Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, November 09, 2006, 10:54:03 PM

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RedHand88

Was the whole point of the split championship not to minimise the impact of county players missing from their clubs? Or was it just to get the club championship done earlier?

RouskyRanger

Will the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).
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W.A.G. Lover

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Leagues started on the Sunday following the all-ireland u20 final last year. Less time for u-20 lads to recover, but it fits in another game to prevent the bottle neck in August for all club players.
So, if they lost next Wednesday 29th, leagues could start Sunday 4th May and another game then on Friday 8th May.

bogball88

Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
Friday 8th May at earliest now (that's if beat in Ulster Final)
Friday 15th May (if beat in All Ireland Semi Final)*
Friday 22nd May (if reach All Ireland Final)

*Surprised they haven't invented a Quarter Final or a Preliminary Quarter Final

Onthe40

wouldn't rule out end of may
they don't seem to be the most talented group bar a few exceptions, but they essentially outworked and out muscled Derry & Donegal in both 2nd halves of the last 2 games
that desire will take beating

I only saw 2nd half, Roarty didn't appear to do much..i thought at times in last 10-15 mins when he could've got on ball he looked rather passive?

GlenMan

Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on April 23, 2026, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: GlenMan on April 23, 2026, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on April 23, 2026, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.
Don't blame them. Last year Loughmacrory for example they had McElholm and McCullagh on the U20s. 2 huge losses for them

O’neill Army

Quote from: GlenMan on April 23, 2026, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on April 23, 2026, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.

Tyrone are aiming to win a 4th all Ireland title in the last 5 years at u20 level and there's some Tyrone folk complaining because it results in the acl being delayed a few weeks. Most counties would kill to be in that situation.

square_ball

Or alternatively you can just get on with club football at the same time as trying to win an u20 all ireland?

RedHand88

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Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on April 23, 2026, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

I'd say about 5-10 years ago.
The likes of Donaghmore, Loughmacrory etc have been very reliant on U20s in the last few years.
My own club have at least a few that are regular starters (albeit not county).
Senior teams are younger than they used to be.

Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: O'neill Army on April 24, 2026, 07:11:14 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on April 23, 2026, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on April 23, 2026, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.

Tyrone are aiming to win a 4th all Ireland title in the last 5 years at u20 level and there's some Tyrone folk complaining because it results in the acl being delayed a few weeks. Most counties would kill to be in that situation.

Blame the county board - the club players are now against u20s winning which is the truth. Its not ideal but that's the way its turned out. The club players should be giving priority in this scenario...
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.

GlenMan

Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on April 24, 2026, 09:58:10 AM
Quote from: O'neill Army on April 24, 2026, 07:11:14 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on April 23, 2026, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on April 23, 2026, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.

Tyrone are aiming to win a 4th all Ireland title in the last 5 years at u20 level and there's some Tyrone folk complaining because it results in the acl being delayed a few weeks. Most counties would kill to be in that situation.

Blame the county board - the club players are now against u20s winning which is the truth. Its not ideal but that's the way its turned out. The club players should be giving priority in this scenario...

But the u20 players are club players?

And clubs have been totally against playing without their u20 players.

Would it be prioritising club players to force them to play ACL games without their best players for 4/5 rounds, increasing likelihood of relegation/missing out on promotion?

Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: GlenMan on April 24, 2026, 10:27:45 AM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on April 24, 2026, 09:58:10 AM
Quote from: O'neill Army on April 24, 2026, 07:11:14 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on April 23, 2026, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: Sean Og Patriots on April 23, 2026, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.

Tyrone are aiming to win a 4th all Ireland title in the last 5 years at u20 level and there's some Tyrone folk complaining because it results in the acl being delayed a few weeks. Most counties would kill to be in that situation.

Blame the county board - the club players are now against u20s winning which is the truth. Its not ideal but that's the way its turned out. The club players should be giving priority in this scenario...

But the u20 players are club players?

And clubs have been totally against playing without their u20 players.

Would it be prioritising club players to force them to play ACL games without their best players for 4/5 rounds, increasing likelihood of relegation/missing out on promotion?

Teams are already doing that which is what the starred games mean incase you didn't realise.
Some teams have county players and agree to play on without them even with the fixtures being played against teams with 0 county players, all being held up because some teams have a few 20s and 0 senior players, if u20s are the teams "best players" then they have no hope of surviving anyhow. Just something to cry over.

I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.