The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

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Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)




I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.

I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.

The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.

In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".

Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.

But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.

And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.

So after 4 years of Joe and Kamala 77000000 people felt the Republicans would do a better job

Including swing voters who voted for Obama twice and Biden once

So... you're not disputing that the GOP is a far right Christian nationalist personality cult then?


And yeah, the Dems fucked it up, specifically on immigration and allowing Biden to press on with his deluded attempt to get a second term.

They can recover from that.

Where does the GOP go from here? Will the charlatans, the fascists, the bigots and the conspiracy theorists be thrown to the wolves? Or is the likes of Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens the future as it currently appears?

I think that's nonsense

Based on my experience, people are voting against the Democrats and by default are voting for the Republican.

Union guy I've mentioned before. Up at 430 AM, out the door at 5.....starting work in Boston at 6:30 for a utilities company. Down in a manhole up to his oxters in $hite in all types of weather.

Try Explaining to him why he's paying for illegals or for student loan forgiveness for college graduates with useless majors





Oh boo hoo. We all work hard and are up early and pay taxes for things we don't agree with. Is your union pal upset at Trump Jr's drone company getting a massive government contract? Or the literal billions Ivanka's husband is pulling in as Arab governments throw money his way to buy access and influence with Trump? Trump getting a free jet from the Qataris? Billionaires footing the bill for the White House ballroom in return for...? I'll bet he was upset over Hunter Biden.

As for defaulting to the GOP...

1. There are GOP politicians who are not corrupt, bigoted fascists like Trump. The defaulters could have voted for any of them.

2. The GOP MAGA base DOES want Trump. They are racist and fascist themselves and love his racism and fascism. MAGA entails about a third of the country. If the defaulters decide that student loan forgiveness or emergency care for illegals is a worse sin then Trump's corrosive effect on the US and the world, then either they're not paying attention or their moral compass needs some serious realignment.

LOL

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen

This is exactly what the elite of the Democratic Party think of the average working person

Shut your fvcking mouth and listen to us because we know better than you 

That's really going to win him back

If you were down in a manhole for an 12 hour overnight shift in the middle of a Boston winter you might have a different view

And that post right there, boys and girls that is exactly why 77,000,000 people voted for Trump

Over and out

Orior

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Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)




I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.

I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.

The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.

In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".

Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.

But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.

And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.

So after 4 years of Joe and Kamala 77000000 people felt the Republicans would do a better job

Including swing voters who voted for Obama twice and Biden once

So... you're not disputing that the GOP is a far right Christian nationalist personality cult then?


And yeah, the Dems fucked it up, specifically on immigration and allowing Biden to press on with his deluded attempt to get a second term.

They can recover from that.

Where does the GOP go from here? Will the charlatans, the fascists, the bigots and the conspiracy theorists be thrown to the wolves? Or is the likes of Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens the future as it currently appears?

I think that's nonsense

Based on my experience, people are voting against the Democrats and by default are voting for the Republican.

Union guy I've mentioned before. Up at 430 AM, out the door at 5.....starting work in Boston at 6:30 for a utilities company. Down in a manhole up to his oxters in $hite in all types of weather.

Try Explaining to him why he's paying for illegals or for student loan forgiveness for college graduates with useless majors





Oh boo hoo. We all work hard and are up early and pay taxes for things we don't agree with. Is your union pal upset at Trump Jr's drone company getting a massive government contract? Or the literal billions Ivanka's husband is pulling in as Arab governments throw money his way to buy access and influence with Trump? Trump getting a free jet from the Qataris? Billionaires footing the bill for the White House ballroom in return for...? I'll bet he was upset over Hunter Biden.

As for defaulting to the GOP...

1. There are GOP politicians who are not corrupt, bigoted fascists like Trump. The defaulters could have voted for any of them.

2. The GOP MAGA base DOES want Trump. They are racist and fascist themselves and love his racism and fascism. MAGA entails about a third of the country. If the defaulters decide that student loan forgiveness or emergency care for illegals is a worse sin then Trump's corrosive effect on the US and the world, then either they're not paying attention or their moral compass needs some serious realignment.

LOL

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen

This is exactly what the elite of the Democratic Party think of the average working person

Shut your fvcking mouth and listen to us because we know better than you 

That's really going to win him back

If you were down in a manhole for an 12 hour overnight shift in the middle of a Boston winter you might have a different view

And that post right there, boys and girls that is exactly why 77,000,000 people voted for Trump

Over and out


J70, you're wasting your time debating with Whitey.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

whitey

Quote from: Orior on Today at 02:44:42 PM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 02:30:42 PM
Quote from: J70 on Today at 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 11:30:10 AM
Quote from: J70 on Today at 02:05:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)




I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.

