Enhanced Rules

[Rossfan]

Get your votes in.

[AustinPowers]

Thought it would be  a more detailed poll

Had to select  'some retained'  even though I'm only really in favour of one  new rule

[Milltown Row2]

Thought it would be  a more detailed poll

Had to select  'some retained'  even though I'm only really in favour of one  new rule

Put up your own detailed one

[AustinPowers]

Thought it would be  a more detailed poll

Had to select  'some retained'  even though I'm only really in favour of one  new rule

Put up your own detailed one

I wouldn't want to undermine rossfan's good work .

Thinking about it now though , it's actually difficult to have a really detailed single poll . You'd have to have two or more   separate polls , and sure who could be  bothered with that

[Milltown Row2]

Thought it would be  a more detailed poll

Had to select  'some retained'  even though I'm only really in favour of one  new rule

Put up your own detailed one

I wouldn't want to undermine rossfan's good work .

Thinking about it now though , it's actually difficult to have a really detailed single poll . You'd have to have two or more   separate polls , and sure who could be  bothered with that

Bothered enough to complain about someone that was bothered enough to do it 

[Rossfan]

Just vote away folks.

Only 8% want to go back to pre FRC football.

[AustinPowers]

Thought it would be  a more detailed poll

Had to select  'some retained'  even though I'm only really in favour of one  new rule

Put up your own detailed one

I wouldn't want to undermine rossfan's good work .

Thinking about it now though , it's actually difficult to have a really detailed single poll . You'd have to have two or more  separate polls , and sure who could be  bothered with that

Bothered enough to complain about someone that was bothered enough to do it 

I wasn't. Sure didn't I  praise his good work

[AustinPowers]

Just vote away folks.

Only 8% want to go back to pre FRC football.

And only 6 from 33 want  all the rules keeping

As I said, I favour keeping 1 rule. Others might favour all but 1, but both are  ticking  the same box. So the results arent  really clear cut

[Rossfan]

Voting pretty clear cut so far.

[David McKeown]

I've warmed to the rules although if it was a straightforward vote I'd ditch them but I can see why people like them. I don't think they have improved the sport at all simply shifted the focus of which skills are prioritised. Again some may like to see for example high fielding prioritised over good defending. My preference is to see good football being appropriately rewarded and I don't think the rules do that.

I also find that they annoy me a lot less when I'm watching on TV than when I'm at a match.

That said I don't think a season is a fair barometer.  I also think it's obvious that they are here to stay in some form or other.

The only big concern I have now is how it's determined what to keep and what to ditch. I don't think we know enough about the impact each rule change has in isolation. We've only really seen how they work together.

My concern given that whatever is decided upon at the end of the year has to be kept for 4 more years is that if we don't keep everything then there may be unintended consequences. For example would removing the 2 point arc impact of the 3 v 3 rule.

Would a return to 4 point goals see teams eschew point scoring opportunities because the relative value of a point would be further downgraded?  Who knows?

So whilst I'd like them removed I'm not vehemently opposed to them being kept. I just hope if they are kept then they are kept en bloc so that we don't do something we regret.

[Rufus T Firefly]

Thought it would be  a more detailed poll

Had to select  'some retained'  even though I'm only really in favour of one  new rule

You've spoken my thoughts more or less exactly. That's why I voted 'Some Retained'.

For me, I'd keep the tap and go, and ensure that backchat to the ref has a significant punishment, and then dispense with the rest.

Personal view only, but the changes have hugely benefitted the teams with the best forwards and punished those who rely on good defence. That to my mind corrupts the order of merit. Kerry may well have won this year's All Ireland anyway, but I don't think it is any coincidence that they did so in an absolute canter.

We played Antrim in the opening round of the Ulster Championship, and off the top of my head, won 1-35 to 1-24. The emphasis on the two point scores is now likely to increase pressure to have four point goals, and before you know it, teams will be regularly scoring 40 points plus. Many will argue, 'so what?', but for me, that's not Gaelic Football.

Like I said - a personal opinion only.   

[DuffleKing]

Thought it would be  a more detailed poll

Had to select  'some retained'  even though I'm only really in favour of one  new rule

You've spoken my thoughts more or less exactly. That's why I voted 'Some Retained'.

For me, I'd keep the tap and go, and ensure that backchat to the ref has a significant punishment, and then dispense with the rest.

Personal view only, but the changes have hugely benefitted the teams with the best forwards and punished those who rely on good defence. That to my mind corrupts the order of merit. Kerry may well have won this year's All Ireland anyway, but I don't think it is any coincidence that they did so in an absolute canter.

