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I would suggest Greencastle will struggle this year, not going well by all reports. Few in-house issues. Seems to always be a problem in Greencastle which is a pity considering their ability.

Tyrone club football really does suck.

From the outside looking in, Garvaghy isn't the problem here.

I would see it as a case of the clubs sacking the fire brigade, setting their senior football leagues on fire, then pointing the finger of blame at any firemen who actually try to help.

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If clubs are unwilling to play club league football without u20 players, there is no solution available. None.

So what happens if the clubs just decide we dont want to play games without our senior county men? Would they postpone them until Tyrone get kncked out or would they'll tell them to suck it up... always a solution if the right heads are thinking, unfortunately i think theres a few up in Garvaghy spend to much time looking at the windmills

I don't think you're aware of the decision making process for county boards.

The county committee, comprised of a delegate from each club, make the final call on everything.

So yes, if the clubs via their delegate wanted the league postponed until the County season was over, and voted for that, then that would happen. No question.

It's the county committee that voted to go up to 7 starred games this year etc. The clubs are in control.

So edendork, eglish, errigal ciaran and a few others have put complaints in about the fixtures? Cant be changed as "not enough time".

Whos in control now?

There hasn't been a county committee meeting since that letter. If a majority vote for change at the next meeting then it will be changed.

The teams mentioned above by myself are minority in this case as they are lucky to have a numbers of senior players, something they should be very proud of. Not one team facing these times will vote for a re-jig of fixtures due to their chances of winning / staying in division 1 will be decreased by facing the teams subject to this punishment at the end of the season (with their full squad).

From the outside looking in, Garvaghy isn't the problem here.

I would see it as a case of the clubs sacking the fire brigade, setting their senior football leagues on fire, then pointing the finger of blame at any firemen who actually try to help.

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If clubs are unwilling to play club league football without u20 players, there is no solution available. None.

So what happens if the clubs just decide we dont want to play games without our senior county men? Would they postpone them until Tyrone get kncked out or would they'll tell them to suck it up... always a solution if the right heads are thinking, unfortunately i think theres a few up in Garvaghy spend to much time looking at the windmills

I don't think you're aware of the decision making process for county boards.

The county committee, comprised of a delegate from each club, make the final call on everything.

So yes, if the clubs via their delegate wanted the league postponed until the County season was over, and voted for that, then that would happen. No question.

It's the county committee that voted to go up to 7 starred games this year etc. The clubs are in control.

So edendork, eglish, errigal ciaran and a few others have put complaints in about the fixtures? Cant be changed as "not enough time".

Whos in control now?

Will the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?

If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.

Tyrone are aiming to win a 4th all Ireland title in the last 5 years at u20 level and there's some Tyrone folk complaining because it results in the acl being delayed a few weeks. Most counties would kill to be in that situation.

Blame the county board - the club players are now against u20s winning which is the truth. Its not ideal but that's the way its turned out. The club players should be giving priority in this scenario...

But the u20 players are club players?

And clubs have been totally against playing without their u20 players.

Would it be prioritising club players to force them to play ACL games without their best players for 4/5 rounds, increasing likelihood of relegation/missing out on promotion?

Teams are already doing that which is what the starred games mean incase you didn't realise.
Some teams have county players and agree to play on without them even with the fixtures being played against teams with 0 county players, all being held up because some teams have a few 20s and 0 senior players, if u20s are the teams "best players" then they have no hope of surviving anyhow. Just something to cry over.

Will the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?

If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.

Tyrone are aiming to win a 4th all Ireland title in the last 5 years at u20 level and there's some Tyrone folk complaining because it results in the acl being delayed a few weeks. Most counties would kill to be in that situation.

Blame the county board - the club players are now against u20s winning which is the truth. Its not ideal but that's the way its turned out. The club players should be giving priority in this scenario...

[Concanon probably the biggest talent out of Ardboe.]

McCullagh - What's his injury?

Concanon probably the biggest talent out of Ardboe. Id find it very surprising if Tyrone don't go on to win it now.

HAIL HAIL - Paul Devlin - HAIL HAIL

Conor Devlin captaining the team at centre half back has been very impressive and seems to be getting better every game.

Sorry forgot to include Conor Devlin - another good talent. Ardboe must have plenty of youth coming through?

McCullagh - What's his injury?

Concanon probably the biggest talent out of Ardboe. Id find it very surprising if Tyrone don't go on to win it now.

HAIL HAIL - Paul Devlin - HAIL HAIL

Will the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?

If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

My starting 15 for the rest of the year.

Morgan

J-Clark / swap with ND
Teague
Quinn

McKernain
Devlin / swap with JC
McGeary

Kilpatrick / swap with Kennedy
Kennedy / swap with Kilpatrick

Daly
McElholm
McDonnell

D-Canavan
Mattie D
Jordan

Why would it actually matter??? All teams will be playing for the same points. Teams with plenty of county players can now actually get their full team instead of teams getting enough points to stay up because they got lucky to play trillick / errigal ciaran with half a team (starred game). I think its fair and I hope in this scenario you explained above ^ have 11 rounds worth 3 points. Premier league point system, im sure they know more about it than we do.

Who was the Tyrone commentator on Ulster TV last night? Was very impressed with him and the Cavan commentator. Zero bias and called it well.

Am I right in thinking you were happy with how you commentated last night?

At times I see so many similarities to the issues in Derry the last number of years. Really good underage teams with an expectation of more quickly, internal issues, good individuals but lack of cohesion as a team.
Whatever you guys think the championship and a rattle at Armagh should bring the best out of them. If it doesn't then nothing will and it may be a back to the drawing board job.
Derry and Tyrone both taking a bit of stick after the league campaign. Would be nice to see a Derry  v Tyrone Ulster final to shut a lot of people up across the country.
One thing lads. If you get a rattle at Donegal beat the lining out of them in all aspects.

Good luck in Armagh.

At last!!!!! one decent message on this board that wasn't hitting on the players/management. Someone with a bit of an idea and some respect.

Typical of it to come from someone outside the county. Fair play Squareball71 you have give me some hope for this board.

Tyrone will give Armagh all they want and I don't think 70 minutes will be enough time for either team. Right to the wire! Like it always is. Who gives two fucks about the 7 friendlies we played this year, last year or the last 5 year??? Tyrone get this thing nailed on for championship. Full 15 and stuck into Armagh. See yous in the athletic grounds and for the rest of yous gimps who give off yet never attend a game enjoy the game in your miserable home with yourself. Hope your dodgy stick glitches the entire game.

UP Tyrone.

Tyrone bingo card USFC vs Armagh

1. Aidy Clarke to be named in starting team but doesn't start

2. Ethan Jordan (our top scorer) to be on the bench.

Hearing he took the blame for his mate at the university?