Irish mercenaries, unionist coat trailers and the Bard of Dunclug

[bignifanatic]

For petes sake, Mr Armstrong is and was innocent in all of this. I spoke with him on Sunday in belfast and he is still very upset about everything however he has had many letters and calls from people that believe his side of the story, including some from the nationalist community.

Leave him alone chaps, he has done no wrong.

[theskull1]

Have they found the culprit yet?

[bignifanatic]

Have they found the culprit yet?

He is a well known poster on this board and the police tell us that they are continuing their investigation and expect to move on this soon.

[lynchbhoy]

For petes sake, Mr Armstrong is and was innocent in all of this. I spoke with him on Sunday in belfast and he is still very upset about everything however he has had many letters and calls from people that believe his side of the story, including some from the nationalist community.

Leave him alone chaps, he has done no wrong.

its hard to accept that really when the posts coming from him prior to that were of a similar nature.

also when you see dup clapping a bitter twisted little fool out of the assembley its hard to think that the bard is an isolated case....



yes Zapatisata - the numbers do not matter right now - as the economic climate is not right, but I was referring to the dispute over how many there are of catholics and how many there are of protestants - a spat between posters in a couple of prev posts,
its smoke and mirrors (or cloak and mirrors - (C) bertie) to take the thread away from the real point  - the bard and his sectarian posts ....

[Donagh]

He is a well known poster on this board and the police tell us that they are continuing their investigation and expect to move on this soon.

Load of bollocks! Armstrong posted it and we all know it.

[lynchbhoy]

Have they found the culprit yet?

He is a well known poster on this board and the police tell us that they are continuing their investigation and expect to move on this soon.

I am sure all the 5 year olds on this board will believe that at least...

[bennydorano]

For petes sake, Mr Armstrong is and was innocent in all of this. I spoke with him on Sunday in belfast and he is still very upset about everything however he has had many letters and calls from people that believe his side of the story, including some from the nationalist community.

Leave him alone chaps, he has done no wrong.

I thought his defence was he left his computer unattended in his office  Hardly too many 'GAAboard types' employed in his office I'd dare say.

I suppose this could offer definitive proof one way or another - either we will be kept up to date with the progress of the PSNI 'investigation' or you/him are full of mad dog's sh1te.

[nifan]

bignifanatic, unless something concrete comes to light there is no point in telling us that he denies it - what else would he do.

[full back]

For petes sake, Mr Armstrong is and was innocent in all of this. I spoke with him on Sunday in belfast and he is still very upset about everything however he has had many letters and calls from people that believe his side of the story, including some from the nationalist community.

Leave him alone chaps, he has done no wrong.

FFS, catch a grip of yourself
There is no proof to say he didnt post it
As for the police investigation, I wont be holding my breath


BTW, this gave me a little chuckle "he has had many letters and calls from people that believe his side of the story, including some from the nationalist community.

[mylestheslasher]

For petes sake, Mr Armstrong is and was innocent in all of this. I spoke with him on Sunday in belfast and he is still very upset about everything however he has had many letters and calls from people that believe his side of the story, including some from the nationalist community.

Leave him alone chaps, he has done no wrong.

I heard that Martin McGuiness was the phantom poster. He wanted to take down a really big player on the unionist side.

Is no one going to answer my question if they are for or against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[nifan]

I think EG already stated his position on Iraq and Afghanistan.

[delboy]

To give a parallel, has progress with regard to racial equality throughout the world been achieved through the violence of racial minorities?

In essence yes - look at the situation in South Africa would apartheid have been demolished without the use of physical force?  We now have a situation where once a terrorist in many people's eyes (Nelson Mandella) is now regarded as a force of right for those seeking rights of their own.  There are many examples of this on a racial front but also on a global front.  Would Hitler have been defeated without the use of physical force reaction - no, we would have been living in a very different world today if this reaction hadn't have been utilised!

So the whites in South Africa gave in due to violence. And the whites in the US gave in because the blacks were shooting whites and bombing cities? And you think without 'this violence', there would still be apartheid in SA and the US?

I absolutely do especially with reference to South Africa.  Listen - I'm no advocate of violence however to use the analogy of our canine friend - if you punch and kick a dog long enough sooner or later it will bite the arm off you and what more could you expect?  I ask you, what was being done in 1967 in the North when Catholics were being shot dead in their homes (prior to IRA reactionary violence), those who were'nt business class could not vote, nationalists were not allowed to have another identity other than British and families were being evicted to the streets to let single protestant women move in?  Have we revised history so much that these social facts are now ignored - as I said earlier, 50 years of neglect and co-ercion was always going to have a breaking point!

So you don't think the passage of 41 years, the formation of a modern europe etc would have produced a single jot of movement for the good.
Left to there own devices i think the civil rights movement would have got where we are now a hell of a lot quicker than any armed conflict, lets face it the conflict was used as the justification for the removal of a huge amount of civil rights. 

You can't make an omlette without breaking eggs

Answering something with the platitude of a sabre rattling general is a pretty poor response.

How about another one.

'Theres more than one way to skin a cat'

Who had the biggest impact, martin luther king or malcom X?

"There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for."

The words of ghandi, the man that brought about the independence of india, the dismantling of the british empire, who inspired the american civil righs movement and all by non-violent means.

The armed conflict did nothing but hurt ordinary people and hold back the enevitable.

[mylestheslasher]

I think EG already stated his position on Iraq and Afghanistan.

