NFL Division 1 2024

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Blowitupref

Quote from: seafoid on March 04, 2024, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 04, 2024, 05:14:29 PMPower Rankings as I see it currently.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Derry
4. Mayo
5. Galway
6. Tyrone
7. Donegal
8. Armagh
9. Roscommon
10. Monaghan
11. Cork
12. Cavan
13. Meath
14. Down
15. Louth
16. Fermanagh
17. Westmeath
18. Kildare
19. Clare
20. Sligo
21. Antrim
22. Laois
23. Offaly
24. Wexford
25. Longford
26. Wicklow
27. Limerick
28. Carlow
29. Leitrim
30. Tipperary
31. London
32. Waterford
33. New York
It's hard to know how accurate current form is in terms of the championship.
Some teams have definitely dropped focus on the league in order to concentrate on later on.

Yes I'd hold off on any rankings until after the championship. Saying that I would expect Kerry,Derry and Dublin to reach the last four of the championship so long as they don't meet each other in the quarter finals.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Armagh18

I'd say if Galway were to get every fit they'd be as close to Dublin and Kerry as anyone. I don't think anyone bar Dublin have been wildly impressive and even at that they aren't near their golden years teams. Derry obviously been going well but at the end of the day it is only the league.

seafoid

#3377
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 04, 2024, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 04, 2024, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 04, 2024, 05:14:29 PMPower Rankings as I see it currently.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Derry
4. Mayo
5. Galway
6. Tyrone
7. Donegal
8. Armagh
9. Roscommon
10. Monaghan
11. Cork
12. Cavan
13. Meath
14. Down
15. Louth
16. Fermanagh
17. Westmeath
18. Kildare
19. Clare
20. Sligo
21. Antrim
22. Laois
23. Offaly
24. Wexford
25. Longford
26. Wicklow
27. Limerick
28. Carlow
29. Leitrim
30. Tipperary
31. London
32. Waterford
33. New York
It's hard to know how accurate current form is in terms of the championship.
Some teams have definitely dropped focus on the league in order to concentrate on later on.

Yes I'd hold off on any rankings until after the championship. Saying that I would expect Kerry,Derry and Dublin to reach the last four of the championship so long as they don't meet each other in the quarter finals.
Kerry and Dublin for sure but Ulster is important in terms of the seeding for the round robin . McGuinness may want to win Ulster...So might McGeeney...


Winning the province is important. Second means second choice in the round robin . Ulster runners up have a 66% chance of drawing either Kerry or Dublin in the RR.  This may mean problems later on if players are injured. Derry need a bit of luck in order  to avoid injuries and fatigue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fgBlpIt9no&t=90s

Wildweasel74

What Down do on you. I think they about 11, Division 3 or not.

seafoid

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0303/1435748-joyce-youd-like-to-play-in-dublin-game-yourself/
In a fortnight's time, the All-Ireland champions arrive in Salthill, a prospect that excites Joyce enough to pine for his playing days. Though Galway's home record is notably underwhelming in comparison to their performances on the road.
"
"Sometimes, this team play better when their backs are to the wall. That's our fifth point on the road and we've none at home.
"Maybe the next home game, we might go up and stay in Athlone or something for the night and come back down."

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: seafoid on March 04, 2024, 06:10:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 04, 2024, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 04, 2024, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 04, 2024, 05:14:29 PMPower Rankings as I see it currently.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Derry
4. Mayo
5. Galway
6. Tyrone
7. Donegal
8. Armagh
9. Roscommon
10. Monaghan
11. Cork
12. Cavan
13. Meath
14. Down
15. Louth
16. Fermanagh
17. Westmeath
18. Kildare
19. Clare
20. Sligo
21. Antrim
22. Laois
23. Offaly
24. Wexford
25. Longford
26. Wicklow
27. Limerick
28. Carlow
29. Leitrim
30. Tipperary
31. London
32. Waterford
33. New York
It's hard to know how accurate current form is in terms of the championship.
Some teams have definitely dropped focus on the league in order to concentrate on later on.

Yes I'd hold off on any rankings until after the championship. Saying that I would expect Kerry,Derry and Dublin to reach the last four of the championship so long as they don't meet each other in the quarter finals.
Kerry and Dublin for sure but Ulster is important in terms of the seeding for the round robin . McGuinness may want to win Ulster...So might McGeeney...


Winning the province is important. Second means second choice in the round robin . Ulster runners up have a 66% chance of drawing either Kerry or Dublin in the RR.  This may mean problems later on if players are injured. Derry need a bit of luck in order  to avoid injuries and fatigue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fgBlpIt9no&t=90s

Sure that's true for any team.

screenexile

I think any match up between Derry/Armagh/Mayo/Galway is a 50/50 game if they play later on in the year.

You could possibly add Donegal or Tyrone or Roscommon to that list if they get their act together.

Wildweasel74

#3382
From what I see, Dublin seem particularly strong, I know McCarthy starting to slow up but will still start.i think Dublin gonna be around until Fenton, Kilkenny retire. Then most of the heavy lifting will have to be done by O'Callaghan. I know if I was playing against them, that's 3 players that I be earmarking for man to man markers. Jack Barry proved that Fenton influence can be greatly reduced.

