All Ireland Club Championships 2024

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johnnycool

Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.



Is there an official minimum number of teams? There's your problem if not. You're not allowed more than 16 which tbh if you want more is hurting your own counties chances of progression but you could have as few as you please.

No minimum in the Official Guide.

That would be hard to enforce especially with the likes of a weaker code in a lot of counties where there may only be a few teams anyway.

For years there were only 3 teams in the Down senior hurling championship.

How many would be in the Fermanagh or Donegal senior hurling championship?

gallsman

Fermanagh down to 1 senior hurling club I thought I read.

OakLeaf

Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:32:39 PMHow many would be in the Fermanagh or Donegal senior hurling championship?

Donegal have about 8 or so. The winners go into the Ulster Intermediate. They've about 4 teams playing Intermediate, and the winners go into Ulster Junior. Donegal hurling has come on a lot in the last 10 years.

johnnycool

Quote from: OakLeaf on December 09, 2024, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:32:39 PMHow many would be in the Fermanagh or Donegal senior hurling championship?

Donegal have about 8 or so. The winners go into the Ulster Intermediate. They've about 4 teams playing Intermediate, and the winners go into Ulster Junior. Donegal hurling has come on a lot in the last 10 years.

8 hurling teams in total?

You can now understand why the Official Guide can't have a minimum number of senior teams, it's just unworkable across the country.


imtommygunn


OakLeaf

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Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:54:40 PM8 hurling teams in total?

I think so. I think the 4 Intermediate teams are just reserve/seconds teams from the 8 Senior teams. Four Masters and Letterkenny Gaels played in the Ulster Junior league but I didnt see them mentioned in the Donegal championships. Maybe they're just getting going at Senior level. 10 teams at most.

There's only 8 Senior teams in Derry hurling.

Blowitupref

Quote from: statto on December 09, 2024, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 08, 2024, 08:25:22 PMTo win the Senior All-Ireland

Cuala 13/8
Dr Crokes 15/8
Errigal Ciaran 5/2
Coolera Strandhill 9/1


Errigal be the value bet there you would think. 

Agreed they are the best value there and I'll be surprised if they don't at least reach the final.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

SaffronSports

Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.



Is there an official minimum number of teams? There's your problem if not. You're not allowed more than 16 which tbh if you want more is hurting your own counties chances of progression but you could have as few as you please.

No minimum in the Official Guide.

That would be hard to enforce especially with the likes of a weaker code in a lot of counties where there may only be a few teams anyway.

For years there were only 3 teams in the Down senior hurling championship.

How many would be in the Fermanagh or Donegal senior hurling championship?

I think it would have to be done in terms of a percentage more than a hard number as such.

blanketattack

Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

🤣🤣 Whining about a team because they came 5th in the league!
What has a league where teams play without their county players got to do with anything?
All Rathmore's toughest games in the run to win the All-Ireland Intermediate Championship came in Kerry. Barely beating Gaeltacht and Laune Rangers and losing to Milltown/Castlemaine.
Any of the top 10 intermediate clubs in Kerry would have won the All-Ireland that year. There wasn't anything decent out there that year.
Since then there's been some very good intermediate teams and Kerry haven't featured at all. Those clubs didn't go on whining about it being unfair, they just went out and did the business.

Kerry's system predates by a long shot not just the intermediate/junior club All-Ireland series but the senior one as well, so Kerry haven't done anything untoward as a means of gaining an advantage.

ClubScene13

Quote from: blanketattack on December 09, 2024, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

🤣🤣 Whining about a team because they came 5th in the league!
What has a league where teams play without their county players got to do with anything?
All Rathmore's toughest games in the run to win the All-Ireland Intermediate Championship came in Kerry. Barely beating Gaeltacht and Laune Rangers and losing to Milltown/Castlemaine.
Any of the top 10 intermediate clubs in Kerry would have won the All-Ireland that year. There wasn't anything decent out there that year.

Since then there's been some very good intermediate teams and Kerry haven't featured at all. Those clubs didn't go on whining about it being unfair, they just went out and did the business.

Kerry's system predates by a long shot not just the intermediate/junior club All-Ireland series but the senior one as well, so Kerry haven't done anything untoward as a means of gaining an advantage.

Obviously? That's the problem? 8 senior teams with a tradition that strong is hilarious? Ridiculous take good man

ClubScene13

Since then he says, a grand sample size of one year. The mind boggles

Wildweasel74

Divisional teams aren't really a team at all, just a district area. In short a made up team!

twohands!!!

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 09, 2024, 05:49:56 PMDivisional teams aren't really a team at all, just a district area. In short a made up team!

As opposed to "club" teams who are made-up of people from a specific district or area ?

 ;D  ;D  ;D

From the Bunker

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Quote from: blanketattack on December 09, 2024, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

🤣🤣 Whining about a team because they came 5th in the league!
What has a league where teams play without their county players got to do with anything?
All Rathmore's toughest games in the run to win the All-Ireland Intermediate Championship came in Kerry. Barely beating Gaeltacht and Laune Rangers and losing to Milltown/Castlemaine.
Any of the top 10 intermediate clubs in Kerry would have won the All-Ireland that year. There wasn't anything decent out there that year.
Since then there's been some very good intermediate teams and Kerry haven't featured at all. Those clubs didn't go on whining about it being unfair, they just went out and did the business.

Kerry's system predates by a long shot not just the intermediate/junior club All-Ireland series but the senior one as well, so Kerry haven't done anything untoward as a means of gaining an advantage.

That's because 8 of those teams would be Senior in any other county. I Know if we parachuted 8 of our Senior teams into the Mayo Intermediate championship and 8 of our Intermediate teams into the Junior Championship. I'd expect us to win Connacht and AI titles regularly.

tiempo

Flat track bully is the Kerry MO, congratulations in advance to Austin Stacks, embarrassed 4u