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Is this pre season before the pre season?

Nick Powell??? I just don't see what he brings to the table. Bad result but united created more chances last Saturday that in 3 or 4 games with Rooney up top. Martial especially and Memphis will be top players, the latter a little inconsistent with final ball/cross but we've seen that before. It's just a shame that the Rooney absence has coincided with these defensive injuries so the results have not improved.

I still think it's ridiculous to suggest things are not better than the Moyes era. United are 4 points behind Arsenal and 3 points behind City - anyone would have accepted that at this stage of the season if you'd asked them in August.

Stew - your comments tend towards the erratic anyway but the slating you gave an 18 year old kid there was disgraceful.

Comparing LVG to Moyes is pure nonsense, can't be bothered getting into again. Agree on Powell, don't think anyone gets that as it looked like he was on his way out of the club especially given his reported bad attitude. LVG really needs a good run to get the fans of his back, so many have made their mind up that they want rid.

As for Stew he likes to dish out the sly digs but is unable to take them.

You wanted rid of the best manager in history ffs, no sly dig, what do you think would have happened if he had left in 04?

Go and have a read of my previous posts and explained my reasons, there was a lot of fans who wanted rid of him. It was very split amongst United fans I know, he was doing his job properly and the kick up the arse Keane gave him worked. We had 18 points from 10 games before Keane's outburst and then went onto achieve 65 points from 28 games, a huge improvement.

If the Keane outburst had such influence then why didn't he use this magic to become a success as a manager himself? United were in transition back then and only for Fergie United would have mid table finishes instead of top 3.

How the fcuk Fergie won that last title is still one of the great sporting mysteries.

Fergies 2nd last season United only lost the league on goal difference.

Utterly shocking defending but when you saw the back four on the team sheet you had to fear that we'd prob need 2-3 goals the other end.  You can blame injuries all you like but the choices from the bench on subs in the past few games are simply inexcusable.  If Giggs doesn't have the place to influence LVG to put on their best attacking subs when chasing a game he may as well bog off to Swansea.  The Glazers need to think long and hard before giving LVG money in Jan and consider if it would be better spend paying him to GTF and bring in someone who knows the United way.

The Glazers dont care. As long as the money is there to siphon away. The United way died when they took over.

It was criminal taking the MF off just prior to a free kick, Fellaini was one of their better player, that kid Jackson is never going to make it, she is as slow as feck, you cannot have slow corner back and he was brutal the first 75 minutes and pretty good the last fifteen, he will be gone because he will never cut it, I hate being that harsh on him on his debut but it was one rough outing.

The players don't seem to have the bottle for the fight, desire is missing, this tells me they do not believe in the manager.

LVG is mailing it in and needs to be gone, he is useless and killing the clubs chances of winning trophies.

Not even Brian Cody could turn Man U around. The Glazers are the problem.

Glazers took over United in 2005 when they were in a similar position as today.

Giggs either offers nothing sensible or Van Gaal doesn't listen to anything he says. I do not think Giggs has the charisma for that job. All eyes will be on Gary Neville in Spain. I think  Ferguson is secretly wetting himself at the prospect.

Neville will have to prove his worth in Spain or Giggs gets the job, I would say Fergie would prefer Neville but you never know.

f**k Ferguson. He left the team in shite and picked a completely incompetent replacement. He has done enough damage.

Neither Giggs nor Neville(s) are worth consideration as replacements for LVG when he leaves in 18 months time. They have achieved nothing in management.

Stew - am I right in thinking you believe Giggs would be a bad manager because of his infidelities? Surely as a Christian (I assume you are) you should be promoting forgiveness and being non-judgemental. Judgement is reserved for one entity, no?

Wash your mouth out, if SAF were to return it would all change. Thats just a ridiculous comment on the manager who led us to all the silverware over the last 20 years. im not calling for a return but there was a certain mentality, and beyond all a FEAR. For anyone to slate SAF for retiring is BS, he left with a title winning team!Transition could take this team 5 years. We have been lucky the quality of the league has been so poor or we would already be out of the picture.  We are 3 points from top of the league, form has been poor and quality of football also but if someone was to give you the current table after 15 games at the beginning of the season im sure any fan would have snapped their hand off. Undoubtedly, there will be a huge regret if we do not strngthen in defense & attack come January 31st

It's not a ridiculous comment. Ferguson is probably the greatest manager in history but he is also an egomaniac. He can't stop talking in the media or writing books - he loves the limelight and the adulation. For all his greatness the football played by his teams in the last few years was awful at times and also for a time during the mid-2000's. He treated great club servants unnecessarily harshly when he deemed them past their usefulness. He cost the club approx. 80-100M with his treatment of Pogba and made many terrible transfers.

