Pot 1 - Manchester United, Barcelona, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Porto, Inter Milan.
Pot 2 - Shakhtar Donetsk, Lyon, Villarreal, AC Milan, Valencia, Marseille, CSKA Moscow, Benfica.
Pot 3 - Zenit St Petersburg, Man City, Olympiakos, Ajax, Bayer Leverkusen, BATE Borisov, Basle, Lille.
Pot 4 - Borussia Dortmund, Trabzonspor, Dinamo Zagreb, Napoli, APOEL, Genk, Otelul Galati, Viktoria Plzen.
Where are Spurs?
Pot 4 - Borussia Dortmund, you could get a group of death with them involved.
Have to say that I was skeptical when this new format was introduced by UEFA a few years ago, but looking at those pots there are quite a few permutations which would allow multiple "groups of death", making it interesting for the neutral.
Watched Benfica tonight and they were absolute class. Aimar completely ran the show. They will be a hard team to play against. For the pure flair and technical ability of each team I would like to see this group:
Barcelona
Benfica
Ajax
Dortmund
:o Unreal
Barcelona
AC Milan
shity
Dortmund..... would be a dream group for me
Quote from: new devil on August 25, 2011, 08:06:31 AM
Barcelona
AC Milan
shity
Dortmund..... would be a dream group for me
Typical Man U fan, cares more about how rival clubs do than the club they claim to love! Surely your dream group should consist of Man United plus 3 other handy teams?
How about this for a horrible prospect for one of the pot 1 teams - Shaktar Donetsk, Zenit St Petersburg, Trabsonspor.
Yea thats a real nightmare Seanie....Shouldn't the actual champions of there countries be in pot 1..seems a weird way they have of doing it
Quote from: new devil on August 25, 2011, 08:06:31 AM
Barcelona
AC Milan
shity
Dortmund..... would be a dream group for me
Why? I reckon Manchester City would qualify from that group as runners up.
Dortmund and/or Ajax please....
Puyol was dressed for the beach i see as Melanie Winiger was eyeing him up.
I think Man U could send out their catering staff and win that group. Masters of the cushy draw.
Man City's group is a belter. Four good teams.
Was looking easy for Arsenal as well until they got the booby prize in pot 4, Dortmund.
United got a so called cushy draw in 05/06 & finished last.
Draw in full.
Group A: Bayern Munich, Villarreal, Man City, Napoli
Group B: Inter Milan, CSKA Moscow, Lille, Trabzonspor
Group C: Man United, Benfica, Basle, Otelul Galati
Group D: Real Madrid, Lyon, Ajax, Dinamo Zagreb
Group E: Chelsea, Valencia, Bayer Leverkusen, Genk
Group F: Arsenal, Marseille, Olympiakos, Borussia Dortmund
Group G: FC Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk, Zenit, Apoel FC
Group H: Barcelona, AC Milan, BATE Borisov, Viktoria Plzen
Must get the Benfica jersey out of the press and go online to find a Basel and Otelul Galati jersey.
I see Liverpool supporters on this thread (about a competition they couldn't qualify for) - what's that all about? I thought it was only United fans that were obsessed with the goings on of other clubs? :P
Maybe coz they are football fans you tit!
Does mean QPR fans are also not allowed post here?
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 25, 2011, 05:38:30 PM
I think Man U could send out their catering staff and win that group. Masters of the cushy draw.
Man City's group is a belter. Four good teams.
Was looking easy for Arsenal as well until they got the booby prize in pot 4, Dortmund.
Man City's group is very good,looking forward to watching them games.
Would like to see them progress in the tournament.
Another United fix.
Full fixture list
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/Draws/01/66/79/36/1667936_DOWNLOAD.pdf
Barcelona v AC Milan,Borussia Dortmund v Arsenal & Benfica v Man United all on match day one.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 25, 2011, 06:39:41 PM
Another United fix.
Platini must have had some bother fighting Howard Webb and Big Sam off Whiskey noses c**k!
Quote from: A.B.U on August 25, 2011, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 25, 2011, 06:39:41 PM
Another United fix.
Platini must have had some bother fighting Howard Webb and Big Sam off Whiskey noses c**k!
:D :D :D
Quote from: A.B.U on August 25, 2011, 06:01:04 PM
Maybe coz they are football fans you tit!
Does mean QPR fans are also not allowed post here?
QPR fans! Classic! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
How many teams have a realistic chance of winning this? 3 - Utd,Madrid and Barca?
Jury is out on AVB at Chelsea. City could be hard to beat if they get out of that group but SF at best.
Bayern have some good players but hard to see them win it and Italian football seems to be at a low ebb.
Benfica as dark horses to do well?
The only way Man Utd will win it is if someone else knocks out Barca
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 25, 2011, 06:39:41 PM
Another United fix.
Aye, United got up on stage and decided to pick what group they would like to be in. For goodness sake.
Quote from: A.B.U on August 26, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
The only way Man Utd will win it is if someone else knocks out Barca
Why focus on United? United are the second best team in Europe currently and sooner or later they will beat Barcelona in Europe again.
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 26, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 25, 2011, 06:39:41 PM
Another United fix.
Aye, United got up on stage and decided to pick what group they would like to be in. For goodness sake.
Quote from: A.B.U on August 26, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
The only way Man Utd will win it is if someone else knocks out Barca
Why focus on United? United are the second best team in Europe currently and sooner or later they will beat Barcelona in Europe again.
Is that based on them coming second last year? I'd rate Madrid ahead of them as well. Barca are deserving favorites, with Madrid not far behind. Anyone else will surely have to get past at least one of them in a knockout tie.
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 26, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 25, 2011, 06:39:41 PM
Another United fix.
Aye, United got up on stage and decided to pick what group they would like to be in. For goodness sake.
Quote from: A.B.U on August 26, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
The only way Man Utd will win it is if someone else knocks out Barca
Why focus on United? United are the second best team in Europe currently and sooner or later they will beat Barcelona in Europe again.
Im not focusing on United. The guy above me said the only teams that can win it are United,Madrid and Barca. So its my opinion that unless Barca are knocked out by someone else then United wont win it as I cant see them beating Barca. I could however see them beating Madrid.
No need to be getting your knickers in a twist about it.
Its a cup competition. The best team doesn't always win. Every few years someone wins it that no-one would have predicted at the start as Porto, Liverpool, Inter in the last 7/8 years demonstrate.
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 26, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 25, 2011, 06:39:41 PM
Another United fix.
Aye, United got up on stage and decided to pick what group they would like to be in. For goodness sake.
Quote from: A.B.U on August 26, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
The only way Man Utd will win it is if someone else knocks out Barca
Why focus on United? United are the second best team in Europe currently and sooner or later they will beat Barcelona in Europe again.
So are Schalke the 3rd or 4th best team?
You don't agree that united are the 2nd best team in Europe? After getting to 3 of the last 4 finals?
Just seen Ajax two goals and both onside. Commentator saying linesman better hope Lyon dont turn things round!
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 25, 2011, 05:38:30 PM
I think Man U could send out their catering staff and win that group. Masters of the cushy draw.
:D
Quote from: new devil on August 30, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
You don't agree that united are the 2nd best team in Europe? After getting to 3 of the last 4 finals?
No, no I don't.
This is from the Lyon-Zagreb game. Let the conspiracy theories begin ;)
(http://www.ajaxshowtime.com/uploads/news/1fec2ee27ed94937a42956baef17ee1d3c75753d.jpg)
Quote from: new devil on August 30, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
You don't agree that united are the 2nd best team in Europe? After getting to 3 of the last 4 finals?
No i dont actually.ask the basel fans they might give you a more accurate assesment
Quote from: new devil on August 30, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
You don't agree that united were the 2nd best team in Europe? After getting to 3 of the last 4 finals?
There, fixed that for ye. No problem, happy christmas.
Ajax on cusp of Champions League last 16 with 0-0 draw at Lyon
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The Ajax forward Miralem Sulejmani, centre, troubles Lyon's midfielder Cris, right, and their goalkeeper Hugo Lloris. Photograph: Philippe Merle/AFP/Getty Images
Ajax moved to the brink of qualification for the Champions League knockout stages with a 0-0 draw at Lyon on Tuesday.
Both sides wasted good chances to earn victory with Lyon going close late on when Yoann Gourcuff's shot shaved the post.
Ajax are second behind Real Madrid in Group D on eight points, three ahead of the French side going into the final round of matches. They have an identical head-to-head record but the Dutch side have a far superior goal difference.
Former European champions Ajax need only one point at home against Real to reach the last 16, while Lyon will look for a huge win at Dinamo Zagreb and hope Ajax lose.
"We were up against a good Ajax side, and it cost us a lot of energy just to dispossess them," the Lyon coach, Rémi Garde, told the French television channel TF1."We lacked sharpness in front of goal.
"I still believe we can go through but it will obviously be complicated." Lyon face the prospect of not making it through the group stage for the first time since the 2002-03 season.
Lyon began brightly with returning forward Lisandro López, making his first start in 12 weeks after an injury layoff, having his curling shot parried away by Kenneth Vermeer in the seventh minute.
Lyon could not build on their good start and the Ajax midfielder Christian Eriksen was a constant threat although the visitors failed to create clear-cut chances in a dull first half.
Ajax looked sharper after the restart and it took a timely save by Hugo Lloris to deny Miralem Sulejmani after he had been fed through by Eriksen. Sulejmani's deflected shot on the hour just cleared the crossbar before Lyon got going again after the Brazilian midfielder Ederson replaced Lisandro with 20 minutes left.
Ederson had a volley blocked by Vermeer as Lyon desperately pushed for the winner, and the seven-times French champions went close again when Michel Bastos's angled shot was tipped away by the Ajax keeper. Lyon had a penalty claim turned down with two minutes left when Ederson appeared to be brought down.
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Mark Clattenburg has emerged as the key figure in Uefa's investigations of Dinamo Zagreb's extraordinary 7-1 home defeat to Lyon in the Champions League on Wednesday night, amid an inquiry by the French online betting authority.
The French Autorité de Régulation des Jeux en Ligne (Arjel) said on Thursday that it was "currently carrying out checks" to establish if any suspicious betting took place around the match.
Uefa is waiting for the Premier League referee's report into the controversial match, during which his fellow Englishmen Mike Mullarkey and Peter Kirkup were running the lines. Lee Probert, another elite English referee, was fourth official and Kevin Friend and Andre Marriner were Clattenburg's by-line assistants.
The conclusions in Clattenburg's report will influence whether Uefa takes its inquiries into the events any further after the result permitted the French team to progress to the knockout phase of the competition at the expense of Ajax.
Dinamo had been down to 10 men after Clattenburg sent off Jerko Leko 28 minutes into the game. What made the result all the more remarkable was that at the end of normal time in the first half, the Croatian side had been 1-0 up.
Uefa's betting fraud detection system (BFDS), which monitors betting patterns in every match in its competitions, has been consulted for evidence of any irregular betting patterns around the match. However, Uefa indicated on Thursday afternoon that it had found no instances to justify an inquiry on betting grounds. "We look at every match automatically through the BFDS system then it becomes another matter if anything is found," said a spokeswoman for Uefa.
"We always also look at the reports from officials because they are briefed on any issues relating to match fixing. If there's anything suspicious – which is rare – it will be mentioned by them. But we are still waiting on those reports."
Lyon confirmed Arjel is undertaking inquiries in a statement on Thursday, in which it was said: "Olympique Lyonnais are aware of the checks being conducted this morning by Arjel, which are completely in tune with the procedures of the governing body for online betting.
"The club totally approves of this action that is undertaken whenever a sporting result is considered unusual and we regret that comments have not been confined to the sporting aspect of an incredible achievement both for Olympique Lyonnais and French football as a whole."
The Ajax coach, Frank de Boer, claimed Uefa should investigate the Lyon match, if it was suspected anything unusual had gone on. "If there was something unusual, Uefa should investigate what happened in Zagreb," De Boer was quoted as saying by ESPN Soccernet.
Bernard Lacombe, Lyon's sporting director, by contrast, gave a more emotional perspective on the inquiries. "It's total rubbish, people should stop saying such things," he said. "Did they open an investigation at half-time when it was 1-1? I don't give a damn what the Ajax manager says. Apparently we are also responsible for the refereeing of the match in Amsterdam."
Dinamo have parted company with their coach, Krunoslav Jurcic, since the match while also issuing angry denials of any wrongdoing in the game. "It is tendentious, outrageous and malicious to declare the recent Champions League match [between] Dinamo [and] Lyon in Maksimir suspicious," the club said. "Dinamo again strongly condemns all insinuations in the media, both foreign, and domestic, of favouring any results. If the insinuations in the media continue GNK Dinamo will take all legal measures to protect their rights."
Another Messi goal,
what can one say, one of his 'better' ones? ;D
Traps the ball with his studs while moving at speed, doesn't miss a forward step, one on one with the goalie and chips it over him into the net.
Quote from: Main Street on March 07, 2012, 08:17:32 PM
Another Messi goal,
what can one say, one of his 'better' ones? ;D
Traps the ball with his studs while moving at speed, doesn't miss a forward step, one on one with the goalie and chips it over him into the net.
third one even better , best player in the world by a street
Messi is only 24 :o, by the time he is finished he will easily be recognised as the best in the world ever
Quote from: randomtask on March 07, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
Messi is only 24 :o, by the time he is finished he will easily be recognised as the best in the world ever
Pele was only 17 in the 1958 World cup most will still recognise him as the best ever.
The champions league story of the night, Apoel Nicosia into last eight.
That barca team have to be the best footballing side ever.
to think people on here reckon english premiership teams could have beaten that team if there was different circumstances.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 10:24:27 PM
The champions league story of the night, Apoel Nicosia into last eight.
Total population of Cyprus is about a million.
Quote from: rossie mad on March 07, 2012, 10:59:06 PM
That barca team have to be the best footballing side ever.
Have you checked the La liga table lately?
What a treat it was to watch Barca tonight. Leo. Where do you begin. 3rd goal was the best--to knock it into hi path at such speed with his bad foot was difficult enough never mind the chip.
My god
Quote from: dec on March 07, 2012, 11:00:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 10:24:27 PM
The champions league story of the night, Apoel Nicosia into last eight.
Total population of Cyprus is about a million.
And to think under Stan Staunton we managed to get humiliated by Cyprus. Was in Nicosia around this time last year not alot in it apart from a big wall,stray cats & a Turkish border but fcuk me they will have some session tonight.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 11:05:31 PM
Quote from: rossie mad on March 07, 2012, 10:59:06 PM
That barca team have to be the best footballing side ever.
Have you checked the La liga table lately?
Please enlighten me who are a better footballing side or who have been a better footballing side?
In case you haven't noticed, the Captain appears to have a chip on his shoulder over Barca.
Quote from: rossie mad on March 07, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 11:05:31 PM
Quote from: rossie mad on March 07, 2012, 10:59:06 PM
That barca team have to be the best footballing side ever.
Have you checked the La liga table lately?
Please enlighten me who are a better footballing side or who have been a better footballing side?
Reading original quote it appears that the statement says the best team ever; not in la liga in the last few months, entiendos Captain OBLIVIOUS
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 11:05:31 PM
Quote from: rossie mad on March 07, 2012, 10:59:06 PM
That barca team have to be the best footballing side ever.
Have you checked the La liga table lately?
Footballing side is definitely not something you could accuse Real Madrid of being.
Effective at winning yes. Disgusting disgusting team illustrative of the type of bile Mourinho favours.
Football is about winning the League table doesn't lie and if it's winning with style Real Madrid also did that in the 50s,60s.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 11:36:48 PM
Football is about winning the League table doesn't lie and if it's winning with style Real Madrid also did that in the 50s,60s.
Haven't seen the 50'5 / 60's Real Madrid style on dvd, nor was I around for the live version. Could you please give the link to these 2 decades so I can view more than a second or two
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 11:36:48 PM
Football is about winning the League table doesn't lie and if it's winning with style Real Madrid also did that in the 50s,60s.
Real Madrid (de stefano & co ) did do it in style as did the famous hungarian team of the fifties (puskas),followed by many brazalian teams but my point is in this period of vast wealth in european soccer this team are the best footballing side to probably ever play the game.
Take into account alot of the current barca side are homegrown.
You menetion real madrid? what have real done to the current barca team in the last three years on the pitch (apart from butchering them).
Your league table argument carries as much weight as louis walshs opinion on jedward
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 11:36:48 PM
Football is about winning the League table doesn't lie and if it's winning with style Real Madrid also did that in the 50s,60s.
Say Real win the league but Barca win the CL, which is probably an odds on bet - what does that say?
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Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 11:36:48 PM
Football is about winning the League table doesn't lie and if it's winning with style Real Madrid also did that in the 50s,60s.
Say Real win the league but Barca win the CL, which is probably an odds on bet - what does that say?
One the best in Spain and the other the best in the Champions league.
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Real Madrid (de stefano & co ) did do it in style as did the famous hungarian team of the fifties (puskas),followed by many brazalian teams but my point is in this period of vast wealth in european soccer this team are the best footballing side to probably ever play the game.
After finally getting your point across your Captain can now sleep soundly.
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Quote from: gallsman on March 08, 2012, 12:18:37 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 11:36:48 PM
Football is about winning the League table doesn't lie and if it's winning with style Real Madrid also did that in the 50s,60s.
Say Real win the league but Barca win the CL, which is probably an odds on bet - what does that say?
One the best in Spain and the other the best in the Champions league.
Awful cop out there.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 08, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 08, 2012, 12:18:37 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2012, 11:36:48 PM
Football is about winning the League table doesn't lie and if it's winning with style Real Madrid also did that in the 50s,60s.
Say Real win the league but Barca win the CL, which is probably an odds on bet - what does that say?
One the best in Spain and the other the best in the Champions league.
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Real Madrid (de stefano & co ) did do it in style as did the famous hungarian team of the fifties (puskas),followed by many brazalian teams but my point is in this period of vast wealth in european soccer this team are the best footballing side to probably ever play the game.
After finally getting your point across your Captain can now sleep soundly.
Your OBVIOUSLY a tube.
:D :D Can`t beat a good bit of banter
Unreal performance from Barca tonight and especially Messi. To me, he is the greatest ever. Imo the Champions League is now the elite competition in football having taken over the World Cup so I don`t really buy into this "he hasn`t done anything in the world cup" pish. Time and time again he has ripped quality teams to pieces. 53 goals this season for club and country. He has a rest this summer too for the first time in a few years so he could be even better next season. Hopefully ;D
Was very impressed by Tello tonight as well. Very Pedro like and will have a big future ahead of him
The Basel adventure came to crashing halt tonight. I still say fair fcuks to them they qualified instead of under performing United & managed to beat Bayern at home, i hope that defeat tonight doesn't hit them to hard as they are a good footballing side/club but in truth after that result punching above their weight springs to mind. Are Bayern good enough to challenge Barca,Real now? they could have home advantage if they reach the final.
Inter knocked out early for the 2nd year in a row v opponent they were expected to beat, how they have fallen from the 2010 success.
Quote from: ross4life on March 13, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
The Basel adventure came to crashing halt tonight. I still say fair fcuks to them they qualified instead of under performing United & managed to beat Bayern at home, i hope that defeat tonight doesn't hit them to hard as they are a good footballing side/club but in truth after that result punching above their weight springs to mind. Are Bayern good enough to challenge Barca,Real now? they could have home advantage if they reach the final.
Inter knocked out early for the 2nd year in a row v opponent they were expected to beat, how they have fallen from the 2010 success.
That was some performance by Bayern. Everything went right for them. Will the Rossies ever reach that level in the fuball?
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Quote from: ross4life on March 13, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
The Basel adventure came to crashing halt tonight. I still say fair fcuks to them they qualified instead of under performing United & managed to beat Bayern at home, i hope that defeat tonight doesn't hit them to hard as they are a good footballing side/club but in truth after that result punching above their weight springs to mind. Are Bayern good enough to challenge Barca,Real now? they could have home advantage if they reach the final.
Inter knocked out early for the 2nd year in a row v opponent they were expected to beat, how they have fallen from the 2010 success.
