will_Come]

No football for 8 months then 3 games in 8 days. Let's see how bodies hold up to all these double weekends.

The county board see the tyrone leauges as an inconvinence with no regard for player welfare.

Then come championship when its cash out time....they pretend like they care.

Clubs need to have a back bone and not stand for this shit.

This schedule has been forced upon the county board by clubs not budging on structure changes and then by Tyrone being drew out in the Preliminary round of Ulster.
Clubs and the county board need to come together and look at a different structure that allows a league to get underway at the start of May regardless of how the U20s are performing.

I don't agree that the released schedule has been forced on them to the extent that they begin the league with a double round.

Players going from no games to two games within less than 48hrs??? That's madness in anyone's eyes - unless you are sitting behind laptop screen making up fixtures, with no idea how players and teams recover and prepare from game to game.

With a little bit more creative thinking they could certainly spread the games out a little better, even within a compressed window of June to August.

For example why not look at a Friday - Wednesday - Sunday week in June and the same again later in the league. Or at least let clubs have some ability to arrange games between themselves if they so agree.

You have to factor in your Minor Season which will run on Wednesdays and Tyrone Senior's schedule. Pretty tied.
I don't think all the blame can be laid at the county board's door step. Change is needed but needs to come from clubs as well.

[The Bearded One]

But you are arguing clubs should play on without u20 players? Surely then, it would be ludicrous not to arrange a better senior schedule just because of a minor competition?

Play minors on the Friday night and seniors on the Wednesday if it comes to it.

I'm not suggesting that happens every week but it can be done with some sort of thinking.

[Quarterbackk]

No football for 8 months then 3 games in 8 days. Let's see how bodies hold up to all these double weekends.

The county board see the tyrone leauges as an inconvinence with no regard for player welfare.

Then come championship when its cash out time....they pretend like they care.

Clubs need to have a back bone and not stand for this shit.

Another person on this thread who has not one f**king clue about anything to do with how football league are run.

This is the second time you come at me you fkwit. I have sat in numerous committees and understand fully the way it works. I have also watch my son suffer i jury afyer injury. How does every other county in Ireland work.  If you think club men not playing football for 9 month is acceptable you haven't an ounce of sense. You must be a Tyrone TV Moneyman.

[GlenMan]

No football for 8 months then 3 games in 8 days. Let's see how bodies hold up to all these double weekends.

The county board see the tyrone leauges as an inconvinence with no regard for player welfare.

Then come championship when its cash out time....they pretend like they care.

Clubs need to have a back bone and not stand for this shit.

Another person on this thread who has not one f**king clue about anything to do with how football league are run.

This is the second time you come at me you fkwit. I have sat in numerous committees and understand fully the way it works. I have also watch my son suffer i jury afyer injury. How does every other county in Ireland work.  If you think club men not playing football for 9 month is acceptable you haven't an ounce of sense. You must be a Tyrone TV Moneyman.

Every other county begins their league in March with no concern if County players ever play a single minute.

Our Clubs don't want that, and it would totally devalue the competition if it happened.

It'd be easy to start our leagues early - just tell Clubs that they have to play all their games without Senior / U20 players.

[In hiding]

From a selfish angle.
It would be lovely to head to a refixed club game this evening if there was one happening.
Even an aul minor game
I suppose I could go to Slaughtneil and Glen tomorrow evening

[thewobbler]

No football for 8 months then 3 games in 8 days. Let's see how bodies hold up to all these double weekends.

The county board see the tyrone leauges as an inconvinence with no regard for player welfare.

Then come championship when its cash out time....they pretend like they care.

Clubs need to have a back bone and not stand for this shit.

Another person on this thread who has not one f**king clue about anything to do with how football league are run.

This is the second time you come at me you fkwit. I have sat in numerous committees and understand fully the way it works. I have also watch my son suffer i jury afyer injury. How does every other county in Ireland work.  If you think club men not playing football for 9 month is acceptable you haven't an ounce of sense. You must be a Tyrone TV Moneyman.

You don't understand shit.

[In hiding]

No football for 8 months then 3 games in 8 days. Let's see how bodies hold up to all these double weekends.

The county board see the tyrone leauges as an inconvinence with no regard for player welfare.

Then come championship when its cash out time....they pretend like they care.

Clubs need to have a back bone and not stand for this shit.

Another person on this thread who has not one f**king clue about anything to do with how football league are run.

This is the second time you come at me you fkwit. I have sat in numerous committees and understand fully the way it works. I have also watch my son suffer i jury afyer injury. How does every other county in Ireland work.  If you think club men not playing football for 9 month is acceptable you haven't an ounce of sense. You must be a Tyrone TV Moneyman.

