Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[trileacman]

Whether you like it or not Brennan kept Burns out of the team last year and I don't see how you could overlook him this week given how wide open our defence was last week. There is a strong argument for Brennan at 3 and Burns at 6.

Out the field I'd rest Kennedy, if he's just coming back to fitness I see no need to flog him in what will be a dogfight of a match. He's a good sub option and Conn, Oguz and Daly are more than good enough to cover MF. Conn needs to be given freer reign by the management. Twice the last day he made a bursting run through the centre of defence and was entitled to have a shot from 30 yards, he threw the ball out wide both times to a player in a worse position and the initiative was lost.

Contrary to opinion I'd start J Clarke but not the other 2. He's a fit young lad, Sigerson is not that high intensity as IC football and I don't see why he can't do 40-50mins of the Derry game. He was too good the last day to overlook. No defender matched anywhere near his performance level (as regards defending).

As for up front, I'd start Jordan and Canavan so long as he's fit. The idea that McGarrity is some all-star, fix all player to whom we can just launch shitty passes and he'll clean up is laughable. Start 4 half-forwards and only play 2 inside, freeing up space for those to play. Playing our forwards in a slow crowded attack is our biggest weakness, we need to focus much more on fast counters and creating space inside for our forwards. Other teams can do it and so should we.

[Topoftheworld]

I have never seen Conn shoot before so dont think its anything to do with mgmt. thats always been his game, burst through and lay off to mccurry canavan etc on the loop. dont get me wrong hes great at it when at full flow cant be stopped

[DaleCooper]

Hes a bit like Oguz. Can put over a spectacular but odd time will corner flag it.

[NotedObserver]

Yes but a big 2 pointer against Armagh in Ulster last year. Has it in him but not big part of game for him

[tyrone08]

I have never seen Conn shoot before so dont think its anything to do with mgmt. thats always been his game, burst through and lay off to mccurry canavan etc on the loop. dont get me wrong hes great at it when at full flow cant be stopped

Biggest thing conn can work on is his temper. Always get the feeling he is a red card waiting to happen in every game

[NotedObserver]

Conor Oneill very impressive for queens. Playing at 6 and diving forward with the head up. Ronan Cassidy scoring well also

[Hand of God]

Whether you like it or not Brennan kept Burns out of the team last year and I don't see how you could overlook him this week given how wide open our defence was last week. There is a strong argument for Brennan at 3 and Burns at 6.

Out the field I'd rest Kennedy, if he's just coming back to fitness I see no need to flog him in what will be a dogfight of a match. He's a good sub option and Conn, Oguz and Daly are more than good enough to cover MF. Conn needs to be given freer reign by the management. Twice the last day he made a bursting run through the centre of defence and was entitled to have a shot from 30 yards, he threw the ball out wide both times to a player in a worse position and the initiative was lost.

Contrary to opinion I'd start J Clarke but not the other 2. He's a fit young lad, Sigerson is not that high intensity as IC football and I don't see why he can't do 40-50mins of the Derry game. He was too good the last day to overlook. No defender matched anywhere near his performance level (as regards defending).

As for up front, I'd start Jordan and Canavan so long as he's fit. The idea that McGarrity is some all-star, fix all player to whom we can just launch shitty passes and he'll clean up is laughable. Start 4 half-forwards and only play 2 inside, freeing up space for those to play. Playing our forwards in a slow crowded attack is our biggest weakness, we need to focus much more on fast counters and creating space inside for our forwards. Other teams can do it and so should we.

I've never once heard anyone say that about McGarrity. There's a reason his name is put about. He's 6ft2 and a completely different profile of inside forward than we have. If you want to continue persisting with two little guys in there who struggle to win their own ball then by all means sneer at the option of playing McGarrity inside.

We gave badly lacked a physical presence in the forward line for years. Donnelly isn't cutting it there.

[trileacman]

Whether you like it or not Brennan kept Burns out of the team last year and I don't see how you could overlook him this week given how wide open our defence was last week. There is a strong argument for Brennan at 3 and Burns at 6.

Out the field I'd rest Kennedy, if he's just coming back to fitness I see no need to flog him in what will be a dogfight of a match. He's a good sub option and Conn, Oguz and Daly are more than good enough to cover MF. Conn needs to be given freer reign by the management. Twice the last day he made a bursting run through the centre of defence and was entitled to have a shot from 30 yards, he threw the ball out wide both times to a player in a worse position and the initiative was lost.

Contrary to opinion I'd start J Clarke but not the other 2. He's a fit young lad, Sigerson is not that high intensity as IC football and I don't see why he can't do 40-50mins of the Derry game. He was too good the last day to overlook. No defender matched anywhere near his performance level (as regards defending).

As for up front, I'd start Jordan and Canavan so long as he's fit. The idea that McGarrity is some all-star, fix all player to whom we can just launch shitty passes and he'll clean up is laughable. Start 4 half-forwards and only play 2 inside, freeing up space for those to play. Playing our forwards in a slow crowded attack is our biggest weakness, we need to focus much more on fast counters and creating space inside for our forwards. Other teams can do it and so should we.