That was some performance by Bayern. Everything went right for them. Will the Rossies ever reach that level in the fuball?
I take it you never called into late great Jimmy Murray for a chat?
Must. Keep. Thread......going.... all by.....myself.......
Who do you hope the pride of the Premier League get lads? ;D
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Must. Keep. Thread......going.... all by.....myself.......
Who do you hope the pride of the Premier League get lads? ;D
With John Terry in charge they should fear no-one, by all accounts he has a plan to beat Barca home and away.
7 different nations represented in the last 8! that must be the most for this stage of the competition for many years??
Edit; just seen on Sky Sports News it's the most since 96/97 season.
Chelsea V Benfica
AC Milan V Barcelona
Apoel Nicolsia V Real Madrid
Marseille V Bayern Munich
Chelsea or Benfica V AC Milan or Barcelona
Apoel Nicolsia or Real Madrid V Marseille or Bayern Munich
Madrid and Barca in the Final??
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Chelsea or Benfica V AC Milan or Barcelona
Apoel Nicolsia or Real Madrid V Marseille or Bayern Munich
Madrid and Barca in the Final??
That
was nicely fixed worked out nicely....
Quote from: GAA_Talk on March 16, 2012, 11:02:53 AM
Chelsea V Benfica
AC Milan V Barcelona
Apoel Nicolsia V Real Madrid
Marseille V Bayern Munich
Could have been worse
Quote from: AQMP on March 16, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on March 16, 2012, 11:02:53 AM
Chelsea V Benfica
AC Milan V Barcelona
Apoel Nicolsia V Real Madrid
Marseille V Bayern Munich
Could have been worse
Is the semi final draw done today as well
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 11:46:35 AM
Quote from: AQMP on March 16, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on March 16, 2012, 11:02:53 AM
Chelsea V Benfica
AC Milan V Barcelona
Apoel Nicolsia V Real Madrid
Marseille V Bayern Munich
Could have been worse
Is the semi final draw done today as well
Aye
Barce or Ac v Chelsea or Befinca
Apoel or Real v Marseille or Bayern.
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2012, 12:29:06 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 11:46:35 AM
Quote from: AQMP on March 16, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on March 16, 2012, 11:02:53 AM
Chelsea V Benfica
AC Milan V Barcelona
Apoel Nicolsia V Real Madrid
Marseille V Bayern Munich
Could have been worse
Is the semi final draw done today as well
Aye
Barce or Ac v Chelsea or Befinca
Apoel or Real v Marseille or Bayern.
Madrid v Barca final it is so.
Quote from: ross4life on March 13, 2012, 10:33:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 13, 2012, 10:16:40 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 13, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
The Basel adventure came to crashing halt tonight. I still say fair fcuks to them they qualified instead of under performing United & managed to beat Bayern at home, i hope that defeat tonight doesn't hit them to hard as they are a good footballing side/club but in truth after that result punching above their weight springs to mind. Are Bayern good enough to challenge Barca,Real now? they could have home advantage if they reach the final.
Inter knocked out early for the 2nd year in a row v opponent they were expected to beat, how they have fallen from the 2010 success.
That was some performance by Bayern. Everything went right for them. Will the Rossies ever reach that level in the fuball?
I take it you never called into late great Jimmy Murray for a chat?
The form "will" applies to the future . Is JM going to be reincarnated ?
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 12:35:15 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 16, 2012, 12:29:06 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 11:46:35 AM
Quote from: AQMP on March 16, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on March 16, 2012, 11:02:53 AM
Chelsea V Benfica
AC Milan V Barcelona
Apoel Nicolsia V Real Madrid
Marseille V Bayern Munich
Could have been worse
Is the semi final draw done today as well
Aye
Barce or Ac v Chelsea or Befinca
Apoel or Real v Marseille or Bayern.
Madrid v Barca final it is so.
Bayern would be in with a decent shout against Madrid IMO. Plus the motivation of a final on their home ground.
Madrid v barca with Madrid to win.
United couldve won this if fergie had wanted to ;D :o
Apoel got the worst possibly draw but they are probably delighted. Looks like el clasico CL final unless Bayern can upset the apple cart.
Quote from: ross4life on March 16, 2012, 04:15:34 PM
Apoel got the worst possibly draw but they are probably delighted. Looks like el clasico CL final unless Bayern can upset the apple cart.
Apple cart ?
Quote from: spuds on March 16, 2012, 05:18:30 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 16, 2012, 04:15:34 PM
Apoel got the worst possibly draw but they are probably delighted. Looks like el clasico CL final unless Bayern can upset the apple cart.
Apple cart ?
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Dream final still on so
Quote from: Declan on April 04, 2012, 09:59:27 AM
Dream final still on so
Chelsea could have a bit more to say about that if they can continue to show the form they have displayed so far this evening.
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 04, 2012, 09:06:18 PM
Quote from: Declan on April 04, 2012, 09:59:27 AM
Dream final still on so
Chelsea could have a bit more to say about that if they can continue to show the form they have displayed so far this evening.
I don't think Barca will necessarily have it all their own away, but not sure Chelsea have shown any form this evening to be honest. They've been playing against 10 men for over half the game and not created too many chances. Comparing the number of times they have given the ball away compared to the way Barcelona controlled things last night it would be one of the biggest upsets in a long time if they were to go through, particularly over two legs.
Quote from: CiKe on April 04, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 04, 2012, 09:06:18 PM
Quote from: Declan on April 04, 2012, 09:59:27 AM
Dream final still on so
Chelsea could have a bit more to say about that if they can continue to show the form they have displayed so far this evening.
I don't think Barca will necessarily have it all their own away, but not sure Chelsea have shown any form this evening to be honest. They've been playing against 10 men for over half the game and not created too many chances. Comparing the number of times they have given the ball away compared to the way Barcelona controlled things last night it would be one of the biggest upsets in a long time if they were to go through, particularly over two legs.
Now that you mention it. ::)
Barcelona will brush Chelsea aside. Real Madrid should win the other tie in Bernabeu.
Barca should win handy enough but stranger things have happened.
I think every neutral would want a Barca Madrid final but the chance for Munich to play the Final in their own backyard could spur them on to beat Madrid.
How would yo go about getting tickets for Chelsea Vs Barcelona in Stamford Bridge?
Is it even possible through official lines?
Through UEFA or the clubs?
Join the EDL, BNP or Combat 18.
We want to sit with the away fans please.
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on March 16, 2012, 02:42:04 PM
United couldve won this if fergie had wanted to ;D :o
lol
Hahahahahahahaha classic scouse type wit. Sure at the start of the season King Kenny was going to win all in front of him with the array of talent he had amassed . He was going to qualify for the Champions League in style. Clampits League more like.
Quote from: thejuice on April 04, 2012, 09:47:42 PM
How would yo go about getting tickets for Chelsea Vs Barcelona in Stamford Bridge?
Is it even possible through official lines?
Through UEFA or the clubs?
If you know anyone called Tarquin who works in the city you could be In with a shout.
I would say a lot will come out of the woodwork for this one . Cash is king!
Quote from: CiKe on April 04, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 04, 2012, 09:06:18 PM
Quote from: Declan on April 04, 2012, 09:59:27 AM
Dream final still on so
Chelsea could have a bit more to say about that if they can continue to show the form they have displayed so far this evening.
I don't think Barca will necessarily have it all their own away, but not sure Chelsea have shown any form this evening to be honest. They've been playing against 10 men for over half the game and not created too many chances. Comparing the number of times they have given the ball away compared to the way Barcelona controlled things last night it would be one of the biggest upsets in a long time if they were to go through, particularly over two legs.
I agree
Quote from: norabeag on April 04, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on March 16, 2012, 02:42:04 PM
United couldve won this if fergie had wanted to ;D :o
lol
Hahahahahahahaha classic scouse type wit. Sure at the start of the season King Kenny was going to win all in front of him with the array of talent he had amassed . He was going to qualify for the Champions League in style. Clampits League more like.
Sure, they have the Carling Cup. Who cares about everything else.
Quote from: norabeag on April 04, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on March 16, 2012, 02:42:04 PM
United couldve won this if fergie had wanted to ;D :o
lol
Hahahahahahahaha classic scouse type wit. Sure at the start of the season King Kenny was going to win all in front of him with the array of talent he had amassed . He was going to qualify for the Champions League in style. Clampits League more like.
Classic Scouse wit?
First off I'm from Tipp not Liverpool and second I don't actually support Liverpool or any club for that matter so the joke is on you mate.
Btw as a matter of interest why are so many Utd fans on here obsessed with Liverpool?
Quote from: Gazzler on April 04, 2012, 10:47:48 PM
Quote from: norabeag on April 04, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on March 16, 2012, 02:42:04 PM
United couldve won this if fergie had wanted to ;D :o
lol
Hahahahahahahaha classic scouse type wit. Sure at the start of the season King Kenny was going to win all in front of him with the array of talent he had amassed . He was going to qualify for the Champions League in style. Clampits League more like.
Classic Scouse wit?
First off I'm from Tipp not Liverpool and second I don't actually support Liverpool or any club for that matter so the joke is on you mate.
Btw as a matter of interest why are so many Utd fans on here obsessed with Liverpool?
Cant read son? dont see where it says Scouse wit. I dont support UTD , just cant stand Liverpool and it never ceases to amaze me how obsesssed their fans on here are with Man Utd's success. Just look at the UTD thread and see how many "Liverpool fans" are forever giving their tuppence worth.
Quote from: norabeag on April 04, 2012, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 04, 2012, 10:47:48 PM
Quote from: norabeag on April 04, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on March 16, 2012, 02:42:04 PM
United couldve won this if fergie had wanted to ;D :o
lol
Hahahahahahahaha classic scouse type wit. Sure at the start of the season King Kenny was going to win all in front of him with the array of talent he had amassed . He was going to qualify for the Champions League in style. Clampits League more like.
Classic Scouse wit?
First off I'm from Tipp not Liverpool and second I don't actually support Liverpool or any club for that matter so the joke is on you mate.
Btw as a matter of interest why are so many Utd fans on here obsessed with Liverpool?
Cant read son? dont see where it says Scouse wit. I dont support UTD , just cant stand Liverpool and it never ceases to amaze me how obsesssed their fans on here are with Man Utd's success. Just look at the UTD thread and see how many "Liverpool fans" are forever giving their tuppence worth.
In fairness the Liverpool thread is overrun with Man Utd fans and there does seem to be a little obession there from a few of the United fans towards Liverpool,it's far less a issue on the Man U thread with Liverpool fans IMO and I'm a United fan.
Anyways on the topic of this thread, I would like to see Chelsea qualify for final but I find it hard to see how they will cope with Barca. I actually think B Munich could upset the hopes of the dream final and beat Madrid.
Quote from: Jonah on April 04, 2012, 11:26:59 PM
Quote from: norabeag on April 04, 2012, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 04, 2012, 10:47:48 PM
Quote from: norabeag on April 04, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on March 16, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on March 16, 2012, 02:42:04 PM
United couldve won this if fergie had wanted to ;D :o
lol
Hahahahahahahaha classic scouse type wit. Sure at the start of the season King Kenny was going to win all in front of him with the array of talent he had amassed . He was going to qualify for the Champions League in style. Clampits League more like.
Classic Scouse wit?
First off I'm from Tipp not Liverpool and second I don't actually support Liverpool or any club for that matter so the joke is on you mate.
Btw as a matter of interest why are so many Utd fans on here obsessed with Liverpool?
Cant read son? dont see where it says Scouse wit. I dont support UTD , just cant stand Liverpool and it never ceases to amaze me how obsesssed their fans on here are with Man Utd's success. Just look at the UTD thread and see how many "Liverpool fans" are forever giving their tuppence worth.
In fairness the Liverpool thread is overrun with Man Utd fans and there does seem to be a little obession there from a few of the United fans towards Liverpool,it's far less a issue on the Man U thread with Liverpool fans IMO and I'm a United fan.
Anyways on the topic of this thread, I would like to see Chelsea qualify for final but I find it hard to see how they will cope with Barca. I actually think B Munich could upset the hopes of the dream final and beat Madrid.
Liverpool are going through a bad patch and Utd fans are enjoying it. Check out the utd thread last year when they lost the CL final or when City thumped us in OT and you will see the role reversal. Some boys can give it but can't take it. I am even getting hate mail in my PMs. Love it. ;D
I thought this thread was about teams in the Champions League ;)
How can I say this...Chelsea haven't a sweat against Barca. It may be close-ish at Stamford Bridge but it wouldn't surprise me if Barca score 4 or 5 in the Camp Nou. The thing about Barca is if you look past the tiki-taka they actually press quite hard when they don't have the ball and Chelsea haven't played well against "pressing" teams this season.
Bayern Munich v Real Madrid tonight should be a good one. Bayern will probably need to win tonight if they want to reach the final.
At 17/2 had a few euros on Bayern to win 2-1 :) that win should make for interesting 2nd leg but Madrid still favourites to progress.
Cracking game Ross, thought there may have been another one in it for Bayern there at some stage. Long time since Ronaldo has been as quiet in a game. Howard Webb had another shocker.
Dunno what to make of Barca-Chelsea. Certainly think Barca will still go though over two legs. Chelsea don't have the players to frustrate them the way they did three years ago. No Ballack, Lampard's legs are gone, Essien is a shadow of his former self. Drogba could still cause problems though and Torres (snigger) has a good record against them.
Should be a great 2nd leg. Madrid have a lot of players on yellow cards from tonight, if they get through they could be short a few men for the final.
Would like to see Chelsea do well. Maybe show that the PL is not so bad after all. De-Mateo seems a likable sort as well.
Barcelona can be beaten on the road if Arsenal can defeated them so can Chelsea but like last season Barcelona will win this tie in the Camp Nou.
PL hasn't been the best in Europe since 2008 but it's still one of the best. This year was under performing year for the best sides in england while Chelsea have somewhat over performed.
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2012, 06:21:49 PM
Barcelona can be beaten on the road if Arsenal can defeated them so can Chelsea but like last season Barcelona will win this tie in the Camp Nou.
PL hasn't been the best in Europe since 2008 but it's still one of the best. This year was under performing year for the best sides in england while Chelsea have somewhat over performed.
Whilst I would agree with that statement I think Chelsea have a point to prove to Barca. Whether they are good/strong enough remains to be seen. I must admit I am looking forward to it & although I'm a Barca admirer I have to say for this game I'll be shouting for Chelsea. On another note is anyone on here watching it on ITV? That Chiles is one sickening dickhead.
Only a matter of time before Barcelona take the lead or will Chelsea score against the run of play?
Drogba is such a p***k.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 18, 2012, 08:24:28 PM
Drogba is such a p***k.
"Two minutes of Drogba time to add on". ;D
Good goal to be fair.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 18, 2012, 08:22:11 PM
Only a matter of time before Barcelona take the lead or will Chelsea score against the run of play?
Yes
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 18, 2012, 08:22:11 PM
Only a matter of time before Barcelona take the lead or will Chelsea score against the run of play?
Chelsea and great time to score a goal.
Drogba 30% class, 70% complete bastard
Be a miracle if barca don't score. The way they can create chances is magistical. Hope they don't though.
Would someone like David Villa have missed the chances the Sanchez has?
Quote from: EC Unique on April 18, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
Be a miracle if barca don't score. The way they can create chances is magistical. Hope they don't though.
Come again?
Drogba for all his histrionics was probably MOM, Ashley Cole in with a good shout as well.
Fine result by Chelsea got a bit of luck but Di Matteo got his tactics spot on. Makes for two interesting 2nd leg semi finals now. Bad couple of nights for the La-Liga top two but the wise money would still be on el clasico CL final.
Fat Frank will sleep tonight!
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2012, 09:37:58 PM
Fine result by Chelsea got a bit of luck but Di Matteo got his tactics spot on. Makes for two interesting 2nd leg semi finals now. Bad couple of nights for the La-Liga top two but the wise money would still be on el clasico CL final.
On the money, but at least we should get a couple of good games for the 2nd legs.
Brilliant controlled and organised display from Chelsea. Rode their luck at times as on another night Barca could have had three or four. Not conceding the away goal gives them a huge opportunity in Spain - do they play for the away goal and end the tie or try and protect a single goal lead?
Not sure you can say Di Matteo got his tactics spot on, Barcelona carved them open at will and only for poor finishing would have scored 4 or 5.
Nothing got to do with tactics in my opinion.
Barca could have had 6, just a bad night of finishing by them and nothing to do with Chelsea tactics.
Quote from: gallsman on April 18, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
Brilliant controlled and organised display from Chelsea. Rode their luck at times as on another night Barca could have had three or four. Not conceding the away goal gives them a huge opportunity in Spain - do they play for the away goal and end the tie or try and protect a single goal lead?
They have to try and score because Barca will score. Well done to them though.
Chelsea played to their strengths, backs to the wall throwing themselves in front of everything, when you show that level of commitment you've always got a chance especially with a home crowd behind you. Chelsea did indeed ride their luck tonight and will need even more in the Nou Camp but for tonight they got their tactics right. WTF else could they have done.
Well done chelski. In with a chance but still fancy barca. Serious luck with barca hitting woodwork and wayward shooting. Hope they make the final.
True. Barca could have scored 4.
They say Cesc was below par but what about his scooped ball for Sanchez? If sanchez scored they wudda been praising Cesc as amazing
Well set up for next week but cannot see Barca scoring less than 3. Chelsea need to score at least 2 i'd say
Have to tip my hat to Drogba- how he played on with a pulled hamstring, torn groin and broken rib is beyond me. Remarkable strength
chelsea remind me of liverpool in 2005 - luck is hanging out of them and it seems their name is on the cup.
chelsea will score at the nou camp meaning barcelona will need at least 3. there's no doubt barcelona will create plenty of chances but i think the chelsea goal will lead a charmed life again.
Surprised that a premiership team that is nearly 30 points behind the league leaders can beat the Spanish Champions. Doesn't say much for the quality of the Spanish League.
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2012, 09:40:55 AM
Surprised that a premiership team that is nearly 30 points behind the league leaders can beat the Spanish Champions. Doesn't say much for the quality of the Spanish League.
Maybe you should wait till the second leg is over before getting carried away...
Quote from: Gazzler on April 19, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2012, 09:40:55 AM
Surprised that a premiership team that is nearly 30 points behind the league leaders can beat the Spanish Champions. Doesn't say much for the quality of the Spanish League.
Maybe you should wait till the second leg is over before getting carried away...
Surprising that a team, Athletic Bilbao, 40 points behind the league leaders in Spain can beat a team that is 30 points ahead of Chelsea.
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2012, 09:47:26 AM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 19, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2012, 09:40:55 AM
Surprised that a premiership team that is nearly 30 points behind the league leaders can beat the Spanish Champions. Doesn't say much for the quality of the Spanish League.
Maybe you should wait till the second leg is over before getting carried away...
Surprising that a team, Athletic Bilbao, 40 points behind the league leaders in Spain can beat a team that is 30 points ahead of Chelsea.
Excellent rebuttle sir :D
Quote from: clarshack on April 19, 2012, 09:21:38 AM
chelsea remind me of liverpool in 2005 - luck is hanging out of them and it seems their name is on the cup.
chelsea will score at the nou camp meaning barcelona will need at least 3. there's no doubt barcelona will create plenty of chances but i think the chelsea goal will lead a charmed life again.
There name is on it.
Lucky yes but worked very hard at the same time to put Barca off their game.
Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 19, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Actually Lampard tackled Messi and won the ball off him, no lucky break, good play by Lampard. His pass to Ramires was brilliant and was missed in the hoo haa over the goal. In case you didn't hear, there's a new rule in soccer...you get nothing for hitting the bar or post...it's the back of the net you've got to hit. Barca didn't miss six goals, I can't see how Barca's poor finishing is somehow Chelsea's fault?
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2012, 09:47:26 AM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 19, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2012, 09:40:55 AM
Surprised that a premiership team that is nearly 30 points behind the league leaders can beat the Spanish Champions. Doesn't say much for the quality of the Spanish League.
Maybe you should wait till the second leg is over before getting carried away...
