Enhanced Rules

Started by Rossfan, July 29, 2025, 09:03:10 PM

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Do you want them

All retained
10 (12.5%)
Retained with tweaks
29 (36.3%)
Some Retained
34 (42.5%)
Dump the lot
7 (8.8%)

Total Members Voted: 80

Voting closed: August 28, 2025, 09:03:10 PM

twohands!!!

Quote from: The Trap on July 31, 2025, 04:14:05 PMThere was a big crowd at the Leinster final because it was 2 new teams and a big crowd at meath semi final because meath were there for the first time in so long. Other than that the crowds weren't any different.


Crowds were up over 20% for the group stages compared to last year.

That's an absolutely huge number of extra people through the turnstiles.

Rossfan

Connacht SFC up 29%
Ulster up 4%
Leinster up 45%
Munster down 3%.

Groups up 24%
Knock out stages up 26%.

21% increase overall.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

The Trap

How many went to all of the Kerry games? And them the best team with the best player?
If games keep going they went at the end of the year that's what crowds will be like. Nobody wants to watch one sided games.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2025, 04:54:58 PMConnacht SFC up 29%
Ulster up 4%
Leinster up 45%
Munster down 3%.

Groups up 24%
Knock out stages up 26%.

21% increase overall.
Don't be saying that! Down with positivity..

The Trap

The positivity we all want is a game that we can all embrace and support.

Mick Bustin

It's already been alluded to but the rules benefit teams with a certain player profile and it's now well and truly a a forwards game. I'm in favour of tap and go - it should stay as it speeds up the game. That's about it, the rest could get scrapped and I'd probably prefer it.

All the talk is about count level but the rules are too hard to police at club level fairly. There's been a bit of a bedding in period and leeway given but it's an impossible task for refs. It's all well and good at inter-county level with full compliment of match day officials but I've seen some absolute howlers from refs in club games.

Armagh18

Quote from: Mick Bustin on July 31, 2025, 05:18:07 PMIt's already been alluded to but the rules benefit teams with a certain player profile and it's now well and truly a a forwards game. I'm in favour of tap and go - it should stay as it speeds up the game. That's about it, the rest could get scrapped and I'd probably prefer it.

All the talk is about count level but the rules are too hard to police at club level fairly. There's been a bit of a bedding in period and leeway given but it's an impossible task for refs. It's all well and good at inter-county level with full compliment of match day officials but I've seen some absolute howlers from refs in club games.
Yeah and totally unfair on refs as well on their own. 

Dag Dog

Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2025, 04:54:58 PMConnacht SFC up 29%
Ulster up 4%
Leinster up 45%
Munster down 3%.

Groups up 24%
Knock out stages up 26%.

21% increase overall.
Some provinces prefer the pre-2025 puke football.

JoG2

Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2025, 02:00:41 PMI've said it before but the only rule change (along with tap and go) would be to ban defensive teams from hand-passing in their own 45 or half of the pitch.

I'm trying to picture this in my head and I keep coming up with the closing scenes of Benny Hill. It would be comedy gold

JoG2

Quote from: Dag Dog on July 31, 2025, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2025, 04:54:58 PMConnacht SFC up 29%
Ulster up 4%
Leinster up 45%
Munster down 3%.

Groups up 24%
Knock out stages up 26%.

21% increase overall.
Some provinces prefer the pre-2025 puke football.


I was never great at the sums myself

Rossfan

Quote from: JoG2 on July 31, 2025, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on July 31, 2025, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2025, 04:54:58 PMConnacht SFC up 29%
Ulster up 4%
Leinster up 45%
Munster down 3%.

Groups up 24%
Knock out stages up 26%.

21% increase overall.
Some provinces prefer the pre-2025 puke football.


I was never great at the sums myself
Ulster would be higher if Corrigan was bigger.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Armagh18

Good to see attendances up.

EoinW

Keep in mind that attendance was bound to be up due to the novelty factor.  The games themselves could be very chaotic, which would further increase curiosity.  I'm not making a good or bad judgement, just pointing out that increased attendance - certainly a positive - is a short term impact.

Everyone here is concerned with the long term interest in the game.  We just have different opinions on what is best.

I do have two questions for the lifetime fans:

1) I've read much about bring man to man defence back into the game.  I assume this was a feature of the game in the 20th century(before I had access to GAA).  My question is: why were scores no different from the recent era, up to 2024?  If the game was that much better 30 years ago then why wasn't there more scoring?

It does tempt one to suspect higher scores are a false god.  Then question FRC motivation because their changes consistently aim for higher scoring.

2) My understanding of the GAA, going back to the 19th century, is that it's primary goal is to give the Irish a sense of community.  Then I see how divided we've become over the massive changes we've witnessed this year.  Easy to forget we're all Gaelic football fans.  We're all on the same side!  My question is: has anything else in recent times been as divisive as what we're now experiencing?

I'm sorry to see all the negatives that have become side effects to the rule changes.  I apologize if I've contributed in an unhelpful way with any of my posts.

Archeologists works with great care.  They aim to recover the past, without destroying it.  Seems to me that the FRC could have moved with the care of an archeologist, yet chose to plow ahead like they were running a big digger.  Attempting to instantly solve the problem with one big effort.  Instant gratification for a western society that certainly knows everything about instant gratification.

Just my opinion but I fear they've done more damage than good with their approach.  Like Schliemann digging a huge trench and destroying a portion of Homer's Troy, that he was trying to rediscover.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2025, 04:54:58 PMConnacht SFC up 29%
Ulster up 4%
Leinster up 45%
Munster down 3%.

Groups up 24%
Knock out stages up 26%.

21% increase overall.

Some evidence congress jumped the gun in ending that format? Group stage also had more competitive games than the last month of action.

The Provincial chiefs in Connacht,Leinster and Ulster certainly won't want to lose it's connection to the All-Ireland series with those attendance figures
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

marty34

Quote from: Mick Bustin on July 31, 2025, 05:18:07 PMIt's already been alluded to but the rules benefit teams with a certain player profile and it's now well and truly a a forwards game. I'm in favour of tap and go - it should stay as it speeds up the game. That's about it, the rest could get scrapped and I'd probably prefer it.

All the talk is about count level but the rules are too hard to police at club level fairly. There's been a bit of a bedding in period and leeway given but it's an impossible task for refs. It's all well and good at inter-county level with full compliment of match day officials but I've seen some absolute howlers from refs in club games.

I'm delighted with the 'new game'.

Of course it's easier for the creative forwards.

For years it was park the bus and block the space etc. 

Now defenders have to....defend. Properly, like the old days. Still not 1 on 1 but they have to defend.

What chances the people who don't like the new rules are/were defenders?  8)