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Medic

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 13, 2012, 06:04:57 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 13, 2012, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 13, 2012, 05:58:46 PM
Fergie got United to finish on equal points with City with one of the worst squads ever.


I know it's really easy to be wise after the event. But the night Vidic done his ACL was the night United lost it all.

An expensive "worst squad ever", it's not as if he took some pub team to the top of the league.

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norabeag

Quote from: SHEEDY on May 13, 2012, 06:05:33 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 13, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 13, 2012, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 13, 2012, 05:13:26 PM
Unbelievable Jeff.
Delighted for Evra.
how sad is it that a team that finished 37pts behind should try to gloat at a team that lost it on goal difference. hard luck utd.

In fairness Evra looks a gloat. Remember old trafford? Let him have his fill of it.


Everton be delighted if united start to spend, they'll get a load of players on the cheap.
maybe liverpool should have tried to sign ex utd players. might have helped them finish top dogs on merseyside.
As long as they keep KKK there is every chance Tranmere might overtake them.

From the Bunker

Have to say, there has not been a Premiership won yet that has not been bought, in one way or another. Once you have the top professional players who can be bought by the financially stronger clubs there's no chance for the poorer sides.

United fans have been playing 'the players coming through' card, but this is really a myth. I mean there's a trickle of players coming through, but all the first team regulars are 15 Million plus signings. What regulars do not fit into this cathegory (ignoring Giggs and Scholes)?

Today, is a worring day for Manchester United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelski and (to a far lesser degree) Liverpool. City are now champions of the most popular league in the world. No longer will they have to fool players like Robinho into signing for them, no longer will they have to make do with good players who have massive baggage.


ross4life

Quote from: ross4life on May 01, 2012, 06:24:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 01, 2012, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 01, 2012, 05:56:05 PM
A strange season has almost reached it's conclusion. Looking back you could say the neighbours almost copied each other.

Champions league group stage knock outs.
Eliminated in the same round of the Europa league.
Early FA cup exits.
Both failed to reach the league cup final.
In the league both have the same amount of wins,draws,defeats & points


It's looks like City will win it now on goal difference & as SLIGONIAN said above you couldn't begrudge them after waiting 44yrs for the title but as the saying goes.. there's a thin line between success and failure

It's always seems a thin line when it's you first title in a long time. The thinnest of lines has surely to be Arsenals late second goal to win the title at Anfield in 1989. They won the title on Goals scored.
Indeed i watched that game live on ITV was a unreal way to win a title probably will never be matched.
Was surpassed today. Liverpool recovered to win the title the following season it's what United need to do now & they are more than capable.
The key to success is to be consistently competitive -- if you bang on the door often it will open

Saffrongael

Quote from: AFS on May 13, 2012, 07:30:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 13, 2012, 07:09:25 PM
Have to say, there has not been a Premiership won yet that has not been bought, in one way or another. Once you have the top professional players who can be bought by the financially stronger clubs there's no chance for the poorer sides.

United fans have been playing 'the players coming through' card, but this is really a myth. I mean there's a trickle of players coming through, but all the first team regulars are 15 Million plus signings. What regulars do not fit into this cathegory (ignoring Giggs and Scholes)?

Today, is a worring day for Manchester United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelski and (to a far lesser degree) Liverpool. City are now champions of the most popular league in the world. No longer will they have to fool players like Robinho into signing for them, no longer will they have to make do with good players who have massive baggage.

Evra, Rafael, Vidic, Evans, Smalling, Welbeck, Hernandez - about half the team.

Similar to City then.
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

ross4life

Quote from: AFS on May 13, 2012, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 13, 2012, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 13, 2012, 05:58:46 PM
Fergie got United to finish on equal points with City with one of the worst squads ever.


I know it's really easy to be wise after the event. But the night Vidic done his ACL was the night United lost it all.

An expensive "worst squad ever", it's not as if he took some pub team to the top of the league.

That one really has been the calling card of the gobshite this season. A simple sound bite for simple football fans.

This one from the same poster is even better
Quote from: orangeman on May 13, 2012, 05:50:58 PM

They might have only won the title on goal difference but to be fair City were 10 points a better team than United.
Only a few weeks ago United were leading the league by eight points. The best team won the league congrats to them but no need to talk a pile of nonsense after it's won.
The key to success is to be consistently competitive -- if you bang on the door often it will open

The Worker

Quote from: ross4life on May 13, 2012, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: AFS on May 13, 2012, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 13, 2012, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 13, 2012, 05:58:46 PM
Fergie got United to finish on equal points with City with one of the worst squads ever.


I know it's really easy to be wise after the event. But the night Vidic done his ACL was the night United lost it all.

An expensive "worst squad ever", it's not as if he took some pub team to the top of the league.