Surprising that a team, Athletic Bilbao, 40 points behind the league leaders in Spain can beat a team that is 30 points ahead of Chelsea.
My point exactly. A lot was being made of the points difference between Bilbao and the top team in Spain to try and make Uniteds loss to them seem worse than it was yet there are teams at the bottom of the premier league or any league that still beat the big teams, as there are teams from divisions below that win cup games against the top teams or unfortunately lose out in the lottery that is a penalty shoot-out.
Quote from: AQMP on April 19, 2012, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 19, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Actually Lampard tackled Messi and won the ball off him, no lucky break, good play by Lampard. His pass to Ramires was brilliant and was missed in the hoo haa over the goal. In case you didn't hear, there's a new rule in soccer...you get nothing for hitting the bar or post...it's the back of the net you've got to hit. Barca didn't miss six goals, I can't see how Barca's poor finishing is somehow Chelsea's fault?
Thank fcuk you understand the game. Flair, technique, style, panache whatever you want to call it is not enough on it's own to win a game. Hard work, stamina and determination have a lot going for them as well, if you add in no little skill and a big slice of luck you have a pretty potent mix. Btw in what sport does the best team (in your opinion) always win?
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2012, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2012, 09:47:26 AM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 19, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2012, 09:40:55 AM
Surprised that a premiership team that is nearly 30 points behind the league leaders can beat the Spanish Champions. Doesn't say much for the quality of the Spanish League.
Maybe you should wait till the second leg is over before getting carried away...
Surprising that a team, Athletic Bilbao, 40 points behind the league leaders in Spain can beat a team that is 30 points ahead of Chelsea.
My point exactly. A lot was being made of the points difference between Bilbao and the top team in Spain to try and make Uniteds loss to them seem worse than it was yet there are teams at the bottom of the premier league or any league that still beat the big teams, as there are teams from divisions below that win cup games against the top teams or unfortunately lose out in the lottery that is a penalty shoot-out.
United were hockeyed out of it for 180 minutes. Chelsea were dominated for the majority of 90 mins and got the win thanks to Barca's wastefulness. On balance, I'd say the three games are a bigger indictment of the Premiership than La Liga. Of the eight semi-finalists in European competition this year, five are from La Liga.
But that doesn't matter, United and City didn't really want to win the Europa League.
Quote from: gallsman on April 19, 2012, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2012, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2012, 09:47:26 AM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 19, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2012, 09:40:55 AM
Surprised that a premiership team that is nearly 30 points behind the league leaders can beat the Spanish Champions. Doesn't say much for the quality of the Spanish League.
Maybe you should wait till the second leg is over before getting carried away...
Surprising that a team, Athletic Bilbao, 40 points behind the league leaders in Spain can beat a team that is 30 points ahead of Chelsea.
My point exactly. A lot was being made of the points difference between Bilbao and the top team in Spain to try and make Uniteds loss to them seem worse than it was yet there are teams at the bottom of the premier league or any league that still beat the big teams, as there are teams from divisions below that win cup games against the top teams or unfortunately lose out in the lottery that is a penalty shoot-out.
United were hockeyed out of it for 180 minutes. Chelsea were dominated for the majority of 90 mins and got the win thanks to Barca's wastefulness. On balance, I'd say the three games are a bigger indictment of the Premiership than La Liga. Of the eight semi-finalists in European competition this year, five are from La Liga.
But that doesn't matter, United and City didn't really want to win the Europa League.
Improvement on last years three.
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 19, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 19, 2012, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 19, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Actually Lampard tackled Messi and won the ball off him, no lucky break, good play by Lampard. His pass to Ramires was brilliant and was missed in the hoo haa over the goal. In case you didn't hear, there's a new rule in soccer...you get nothing for hitting the bar or post...it's the back of the net you've got to hit. Barca didn't miss six goals, I can't see how Barca's poor finishing is somehow Chelsea's fault?
Thank fcuk you understand the game. Flair, technique, style, panache whatever you want to call it is not enough on it's own to win a game. Hard work, stamina and determination have a lot going for them as well, if you add in no little skill and a big slice of luck you have a pretty potent mix. Btw in what sport does the best team (in your opinion) always win?
Huh? No team in world soccer work as hard as Barca. The premier league has been shown up for what it is.
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 20, 2012, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 19, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 19, 2012, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 19, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Actually Lampard tackled Messi and won the ball off him, no lucky break, good play by Lampard. His pass to Ramires was brilliant and was missed in the hoo haa over the goal. In case you didn't hear, there's a new rule in soccer...you get nothing for hitting the bar or post...it's the back of the net you've got to hit. Barca didn't miss six goals, I can't see how Barca's poor finishing is somehow Chelsea's fault?
Thank fcuk you understand the game. Flair, technique, style, panache whatever you want to call it is not enough on it's own to win a game. Hard work, stamina and determination have a lot going for them as well, if you add in no little skill and a big slice of luck you have a pretty potent mix. Btw in what sport does the best team (in your opinion) always win?
Huh? No team in world soccer work as hard as Barca. The premier league has been shown up for what it is.
Where in that post did I say that Barca didn't work hard? Where in that post did I praise the Premier League? Why don't you answer the question you were asked?
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 20, 2012, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 20, 2012, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 19, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 19, 2012, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 19, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Actually Lampard tackled Messi and won the ball off him, no lucky break, good play by Lampard. His pass to Ramires was brilliant and was missed in the hoo haa over the goal. In case you didn't hear, there's a new rule in soccer...you get nothing for hitting the bar or post...it's the back of the net you've got to hit. Barca didn't miss six goals, I can't see how Barca's poor finishing is somehow Chelsea's fault?
Thank fcuk you understand the game. Flair, technique, style, panache whatever you want to call it is not enough on it's own to win a game. Hard work, stamina and determination have a lot going for them as well, if you add in no little skill and a big slice of luck you have a pretty potent mix. Btw in what sport does the best team (in your opinion) always win?
Huh? No team in world soccer work as hard as Barca. The premier league has been shown up for what it is.
Where in that post did I say that Barca didn't work hard? Where in that post did I praise the Premier League? Why don't you answer the question you were asked?
In hurling and football a team with 70% possession in the attacking third will always win.
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 20, 2012, 12:25:33 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 20, 2012, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 20, 2012, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 19, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 19, 2012, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 19, 2012, 10:34:54 AM
Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Actually Lampard tackled Messi and won the ball off him, no lucky break, good play by Lampard. His pass to Ramires was brilliant and was missed in the hoo haa over the goal. In case you didn't hear, there's a new rule in soccer...you get nothing for hitting the bar or post...it's the back of the net you've got to hit. Barca didn't miss six goals, I can't see how Barca's poor finishing is somehow Chelsea's fault?
Thank fcuk you understand the game. Flair, technique, style, panache whatever you want to call it is not enough on it's own to win a game. Hard work, stamina and determination have a lot going for them as well, if you add in no little skill and a big slice of luck you have a pretty potent mix. Btw in what sport does the best team (in your opinion) always win?
Huh? No team in world soccer work as hard as Barca. The premier league has been shown up for what it is.
Where in that post did I say that Barca didn't work hard? Where in that post did I praise the Premier League? Why don't you answer the question you were asked?
In hurling and football a team with 70% possession in the attacking third will always win.
Ah, so you have changed now from the "best team" to a team that has the most "possession" in a certain area of the field always wins. In football and hurling you may be right but that is not the game you were watching. Btw if you hate soccer so much why do you watch it?
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Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Actually Lampard tackled Messi and won the ball off him, no lucky break, good play by Lampard. His pass to Ramires was brilliant and was missed in the hoo haa over the goal. In case you didn't hear, there's a new rule in soccer...you get nothing for hitting the bar or post...it's the back of the net you've got to hit. Barca didn't miss six goals, I can't see how Barca's poor finishing is somehow Chelsea's fault?
Thank fcuk you understand the game. Flair, technique, style, panache whatever you want to call it is not enough on it's own to win a game. Hard work, stamina and determination have a lot going for them as well, if you add in no little skill and a big slice of luck you have a pretty potent mix. Btw in what sport does the best team (in your opinion) always win?
Huh? No team in world soccer work as hard as Barca. The premier league has been shown up for what it is.
Where in that post did I say that Barca didn't work hard? Where in that post did I praise the Premier League? Why don't you answer the question you were asked?
In hurling and football a team with 70% possession in the attacking third will always win.
Ah, so you have changed now from the "best team" to a team that has the most "possession" in a certain area of the field always wins. In football and hurling you may be right but that is not the game you were watching. Btw if you hate soccer so much why do you watch it?
No I haven't changed as the best team invariably has the most of the possession and you need possession to score. where did I say I hated soccer? I just dislike the fact that sometimes such as Wednesday the best team doesn't always come out on top...but that's the game. unless you believe That Chelsea were better than Barca?
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Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Actually Lampard tackled Messi and won the ball off him, no lucky break, good play by Lampard. His pass to Ramires was brilliant and was missed in the hoo haa over the goal. In case you didn't hear, there's a new rule in soccer...you get nothing for hitting the bar or post...it's the back of the net you've got to hit. Barca didn't miss six goals, I can't see how Barca's poor finishing is somehow Chelsea's fault?
Thank fcuk you understand the game. Flair, technique, style, panache whatever you want to call it is not enough on it's own to win a game. Hard work, stamina and determination have a lot going for them as well, if you add in no little skill and a big slice of luck you have a pretty potent mix. Btw in what sport does the best team (in your opinion) always win?
Huh? No team in world soccer work as hard as Barca. The premier league has been shown up for what it is.
Where in that post did I say that Barca didn't work hard? Where in that post did I praise the Premier League? Why don't you answer the question you were asked?
In hurling and football a team with 70% possession in the attacking third will always win.
Ah, so you have changed now from the "best team" to a team that has the most "possession" in a certain area of the field always wins. In football and hurling you may be right but that is not the game you were watching. Btw if you hate soccer so much why do you watch it?
No I haven't changed as the best team invariably has the most of the possession and you need possession to score. where did I say I hated soccer? I just dislike the fact that sometimes such as Wednesday the best team doesn't always come out on top...but that's the game. unless you believe That Chelsea were better than Barca?
There you go!!Btw I don't for one minute think Chelsea are a better team than Barca. I suppose what I am trying to say is if you go out on the pitch expecting to lose if Barca beat you in the possession stakes then you are going to get beat.Chelsea to their credit went out stuck to their task and imo got their just reward. I don't think Chelsea or any other team worth their salt will give a flying fcuk about your opinion that possession should always win games, the fact is Chelsea won that one.
I do expect Barca to go through,but I don't expect Chelsea will be thinking this way. :o
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Don't see where all this Chelsea adoration is coming from. they got a lucky break for their own goal when Messi gave the ball away and then Mascherano slipped to allow in Drogba, they also lucked out for the six missed goals Barca had. can't see them being as lucky next week...but you never know. It's what I hate about soccer the best team doesn't always win.
Actually Lampard tackled Messi and won the ball off him, no lucky break, good play by Lampard. His pass to Ramires was brilliant and was missed in the hoo haa over the goal. In case you didn't hear, there's a new rule in soccer...you get nothing for hitting the bar or post...it's the back of the net you've got to hit. Barca didn't miss six goals, I can't see how Barca's poor finishing is somehow Chelsea's fault?
Thank fcuk you understand the game. Flair, technique, style, panache whatever you want to call it is not enough on it's own to win a game. Hard work, stamina and determination have a lot going for them as well, if you add in no little skill and a big slice of luck you have a pretty potent mix. Btw in what sport does the best team (in your opinion) always win?
Huh? No team in world soccer work as hard as Barca. The premier league has been shown up for what it is.
Where in that post did I say that Barca didn't work hard? Where in that post did I praise the Premier League? Why don't you answer the question you were asked?
In hurling and football a team with 70% possession in the attacking third will always win.
Ah, so you have changed now from the "best team" to a team that has the most "possession" in a certain area of the field always wins. In football and hurling you may be right but that is not the game you were watching. Btw if you hate soccer so much why do you watch it?
No I haven't changed as the best team invariably has the most of the possession and you need possession to score. where did I say I hated soccer? I just dislike the fact that sometimes such as Wednesday the best team doesn't always come out on top...but that's the game. unless you believe That Chelsea were better than Barca?
There you go!!Btw I don't for one minute think Chelsea are a better team than Barca. I suppose what I am trying to say is if you go out on the pitch expecting to lose if Barca beat you in the possession stakes then you are going to get beat.Chelsea to their credit went out stuck to their task and imo got their just reward. I don't think Chelsea or any other team worth their salt will give a flying fcuk about your opinion that possession should always win games, the fact is Chelsea won that one.
I do expect Barca to go through,but I don't expect Chelsea will be thinking this way. :o
I'd be somewhat surprised if Chelsea even read this board let alone care for my opinions! ;)
It's been a while since Barca finished back to back games without scoring last Saturday it took them 70mins to produce a shot on target. The Chelsea game is set up great for the neutrals now & goal for the blues would make it even more interesting. In the other semi final Real Madrid are on high after that Camp Nou win & i expect them to progress to their first CL final for 10 years.
Quote from: ross4life on April 23, 2012, 04:17:55 PM
It's been a while since Barca finished back to back games without scoring last Saturday it took them 70mins to produce a shot on target. The Chelsea game is set up great for the neutrals now & goal for the blues would make it even more interesting. In the other semi final Real Madrid are on high after that Camp Nou win & i expect them to progress to their first CL final for 10 years.
But that shot went in...
The fact they scored 2 mins after bringing on a striker was no coincidence.
Alexis has to start tomorrow as he gives them an outlet up top which they lacked
for most of the Madrid match. Pedro has to come in also as he will stick to the wings
and stretch the Chelsea back 4.
It has the makings of a facinating contest and I would give Chelsea a huge chance
of getting through. They will need drogba to stay on his feet thought as the Barca fans will
put the ref under massive pressure if he starts his playacting again.
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It's been a while since Barca finished back to back games without scoring last Saturday it took them 70mins to produce a shot on target. The Chelsea game is set up great for the neutrals now & goal for the blues would make it even more interesting. In the other semi final Real Madrid are on high after that Camp Nou win & i expect them to progress to their first CL final for 10 years.
But that shot went in...
Admittedly i made a balls of that. It should have read been a while since back to back to defeats & went 70mins without a shot on target last sat. Not sure about Alexis he seemed to miss all the chances vs Chelsea last week maybe he'll have better luck this time?
Xavi is the man that makes Barca tick and at the minute he seems really tired. He has been taken off the past 3 games and Barca don't really seem to have a plan B.
Heard on the radio this morning that Messi injured himself (over streched groin) in Chelsea game, played on and them played with it on Saturday! Has not trained since.
I don't be on here much now since I left school ;D, but I see Senes Erzik who appoints referees to CL's games has handed a first ever CL knockout game to his fellow Turk Cuneyt Cakir!
Senes Erzik former employees, and who he still works for at times, is UNICEF. Just an observation!
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I don't be on here much now since I left school ;D, but I see Senes Erzik who appoints referees to CL's games has handed a first ever CL knockout game to his fellow Turk Cuneyt Cakir!
Senes Erzik former employees, and who he still works for at times, is UNICEF. Just an observation!
Getting ready for tomorrow, is it? :P
Another bad miss from Barca - Messi ( whose misplaced more passes in the last two games than I've seen him do all year)
And another sitter missed by Messi
Quote from: Declan on April 24, 2012, 08:06:31 PM
And another sitter missed by Messi
hes sh1t. sell him.
are they ever gonna score?
Quoteare they ever gonna score?
Not if Chelsea defend the middle properly - Let them have it out wide cos they won't score from a cross.
Chelsea comfortable so far
Alves did well there - 1 all(Busquets)
Terry gone - stupid eejit
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Quoteare they ever gonna score?
Not if Chelsea defend the middle properly - Let them have it out wide cos they won't score from a cross.
Chelsea comfortable so far
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Seems our John won't make the final!!
10 men without your main defenders would have to fear for Chelsea now.
Deserved sending off. Just as well the player wasn't black...
2-0 Barcelona should win this by how much they want now.
What was JT thinking about ?
Some finish !
Some goal by Chelsea - game on
2-1 fine finish in fairness.
What a finish !!!
Cracking last 20 mins..
EBJT what an eejit...
What a second half in store. Even if Barca score, they'll be nervous.
This is like the Arsenal game last year when RVP got the line.
Danny Mills at the Nou Camp on BBC Radio 5 live, BBC Radio 5 live
On John Terry's red card: "It is a soft sending off but he's tried a bit of intimidation and raised his knee to let him know he is around. It is old fashioned centre-half play. I think it's maybe a booking but I can see why the officials have given it."
lol
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I don't be on here much now since I left school ;D, but I see Senes Erzik who appoints referees to CL's games has handed a first ever CL knockout game to his fellow Turk Cuneyt Cakir!
Senes Erzik former employees, and who he still works for at times, is UNICEF. Just an observation!
Yeah but I heard the 4th official owns a Samsung mobile phone so that evens it all out.
Of course it was a red card FFS. Smashing Chelsea goal.
Should be an interesting 2nd half. Really hope Chelsea get through, lol at JT.
As it stands Chelsea are going through to the final but they will need to score again as it's unlikely they will Keep Barca out in 2nd half with that makeshift back line.
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As it stands Chelsea are going through to the final but they will need to score again as it's unlikely they will Keep Barca out in 2nd half with that makeshift back line.
It has to be said you have a great grasp of the obvious.
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As it stands Chelsea are going through to the final but they will need to score again as it's unlikely they will Keep Barca out in 2nd half with that makeshift back line.
It has to be said you have a great grasp of the obvious.
Thanks Captain.
Watching the replays what the f**k was he at. Stupid, stupid cnut. If I were a Chelsea fan/player I would be raging with him. Must have been a total rush of blood but he is a hateful heure so lol at him.
It would almost be nice to see Chelsea qualify just so EBJT will miss it...
Will Messi miss it?
All done now!! Or not
Andy Moran giving an interview on Newstalk about getting the Mayo captaincy while watching (and talking about) the CL match at the same time!
Fcking hell, Messi ;D
QuoteWill Messi miss it?
Yes !!! Unreal
Messi hitting the woodwork must have thought we was playing for Liverpool?
Is it wrong that I hope Chelsea win??
Lawro was trying to defend Terry when it just happened, then blamed the fella for making a meal of it!!! Terry is a thug, can't wait to hear his excuse for this one. England Captain??
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Messi hitting the woodwork must have thought we was playing for Liverpool?
Messi has now missed 8 of the 33 penalties he has taken for Barcelona
Definitely Liverpool standard.
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Lawro was trying to defend Terry when it just happened, then blamed the fella for making a meal of it!!! Terry is a thug, can't wait to hear his excuse for this one. England Captain??
He says yer man checked his run so he had no choice but run into him. :D
I don't think even his mother would believe that one!
Think Chelsea will hang on
If he didn't go to the Euros, could he get into the Olympic squad?
The review of this on RTE2 tomorrow should be good especially if Chelsea get through.
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The review of this on RTE2 tomorrow should be good especially if Chelsea get through.
Why
I know Drogba is a bollocks but he's put a fair shift in tonight. Don't think ive ever seen him work so hard!
Messi booked and definitely going through a bad patch. Lampard did Fabregas there should have been a red
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 24, 2012, 09:15:23 PM
I know Drogba is a bollocks but he's put a fair shift in tonight. Don't think ive ever seen him work so hard!
He had a lie-down for himself for a couple of mins as well though.
Barca make Arsenal look trigger-happy.
The lines man at valdes's end may as well sit down
Another miss from Busquets and a deliberate handball from Drogba - lucky boy
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The review of this on RTE2 tomorrow should be good especially if Chelsea get through.
Why
It would be funny to see Dunphy going apoplectic.
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It would be funny to see Dunphy going apoplectic.
You need to get out more.
Kenny should sigh messi. Great at the woodwork.
If they hang on this will go down as the greatest defensive performance in the history of the CL. Absolutely superb discipline from Chelsea
Quote from: EC Unique on April 24, 2012, 09:27:58 PM
Kenny should sigh messi. Great at the woodwork.
This is just so dumb. Like dumber than the usual efforts.
