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Does anyone really believe the woe is us nonsense from the Armagh folk on this thread?

I think everyone is expecting a comfortable win for Armagh in front of a partisan capacity crowd at their home ground against a mentally suspect Derry group lacking anything like the kind of squad depth Armagh has.

I'm already planning my trip to Killarney for the next round.

Armagh by close to double figures, pulling up.

That's what we were being told in the run up to both the Tyrone and Monaghan matches........

At the end of the 70min game, both teams went into the dressing rooms knackered. At the resumption of play ET Monaghan players were still knackered, falling to ground with cramp, yet not a bother on the Armagh players, bounced onto the pitch and played as fresh as a daisy, which begs the question - what was put into their apple juice drinks during the break?

Although you're clearly on the wind up your manager had a very strange take on that citing Monaghan having had extra time in the Derry match! If inter-county players can't recover from an extra 20 minutes football two weeks later he needs to be asking questions of his S&C coach.

We never do things easy and although clearly the better team overall Monaghan showed their resilience again in the fourth quarter.

Although there were very few poor performances from an Armagh perspective Oisin Conaty deserves special mention again. How lucky we are to have him.

Disappointed in the stewarding on the Hill yesterday.  We were in at 2.30 to get a good spot as we had an elderly supporter with us. Had a great spot in the middle of the field and the area around us was full 30 minutes before throw in yet the stewards at the top kept sending latecomers into our section through to throw in and beyond when they should have had it closed and sending people on down past our section.

Looks like Monaghan should concede a walkover to save themselves being embarrassed🙄

Not many Armagh posters at that craic.  Most recent prediction of a one-sided game came from a Derry poster up to no good 

How could you forget renshaws.

Wasn't a frequent attender. It was for the unsophisticated palates from Tyrone, Armagh and Derry. I was more of a Dukes man myself.

Dukes.....now you're talking. Lived in Ireton St just down the road. Think I was in it 3 nights a week every week for pints of Smithwicks. Great times.

Yeah you'd never catch Armagh or Derry ones at that lark 

It needs a slap no matter who does it. That keep you happy?

It's not about who does it, it's about who pontificates about it. You understand the difference?

I do.

Yeah you'd never catch Armagh or Derry ones at that lark 

It needs a slap no matter who does it. That keep you happy?

I would read too much into the scoreline.  Same if it happened in the final. They need to put in a performance against a bigger team and they wont get that for a while

That Monaghan side are still dogged as f**k and will be absolutely gunning for us. Always a bogey team for us as we well remember from '23

Down folded yesterday afer the first Armagh goal. Monaghan have the houdini act in their DNA, so they'll not give up just because we have a good first half. With Tyrone, we let them back in, we should not accord Monaghan the same opportunity.

Yesterday's match has no relevance to the final. Down were very poor. The match is barely worth reviewing.  One word for Pete McGrath and his "Down don't bend the knee to anyone" comment after the Donegal win.  What a load of nonsense.

Monaghan will bring lots more and will be provide a hell of a challenge. Discipline will be key with Beggan about.  No doubt he will get a lot of media attention in the build up and in a lot of ways he deserves it for his contribution to Monaghan football.  I think Geezer will go after his kickouts though as he is very hit and miss with them.  He had several howlers on Saturday evening and was the same in the Ulster club final.

I was stood next to an Armagh young fella on the hill at the Derry Armagh final, spent the whole game shouting "McEvoy you w**ker" everytime he touched the ball despite being about 100 yards from the pitch

Gobshites from every county.

Correct. The worst behaviour I have seen was a crowd of Derry ones at the same game. Pished out of their heads and kept singing "I wish I was back home in Derry" (that one line of the song) all the way through the game.  When they won the penalty shootout they knocked my daughter off her feet jumping around. I got out of there before I did something I would have regretted.

Ben Crealey out for the season, Donegal huge favourites for Ulster now.

They were huge favourites regardless

Somebody tell Paddy Power that. Currently 10/11, hardly huge favourites.
Crealey is Armagh's most important player in many ways. Massive, massive blow.

The price for those tickets are very hard to justify. I went to the K Club on the Friday and found there was a lot of sitting about (in what was a very showery day) to see very little golf. Obviously, only 4 groups on the course at any one time and with massive crowds we had to sit at one green for some hours before they came through.