I've never once heard anyone say that about McGarrity. There's a reason his name is put about. He's 6ft2 and a completely different profile of inside forward than we have. If you want to continue persisting with two little guys in there who struggle to win their own ball then by all means sneer at the option of playing McGarrity inside.

We gave badly lacked a physical presence in the forward line for years. Donnelly isn't cutting it there.

There's alot more wrong with our attack than just someone under 6ft playing at 14.

[NotedObserver]

Morgan

Michael Rafferty
Aidan clarke
Cormac Quinn

Ben Cullen
Rory Brennan
Michael Mckernan

Conn
Brian Kennedy

Joe Oguz
Mcelholm
Mattie Donnelly

Ethan Jordan
Lorcan Mcgarrity
Michael Conroy

Hard to know who's fit but going off last week possibly something like this?

Leaving off the sigerson players

[Hand of God]

Whether you like it or not Brennan kept Burns out of the team last year and I don't see how you could overlook him this week given how wide open our defence was last week. There is a strong argument for Brennan at 3 and Burns at 6.

Out the field I'd rest Kennedy, if he's just coming back to fitness I see no need to flog him in what will be a dogfight of a match. He's a good sub option and Conn, Oguz and Daly are more than good enough to cover MF. Conn needs to be given freer reign by the management. Twice the last day he made a bursting run through the centre of defence and was entitled to have a shot from 30 yards, he threw the ball out wide both times to a player in a worse position and the initiative was lost.

Contrary to opinion I'd start J Clarke but not the other 2. He's a fit young lad, Sigerson is not that high intensity as IC football and I don't see why he can't do 40-50mins of the Derry game. He was too good the last day to overlook. No defender matched anywhere near his performance level (as regards defending).

As for up front, I'd start Jordan and Canavan so long as he's fit. The idea that McGarrity is some all-star, fix all player to whom we can just launch shitty passes and he'll clean up is laughable. Start 4 half-forwards and only play 2 inside, freeing up space for those to play. Playing our forwards in a slow crowded attack is our biggest weakness, we need to focus much more on fast counters and creating space inside for our forwards. Other teams can do it and so should we.

I've never once heard anyone say that about McGarrity. There's a reason his name is put about. He's 6ft2 and a completely different profile of inside forward than we have. If you want to continue persisting with two little guys in there who struggle to win their own ball then by all means sneer at the option of playing McGarrity inside.

We gave badly lacked a physical presence in the forward line for years. Donnelly isn't cutting it there.

There's alot more wrong with our attack than just someone under 6ft playing at 14.

It's a big part of the problem. Hoe many other serious counties play with two players 5ft10 or under in their inside forward line? None is the answer.

Derry have McGuigan
Cavan have Lunch
Armagh have Murnin or Oisin O'Neill
Donegal have Murphy
Monaghan have McCarron or Woods
Galway have Finneran, Walsh or Comer
Mayo have O'Shea or Conroy
Meath have a host of them
Kerry have Geaney and Clifford

Who have Tyrone?

[ONeill]

Dinky and big McGleenan Senior.

[O’neill Army]

Whether you like it or not Brennan kept Burns out of the team last year and I don't see how you could overlook him this week given how wide open our defence was last week. There is a strong argument for Brennan at 3 and Burns at 6.

Out the field I'd rest Kennedy, if he's just coming back to fitness I see no need to flog him in what will be a dogfight of a match. He's a good sub option and Conn, Oguz and Daly are more than good enough to cover MF. Conn needs to be given freer reign by the management. Twice the last day he made a bursting run through the centre of defence and was entitled to have a shot from 30 yards, he threw the ball out wide both times to a player in a worse position and the initiative was lost.

Contrary to opinion I'd start J Clarke but not the other 2. He's a fit young lad, Sigerson is not that high intensity as IC football and I don't see why he can't do 40-50mins of the Derry game. He was too good the last day to overlook. No defender matched anywhere near his performance level (as regards defending).

As for up front, I'd start Jordan and Canavan so long as he's fit. The idea that McGarrity is some all-star, fix all player to whom we can just launch shitty passes and he'll clean up is laughable. Start 4 half-forwards and only play 2 inside, freeing up space for those to play. Playing our forwards in a slow crowded attack is our biggest weakness, we need to focus much more on fast counters and creating space inside for our forwards. Other teams can do it and so should we.

I've never once heard anyone say that about McGarrity. There's a reason his name is put about. He's 6ft2 and a completely different profile of inside forward than we have. If you want to continue persisting with two little guys in there who struggle to win their own ball then by all means sneer at the option of playing McGarrity inside.

We gave badly lacked a physical presence in the forward line for years. Donnelly isn't cutting it there.

There's alot more wrong with our attack than just someone under 6ft playing at 14.

It's a big part of the problem. Hoe many other serious counties play with two players 5ft10 or under in their inside forward line? None is the answer.