And undeniably he left the team/squad in bad shape when he left, appointing a guy who was destined to fail. Yes they won the league but it was a poor league then and it's a poor league now, relatively.

If LVG is to be micro analysed and criticised under the microscope, why the reluctance to do the same to others?

I do agree the FEAR factor has gone. I think the time a Sunderland players walked through United's defense (Rio especially) from the halfway line was the moment I copped that. It didn't go overnight and won't come back overnight. United is being rebuilt and currently has few if any leaders. That needs to be addressed for this mentality to return. I think it will be but the team is coming from a low base.

f**k Ferguson was a ridiculous comment. The 13 premier league titles,global brand the club is today,the massive stadium and training complex,ability to spend hundreds of millions on players and the structures in place to keep United either challenging for the title or reaching top 4 probably wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for the job Ferguson did. He turned the club around without him United could just be another so called big club with a tradition such as Newcastle or Everton.

That was woeful but expect nothing else... I'm surprised Utd scored 2 goals... Best team won and Utd cant have any complaint's.... Don't think anybody would think Utd was going through... Worst thing is playing Thursday nights... Hopefully they get knocked out of that waste of energy competition...

On a brighter note I backed PSV by mistake, thought id backed PSG!! So waiting on Chelsea tomorrow or cash out!!

Europa league could be utds best route back into champs league.

This United side will not win any trophy. Best route back to the champions league is finishing 4th in average Premier league.

Early championship exit was expected after failure to beat PSV at home. LVG for once this season lifted the shackles off his team and what it showed was United are very poor in defence without a possession game. Keeping Smalling on when injured was a case of how desperate LVG was at the end.

[the mad days of underage and colleges and multiple teams are over]

He does score a lot from play - when he's right.

He had surgery at the end of the year. Was patently unfit all year and that was on the back of the should trouble before that. What is surprising is that he's managed to play as well as he has and contribute as much as he has under the circumstances. Very good forward with lots of strings to his bow. Very good in a playmaker role as well.

He's always unfit if you're being honest. Lad will do well to make it to 30 playing IC at this rate.

Gawd help ye if he is ever fit then before he's 30. Andy is over 30 and still hasn't lost to Roscommon .

It shows how talented he is that he has been vital even when obviously limited by injuries. But the mad days of underage and colleges and multiple teams are over so the demands now should be more manageable. He ll be fine.

Could count on one hand the amount of U21 county games C O Connor played and his college side UUJ were knocked out in the first round. OTT training with the senior panel as a 19 year old could be the root cause for all of his injuries now.

Lar, O'Connor wouldn't score the goal that Enda Smith scored in Cavan. A solo effort from just inside the Cavan half. A hugely talented young player, and a big player of the future.

We are not comparing like with like.No doubt Smith is talented  but would he step out onto the pitch in Croke Park, in front of 85,000 spectators and give a MOTM display?   
Not only that, would he turn up for the next game and repeated his performance?   Prior to his displays in the semi, he had a couple of very good games in the earlier championship games so he didn't get his YPOTY award because he hit it lucky in any particular game.     
Furthermore, he won the mayoggablog poll for POTY comfortably. Here he was in contention with AOS, Lee Keegan and the likes. I mean his achievements have been judged by others and he has come up trumps.
I'm not knocking Smith but he's a long, long way to go before we'll be able to judge his true worth. 
Ross v Cavan in Breffni Park isn't quite the same as Ross v Dublin in front of a packed stadium in Croke Park.

Again its posts like this that a young lad like DOC could do without. First semi final Cillian O Connor was man of the match and I feel a few are going a little OTT with DOC performance in the replay so much so that it was enough for him to be voted the player of the year on the mayogaablog however if one was to judge the calender year I think AOS,Keegan,Parsons had a better year than DOC.

Scoring is one thing DOC has to improve on, between FBD,NFL and championship he only scored 0-9 to put that scoring into context a overlooked Adam Gallagher scored 0-9 in one game for Mayo last year.

There will be others 
Nobody outside Mayo (and not too many in Mayo either would have Diarmuid O Connor emerging so soon.

If you want to call it that. I've been hearing him being hyped up to the hilt by confused Ballagh lads for years now who said he was just mighty (in training) and at minor, U21 and senior up until the two Dublin games he showed little to warrant the hype. Other players would have been thrown by the wayside long before O'Connor started to come good, he's had a lot of senior football already. He has miles to go yet if he wants to be a consistent force at senior. Durcan took to county far more gracefully.

You really dont have a fukn clue do ya

Touchy ladeen. DOC has talent but saying he's arrived after two good performances is mad. Talk about heaping pressure on a kid.

