Enhanced Rules

[AustinPowers]

No playing back  into your own half.
Tap and go.

That's all that was  ever needed.

[Rossfan]

I'll leave this open till Saturday.

[Delgany 2nds]

At game on Sunday, defender and attacker went for ball around half way line. Defender won the ball but momentum took him over the HW line and only 3 back. So breaking rule.
Ref gave 13m free but I thought it should be from HW line as not intentional.

[twohands!!!]

At game on Sunday, defender and attacker went for ball around half way line. Defender won the ball but momentum took him over the HW line and only 3 back. So breaking rule.
Ref gave 13m free but I thought it should be from HW line as not intentional.

Current rules in the rule-book and punishments.

2.14 During play, a team must have at least four players (which may include the goalkeeper) in their half of the field and at least three outfield players in the opposition half of the field.

Exception:
A breach of this Rule does not occur where the player(s) who would otherwise cause the breach

(a) have do so unintentionally
(b) are within 4m of the half way line
(c) are not interfering with play
(d) are not interfering with the opponent, and
(e) are not gaining an advantage

4.35 To commit a breach of Rule 2.14 (Set Play) in the act of carrying, receiving or intercepting the ball, or attempting to do so.

Penalty
Free kick from the place where the player crossed the half-wayline.

4.36 To commit a breach of Rule 2.14 (Set Play) other than in the circumstances outlined in Rule 4.35.

Penalty
Free kick from the centre point of the offending team's 20m line. However,the opponents of the team conceding the foul may take a free kick from any point outside the 40m arc

The wording of the rules and punishment are just atrocious here.

I think the intention of the wording is that the fact that it was unintentional isn't enough - it has to be unintentional, not interfering with play or opponent, not gaining an advantafe and must be within 4m of the half-way line for it not to be breach of the rule. However the way these rules are written it definitely isn't the clearest.

[trileacman]

At game on Sunday, defender and attacker went for ball around half way line. Defender won the ball but momentum took him over the HW line and only 3 back. So breaking rule.
Ref gave 13m free but I thought it should be from HW line as not intentional.

He interfered with play hence its a 13m free as per the new rules. I don't see anyway you could claim touching the ball outside the halfway line is unintentional unless you're lying injured, prone on the ground and the ball is driven against you.

[onefineday]

Im obviously bias but the 2024 final was infinitely superior to the 20025 final.  I think the 2024 final suffers from exaggeration as to how bad it was.  The 2025 final on the other hand is benefitted by a need to portray the current game as vastly superior to the old one.

I actually nodded off last year in the first half watching it on TV.. true. It was typical of where county and club football was at.
I don't think the final this year was good at all due to an abject Donegal performance. The game should be judged on the entire year not comparing two games. But if people think it was better before the changes so be it.. I don't... repeation doesn't strengthen argument..  so that'll do me.

The semis and quarters were all shite as well... not to say that was all on the rules, but people proclaiming that the rules have saved the game and that this was the best championship in years are lying or deluded.

The final and both semis were poor, but the quarterfinals with the exception of Dublin v Tyrone were all good watches.
I agree that the constant media narrative about frc saving football etc and how that translated into attendances is a bit nauseating. It's ignoring that attendances tend to be better when teams are well matched and games likely to be competitive and this year has seen the range in ability between the top 16 at its narrowest in years - I'm not convinced that the new rules contributed massively there, but meath did exploit them to their advantage.
All that said, the new rules have been positive and whilst tweaks are needed (2-pt frees need to be gone and the 4-pt goal should be back), you'd imagine most will make it through congress in October.

[Milltown Row2]

At game on Sunday, defender and attacker went for ball around half way line. Defender won the ball but momentum took him over the HW line and only 3 back. So breaking rule.
Ref gave 13m free but I thought it should be from HW line as not intentional.

Both players breaking the line, hop ball.
Defender breaking the line with the ball (cause he intentionally won the ball and carried it over) free from the 20m line. or at the arc of the 40m line

The players are aware that they take a risk when carrying that out past the halfway line, the ref has to speak to his linesmen and ask for reasons to why it was called if he hadn't seen it.

The common sense approach for that would be that if both players crossed the line, then that was the first free.. everything after that isn't taken so to speak, so hop ball where they both crossed

The interpretation could be seen as he intentionally collected the ball (otherwise he'd have dropped the ball and at worst would have been only a free from that position) and thus bringing the free forward ..

[David McKeown]

At game on Sunday, defender and attacker went for ball around half way line. Defender won the ball but momentum took him over the HW line and only 3 back. So breaking rule.
Ref gave 13m free but I thought it should be from HW line as not intentional.

He interfered with play hence its a 13m free as per the new rules. I don't see anyway you could claim touching the ball outside the halfway line is unintentional unless you're lying injured, prone on the ground and the ball is driven against you.

Is it not 4.35 as he was playing the ball. So free on the half way line

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Yes, it's entirely plausible that someone could intentionally collect the ball but unintentionally step over the line after doing so.

I don't think dropping the ball is the first thought someone would have either. At least, it doesn't appear to be when players carry the ball out over the sideline all the time.

It should be a free from the halfway line.

[Rossfan]

Poll closed.
The GAAboarders have spoken.

[David McKeown]

Poll closed.
The GAAboarders have spoken.

Indeed they have the majority not in favour of all of the new rules.

[Armagh18]

Poll closed.
The GAAboarders have spoken.

Indeed they have the majority not in favour of all of the new rules.

Yep. I'm part of the 42% that voted some retained, the only one I'm strongly in favour of is the solo and go. The rest I'm either not fussed on or totally against.

[trueblue1234]

So roughly 48% what to keep the rules or a close version of it. And 52% want significant change or abandoned. I'm fairly surprised by that to be honest. Thought there would have been stronger support given the discussions on here.

[Captain Obvious]

Poll closed.
The GAAboarders have spoken.

Indeed they have the majority not in favour of all of the new rules.

Looks like we had 10 posters that watched games with blinkers on.  The knockout stages was conclusive evidence that further changes of the rules are required.

[Milltown Row2]

Poll closed.
The GAAboarders have spoken.

Indeed they have the majority not in favour of all of the new rules.

Looks like we had 10 posters that watched games with blinkers on.  The knockout stages was conclusive evidence that further changes of the rules are required.

There's always a good percentage that will moan like f**k regardless