Ulster Championship 2025

Started by Goals_Will_Come, March 25, 2025, 10:16:10 AM

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thewobbler

Blaming Tally for Derry's woes is a tad much.

The new rules mean teams need to register about 25 points to win a 70 min game.

Derry have one intercounty standard forward. That's the start and the end of their problems. No manager can fill that void.

Truthsayer

Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 07, 2025, 09:52:43 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 07, 2025, 09:08:26 AMLook at the way Harte last year and Tally this year have f**ked around with the goalkeeping role. It messed the team up both years. You say Tally elite? The only country team he managed was Down and he took them bck not forward. He was a high thought of as a coach but he been found out in a manager role.
If there much options in the GK area tho? I spoke to a couple of mates from Derry and they reckon there's no stand out candidates for keeper.
Tally is an excellent coach. No idea what he's like for a manager tho. But it was Derry that left themselves in the mess regarding getting a manager in. Too much looking over the shoulder hoping to get Gallagher back in when it was never really going to happen.

Where would they go after Tally?
Paul Devlin ... Roger Keenan... Enda McGinley.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Truthsayer on April 07, 2025, 10:11:10 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 07, 2025, 09:52:43 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 07, 2025, 09:08:26 AMLook at the way Harte last year and Tally this year have f**ked around with the goalkeeping role. It messed the team up both years. You say Tally elite? The only country team he managed was Down and he took them bck not forward. He was a high thought of as a coach but he been found out in a manager role.
If there much options in the GK area tho? I spoke to a couple of mates from Derry and they reckon there's no stand out candidates for keeper.
Tally is an excellent coach. No idea what he's like for a manager tho. But it was Derry that left themselves in the mess regarding getting a manager in. Too much looking over the shoulder hoping to get Gallagher back in when it was never really going to happen.

Where would they go after Tally?
Paul Devlin ... Roger Keenan... Enda McGinley.
Are they improvements? If you had lined those three up along with Tally before last year I would have went with Tally.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

GTP

I believe Truthsayer is simply listing Tyrone men not putting a serious list together.

Truthsayer

I would have an amount of sympathy for Tally... that team was in a total freefall when he took the job. Very hard to turn that around..

tiempo

Adrian Cush has the head screwed on and has had success in Derry, worth a shot?

J70

What were the Sunday Game up to last night with their graphic backdrop to the pundit discussion? They had the Donegal badge, colours and Michael Murphy on the left, and then the Derry badge, colours and Daragh Canavan on the right!

Are their tech staff that clueless?

lurganblue

Quote from: J70 on April 07, 2025, 01:55:22 PMWhat were the Sunday Game up to last night with their graphic backdrop to the pundit discussion? They had the Donegal badge, colours and Michael Murphy on the left, and then the Derry badge, colours and Daragh Canavan on the right!

Are their tech staff that clueless?

Yes

snoopdog

Quote from: lurganblue on April 07, 2025, 01:57:03 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 07, 2025, 01:55:22 PMWhat were the Sunday Game up to last night with their graphic backdrop to the pundit discussion? They had the Donegal badge, colours and Michael Murphy on the left, and then the Derry badge, colours and Daragh Canavan on the right!

Are their tech staff that clueless?

Yes
Rte are useless.

balladmaker

#99
Quote from: J70 on April 06, 2025, 04:40:38 PMRoutine win for Donegal. Derry looked well up for it early on, but the last ten minutes of the first half Daire O'Baoill put in a tour de force to pull Donegal clear, despite the Derry goal and then the mini-burst after half time.

Don't think Derry scoring the penalty would have made much difference in the long run, but Murphy escaping a red might have, given that it came during those couple of minutes when Derry were winning the Patton kick out and closing the gap. After that, Donegal made hay on the Derry kick out and put the game to bed fairly quickly.


Impressive debut for young Roarty, even getting up for a point. McBrearty was superb, as was O'Baoill, Moore, Conor and Shane O'Donnell and Thompson and Big Hughie. Good shape going forward if we can get McGee and Langan fit. Eoin Ban didn't get a run at all either.

Murphy escaping a red definitely made a difference on the game.  With the new rules, going a man down is akin to raising the white flag now, he and Donegal can count themselves lucky.  A closed fist it was, and a sure red card.

J70

Quote from: balladmaker on April 07, 2025, 04:41:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 06, 2025, 04:40:38 PMRoutine win for Donegal. Derry looked well up for it early on, but the last ten minutes of the first half Daire O'Baoill put in a tour de force to pull Donegal clear, despite the Derry goal and then the mini-burst after half time.

Don't think Derry scoring the penalty would have made much difference in the long run, but Murphy escaping a red might have, given that it came during those couple of minutes when Derry were winning the Patton kick out and closing the gap. After that, Donegal made hay on the Derry kick out and put the game to bed fairly quickly.


Impressive debut for young Roarty, even getting up for a point. McBrearty was superb, as was O'Baoill, Moore, Conor and Shane O'Donnell and Thompson and Big Hughie. Good shape going forward if we can get McGee and Langan fit. Eoin Ban didn't get a run at all either.

Murphy escaping a red definitely made a difference on the game.  With the new rules, going a man down is akin to raising the white flag now, he and Donegal can count themselves lucky.  A closed fist it was, and a sure red card.

It's ironic. He's gotten away with closed fist "tackles" a couple of times over the years, yet been sent off on a couple of other occasions for very questionable, soft offences.

screenexile

#101
Quote from: thewobbler on April 07, 2025, 10:06:34 AMBlaming Tally for Derry's woes is a tad much.

The new rules mean teams need to register about 25 points to win a 70 min game.

Derry have one intercounty standard forward. That's the start and the end of their problems. No manager can fill that void.

I 100% agree Tally doesn't take all the blame and the forward situation is true as well but

Gallagher
County Board
Harte & Devlin
Players

All need to shoulder their fair share. Tally has made plenty of mistakes too though. The biggest being the keeper situation!

rodney trotter

Lachlan Murray is a good forward too ,but Derry dont produce many top inside forwards despite the underage success. Watty Grahams won the All Ireland but had no top inside forward. Danny Tallon was decent underage but not Senior County.

statto

Quote from: tiempo on April 07, 2025, 01:11:59 PMAdrian Cush has the head screwed on and has had success in Derry, worth a shot?
The way the last two appointments have went I don't think a third Tyrone man is the way to go for Derry.   

Rossfan

Black card ....
It's have GONE!
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.