We played Antrim in the opening round of the Ulster Championship, and off the top of my head, won 1-35 to 1-24. The emphasis on the two point scores is now likely to increase pressure to have four point goals, and before you know it, teams will be regularly scoring 40 points plus. Many will argue, 'so what?', but for me, that's not Gaelic Football.

Like I said - a personal opinion only.   

I'm almost in the same camp.

I would keep the 3 up rule (impossible at club level) if they can do something about the application of the steps rule and sort out the tackle so that defenders can actually tackle.

[Armagh18]

Thought it would be  a more detailed poll

Had to select  'some retained'  even though I'm only really in favour of one  new rule

You've spoken my thoughts more or less exactly. That's why I voted 'Some Retained'.

For me, I'd keep the tap and go, and ensure that backchat to the ref has a significant punishment, and then dispense with the rest.

Personal view only, but the changes have hugely benefitted the teams with the best forwards and punished those who rely on good defence. That to my mind corrupts the order of merit. Kerry may well have won this year's All Ireland anyway, but I don't think it is any coincidence that they did so in an absolute canter.

We played Antrim in the opening round of the Ulster Championship, and off the top of my head, won 1-35 to 1-24. The emphasis on the two point scores is now likely to increase pressure to have four point goals, and before you know it, teams will be regularly scoring 40 points plus. Many will argue, 'so what?', but for me, that's not Gaelic Football.

Like I said - a personal opinion only.   

I'm in the same camp Rufus.

None of the rest really do it for me, maybe no passing back to the keeper in own half I'd retain but other than that no thanks.

[JoG2]

Thought it would be  a more detailed poll

Had to select  'some retained'  even though I'm only really in favour of one  new rule

You've spoken my thoughts more or less exactly. That's why I voted 'Some Retained'.

For me, I'd keep the tap and go, and ensure that backchat to the ref has a significant punishment, and then dispense with the rest.

Personal view only, but the changes have hugely benefitted the teams with the best forwards and punished those who rely on good defence. That to my mind corrupts the order of merit. Kerry may well have won this year's All Ireland anyway, but I don't think it is any coincidence that they did so in an absolute canter.

We played Antrim in the opening round of the Ulster Championship, and off the top of my head, won 1-35 to 1-24. The emphasis on the two point scores is now likely to increase pressure to have four point goals, and before you know it, teams will be regularly scoring 40 points plus. Many will argue, 'so what?', but for me, that's not Gaelic Football.

Like I said - a personal opinion only.   

agree completely with the tap and go, backchat, but the bit in bold I just cannot get my head around. I want to see the best forwards play and be able to produce the goods and not spend most of the game sprinting back to help with a 14 man defence, then sprint forward to try and score, rinse and repeat. This nonsense has been turning skillful players away from the game, especially at county level for years. The fitness levels this required is ridiculous and not sustainable. At both club and county level, players can be rotated with 3 men up.
Kerry won because they had players who can put the thing over the bar, and when in position did. Donegal have players who can do this, but some reason chose to over egg it, and not go for 2 pointers when they have players who can ie far to risk averse and it bit them on the backside. The final was a damp squid because of how Donegal setup, not the new rules imo

Re defending, countys will have to coach / unearth new Tony Scullions and go man for man, as zonal doesn't work by itself.
The thought of going back to packed defences, crab football, the audible chat from the stands gives me the jitters tbh

I ditch the 2 points. If it's to be kept, from play only.

[Rufus T Firefly]

The thought of going back to packed defences, crab football, the audible chat from the stands gives me the jitters tbh

I totally understand fellow Gaels have hugely differing thoughts and preferences on this from my own opinion, and I accept that they are likely to carry the day in this debate.

The one thing I would say, in reference to the bit I've kept from your post, is that last year, the great and the good came on to lambast the spectacle that was the 2024 All Ireland Final, and many referenced how the players calling to each other was clearly audible, in the context of what they seen as a poor contest on the pitch, which in turn was used to shout for the need for rule changes. And yet, the players were clearly audible talking to each other on Sunday, and there was plenty of lateral passing and holding the ball up, and there was little talk about it, albeit there was plenty of booing from the crowd.

Furthermore, we had the ridiculous spectacle of Kerry players soloing the ball back and forward, unimpeded, in front of the half way line, as three Donegal players watched on helplessly, only yards away, unable to intervene.

Maybe the new game is a much better spectacle, full of more scores and more exciting for many, but for me it's just not Gaelic Football.