Ulster Championship 2026

[Armagh4sam2024]

Derry shat the nest. apprentice boys laffin as yiz...

[rodney trotter]

With every passing year it shows how brilliant a manager RG was and how he had that Derry team flying.

Theyd have beat Monaghan by 15 plus today if he was in charge.

He had them flying to an extent. They weren't flying against Galway in the all Ireland semi.  Persisting with lynch coming out of goals and him as slow as a tortoise at getting back.

Rogers, McKinless were in their prime then. It could be their last year

[onefineday]

Why any free worth 2 points, when a goal only worth 3.

It's ridiculous, that and the hooter are the two changes which have not improved the game at all. And before anyone starts rolling out the mantra that teams would be lining up to foul outside the arc, no they wouldn't - the mathematics would dictate that if you're close enough to foul, you'd better to let the player shoot as the under pressure 2-pt shot yields a lower expected value than a 1pt free from the same place.

[straightred]

Beggan is some man. That is the stuff of dreams.

[AustinPowers]

Why any free worth 2 points, when a goal only worth 3.

Why any kick is  worth 2 points is beyond me.

That  2 pointer   and arc is a  feckin scurge

[screenexile]

Why any free worth 2 points, when a goal only worth 3.

Why any kick is  worth 2 points is beyond me.

That  2 pointer   and arc is a  feckin scurge

It's not! It made that game great today... I do think the 2 pointer should be confined to open play though!

[J70]

Why any free worth 2 points, when a goal only worth 3.

Sure it was gonna be a 4pt goal til it wasn't

Why did they drop that one so early?

[EoinW]

The last time I saw this many 2 pointers the Harlem Globetrotters were playing.  I'm going to be counting 2 pointers in my sleep tonight!

Remarkable that Monaghan could stink the joint out for 55 minutes then steal a championship win.  We sure got to see the new rules in all their "glory" today.  I'm wondering how long we'll have to wait to see a team score 40 points and lose.

Then there is the Dublin "keep ball" alternative.  I did warn that the new rules would lead to 1) offences revolving around 2 pointers and 2) teams working the clock.

Last week we saw a Jim McGuinness defence shredded.  Do we conclude that the only way to defend 3v3 is to deny the opposition possession?

Quite a Saturday.  In Leinster, a cure for insomnia.  In Ulster, a 3 ring circus.

[ranch]

The 2 pointer has been a terrible rule, certainly in its current form. I'd understand if it had been from outside the 45 to actually encourage great scores-instead we have what were always routine points now worth double. Other than the solo and go I don't think any of the other rule changes have significantly improved the game-don't get me started on the 1v1 throw in!

[OgraAnDun]

The 2 pointer has been a terrible rule, certainly in its current form. I'd understand if it had been from outside the 45 to actually encourage great scores-instead we have what were always routine points now worth double. Other than the solo and go I don't think any of the other rule changes have significantly improved the game-don't get me started on the 1v1 throw in!

Previously it was work the ball to death until you get into position for the percentage score, shots from outside the ark weren't exactly "routine" as they were low probability and therefore discouraged.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

With every passing year it shows how brilliant a manager RG was and how he had that Derry team flying.

Theyd have beat Monaghan by 15 plus today if he was in charge.

He had them flying to an extent. They weren't flying against Galway in the all Ireland semi.  Persisting with lynch coming out of goals and him as slow as a tortoise at getting back.

Rogers, McKinless were in their prime then. It could be their last year

Fair point but they comprehensively beat a better Monaghan team than that by a big score. Game today was following a similar path dont think they'd have let Monaghan back into it under his tenure.

On a side note I though Derrys keeper today looked very good until that bad kickout to Beggan.

Also have some the Derry players bulked up an awful lot compared to last year.

[onefineday]

Why any free worth 2 points, when a goal only worth 3.

Sure it was gonna be a 4pt goal til it wasn't

Why did they drop that one so early?

The 4 pt goal rule got a run out in the inter-pro trials in croker in Oct/Nov 24. They were dropped immediately afterwards because the frc was warned that Congress wouldn't vote the rules through if this was included. Apparently many delegates saw the amount of goals and chances in the trial games and felt that this would lead to even bigger drubbings in mismatched provincial championship games.
I won't comment on their mathematical abilities, but increasing the value of a relatively routine score by 100% might be seen as more likely to increase margins than increasing the value of a goal by 33%.

All in all, I can live with 2-pointers from play, the dessie ward score yesterday is an example of what we want, that and the countless examples that meath in particular have delivered. But should any of Derry's well worked team goals be worth just 1pt more than Beggan's routine 50m chip from in front of the posts??

[onefineday]

The last time I saw this many 2 pointers the Harlem Globetrotters were playing.  I'm going to be counting 2 pointers in my sleep tonight!

Remarkable that Monaghan could stink the joint out for 55 minutes then steal a championship win.  We sure got to see the new rules in all their "glory" today.  I'm wondering how long we'll have to wait to see a team score 40 points and lose.

Then there is the Dublin "keep ball" alternative.  I did warn that the new rules would lead to 1) offences revolving around 2 pointers and 2) teams working the clock.

Last week we saw a Jim McGuinness defence shredded.  Do we conclude that the only way to defend 3v3 is to deny the opposition possession?

Quite a Saturday.  In Leinster, a cure for insomnia.  In Ulster, a 3 ring circus.

You surely did, and whilst that leinster game was horrible, it wasn't long ago that the majority of games were like that. Change was needed, but we do need a few tweaks.

[Armagh Girl]

Good luck to the boys today, let's turn Clones Orange .......Armagh by 3 🧡🤍

[marty34]

People talk about the bravery of Mc Carron to take the shot but for me, more important than that was the technique and for this, he hasn't been given enough credit. An unreal kick - from the videos from behind him you can see what he's aiming at and it's not much!


Now the sideline is tight and narrow in the AG and he's on the edge of arc and then to slice it - of all the types of kicks - is magic. His technique is shocking good. Straight as an arrow. A lot of the time an off the boot shot like that is either perfect or it goes 30 ft wide. No inbetween.


So people will talk about Beggan and rightly so but that wouldn't be possible without Mc Carron's glory shot.

Key question is it better than Maurice Fitz's effort...I say it is without a doubt.