Ulster Championship 2025

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marty34


marty34

Quote from: Mario on April 06, 2025, 04:10:06 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 06, 2025, 03:40:57 PM
Quote from: downtothecore on April 06, 2025, 03:31:42 PMDonegal have a formidable look about them but Derry have been disappointing. RG had the midas touch with the Derry lads and he gaz not been adequately replaced.

Despite what the media would lead you to believe they were actually a great watch under RG.

Scored some great counter attacking scores
If you aren't a Kerry or Dublin and you don't have an elite manager then you may forget about it. As Cahair said in article  in IN during week it's more important than any underage success.

What's an 'elite manager'?

Mario

Quote from: marty34 on April 06, 2025, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Mario on April 06, 2025, 04:10:06 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 06, 2025, 03:40:57 PM
Quote from: downtothecore on April 06, 2025, 03:31:42 PMDonegal have a formidable look about them but Derry have been disappointing. RG had the midas touch with the Derry lads and he gaz not been adequately replaced.

Despite what the media would lead you to believe they were actually a great watch under RG.

Scored some great counter attacking scores
If you aren't a Kerry or Dublin and you don't have an elite manager then you may forget about it. As Cahair said in article  in IN during week it's more important than any underage success.

What's an 'elite manager'?
McGuinness, McGeeney, Gallagher. A big personality who makes every team he takes better.

Rossfan

Quote from: Armaghtothebone on April 06, 2025, 03:12:10 PMDidn't know the new rules were also allowing players to run 10 steps without a bounce or solo
Where have you been tge last 3
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on April 06, 2025, 03:12:10 PMDidn't know the new rules were also allowing players to run 10 steps without a bounce or solo

Where have you been the last 30 years ;D
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

J70

#79
Routine win for Donegal. Derry looked well up for it early on, but the last ten minutes of the first half Daire O'Baoill put in a tour de force to pull Donegal clear, despite the Derry goal and then the mini-burst after half time.

Don't think Derry scoring the penalty would have made much difference in the long run, but Murphy escaping a red might have, given that it came during those couple of minutes when Derry were winning the Patton kick out and closing the gap. After that, Donegal made hay on the Derry kick out and put the game to bed fairly quickly.


Impressive debut for young Roarty, even getting up for a point. McBrearty was superb, as was O'Baoill, Moore, Conor and Shane O'Donnell and Thompson and Big Hughie. Good shape going forward if we can get McGee and Langan fit. Eoin Ban didn't get a run at all either.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Rossfan on April 06, 2025, 04:30:32 PM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on April 06, 2025, 03:12:10 PMDidn't know the new rules were also allowing players to run 10 steps without a bounce or solo
Where have you been tge last 3
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on April 06, 2025, 03:12:10 PMDidn't know the new rules were also allowing players to run 10 steps without a bounce or solo

Where have you been the last 30 years ;D
True... it's been like that a while 😎
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kXzrjfQgLiw

Nanderson

Quote from: Truthsayer on April 06, 2025, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 06, 2025, 04:30:32 PM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on April 06, 2025, 03:12:10 PMDidn't know the new rules were also allowing players to run 10 steps without a bounce or solo
Where have you been tge last 3
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on April 06, 2025, 03:12:10 PMDidn't know the new rules were also allowing players to run 10 steps without a bounce or solo

Where have you been the last 30 years ;D
True... it's been like that a while 😎
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kXzrjfQgLiw
Still find it mad that 2 bounces and a solo took him to the 14 from the halfway line

Truthsayer

Quote from: Nanderson on April 06, 2025, 04:51:12 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on April 06, 2025, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 06, 2025, 04:30:32 PM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on April 06, 2025, 03:12:10 PMDidn't know the new rules were also allowing players to run 10 steps without a bounce or solo
Where have you been tge last 3
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on April 06, 2025, 03:12:10 PMDidn't know the new rules were also allowing players to run 10 steps without a bounce or solo

Where have you been the last 30 years ;D
True... it's been like that a while 😎
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kXzrjfQgLiw
Still find it mad that 2 bounces and a solo took him to the 14 from the halfway line
The last bit from the bounce to he kicked the goal! I was at the match.. it was so obvious. Cudnt believe the ref let it go.

oakleaflad

Quote from: J70 on April 06, 2025, 04:40:38 PMRoutine win for Donegal. Derry looked well up for it early on, but the last ten minutes of the first half Daire O'Baoill put in a tour de force to pull Donegal clear, despite the Derry goal and then the mini-burst after half time.