Unreal. Fair play to them :D
unbelievable - Torres on the break away
How many have they out of the final ?
Terry
Ivanovic
Ramires
Meireles
Another enjoyable CL semi final didn't think it would happen but Chelsea have knocked out Barca :o no doubt they got luck over the two legs but for the sheer workrate alone they deserved it. Is it going to be Chelsea vs Mourinho CL final?
Just had to be Torres to seal the deal.
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This is just so dumb. Like dumber than the usual efforts.
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How many have they out of the final ?
Terry
Ivanovic
Ramires
Meireles
Meireles must be sick.
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How many have they out of the final ?
Terry
Ivanovic
Ramires
Meireles
Does it matter? just park the bus and play Torres or Drogba up front
Astonishing..
RDM - one lucky general..
Will still be underdogs in the final..
Lol at JT the clown. Will this get de-mateo the job next year? 4th place in the premier league is not looking so attractive anymore!
Always enjoyed watching Di Matteo back in his prime - and he appears* to be a solid, club based character - not a big money guy. Fair play to Chelsea - some result.
* from what I can see in the media.
It needed a streaker and then it would have been the most incredible game ever.
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Kenny should sigh messi. Great at the woodwork.
This is just so dumb. Like dumber than the usual efforts.
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It's not a dumb as the people who keep rising to him.
Fair play to chelsea but sky sports would sicken your hole - greatest night ever in the champions league, really?
Man United would have won the Champions League this year if they hadn't been knocked out...........
Feck me. The race for 3rd is a little nervier now.
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Kenny should sigh messi. Great at the woodwork.
This is just so dumb. Like dumber than the usual efforts.
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It's not a dumb as the people who keep rising to him.
Fair play to chelsea but sky sports would sicken your hole - greatest night ever in the champions league, really?
Have you never watched Sky Sports before? What else were you expecting from them.
It was very similar to Barcelona v Inter Milan two years ago. Barcelona picked a bad time to have a sticky patch in their season, it must be hard to play against 9 players in the box but a lot of their attacks seemed to consist of Alves crossing from the right, Chelsea must have loved it.
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Man United would have won the Champions League this year if they hadn't been knocked out...........
Who knows after tonights result same could be said about Manchester City. If Chelsea 6th in the league can knock out Barcelona....
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Man United would have won the Champions League this year if they hadn't been knocked out...........
Who knows after tonights result same could be said about Manchester City. If Chelsea 6th in the league can knock out Barcelona....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Fair f**cks to Di Matteo and Chelsea. They have a few knackers in their team and Terry proved his class again tonight but you have to admire the balls Chelsea showed over 2 games and the likes of Cole,Cech, Lampard (set up 2 goals brilliantly) and Ramires were brilliant.
Barca looked tired in the 2nd half, squad is not big enough and the likes of Iniesta,Xavi and Messi have played too many games this season, which bodes well for Ireland in the summer.
Funny how the 2 big money donkeys Torres and Carroll delivered for their team in big games at the business end of the season.
After JT's description of what happened his trial is going to be funny, John do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth so help you God. I do ..................the jury will fall round the place laughing.
QuoteI wonder how many of you were hoping for a Chelsea win as the game went on and on, I also wonder how many of you hoping for a Chelsea win were slating Donegal after last years semi final of the All Ireland for putting into a defensive display.
Based on that analogy your logic is;
Dublin = Barca
Donegal = Chelsea
I think that's grossly disrecpectful to Barca and Donegal!.
Ramires & Ivanovic will be some loss for Chelsea in the final.
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QuoteI wonder how many of you were hoping for a Chelsea win as the game went on and on, I also wonder how many of you hoping for a Chelsea win were slating Donegal after last years semi final of the All Ireland for putting into a defensive display.
Based on that analogy your logic is;
Dublin = Barca
Donegal = Chelsea
I think that's grossly disrecpectful to Barca and Donegal!.
;D
Great match. The first chelski goal was class.
A lot of it must be down to AVB .
It would be great if Chelsea could beat Bayern in Munich .
fair fecks to chelsea. nobody gave them a chance. mourinho v chelsea final???
Gary Neville sounded like he was having an orgasm when Torres scored.
Anyone else hear Geoff Shreves(sp?) telling Ivanovic that he wouldn't be playing in the final..What a knob.
That match showed that, sometimes, soccer can be exciting to watch.
Quote from: SHEEDY on April 24, 2012, 10:11:14 PM
fair fecks to chelsea. nobody gave them a chance. mourinho v chelsea final???
Yep that's what I reckon and Real will beat them handy enough too I would reckon.
Drogba a different man tonight than he was when Xavi put them out at Stamford Bridge a couple of years ago... :-/
Quote from: Orangemac on April 24, 2012, 09:53:19 PM
Funny how the 2 big money donkeys Torres and Carroll delivered for their team in big games at the business end of the season.
Werent Chelsea through the way it stood anyway?
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Gary Neville sounded like he was having an orgasm when Torres scored.
Anyone else hear Geoff Shreves(sp?) telling Ivanovic that he wouldn't be playing in the final..What a knob.
Aye a proper cnut. There is a time and a place.
Gutted, but fully deserved by Chelsea. Be very interesting to see if Barca can come back next year or if this is this is the end. Xavi is getting on and they haven't a replacement who can compare to him, not Cesc, not Thiago.
And on the note of Geoff Shreeves, what an utter bollocks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTo54DX4oGM
Well done to CFC. Have had their share of woes v barca down the years and
got their bit of luck over the 2legs.
Pity the likes of Ramires won't make the final. His goal deserved it.
Barca fans will be sickened after this week but fair play to them they applauded
Torres after his finish and were still singing after final whistle and they will blame
nobody but themselves for this loss.
What a refreshing change..
Shreeves was bang out of order but he probably knew that beforehand and has achieved what he wanted to by causing a bit of contoversy to raise the profile. The guy has form.
Feel a bit sorry for barca. Wouldn't mind seeing chelsea go on and win it though for hoping barca would avenge saturday night's defeat in the final.
Can't see bayern holding out though many would have said the same about chelsea.
Well done Chelsea.
Backs to the wall. Used up a lot of luck over 2 games but that's football.
Real v Chelsea final now I expect.
Surely Chelsea couldn't do it ?
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Well done Chelsea.
Backs to the wall. Used up a lot of luck over 2 games but that's football.
Real v Chelsea final now I expect.
Surely Chelsea couldn't do it ?
Na. Real will destroy them.
Earlier in the week, Torres had said "the best team does not always win". His words proved gloriously prophetic for England's last men standing in Europe as they fought tooth and nail to scrap their way past the continent's finest and into the final in Munich on 19 May.
That it was Torres who scored the goal after being so maligned during his time at the Blues made for the perfect ending to a famous night for Roberto di Matteo's side.
Quote from: gallsman on April 24, 2012, 10:39:51 PM
Gutted, but fully deserved by Chelsea. Be very interesting to see if Barca can come back next year or if this is this is the end. Xavi is getting on and they haven't a replacement who can compare to him, not Cesc, not Thiago.
And on the note of Geoff Shreeves, what an utter bollocks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTo54DX4oGM
Why gutted?
Quote from: gallsman on April 24, 2012, 10:39:51 PM
Gutted, but fully deserved by Chelsea. Be very interesting to see if Barca can come back next year or if this is this is the end. Xavi is getting on and they haven't a replacement who can compare to him, not Cesc, not Thiago.
And on the note of Geoff Shreeves, what an utter bollocks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTo54DX4oGM
Saw a great tweet from someone...
"Branislav, your dog is dead." "Yes, is dead." "You know your dog is dead?" "Yes." "And that you will never, ever see him again?" "Is true."
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 24, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 24, 2012, 10:12:34 PM
Gary Neville sounded like he was having an orgasm when Torres scored.
Anyone else hear Geoff Shreves(sp?) telling Ivanovic that he wouldn't be playing in the final..What a knob.
Aye a proper cnut. There is a time and a place.
Really felt sorry for ivanovic,he has been one of chelseas best players this season
what a moron shreeves is.that just sums sky and their presenters up.
Don't understand why people would question if this is the ned of Barca.
They played Chelsea aff the pitch over 2 games, 75% possession the first night, 70% posession the next night, missed penaly, hit posts etc.
Chelsea's name could be on her.
Shreeves was well out of order and needs to be told so. Total lack of class.
Quote from: EC Unique on April 24, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
Shreeves was well out of order and needs to be told so. Total lack of class.
Aye a bollox.
Seemed to enjoy it. How many are Chelsea missing for the finale ?
Quote from: orangeman on April 24, 2012, 11:20:35 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 24, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
Shreeves was well out of order and needs to be told so. Total lack of class.
Aye a bollox.
Seemed to enjoy it. How many are Chelsea missing for the finale ?
Terry, ivanovic and ramires
Arguably the 3 worst players they could have lost
herself is gutted. barca fans aren't used to losing.
the last 3 games were all the same though. Barca needed to up the tempo, the slow build ups and trying to work it through the defensive wall just didn't seem to be working in the previous 2 games, so I was surprised to see them playing the same way again. I guess not having a tall threat for set pieces and crosses makes it harder for them.
They need a Niall Quinn on the bench. ;)
Quote from: Orior on April 24, 2012, 11:15:33 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 24, 2012, 10:39:51 PM
Gutted, but fully deserved by Chelsea. Be very interesting to see if Barca can come back next year or if this is this is the end. Xavi is getting on and they haven't a replacement who can compare to him, not Cesc, not Thiago.
And on the note of Geoff Shreeves, what an utter bollocks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTo54DX4oGM
Saw a great tweet from someone...
"Branislav, your dog is dead." "Yes, is dead." "You know your dog is dead?" "Yes." "And that you will never, ever see him again?" "Is true."
Lee Westwood tweeted that Shreeves rang him up to tell him he has never won a major!
Havent got access to Youtube at work. Can someone tell me what exactly Shreeves said?
Presume Ivanovic already knew he was out of the final, or didn't he?
Fair play to Chelsea. Just saw the last 30 mins or so...
Quote from: Orior on April 24, 2012, 10:12:46 PM
That match showed that, sometimes, soccer can be exciting to watch.
You only think that because Chelsea played like Armagh! :P
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 24, 2012, 11:22:38 PM
Quote from: orangeman on April 24, 2012, 11:20:35 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 24, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
Shreeves was well out of order and needs to be told so. Total lack of class.
Aye a bollox.
Seemed to enjoy it. How many are Chelsea missing for the finale ?
Terry, ivanovic and ramires
Arguably the 3 worst players they could have lost
Spare a thought for poor JT, Chelsea through and through, going to miss out on their big night.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sc**bag
Haters gonna hate 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uchOo5HU95s
Who was it said "Football...bloody hell"
Could it be that David Luiz and Gary Cahill will anchor Chelsea's defence to CL glory :o
Chelsea...mes que un club! ;D
Gutted for JT. Chelsea runs through that man's blood. Diamond geezer, proper gent, not that type of player, legend!
Counts Malouda, Kalou and Ramires amongst his closest friends ;)
Quote from: Rossie11 on April 24, 2012, 10:41:47 PM
Well done to CFC. Have had their share of woes v barca down the years and
got their bit of luck over the 2legs.
Pity the likes of Ramires won't make the final. His goal deserved it.
Barca fans will be sickened after this week but fair play to them they applauded
Torres after his finish and were still singing after final whistle and they will blame
nobody but themselves for this loss.
What a refreshing change..
From what I saw immediately after Torres scored they were looking to rip his head off.
AQMP - Are you trying to build up your post count?
"It does look bad on the replay," Terry told Sky Sports. "I raised my knee but hopefully the people out there who know me, know I'm not that kind of player.
"At the time I was bewildered, but looking at the replay it looks a red card. On a personal note, of course (it hurts I miss the final). But we deserve to be in the Champions League final.
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2012, 09:34:56 AM
Gutted for JT. Chelsea runs through that man's blood. Diamond geezer, proper gent, not that type of player, legend!
Counts Malouda, Kalou and Ramires amongst his closest friends ;)
;D ;D ;D
Funniest thing I've seen on the board in a fair while.
Viva John Terry
Viva John Terry
He hates you if you're black
He knees you in the back
Viva John Terry
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 25, 2012, 10:07:06 AM
AQMP - Are you trying to build up your post count?
Yeah wanted to bust through that 1050 barrier!!
I'll give a more reasoned post on Chelsea board later.
Must say I am delighted Chelsea got through lastnight. I don't really know why. Maybe it is to prove that Barca are not the machine that the world press has built them up to be. It is also hard not to like De-Mateo. Also as a neutral we naturally go for the underdog. I was delighted to see Torres get the goal too, he is now slowly returning to form since he got away from Liverpool.
Anyway it goes to show the PL is not as bad as some think it is.
In the final I am not sure who I will route for, If Real get through they will get my support.
Now Barcelona and their fans know how Liverpool have been feeling for most of the season.
I was completely neutral before the game but felt gutted for Barca. Suppose that's the old north of Ireland injustice complex coming out in me.
Last night was a bigger job than the Northern Bank.
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
Must say I am delighted Chelsea got through lastnight. I don't really know why. Maybe it is to prove that Barca are not the machine that the world press has built them up to be. It is also hard not to like De-Mateo. Also as a neutral we naturally go for the underdog. I was delighted to see Torres get the goal too, he is now slowly returning to form since he got away from Liverpool.
Anyway it goes to show the PL is not as bad as some think it is.
In the final I am not sure who I will route for, If Real get through they will get my support.
How many times is that now you have said you wanted Chelsea to win?
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2012, 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
Must say I am delighted Chelsea got through lastnight. I don't really know why. Maybe it is to prove that Barca are not the machine that the world press has built them up to be. It is also hard not to like De-Mateo. Also as a neutral we naturally go for the underdog. I was delighted to see Torres get the goal too, he is now slowly returning to form since he got away from Liverpool.
Anyway it goes to show the PL is not as bad as some think it is.
In the final I am not sure who I will route for, If Real get through they will get my support.
How many times is that now you have said you wanted Chelsea to win?
I don't know. Have you counted?
By no means a fan of Chelsea but was glad to see them win last night. Insofar as I can feel sorry for multimilionaires I felt for the 3 lads who got the 2nd yellows.
Jeez, that goal by Ramires was nothing short of magical. Thought Cole was as always brilliant as was Lampard and Drogba.
In some ways lady luck evened out the result from a few seasons ago.
What in the name happened at the end with Torres completely on his own ? Was I mistaken but was there a tv shot where only Torres and the ref were in view. Chasing a goal and all that but there should always be one man back.
Quote from: Orangemac on April 24, 2012, 09:53:19 PM
Fair f**cks to Di Matteo and Chelsea. They have a few knackers in their team and Terry proved his class again tonight but you have to admire the balls Chelsea showed over 2 games and the likes of Cole,Cech, Lampard (set up 2 goals brilliantly) and Ramires were brilliant.
Barca looked tired in the 2nd half, squad is not big enough and the likes of Iniesta,Xavi and Messi have played too many games this season, which bodes well for Ireland in the summer.
Funny how the 2 big money donkeys Torres and Carroll delivered for their team in big games at the business end of the season.
The rest of your post is on the money but how the fcuk can you call Torres a donkey. Slate him for lack of form,confidence, effort etc but a donkey...no.
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
Well where do you start with this one. Tell you what, look at this statistic over the two games:
Goals scored: Chelsea
3 (Three)
Goals scored: Barcelona
2 (Two)
Pretty telling...
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
I'd say that sentence has a lot to do with that nonsense of a rant.
For me it was the fact they won despite the efforts of Captain England. Sublime goal by Rameres and a (surely it can't be this easy) goal by Torres.
Don't know who I would like the final to be against but either way it will be Sky's wet dream. Beating the old maestro Mourinho or a rerun of WWII.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on April 24, 2012, 11:40:50 PM
Havent got access to Youtube at work. Can someone tell me what exactly Shreeves said?
Presume Ivanovic already knew he was out of the final, or didn't he?
Not 100% sure if Ivanovic knew are not, I don't think he fully understood what was being said due to his broken english.
Shreeves said, 'Did you get booked after the penalty?'
Ivanovic said 'Yes'
Shreeves the said, 'You do realise that you'll now miss the final' or words to that affect.
Fcuker couldn't wait to get the boot in
I have to say Barca got the result they deserved last night, I say that as a long standing fan. On balance they should have gone into that match at least at 1-1 and probably with a 1-3 win at Chelsea. They took the lead and didn't defend it. The game last night is symptomatic of the way they've being playing this last few months, breathtaking football but defensively suspect.Messi never takes penalties like the one he took last night. I hope this is not the end for Pep they are still a delight to watch. The paid for the lack of depth in their squad, no Villa and Sanchez and Messi out of sorts. The loss of Pique was immense and whilst I admire Valdes as a keeper I don't know what he was trying when he clobbered Pique. On a brighter note it was great to see Terry get a red and Lampard was lucky not to follow him. That said I've had a feeling from Christmas that Mourinho was going to get the better of Pep this year...but I hope Bayern do them tonight.
i just got the feeling after the first game that Barca wern,t going to have any luck,they completely dominated but luck deserted them.that was anti football that Chelsea played wih everyone behind the ball and massive luck
I watched the game and all I could think of was that the fears that people had last year were starting to come true, teams are starting to copy Donegals style of play.
I know Arsenal, Tottenham etc... fans probably were cheering for chelsea last night but I cannot fathom why. If chelsea win surely that would do 4th place out of a champions league place. If I were a Newcastle/Arsenal/Tottenham fan I'd be cheering anyone but chelsea.
On another note Valdes isn't really a great keeper, he's good, but definitely not good enough for barcelona. The only reason he concedes so little is that the other teams usually son't have enough of the ball to take decent shots
Glen Hoddle was right. Bara needed to be more inventive
The damage was done for Barca when they didn't manage to score in the first leg. Good defensive performance by Chelsea last night and they got more than a little luck along the way. Fair play to the linesman with the offside call and the refereee was decent enough, although he should have sent both Drogba and Lampard off as well. Fat Frank in particular deserved a red for his cowardly tackle.
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
Well where do you start with this one. Tell you what, look at this statistic over the two games:
Goals scored: Chelsea 3 (Three)
Goals scored: Barcelona 2 (Two)
Pretty telling...
Brilliant of you, and chelsea had 3 shots on target over 2 games. Do you think that's good for football? I'm sure you would be happy if every winning team carried on like that, u'd soon get sick of watching it
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on April 25, 2012, 12:45:05 PM
i just got the feeling after the first game that Barca wern,t going to have any luck,they completely dominated but luck deserted them.that was anti football that Chelsea played wih everyone behind the ball and massive luck
That's harsh on Chelsea. You have to go out and win the games the best way you can. Obviously Barca are technically superior man for man, but that doesn't mean you have to roll over and let them tickle your belly.
Chelsea defended manfully, which is still part of the game, and score 3 goals over the two legs. I think they absolutely deserved their little bits of luck , but I think almost every team that wins anything has the ball bouce for them at some stage.
Fair play to them.
I'd imagine that Chelski are practicing their penalty kicks today
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 25, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
I'd say that sentence has a lot to do with that nonsense of a rant.
To be honest, not really, i just threw it in for extra measure. What's nonsense about the rest of it, you want me to give them some credit?
ok then credit to chelsea for defending well and getting lucky, and taking their 3 chances
Fair play Chelsea. Nice to see the Barcelona aura of invincibility dented for this year at least.
Barcelona missed a serious amount of chances over the two legs despite Chelsea's excellent defensive effort. Luck and a huge effort is whats needed to beat them.
The bollix Torres though, had 10 euro at 8/1 on a 2-1 scoreline....sickened! ;D
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
You are spot on there, the Utd lads in particular are still sore about how Barcelona dealt with them in the two finals and have turned into cheerleaders for the Premier League.
Quote from: Orior on April 25, 2012, 12:54:40 PM
I'd imagine that Chelski are practicing their penalty kicks today
I don't know Madrid are very direct and Munich will be at home - I just can't see how Chelsea will hold them out with a back four of Bosingwa, Luiz, Cahill and Cole, to put that into perspective only Cole would make the Arsenal back 4, there is a serious lack of discipline in Luiz and Bosingwa. Chelsea I think will have to go for the jugular.
