If you were giving out All Stars at this stage, who would be shoo ins ?

[Reillers]

I've only seen him mentioned once, but I've got to say Shane O Neill had a fine season.
I also think that Naughton had a really good season till the KK game.
Ben has to be a shoe in. Great season. Kept Cork in the championship.
Tom Kenny as well had a stormer of a season, as did Ronan Curran. Gardiner as well should get one.
But I wouldn't be surprised, that if KK won, that, deserving or not, all 15 got All Stars,

So Reillers, you have, let me count them, 6 Cork All Stars?

Good to see your body rejected the dose of reality it received a couple of weeks ago.

I know ya, it was touch and go for a while but it's all good now.
I don't mean all of them should get it..even though they were pretty good. Better then some of KK's players majority of the season, what I've seen here is players, Canning (even though he probably should be made an exception for) get an All Star for playing one good game. I thought consistency had something to do with these awards, not history and hype. But that's the way it is I suppose.

Ah hold on there now. Joe Canning will get an All Star based on his performance against Cork AND his performances in the League. As for consistency having something to do with these awards, I think Kilkenny have proven to be the most consistent bunch again. Everyone else has lost at least one game, and I know Kilkenny haven't been tested yet  but perhaps that's because they are so far ahead. And even in terms of consistency, you'd be hard pressed to put more than 2 Cork lads on the team (I've picked Gardiner and O'Connor). O'Connor may get squeezed out, but he'll probably lose out if Eddie Brennan score 1-3 or something in the final and Kilkenny win it.

I agree about Shane O'Neill (I mentioned him initally), but I think that Kilkenny's tactics against Cork (basically ignore the Rock when everyone else assumed they'd try and take him to the cleaners) had a negative impact on O'Neill. Aidan Fogarty and Eddie Brennan scored 0-8 or something from play between them. I think that's opened the door for Jackie Tyrell and Eoin Murphy.

Since when do they give out All Stars for the League. Canning is been given the All Star for the Cork match. This year, this is about this year, if we start handing out all stars for how consistent players have been over a few years, then we should give half to KK and half to Cork. This is about this season. KK have had and always will till Leinster is changed, circumstances go for them. Gaa, Ben, Cathal, Tom, Curran, O Neill..etc all have been consistently good this season. But what, a few have lost All Stars for playing one bad game, but 7 or 8 gained them for playing one good game, come on.

[mouview]

I've only seen him mentioned once, but I've got to say Shane O Neill had a fine season.
I also think that Naughton had a really good season till the KK game.
Ben has to be a shoe in. Great season. Kept Cork in the championship.
Tom Kenny as well had a stormer of a season, as did Ronan Curran. Gardiner as well should get one.
But I wouldn't be surprised, that if KK won, that, deserving or not, all 15 got All Stars,

So Reillers, you have, let me count them, 6 Cork All Stars?

Good to see your body rejected the dose of reality it received a couple of weeks ago.

I know ya, it was touch and go for a while but it's all good now.
I don't mean all of them should get it..even though they were pretty good. Better then some of KK's players majority of the season, what I've seen here is players, Canning (even though he probably should be made an exception for) get an All Star for playing one good game. I thought consistency had something to do with these awards, not history and hype. But that's the way it is I suppose.

Absolutely correct Reillers, consistency should count.

Let's see; instrumental performances in victorious club march to AI title, check.
Hugely influential presence in epic Fitzgibbon cup final, check.
Auspicious senior county debut in league semi-final v. Cork, check. (remember, wonderful line ball from 50 metres into wind?)
Strong performance again in league final, check.
Good showings v Antrim and Laois (trinkets really).
Outstanding one-man display in one big championship game v Cork, check.

Add it all up.

[AZOffaly]

Reillers just has a blind spot for Cork mouview. I think it's true what they say. A Cork man with an inferiority complex only thinks he's as good as anyone else

[mouview]

Since when do they give out All Stars for the League. Canning is been given the All Star for the Cork match. This year, this is about this year, if we start handing out all stars for how consistent players have been over a few years, then we should give half to KK and half to Cork. This is about this season. KK have had and always will till Leinster is changed, circumstances go for them. Gaa, Ben, Cathal, Tom, Curran, O Neill..etc all have been consistently good this season. But what, a few have lost All Stars for playing one bad game, but 7 or 8 gained them for playing one good game, come on.

