All Ireland Hurling Final 2025, its on next weekend you know

[johnnycool]

a few rumours coming out that all was not well in the Cork changing room at half time and after the game in the Burlington, management travelled home together and the team on the train hence the cancelled homecoming...

allegedly management wanted to make a few substitutions at half time and players refused to come off and after the game things were said that can't be unsaid...

Could all be shíte.

[DaleCooper]

Sounds likely for a team up by 6 at half time...

[Saffrongael]

I have seen the WhatsApp "rumour" & it sounds like bollocks to me

[marty34]

We'll know in next few months if management 'leave' etc.

[NAG1]

It sounds like rubbish to me, why would there have been any aggro in a changing room 6 points up at half time in an AI.

[Gael-in-exile]

It sounds like rubbish to me, why would there have been any aggro in a changing room 6 points up at half time in an AI.

I'm dubious over the legitimacy of it all but the points made are certainly not overly unrealistic.
The wanted to replace Downey at 3 as he was on a yellow card.
Players disputed that.

I think it's easy to start stories or for the truth to gather moss and evolve into complete nonsense. But cancelling homecoming has probably added to the ability for these stories to be considered legitimate.

[Milltown Row2]

Simples, play five minutes and put the board up, he wasn't not going to come off..

The biggest issue no intensity even in the first half bar a brace of scores also  not putting away the easy frees, missing that first free in second half was also poor.

Some serious questions on the team that went out there in the second half, this has no bearing on how Tipp performed

[DaleCooper]

Ive never heard of a player mutiny over a substitution ever in my life, let alone in a top level mgmt team situation.

Sounds like excuses / scapegoating.

 Players folded mentally, not a whole lot manager can do.

[gallsman]

It sounds like rubbish to me, why would there have been any aggro in a changing room 6 points up at half time in an AI.

Because they were playing absolutely dreadfully.

[NAG1]

It sounds like rubbish to me, why would there have been any aggro in a changing room 6 points up at half time in an AI.

Because they were playing absolutely dreadfully.

Playing rubbish and 6 points up, I'm not sure the mindset goes to lets have fall out about a sub.

It's more, we've played rubbish and are still 6 up, second half lets correct and go again.

[Milltown Row2]

If and it's a serious big if, this is actually what happened, the minute the team tells the manager they are against his decision then it's done for me.

It's not a democracy, it's non debatable, the manager lives and died by his decision and the fall out if it's fails is on him

The players whether they like it or not have bought into the management throughout the year and had plenty time to leave the panel, halftime in a final is not the place to create the so called going ons or scenes described

If senior players have an opinion discuss it, but on a one to one, ok to voice an opinion

Taking the fullback off wasn't the winning or losing of the game, he was walking a tightrope of his own making

Cork misfired all day and Tipp didn't, they literally turned the screw when on top

I wouldn't be surprised there was a little bitta aggro at halftime, that can be positive, but it suits a narrative now that it was a flashpoint that ultimately was the reason they lost..

Missing basics scores, playing Hail Mary balls into space and playing as individuals the whole game was the only reason they lost

[johnnycool]

If and it's a serious big if, this is actually what happened, the minute the team tells the manager they are against his decision then it's done for me.

It's not a democracy, it's non debatable, the manager lives and died by his decision and the fall out if it's fails is on him

The players whether they like it or not have bought into the management throughout the year and had plenty time to leave the panel, halftime in a final is not the place to create the so called going ons or scenes described

If senior players have an opinion discuss it, but on a one to one, ok to voice an opinion

Taking the fullback off wasn't the winning or losing of the game, he was walking a tightrope of his own making

Cork misfired all day and Tipp didn't, they literally turned the screw when on top

I wouldn't be surprised there was a little bitta aggro at halftime, that can be positive, but it suits a narrative now that it was a flashpoint that ultimately was the reason they lost..

Missing basics scores, playing Hail Mary balls into space and playing as individuals the whole game was the only reason they lost

Player power is a thing in Cork and has been since they decided to deride a hurling legend in Cork in Gerald McCarthy to get "their" man into a management position.

Cork players need to take a good hard look at themselves, not one of them has an AI medal to their name and if you're not listening to the management, going out and playing as individuals no matter how good you are you should be gone from the team.

Do you think Brian Cody would accept that? Just ask former PoTY, Cha Fitzpatrick.

[gallsman]

YPOTY in fairness, but yes.

Wasn't it John Tennyson who basically derailed his career by, allegedly, telling Cody there was more to life than hurling?

[johnnycool]

YPOTY in fairness, but yes.

Wasn't it John Tennyson who basically derailed his career by, allegedly, telling Cody there was more to life than hurling?

There's a few lads who didn't meet his hardline ways and were thrown by the wayside, but I thought this article from Richie Hogan gives a real insight into how Cody ruled.

Richie Hogan: Brian Cody told me to 'shut the f**k up and sit the f**k down'

And then poor John Mulhall bit the dust for a bit of a singsong

[Saffrongael]

I remember reading something about David Herity and he was giving Cody a bit of gentle ribbing and Cody's wife basically had to hold him back