Chelsea will now not finish top 4 but a victory in the final would be serious bad luck on Arsenal/Newcastle/Spuds.
Quote from: Orior on April 25, 2012, 12:54:40 PM
I'd imagine that Chelski are practicing their penalty kicks today
John Terry won't be :o His last one at Moscow was dreadful. I'm sure he's glad that he is missing out this time round
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 25, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
I'd say that sentence has a lot to do with that nonsense of a rant.
To be honest, not really, i just threw it in for extra measure. What's nonsense about the rest of it, you want me to give them some credit?
ok then credit to chelsea for defending well and getting lucky, and taking their 3 chances
That word there made your post into a rant. They're professional sportsmen and are well entitled to win any way they can (inside the laws of the game). In most other sports (team or individual) the best team doesn't always win especially in a knockout tournament. Credit for giving Chelsea their due, yes they were extremely lucky but sometimes sh*t happens.
Quote from: Magicsponge on April 25, 2012, 12:50:17 PM
I watched the game and all I could think of was that the fears that people had last year were starting to come true, teams are starting to copy Donegals style of play.
I know Arsenal, Tottenham etc... fans probably were cheering for chelsea last night but I cannot fathom why. If chelsea win surely that would do 4th place out of a champions league place. If I were a Newcastle/Arsenal/Tottenham fan I'd be cheering anyone but chelsea.
On another note Valdes isn't really a great keeper, he's good, but definitely not good enough for barcelona. The only reason he concedes so little is that the other teams usually son't have enough of the ball to take decent shots
I'm picturing Guardiola in his hire car heading across the mountains to Glenties to consult Jim McGuinness about tactics over a pint of stout.
Quote from: Magicsponge on April 25, 2012, 12:50:17 PM
I watched the game and all I could think of was that the fears that people had last year were starting to come true, teams are starting to copy Donegals style of play.
I know Arsenal, Tottenham etc... fans probably were cheering for chelsea last night but I cannot fathom why. If chelsea win surely that would do 4th place out of a champions league place. If I were a Newcastle/Arsenal/Tottenham fan I'd be cheering anyone but chelsea.
On another note Valdes isn't really a great keeper, he's good, but definitely not good enough for barcelona. The only reason he concedes so little is that the other teams usually son't have enough of the ball to take decent shots
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Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 25, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
I'd say that sentence has a lot to do with that nonsense of a rant.
To be honest, not really, i just threw it in for extra measure. What's nonsense about the rest of it, you want me to give them some credit?
ok then credit to chelsea for defending well and getting lucky, and taking their 3 chances
Orchardman was just wondering where you stood on George Foreman battering Ali round after round just to get suckered punched?
I am gutted Barcelona lost as I love watching them play. But Chelsea went at it with a game plan, and fair play, with a lot of luck it pulled off. They would be mugs to go toe to toe with them and get slaughtered.
However I agree with the sentiments, that chelsea have spent hundreds upon hundreds of millions and are reduced to using tactics that west brom would use to beat Barca. I suuppose it tells you how good Barca are, and how some big spending teams havent quite ot the best approach.
I think Chelsea's win shows again the stupidity of Ferguson with his approach to last year's final, especially as Mourinho and Inter showed how to do it in 2010 with an inferior team and his United team being made look like amateurs in 2009. You're never going to beat Barca in a loose, open game.
Quote from: J70 on April 25, 2012, 01:38:52 PM
I think Chelsea's win shows the stupidity of Ferguson with his approach to last year's final, especially as Mourinho and Inter showed how to do it in 2010 with an inferior team and his United team made were look like amateurs in 2009. You're never going to beat Barca in a loose, open game.
True, especially strange when United kept it tight in 2008 and beat them 1-0 over the two legs.
Quote from: HiMucker on April 25, 2012, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 25, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
I'd say that sentence has a lot to do with that nonsense of a rant.
To be honest, not really, i just threw it in for extra measure. What's nonsense about the rest of it, you want me to give them some credit?
ok then credit to chelsea for defending well and getting lucky, and taking their 3 chances
Orchardman was just wondering where you stood on George Foreman battering Ali round after round just to get suckered punched?
I am gutted Barcelona lost as I love watching them play. But Chelsea went at it with a game plan, and fair play, with a lot of luck it pulled off. They would be mugs to go toe to toe with them and get slaughtered.
However I agree with the sentiments, that chelsea have spent hundreds upon hundreds of millions and are reduced to using tactics that west brom would use to beat Barca. I suuppose it tells you how good Barca are, and how some big spending teams havent quite ot the best approach.
Mucker, you are right, boxing does allow for a suckerpunch that can cause a total upset, and we have to accept that. But funny enough, it was boxing and tennis that the guys on tv3 were alluding to last night when they said in any other sport the team or individuals) that dominated so much would easily win. Of course in boxing, it it goes the full 12 rounds, a dominant fighter will win easily on points. But anyway, soccer is the way it us, and sometimes it can be a great game, i'm not here to try and change the rules
Gary Neville's "goalgasm" going viral!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRLzgl6Aoww
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 25, 2012, 01:16:50 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 25, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
I'd say that sentence has a lot to do with that nonsense of a rant.
To be honest, not really, i just threw it in for extra measure. What's nonsense about the rest of it, you want me to give them some credit?
ok then credit to chelsea for defending well and getting lucky, and taking their 3 chances
That word there made your post into a rant. They're professional sportsmen and are well entitled to win any way they can (inside the laws of the game). In most other sports (team or individual) the best team doesn't always win especially in a knockout tournament. Credit for giving Chelsea their due, yes they were extremely lucky but sometimes sh*t happens.
Yes, i was disgusted, a lot of other people are not. I did say at the bottom of my post that I didn't expect chelsea to any diiferent, once they were going through on away goals, they did what they had to do.
By the way guys, there is a difference when i mention the best team winning on the day. Eg, mayo knocking out cork last year, cork were league and all ireland champions and were the better team leading into the game, but mayo cleaned them up, were the better team on the day, and i was delighted to see them win. That's what i love about an underdog winning.
This is different, this was the best team by far over 2 legs getting knocked out, which I don't believe happens much in GAA. But that's simply as their are higher scoring set up's with goals and points. I'm not annoyed to see barca beaten as such, as they have won plenty, i just would have enjoyed it more if it were a proper underdog victory as in Benfica or some team playing giving them a proper rattle and getting through with some luck
I hope Di Matteo tears strips off that glory hunting gimp Torres for being so far up the pitch when Chelsea needed everyone behind the ball
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
You are spot on there, the Utd lads in particular are still sore about how Barcelona dealt with them in the two finals and have turned into cheerleaders for the Premier League.
Everyone keeps telling us how poor the PL is and how it is the worst it has been in years. Once again the PL provides one of the finalists for the CL so it could not be that bad?
Are you delusional?
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2012, 02:07:04 PM
I hope Di Matteo tears strips off that glory hunting gimp Torres for being so far up the pitch when Chelsea needed everyone behind the ball
I was thinking something similar at the time - he'd just lost the ball on the edge of his own box and then decided to run up the field leaving the rest of the team to defend his mistake. Alls well that ends well i suppose though! :)
Fair point EC. There's been English representation in the final every year since 2005, except for 2010.
I don't think there's any doubt that the relative strength of the Premier League has declined since the years when there were multiple English teams making the semis though.
Or maybe its just singularly down to Liverpool turning shit over the past two years! :P
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 02:10:20 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 25, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Have seen a lot of people even on facebook giving praise and glad chelsea won, these lads would all be liverpool, man u and gooner fans. Very strange, i think alot of EPL fans are very jealous as their always hearing how the top 2 in spain are so much better, which they still are.
I'm not a fan of any team (outside celtic) , but last night made me sick. We had training so i only seen the 2nd half, i know people talk about the great discipline and defence etc, but it was disgusting. It may be tiring, but it's not that hard to stand and defend your own box with 9 men and just boot the ball away. Chelsea were hammered over 2 legs, if barca had of scored first over the 2 legs and made chelsea come and attack, what would chelsea have offered up? very little i'd say.
Talk about underdog etc doesn't wash, not when they bought torres last year for 50 millions lids, hardly poor wee underdogs.
Plus i never usually bet and i threw lids on barca last night so i'm extra pissed off.
The best thing about GAA ( and alot of other sports too), is that the best team on the day usually wins ( except armagh in 2005). Soccer is what it is i guess, chelsea were right to do what they did, especially with 9 men, i just wish they could have been sickened at the end by a late goal
You are spot on there, the Utd lads in particular are still sore about how Barcelona dealt with them in the two finals and have turned into cheerleaders for the Premier League.
Everyone keeps telling us how poor the PL is and how it is the worst it has been in years. Once again the PL provides one of the finalists for the CL so it could not be that bad?
Yet Man United, favourites to retain the Premiership title, were absolutely torn apart over 2 legs by the team 6th in La Liga! ;D Explain that one.
I also find it funny that United fans have all become anti-Barca after they got their arses handed to them twice. Credit to Chelsea, if the game was played another 20 times they wouldn't get through again but they got a bit of luck. They're still complete scum though.
Barca should have scored in the first match. Look at the stats
CHELSEA v BARCELONA: Some key stats from the first leg
PassesCompleted/Attempted Chelsea 194/313 Barcelona 782/902
Possession Chelsea 30% Barcelona 70%
Shots on Target Chelsea 2 Barcelona 15
Hit the woodwork Chelsea 0 Barcelona 2
Corners Chelsea 1 Barcelona 8
Lies, Damned lies....
The simple fact is that Chelsea have the run of momentum with them now, like United in 1999 and Liverpool in 2005. They are not the 'best' team in the competition but they will win it. John Terry will be crying this time round for the right reasons, and that upsets me :'(
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/25/john-obi-mikel-uefa-devastated
Asked if he felt his team-mates have been harshly punished, the Nigeria international said: "Yes, the yellow cards should be cancelled going into a final and Uefa should look into that.
"When you get to the final everyone wants to see the best players and it's a shame that JT, Ivanovic, Meireles and Ramires won't play. The JT one was soft from what I saw and it was a yellow card. I think Sanchez made the most of it.
"Alexis did the same to me as well. He got me yellow carded. There was a little touch and he rolled on the ground 10 times. He definitely made the most of it.
;D
They know the rules. It's hard not to feel sorry for three of them (JT the sc**bag being the odd one out) but Chelsea will just have to get on with it. Didn't Utd lose their midfield (Scholes & Keane) in 99 and go on to win it.
http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2012/0425/1224315164676.html
John Terry "Sanchez was darting in behind me. I've seen the replay and it does look bad. I'm not that type of player to intentionally hurt anyone. I've raised my knee, which I maybe shouldn't have done in hindsight. But hopefully people who know me as a person, as a player...I'm not that type of player."
No John, you are exactly that type of player.
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2012, 09:29:35 AM
Who was it said "Football...bloody hell"
Fergie after the 1999 CL final.
Quote from: ballinaman on April 25, 2012, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 25, 2012, 01:38:52 PM
I think Chelsea's win shows the stupidity of Ferguson with his approach to last year's final, especially as Mourinho and Inter showed how to do it in 2010 with an inferior team and his United team made were look like amateurs in 2009. You're never going to beat Barca in a loose, open game.
True, especially strange when United kept it tight in 2008 and beat them 1-0 over the two legs.
Spot on if Fergie gets the chance again i wonder will he play a more defensive game?
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Unfortunately success breeds hate even Barcelona one of the best footballing clubs to watch can't avoid it. TBH Of the teams left in the competition i would have liked to see Barca win it again but they haven't been at the level they were in the last few years & the injury to Villa didn't help them.
Credit to Chelsea though against the odds i think this sums up last nights result best , Optajoe ""20 - Years since Barça last failed to win after being 2 goals ahead at the Nou Camp in the Champions League (2-3 vs CSKA Nov 92)."
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Quote from: Magicsponge on April 25, 2012, 12:50:17 PM
I watched the game and all I could think of was that the fears that people had last year were starting to come true, teams are starting to copy Donegals style of play.
I know Arsenal, Tottenham etc... fans probably were cheering for chelsea last night but I cannot fathom why. If chelsea win surely that would do 4th place out of a champions league place. If I were a Newcastle/Arsenal/Tottenham fan I'd be cheering anyone but chelsea.
On another note Valdes isn't really a great keeper, he's good, but definitely not good enough for barcelona. The only reason he concedes so little is that the other teams usually son't have enough of the ball to take decent shots
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Part of how Barcelona build from the back is dependent on Valdes ability to play the ball with a comfort unusual for keepers. Any potential replacement would need to be able to fit in and perform that role as well.
Also, as for JT's "I'm not that kind of player", last week Puyol dislocated a finger, was clearly seen explaining to Terry what happened. Terry decided to give the dislocated finger a good tug. Absolute tr**p.
Also, yes, many United fans have indeed been reduced to pathetically becoming ABB's over the last few years.
(https://p.twimg.com/ArVbpqLCQAAzzjl.jpg)
Lack of defending in this semi final Chelsea will be loving it.
Anyone else find Ray Houghton annoying?
When the semifinals were announced what price was a Chelsea v Bayern final?!
Quote from: Gazzler on April 25, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
Anyone else find Ray Houghton annoying?
Yep I really despair at the lack of quality in football co-commentary..
Quote from: Gazzler on April 25, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
Anyone else find Ray Houghton annoying?
Peter Shilton and Gianluca Pagliuca
Bayern Munich the better side Real Madrid playing for penalties?
Like the overhead camera angle
Sensible Soccer.
I can't remember - do away goals count in the same way in extra time?
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 25, 2012, 09:39:38 PM
I can't remember - do away goals count in the same way in extra time?
sure do. think we'll see pens.
Pens it is. Real to go through.
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 25, 2012, 04:07:01 PM
They know the rules. It's hard not to feel sorry for three of them (JT the sc**bag being the odd one out) but Chelsea will just have to get on with it. Didn't Utd lose their midfield (Scholes & Keane) in 99 and go on to win it.
It's hard to feel sorry for Ramirez and Ivanovic - they've put their clubs in a bad spot for the final for nothing more than a bit of mouthing to the referee. If I was a Chelsea fan I'd be pretty irritated at them. You could at least give Mireles a bit of a pardon as he was the only one to get booked making a feckin' tackle!
Beat the Germans?
John Giles 'Madrid have nothing to lose in the penalties'
Eh yeah they do John, a place in the Final!!
Ronaldo ;D
Some saves there.
German pens!! So Chelski are depleted and playing the Champions league final against the home team on their own soil
Bayern deserved it
do these guys not practise penalties?? Bit disappointed with the last two nights results. Not that fussed by the final now to be honest.
Real were very poor on the penalties.
What's another year for Mourinho ?
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2012, 10:23:14 PM
Bayern deserved it
They did. Too defensive through the game and paid for it. Bad penalty efforts.
Quote from: Puckoon on April 25, 2012, 10:14:54 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on April 25, 2012, 04:07:01 PM
They know the rules. It's hard not to feel sorry for three of them (JT the sc**bag being the odd one out) but Chelsea will just have to get on with it. Didn't Utd lose their midfield (Scholes & Keane) in 99 and go on to win it.
It's hard to feel sorry for Ramirez and Ivanovic - they've put their clubs in a bad spot for the final for nothing more than a bit of mouthing to the referee. If I was a Chelsea fan I'd be pretty irritated at them. You could at least give Mireles a bit of a pardon as he was the only one to get booked making a feckin' tackle!
My point exactly, I don't think there are many players who haven't mouthed at a referee. I know it's the rules but it's hard not to feel sorry for them. Anyway best of luck to both teams in the final, good to see both the underdogs get through.
Couldn't be happier for Ronaldo...Tit.
I was saying at work all week that it would be a Chelsea Vs Munich final, but I never had the guts to put the £££ behind it.
Oh well. I didn't lose anything and Madird losing (with the bonus of Ronaldo missing a peno) will cheer herself up a good bit too.
Have Bayern many players suspended for final?
Bayern Munich the best side over the two legs through to the final. La-liga best two not good enough to reach the Champions league final. 1984 Liverpool beat Roma at home wouldn't rule out Chelsea.
Good man Ramos, take your point and the goals will come
Jeff shrieves ....."jose, you're aware you'll miss the final now?"
Christ Houghton is a pain in the bollix, how can he sit there and criticise players taking penalties under the most intense mental pressure that most of them would have ever experienced. Idiot!
Spainish league the best in Europe? Meh! ::)
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 25, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
Christ Houghton is a pain in the bollix, how can he sit there and criticise players taking penalties under the most intense mental pressure that most of them would have ever experienced. Idiot!
How dare you ;). To be honest I never heard him, over here we have to put up with Adrian Chiles and Gareth Mouthgate.
Aaargh!!! Sorry Dinny I thought you were slagging Christ Hughton. ;)
So who does Jose blame this year????
Good game for 30mins, snoozefest after that & the penalties were worse. Bayern certainly deserve to go through to set up a home final. What makes soccer great is it's unpredictable nature, after watching this years CL maybe the Irish will pull off a few shocks during the summer?
Quote from: gawa316 on April 25, 2012, 10:28:06 PM
Have Bayern many players suspended for final?
Badstuber, Gustavo and Alaba.
RTE have spent 20mins talking about Ronaldos missed peno ::)
What about the rest of the game/players?
Quote from: Gazzler on April 25, 2012, 10:53:06 PM
RTE have spent 20mins talking about Ronaldos missed peno ::)
What about the rest of the game/players?
Obsessed with anything related to Man United.
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
Spainish league the best in Europe? Meh! ::)
Yeah it's very offensive when they don't say the english league is the best in europe :-[
Good to see Mourinho's team beat. Ramos, Pepe and Ronaldo are 3 players I would have no time for with the dirt the first two get up to and the sheer arrogance of the third. Mourinho in my view bad for football too so always good seeing his team beat.
I could see chelsea nicking this one. Not too bothered now but think chelsea will park the bus and counter.
Final will be very strange with so many of us expecting a Clasico final and so many first choice players missing. Feel the most sorry for Alaba across the two teams - no way on earth was that a yellow card. Looked excellent over both legs and is only 19. Bayern have a serious amount of young, quality homegrown talent.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 25, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 25, 2012, 10:53:06 PM
RTE have spent 20mins talking about Ronaldos missed peno ::)
What about the rest of the game/players?
Obsessed with anything related to Man United.
He is trying hard tonight bless him. ;D
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 25, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 25, 2012, 10:53:06 PM
RTE have spent 20mins talking about Ronaldos missed peno ::)
What about the rest of the game/players?
Obsessed with anything related to Man United.
He is trying hard tonight bless him. ;D
I'd imagine he meant RTE you tit ;D
Quote from: gallsman on April 25, 2012, 11:07:18 PM
Final will be very strange with so many of us expecting a Clasico final and so many first choice players missing. Feel the most sorry for Alaba across the two teams - no way on earth was that a yellow card. Looked excellent over both legs and is only 19. Bayern have a serious amount of young, quality homegrown talent.
German TV rights have just been negotiated with the Bundesliga securing an increase of 50% in income, so the teams will become even more competitive in the next few years.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 25, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 25, 2012, 10:53:06 PM
RTE have spent 20mins talking about Ronaldos missed peno ::)
What about the rest of the game/players?
Obsessed with anything related to Man United.
They are obsessed with Ronaldo more like it,well Dunphy is anyways,when he played for United Dunphy was always banging on about him.
Thought RTE was dreadful tonight,they did go on and on about Ronaldo missing his peno alright.
As some have mentioned I also thought Houghton was annoying.
News just in , Sergio Ramos' penalty has just landed
What would the odds on Ronaldo and Messi missing penalties in successive CLSF's. Really thought when Chelsea mugged Barca that Mourinho's name was on the cup. Couldn't be happier for Jose and Christie a right pair of tits. Mourinho's sycophantic comments about Chelsea after the game smacked partially of sour grapes and partially of please Chelsea take me back! Only hope the fcuk up La Liga.
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
Spainish league the best in Europe? Meh! ::)
The standard in the Spanish league is slipping, no teams in the Champions League final.
