If you were giving out All Stars at this stage, who would be shoo ins ?

[youngfella]

id give one to deane before oconnor. but i wouldnt give any of them one to be honest. id have Mullane before them two air heads. Allow he doesnt deserve one sean og will likely get one

[AZOffaly]

There isn't a hope Joe Deane will get an All Star.

Ben O'Connor was very good against Galway and Clare, he kept Cork in it for long periods. Sean Óg wasn't spectacular this year, one absolutely fantastic catch against Galway notwithstanding. (It was amazing, he glided in from left half back across between Iarla Tanian and Ronan Curran. Jumped up between them and his momentum took him out the other side of them).

I think John Gardiner was their best half back for Cork this year, and his job on Gilligan and even Joe Canning probably helped Cork win those two games.

[orangeman]

Have to agree with AZ - Deano hasn't a hope - rotten against Clare and the Cats - taken off in both -
Sean Og hasn't had a vintage year - will be surprised if Sean Og gets one.
I think you're going to have an All Star team dominated by Waterford and Kilkenny - the rest will be made up with Maher of Tipp, Mc Grath Tipp, Scallinan Tipp, Joe Canning Galway, John Gardiner of Cork and Ben O'Connor Cork.

[Reillers]

I've only seen him mentioned once, but I've got to say Shane O Neill had a fine season.
I also think that Naughton had a really good season till the KK game.
Ben has to be a shoe in. Great season. Kept Cork in the championship.
Tom Kenny as well had a stormer of a season, as did Ronan Curran. Gardiner as well should get one.
But I wouldn't be surprised, that if KK won, that, deserving or not, all 15 got All Stars,

[orangeman]

I've only seen him mentioned once, but I've got to say Shane O Neill had a fine season.
I also think that Naughton had a really good season till the KK game.
Ben has to be a shoe in. Great season. Kept Cork in the championship.
Tom Kenny as well had a stormer of a season, as did Ronan Curran. Gardiner as well should get one.
But I wouldn't be surprised, that if KK won, that, deserving or not, all 15 got All Stars,

KK will get 7 or 8 - Waterford 3/4 - Tipp 3 - Cork 2 Galway 1

[Reillers]

I've only seen him mentioned once, but I've got to say Shane O Neill had a fine season.
I also think that Naughton had a really good season till the KK game.
Ben has to be a shoe in. Great season. Kept Cork in the championship.
Tom Kenny as well had a stormer of a season, as did Ronan Curran. Gardiner as well should get one.
But I wouldn't be surprised, that if KK won, that, deserving or not, all 15 got All Stars,

KK will get 7 or 8 - Waterford 3/4 - Tipp 3 - Cork 2 Galway 1

I doubt it. 

[AZOffaly]

I've only seen him mentioned once, but I've got to say Shane O Neill had a fine season.
I also think that Naughton had a really good season till the KK game.
Ben has to be a shoe in. Great season. Kept Cork in the championship.
Tom Kenny as well had a stormer of a season, as did Ronan Curran. Gardiner as well should get one.
But I wouldn't be surprised, that if KK won, that, deserving or not, all 15 got All Stars,

So Reillers, you have, let me count them, 6 Cork All Stars?

Good to see your body rejected the dose of reality it received a couple of weeks ago.

[Reillers]

I've only seen him mentioned once, but I've got to say Shane O Neill had a fine season.
I also think that Naughton had a really good season till the KK game.
Ben has to be a shoe in. Great season. Kept Cork in the championship.
Tom Kenny as well had a stormer of a season, as did Ronan Curran. Gardiner as well should get one.
But I wouldn't be surprised, that if KK won, that, deserving or not, all 15 got All Stars,

So Reillers, you have, let me count them, 6 Cork All Stars?

Good to see your body rejected the dose of reality it received a couple of weeks ago.