Derry have McGuigan
Cavan have Lunch
Armagh have Murnin or Oisin O'Neill
Donegal have Murphy
Monaghan have McCarron or Woods
Galway have Finneran, Walsh or Comer
Mayo have O'Shea or Conroy
Meath have a host of them
Kerry have Geaney and Clifford

Who have Tyrone?

serious counties like Derry, Cavan, Monaghan, Armagh, Mayo, Galway and Meath who combined have won less all Irelands than Tyrone since 2003 😂

What if I told you that the greatest Gaelic footballer of all time was a Tyrone man who was under 5ft 10.

[Hand of God]

Whether you like it or not Brennan kept Burns out of the team last year and I don't see how you could overlook him this week given how wide open our defence was last week. There is a strong argument for Brennan at 3 and Burns at 6.

Out the field I'd rest Kennedy, if he's just coming back to fitness I see no need to flog him in what will be a dogfight of a match. He's a good sub option and Conn, Oguz and Daly are more than good enough to cover MF. Conn needs to be given freer reign by the management. Twice the last day he made a bursting run through the centre of defence and was entitled to have a shot from 30 yards, he threw the ball out wide both times to a player in a worse position and the initiative was lost.

Contrary to opinion I'd start J Clarke but not the other 2. He's a fit young lad, Sigerson is not that high intensity as IC football and I don't see why he can't do 40-50mins of the Derry game. He was too good the last day to overlook. No defender matched anywhere near his performance level (as regards defending).

As for up front, I'd start Jordan and Canavan so long as he's fit. The idea that McGarrity is some all-star, fix all player to whom we can just launch shitty passes and he'll clean up is laughable. Start 4 half-forwards and only play 2 inside, freeing up space for those to play. Playing our forwards in a slow crowded attack is our biggest weakness, we need to focus much more on fast counters and creating space inside for our forwards. Other teams can do it and so should we.

I've never once heard anyone say that about McGarrity. There's a reason his name is put about. He's 6ft2 and a completely different profile of inside forward than we have. If you want to continue persisting with two little guys in there who struggle to win their own ball then by all means sneer at the option of playing McGarrity inside.

We gave badly lacked a physical presence in the forward line for years. Donnelly isn't cutting it there.

There's alot more wrong with our attack than just someone under 6ft playing at 14.

It's a big part of the problem. Hoe many other serious counties play with two players 5ft10 or under in their inside forward line? None is the answer.

Derry have McGuigan
Cavan have Lunch
Armagh have Murnin or Oisin O'Neill
Donegal have Murphy
Monaghan have McCarron or Woods
Galway have Finneran, Walsh or Comer
Mayo have O'Shea or Conroy
Meath have a host of them
Kerry have Geaney and Clifford

Who have Tyrone?

serious counties like Derry, Cavan, Monaghan, Armagh, Mayo, Galway and Meath who combined have won less all Irelands than Tyrone since 2003 😂

What if I told you that the greatest Gaelic footballer of all time was a Tyrone man who was under 5ft 10.

I said our best player is currently his son who is 5 ft 9. The game has changed.

We've struggled for years at 14 as we have consistently produced small nippy forwards. In 2021 we started Mattie Donnelly at full forward, it wasn't his natural position and I don't think he excelled there but we needed a physical presence in that forward line. McShane a 6 ft 2 convert to full forward came off the bench in both semi and final to score goals and was very effective in allowing us to mix it up.

McShane won an All Star in 2019 when we made it to a semi final for his performances at FF and I think may have finished top scorer in Championship. The year before that we were using Richie Donnelly at full forward.

Before his retirement Sean Cavanagh at full forward. Another natural midfielder or half forward and he spent the final 4/5 years at full forward for us. He also was footballer of the year at full forward for us in 2008 as we won our 3rd AI.

I've noted that no other team in the country with AI aspirations this year is operating with an inside forward line compromised of forwards under 5ft10. What you have said doesn't address, you just made a comment about football 20 years ago where players could have a fag in the dressing room at the half time break. The game has changed extensively since.

Donnelly is not a full forward, McGarrity is the only real option at 14 we seem to have in the squad who is capable of playing that target man role, winning his own ball and grabbing a few scores. That doesn't mean he's the Messiah or anything but he gives us something we both need and an something out current inside forward options don't have.

We will struggle it we keep playing a full forward line of little guys, no matter how good they are. Size, power and athleticism are huge across modern sport today.

[Tyrone Dreamer]

I'd go with something like this:

N Morgan
A Clark (probably have to pick up McGuigan)
R Brennan
J Clarke
R Cassidy
M Donnelly (temporary solution to try and hold middle)
M McKernan
C Kilpatrick
B Kennedy
C O'Neill
J Oguz
C Daly
M Conroy
E McElholm
E Jordan

Hold Canavan back as not up to fitness yet and McElholm might not have 70 minutes in it.

[Goals_Will_Come]

I'd go with something like this:

N Morgan
A Clark (probably have to pick up McGuigan)
R Brennan
J Clarke
R Cassidy
M Donnelly (temporary solution to try and hold middle)
M McKernan
C Kilpatrick
B Kennedy
C O'Neill
J Oguz
C Daly
M Conroy
E McElholm
E Jordan

Hold Canavan back as not up to fitness yet and McElholm might not have 70 minutes in it.

Who do you consider the best option to play 6 and hold the middle this year?