NFL Division 1 2024

[imtommygunn]

You do tend to be better in the championship when you have been worse in the league...

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Back to the title of the thread....we're as good as relegated, losers of Monaghan v Tyrone likely to join us.
2 of Derry, Dublin, Kerry to make the Final.

We seem to be a total mess in many ways this year and a totally abject 2nd half last Saturday doesn't inspire confidence.
Maybe we have a cunning plan.....

Roscommon reverting to the mean again.

Personally I'd prefer to have teams with realistic chance of winning an All Ireland in Division 1.

Donegal, Armagh and even Cork if they ever get their act together will be great additions to Division 1.

[inroundthesquare]

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

1. Darragh Canavan (Tyrone) 1-13
1. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 2-10
3. David Clifford (Kerry) 1-10
4. Shane McGuigan (Derry) 0-12
4. Sean O'Shea (Kerry) 0-12
6. Fergal Boland (Mayo) 0-11
6. Ciaran Daly (Tyrone) 1-08
8. Ryan O'Donoghue (Mayo) 0-09
8. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin) 0-09
10. Paudie Clifford (Kerry) 0-08
10. Jack McCarron (Monaghan) 0-08
10. Diarmuid Murtagh (Roscommon) 0-08
10. Enda Smith (Roscommon) 1-05

[imtommygunn]

Has McGuigan not scored far more than that? Not sure on some of the rest.

[seafoid]

I made my way down to Kerry from Clare yesterday with my 8 year old daughter for what was a mostly enjoyable day. Nice weather, the Kerry scenery beautiful as always. The game wasn't too bad either bar the Tyrone wides and ref a little whistle happy at times for both teams. Doesn't feel like a bad defeat for Tyrone. A few defensive tweaks in the second half and we were back in it but it was too little, too late. During melee, I was disappointed to hear"shower of kna**ers, always were, always will be"from the row behind me. Middle aged, well dressed man from Kerry with small kids. Not nice to hear and disappointing for all within earshot, Kerry and Tyrone fans alike. I know there's always one but it felt very personal. Could do without it.

That sounds very unpleasant. It was definitely not about Tyrone people. Kerry football is not in great shape. In the last 20 years Kerry have been unable to beat first Tyrone and now Dublin. Kerry have lost 5 all Irelands to these 2 teams AFAIK. The roll of honour is now under threat. Kerry fans are used to winning and those days are over, at least for now.

They were reigning All Ireland champions this time last year.
Kerry will never be far away

They lost 3 finals to Dublin. One all Ireland between 2010 and 2019. They are on a shaky scraw these days, on their terms. There are graveyards in Kerry with loads of Ireland medals but things have changed. Dublin winning 9 in 13 years when it previously took them 72 years to win 9 is really scary below in the Kingdom.

[Mario]

Has McGuigan not scored far more than that? Not sure on some of the rest.

I'd say that's accurate enough, I don't think he scored from play v Galway and maybe only 1 v Tyrone but was very good the other 3 games. Probably the case for other top forwards too but McGuigan wins an awful lot of Derry's frees too. V Dublin for example in the first half he was fouled 3 times for 3 converted frees.

[OakLeaf]

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

I don't get this obsession from pundits/commentators about scores from play. They all count the same.

Shane Mc Guigan leads the top scoring charts in division 1 by a clear 7 points (on 1-30).

[Milltown Row2]

Are there stats for assists?

Stats most miles covered and stats for heart rate and stats for hand passes and kick passes and blah blah blah

Someone is making a good living off stats I tell ya

[statto]

From what I see, Dublin seem particularly strong, I know McCarthy starting to slow up but will still start.i think Dublin gonna be around until Fenton, Kilkenny retire. Then most of the heavy lifting will have to be done by O'Callaghan. I know if I was playing against them, that's 3 players that I be earmarking for man to man markers. Jack Barry proved that Fenton influence can be greatly reduced.

Man to man marking of three players is a difficult thing to do as a smart team will exploit the gaps if you are doing that.

[inroundthesquare]

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

I don't get this obsession from pundits/commentators about scores from play. They all count the same.

Shane Mc Guigan leads the top scoring charts in division 1 by a clear 7 points (on 1-30).

So if a player scored 10 points in a game, 9 from play
And another player scored 10 points, 1 from play
You're saying they played equally as well?

[greatpoint]

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

I don't get this obsession from pundits/commentators about scores from play. They all count the same.

Shane Mc Guigan leads the top scoring charts in division 1 by a clear 7 points (on 1-30).

How many from play?

[JoG2]

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

I don't get this obsession from pundits/commentators about scores from play. They all count the same.

Shane Mc Guigan leads the top scoring charts in division 1 by a clear 7 points (on 1-30).

So if a player scored 10 points in a game, 9 from play
And another player scored 10 points, 1 from play
You're saying they played equally as well?

Is there a caveat here of having watched this hypothetical game to make your decision? Or that you could tell just from the scoring stats?

[trailer]

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

I don't get this obsession from pundits/commentators about scores from play. They all count the same.

Shane Mc Guigan leads the top scoring charts in division 1 by a clear 7 points (on 1-30).

So if a player scored 10 points in a game, 9 from play
And another player scored 10 points, 1 from play
You're saying they played equally as well?

Is there a caveat here of having watched this hypothetical game to make your decision? Or that you could tell just from the scoring stats?

What if he wins all the frees himself before kicking them over the bar?

[Wildweasel74]

He won 10 plus himself and scored a no. Of frees against Monaghan which were low %

[JoG2]

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

I don't get this obsession from pundits/commentators about scores from play. They all count the same.

Shane Mc Guigan leads the top scoring charts in division 1 by a clear 7 points (on 1-30).

So if a player scored 10 points in a game, 9 from play
And another player scored 10 points, 1 from play
You're saying they played equally as well?

Is there a caveat here of having watched this hypothetical game to make your decision? Or that you could tell just from the scoring stats?

What if he wins all the frees himself before kicking them over the bar?

See post above