I know ya, it was touch and go for a while but it's all good now.
I don't mean all of them should get it..even though they were pretty good. Better then some of KK's players majority of the season, what I've seen here is players, Canning (even though he probably should be made an exception for) get an All Star for playing one good game. I thought consistency had something to do with these awards, not history and hype. But that's the way it is I suppose.

[orangeman]

There has to be an even spread - Winners always take 7 or 8 - Finalists will always get  3/4 and a 2 or 3 for the rest.


That's the way it is and most times it usually works out ok.

[AZOffaly]

I've only seen him mentioned once, but I've got to say Shane O Neill had a fine season.
I also think that Naughton had a really good season till the KK game.
Ben has to be a shoe in. Great season. Kept Cork in the championship.
Tom Kenny as well had a stormer of a season, as did Ronan Curran. Gardiner as well should get one.
But I wouldn't be surprised, that if KK won, that, deserving or not, all 15 got All Stars,

So Reillers, you have, let me count them, 6 Cork All Stars?

Good to see your body rejected the dose of reality it received a couple of weeks ago.

I know ya, it was touch and go for a while but it's all good now.
I don't mean all of them should get it..even though they were pretty good. Better then some of KK's players majority of the season, what I've seen here is players, Canning (even though he probably should be made an exception for) get an All Star for playing one good game. I thought consistency had something to do with these awards, not history and hype. But that's the way it is I suppose.

Ah hold on there now. Joe Canning will get an All Star based on his performance against Cork AND his performances in the League. As for consistency having something to do with these awards, I think Kilkenny have proven to be the most consistent bunch again. Everyone else has lost at least one game, and I know Kilkenny haven't been tested yet  but perhaps that's because they are so far ahead. And even in terms of consistency, you'd be hard pressed to put more than 2 Cork lads on the team (I've picked Gardiner and O'Connor). O'Connor may get squeezed out, but he'll probably lose out if Eddie Brennan score 1-3 or something in the final and Kilkenny win it.

I agree about Shane O'Neill (I mentioned him initally), but I think that Kilkenny's tactics against Cork (basically ignore the Rock when everyone else assumed they'd try and take him to the cleaners) had a negative impact on O'Neill. Aidan Fogarty and Eddie Brennan scored 0-8 or something from play between them. I think that's opened the door for Jackie Tyrell and Eoin Murphy.

[AZOffaly]

There has to be an even spread - Winners always take 7 or 8 - Finalists will always get  3/4 and a 2 or 3 for the rest.


That's the way it is and most times it usually works out ok.

Except when Brian Whelehan lost out one year. That was unbelievable.

[orangeman]

There has to be an even spread - Winners always take 7 or 8 - Finalists will always get  3/4 and a 2 or 3 for the rest.


That's the way it is and most times it usually works out ok.

Except when Brian Whelehan lost out one year. That was unbelievable.

Funny,  when I was tyrping that, that's exactly who I was thinking about and why I put in the word "usually" -

Brian's ommission was probably the balls up of the millenium !

[Lecale2]

Does anyone know what criteria the panel use when making selections? 

Is it just championship performances that are considered or does NHL count? What about the Walsh Cup? 

If there are 3 exceptional mid fielders could one of them be named as a half forward or does an All Star have to have played in the position they are rewarded for? Could Fitzhenry be named at full back if Hennessey is selected in goals?

Is it still journalists that make the selection?

[Reillers]

There has to be an even spread - Winners always take 7 or 8 - Finalists will always get  3/4 and a 2 or 3 for the rest.


That's the way it is and most times it usually works out ok.

Even if it's not deserving. It doesn't always work out.

[orangeman]

Does anyone know what criteria the panel use when making selections? 

Is it just championship performances that are considered or does NHL count? What about the Walsh Cup? 

If there are 3 exceptional mid fielders could one of them be named as a half forward or does an All Star have to have played in the position they are rewarded for? Could Fitzhenry be named at full back if Hennessey is selected in goals?Is it still journalists that make the selection?

Cummins is getting goalkeeper - Hennessy will be corner back and Fitzhenry could he left half forward !