I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.

The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.

In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".

Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.

But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.

And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.

So after 4 years of Joe and Kamala 77000000 people felt the Republicans would do a better job

Including swing voters who voted for Obama twice and Biden once

So... you're not disputing that the GOP is a far right Christian nationalist personality cult then?


And yeah, the Dems fucked it up, specifically on immigration and allowing Biden to press on with his deluded attempt to get a second term.

They can recover from that.

Where does the GOP go from here? Will the charlatans, the fascists, the bigots and the conspiracy theorists be thrown to the wolves? Or is the likes of Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens the future as it currently appears?

I think that's nonsense

Based on my experience, people are voting against the Democrats and by default are voting for the Republican.

Union guy I've mentioned before. Up at 430 AM, out the door at 5.....starting work in Boston at 6:30 for a utilities company. Down in a manhole up to his oxters in $hite in all types of weather.

Try Explaining to him why he's paying for illegals or for student loan forgiveness for college graduates with useless majors





Oh boo hoo. We all work hard and are up early and pay taxes for things we don't agree with. Is your union pal upset at Trump Jr's drone company getting a massive government contract? Or the literal billions Ivanka's husband is pulling in as Arab governments throw money his way to buy access and influence with Trump? Trump getting a free jet from the Qataris? Billionaires footing the bill for the White House ballroom in return for...? I'll bet he was upset over Hunter Biden.

As for defaulting to the GOP...

1. There are GOP politicians who are not corrupt, bigoted fascists like Trump. The defaulters could have voted for any of them.

2. The GOP MAGA base DOES want Trump. They are racist and fascist themselves and love his racism and fascism. MAGA entails about a third of the country. If the defaulters decide that student loan forgiveness or emergency care for illegals is a worse sin then Trump's corrosive effect on the US and the world, then either they're not paying attention or their moral compass needs some serious realignment.

LOL

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen

This is exactly what the elite of the Democratic Party think of the average working person

Shut your fvcking mouth and listen to us because we know better than you 

That's really going to win him back

If you were down in a manhole for an 12 hour overnight shift in the middle of a Boston winter you might have a different view

And that post right there, boys and girls that is exactly why 77,000,000 people voted for Trump

Over and out


J70, you're wasting your time debating with Whitey.

What's there to debate

The Democratic clowns at the state house passed a bill that "guaranteed" shelter

Guess what happened-thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of illegals poured into the state at a cost of Billions to the taxpayer

J70 can't bring himself to call that out as wrong and acknowledge that people are rightly furious

No-instead my neighbor is a stupid cvnt

Rossfan

77,000,000 of the most stupid people on Earth.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on Today at 02:50:27 PM77,000,000 of the most stupid people on Earth.
They thought Trump and the  GOP  would look after them.

Rossfan

The ignorant fools.
They  were already fooled once by the piece of sh1t but to vote for it again.....
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

Hes amazing, the best, nothing ever has done better, number one in his field, singlehandedly brought about world peace, found the cure for covid (shine this light..)

I hope they get another term outta him, he and the 77 million deserve him
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

johnnycool

Quote from: Rossfan on Today at 03:45:48 PMThe ignorant fools.
They  were already fooled once by the piece of sh1t but to vote for it again.....

And the Latinos who voted for him really take me to the cleaners.

What did they think would happen?


whitey

#27714
https://youtu.be/GE3bh59ua4I?si=eyz4Q2sUWyYQYxbI



Silence MAGA peasants

Your superiors are speaking

In particular starting at 2:18....men who'd voted for for Obama and Biden but who didn't vote for Harris

But J70s message to these people is you're a stupid cvnt, shut your fvckin mouth and get with the program

Milltown Row2

Trump space Center.. ffs build something new during your term and call it after yourself.. or if you have left a decent legacy they might name something after you because you made a difference
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Puckoon

Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 11:40:57 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 18, 2025, 11:34:29 PMI think perhaps it's your assertion that things are equally as bad, or as stupid, or as evil that is the rock your arguments wash up on (for me at least).

There are no arguments that the democratic leadership has been and is in a shambles. As Eamonn, and others have rightly pointed out however, things are not the same. Perhaps that's just where it becomes opinion and we move on, but there are plenty of facts to support the overall narrative. The cult of Trump is strong and rooted in pettiness, vengefulness and sheer hatred. His plaques yesterday and his address to the nation show him for what he is.