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 26, 2012, 09:50:41 AM
What would the odds on Ronaldo and Messi missing penalties in successive CLSF's. Really thought when Chelsea mugged Barca that Mourinho's name was on the cup. Couldn't be happier for Jose and Christie a right pair of tits. Mourinho's sycophantic comments about Chelsea after the game smacked partially of sour grapes and partially of please Chelsea take me back! Only hope the fcuk up La Liga.
It was also to try and keep the Madrid press on his side so they don't tear strips off him for such a cowardly performance.
He could get the bullet for that loss. Cappello and Toshack both got the sack for "only" winning the league.
He has committed an ever bigger crime in that his tactics are totally at odds with what Madrid stand for.
Quote from: Rossie11 on April 26, 2012, 10:00:03 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 26, 2012, 09:50:41 AM
What would the odds on Ronaldo and Messi missing penalties in successive CLSF's. Really thought when Chelsea mugged Barca that Mourinho's name was on the cup. Couldn't be happier for Jose and Christie a right pair of tits. Mourinho's sycophantic comments about Chelsea after the game smacked partially of sour grapes and partially of please Chelsea take me back! Only hope they fcuk up La Liga.
It was also to try and keep the Madrid press on his side so they don't tear strips off him for such a cowardly performance.
He could get the bullet for that loss. Cappello and Toshack both got the sack for "only" winning the league.
He has committed an ever bigger crime in that his tactics are totally at odds with what Madrid stand for.
Yep could'nt agree with you more, even with his tactics his record against Barca is poor.
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on April 25, 2012, 11:36:12 PM
News just in , Sergio Ramos' penalty has just landed
Are you sure it wasn't Chris Waddle's?
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on April 25, 2012, 11:36:12 PM
News just in , Sergio Ramos' penalty has just landed
NASA have dismissed rumours that there was a meteor collision over the planet last night and instead identified it as Ramos' penalty colliding with Charlie Adams penalty as it reentered the earths atmosphere following the Carling cup final penalty shoot out.
Quote from: Bingo on April 26, 2012, 12:42:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on April 25, 2012, 11:36:12 PM
News just in , Sergio Ramos' penalty has just landed
NASA have dismissed rumours that there was a meteor collision over the planet last night and instead identified it as Ramos' penalty colliding with Charlie Adams penalty as it reentered the earths atmosphere following the Carling cup final penalty shoot out.
I think both of them should be fined for losing good footballs.
Wanted Real to win if only to see Drogba giving Pepe a torrid time in the final. Bayern were the better team over the two games and deserved it (unlike Chelsea!)
Quote from: AQMP on April 26, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
Wanted Real to win if only to see Drogba giving Pepe a torrid time in the final. Bayern were the better team over the two games and deserved it (unlike Chelsea!)
I would have thought that Pepe was exactly the type of defender that Drogba doesn't like playing against. That is quick, strong, dogged and mean.
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 26, 2012, 09:54:53 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
Spainish league the best in Eur,ope? Meh! ::)
The standard in the Spanish league is slipping, no teams in the Champions League final.
Hard to say, but probably still is the best. It's not france, nor italy, and certainly not england. Some experts have been saying the last few years the bundesliga is very strong, in terms of the football watched and the record number of crowds etc. Europa league with 3 spanish semi finalists shows good strengh in depth for la liga. I know there were 3 portugal teams in it last year but they were the big 3 teams in portugal, so that's different.
One thing is for the sure, the top 3 teams in europe are (in any order u want):
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Milan and the EPL sides are a bit behind. I've already said my feelings on chelsea, though i'm sure even IF they wil the CL they can hardly be branded a top side if they only finish 5th in the EPL
Guardiola to quit at the end of the season and take a years break from football!!!
Quote from: GAA_Talk on April 26, 2012, 05:51:04 PM
Guardiola to quit at the end of the season and take a years break from football!!!
Another blow for Barcelona. I wonder which team he'll manage next?
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
Spainish league the best in Europe? Meh! ::)
And what league do you suggest is the best in Europe?
Can't see Abramovich giving him the year off to be honest. Maybe Two weeks in the Caribbean if he's lucky.
Quote from: GAA_Talk on April 26, 2012, 05:58:45 PM
Can't see Abramovich giving him the year off to be honest. Maybe Two weeks in the Caribbean if he's lucky.
I don't think Guardiola is motivated by money so I don't see him at Chelsea.
Tweet of the day...
UEFA say John Terry can lift the Champions League trophy. Why would Bayern want him joining in on their celebrations?
Hard to say who'd replace him as manager if, as looks likely, he decides to go. Luis Enrique looked a natural fit given that he'd be coming from a similar background where he knew many of the players from his own playing days and time as manager of the bBteam, but he hasn't had the best of seasons at Roma and they're unlikely to make the Champions League.
Quote from: Orchardman on April 26, 2012, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 26, 2012, 09:54:53 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
Spainish league the best in Eur,ope? Meh! ::)
The standard in the Spanish league is slipping, no teams in the Champions League final.
Hard to say, but probably still is the best. It's not france, nor italy, and certainly not england. Some experts have been saying the last few years the bundesliga is very strong, in terms of the football watched and the record number of crowds etc. Europa league with 3 spanish semi finalists shows good strengh in depth for la liga. I know there were 3 portugal teams in it last year but they were the big 3 teams in portugal, so that's different.
One thing is for the sure, the top 3 teams in europe are (in any order u want):
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Milan and the EPL sides are a bit behind. I've already said my feelings on chelsea, though i'm sure even IF they wil the CL they can hardly be branded a top side if they only finish 5th in the EPL
The Spanish league is still easily the best. As you say, 2 of the top 3 are Spanish, plus their 3 in the Europa League shows the strength in depth.
Their 6th best team gave the Premierships 'elite' a thumping! ;D
Hope Chelsea go on and win it now. Great performance on Tuesday night, rode their luck a bit, but they took their chances, where as Barca did not.
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2012, 06:29:07 PM
Quote from: GAA_Talk on April 26, 2012, 05:58:45 PM
Can't see Abramovich giving him the year off to be honest. Maybe Two weeks in the Caribbean if he's lucky.
I don't think Guardiola is motivated by money so I don't see him at Chelsea.
He's going to take on the Meath job
Magical Munich prove Bundesliga is Europe's best league... http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/magical-munich-prove-bundesliga-is-europes-best-league-7682385.html
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 26, 2012, 05:54:15 PM
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Guardiola to quit at the end of the season and take a years break from football!!!
Another blow for Barcelona. I wonder which team he'll manage next?
He's lined up to replace Paddy O'Rourke, hughie Morgan's flying out today to clainch the deal! :)
Quote from: Agent Orange on April 26, 2012, 10:22:10 PM
Hope Chelsea go on and win it now. Great performance on Tuesday night, rode their luck a bit, but they took their chances, where as Barca did not.
Rode their luck? Understatement of the year.
Quote from: SambaSaffron on April 26, 2012, 08:22:08 PM
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Spainish league the best in Eur,ope? Meh! ::)
The standard in the Spanish league is slipping, no teams in the Champions League final.
Hard to say, but probably still is the best. It's not france, nor italy, and certainly not england. Some experts have been saying the last few years the bundesliga is very strong, in terms of the football watched and the record number of crowds etc. Europa league with 3 spanish semi finalists shows good strengh in depth for la liga. I know there were 3 portugal teams in it last year but they were the big 3 teams in portugal, so that's different.
One thing is for the sure, the top 3 teams in europe are (in any order u want):
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Milan and the EPL sides are a bit behind. I've already said my feelings on chelsea, though i'm sure even IF they wil the CL they can hardly be branded a top side if they only finish 5th in the EPL
The Spanish league is still easily the best. As you say, 2 of the top 3 are Spanish, plus their 3 in the Europa League shows the strength in depth.
Their 6th best team gave the Premierships 'elite' a thumping! ;D
Again, don't see the big focus on Bilbao beating United. As mentioned before, temas from the bottom of the Premier League or any league can and do beat the top teams, that is the nature of football. Teams from divisions below the top leagues in Europe even beat the top sides some times too. Plus, the 6th best team in the Premiership knocked out the Spanish Leagues 'elite'.
Man United fans really have their knickers in a twist that the League they may win this year isn't the best league in Europe! :D
Quote from: Gazzler on April 27, 2012, 09:44:39 AM
Man United fans really have their knickers in a twist that the League they may win this year isn't the best league in Europe! :D
My point exactly. The amount of Manc fans on Facebook who revelled in Chelsea's victory over Barca simply because they thought it lessened the sizeable void between them at the spanish 2.
No matter what way you spin it the EPL has had far from a vintage year.
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 27, 2012, 09:39:25 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on April 26, 2012, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on April 26, 2012, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 26, 2012, 09:54:53 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 25, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
Spainish league the best in Eur,ope? Meh! ::)
The standard in the Spanish league is slipping, no teams in the Champions League final.
Hard to say, but probably still is the best. It's not france, nor italy, and certainly not england. Some experts have been saying the last few years the bundesliga is very strong, in terms of the football watched and the record number of crowds etc. Europa league with 3 spanish semi finalists shows good strengh in depth for la liga. I know there were 3 portugal teams in it last year but they were the big 3 teams in portugal, so that's different.
One thing is for the sure, the top 3 teams in europe are (in any order u want):
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Milan and the EPL sides are a bit behind. I've already said my feelings on chelsea, though i'm sure even IF they wil the CL they can hardly be branded a top side if they only finish 5th in the EPL
The Spanish league is still easily the best. As you say, 2 of the top 3 are Spanish, plus their 3 in the Europa League shows the strength in depth.
Their 6th best team gave the Premierships 'elite' a thumping! ;D
Again, don't see the big focus on Bilbao beating United. As mentioned before, temas from the bottom of the Premier League or any league can and do beat the top teams, that is the nature of football. Teams from divisions below the top leagues in Europe even beat the top sides some times too. Plus, the 6th best team in the Premiership knocked out the Spanish Leagues 'elite'.
I think it's obvious to anyone who has an idea about football the manner of the 2 defeats were completely different. Chelsea, fair play to them had a defensive strategy that worked. But if that tie was played another 20 times it wouldn't. United on the other hand wouldn''t be beating Bilbao if the game was still going on.
I'm not sure why United fans over here have become fans of the great English Premiership. I fully expect to see a lot of English shirts in the summer.
In all seriousness all this 'the best league in Eupope' debate is a pile of sh1t. It is impossible to prove who is the best. The leagues do not play each other so who will ever know. At present we have a EPL team v a German League team in the final but most will argue the Spainish league is best so not that easy to come to a solid conclusion. There is no doubt the PL has slipped as a few years ago the semis had 3 PL teams involved. I still think it is very strong but the best? No I don't think so but it is all a matter of opinion as nothing can be proven as fact.
Guardiola has resigned
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/27/barcelona-pep-guardiola
Mourinhos old pal Tito Vilanova announced as new manager
16/1 this morning..
Get in there. Beer for weekend paid for.. ;D
How much had you on it Rossie?
Only a tenner. Had a feeling they would stay local
with their choice
Quote from: Rossie11 on April 27, 2012, 01:24:37 PM
Only a tenner. Had a feeling they would stay local
with their choice
Lump the winnings on Liverpool winning next weekend.
Tap water for the weekend awaits so!!!
Quote from: Rossie11 on April 27, 2012, 01:32:33 PM
Tap water for the weekend awaits so!!!
Get it while it still free.
Don't drink it in Galway unless you want a dose of crypto-sporidiosis.
Bayern 8/11
Chelsea 4/1
Chelsea too big ?.
Quote from: orangeman on April 27, 2012, 02:06:38 PM
Bayern 8/11
Chelsea 4/1
Chelsea too big ?.
Yep, I preferred it when they were midtable cannon fodder.
That's to win in 90mins
To lift the trophy:
Germans: 4/9
Guvs: 7/4
Quote from: Rossie11 on April 27, 2012, 01:02:27 PM
Mourinhos old pal Tito Vilanova announced as new manager
16/1 this morning..
Get in there. Beer for weekend paid for.. ;D
The more thigns change the more they stay the same! Can't help but think it's an excellent decision. He's been with the players for Pep's entire tenure, including the first season with the B team. He knows the players and their game inside out.
Given that he's untried and untested as a first team coach (much like Pep), it will be interesting to see how Mourinho comes out firing given their "incident" at the start of the season.
Quote from: gallsman on April 27, 2012, 04:59:37 PM
Quote from: Rossie11 on April 27, 2012, 01:02:27 PM
Mourinhos old pal Tito Vilanova announced as new manager
16/1 this morning..
Get in there. Beer for weekend paid for.. ;D
The more thigns change the more they stay the same! Can't help but think it's an excellent decision. He's been with the players for Pep's entire tenure, including the first season with the B team. He knows the players and their game inside out.
Given that he's untried and untested as a first team coach (much like Pep), it will be interesting to see how Mourinho comes out firing given their "incident" at the start of the season.
Was he the guy Mourinho poked in the eye?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 27, 2012, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 27, 2012, 04:59:37 PM
Quote from: Rossie11 on April 27, 2012, 01:02:27 PM
Mourinhos old pal Tito Vilanova announced as new manager
16/1 this morning..
Get in there. Beer for weekend paid for.. ;D
The more thigns change the more they stay the same! Can't help but think it's an excellent decision. He's been with the players for Pep's entire tenure, including the first season with the B team. He knows the players and their game inside out.
Given that he's untried and untested as a first team coach (much like Pep), it will be interesting to see how Mourinho comes out firing given their "incident" at the start of the season.
Was he the guy Mourinho poked in the eye?
Yes.
German cup final today Borussia Dortmund 5 Bayern Munich 2. Dortmund have won their first ever domestic double. Two teams in the champions league final that are far for the best in Europe.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 12, 2012, 08:56:07 PM
German cup final today Borussia Dortmund 5 Bayern Munich 2. Dortmund have won their first ever domestic double. Two teams in the champions league final that are far for the best in Europe.
Bayern are very close to being the best in Europe, if they beat Dortmund today would you say they were the best in Europe? A match I would say they were as interested in as Chelsea were against Liverpool the other night.
Quote from: Minder on May 12, 2012, 09:19:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 12, 2012, 08:56:07 PM
German cup final today Borussia Dortmund 5 Bayern Munich 2. Dortmund have won their first ever domestic double. Two teams in the champions league final that are far for the best in Europe.
Bayern are very close to being the best in Europe, if they beat Dortmund today would you say they were the best in Europe? A match I would say they were as interested in as Chelsea were against Liverpool the other night.
Bayern Munich didn't rest players tonight like Chelsea did v Liverpool and the Bundesliga league explain why Borussia finished eight points ahead of Bayern Munich.
Well this thread would have more activity if Arsenal,Liverpool or Man United were in the final. Are the Chelsea fans here in Munich?
Apparently every time a European final has been played in Munich a new name was added to the European cup can history repeat itself. The way Chelsea came through the Barca games maybe their name is on the Cup already? playing at home is advantage but it also brings it's own pressure.
Bayern should win this but the odds on Chelsea are very tempting. After watching United play in 3 of the last 4 finals it's a change to sit back relax & not care who wins i just hope it a good game.
I hope Munich win so as to give Spurs the place they deserve in the CL. I also fancy Munich to win 2-0. Must check the odds on such.
Quote from: EC Unique on May 18, 2012, 08:39:04 PM
I hope Munich win so as to give Spurs the place they deserve in the CL. I also fancy Munich to win 2-0. Must check the odds on such.
That and to see the bould John Terry cry with his best suit on!
Why are the Bayern fans singing Shit on the Villa? ;D
Chelsea defending well starting to frustrate Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich 1-0 up Cech should have done better.
Spurs fans everywhere celebrate.
1-1 extra time by the looks of it.
Some goal.
FFS, some header
Spurs fans everywhere have their heads in their hands.
Muller taken off to defend a lead. A late from Drogba. An early extra time penalty miss by Robben. Ribery gone off.
Has to be Chelseas night. On sudden death penos.
Are Chelsea going to lose another Champions league final on penalties or can they win it?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 19, 2012, 10:00:21 PM
Are Chelsea going to lose another Champions league final on penalties or can they win it?
Great post.
Peanlty shoot-out. Anyones to win.
2008 Manchester United v Chelsea or Liverpool v Roma 1984 revisited?
Chelsea European champions :o :o
fair play to Chelski they hung on in there, but John terry is still a hateful ballix
Fair fcuks Chelsea, fcuk the begrudgers, Champions of Europe.
Do I not like that
Quote from: ross4life on May 18, 2012, 08:09:58 PM
Apparently every time a European final has been played in Munich a new name was added to the European cup can history repeat itself. The way Chelsea came through the Barca games maybe their name is on the Cup already?
A another new name added in Munich.
On the balance of play best team on the night lost but for sheer work rate & never giving up it's a deserved CL win for Chelsea. To all the Chelsea fans here enjoy! a night you'll never forget.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on May 19, 2012, 10:32:29 PM
Spurs followers will be sick. :o
Where's Tony when you need him? Congrats to Chelski.
Having witnessed Chelsea defend their way to a CL trophy, Man City have announced Jim McGuinness will be managing them next year.
dont particularly like chelsea but fair play to them - they kept plugging away. just shows how far commitment, organisation and discipline can get you. the bayern manager should be sacked for hauling muller - muller was the best player on the park in the 2nd half. wtf was he thinking? he should have hooked ribery or robben who were having stinkers. also if robben didnt want to take a pen against casillas what was he doing taking one against cech?
BTW congrats to norf tyrone!
5th English club to win the big one, first from London.
Delighted to see them win. Well done
But will Abramhavic be happy? Well done Chelsea. DiMatteo for England manager after the Euros.
Good to see the little guys win one.
'Arry will not be feeling triffic after that.
whatever chelsea do next - they need to keep di matteo and drogba.
Yes boys. The premier league is a bad leage. Lol.
Quote from: EC Unique on May 19, 2012, 11:14:21 PM
Yes boys. The premier league is a bad leage. Lol.
It was great last week
Quote from: Minder on May 19, 2012, 11:18:24 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 19, 2012, 11:14:21 PM
Yes boys. The premier league is a bad leage. Lol.
It was great last week
Has Chelsea's European cup win overshadowed Manchester City's league success?
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 19, 2012, 11:21:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 19, 2012, 11:18:24 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 19, 2012, 11:14:21 PM
Yes boys. The premier league is a bad leage. Lol.
It was great last week
Has Chelsea's European cup win overshadowed Manchester City's league success?
Only for Man U fans.
There were only two clubs pissed off that Chelsea won tonight - Bayern Munich and Tottenham Hotspur. Man Utd have not thought of the competition since before Christmas.
it was written in the stars, just meant to be this year, their worst team in maybe 10yrs and they bring the big one home, munich be sick but it was nice to see them win after numerous semi finals defeats with lesser teams than them when they had a great team,
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 19, 2012, 11:59:56 PM
There were only two clubs pissed off that Chelsea won tonight - Bayern Munich and Tottenham Hotspur. Man Utd have not thought of the competition since before Christmas.
Why bring Utd into it?
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Quote from: From the Bunker on May 19, 2012, 11:59:56 PM
There were only two clubs pissed off that Chelsea won tonight - Bayern Munich and Tottenham Hotspur. Man Utd have not thought of the competition since before Christmas.
Why bring Utd into it?
I was actually trying to take them outta it! Look at Quote above my reply.
Quote from: laoislad on May 19, 2012, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 19, 2012, 11:21:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 19, 2012, 11:18:24 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 19, 2012, 11:14:21 PM
Yes boys. The premier league is a bad leage. Lol.
It was great last week
Has Chelsea's European cup win overshadowed Manchester City's league success?
Only for Man U fans.
That was daylight robbery in terms of general play but Bayern were brutal in the Chelsea penalty area. 9 out of 10 for their performance outside the penalty area 2 out of 10 for their work inside the box.