Pity Roscommon don't have anyone as good as him

To be honest DOC wouldn't make Roscommon team and to reply to your statement about us not having anyone as good as him. Ultan Harney and Murtagh both the same age are far superior players. Time will prove that. I agree with syf on this the lad has only played two good championship games it's less than a year ago he was been whipped off after 30 mins for consistently shite performances for DCU

Roscommon as I've said previously are married to Sigerson and underage football. What have you actually done at senior level recently

When you break it down to brass tacks- you've done sweet f*** all.

DOC has performed very well against the best team in the country twice this year in front 82,500

The Roscommon players you quoted may have done it in winter on some shit kick a bucket pitch in front of two men and a dog in some Sigerson game but they've never done it in Croke Park in front of 80,000 with another half million on TV watching them.

When they do - you can say they are better then DOC.

Until then they aren't in my opinion

Doc is a fine prospect with the potential to be a good senior for many years to come but I think It would be better to allow him develop than over hype him him like you or others are trying to do.

Doc didn't score in the first semi final against Dublin and if it wasn't for the accuracy of his brother there would be no replay. In that replay Doc scored 0-2 both scores came in the 1st half when the game came to the crunch he faded out of it.

He's a very good prospect in my view. He was Mayo's best forward over the two games i my view.
And the view on him in DCU wasn't stellar but DCU don't get everything right. Roscommon haven't delivered at senior level yet and until they do they are on thin ice.

Roscommon were Div 4 in 2011 will be Div one in 2016 I don't think without the success at underage and Sigerson they would have rose to that level at senior level.

DCU not alone no side can get everything right and DOC didn't stand out for DCU in fact in the 4 Sigerson cup games against UUJ,UCD,St Mary's,UCC he failed to score in any of them. Less hype and let DOC develop into the player that he has the potential to be.

Great game, some of the club action this year has been outstanding.

Senior County football could follow its lead, club football not obsessed with fitness and tactics and produces more than a handful of good games.

There will be others 
Nobody outside Mayo (and not too many in Mayo either would have Diarmuid O Connor emerging so soon.

If you want to call it that. I've been hearing him being hyped up to the hilt by confused Ballagh lads for years now who said he was just mighty (in training) and at minor, U21 and senior up until the two Dublin games he showed little to warrant the hype. Other players would have been thrown by the wayside long before O'Connor started to come good, he's had a lot of senior football already. He has miles to go yet if he wants to be a consistent force at senior. Durcan took to county far more gracefully.

You really dont have a fukn clue do ya

Touchy ladeen. DOC has talent but saying he's arrived after two good performances is mad. Talk about heaping pressure on a kid.

Pity Roscommon don't have anyone as good as him

To be honest DOC wouldn't make Roscommon team and to reply to your statement about us not having anyone as good as him. Ultan Harney and Murtagh both the same age are far superior players. Time will prove that. I agree with syf on this the lad has only played two good championship games it's less than a year ago he was been whipped off after 30 mins for consistently shite performances for DCU

Roscommon as I've said previously are married to Sigerson and underage football. What have you actually done at senior level recently

When you break it down to brass tacks- you've done sweet f*** all.

DOC has performed very well against the best team in the country twice this year in front 82,500

The Roscommon players you quoted may have done it in winter on some shit kick a bucket pitch in front of two men and a dog in some Sigerson game but they've never done it in Croke Park in front of 80,000 with another half million on TV watching them.

When they do - you can say they are better then DOC.

Until then they aren't in my opinion

Doc is a fine prospect with the potential to be a good senior for many years to come but I think It would be better to allow him develop than over hype him him like you or others are trying to do.

Doc didn't score in the first semi final against Dublin and if it wasn't for the accuracy of his brother there would be no replay. In that replay Doc scored 0-2 both scores came in the 1st half when the game came to the crunch he faded out of it.

Ye should have played Rooney.

With no Rooney which player will be the scapegoat for this result?

Maroon Manc, I seriously lol at nearly all your posts. You are the ultimate silver lining supporter. Everything is great, LVG knows everything....
Keep it up 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Our football is crap and I despise our owners. I wanted Fergie out around 2004/05, can't stand the class of 92 and think Rooney is a c**t. You're a long way off the mark.

I'm as frustrated as the next red about our football but can put up with it for this season, next season I expect our performances to improve. I'm prepared to be patient, if our results were on a par with last season I'd want him out but we've progressed and are still in a title race.

Why would you want rid of the best manager in football history???

That makes no sense at all at all.

Doesn't make much sense is right. 2004-05 when United were rebuilding they never dropped out of the top 3 and the football was more attractive to watch than now. Class of 92 contained some of the best United players in the premier league era I'm not sure why he can't stand them?

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