That one really has been the calling card of the gobshite this season. A simple sound bite for simple football fans.

This one from the same poster is even better
Quote from: orangeman on May 13, 2012, 05:50:58 PM

They might have only won the title on goal difference but to be fair City were 10 points a better team than United.
Only a few weeks ago United were leading the league by eight points. The best team won the league congrats to them but no need to talk a pile of nonsense after it's won.


Says the man who said had vidic been fit utd would have won the league by 10 points! You couldnt make it up.

ross4life

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Says the man who said had vidic been fit utd would have won the league by 10 points! You couldnt make it up.
Wrong. What i really said was the Vidic injury has cost United about -10 points the same could be said about Tevez if he didn't go AWOL for most of the season. Both finished on 89 points i see no reason why both couldn't have ended up with the same points as Real Madrid are about to get in Spain.
The key to success is to be consistently competitive -- if you bang on the door often it will open

Bord na Mona man

Quote from: From the Bunker on May 13, 2012, 07:09:25 PM
Have to say, there has not been a Premiership won yet that has not been bought, in one way or another. Once you have the top professional players who can be bought by the financially stronger clubs there's no chance for the poorer sides.
All titles are "bought" to differing degree. Where the money comes from is another matter.
Since the Premier League started, 2 clubs (Man Utd and Arsenal) have financed their titles through money generated within their club. 3 clubs (Chelsea, Blackburn and now City) have won the titles from large external cash injections.
Could City keep winning titles if the cash transfusions stopped? Probably not.

There is every chance for poorer sides...They just need to find a generous Sugar Daddy.  ;)

The Worker

I hope you're in good Kompany. I can imagine this is a difficult time for United fans. Don't take it to Hart. Yaya gotta keep your head up. It wont be De Jong before you're smiling again. Look for the Silva lining. It may sound a bit Clichy but you'll be okay.

From the Bunker

Quote from: ross4life on May 13, 2012, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 01, 2012, 06:24:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 01, 2012, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 01, 2012, 05:56:05 PM
A strange season has almost reached it's conclusion. Looking back you could say the neighbours almost copied each other.

Champions league group stage knock outs.
Eliminated in the same round of the Europa league.
Early FA cup exits.
Both failed to reach the league cup final.
In the league both have the same amount of wins,draws,defeats & points


It's looks like City will win it now on goal difference & as SLIGONIAN said above you couldn't begrudge them after waiting 44yrs for the title but as the saying goes.. there's a thin line between success and failure

It's always seems a thin line when it's you first title in a long time. The thinnest of lines has surely to be Arsenals late second goal to win the title at Anfield in 1989. They won the title on Goals scored.
Indeed i watched that game live on ITV was a unreal way to win a title probably will never be matched.
Was surpassed today. Liverpool recovered to win the title the following season it's what United need to do now & they are more than capable.

Nah, Liverpool beat West Ham Utd 5-1 in their second last game of the season. This put them three points ahead of Arsenal and 4 goals better on Goal difference. Think of it Arsenal had to go to Anfield, the team in front of them (who were winning leagues year in year for fun) and beat them by two clear goals. They scored their second goal in injury time. In doing so they won the league on goals scored. Both had a goal difference of +37. The winning of the title came down to Arsenal Scoring 8 more goals. Arsenal had not won the league before this since the early 70's!




screenexile

To my mind inexperience and a bit of bad luck are the reasons why City didn't win the league more comfortably. The fact that they hadn't won the league before contributed to their few bad results away from home.

Along with that the fact they lost Kompany, Tevez and Toure for chunks of the season was bad luck and there is no doubt that missing these lads at various times hindered the team.

All in all though the 2 derby games were prime examples of why City won the league. Talk all you want about Scholes and Giggs but they aren't up to it at the top top level anymore and United got over run in MF on too many occasions. A few signings in the summer could help but I think City will still be too strong for a year yet. The EPL trophy has found its rightful home today. City abu!

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Quote from: The Worker on May 13, 2012, 08:21:53 PM
I hope you're in good Kompany. I can imagine this is a difficult time for United fans. Don't take it to Hart. Yaya gotta keep your head up. It wont be De Jong before you're smiling again. Look for the Silva lining. It may sound a bit Clichy but you'll be okay.

Yaya we have heard all your taylor made windups before, when are ya Gunner stop? Don't Kidd around. Next you'll be telling them to build a Bridge and get over it. Your some Savic.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

From the Bunker

Quote from: EC Unique on April 15, 2012, 06:00:04 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 15, 2012, 04:40:24 PM
United are gonna win this league from bad decisions from refs and cheating from Young.
;D ;D ;D

Number 20 still looking good. League tables do not lie.

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