I thought Liverpool were a bit jammy in the 2005 final but they had nothing on Chelsea who were unbelievably jammy over 3 entire games between Barcelona and Bayern who between them missed countless chances. It just seemed that Chelsea's name was on the cup from way out.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2012, 03:51:00 AM
I thought Liverpool were a bit jammy in the 2005 final but they had nothing on Chelsea who were unbelievably jammy over 3 entire games between Barcelona and Bayern who between them missed countless chances. It just seemed that Chelsea's name was on the cup from way out.
Bollocks, they earned their way in the semi final with a tremendous performance at the toughest place to play in the world in the second leg and were playing a CL final against the home team, they rode their luck but your comments would have more credence if you had stated it prior to the final.
Football is like that, you can defend and play a negative style, hit teams on the break and win, it is part of the game and it is not Chelsea's fault Bayern dunged the togs from 25 yards in!
delighted for di matteo. glad to see chelsea win. just seemed to be written in the stars.
Quote from: stew on May 20, 2012, 05:13:35 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2012, 03:51:00 AM
I thought Liverpool were a bit jammy in the 2005 final but they had nothing on Chelsea who were unbelievably jammy over 3 entire games between Barcelona and Bayern who between them missed countless chances. It just seemed that Chelsea's name was on the cup from way out.
Bollocks, they earned their way in the semi final with a tremendous performance at the toughest place to play in the world in the second leg and were playing a CL final against the home team, they rode their luck but your comments would have more credence if you had stated it prior to the final.
Football is like that, you can defend and play a negative style, hit teams on the break and win, it is part of the game and it is not Chelsea's fault Bayern dunged the togs from 25 yards in!
Nail on head. I'm not a Chelsea fan by any means but they had a game plan & stuck to it. Di Matteo has done a wonderful job in his time there and I don't see how Abramovich can offer the job ( at least in the short term) to anyone else.
On another note however, I wonder now that he has his ECL ambition achieved will Abramovich be inclined to bankroll another spending spree? This is an ageing Chelsea team and whoever is in charge for the for-seeable future will have to spend an incredible amount of money just to hang onto Man City's coattails. Just a thought like. ::)
Quote from: ziggy90 on May 20, 2012, 09:16:18 AM
Nail on head. I'm not a Chelsea fan by any means but they had a game plan & stuck to it. Di Matteo has done a wonderful job in his time there and I don't see how Abramovich can offer the job ( at least in the short term) to anyone else.
On another note however, I wonder now that he has his ECL ambition achieved will Abramovich be inclined to bankroll another spending spree? This is an ageing Chelsea team and whoever is in charge for the for-seeable future will have to spend an incredible amount of money just to hang onto Man City's coattails. Just a thought like. ::)
Was thinking something similiar myself. Is Abramovich a Chelsea fan for life or will he get bored and move on to another billionaire plaything?This was the last big kick for a lot of this Chelsea team and it is hard to begrudge the likes of Cole,Lampard,Cech and Drogba their EC medals.
As Christian Nerlinger said, if that brand of football wins titles then the future of European football is bleak. Indebted by Rangers and now perfected by Chelsea.
Quote from: StGallsGAA on May 20, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
As Christian Nerlinger said, if that brand of football wins titles then the future of European football is bleak. Indebted by Rangers and now perfected by Chelsea.
You don't think he would be a bit biased ?
Chelsea without several starters due to suspension, what would you have done?
They did what they had to do.
Your last line says it all, indeed if you replaced the blue shirts for green and white hoops you'd be claiming it was the stuff of legends!
Quote from: Bensars on May 20, 2012, 11:51:43 AM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on May 20, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
As Christian Nerlinger said, if that brand of football wins titles then the future of European football is bleak. Indebted by Rangers and now perfected by Chelsea.
You don't think he would be a bit biased ?
Chelsea without several starters due to suspension, what would you have done?
They did what they had to do.
Your last line says it all, indeed if you replaced the blue shirts for green and white hoops you'd be claiming it was the stuff of legends!
Nail on head
I felt sorry for Schweini. He bottled it after Neuer did so well.
but Bayern had the penalty to win it in XT AND they scored after 82 mins and still only got the draw.
chelsea cost abramovic in excess of GBp 1 bn. Something seriously wrong there.
What did you's think of the egotistical tr**p that is Bosingwa?
He wouldnt f off and let the captains lift the trophey--he stayed in front and then when it was lifted he put his hands up and grabbed the bottom of it making it look like he was lifting it. Drogba and Terry should have hit him. What a selfish wee bollix
He's nothin
Quote from: Gold on May 20, 2012, 02:09:58 PM
What did you's think of the egotistical tr**p that is Bosingwa?
He wouldnt f off and let the captains lift the trophey--he stayed in front and then when it was lifted he put his hands up and grabbed the bottom of it making it look like he was lifting it. Drogba and Terry should have hit him. What a selfish wee bollix
He's nothin
Its a shit arrangement for the presentation anyway. All players and mangement stuck up on that tiny ledge! They should have it out in the middle of the pitch like what they did a few years ago. Dont blame Boswinga for doing what he did and he wasnt the only one. At least he played a part unlike one of the captains lifting it!! Also what was the point of Terry wearing his kit??
Quote from: tyroneboi on May 20, 2012, 02:18:54 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 20, 2012, 02:09:58 PM
What did you's think of the egotistical tr**p that is Bosingwa?
He wouldnt f off and let the captains lift the trophey--he stayed in front and then when it was lifted he put his hands up and grabbed the bottom of it making it look like he was lifting it. Drogba and Terry should have hit him. What a selfish wee bollix
He's nothin
Its a shit arrangement for the presentation anyway. All players and mangement stuck up on that tiny ledge! They should have it out in the middle of the pitch like what they did a few years ago. Dont blame Boswinga for doing what he did and he wasnt the only one. At least he played a part unlike one of the captains lifting it!! Also what was the point of Terry wearing his kit??
The suspended captain, wore his full kit for the celebrations, apparently including shin pads. The reason for this is simple, he wanted to look the proper part for the photos in years to come. Have to say i was delighted he was covered lifting the Trophy.
I may be one or two out, but here's stats:
BM scored from their 16th corner; in the 85th minute
Chl $$$$ scored from their first corner in the 88th minute.
If my son ever troubles me again going to sleep, I know which team I'm going to allow him to watch in bed:
And don't say "it's goals blah blah blah" etc, if you like soccer, then that final would have been a real off putter for most neutrals and / or purists.
Quote from: ardal on May 20, 2012, 08:07:51 PM
I may be one or two out, but here's stats:
BM scored from their 16th corner; in the 85th minute
Chl $$$$ scored from their first corner in the 88th minute.
If my son ever troubles me again going to sleep, I know which team I'm going to allow him to watch in bed:
And don't say "it's goals blah blah blah" etc, if you like soccer, then that final would have been a real off putter for most neutrals and / or purists.
That's what I think. Chelsea have been the 2nd best team for both the semi-final and final. They never tried to play football and rode their luck to the very limit. They might have won but don't ask me to applaud their approach to the game.
Was watching it in a bar and didn't see a second replay but was Ribery's disallowed goal onside?
It was nice to see Uli Hoeness with a big puss on him after the match. He won everything in the game and was expecting to win the CL at home and said as much in the German papers . Bayern are even worse than Man Utd in terms of arrogance even if they don't have a stadium known as the theatre of dreams.
Bayern ended up winning nothing at all this season.
Can anyone tell me what lampard did over the two hours?
I can't remember him being mentioned much.
sc**bag terry had an opportunity to apologise to his team mates and fans but didnt take it.
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 20, 2012, 09:02:33 PM
Was watching it in a bar and didn't see a second replay but was Ribery's disallowed goal onside?
Definitely offside by couple of feet maybe.
Did the big sulk (Torres) not want to take a peno? Seemed to be having a row with Roberto before the shoot out?
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 20, 2012, 03:01:59 PM
The suspended captain, wore his full kit for the celebrations, apparently including shin pads. The reason for this is simple, he wanted to look the proper part for the photos in years to come. Have to say i was delighted he was covered lifting the Trophy.
Yes that was quite funny. It a disgrace he was allowed to lift it though. I wouldn't have let him near the pitch. sc**bag.
How in the f**k did those sc**bag bastards win that trophy? Anti football hoors, never hear the f**king end of it for months now. England getting humped out at the group stages in the Euro`s will bring them down a peg or two
Quote from: Forever Green on May 21, 2012, 12:27:31 AM
How in the f**k did those sc**bag b**tards win that trophy? Anti football hoors, never hear the f**king end of it for months now. England getting humped out at the group stages in the Euro`s will bring them down a peg or two
Chelsea Football Club...Champions of Europe 2012!
In much the same way as Donegal won Ulster last year, they don't give a shite what their football looks like. As long as they're sitting with the trophy come the end of the year, that's all that matters.
It's hard to watch, but if it's effective and Chelsea win the Champions League over the head of it then fair play to them. Some dung being spewed online about the way Scholes and Keane behaved compared to Terry after not playing any part in their CL final. Has no-one ever noticed that Keane and Scholes are two boring c***ts? And if memory serves me right I remember them lifting it in their grey suits flanked by the rest of the team anyway.
I'm sure Ivanovic and Ramires (and Hilario) were in their full kit too, but there won't be a word about them!
Quote from: screenmachine on May 21, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
In much the same way as Donegal won Ulster last year, they don't give a shite what their football looks like. As long as they're sitting with the trophy come the end of the year, that's all that matters.
It's hard to watch, but if it's effective and Chelsea win the Champions League over the head of it then fair play to them. Some dung being spewed online about the way Scholes and Keane behaved compared to Terry after not playing any part in their CL final. Has no-one ever noticed that Keane and Scholes are two boring c***ts? And if memory serves me right I remember them lifting it in their grey suits flanked by the rest of the team anyway.
On the pitch in the aftermath celebrations not dressing up like they had played the game so they would look good in the press etc serious ego issues.
Chelsea are the worst team in years to win the Champions League, they most certainly aren't even the best team in England, let alone Europe. Barca and Bayern though have only themselves to blame. When you create and miss as many chances as they both did then you inevitably lose. It is good that the title goes around though keeps up the interest. It's just a pity that Terry has got his mitts on a medal. Fair play to Chelsea European Champions but the two best teams in Europe where sitting at home.
Quote from: screenmachine on May 21, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
In much the same way as Donegal won Ulster last year, they don't give a shite what their football looks like. As long as they're sitting with the trophy come the end of the year, that's all that matters.
It's hard to watch, but if it's effective and Chelsea win the Champions League over the head of it then fair play to them. Some dung being spewed online about the way Scholes and Keane behaved compared to Terry after not playing any part in their CL final. Has no-one ever noticed that Keane and Scholes are two boring c***ts? And if memory serves me right I remember them lifting it in their grey suits flanked by the rest of the team anyway.
A slight difference between Keane and Terry, Keane got a booking in a performance that carried United through, Terry got red carded for a dirty knee in the back, and I'm not a United fan...
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2012, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: screenmachine on May 21, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
Has no-one ever noticed that Keane and Scholes are two boring c***ts?
WTF has that got to do with anything?
Have heard Keane called a lot of things over the years, boring not being one of them though
Keane and Scholes held up the Trophy away from the podium. As more a jesture to the travelling fans. Both were clearly disappointed not to have played. Check out 9:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og9zjkH5k_E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og9zjkH5k_E)
I heard John Salako on spouting on Sky Sports News yesterday too about Gary Neville Keane lifting the Cup in 1999 for United when it was Schmeichel.
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2012, 09:31:01 AM
Could it be that David Luiz and Gary Cahill will anchor Chelsea's defence to CL glory :o
Amazingly "yes" is the answer!
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Has no-one ever noticed that Keane and Scholes are two boring c***ts?
WTF has that got to do with anything?
They just seem to be two grumpy old characters who stay away from the limelight and seem quite boring in general in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, just that they're rather boring, that's all.
Whilst you can't argue that Terry is a bit of a knob and his a long list of misdemeanour's, I just don't see the problem with him getting togged out to lift a trophy. If anyone else done it (like the three or four other Chelsea players) there wouldn't have been a word about it.
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 21, 2012, 10:03:52 AM
Chelsea are the worst team in years to win the Champions League, they most certainly aren't even the best team in England, let alone Europe. Barca and Bayern though have only themselves to blame. When you create and miss as many chances as they both did then you inevitably lose. It is good that the title goes around though keeps up the interest. It's just a pity that Terry has got his mitts on a medal. Fair play to Chelsea European Champions but the two best teams in Europe where sitting at home.
It was a mistake to replace Thomas Müller with a defender after Bayern scored the goal.
I think he would have been their best chance of a goal from play in extra time and he was on the sideline.
Quote from: screenmachine on May 21, 2012, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2012, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: screenmachine on May 21, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
Has no-one ever noticed that Keane and Scholes are two boring c***ts?
WTF has that got to do with anything?
They just seem to be two grumpy old characters who stay away from the limelight and seem quite boring in general in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, just that they're rather boring, that's all.
Whilst you can't argue that Terry is a bit of a knob and his a long list of misdemeanour's, I just don't see the problem with him getting togged out to lift a trophy. If anyone else done it (like the three or four other Chelsea players) there wouldn't have been a word about it.
In fact Ivanovic was running around at the end waving the Serbia flag and climbed up the goal posts. You can imagine the fury had Terry been running around with the St George flag!! It looked to me like possibly the whole Chelsea squad were togged out as I definitely saw Hilario in full keeper's get up and he wasn't a sub.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 21, 2012, 10:37:31 AM
Keane and Scholes held up the Trophy away from the podium. As more a jesture to the travelling fans. Both were clearly disappointed not to have played. Check out 9:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og9zjkH5k_E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og9zjkH5k_E)
Enjoyed that Bunker, cheers!! If I was them lads who were suspended I think I would have wore my kit that day too. For all this disappointment of not playing it would have made it feel like you were more involved.
Quote from: oakleafgael on May 20, 2012, 09:02:33 PM
Was watching it in a bar and didn't see a second replay but was Ribery's disallowed goal onside?
No. Definitely off.
So, had Roy Keane wanted to lift the trophy in 1999 while suspended, he could have done?
I remember hearing at the time though, that Keane and Scholes had to be coaxed by their team-mates to join in with the celebrations on the pitch. Meanwhile, sc**bag Terry puts on his kit and lifts the trophy. As mentioned earlier, serious ego issues.
What about the other players who wore their kits and drapped themselves in their countries flags? Perhaps them all kitting up was the managers idea, increasing the team psyche etc. My major gripe is this sh1t where players wear their shirts back to front, now that is egotistical!
There are people posting with incredulity about the egotistical nature of "soccer stars". Incredulous.
Quote from: BennyCake on May 21, 2012, 03:37:32 PM
So, had Roy Keane wanted to lift the trophy in 1999 while suspended, he could have done?
I remember hearing at the time though, that Keane and Scholes had to be coaxed by their team-mates to join in with the celebrations on the pitch. Meanwhile, sc**bag Terry puts on his kit and lifts the trophy. As mentioned earlier, serious ego issues.
It seems all 25 (I think) members of the Champions League squad were kitted out at the end. OK, a bit odd of Terry to wear shinpads, but I
think I spotted Hilario with goalkeeping gloves on at one point which is a bit strange considering he wasn't a sub. Chelsea asked UEFA's permission for Terry to collect the cup with Lampard. UEFA agreed...they could have said no? Terry may not be everyone's idea of an upstanding member of society but he has been integral to Chelsea's success over the past eight years and personally I don't see the problem with him making a bit of a fool of himself in a fairly harmless way...for once.
Tom Daley won gold at the European Diving Championships. John Terry turned up in his speedos to collect the medal.
"@sickipediabot: John Terry is going to his daughter's sports day this week. He's wearing his full PE kit in case she wins."
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/522810_10150917543669101_127256559100_9644533_1122195764_n.jpg)
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again.
Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again. Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Man City V Man Utd 1st may 2012. Man Utd zero shots on target. Generally accepted that Ferguson got the tactics wrong and went with a defensive selection in hope of draw.
I see Jose has signed a new contract at real Madrid. Would have to fancy them for next years CL.
Quote from: Bensars on May 22, 2012, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again. Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Man City V Man Utd 1st may 2012. Man Utd zero shots on target. Generally accepted that Ferguson got the tactics wrong and went with a defensive selection in hope of draw.
Not the same thing at all. The same tactics have been used previously to great success in big away games United have won. It's a counter attacking style as opposed to parking the bus. The system fell down completely because the central man to the gameplan, Park, was on a nightmare and whenever the ball got up to Rooney he had zero support (after the first 10-15 minutes). That's what actually happened. It's as negative as Ferguson goes granted but light years ahead of what the rent were at.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 02:13:53 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 22, 2012, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again. Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Man City V Man Utd 1st may 2012. Man Utd zero shots on target. Generally accepted that Ferguson got the tactics wrong and went with a defensive selection in hope of draw.
Not the same thing at all. The same tactics have been used previously to great success in big away games United have won. It's a counter attacking style as opposed to parking the bus. The system fell down completely because the central man to the gameplan, Park, was on a nightmare and whenever the ball got up to Rooney he had zero support (after the first 10-15 minutes). That's what actually happened. It's as negative as Ferguson goes granted but light years ahead of what the rent were at.
Emmm, this
was a big away game for Chelsea, they were playing Bayern Munich in their own stadium.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again.
Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Those grapes a wee bit sour Seanie??
They're really going to town with this now...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/twitters-best-john-terry-jokes-841672
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again.
Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Those grapes a wee bit sour Seanie??
Just being honest and I'm not alone I'd say.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again.
Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Your hole. I'm no Chelsea fan but it's funny to se the sour grapes of United fans.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again.
Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Those grapes a wee bit sour Seanie??
Just being honest and I'm not alone I'd say.
What exactly is a "lack of class"??
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again.
Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Those grapes a wee bit sour Seanie??
Just being honest and I'm not alone I'd say.
What exactly is a "lack of class"??
That explains a lot.
I'll probably kick myself for getting dragged into this, but Seanie you are unusually bitter. Usually you rise above that s***e, so in the interests of debate.
You talk about Chelsea's negative football, but fail to see any window of how tactically superb they've been since Di Matteo took over, and note the 4 v Napoli, the 5 v Spurs and the 6 v QPR to illustrate the ability to be offensive as well. Indeed Di Matteo played Barcelona superbly, and got their reward a tactic that Ferguson may well see fit to replicate. When Chelsea needed goals, or needed to attack he set his team out accordingly and got just reward.
Take the 2 legs v Barce, and the Bayern game, and answer me this what would you have done differently? Against Barce (In my opinion, the greatest side I've ever seen), Chelsea defended superbly over 180 minutes despite every thing that went again them.
In the final v Bayern, Chelsea have 4 players suspended, a centre back pairing that played together once before and had been injured for 6 weeks, played away from home, missed the pace of the suspended Ramires and to a lesser degree Malouda, therefore lacked an 'out' ball, had to field a rookie left winger, and had to think how do I protect the right back position against one of the best left wingers in the world.
What tactics would you employ? What team would you have sent out?
It's probably a good job United lost in 2011 ("This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again"), because if I recall United were more on the backfoot in that final than Chelsea were in 2012. Last year on the road to Wembley, United scored 18, this year Chelsea scored 24.
Even in stat terms at the final, Chelsea had more posession than United did in the 2011 final, more shots on target, more shots off target, and our corner count of a MASSIVE 1, was more than United's too!!! So is that the United teddy in the bin I see?
Re the JT thing, I think it's pathetic. I can understand the anti JT stuff, but this is unreal. People say look at Keane, and Scholes. If they really didn't feel part of it, why come onto the pitch and lift the trophy at all??
If JT had've stood at the side of the pitch in his suit during the celebrations, everyone would've said, look at the shape of him pouring cold water on things, and making it all about him! I can guarantee that!
That's all reasonable NT, but why did he feel the need to put on his full kit, down to the Shin Pads? It looks like he's just wanting to be in the photos in full kit, so that in years to come people will forget he was suspended!
To be honest, I think he played as big a part as anyone in winning the trophy, and I'm not sure I'd have even noticed if he was in his suit, and joining in with the celebrations of the rest of the players, like every other winning team I've ever seen.
It just looked, to a neutral, like he wanted to pretend that he'd played the game. I mean shinpads?
