The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Puckoon]

Not what I asked though, is it? You aren't answering my questions now and I think it is fair to say I have played fair here and answered yours directly so a little courtesy might go a long way.

I could apply your logic when someone doesn't respond to your specific questions and you get dog with a bone syndrome and state that your evasion suggests you either

Don't believe any of the victims and support Donald Trump
Believe the victims, but don't care and support Donald Trump
Actively support sexual violence against women, particularly from Donald Trump

Which is it?

[Blowitupref]

I think perhaps it's your assertion that things are equally as bad, or as stupid, or as evil that is the rock your arguments wash up on (for me at least).

There are no arguments that the democratic leadership has been and is in a shambles. As Eamonn, and others have rightly pointed out however, things are not the same. Perhaps that's just where it becomes opinion and we move on, but there are plenty of facts to support the overall narrative. The cult of Trump is strong and rooted in pettiness, vengefulness and sheer hatred. His plaques yesterday and his address to the nation show him for what he is.

So on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being absolutely fvcking outrageous and disgraceful, I assume you would give Trumps Immigration policies a 10

So now put yourself in my shoes as a tax paying resident of Massachusetts and assign a similar score to how outraged you would be at this person being released into the community instead of being handed over to ICE

"On April 22, 2021, the Essex County Superior Court arraigned Avila for six counts of indecent assault and battery on a child under 14, eight counts of rape of a child with force and eight counts of aggravated statutory rape of a child"

What's your score?

I believe I've answered you before on my stance on criminals not being deported but clearly if you need a numerical score - that is a 10 on your scale.

The point I am making about Trump being rooted in hatred however is not his policy on any one given topic. It's his unwashable filth that he is leaving behind in every single thing he does and every single time he speaks or every single time he picks up his tablet on the gold shitter to post some unhinged rant. Every single time his racism, misogyny, and hatred spills forth.

Let's touch on the fact that he's a 34 count convicted felon, and considering your fascination with sex crimes, perhaps the fact that he's had 28 accusations of sexual misconduct INCLUDING RAPE against his name. Just for the record and so it is clear - that's a line in the sand when it comes for casting my vote. How can I worry about the procedures for violent offenders when the first fella is up to his neck in it.

Would you vote someone onto one of these many school boards you talk about if they had an accusation of sexual violence against them? What made Trump's charges something you were prepared to overlook when you cast your ballot.

They are not the same and that's before we even discuss Epstein, and if he really got shot in the earhole or not.

If you truly cared about violence against women, you could not vote for Donald Trump. The single worst thing that I detest about Bill Clinton is what he put a young 24 year old girl through and how that shaped the rest of her life, and I'm sure she wasn't the only one. Unforgivable.

More women voted for Trump in 2024 than voted for him in 2020

What does that tell you about the general perception of the allegations against Trump?

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/

Secondly....how mind blowing is that statistic given that Trump was running against a woman?

47 % of white women voted for Trump

He was running against a woman who had just 107 days to campaign and after getting well beaten in the public debate Trump refused or was advised to have no more public debates with her.

Harris in such a short campaign time still got 75 million people to vote for her which was more than what voted for Trump in 2020 and 2016.

[Look-Up!]

You can sort of understand the Trump vote even though for me he should have been history after the capitol incident. But the media spotlight and damp squib verdicts made him box office again, and coming into very uncertain times people just weren't sold on Harris.

But Trump 2.0 is something else. Losing to sleepy Joe back in 2020 seems to have seriously mentally damaged him. He is clearly deranged and unfit for the office he holds. Yes he got 77 million votes but Harris got 75 million. You'd wonder if they were to vote again tomorrow what the numbers would be.

In any case they, and the world are stuck with him for another 3 years. Good job he's not 10 years younger. I'm sure he looks on at Zelensky staying on indefinitely as a war time president with a tinge of envy. Maybe even sees an angle. You'd put nothing past him. He's one seriously twisted c**t.

[Wildweasel74]

So they voted for a man cheated on 2 wifes, shagged a porn star, 15+ sexual harassment cases. Use of vuglar terms related to women, recently insulted a no of lady reporters. And alot of american white women would vote for that. Says alot about their mentality to their own men.

[whitey]

Not what I asked though, is it? You aren't answering my questions now and I think it is fair to say I have played fair here and answered yours directly so a little courtesy might go a long way.

I could apply your logic when someone doesn't respond to your specific questions and you get dog with a bone syndrome and state that your evasion suggests you either

Don't believe any of the victims and support Donald Trump
Believe the victims, but don't care and support Donald Trump
Actively support sexual violence against women, particularly from Donald Trump

Which is it?

I believe that some of the lesser allegations are probably true but the more serious allegations are false

What he did, imho, is no different to what Bill Clinton did therefore would not cost him my vote

I believe that to be a widely held belief and plays out in the numbers

FFS here in Massachusetts we were represented by a Democratic Senator (for 30 years) who left a woman to drown and didn't report the accident until the following day.