You don't understand shit.

Are you gallsman in disguise

[Christmas Lights]

Look it comes down to the clubs and how much value is put on league that they simply don't want to play without their county men. That is totally admirable and what sets Tyrone apart from other counties who just play away without county men. The pay off is the fixtures, there isn't really any other way round it, a June start and everything has to be condensed. There are a lot of league fixtures to be played in a short space of time. Double fixture weekends are needed.

[thewobbler]

Look it comes down to the clubs and how much value is put on league that they simply don't want to play without their county men. That is totally admirable and what sets Tyrone apart from other counties who just play away without county men. The pay off is the fixtures, there isn't really any other way round it, a June start and everything has to be condensed. There are a lot of league fixtures to be played in a short space of time. Double fixture weekends are needed.

It's not even slightly admirable.

It's anti-sport.

[RedHand88]

Kerry are 4 or 5 games into their league at this stage and they are in the same boat as us, actually worse because they didn't have a 4week gap between county games.

[Goals_Will_Come]

Is there a solution to be found in Dromore's 2024 recommendations?

That the Tyrone All County League and championship
format be amended as follows:
1. Restructure of 4 Divisions – Three Divisions of 12
(Divisions 1, 2 and 3A) and one of 13 (Division 3B)
- League Stage 1 – All teams Play 11 (12 in Division 3B)
league games from April to June (without county players)
- League Stage 2 - After the completion of Leaue Stage
1, divisions are split in half (with County players available
for ALL games). The top 6 (7 for Division 3B) play off for
league title in a league format, with the team finishing
top being league champions.
- Bottom 6 play off in league format to avoid relegation,
bottom 2 teams being automatically relegated
2. For the County Championship – top 4 teams in each
division (at the end of league stage 2) proceed straight
to championship quarter finals. The Remaining 8 teams
enter into an open draw in the championship first round,
the winners of the first round progress to the quarter
finals. The championship quarter finals draw to have the
teams in the top 4 in each division (at the end of league
stage 2) to be drawn against one each of the winners of
the championship first round.
(CLG Naomh Damhnait, An Droim Mór)

RECOMMENDATION 7
That the Tyrone All County League format be amended as
follows:
Divisions 1 and 2
1. Stage 1 - Senior League to start in April and to be
played with maximum of 10 starred games played
between April and the end of June, followed by 5 nonstarred games (i.e. with county players) to be played
after Tyrone's exit from the Senior and U20 All-Ireland
Championships. Starred games to carry a points total of 2
points for a winning team and 1 for a draw and the 'nonstarred' games to carry a points total of 3 points for a win
and 1 for a draw.
2. Stage 2 – Top 8 teams in stage 1 to play off in a
knockout format for the league title with the 1st placed
team to play 8th placed team, 2nd placed team to play
7th placed team, 3rd placed team playing the 6th placed
team and 4th placed team playing 5th placed team,
team 1 to 4 having home advantage with semi-finals
and final at a neutral venue. Bottom 8 teams to play
in a knockout format with the 9th placed team playing
the 16th placed team, the 10th placed team playing the
15th placed team, the 11th placed team playing the 14th
placed team and the 12th placed team playing the 13th
placed team, teams 9 to 12 having home advantage,
the winners of these games being safe from relegation,
the losers playing each other at a neutral venue with the
losers of this second round of games being relegated ....
The exception being in the case of one of the losers in
the relegation play-offs winning the championship in
which case the lowest placed team in stage 1 not already
relegated bring then relegated.
Divisions 3A & 3B
Divisions 3A and 3B to remain in the same format as
already proposed for 2025

[O’neill Army]

Kerry are 4 or 5 games into their league at this stage and they are in the same boat as us, actually worse because they didn't have a 4week gap between county games.

Tyrone is the only county in Ireland that base their club championship on their club leagues (div 1 senior, div 2 intermediate etc).that's why league football is so competitive and why it is delayed with the u20s.

Kerry as you mentioned are able to play their leagues as it doesn't matter in terms of championship football which is fairly obvious when they have division 1 teams winning intermediate and junior all Irelands

[square_ball]

Do Armagh not base their championship on what league you are in?

[statto]

Do Armagh not base their championship on what league you are in?

They do. 1a and 1b (8 teams in each) make up senior championship, 2a and 2b make up intermediate and rest are in junior.

Teams are then seeded for group stage depending on league finish,eg first 4 teams are seed 1. I find it works well however, teams in 1b and 2b get 2 home games in group which I would personally change.

[TheGlenellyGremlin]

We will beat eskra out the gates today and make a statement for the Pat Darcy cup