Don't think Derry scoring the penalty would have made much difference in the long run, but Murphy escaping a red might have, given that it came during those couple of minutes when Derry were winning the Patton kick out and closing the gap. After that, Donegal made hay on the Derry kick out and put the game to bed fairly quickly.


Impressive debut for young Roarty, even getting up for a point. McBrearty was superb, as was O'Baoill, Moore, Conor and Shane O'Donnell and Thompson and Big Hughie. Good shape going forward if we can get McGee and Langan fit. Eoin Ban didn't get a run at all either.
Think he's a brilliant young player but he really struggled physically with Murray, hence the half time change.
Donegal seem to have built up a really strong panel now as you say. Think you will be even better with Gallen starting. Not sure on starting Murphy.

JoG2

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Quote from: gallsman on March 25, 2025, 10:14:01 AMWith so much underage county and schools success in both Derry and Tyrone the last few years, D2 not a bad spot at all to really blood some fresh faces.

Would expect the pair of them to come back up handily enough.

Unless there are radical improvements in the Likes of Louth, Cork, Meath, Cavan then Tyrone and Derry will be promoted at a canter.

Derry's 1 point in the League made for false reading in my eyes. The Kerry game was farcical and should have been closed out. As should Donegal when leading well with 10 minutes to go. I would imagine Donegal will take them out in Ulster but they can then go and disappear into the background and go about their work quietly in preparation for the group stages where they will hope to come back nearer to full strength.

Tyrone very unfortunate to be relegated on 7 points. Periods of inconsistencies for sure but Tyrone have had worse league campaigns than this and stayed up. The likely Ulster Semi Final match up with Armagh (no disrespect to Cavan/Antrim) should be a good one. Tyrone's forward line looks very dangerous, so many "pocket rocket" style players that are hard to track in these new rules. And the midfield pairing is very strong.

That's not happening 🇮🇩

You think Derry will beat Donegal in the preliminary round?

Yes, have said it since the draw was made.
Bless your optimism.


Well, in my defence, I never thought in a million years Tally wouldnt pick a goalkeeper to start in the championship.

Easttyrone23

Quote from: Truthsayer on April 06, 2025, 03:25:37 PMHarte left that Derry team totally clueless and demorilised; bless him! .. to think two years ago they were All Ireland material.

People talk as if Derry were the best team in the country before Harte took over. They haven't got further than a semi final since 1993. Harte took over and won them their first national title in 16 years.

Which is more plausible? The last 2 managers who have won multiple all Irelands and been successful with several other counties are the reason stopping Derry winning Sam or would it be that Derry just aren't as good as the Derry natives think?

Easttyrone23

Quote from: Mario on April 06, 2025, 04:10:06 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 06, 2025, 03:40:57 PM
Quote from: downtothecore on April 06, 2025, 03:31:42 PMDonegal have a formidable look about them but Derry have been disappointing. RG had the midas touch with the Derry lads and he gaz not been adequately replaced.

Despite what the media would lead you to believe they were actually a great watch under RG.

Scored some great counter attacking scores
If you aren't a Kerry or Dublin and you don't have an elite manager then you may forget about it. As Cahair said in article  in IN during week it's more important than any underage success.

Kerry have won 1 all Ireland in the last 10 years. The only one they won was when coached by paddy tally. Harte and Tally brought Tyrone their first all Ireland and Harte ended up winning 3 with them. If that doesn't qualify them as elite then I'd love to know what would.

Wildweasel74

Look at the way Harte last year and Tally this year have f**ked around with the goalkeeping role. It messed the team up both years. You say Tally elite? The only country team he managed was Down and he took them bck not forward. He was a high thought of as a coach but he been found out in a manager role.

Wildweasel74

There no editor for bad words on here anymore, having to edit it myself lol.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 07, 2025, 09:08:26 AMLook at the way Harte last year and Tally this year have f**ked around with the goalkeeping role. It messed the team up both years. You say Tally elite? The only country team he managed was Down and he took them bck not forward. He was a high thought of as a coach but he been found out in a manager role.
If there much options in the GK area tho? I spoke to a couple of mates from Derry and they reckon there's no stand out candidates for keeper.
Tally is an excellent coach. No idea what he's like for a manager tho. But it was Derry that left themselves in the mess regarding getting a manager in. Too much looking over the shoulder hoping to get Gallagher back in when it was never really going to happen.

Where would they go after Tally?
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