Armagh18

Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2024, 10:45:50 PMI think any match up between Derry/Armagh/Mayo/Galway is a 50/50 game if they play later on in the year.

You could possibly add Donegal or Tyrone or Roscommon to that list if they get their act together.
Agreed, would probably say ourselves and Tyrone/Donegal is probably 50/50 as well given the rivalries there. Think any of those 5 capable of catching Kerry in a one off game and Dublin if it was out of Croker.

Armagh18

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 04, 2024, 10:49:49 PMFrom what I see, Dublin seem particularly strong, I know McCarthy starring to slow up but will still start.i think Dublin gonna be around until Fenton, Kilkenny retire. Then most of the heavy lifting will have to be done by O'Callaghan. I know if I was playing against them, that's 3 players that I be earmarking for man to man markers. Jack Barry proved that Fenton influence can be greatly reduced.
Glass vs Fenton would be some battle.

ClubScene13

Quote from: Whishtup on March 04, 2024, 01:38:12 PMI made my way down to Kerry from Clare yesterday with my 8 year old daughter for what was a mostly enjoyable day. Nice weather, the Kerry scenery beautiful as always. The game wasn't too bad either bar the Tyrone wides and ref a little whistle happy at times for both teams. Doesn't feel like a bad defeat for Tyrone. A few defensive tweaks in the second half and we were back in it but it was too little, too late. During melee, I was disappointed to hear"shower of kna**ers, always were, always will be"from the row behind me. Middle aged, well dressed man from Kerry with small kids. Not nice to hear and disappointing for all within earshot, Kerry and Tyrone fans alike. I know there's always one but it felt very personal. Could do without it.

I've had a couple of hairy enough experiences at Croke Park for Tyrone v Kerry games. It definitely over steps the mark from time to time in that fixture. There's also a lorry load of bad incidents in the All Ireland club series between Tyrone and Kerry teams in the last 20 years. I'd support Derry or Armagh in a game against Kerry, wouldn't even be up for debate either

seafoid

Quote from: Whishtup on March 04, 2024, 01:38:12 PMI made my way down to Kerry from Clare yesterday with my 8 year old daughter for what was a mostly enjoyable day. Nice weather, the Kerry scenery beautiful as always. The game wasn't too bad either bar the Tyrone wides and ref a little whistle happy at times for both teams. Doesn't feel like a bad defeat for Tyrone. A few defensive tweaks in the second half and we were back in it but it was too little, too late. During melee, I was disappointed to hear"shower of kna**ers, always were, always will be"from the row behind me. Middle aged, well dressed man from Kerry with small kids. Not nice to hear and disappointing for all within earshot, Kerry and Tyrone fans alike. I know there's always one but it felt very personal. Could do without it.
That sounds very unpleasant. It was definitely not about Tyrone people. Kerry football is not in great shape. In the last 20 years Kerry have been unable to beat first Tyrone and now Dublin. Kerry have lost 5 all Irelands to these 2 teams AFAIK. The roll of honour is now under threat. Kerry fans are used to winning and those days are over, at least for now.

galwayman

Quote from: seafoid on March 05, 2024, 08:08:47 AM
Quote from: Whishtup on March 04, 2024, 01:38:12 PMI made my way down to Kerry from Clare yesterday with my 8 year old daughter for what was a mostly enjoyable day. Nice weather, the Kerry scenery beautiful as always. The game wasn't too bad either bar the Tyrone wides and ref a little whistle happy at times for both teams. Doesn't feel like a bad defeat for Tyrone. A few defensive tweaks in the second half and we were back in it but it was too little, too late. During melee, I was disappointed to hear"shower of kna**ers, always were, always will be"from the row behind me. Middle aged, well dressed man from Kerry with small kids. Not nice to hear and disappointing for all within earshot, Kerry and Tyrone fans alike. I know there's always one but it felt very personal. Could do without it.
That sounds very unpleasant. It was definitely not about Tyrone people. Kerry football is not in great shape. In the last 20 years Kerry have been unable to beat first Tyrone and now Dublin. Kerry have lost 5 all Irelands to these 2 teams AFAIK. The roll of honour is now under threat. Kerry fans are used to winning and those days are over, at least for now.
They were reigning All Ireland champions this time last year.
Kerry will never be far away

imtommygunn

QuoteIt was January, 2003, when then Kerry manager Paidi O Se caused huge controversy when he referred to Kerry fans as "f****** animals". He later apologised, stating that he meant they always demanded the most from his side.

Yeah you would think there Kerry are the poor relations. They are always there or thereabouts and will be again this year.

Rossfan

Back to the title of the thread....we're as good as relegated, losers of Monaghan v Tyrone likely to join us.
2 of Derry, Dublin, Kerry to make the Final.

We seem to be a total mess in many ways this year and a totally abject 2nd half last Saturday doesn't inspire confidence.
Maybe we have a cunning plan.....
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.