I was at the 1st tee for Darren Clarke which was a very memorable occasion but I wouldn't be putting my hand in the pocket for it again.

The inconsistency of this Armagh team is there for all to see and that leads to the worries for the Armagh support. If Armagh play like they did for the first twenty minutes of the Kerry game and the first half of the Dublin game they will be beaten by Tyrone.  They're not isolated either when you look at parts of the Mayo and Roscommon games, the whole league really. I don't think anyone from Armagh is poor mouthing.

On the other hand, if we play like we have done in the other parts of the games throughout the league we could beat anyone in the country. Very few teams could have given that Kerry team a 10 point start and come back the way we did.

Our summer will hinge on the availability of our injured players.

I dealt with a lady who was a nurse in Musgrave Park hospital.  She went out to her car after she came off duty one night.  The car was parked in a space with the front of the car pointing in.  She approached her car from the back and got into her car and reversed out. Members of the local travelling community had freewheeled in behind her car with the lights off so she couldn't see them and she reversed into them causing minimal damage to both cars (cracked lights at most).

As sure as night follows day she received a solicitor's letter a few weeks letter claiming personal injuries for £30,000.  She helped her insurance company defend the case all the way to court.  The judge awarded the claimants £1 to avoid an appeal which would have followed if he had of kicked the case out.

Her barrister told her to go back to her insurers and ask for her No Claims Bonus to be reinstated due to the fact that she had saved them £30,000 by helping them in the defence.

The insurance company, who are no longer in business, told her that they wouldn't do so and she was out hundreds of pounds in increased premiums.

The Kerry hatred/begrudgery towards Ulster isn't confined to Spillane. Seems to do their heads in when they lose to any Ulster team. Last year many of them on about how they won the All Ireland final ..and the Ulster championship because of the teams they beat. Worst shower of begrudgers and Spillane top of that pile. Makes beating them all the sweeter though.

Give a listen to last week's Indo GAA podcast. The presenter from Derry is excellent. Spillane brings every discussion back to a nauseating Kerry love in, while a Dick Clerkin as usual cannot contain his disdain for all things Armagh.  ( this week it's McGeeney's post interview sarcasm.)

At least Spillane can have some basis for a Kerry love-in. Clerkin can hardly have a Monaghan love-in, so all he can do is slag Armagh. 

He openly admitted that he was jealous of this Armagh team as they had won an AI and the Monaghan team that he was on didn't.

That table backs up the point a few of us Armagh posters were making about the strength in depth of our panel.  It has been pushed to the limit over the league campaign. Hopefully the injured players will start to come back over the next few weeks.

[We are still in the top half dozen in Ireland.]

Some game in Armagh today and great atmosphere there. Could've gone either way.

Glad Armagh didn't go down, too good for Div 2.

Armagh should have got points from other games, especially Galway, and not been in danger today. We are still in the top half dozen in Ireland.

Both officially and in "that feels about right terms".

Where the "it's Kerry, Donegal or us for Sam" chat is coming from I've absolutely no idea.

Well I think it's Kerry's to lose but Armagh have been missing at least 5 key players for every game this season but were never more than a score (I think) off any team. So whilst there's a lot to work on there's plenty of positives to be taken from the campaign.

Cool story, but "there are a lot of positives" isn't quite the same thing as proclaiming "we're one of two teams that can beat Kerry", is it?

Lots of teams are missing players, get over it. Armagh fans have been, rightly, praising their depth for the last few years. You can't just turn around and go "ah sure we're missing a few lads, we're miles better than that".

Your fixation with Armagh is not healthy. Armagh's strength in depth from 2024 has disappeared.  The hard work that Geezer has put in building that squad depth over the years has stood to us in this league campaign and was severely tested with really no bench worth talking about up until the last two weeks. Lads like Cian McConville and Tomas McCormack saved our bacon in this league campaign.  I'm sure you don't need me to give you the list of absentees that Armagh have.  Our best player, our play maker and our best man marker is only a starting point.

At this point, it is very much Kerry's to lose, like most Armagh posters have said.

That said, Kerry, like every other team, are an injury or two to key players to coming back towards the pack.