Enhanced Rules

Started by Rossfan, July 29, 2025, 09:03:10 PM

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Total Members Voted: 80

Voting closed: August 28, 2025, 09:03:10 PM

Truthsayer

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 10, 2025, 09:40:42 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 10, 2025, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 10, 2025, 08:34:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 10, 2025, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 10, 2025, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 10, 2025, 05:32:45 PMTo what purpose?
To help bad teams?
??

To get close to the hype that was promised by FRC and all those in the media who was backing them and placing their trust in them.

No need to stick ones head in the sand. To have more better games in the knockout stages last year under the old rules was not a good look at all after the amount of change.

Tyrone, Meath kicking a lorry load of wides the fault of the new rules?
Galway and Dublin regressing?
Donegal getting so many things wrong in the Final?
 
So last year, bad games = rules are shite. This year bad games = teams are shite? Ok.
Last year nearly all club and county games were bad - this year majority of games good. New rules good 👍
It's a fair opinion to have but it doesn't mean that all of the rule changes have improved the game. It is possible that binning some of them would improve the game further.
Fair enough I just can't get my head around people who hark back to what we had last 10 years or so. Worst I ever seen and I remember back a right few decades!

Armagh18

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 10, 2025, 09:29:41 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 10, 2025, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 10, 2025, 09:08:43 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 10, 2025, 09:03:26 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 10, 2025, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 10, 2025, 08:34:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 10, 2025, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 10, 2025, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 10, 2025, 05:32:45 PMTo what purpose?
To help bad teams?
??

To get close to the hype that was promised by FRC and all those in the media who was backing them and placing their trust in them.

No need to stick ones head in the sand. To have more better games in the knockout stages last year under the old rules was not a good look at all after the amount of change.

Tyrone, Meath kicking a lorry load of wides the fault of the new rules?
Galway and Dublin regressing?
Donegal getting so many things wrong in the Final?
 
So last year, bad games = rules are shite. This year bad games = teams are shite? Ok.
Last year nearly all club and county games were bad - this year majority of games good. New rules good 👍
6 of the 7 biggest games (in the all ireland series) were all shite with the 3 biggest being shite.
You mean one-sided? It happens... we're not going back 😊
Which 6 games are you referring to?
3 out of 4 quarter finals, 2 semis and a final were not good games by any stretch of the imagination...

You're right I can't see us going back unfortunately.
They were one-sided. The All Ireland final last year was close and had about 5 minutes excitement at the end. An endurance test... #chess
If you take the blinkers off and the media spin, there was far more excitement in last years final, think there was less handpassing as well and probably similar amounts of lateral play, maybe even more this year.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Armagh18 on August 10, 2025, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 10, 2025, 09:29:41 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 10, 2025, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 10, 2025, 09:08:43 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 10, 2025, 09:03:26 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 10, 2025, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 10, 2025, 08:34:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 10, 2025, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 10, 2025, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 10, 2025, 05:32:45 PMTo what purpose?
To help bad teams?
??

To get close to the hype that was promised by FRC and all those in the media who was backing them and placing their trust in them.

No need to stick ones head in the sand. To have more better games in the knockout stages last year under the old rules was not a good look at all after the amount of change.

Tyrone, Meath kicking a lorry load of wides the fault of the new rules?
Galway and Dublin regressing?
Donegal getting so many things wrong in the Final?
 
So last year, bad games = rules are shite. This year bad games = teams are shite? Ok.
Last year nearly all club and county games were bad - this year majority of games good. New rules good 👍
6 of the 7 biggest games (in the all ireland series) were all shite with the 3 biggest being shite.
You mean one-sided? It happens... we're not going back 😊
Which 6 games are you referring to?
3 out of 4 quarter finals, 2 semis and a final were not good games by any stretch of the imagination...

You're right I can't see us going back unfortunately.
They were one-sided. The All Ireland final last year was close and had about 5 minutes excitement at the end. An endurance test... #chess
If you take the blinkers off and the media spin, there was far more excitement in last years final, think there was less handpassing as well and probably similar amounts of lateral play, maybe even more this year.
Media spin? Am well able to think for myself  :D now enjoying club games again as well.

thewobbler

The first half of last year's AI final was prime among the worst sport I've ever witnessed.

This year's game wasn't as tense but it was so much better to watch.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Significant factor which he may not admit to:

Down man watching Armagh win the All Ireland.

Truthsayer

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Quote from: thewobbler on August 10, 2025, 11:05:19 PMThe first half of last year's AI final was prime among the worst sport I've ever witnessed.

This year's game wasn't as tense but it was so much better to watch.
I'll second that. Nodded off twice in first half, albeit briefly, watching it at home. Was quite happy to see Armagh win but could have just tuned in for the last ten minutes.. 

tonto1888

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 11, 2025, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 10, 2025, 11:05:19 PMThe first half of last year's AI final was prime among the worst sport I've ever witnessed.

