Enhanced Rules

[Truthsayer]

The thought of going back to packed defences, crab football, the audible chat from the stands gives me the jitters tbh

I totally understand fellow Gaels have hugely differing thoughts and preferences on this from my own opinion, and I accept that they are likely to carry the day in this debate.

The one thing I would say, in reference to the bit I've kept from your post, is that last year, the great and the good came on to lambast the spectacle that was the 2024 All Ireland Final, and many referenced how the players calling to each other was clearly audible, in the context of what they seen as a poor contest on the pitch, which in turn was used to shout for the need for rule changes. And yet, the players were clearly audible talking to each other on Sunday, and there was plenty of lateral passing and holding the ball up, and there was little talk about it, albeit there was plenty of booing from the crowd.

Furthermore, we had the ridiculous spectacle of Kerry players soloing the ball back and forward, unimpeded, in front of the half way line, as three Donegal players watched on helplessly, only yards away, unable to intervene.

Maybe the new game is a much better spectacle, full of more scores and more exciting for many, but for me it's just not Gaelic Football. 

I'm not sure what Gaelic Football is, the game goes through so many changes down the decades.
It wasn't a good final mainly because Donegal did not perform as expected. Taking the whole year I thought the game has been a huge improvement including at club level (in Tyrone anyway). What we had the last few years was the worst I've ever seen and that's going back a long time ... appaling.

[clonian]

I would keep some of the rules. Club football that I have watched has been much better as a whole. I have noticed as the stakes get a bit higher the game reverts back to more defensive football but it can be broken down more easily.
3 men up I'd keep
Handing the ball back can feck off - double punishment as it takes you out of the game. Set the ball down and get back.
Dissent rules are fine.
I'm split on the 2 pointers, the optics of pulling a free back over the arc looks weird and seems too heavy a punishment. From play I'm ok with it.
The kick out arc I thought would work but it's too easy to keep a team in now. No pass back to the keeper stops the slow build up enough I think.

[JoG2]

The thought of going back to packed defences, crab football, the audible chat from the stands gives me the jitters tbh

I totally understand fellow Gaels have hugely differing thoughts and preferences on this from my own opinion, and I accept that they are likely to carry the day in this debate.

The one thing I would say, in reference to the bit I've kept from your post, is that last year, the great and the good came on to lambast the spectacle that was the 2024 All Ireland Final, and many referenced how the players calling to each other was clearly audible, in the context of what they seen as a poor contest on the pitch, which in turn was used to shout for the need for rule changes. And yet, the players were clearly audible talking to each other on Sunday, and there was plenty of lateral passing and holding the ball up, and there was little talk about it, albeit there was plenty of booing from the crowd.

Furthermore, we had the ridiculous spectacle of Kerry players soloing the ball back and forward, unimpeded, in front of the half way line, as three Donegal players watched on helplessly, only yards away, unable to intervene.

Maybe the new game is a much better spectacle, full of more scores and more exciting for many, but for me it's just not Gaelic Football. 

You've lost me here. Unable to intervene through instruction, is this what you mean?
Did we see Donegal soloing outside the 45 with Kerry unable to intervene? You mark zonaly outside the arc while putting pressure on, especially with the likes of Paudi C. Donegal sat too deep and didn't engage, while Kerry did at the other end.
Inside the scoring zone it has to be man in man, surely this is what we want?
Donegal overplayed the ball continuously , handpassing needlessly around the small arc, players in scoring positions passing again and again and then you'd have Conor O'D shooting from worse positions. Again, under instructions?

[Nanderson]

Imo the only ones I have an issue with is the 50m advancement and no time limit to advantage/forward mark advantage. 50m is too harsh and forward mark shouldn't allow a forward who decides to play on have two bites of the cherry.

One rule I would like to add is keeper should be allowed to take a quick kickout even if players are still inside 21. Obviously they can't touch it until the ball has gone out of the arc. Would speed up play even more

[EoinW]

I'm in the same boat as others.  The traditionalist in me wants to say "dump the lot" however it's not a zero sum game.  I've always been open to rule changes that limit the defensive dominance and add pace to the game.  I'm only opposed to all the massive rule changes at once and how the balance hasn't been repaired, instead it's been shifted to favour the offence.

The catch is that if I don't vote to "dump the lot" then likely no one will.  Which means the pro rules changes crowd will use this poll as a propaganda victory: SEE NO ONE WANTS TO GO BACK TO 2024!

Fact is, I'd take 2024 over 2025 any day.

[AustinPowers]

I think  the tap n go seems to be most liked. So  maybe that's why few people have ticked 'dump the lot', as most people can see it adds  something to  the game.

[The Trap]

I'm in the some retained camp as well.

Keeper not being able to get the ball back, solo and go and a slightly less punishing version of the dissent rules would do it for me.

Very pleased to see there are so many thinking the same way as that reflects the conversations I have with so many heavily involved GAA people.

Please don't turn the game into a completely different sport!