In reply, a trivia question. Which player won a hurling All-Star despite not playing championship hurling for his county that particular year, though he did represent his county in championship football in the same year?

The reason answers your question.

[Reillers]

Reillers just has a blind spot for Cork mouview. I think it's true what they say. A Cork man with an inferiority complex only thinks he's as good as anyone else

As good..try better.

[AZOffaly]

Since when do they give out All Stars for the League. Canning is been given the All Star for the Cork match. This year, this is about this year, if we start handing out all stars for how consistent players have been over a few years, then we should give half to KK and half to Cork. This is about this season. KK have had and always will till Leinster is changed, circumstances go for them. Gaa, Ben, Cathal, Tom, Curran, O Neill..etc all have been consistently good this season. But what, a few have lost All Stars for playing one bad game, but 7 or 8 gained them for playing one good game, come on.

In reply, a trivia question. Which player won a hurling All-Star despite not playing championship hurling for his county that particular year, though he did represent his county in championship football in the same year?

The reason answers your question.

John Leahy?

[orangeman]

Since when do they give out All Stars for the League. Canning is been given the All Star for the Cork match. This year, this is about this year, if we start handing out all stars for how consistent players have been over a few years, then we should give half to KK and half to Cork. This is about this season. KK have had and always will till Leinster is changed, circumstances go for them. Gaa, Ben, Cathal, Tom, Curran, O Neill..etc all have been consistently good this season. But what, a few have lost All Stars for playing one bad game, but 7 or 8 gained them for playing one good game, come on.

In reply, a trivia question. Which player won a hurling All-Star despite not playing championship hurling for his county that particular year, though he did represent his county in championship football in the same year?The reason answers your question.

Jimmy Barry ?

[AZOffaly]

I'd say it was John Leahy. I seem to remember him doing cruiciates or something in a match for Tipp footballers maybe around 2001-ish? I think Tipp had won the league hurling, and I seem to remember Babs going apeshit at him playing football.

[mouview]

I'd say it was John Leahy. I seem to remember him doing cruiciates or something in a match for Tipp footballers maybe around 2001-ish? I think Tipp had won the league hurling, and I seem to remember Babs going apeshit at him playing football.

Correctomundo, won an All-Star on the back of a great display v Galway in league final. Went  out the following week for Tip footballers and did cruciate.
It shows that you can win an award purely through the league.

[AZOffaly]

And Tipp went on and won the All Ireland that year without him, so his league must have been sensational.

[imtommygunn]

Leagues seemed to have more bearing on all stars in years gone by than currently - perhaps through more games with the qualifiers so more chance to go from memory.

Take the football this year - you couldn't seriously expect a derry player to get an all star.

[AZOffaly]

Leagues seemed to have more bearing on all stars in years gone by than currently - perhaps through more games with the qualifiers so more chance to go from memory.

Take the football this year - you couldn't seriously expect a derry player to get an all star.

I think that's a fair point. The more championship games a player plays in, and plays well, obviously the greater exposure and greater chance of an All Star. I do think Canning is a special case this year because he was so good all year, League and Championship, while he had the chance.

[imtommygunn]

Personally, and I could be wrong on this, I don't think he'll get one.

I think his decent game in championship was Cork while the Antrim / Laois ones really will mean nothing.

I don't think he played before league semi did he? Not sure he did enough in semi / final. (Obviously he did against Cork but ultimately was one game)

[AZOffaly]

In fairness it was more than a 'decent' game. It was one man versus 15 (14 actually) for long periods almost. I can see where Galway's early exit might and will count against his claims, but I suppose it depends what the All Stars are.

If they are supposed to represent the best 15 players of the year, he'll have to get one I think.
If they are supposed to represent the 15 players who have had the most impact on the championship, he probably will miss out, through no fault of his own.

[imtommygunn]

I would agree fully. On best 15 he has to be there but I think your comment about the most significant impacts on the championship seems to be the way they pick.

(Yep sorry I should have said stand out and not decent - obviously one of, if not the, best performance of the year vs Cork with Eoin Kelly v Offaly to challenge)