Jarlath Burns

Started by ziggysego, August 13, 2011, 03:08:08 PM

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Armagh18

Quote from: tonto1888 on January 19, 2025, 10:06:17 PM
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Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 19, 2025, 09:50:25 AMI still don't understand Naas bringing this clusterfuck down on themselves. They would have 100% known there would be huge issues and distractions as a result, even from within the club. Surely that was going to outweigh the potential benefits.

Exactly.  Never mind the circus it would bring, what about the major risk of losing half your club over this.  There are other good coaches out there.

But does that make it the correct call? Herd mentality. Look, all of it could be true, some of it or none of it, but don't pick and choose, as there will be plenty of emails or calls to plenty of clubs

As much as I like jarlath, fellow Armagh man and what not, I think this was wrong of him. Does he make a call now to a club in Armagh if they field a certain player??
Seems to be keeping the distinction between player and coach clear so I'd say he won't get involved there.

Wouldn't be wise of him to get involved in that one but who knows.

Wasn't wise of him to get involved in the Naas one either yet he did
True that. But this ones very close to home and I'm sure even he would have the sense not to start deciding who can play for clubs.

On another note, I wonder how many club players in the country have been convicted of serious offences (sexual or otherwise) served their time or whatever punishment it may have been and are currently playing?

Duine Inteacht Eile


Wildweasel74

What we gonna do,when a county player gets convicted for drugs.(And it's only a matter of time these days) If he avoids jail, should he be blacklisted as he's a bad influence on the youth, or he get a pass as he's a player and not a role model?

tiempo

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 09:42:02 PMBut there is risk.
Risk that you lose members, funders, community support. Everything that your club is built upon. And for what? A mercenary coach that you'll be replacing before long anyway.

The risk of losing JPs millions was too much, hence no All Star intervention

Gallagher family thrown under the bus and for what, a blue chip name to go with the Game Changer initiative, sycophantic

trueblue1234

You're looking at it like RG is the victim here. That's a starting point most others are not at, so I don't think there's much point in rehashing it.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 20, 2025, 08:21:49 AMYou're looking at it like RG is the victim here. That's a starting point most others are not at, so I don't think there's much point in rehashing it.

The Gallagher family could be the kids, the innocent victims regardless whether you feel RG has doe wrong.

Bringing this all up again on national tv and media has been JB
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

tiempo

Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 20, 2025, 08:21:49 AMYou're looking at it like RG is the victim here. That's a starting point most others are not at, so I don't think there's much point in rehashing it.

I respectfully disagree, I find it alarming that Jarlath used a familys trauma to validate the Game Changer initiative, my previous post references the Gallagher family, all well and good for Jarlath he doesn't have to pick up the pieces in the lives of the 3 children who find their dad splashed across the national media. I don't see the LGFA chief Mícheál Naughton going after Aisling Thompson, if he did that would be seen as a serious case of over-reach and victimisation

trueblue1234

Quote from: tiempo on January 20, 2025, 08:58:50 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 20, 2025, 08:21:49 AMYou're looking at it like RG is the victim here. That's a starting point most others are not at, so I don't think there's much point in rehashing it.

I respectfully disagree, I find it alarming that Jarlath used a familys trauma to validate the Game Changer initiative, my previous post references the Gallagher family, all well and good for Jarlath he doesn't have to pick up the pieces in the lives of the 3 children who find their dad splashed across the national media. I don't see the LGFA chief Mícheál Naughton going after Aisling Thompson, if he did that would be seen as a serious case of over-reach and victimisation
As I said earlier I agree JD doesn't need to get involved and shouldn't have. But my points has always been that Naas should not have created this mess in the first place. They are under no obligation to help RG, and would have know the backlash that was going to happen. It was a ridiculous decision.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

tiempo

Naas haven't created the mess, any more than there's a mess in Corduff

imtommygunn

I imagine committee meetings would be, or would have been, uncomfortable there tbf.

Milltown Row2

From being involved with managers and knowing about selections over the years, the players play a big part in who they feel will make a difference in their game, I'd be very surprised that this wasn't discussed at length with the team/committee and certain members that would have been the money men behind paying appointments 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

trueblue1234

Quote from: tiempo on January 20, 2025, 09:18:42 AMNaas haven't created the mess, any more than there's a mess in Corduff

Look we'll agree to disagree. The fact the ladies team in Corduff had raised concerns about the inclusion of Gallagher shows it was an issue. Why cause divide when it wasn't needed for an outside manager. For me it was a stupid decision.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 20, 2025, 09:30:14 AM
Quote from: tiempo on January 20, 2025, 09:18:42 AMNaas haven't created the mess, any more than there's a mess in Corduff

Look we'll agree to disagree. The fact the ladies team in Corduff had raised concerns about the inclusion of Gallagher shows it was an issue. Why cause divide when it wasn't needed for an outside manager. For me it was a stupid decision.

Been a few stupid decisions tbf
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

imtommygunn

It'd be an issue in any club. Imagine the committee meetings.

Exactly. Multiple stupid decisions being made here.

Solo_run

Could it be that Naas haven't read the room and they think by leaking the email they are trying to the pressure off themselves?