Ulster Club SFC 2024

Started by general_lee, September 16, 2024, 11:37:31 AM

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tiempo

Quote from: Gold on November 25, 2024, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: Armamike on November 25, 2024, 10:54:57 AMBitter enough defeat for Clann Eireann. Had it in their grasp to win it.  The county players are probably sick of football at this stage of the year.  Shouldn't be surprised by Joe McQuillan anymore. The Canavans are clinical with their shooting. 

CE lost because of Dublin Joe in my opinion. Sin e

Yes he most likely had an impact on the outcome due to rank incompetence, as bad as it gets at that level, needs put out to pasture

tiempo

On another note, CE missed 1-3 in front of the posts in the first half, not clinical enough. And their kickout was demolished in the first half too

gallsman

Christ almighty, big hard Armagh men getting pulled down to the ground by a tug on the shorts. Embarrassing stuff altogether.

If that was given as a black card against your team you'd be fuming.

imtommygunn

Quote from: tiempo on November 25, 2024, 11:54:16 PMOn another note, CE missed 1-3 in front of the posts in the first half, not clinical enough. And their kickout was demolished in the first half too

That's it. The ref wasn't great, more through inconsistency than anything, but in tight games like that you have to take your scores and they didn't and EC, mainly Ruairi Canavan, did. That was the difference not the ref. The goal chance CE missed was great defending but if it was your own team who missed it you'd be raging.

thewobbler

Quote from: Gold on November 25, 2024, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: Armamike on November 25, 2024, 10:54:57 AMBitter enough defeat for Clann Eireann. Had it in their grasp to win it.  The county players are probably sick of football at this stage of the year.  Shouldn't be surprised by Joe McQuillan anymore. The Canavans are clinical with their shooting. 

CE lost because of Dublin Joe in my opinion. Sin e

When the result doesn't go your way, blame anything and everything other than yourself.

This is the way.

general_lee

Quote from: gallsman on November 26, 2024, 07:18:15 AMChrist almighty, big hard Armagh men getting pulled down to the ground by a tug on the shorts. Embarrassing stuff altogether.

If that was given as a black card against your team you'd be fuming.
Was it a deliberate pull down? Did Magee dive? What's actually embarrassing is that the ref didn't even issue a yellow card.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: general_lee on November 26, 2024, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: gallsman on November 26, 2024, 07:18:15 AMChrist almighty, big hard Armagh men getting pulled down to the ground by a tug on the shorts. Embarrassing stuff altogether.

If that was given as a black card against your team you'd be fuming.
Was it a deliberate pull down? Did Magee dive? What's actually embarrassing is that the ref didn't even issue a yellow card.
Quite simply...no. It wasn't a pull down, deliberate or otherwise.

thebigfullforward

See ones here complaining about EC players goading TK into making that challenge as if any other good team wouldn't do the exact same. It would almost be stupid for EC to not take advantage of the oppositions best player being on a yellow. I do think however Ben McDonnell and possible McCartan got away with potential yellow cards

thebigfullforward

Quote from: Mikhailov on November 25, 2024, 06:34:17 PMThe foul when seen again on tv just now was a very debatable card. Normally you could argue it was, but there were many many worse hits and tackles throughout the game which were not dealt with the same severity from McQuillan

In saying that, TK should have known he was in a knife edge - would he have made that rash tackle playing for Armagh?
The man stuck his fingers in Comers eye when he wasn't even playing. He's not exactly an angel

Armagh18

Quote from: thebigfullforward on November 26, 2024, 08:48:08 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on November 25, 2024, 06:34:17 PMThe foul when seen again on tv just now was a very debatable card. Normally you could argue it was, but there were many many worse hits and tackles throughout the game which were not dealt with the same severity from McQuillan

In saying that, TK should have known he was in a knife edge - would he have made that rash tackle playing for Armagh?
The man stuck his fingers in Comers eye when he wasn't even playing. He's not exactly an angel
Why would that be in any way relevant?

Armagh18

Quote from: thebigfullforward on November 26, 2024, 08:41:07 AMSee ones here complaining about EC players goading TK into making that challenge as if any other good team wouldn't do the exact same. It would almost be stupid for EC to not take advantage of the oppositions best player being on a yellow. I do think however Ben McDonnell and possible McCartan got away with potential yellow cards
No complaints about that, goad away and you'd expect CE to do the same if it was Peter Harte or whoever on the yellow card.

Problem is that 1. The second yellow wasn't even a foul nevermind a card and 2. All the EC fouls that should have been cards missed.

And on the penalty, any cynical challenge stopping a goal like that should be a black card offence, if the rules don't agree then change the rules.

statto

Quote from: general_lee on November 26, 2024, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: gallsman on November 26, 2024, 07:18:15 AMChrist almighty, big hard Armagh men getting pulled down to the ground by a tug on the shorts. Embarrassing stuff altogether.

If that was given as a black card against your team you'd be fuming.
Was it a deliberate pull down? Did Magee dive? What's actually embarrassing is that the ref didn't even issue a yellow card.
The defender when Magee originally wins the ball tries to foul him, Magee gets away initially then the second tackle the defender is not close to the ball pulls his shorts and Magee goes to ground.  Magee is one on one vs the keeper and has O'Shea directly across from him for a palm in goal so not sure why he would deliberately go to ground as what seems to be being suggested by other posters. 

One CE left behind them, they can take away a good season retaining Armagh title and much improved performances in Ulster since 2021 when Derrygonelly beat them quite easily.  Cross have also been poor in Ulster in their last few visits so good to see Armagh sides being competitive again.  CE should be really looking at winning 2/3 Armagh titles in a row and giving ulster a real go given their age profile and with more youth coming through also. 


general_lee

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 26, 2024, 08:25:43 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 26, 2024, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: gallsman on November 26, 2024, 07:18:15 AMChrist almighty, big hard Armagh men getting pulled down to the ground by a tug on the shorts. Embarrassing stuff altogether.

If that was given as a black card against your team you'd be fuming.
Was it a deliberate pull down? Did Magee dive? What's actually embarrassing is that the ref didn't even issue a yellow card.
Quite simply...no. It wasn't a pull down, deliberate or otherwise.
So it has to be a Cavanagh-esque rugby tackle to constitute a pull down?

gallsman

"The second one wasn't even a foul"

Aye, dead on.

general_lee

Quote from: statto on November 26, 2024, 09:07:52 AMOne CE left behind them, they can take away a good season retaining Armagh title and much improved performances in Ulster since 2021 when Derrygonelly beat them quite easily.  Cross have also been poor in Ulster in their last few visits so good to see Armagh sides being competitive again.  CE should be really looking at winning 2/3 Armagh titles in a row and giving ulster a real go given their age profile and with more youth coming through also. 
If CE keep everyone fit & available they'll be favourites again for 2025.