So on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being absolutely fvcking outrageous and disgraceful, I assume you would give Trumps Immigration policies a 10

So now put yourself in my shoes as a tax paying resident of Massachusetts and assign a similar score to how outraged you would be at this person being released into the community instead of being handed over to ICE

"On April 22, 2021, the Essex County Superior Court arraigned Avila for six counts of indecent assault and battery on a child under 14, eight counts of rape of a child with force and eight counts of aggravated statutory rape of a child"

What's your score?

I believe I've answered you before on my stance on criminals not being deported but clearly if you need a numerical score - that is a 10 on your scale.

The point I am making about Trump being rooted in hatred however is not his policy on any one given topic. It's his unwashable filth that he is leaving behind in every single thing he does and every single time he speaks or every single time he picks up his tablet on the gold shitter to post some unhinged rant. Every single time his racism, misogyny, and hatred spills forth.

Let's touch on the fact that he's a 34 count convicted felon, and considering your fascination with sex crimes, perhaps the fact that he's had 28 accusations of sexual misconduct INCLUDING RAPE against his name. Just for the record and so it is clear - that's a line in the sand when it comes for casting my vote. How can I worry about the procedures for violent offenders when the first fella is up to his neck in it.

Would you vote someone onto one of these many school boards you talk about if they had an accusation of sexual violence against them? What made Trump's charges something you were prepared to overlook when you cast your ballot.

They are not the same and that's before we even discuss Epstein, and if he really got shot in the earhole or not.

If you truly cared about violence against women, you could not vote for Donald Trump. The single worst thing that I detest about Bill Clinton is what he put a young 24 year old girl through and how that shaped the rest of her life, and I'm sure she wasn't the only one. Unforgivable.


Puckoon

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 03:52:56 PMHes amazing, the best, nothing ever has done better, number one in his field, singlehandedly brought about world peace, found the cure for covid (shine this light..)

I hope they get another term outta him, he and the 77 million deserve him

There's no need to be a **** to the rest of us, thanks all the same

whitey

Quote from: Puckoon on Today at 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 11:40:57 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 18, 2025, 11:34:29 PMI think perhaps it's your assertion that things are equally as bad, or as stupid, or as evil that is the rock your arguments wash up on (for me at least).

There are no arguments that the democratic leadership has been and is in a shambles. As Eamonn, and others have rightly pointed out however, things are not the same. Perhaps that's just where it becomes opinion and we move on, but there are plenty of facts to support the overall narrative. The cult of Trump is strong and rooted in pettiness, vengefulness and sheer hatred. His plaques yesterday and his address to the nation show him for what he is.



So on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being absolutely fvcking outrageous and disgraceful, I assume you would give Trumps Immigration policies a 10

So now put yourself in my shoes as a tax paying resident of Massachusetts and assign a similar score to how outraged you would be at this person being released into the community instead of being handed over to ICE

"On April 22, 2021, the Essex County Superior Court arraigned Avila for six counts of indecent assault and battery on a child under 14, eight counts of rape of a child with force and eight counts of aggravated statutory rape of a child"

What's your score?

I believe I've answered you before on my stance on criminals not being deported but clearly if you need a numerical score - that is a 10 on your scale.

The point I am making about Trump being rooted in hatred however is not his policy on any one given topic. It's his unwashable filth that he is leaving behind in every single thing he does and every single time he speaks or every single time he picks up his tablet on the gold shitter to post some unhinged rant. Every single time his racism, misogyny, and hatred spills forth.

Let's touch on the fact that he's a 34 count convicted felon, and considering your fascination with sex crimes, perhaps the fact that he's had 28 accusations of sexual misconduct INCLUDING RAPE against his name. Just for the record and so it is clear - that's a line in the sand when it comes for casting my vote. How can I worry about the procedures for violent offenders when the first fella is up to his neck in it.

Would you vote someone onto one of these many school boards you talk about if they had an accusation of sexual violence against them? What made Trump's charges something you were prepared to overlook when you cast your ballot.

They are not the same and that's before we even discuss Epstein, and if he really got shot in the earhole or not.

If you truly cared about violence against women, you could not vote for Donald Trump. The single worst thing that I detest about Bill Clinton is what he put a young 24 year old girl through and how that shaped the rest of her life, and I'm sure she wasn't the only one. Unforgivable.



More women voted for Trump in 2024 than voted for him in 2020

What does that tell you about the general perception of the allegations against Trump?

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/

Secondly....how mind blowing is that statistic given that Trump was running against a woman?

47 % of white women voted for Trump

Milltown Row2

It tells me what I already know

Women are f**king bonkers

Thanks America for reinforcing that
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.