[AustinPowers]

The thought of going back to packed defences, crab football, the audible chat from the stands gives me the jitters tbh

I totally understand fellow Gaels have hugely differing thoughts and preferences on this from my own opinion, and I accept that they are likely to carry the day in this debate.

The one thing I would say, in reference to the bit I've kept from your post, is that last year, the great and the good came on to lambast the spectacle that was the 2024 All Ireland Final, and many referenced how the players calling to each other was clearly audible, in the context of what they seen as a poor contest on the pitch, which in turn was used to shout for the need for rule changes. And yet, the players were clearly audible talking to each other on Sunday, and there was plenty of lateral passing and holding the ball up, and there was little talk about it, albeit there was plenty of booing from the crowd.

Furthermore, we had the ridiculous spectacle of Kerry players soloing the ball back and forward, unimpeded, in front of the half way line, as three Donegal players watched on helplessly, only yards away, unable to intervene.

Maybe the new game is a much better spectacle, full of more scores and more exciting for many, but for me it's just not Gaelic Football.

Yes, that was  odd. Like they were all trying to hail a taxi or something.

Agree on the lateral passing. Was  there much difference  in the 24 final to 25?  Was it only  boring  lateral passes last year because it was Armagh and Galway doing it? But it's ok because  it's Kerry?

[Delgany 2nds]

I'd scrap 2 point frees and I'd scrap the hooter, it is having a detrimental impact on the end of each half. Everything else is grand! 

[Rossfan]

Il

One rule I would like to add is keeper should be allowed to take a quick kickout even if players are still inside 21. Obviously they can't touch it until the ball has gone out of the arc. Would speed up play even more

Isn't that there already?

[Armagh18]

Il

One rule I would like to add is keeper should be allowed to take a quick kickout even if players are still inside 21. Obviously they can't touch it until the ball has gone out of the arc. Would speed up play even more

Isn't that there already?

have to be 20 yards from the keeper I think. But could be standing on the endline in theory

[Rossfan]

From the Rules explainer thingy.......
"After a score or a wide, a kickout to restart the game does not need all of the players to be outside the 20-metre line before it is kicked. Players must still be 13m from the kickout, and it is hoped that this will speed up the game. Kickouts must travel beyond the new 40m arc for the team taking the kickout. If not, it is a free against that team from the place of the foul. The other team can intercept the ball inside the 40m arc. The hope is that this creates more high fielding and contests for possession".

After an abortive attempt at a 20 second kick out rule keepers are now in the main taking much too long.
Refs don't want to give a free for this so maybe back to throw ins?

[tonto1888]

The thought of going back to packed defences, crab football, the audible chat from the stands gives me the jitters tbh

I totally understand fellow Gaels have hugely differing thoughts and preferences on this from my own opinion, and I accept that they are likely to carry the day in this debate.

The one thing I would say, in reference to the bit I've kept from your post, is that last year, the great and the good came on to lambast the spectacle that was the 2024 All Ireland Final, and many referenced how the players calling to each other was clearly audible, in the context of what they seen as a poor contest on the pitch, which in turn was used to shout for the need for rule changes. And yet, the players were clearly audible talking to each other on Sunday, and there was plenty of lateral passing and holding the ball up, and there was little talk about it, albeit there was plenty of booing from the crowd.

Furthermore, we had the ridiculous spectacle of Kerry players soloing the ball back and forward, unimpeded, in front of the half way line, as three Donegal players watched on helplessly, only yards away, unable to intervene.

Maybe the new game is a much better spectacle, full of more scores and more exciting for many, but for me it's just not Gaelic Football. 

You've lost me here. Unable to intervene through instruction, is this what you mean?
Did we see Donegal soloing outside the 45 with Kerry unable to intervene? You mark zonaly outside the arc while putting pressure on, especially with the likes of Paudi C. Donegal sat too deep and didn't engage, while Kerry did at the other end.
Inside the scoring zone it has to be man in man, surely this is what we want?
Donegal overplayed the ball continuously , handpassing needlessly around the small arc, players in scoring positions passing again and again and then you'd have Conor O'D shooting from worse positions. Again, under instructions?

i assume he means they couldnt come out of their own half

[Milltown Row2]

The seven rules was always going to have further implications when applied in a game. the extent of which is where we are now with some liking them all, some no so much and others liking none of them.

Not sure how far back we go to be 'traditionalist' mid 70's through the 80's or 90's as each of those times brought about change, though not wholesale changes.

We complained about the ref and his timing and looked at a variation of the ladies game with the hooter, now its not good enough for some

We complained about the blanket defence and and having 15 player behind the ball, trying to fix that has brough about that the forwards have too much of the ball and the poor 15 defenders that were able to snuff out attacks can't do that anymore and have to rely on man marking (a traditional trait )

We wanted to introduce shooting from distance to beat the blanket defensive teams rather than working the ball to the 'scoring zone' i.e 14 meters out, to do that it was looked at with incentives of 2 points.. now its not liked either for some..

Jezzzzz its a tough crowd to keep happy

Feck it, lets change it again

[Targetman]

Get rid of the 2 pointer and ban that blasted fisted point!