Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[Horse Box]

So what did we learn today Kids ?
Firstly Ukraine forcing people into the Military against their will .
Secondly Ukraine shelling civilian areas in the Donbass and Russia .
Next Zalensky`s term as President is up but he won`t step down as he knows he`s not popular with the people so will carry on as a Dictator .
Disturbingly the antidemocracy continues with Ukraine having banned Political Parties and disenfranchised an ethnic minority .
And lastly the Ukrainians are planning on using Chemicals weapons which goes against the Geneva Protocol .

Christ on a Bicycle and all this with the backing of the US and NATO . Desperate carry on !

Also today Moldovan opposition Leader Alexei Lungu was arrested after returning from a Conference in Moscow . Thankfully he was released without charge . Moldovan Government under the thumb of America just like Ukraine and Israel . US ramping up tensions in Eastern Europe ! !

We know nothing of the sort.
This is typical misuse of language. "Forcing people into the military" is usually more concisely stated as conscription and is used in Cyprus, Greece, Austria, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Sweden, and Denmark, and is now proposed for the UK in the current election.
Ordering gas masks does not mean that you are planning to use gas any more than ordering FP2 masks implies that you are planning to spread Covid.
And part of Moldova is occupied by Russia, of course their police want to know what someone was doing going to Moscow. This problem would not exist, as would the shelling in Donbas etc, if Russia simply stayed witin its own borders stopped invading its neighbours.

Do you agree that Russia should withdraw to its own borders?

So much nonsense here . Their is plenty of Video evidence of Military picking men of the street and forcing them into vans and some Videos where men and locals have fought back to stop the Fascists from abducting people .
Transnistria is an independent republic with its own government , most people in the area wants closer ties with Russia even the ethnic Ukrainians living there .
Russia has the right to defend their people in Ukraine who have been discriminated against for years by a Right Wing Regime aided by the US/NATO .

Video below ( hope it plays ) of Ukrainian Military thugs in Dnepropetrovsk , tried to force a Bloke into a Van but they ended up getting attacked by locals and the Chap escaped on a Bike !

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/111880

[Horse Box]

So what did we learn today Kids ?
Firstly Ukraine forcing people into the Military against their will .
Secondly Ukraine shelling civilian areas in the Donbass and Russia .
Next Zalensky`s term as President is up but he won`t step down as he knows he`s not popular with the people so will carry on as a Dictator .
Disturbingly the antidemocracy continues with Ukraine having banned Political Parties and disenfranchised an ethnic minority .
And lastly the Ukrainians are planning on using Chemicals weapons which goes against the Geneva Protocol .

Christ on a Bicycle and all this with the backing of the US and NATO . Desperate carry on !

Also today Moldovan opposition Leader Alexei Lungu was arrested after returning from a Conference in Moscow . Thankfully he was released without charge . Moldovan Government under the thumb of America just like Ukraine and Israel . US ramping up tensions in Eastern Europe ! !

We know nothing of the sort.
This is typical misuse of language. "Forcing people into the military" is usually more concisely stated as conscription and is used in Cyprus, Greece, Austria, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Sweden, and Denmark, and is now proposed for the UK in the current election.
Ordering gas masks does not mean that you are planning to use gas any more than ordering FP2 masks implies that you are planning to spread Covid.
And part of Moldova is occupied by Russia, of course their police want to know what someone was doing going to Moscow. This problem would not exist, as would the shelling in Donbas etc, if Russia simply stayed witin its own borders stopped invading its neighbours.

Do you agree that Russia should withdraw to its own borders?

The shelling of Civilian areas by Ukraine/US/NATO is okay with you then ?

[theskull1]

Very good discussion here that I would urge anyone questioning wtaf is going on in the world to listen to (feel free to come to your own conclusions)

Tucker Carlson - Jeffrey Sachs with probably the smartest and most accurate assessment of the Ukraine war, and American foreign policy more broadly, ever caught on tape.

(20:17) Why did America push for Ukraine to Join NATO?
(58:34) What is a Neocon?
(1:25:28) Regime Change Never Works
(1:36:27) Who Blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline?
(2:01:45) COVID Origins

[armaghniac]

The shelling of Civilian areas by Ukraine/US/NATO is okay with you then ?

No, of course it is not. Some things will occur in a war that should not and they should be stopped as far as possible. However, the bulk of the blame lies with the country that started the war by invading another one and the war can be stopped by that county withdrawing its forces.

In the twilight zone rambling that we are seeing here, there is a lot of crap about America encouraging Ukraine to join NATO. As far as I know, nobody has ever said that Ukraine should join NATO, but the Ukrainians want to join. In the 1990s Ukraine decommissioned its nuclear weapons and much of its munitions, and it received security guarantees from the US and Russia. Given that Russia has shown every intention of reneging on its agreement Ukraine inevitably sought protection from their other guarantor, WTF do you expect them to do? Lie down and let Russia occupy them?

[theskull1]

Ukraine allowed to hit some targets in Russia with US weapons

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy770l9llnzo

Who do you think is moving us close to nuclear ammaghedon?

[Wildweasel74]

Russia invaded Ukraine,end off! Where all the Russian cheerleaders come out off?. All these smaller countries want to join  NATO excately because of aggression from their bully boy neighbour. Ask any Polish person living in Ireland what they think of Russia.To them they been under threat from Russia for yrs. Naturally NATO could do without any of these smaller countries, they provide little benefit, but they want the support of bigger countries like France and Germany, due to the previous history of the way communist Russia behaves.

[theskull1]

US and many posters here are all in on bringing us closer to nuclear disaster. It's the only way it seems 

[armaghniac]

US and many posters here are all in on bringing us closer to nuclear disaster. It's the only way it seems 

What do you suggest? Let Russia occupy anywhere that takes its fancy?

[Brendan]

US and many posters here are all in on bringing us closer to nuclear disaster. It's the only way it seems 

What do you suggest? Let Russia occupy anywhere that takes its fancy?

Brits and Americans do it so why not?

[Milltown Row2]

US and many posters here are all in on bringing us closer to nuclear disaster. It's the only way it seems 

What do you suggest? Let Russia occupy anywhere that takes its fancy?

Brits and Americans do it so why not?

2 wrongs don't make a right?

But good approach 

[gallsman]

Same people here who are cheering on Putin will tell you Chavez was a great leader in Venezuela because he stood up to the US. Forget about the fact the country is/was a kleptocratic police state that violently repressed its own citizens.

[theskull1]

Another 'one side bad other side good' post .....jesus 

Who here is 'cheering on' Putin?

Side point ....
You people are so blinkered you can't even see the hypocrisy when making these stupid statements as if it's got anything to do with this conflict (thinking of all those allies of the US who violently represses its own citizens .... a very very long list)

[J70]

Perhaps you weren't around the gaaboard at the time theskull1, but there was pretty much unanimous opposition to and condemnation here of the actions of the US in the Middle East in the 2000s.

Just because the US are correctly, at least until next January, supporting the Ukrainians, doesn't mean that people can't at the same time remember and condemn their violent and destabilizing actions around the world in the past.

[theskull1]

American politicians present during the Maidan revolution .... totally normal and not destabilizing or in any way coup like.

No one does regime change like the US

Project for the New American Century

Foreign Policy Initiative

[armaghniac]

American politicians present during the Maidan revolution .... totally normal and not destabilizing or in any way coup like.

No one does regime change like the US

Project for the New American Century

Foreign Policy Initiative

What exactly is wrong with any democratic country supporting democracy in another country? We should all do so.