[Captain Obvious]

I believe that some of the lesser allegations are probably true but the more serious allegations are false

What he did, imho, is no different to what Bill Clinton did therefore would not cost him my vote

[DaleCooper]

They tried to kill him, tried to jail him. Of course hes a different animal but the same Zion Don underneath, see the recent Miriam Adelson appearance.

Jews got a fright with Oct 7 because the hateful rhetoric they had a key role perpetuating and normalising in mass culture blew up in their faces.

You could see the gears turning in head of Bill Ackman and a few others, very interesting to watch and soon after he took the head of Harvard out.

Universities in the US will be purged of antizionists in coming years. Its gonna get very ugly.

[seafoid]

They tried to kill him, tried to jail him. Of course hes a different animal but the same Zion Don underneath, see the recent Miriam Adelson appearance.

Jews got a fright with Oct 7 because the hateful rhetoric they had a key role perpetuating and normalising in mass culture blew up in their faces.

You could see the gears turning in head of Bill Ackman and a few others, very interesting to watch and soon after he took the head of Harvard out.

Universities in the US will be purged of antizionists in coming years. Its gonna get very ugly.

Israel is losing support in the US

https://www.ft.com/content/28c3b5c8-ef1a-4a12-9aa2-7589aaf6207c

"Trump is also famously attuned to public opinion. Support for Israel has long been a litmus test in both main parties in the US. That is changing. Younger American Jews are no longer so steadfast in their backing. And it cannot have been lost on the president that several polls show pro-Israel sentiment is also declining rapidly among young conservatives. Views among opinion leaders on the right are also shifting."

[DaleCooper]

Oh yes and its great to see. The high tide of Pax Judaica may have come and gone, history will decide of course.

[Armagh18]

The Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)

I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.

I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.

The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.

In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".

Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.

But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.

And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.

So after 4 years of Joe and Kamala 77000000 people felt the Republicans would do a better job

Including swing voters who voted for Obama twice and Biden once

So... you're not disputing that the GOP is a far right Christian nationalist personality cult then?

And yeah, the Dems fucked it up, specifically on immigration and allowing Biden to press on with his deluded attempt to get a second term.

They can recover from that.

Where does the GOP go from here? Will the charlatans, the fascists, the bigots and the conspiracy theorists be thrown to the wolves? Or is the likes of Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens the future as it currently appears?

I think that's nonsense

Based on my experience, people are voting against the Democrats and by default are voting for the Republican.

Union guy I've mentioned before. Up at 430 AM, out the door at 5.....starting work in Boston at 6:30 for a utilities company. Down in a manhole up to his oxters in $hite in all types of weather.

Try Explaining to him why he's paying for illegals or for student loan forgiveness for college graduates with useless majors

Yeah his tax money would be far better spent on tax breaks for Musk and his buddies and for Trump to go go and rape children on an island

I don't think Musk or his buddies pay Massachusetts State income taxes

Oh...the other idea the Democrats in Massachusetts have come up with is to charge drivers a tax per mile driven.

https://www.governing.com/transportation/massachusetts-considers-bill-to-limit-vehicle-miles-driven-statewide

The Demicratic politician behind it lives in a $2M house and represents probably the 3 wealthiest town in Massachusetts-8 miles from Downtown Boston

On the other hand, He has a 140 per day round trip commute

(Oh...one other thing. Trump is supposedly abolishing tax on overtime....which this guy does a lot of.....and it's mandatory overtime because he works for the power company and can't just pack up at 300 PM and go home)

Your hero Trump rapes kids then invades countries to take the spotlight off it. Thats really all there is to say.

[whitey]

I actually hate Trump and thinks he's a complete embarrassment but given how bad the alternative was I (and 69,999,999 others) held my nose and voted for him

[Milltown Row2]

I actually hate Trump and thinks he's a complete embarrassment but given how bad the alternative was I (and 69,999,999 others) held my nose and voted for him

Nearly sure you said you didn't vote..

Anyways god loves a pussy grabbing supporter

[whitey]

I actually hate Trump and thinks he's a complete embarrassment but given how bad the alternative was I (and 69,999,999 others) held my nose and voted for him

Nearly sure you said you didn't vote..

Anyways god loves a pussy grabbing supporter

I didn't vote for him in 2016

[Wildweasel74]

There no worse alternative to the current situation, you dumb fucks realise the world laughing at you, that you pick such a low life individual, whos got the immaturity of a spoilt primary school child, who parents just run rough shot. And a dangerous spiteful f**ker into the bargain. Says what a bitter clown you are Whitey.

[whitey]

There no worse alternative to the current situation, you dumb fucks realise the world laughing at you, that you pick such a low life individual, whos got the immaturity of a spoilt primary school child, who parents just run rough shot. And a dangerous spiteful f**ker into the bargain. Says what a bitter clown you are Whitey.

Both choices were going to destroy the country in different ways

I just picked the candidate who was better for me and my family

(And you do understand that due to the electoral college system my vote essentially doesn't matter)