All Ireland Club Championships 2024

Started by SouthOfThe Bann, July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AM

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Blowitupref

To win the Senior All-Ireland

Cuala 13/8
Dr Crokes 15/8
Errigal Ciaran 5/2
Coolera Strandhill 9/1
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Rossfan on December 08, 2024, 01:07:08 PM1 -How many Clubs in Ireland?

2- How many play in the Provincial Championships?

I'd suspect answer 2 is around 8% of answer 1.
Half of that 8% play 1 game.

Not exactly a major concern.

Only thing needs rectifying is Antrim.
16 Senior
:o



Luckily we put forward a team that finished 3rd in Division 1 as our intermediate champions.
They were beaten by the team who finished about 20th in Tyrone.

Easttyrone23

My club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

Ciarrai_thuaidh

Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

That was a very good game Rathmore v Galbally, no shame in losing that one.

And by the way,a team who finished 4th in Division 1 of the league in Kerry this year, lost the County Premier Junior Semi final to a team who played in Division 3. Just goes to show once again,League is League and Championship is Championship. Simple concept that many fail to grasp seemingly.
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

Wildweasel74

#334
No, what you can't grasp, is the 9th strongest team in Kerry ends up playing the 17th strongest team from another county. If they were playing the 9th strongest team from these counties. The Kerry teams would win f**k all 75% of the time. Imagine the 9th strongest team in Dublin playing in the All-Ireland Intermediate championship

tiempo

Quote from: Easttyrone23 on December 09, 2024, 12:29:39 AMMy club reached the all Ireland intermediate final in 2022 having beaten multiple intermediate teams from various other counties. We then played a club that finished 5th in division 1 in Kerry. Many other intermediate teams over the years faced the same. We where the best intermediate team in Ireland that year but that was taken away from us by a top Kerry club just like many previous clubs before.

Kerry are the benchmark in Gaelic football, do the Kerry gaels not be embarrassed putting forward senior clubs to take a championship off a intermediate or senior club from another county? I know they aren't the only county that do this,correct me if I'm wrong I think Cavan do it as well. But with the standard of football in Kerry it just makes it morally wrong.

Kerry won 5 in a row All Ireland Junior (county) titles from 2015-2019, look at those team sheets and you'll see countless future Kerry seniors, the integrity of the competition was shat on for the 'glory' of romping to wins and soft days out at Croke Park, its all they care about and within the county it comes from the top. Such was the abuse the competition was reconfigured (for the worse) with the last remaining eligible team in Ireland being the Kilkenny footballers.

Just look at the reaction to their intermediate and junior teams being beaten, Moy and Derrytresk spring to mind, the victors were dragged through the mud because they didn't roll over and have their belly tickled.

The soft mentality is evident down the line at Senior county level, when put up to them, when its not a facile win they have a known tendency to fold

SaffronSports

Crokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Rossfan

Just stop the annual embarrassing whingefest!
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Armagh18

Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.
agree

statto

Quote from: Blowitupref on December 08, 2024, 08:25:22 PMTo win the Senior All-Ireland

Cuala 13/8
Dr Crokes 15/8
Errigal Ciaran 5/2
Coolera Strandhill 9/1

Errigal be the value bet there you would think. 

johnnycool

Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.


armaghniac

Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.

Why should it state such a number in such detail, given that one county has 50 times as many people as another?
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Wildweasel74

Somebody bring up the leagues set up in both Dublin and Cork. They have a serious amount of teams.

johnnycool

Quote from: armaghniac on December 09, 2024, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.

Why should it state such a number in such detail, given that one county has 50 times as many people as another?

Hence why Cork run Premier , Senior A, etc etc.

I'm not sure of the particular reason for 16 as a cut off, but maybe with the introduction of Provincial and AI intermediate and Junior club championships that might need a bit more looking into to given the imbalance towards Kerry club teams at intermediate and junior level.

In intermediate Kerry teams have contested 9 of the 20 AI finals, winning 7, way more than the next county.

In junior it's even more stark, Kerry clubs have contested 15 AI finals, winning 11 in the 22 years of it!

SaffronSports

Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2024, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2024, 10:12:46 AMCrokes Park should take the lead here. Club championships must be tiered one third of your clubs senior, one third intermediate and one third junior.

If you must you can divide within that to senior a and senior b etc but 60 clubs, 21 is the intermediate rep and 41 is the junior.

Official guide says you can't have more than 16 senior clubs in your club senior championship, but Kerry may deem to have that when you take into account their regional teams.



Is there an official minimum number of teams? There's your problem if not. You're not allowed more than 16 which tbh if you want more is hurting your own counties chances of progression but you could have as few as you please.