This year's game wasn't as tense but it was so much better to watch.
I'll second that. Nodded off twice in first half, albeit briefly, watching it at home. Was quite happy to see Armagh win but could have just tuned in for the last ten minutes.. 
Whereas this year you could have tuned in for the first 10 mins and you'd have seen everything. Was one of the most boring finals I remember in a long time

EoinW

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 11, 2025, 09:38:43 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 11, 2025, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 10, 2025, 11:05:19 PMThe first half of last year's AI final was prime among the worst sport I've ever witnessed.

This year's game wasn't as tense but it was so much better to watch.
I'll second that. Nodded off twice in first half, albeit briefly, watching it at home. Was quite happy to see Armagh win but could have just tuned in for the last ten minutes.. 
Whereas this year you could have tuned in for the first 10 mins and you'd have seen everything. Was one of the most boring finals I remember in a long time

I lasted 15 minutes!

2024 you had two counties that rarely win playing a tight, tense game because so much was at stake.  Yes I know it wasn't Harlem Globetrotters entertainment.  Nevertheless I did not nod off once.

If the GAA doesn't show some self restraint, I may view 2024 as the last All Ireland football championship.

thewobbler

It might be better if you would just change your handle to EoinWUM.

trileacman

What specifically did people find boring about last years final?

Because if its prolonged periods of possession and lateral passing around the arc don't we still have that?
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

Truthsayer

Indeed
2024: 1-11 to 0-13
2025: 1-26 to 0-19

Only problem with this year was Donegal played so poorly. 2024 an aberration apart from last few minutes excitement as it was close.

AustinPowers

Quote from: trileacman on August 14, 2025, 09:16:41 AMWhat specifically did people find boring about last years final?

Because if its prolonged periods of possession and lateral passing around the arc don't we still have that?

Kerry didn't win

You're correct on the  lateral passing .  There was more of it  and more  handpasses this year than last. Move all the chess  pieces relentlessly , get the shooter in position, and  boom, a 2 pointer. 

Some of Clifford's 2  pointers  were good kicks ,  but is that  the best we can expect from  potentially the greatest player  ever to play the game? Some people are easily pleased.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on August 14, 2025, 10:48:17 AM
Quote from: trileacman on August 14, 2025, 09:16:41 AMWhat specifically did people find boring about last years final?

Because if its prolonged periods of possession and lateral passing around the arc don't we still have that?

Kerry didn't win

You're correct on the  lateral passing .  There was more of it  and more  handpasses this year than last. Move all the chess  pieces relentlessly , get the shooter in position, and  boom, a 2 pointer. 

Some of Clifford's 2  pointers  were good kicks ,  but is that  the best we can expect from  potentially the greatest player  ever to play the game? Some people are easily pleased.

In 9 games he scored 8-62, think he's potentially the best player we'll see

Who topped scored in championship this year?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

Quote from: AustinPowers on August 14, 2025, 10:48:17 AM
Quote from: trileacman on August 14, 2025, 09:16:41 AMWhat specifically did people find boring about last years final?

Because if its prolonged periods of possession and lateral passing around the arc don't we still have that?

Kerry didn't win

You're correct on the  lateral passing .  There was more of it  and more  handpasses this year than last. Move all the chess  pieces relentlessly , get the shooter in position, and  boom, a 2 pointer. 

Some of Clifford's 2  pointers  were good kicks ,  but is that  the best we can expect from  potentially the greatest player  ever to play the game? Some people are easily pleased.
Did you not see the goals he scored this year? And points from play... previously he caught the ball and put his arm in the air to call for a mark. Now he plays a bit...

AustinPowers

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 14, 2025, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on August 14, 2025, 10:48:17 AM
Quote from: trileacman on August 14, 2025, 09:16:41 AMWhat specifically did people find boring about last years final?

Because if its prolonged periods of possession and lateral passing around the arc don't we still have that?

Kerry didn't win

You're correct on the  lateral passing .  There was more of it  and more  handpasses this year than last. Move all the chess  pieces relentlessly , get the shooter in position, and  boom, a 2 pointer. 

Some of Clifford's 2  pointers  were good kicks ,  but is that  the best we can expect from  potentially the greatest player  ever to play the game? Some people are easily pleased.
Did you not see the goals he scored this year? And points from play... previously he caught the ball and put his arm in the air to call for a mark. Now he plays a bit...

Most were only  against Cavan

2 minutes lateral passing , Clifford  trots around,  runs into position, has  the ball for a split second, 2 pointer.  He did that  numerous times, particularly  in the last 3 games.

He did get some really good other scores but that tactic  is basically  the game now , as it's the most profitable way  of playing. Galway did similar  with Walsh

 Is that really the best  way to show off the  best talents in the game? In my opinion , absolutely not. The two pointer  is an absolute abomination