The question wasn't addressed to EG alone, but to anyone who supported the march and I suppose to anyone who has a problem with a protest made against it.

[nifan]

I was replying to your question "is no one going to answer"

Personally I am neither a supporter of the march nor the protest particulalry

[Evil Genius]

Dont forget the bard is an elected representative of the Unionist people too.

Looking at the other elected representatives up here it cant be a surprise.

Ah but wishing murder on someone for opposing a march on a website, thats shocking, even by Northern Politicians standards.

Disagree. Being a "Keyboard Warrior" hardly compares with the activities of the real thing:
http://www.village.ie/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=206

And, of course, the above list by Breen excludes Paul Butler, SF MLA from Lisburn, who as an IRA member was convicted of the murder of a 50 year old Police Reservist, when he sneaked up behind him and shot him in the back of the head.
Or Martina Anderson - "Anderson was born in Derry into a large republican family. She has six sisters and three brothers, and one brother, Paul, is currently a Sinn Féin councillor. She was arrested aged 18 leaving a furniture store in Derry, and charged with possession of a firearm and causing an explosion. Anderson was released on bail after spending two months in Armagh Women's Prison, and fled across the border to Buncrana in County Donegal.[2]
She was arrested on 24 June 1985 at a flat in Glasgow with four other IRA members including Brighton bomber Patrick Magee. On 11 June 1986 all five were convicted of conspiring to cause explosions in England, although Magee was the only person convicted in relation to the Brighton bombing.[3][4] In 1989 she married fellow IRA prisoner Paul Kavanagh at Full Sutton Prison near York. In 1994 she was transferred from Durham Prison to Maghaberry Prison in Northern Ireland, and she was released on 10 November 1998 under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement and has since renounced violence"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Anderson
Or Billy Page (Derry City Councillor) - http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northwest-edition/daily/councillor-conviction-move-13440922.html
Or Conor Murphy MLA - "According to An Phoblacht, Murphy first became involved with the Irish Republican Army (IRA) during the 1981 hunger strikes.[1] In 1982 he was sentenced to five years in prison for IRA membership and possession of explosives."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conor_Murphy
Or Caral Ni Chuilin MLA - "The north Belfast councillor was jailed for nine years in the 1980s for her part in a foiled Provo bomb plot to wipe out RUC officers. She served four years of her sentence for a string of terrorist offences, including possession of explosives with intent and membership of the IRA"
http://saoirse32.blogsome.com/2006/05/21/alliance-in-sinn-fein-or-unionist-lord-mayor-dilemma/
Or Eamon Mac Con Midhe (Councillor) - "Mac Con Midhe himself served a jail term for firearms possession in May 1976, after he was arrested during an incident in which shots were fired at a police car in the grounds of Downe Hospital in Downpatrick. At the time he was known as Eamon McConvey. Both he and O'Donnell served their jail terms in the Provisional IRA wings of the Maze Prison."
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/conviction-shows-sf-is-still-linked-to-ira-crime-despite-new-bid-for-power-131919.html
Or Dickie O'Donnell (Full-Time SF Election Agent) - "O'Donnell was sentenced to 12 years in March 1982, after being convicted for his part in an attempted IRA bombing in January 1981. He was the driver of a car which was stopped by an RUC patrol which found two beer kegs filled with explosives.  The bomb was being taken from a store in Killough, Co Down, for a bombing attack in Belfast.  In recent years he has been a full-time and prominent Sinn Fein election worker in the South Down constituency. According to local people, it is well known that he remained a member of the IRA"
Or Jennifer McCann MLA - "McCann was born in the Twinbrook area of Belfast, and was friends with Bobby Sands and his sister Bernadette. She joined the republican movement as a schoolgirl, becoming a member of Cumann na mBan then joining the Provisional Irish Republican Army aged 17. McCann was arrested aged 20, after shooting a Royal Ulster Constabulary police officer, and subsequently sentenced to 20 years imprisonment"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_McCann
Or Fra McCann MLA - "Fra McCann is an Irish politician. McCann became active in the Irish republican movement and during the 1970s was jailed on a number of occasions. In 1987, he was elected to Belfast City Council, representing Sinn Féin. McCann was elected to the Northern Ireland Assembly representing West Belfast in 2003 and again in 2007.[1] He was imprisoned during the 1970s for firearms offences. While being held in H-Block 3 of the Maze, McCann befriended Kieran Nugent and participated in the blanket protest.[2][3] In June 2006 McCann was charged with assault and disorderly behaviour following an incident in west Belfast. The incident occurred as the PSNI were attempting to arrest a teenager for attempted robbery. However McCann alleged heavy handedness and stated "I tried to put myself between one of the officers and the girl when the police officer radioed for assistance. McCann was released on bail"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fra_McCann
Oliver McMullan (Mourne District Councillor) - Sept.2002 Agreed to pay damages on the steps of the Court after being served with a writ for Assault by MDC Tourism Officer, Kevin McGarry (B.Telegraph, 22/04/04)
Barry McElduff MLA - Active in the campaign to secure a United Ireland by illegally painting Pillar Boxes green...

The above list, whilst by no means exhaustive, was compiled by simply going through the list of Stormont Candidates (only) on SF's own website and Googling them. I daresay there are politicians from other parties with other "indiscretions" on their CV's - other posters are welcome to do their bit to shine a light on the activities of our esteemed political representatives.