Did he?
(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/John+Terry+FC+Bayern+Muenchen+v+Chelsea+FC+iPRinPgmKS4l.jpg)
Apologies if he didn't, the full kit is bad enough though.
I heard Ken Early on Newstalk going on about the shin pads, and this I saw as well. But he's not wearing them in that photo, so might be a load of nonsense. Sill, he is wearing full kit and boots!
QuoteJohn Terry is never far from controversy - even when he hasn't kicked a ball.
To his immense frustration, the Chelsea captain was forced to watch the Champions League final from the stands, suited and booted, after being suspended.
But he by no means let that disappointment cloud his victory celebrations when he suddenly appeared in full club kit, complete with shin pads, to lift the European Cup.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147522/John-Terry-lampooned-online-Chelsea-captain-lifted-Champions-League-trophy-kit-shinpads-despite-banned-final.html#ixzz1vcEMLDEy
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 22, 2012, 04:57:12 PM
Re the JT thing, I think it's pathetic. I can understand the anti JT stuff, but this is unreal. People say look at Keane, and Scholes. If they really didn't feel part of it, why come onto the pitch and lift the trophy at all??
If JT had've stood at the side of the pitch in his suit during the celebrations, everyone would've said, look at the shape of him pouring cold water on things, and making it all about him! I can guarantee that!
You're right, they would have. This is because many people think John Terry is a horrible human being, and anything he does confirms that. QED.
Lads he's a ****, in fact he's 2 sides of a **** but give it a fecking rest. He is as stupid as the day is long and if he wanted to "feel" part of it fair enough. I don't like him as a human being but in his Chelsea career the bastard has done more than most to keep those plastics up at the top of the tree. Classless and clueless he may be but it's as much his party as it was the lads who played. Move on.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
Pretty disappointed they won it. Really do not like Abramovich and hoped he would never get his hands on the European Cup. Ditto with Terry and frankly his carry on shows a lack of class (that applies to the other players who weren't part of the squad too though none of them had the cheek to go up to life the trophy).
This will be controversial but I'll say it anyway - if United played like that to win a trophy I wouldn't be bothered with watching them again.
Not a Spurs fan but they do not deserve to lose the CL place they earned over 38 games.
Those grapes a wee bit sour Seanie??
Just being honest and I'm not alone I'd say.
What exactly is a "lack of class"??
That explains a lot.
And that is not an answer
I don't like John Terry, I would rather have seen Bayern win. I don't think he should have been allowed to accept the trophy, but UEFA thought otherwise. If he did it in his Chelsea gear so what. If he was wearing shinpads and boots then that's a bit odd but he is after all an overpampered pooch living in another universe.
NT - we'll agree to differ but you can put your stats in the bin cos United never set out to defend, defend, defend in those recent CL finals like Chelsea did - absolutely not. United were second best to a great side in last years final but played 2 strikers (on the pitch at the same time) and tried to use the counter attack with Hernandez pace. It didn't work because they couldn't win the ball in midfield, Barca's passing was too good.
Also - despite your sob story about one of the most expensive squads assembled, remember Chelsea were playing a side that didn't win their own league and got thumped 5-2 in the German Cup final.
Oh yeah - its also easier to win the CL when you don't have to put in full effort into your league matches.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
NT - we'll agree to differ but you can put your stats in the bin cos United never set out to defend, defend, defend in those recent CL finals like Chelsea did - absolutely not. United were second best to a great side in last years final but played 2 strikers (on the pitch at the same time) and tried to use the counter attack with Hernandez pace. It didn't work because they couldn't win the ball in midfield, Barca's passing was too good.
Also - despite your sob story about one of the most expensive squads assembled, remember Chelsea were playing a side that didn't win their own league and got thumped 5-2 in the German Cup final.
Oh yeah - its also easier to win the CL when you don't have to put in full effort into your league matches.
Keep digging seanie.
I doubt if United had parked two buses V Barca, not got a kick of the ball and nicked one from a corner in fergie time of extra time and beat Barca, you and many others would be hailing it as another Fergie masterclass. Probably with added mind games.
Chelsea where not pretty but it was very effective and got the job done. I don't think Ronan will care in this instance but going forward I'm sure he'll look for more adventure and thats why I don't think he will fill the managers role elsewhere. One other possibility is that he will happily leave Di Matteo there for 1 year having approached Pep about having a year rest and then coming in to do a job at Chelsea.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 22, 2012, 05:32:09 PM
Lads he's a ****, in fact he's 2 sides of a **** but give it a fecking rest. He is as stupid as the day is long and if he wanted to "feel" part of it fair enough. I don't like him as a human being but in his Chelsea career the b**tard has done more than most to keep those plastics up at the top of the tree. Classless and clueless he may be but it's as much his party as it was the lads who played. Move on.
And deny us all the Photoshopped images of him turning up at famous events?
Actually, moving on is probably good advice
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 22, 2012, 05:32:09 PM
Lads he's a ****, in fact he's 2 sides of a **** but give it a fecking rest. He is as stupid as the day is long and if he wanted to "feel" part of it fair enough. I don't like him as a human being but in his Chelsea career the b**tard has done more than most to keep those plastics up at the top of the tree. Classless and clueless he may be but it's as much his party as it was the lads who played. Move on.
Solid advice.
Quote from: Bingo on May 23, 2012, 10:10:04 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
NT - we'll agree to differ but you can put your stats in the bin cos United never set out to defend, defend, defend in those recent CL finals like Chelsea did - absolutely not. United were second best to a great side in last years final but played 2 strikers (on the pitch at the same time) and tried to use the counter attack with Hernandez pace. It didn't work because they couldn't win the ball in midfield, Barca's passing was too good.
Also - despite your sob story about one of the most expensive squads assembled, remember Chelsea were playing a side that didn't win their own league and got thumped 5-2 in the German Cup final.
Oh yeah - its also easier to win the CL when you don't have to put in full effort into your league matches.
Keep digging seanie.
I doubt if United had parked two buses V Barca, not got a kick of the ball and nicked one from a corner in fergie time of extra time and beat Barca, you and many others would be hailing it as another Fergie masterclass. Probably with added mind games.
Chelsea where not pretty but it was very effective and got the job done. I don't think Ronan will care in this instance but going forward I'm sure he'll look for more adventure and thats why I don't think he will fill the managers role elsewhere. One other possibility is that he will happily leave Di Matteo there for 1 year having approached Pep about having a year rest and then coming in to do a job at Chelsea.
I'm sure you mean Roman but it all brings into the spotlight his disgraceful treatment of Mourinho doesn't it?
Did Mourinho win the champions league?
Yes he did. With Inter and Porto.
Quote from: ziggy90 on May 23, 2012, 11:00:24 AM
Did Mourinho win the champions league?
AZ beat me to it - he has won it twice.
Ha, f**king ha, you were talking about his treatment by Abramovich. If you want to get into puerile arguments I'd suggest you keep your bile for suitable threads. Chelsea won the CL fair and square, grow a set.
Chelsea weren't that pretty to watch and they got a fierce slice of luck to win the last 3 games but I don't remember Man U or the pool waltzing their way to the CL. Smicer's goal, winning on penalties, Terry's miss and the 2 goals in injury time in '99? Time to get the chip off your shoulder, Man United's and Liverpool were as undeserving of their titles if you were to measure them by the current criticism of Chelski's finest.
I hope you're not saying I have a chip on my shoulder about it? I'm happy for the likes of Cech, Lampard and a few others that they won it. I'm delighted for Di Matteo.
I don't have a major problem with their approach to be honest, and in fact despite that approach, Barcelona and Munich had more than enough chances to win their respective ties in any case. Chelsea held firm, and did the business, so fair play to them.
Quote from: trileacman on May 23, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
Chelsea weren't that pretty to watch and they got a fierce slice of luck to win the last 3 games but I don't remember Man U or the pool waltzing their way to the CL. Smicer's goal, winning on penalties, Terry's miss and the 2 goals in injury time in '99? Time to get the chip off your shoulder, Man United's and Liverpool were as undeserving of their titles if you were to measure them by the current criticism of Chelski's finest.
Injury time is part of the game (as evidenced by Manchester City most recently) and even though United played poorly in that final in '99 they were undefeated in the tournament and scored a record number of goals. Some people only remember the final but forget how good United were in that competition as a whole. Any comparison with the current winners or indeed Liverpool in 2005 is a bit of a joke.
Liverpool in 2005 were very good too Seanie :) You're just remembering 45 minutes of poor performance.
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 23, 2012, 11:36:24 AM
I hope you're not saying I have a chip on my shoulder about it? I'm happy for the likes of Cech, Lampard and a few others that they won it. I'm delighted for Di Matteo.
I don't have a major problem with their approach to be honest, and in fact despite that approach, Barcelona and Munich had more than enough chances to win their respective ties in any case. Chelsea held firm, and did the business, so fair play to them.
It's not really directed at anyone in particular.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 23, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
Chelsea weren't that pretty to watch and they got a fierce slice of luck to win the last 3 games but I don't remember Man U or the pool waltzing their way to the CL. Smicer's goal, winning on penalties, Terry's miss and the 2 goals in injury time in '99? Time to get the chip off your shoulder, Man United's and Liverpool were as undeserving of their titles if you were to measure them by the current criticism of Chelski's finest.
Injury time is part of the game (as evidenced by Manchester City most recently) and even though United played poorly in that final in '99 they were undefeated in the tournament and scored a record number of goals. Some people only remember the final but forget how good United were in that competition as a whole. Any comparison with the current winners or indeed Liverpool in 2005 is a bit of a joke.
And what about 2008? Miles ahead of this current team?
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 23, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
Chelsea weren't that pretty to watch and they got a fierce slice of luck to win the last 3 games but I don't remember Man U or the pool waltzing their way to the CL. Smicer's goal, winning on penalties, Terry's miss and the 2 goals in injury time in '99? Time to get the chip off your shoulder, Man United's and Liverpool were as undeserving of their titles if you were to measure them by the current criticism of Chelski's finest.
Injury time is part of the game (as evidenced by Manchester City most recently) and even though United played poorly in that final in '99 they were undefeated in the tournament and scored a record number of goals. Some people only remember the final but forget how good United were in that competition as a whole. Any comparison with the current winners or indeed Liverpool in 2005 is a bit of a joke.
From Wiki:
"Man Utd won the trophy without losing a single game, despite having competed in a group with Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Brøndby plus two highly-rated Italian clubs in the knock-out stages.
However, United became champions with just five wins in total, the lowest number of wins recorded by a champion in the Champions League era to date". You're right, I had forgotten how good they were! ;)
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 23, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
Chelsea weren't that pretty to watch and they got a fierce slice of luck to win the last 3 games but I don't remember Man U or the pool waltzing their way to the CL. Smicer's goal, winning on penalties, Terry's miss and the 2 goals in injury time in '99? Time to get the chip off your shoulder, Man United's and Liverpool were as undeserving of their titles if you were to measure them by the current criticism of Chelski's finest.
Injury time is part of the game (as evidenced by Manchester City most recently) and even though United played poorly in that final in '99 they were undefeated in the tournament and scored a record number of goals. Some people only remember the final but forget how good United were in that competition as a whole. Any comparison with the current winners or indeed Liverpool in 2005 is a bit of a joke.
utd rode their luck throughout the campaign in 1999 as well.
2 examples are:
inter should have got about 3 penalties in the san siro but the ref bottled every one of them. fergies pasta jibe about italians seemed to have done the trick.
juventus should have been out of sight at old trafford before giggs scored an injury time goal. zidane in particular missed a glorious chance to wrap it up.
With a prize like the champions league it matters not how you win it. Currently a big shiny cup resides in London and that is all that matters. Fair play to Chelsea.
Quote from: EC Unique on May 23, 2012, 01:41:14 PM
With a prize like the champions league it matters not how you win it. Currently a big shiny cup resides in London and that is all that matters. Fair play to Chelsea.
Probably the most sensible thing you ever posted. Had someone hacked your account?
Quote from: EC Unique on May 23, 2012, 01:41:14 PM
With a prize like the champions league it matters not how you win it. Currently a big shiny cup resides in London and that is all that matters. Fair play to Chelsea.
Exactly. Now time to move on to Chelsea's defence of the title. Am I right in saying Chelsea will have to go into Round 1 of the qualifying? Final is at Wembley next year to coincide with 150 years of the FA.
Quote from: AQMP on May 23, 2012, 12:55:07 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 23, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
Chelsea weren't that pretty to watch and they got a fierce slice of luck to win the last 3 games but I don't remember Man U or the pool waltzing their way to the CL. Smicer's goal, winning on penalties, Terry's miss and the 2 goals in injury time in '99? Time to get the chip off your shoulder, Man United's and Liverpool were as undeserving of their titles if you were to measure them by the current criticism of Chelski's finest.
Injury time is part of the game (as evidenced by Manchester City most recently) and even though United played poorly in that final in '99 they were undefeated in the tournament and scored a record number of goals. Some people only remember the final but forget how good United were in that competition as a whole. Any comparison with the current winners or indeed Liverpool in 2005 is a bit of a joke.
From Wiki:
"Man Utd won the trophy without losing a single game, despite having competed in a group with Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Brøndby plus two highly-rated Italian clubs in the knock-out stages. However, United became champions with just five wins in total, the lowest number of wins recorded by a champion in the Champions League era to date".
You're right, I had forgotten how good they were! ;)
Are you seriously suggesting that the 1999 Manchester United team were not that good? Seriously? Have you forgotten they also managed to win a few other trophies (only English team EVER to win the treble)? Chelsea and 'pool finished outside the CL places ffs.
Quote from: trileacman on May 23, 2012, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 23, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
Chelsea weren't that pretty to watch and they got a fierce slice of luck to win the last 3 games but I don't remember Man U or the pool waltzing their way to the CL. Smicer's goal, winning on penalties, Terry's miss and the 2 goals in injury time in '99? Time to get the chip off your shoulder, Man United's and Liverpool were as undeserving of their titles if you were to measure them by the current criticism of Chelski's finest.
Injury time is part of the game (as evidenced by Manchester City most recently) and even though United played poorly in that final in '99 they were undefeated in the tournament and scored a record number of goals. Some people only remember the final but forget how good United were in that competition as a whole. Any comparison with the current winners or indeed Liverpool in 2005 is a bit of a joke.
And what about 2008? Miles ahead of this current team?
Not sure who you are on about but I'd say yes to either scenario. The 2008 United team was excellent (solid defense, Ronaldo and Tevez banging them in) and had to be cos the 2008 Chelsea team was much better than their current team.
FFS Seanie, your comment was about how Chelsea won the CL this year. AQMP was rightly pointing out that United didn't exactly win in style in 99 either yet you didn't desert them then.
I know this has been a tough year on United fans but your comments smack of sour grapes!!
Amazingly I'm actually quite aware of what I said and what others said but if that's your interpretation maybe you should read back a wee bit. I think I've explained my position and it's not as you have understood it.
As for it being a tough year - not a bit. Tough was when it was 20+ years since a title win and relegation was a possibility.
I don't think I'm the only one reading it the way I explained.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 02:02:04 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 23, 2012, 12:55:07 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 23, 2012, 11:30:11 AM
Chelsea weren't that pretty to watch and they got a fierce slice of luck to win the last 3 games but I don't remember Man U or the pool waltzing their way to the CL. Smicer's goal, winning on penalties, Terry's miss and the 2 goals in injury time in '99? Time to get the chip off your shoulder, Man United's and Liverpool were as undeserving of their titles if you were to measure them by the current criticism of Chelski's finest.
Injury time is part of the game (as evidenced by Manchester City most recently) and even though United played poorly in that final in '99 they were undefeated in the tournament and scored a record number of goals. Some people only remember the final but forget how good United were in that competition as a whole. Any comparison with the current winners or indeed Liverpool in 2005 is a bit of a joke.
From Wiki:
"Man Utd won the trophy without losing a single game, despite having competed in a group with Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Brøndby plus two highly-rated Italian clubs in the knock-out stages. However, United became champions with just five wins in total, the lowest number of wins recorded by a champion in the Champions League era to date".
You're right, I had forgotten how good they were! ;)
Are you seriously suggesting that the 1999 Manchester United team were not that good? Seriously? Have you forgotten they also managed to win a few other trophies (only English team EVER to win the treble)? Chelsea and 'pool finished outside the CL places ffs.
You said: "Some people only remember the final but forget how good United were in that competition as a whole"
The records say Utd won five of their eleven games, (six of thirteen if you include the qualifying round), and made the knockout stages by virtue of being the second best runner up in the group stages. They were good in the knockout stages but overall they didn't break much delph (a bit like Chelsea this year)
They still won it of course and that's really the first stat people remember, just as in about 5 or 7 years time people will look back at 2012 as the year Chlesea won the CL.
I stand over what I said. United were excellent in the 1998/9 Champions League competition. Not great in the final but didn't park the bus.
I can't believe some of the spouting on here about United in 99. They were brilliant that year and unbelievably entertaining, when thinking back it was the most exciting season in Europe I have ever followed United through. The final was not their best performance (suppose missing two of their best players didn't help) but they gave the worl the most unbelievable comeback in the history of the competition to win it outright.
All this talk of Chelsea being a defensive team and being lucky to win the CL is really taking away from United shitting their togs in the PL and blowing an 8 point lead with 5 games to go in the most embarrassing collapse in the history of the sport or any sport for that matter......
Just in case anyone was forgetting............................. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 23, 2012, 03:45:13 PM
I can't believe some of the spouting on here about United in 99. They were brilliant that year and unbelievably entertaining, when thinking back it was the most exciting season in Europe I have ever followed United through. The final was not their best performance (suppose missing two of their best players didn't help) but they gave the worl the most unbelievable comeback in the history of the competition to win it outright.
I think 2005 would be up there as well.
This is laughable really, arguing who won the best ;D
A win is a win and the record books show nothing else. I happened to be in a pub on Saturday for large part of it and everyone was glued to it and was very little said of Chelsea's tactics. Surprisingly alot where happy for them. Apart from JT's appearance to lift it. But thats another argument.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 03:20:36 PM
I stand over what I said. United were excellent in the 1998/9 Champions League competition. Not great in the final but didn't park the bus.
Fair enough Seanie. Let's move on.
Quote from: AQMP on May 23, 2012, 04:17:06 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2012, 03:20:36 PM
I stand over what I said. United were excellent in the 1998/9 Champions League competition. Not great in the final but didn't park the bus.
Fair enough Seanie. Let's move on.
Yep - no problem.
United's wins in 99,08 both were superb because they were undefeated throughout the campaigns & won the PL both years as well. As for Chelsea from 2004-2012 they have been there or thereabouts in the CL probably one of the most consistent teams in the competition. A lot of bad luck like the ghost goal in 05, Norway ref vs Barca in 09 etc so if one team deserved a CL over the years it was them.
Quote from: Gazzler on May 23, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
All this talk of Chelsea being a defensive team and being lucky to win the CL is really taking away from United shitting their togs in the PL and blowing an 8 point lead with 5 games to go in the most embarrassing collapse in the history of the sport or any sport for that matter......
Just in case anyone was forgetting............................. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
You obviously have forgot quit a bit........... or obviously don't know anything about sport.
You could have, any of England's Penalty Shootouts :P, McIlroy at the Masters, Jean van de Velde at the Open in 99..... Sure Newcastle blew a bigger lead so how can Utd's be the most embarrassing?
Try harder ::)
Quote from: thebigfella on May 23, 2012, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on May 23, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
All this talk of Chelsea being a defensive team and being lucky to win the CL is really taking away from United shitting their togs in the PL and blowing an 8 point lead with 5 games to go in the most embarrassing collapse in the history of the sport or any sport for that matter......
Just in case anyone was forgetting............................. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
You obviously have forgot quit a bit........... or obviously don't know anything about sport.
You could have, any of England's Penalty Shootouts :P, McIlroy at the Masters, Jean van de Velde at the Open in 99..... Sure Newcastle blew a bigger lead so how can Utd's be the most embarrassing?
Try harder ::)
No United's is the most embarrassing without a doubt.
Newcastle didn't blow it with 5 game to go.